Club 520 Podcast - Axe Bath

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

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Yeah, flip flops for y'all. What a dick. Tamar Meteorite, my boy Young T, Young Nacho. How you what? Chillin', bro. By the doors again? Yeah, I had... These was by the garage door. Oh. He's full of shit.

Y'all don't even know where the garage door is. You had to really turn that into like a thing. Yeah, yeah. They about to know. About to know. Last but not least, when my media left, you know what I'm saying? We got a guest. Love having guests, especially Indiana kids, Midwest kids in the building.

You know what I'm saying? Hooper, philanthropist, foundation owner. We're going to talk about all these things with my dog, GR3. How you feeling, man? Appreciate you pulling up to 520, my boy. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all having me. I seen what y'all doing. I had to check in. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I know y'all got a little bit of a relationship going on.

But before we get into the episode, look, you see this table. It's real bare. Cameraman going through some stuff. That's why, the sponsorship. See, if you put a sponsorship, we can get this laptop popping real nice, get this table going, and our cameraman will have his balance back. Shout out to my man behind the lens doing this thing. But before we get into today's episode, I got to talk to you. You know what I'm saying? You came to 520 during March.

This March Madness going on. You know what I'm saying? You went a little bit farther than tournament fatigue over here. But I got to ask you, you know what I'm saying, a biased question. Do you believe that was a foul? That wasn't no foul. That wasn't no foul? The block wasn't no foul.

Everybody knows what you're talking about. The block. We ain't even got to expect, you know what I'm saying? All Michigan fans. Michigan fans, no. Y'all still feel that. Too bad. That wasn't no foul? The block wasn't no foul. Everybody knows what you're talking about. The block. We ain't even got to explain. But you know what I'm saying? All Michigan fans. Michigan fans, no. Y'all still feel that. Too bad.

I don't care. National championship. We're going to get into that. But that was a crazy play. Hand straight up. He went to go get the block on page. See if he called a foul. Free throw.

Strange the game. How shitty or like salty was y'all in that moment? Because everybody looked at that and said, that ain't no fucking foul. During the moment, I looked at Trey's face, and he was pissed. He was shaking his head. I forgot what he said to the ref, but I was thinking next play because Trey just had hit that shot against Kansas the game before, I think, or two games before.

So I'm like, we can still get back in it. So my mind was just like, all right, we can still win this game. Yeah, I have to say, I'm sorry to bring that up, but that's Louisville fans. It's one of the few things I got to hold on to, you know what I'm saying? They try to take that championship away from us and act like we didn't all watch that fucking game on Monday night. Quit playing with us. Because y'all cheaters. So what?

I hope we did cheat. I hope everything that they said was true. Shout out to Nile Money. We've been on that type of time. Man, but, you know, typically we ask, especially when we get hoops on the show, like, Origen, shit, we know your origin, man. Like, how was it to grow up, you know what I'm saying,

as the son of Big Dog, the legend, especially in the 219? Like, how was that, like, influential in your upbringing? Obviously, with that being your pops and growing up kind of in the NBA. Yeah, you know, it's a blessing, for real. That's how I met T, for real. He knew my pops and stuff when we was on the paces. But it's a blessing.

I grew up, I seen cars, I seen hooping. I remember one time he was with the Bucks, and I'm in practice. I was a little kid, so I'm running on the floor. And George Carl, he cuts me out like, man, get your son off the court. You know what I'm saying? Get him off the court. At the practice, we in the car car and my pops let me drive. So I'm in the steering wheel like this on his lap and I look over and there's somebody,

it was, I think Tim Thomas just was flying past. And then my pops rolled his window down and I seen Sam Cassell. And imagine seeing Sam Cassell as a little kid. You see his little face. You see his face as a little kid. I'm scared as hell. And my pops never let that down. My pops always let me down. You see him saying, Cassell has a little kid. You see his little face. You see his face as a little kid. I'm scared as hell.

And my pops never let that down. My pops always joke about that. And that's my guy. That's Uncle Sam, man. But my pops never let that down, man. Like, you scared my son. Damn, Cassell had the song mask on early. Hell no, man.

I'll never forget that day, though, man. That's for real. You know, it was stuff like that. You know, I was in NBA practices. You know, I got to see my pops pull up in different cars and stuff. So my mind was always focused on what I wanted, you know, and pops never influenced me to, you know, because I played football. I played different sports.

He never was like, all right, you got to play basketball, you know, because I played football. I played different sports. He never was like, all right, you've got to play basketball, you know, until I got to high school. It was clear, like, I'm just going to show a spot, like, what you doing? But, yeah, no, man, I can't complain. You know, obviously he was traveling. He won a ring with the Spurs. I got to see a lot and really follow his footsteps in terms of the hooping line. I was going to ask you about that.

I was going to say, you know what I'm saying, a lot of people who don't even have no credentials and niggas who just be on Instagram clicks, they be pressuring their firstborn kids to fucking get on the basketball court. Did you have that type of pressure? Or was it just like he let you fuck with it, but then it came time and just like, nah, son,

you don't see what I see. Like, we about to get to work type shit. No, I'm laughing because I remember I was going to high school and I was playing football. I was still up until eighth grade, and my pops was like, I'll give you a cell phone if you stop playing football but it was clear no and it was just a joke but it was clear I was I was better at basketball and that was my path and pops was right you know obviously um but nah I remember playing football I used to

be receiver and I was nice you know but I was like basketball probably was crazy I was nice, you know, but I was like, no, no, basketball. You probably was crazy. Yeah, I was going to say, how tall were you, man? Eighth grade. I was probably like, nah, eighth grade, 6'2", 6'3". Yeah, you was probably close. You was big in the bench. 6'3", receiver in eighth grade. I remember a couple catches back then with one hand, you know, and I was out there, you know.

But I was like, man, this ain't my sport, though, because it got time for practice, and it's like them drills where it's head on. It's like, all right, it's time to go head on against a linebacker or somebody. You got to square up. I'm like, nah, this ain't my sport. Nah, I was cool up there, too. Football was never for me. I was a buck 30 in high school.

6'1", 130. Dog, listen, I grew up playing baseball. And now I take a fastball to the ribcage where I catch a motherfucking up the middle linebacker to the – nah, dog. I don't see how people play football and wake up and play that shit the next day. Yeah, no way. Yeah, that shit's crazy. You got to be built for it, bro.

My brother played. We opposite. My brother's 6'1", like 300 pounds, linebacker. He XFL right now. Oh, damn. Yeah, he playing for St. Louis, the same team with A.J. McCarron, the quarterback. Oh, yeah. So I've been checking for St. Louis, the same team with A.J. McCarron. Yeah. So I've been checking that out.

But, yeah, we complete opposite growing up. He was wrestling football. It got to a point I'm like, nah, we ain't fighting no more. You see my brother. Yeah, for sure. Nah, dig a bit. That's crazy. You said a little bit.

Hey, look, we cool on the hands. Damn, so obviously, you know what I'm saying, he put the ball in your hands. You get to playing. You know what I'm saying? He put the ball in your hands, you get to play. You know what I'm saying? Before we get to your college and high school days, how was AAU for you? Cause you had some young hitters on your team, but you came in time period where high school basketball

was really getting its shine, especially on social media. And y'all SYF team was crazy. Y'all was cheating. Y'all was cheating. We just had a lot of talent in Elvin and Gary. And Brandon Dawson was on our team. We was naming a couple, Mitch McGarry. All NBA players, by the way.

All NBA players. But before that, a lot of people don't know I was born premature. So I was born three pounds, four ounces. And I spent two months in an incubator as a kid. And Pops gave me a Purdue basketball, like one of the little basketballs, and put it in the incubator. So for two months, that's where I had the basketball in there, so I started telling people, that's when I first started hooping.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just in me. Damn, you was in that motherfucker for two months? For two months, dude. Oh, shit. You ain't had no choice but to hoop. Nah, for real. He threw that basketball in there. That's why he came to you, he's like, alright, I don't let you do your thing, but time to return that basketball in there. Nah, that's why he came to you.

He's like, all right, I don't let you do your thing, but time to return that investment, son. Did y'all win any big tournaments? When you was in Swaya? Swaya? Yeah, we used to, that was before, cause I think we was Under Armour and they was Nike when they was, y'all was talking about the

Robin Hummel team and all that. Then we switched over to Under Armour. I remember we used to go to Florida, all them tournaments. We was running through all them tournaments, you know what I'm saying? But we wasn't EYBL. Rob Markman, Jr.: Nigga, what shoes was you hooping in? Rob Markman, Jr.: Man, the Under Armour when them B Jennings first came out. Rob Markman, Jr.: The patent leather toes.

Rob Markman, Jr.: They threw us the B Jennings, man. Damn, G. That's my stuff. I almost saw my underarm. Oh. But I had rolled my ankle so bad in them. They ain't had no, like, stability. Thank God. Man.

I would have rocked it. Them curries are nasty. Hey, man. I ain't never seen them. It makes me so upset that Steph is one of the coldest niggas to touch a basketball, and he got a shoe that we will never touch again or touch the first time. That's why I asked you what shoes you was wearing, bro, because that's a crazy circuit to be on. Nah, Under Armour was popping, though.

That circuit was crazy. Yeah, I'm talking about what the gear and shit. Oh, yeah. Niggas would have rather had hooped in some Nikes then. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you could wear Nikes off the court. Ain't no Under Armour shoes you was gonna wear off that court.

Nah, you gotta wear the runners or whatever. They got the love. Oh, flip flop me. Flip flop me. No sock. What was one of your toughest matchups in the AU that you can remember? Yeah, you, Shabazz Muhammad.

Shabazz Muhammad. He was 22. Oh me, Bozzo. Every time, Bozzo. Yeah, every time we used to run Hey, you, Shabazz Muhammad. Shabazz Muhammad. He was 22. On me. Bozzo. Every time, Bozzo. Yeah. Every time we used to run in the championship game. I was up.

So, but yeah, that's who I remember. That's one of the names you forget about. Like, it wasn't too far ago, but he was a problem in high school. But then we remember. He was big in the motherfucker. He played with Bozzo in Minnesota, right? In Minnesota. Yeah, yeah. For a year.

Yeah, my rookie year. He had that Joel Emb in Minnesota, right? In Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. My rookie year. He had that Joel Embiid passport. Yeah. Man. That's just crazy, man. But was he like way older or did y'all just text him? No, he was. He was two years older, I believe.

Yeah. He was like older. Okay. He wanted the OG holdbacks and hoops. Yeah. He was a double holdback. He reclassified and got held back. Bob's my guy, too.

I see. He's my guy, though. I mess with him. He cool as hell, but he was old. Oh, damn, that's crazy. Because you know what's crazy? I went to a tournament and watched him play at North Central. And he was dunking on everybody.

And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, bro, as I heard. That nigga was huge, bro. He was a man child, bro. And then when he came out, I was like, all right as I heard. That nigga was huge, bro. I'm like a man child, bro. And then when it came out, I was like, all right. I get it. That's real. He was a man. You know what I mean?

Hey, bro. Hey, you know what? And I'm going to ship this to the 219. You know what I'm saying? That EC team where they had Angel Garcia. Y'all not telling me Angel Garcia was a high school player, bro. I still don't believe it, bro. Where are the documents?

He was cold, bro. He was a grown man. He just got off a shift at the steel mill bro put on that red jersey and gave work damn angel was nice he was cold but yeah man high school you know what i'm saying you said pop started telling you hey it's time to really get it in like what was your like what was that switch like for you when it became basketball it's kind of like fun he's like nah we we i'm gonna show you you know see how i. Now I'm about to show you how to get it in. Like, was you going through them type of drills with practice or he was just letting you work out with your coach?

Nah. Man, I would go visit my pops in the summer, me and my brother, for two weeks. And that's when I remember about him. He was strict on two things. You got to do your cardio once a day for 20 minutes, and then you got to keep that pace up to a certain level, and then you got to eat right. It was grilled chicken, broccoli, salmon, something.

You got to eat right for lunch. So that as a kid, you know, so that instills, instills to me like, all right, this is what I need to be doing to get to the league. That's how you keep your body right. But he said he learned that from Ray. Like Ray Allen was, was big on all of that back with the Bucks and everything. So, but he didn't learn that type of stuff until he got a certain age. So he spread that knowledge to me.

I was appreciative of. But he came to watch me work out one time in high school. And I used to get up at 5.30 in the morning. And a lot of people kind of heard this story, but this is what I tell all the young kids. This is what got me on and this is what got me my scholarships. But I used to wake up at 5.30, my high school coach was honking his horn in my driveway.

My mom, you know, you've met my mom. My mom's like, boy, get your ass up, you better get up. At 5.30, so I hop in his car, we at the gym by 5.45, I get a thousand shots up before school every day. By sophomore year, came in high school, I had my license, I beat my high school coach up to the gym, I beat him to the gym every single day. And I used to turn on the lights.

That's my favorite sound. A thousand shots every day. Damn. In the sophomore year, I had a scholarship from Michigan and Colorado. You know, all the schools I had scholarships from. But that's what I tell the kids, man. A thousand shots a day, one hour in the morning per day. That's all it took.

You was on the gun, right? I was on the gun, yeah. I was about to say. For a minute, pops came up there, rebounded for me. Okay, I didn't know if you had one of your niggas rebounded for you. I was about to say, shout out to the rebounded niggas. Woo!

A thousand rebounds for the guy. All right, man. G got up working out with Ben Wallace, nigga. That was because I used to shoot with two hands on So in eighth grade, you know how as a kid, we just throw the ball up there. So eighth grade, my high school coach was like, yo, if you want to play, you going to have to change your shot. Like you don't shoot with two hands.

This the guy hand, this how you shoot. And I'm like, whoa. So I got, I just looked him off like, man, he don't know what you're talking about. In eighth grade, you know, I'm like, I'm kind of nice. I went all out. I'm like, I'm kind of nice. And man all out. I'm like, I'm kind of nice. And man, I got in the gym, a thousand shots per day,

and it started working. Like I was able to control where the ball was going because you shoot with two hands, it's spinning, it's twisting, it's nasty. You get control, I would start hitting them shots. I'm like, whoa, this really work. Thousand shots per day. That's what I tell the kids, man.

Damn. That's some different type of dedication. Your dedication different, because I would have never been there. I was going to say, well, what time did you get up to work out? Nigga, I didn't go work out. Nah, nigga, what? I want to know shit. You like that, though.

What time was you done? We'll go back. I was done. Oh, you good? Just move back so we can hear you better? Yep. This way? Yes, sir.

Yep. He said, what time was he done? He was going to high school. Yeah, so it was high school. Nigga, I'm saying though, 5.30. Yeah. So what time did you get that thousand shot up? Seven.

And then it was like- Fuck. 6.55, seven. I remember I had- It was Axe deodorant. It was popular. Yeah. I used to spray that shit on my hand, get the scrub real quick.

I had five minutes. School started at 7.15. Oh, G, you was a nasty- 7.15. Oh, G. Hey, I had to do what I had to do. A Spanish band. Hey, I Oh, gee. I had to do a Spanish bath. I had to do it. I had to do a quick bird bath.

A quick bird bath. Hey, rubbing an ax on the hands is crazy. They was spraying that motherfucker. Bro, they used to do that at Pike, man. Y'all niggas was sick. All the little Spanish dudes. It's either that or you got to sit all day. You ain't took no shower in class.

I'm like, man. I knew who won for me then. Hell, God. My nigga did that. I'm crying. My nigga did that every day. That was in your routine. That was your B.O. by the time you...

My nigga did the NIL in high school. Oh, God. I wish that was out back then. I was in a commercial with the whores. And you'd have had Old Spice on lock, my nigga. You would have been a fucking superstar. Nigga, get that on camera, him doing it every day, bro. Imagine a nigga taking an accident with a LeBron hand toss, bro.

It would have went viral. You wouldn't even need an NBA. Y'all crazy. Ah, shit. That's crazy. But that dedication different, though. Nah, for real. Respect.

Because like you said, you made your own jump shot. Like, you had to go through and make your own jump shot to get to the next level. And like you said, that hard work and that dedication got you your offers. We're going to talk about some schools. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy how we got two Indiana All-Stars, you know what I'm saying, two pros in here that did not go to an Indiana school. Was there any Indiana school, you know what I'm saying,

in particular that should have maybe recruited you but that didn't recruit you? I got to look in the camera when I say this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk your shit. Purdue already, no. Talk your shit. Rob Markman, No, no, Purdue already know. We just already... I would have went to Purdue, for real. I ain't never came out and said this, but I probably would have went to Purdue.

My pops was a legend there. Wore number 13 and sent a banner. I probably would have asked to wear number 13 or 31 or something. It would have made a whole storyline, but God had better plans. Rob Markman, Absolutely. Rob Markman, Michigan recruited me. Tim Hardaway Jr., shout out to Tim. He gave me my official visit.

They was recruiting me. We went out to parties, did all of that. Tim did me in, too. Yeah, man. I had a great time. Tim was a good person. He was a good person. 18-year-old, or 17 or however old he was.

I'm like, whoa, this is what college is like? You know what I'm saying? And I go to Michigan, they on the roof. They on the roof. Wilder. They playing beer pong off the roof, jumping off the roof, everything, all weekend. I'm like, whoa, they party like this for basketball, football. That's how they get it in?

Yeah. I'm going to go here. Going to the schools that got the dual, like the footballs lit in, the basketball lit in different, especially in the Midwest. Because them cold, white people don't care about the cold. They going to turn up regardless. So you was in Ann Arbor and it was a fucking party.

Because that's like the Bloomington of Michigan, but way better. Yeah, yeah, for real. Yeah. It was a good time, the two years that I was there. If it wasn't Michigan, what school would you you close to thinking about? Probably, I don't know, for some reason, Colorado always stick in my mind. I kind of wanted to go further from the crib. I didn't have Kentucky or North Carolina, but I had almost every other school.

Really? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think I finished high school 17 in the country or something like that. But IU didn't offer me. Purdue didn't offer me. It was a lot of schools that passed up on me. Rob Markman, That's crazy. That don't even make sense.

Yeah, Purdue didn't offer me either. Yeah, Purdue didn't offer me. I thought I was going to. I thought I had an offer. Rob Markman, For real? Yeah, I thought I committed. And they was like, you don't have an offer. Rob Markman, Lame ass.

Rob Markman, I didn't know that, bro. I committed to Purdue. Rob Markman, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Rob Markman, I committed to Purdue, but they told me you don't got a scholarship, bro. I was like, it's always the same. Rob Markman, I didn't know that. I was like, I'm not going to go to Purdue.

I'm not going to go to Purdue. Rob Markman, I didn't know that. I was like, I'm not going to go to Purdue. I was like, I'm not going to go to Purdue. Rob Mark my nigga bad. I committed to Purdue, but they told me, you don't got a scholarship, bro. I was like, it's always up with Purdue. Look, now he won't smoke. I did. Niggas want to be paying attention to him. Hey, listen, they offered my little brother. I was like, why was y'all wasting y'all time? He's in the hill now.

He was paid. Yeah, it's all right. Nah, it's over. Bro, I committed, bro. They was like, I was going to It's over. I committed, bro. They was like, I was going to call you back. They called my dad like, we don't got a scholarship for him. They was like, oh. All right.

So wait a minute. Hold on. And this is the summer of your junior year or your senior year already? This is my junior year. Your junior year. I was committing early. Hold on, nigga. You. Your junior year. So I was coming in early. Hold on, nigga. You called and said, hey, I'm coming? Yeah.

I had just got all them scholarship offers. So I had- So you just knew Purdue was this? I thought I had them in the bag. See? That's why I told you I was getting away from home. I just turned down Kansas, all them. I'm like, I'm going to go to Purdue.

To go to fucking Purdue. That's crazy. You get on my fucking nerves, man. Yeah, them niggas. They literally told me, yeah, Will. You ain't got a scholarship, boy. I was like, oh. Did you have your hat ready?

That's why I went to the other black and gold. Damn. I was like, I can't go here. I'm going to go to the white school. I'm going to go wear these DNPs one way or another, nigga. That's funny. That's crazy. I mean, I just think that it's crazy way or another, nigga. That's funny. That's crazy. I mean, I just think that it's crazy that we look, especially now in the tournament,

like we got so many kids from the city that be out here getting their shit off and they're not in any of the home schools. Y'all should probably work on that shit. Nigel Pack should have been at Purdue. Shout out to Nigel Pack. There's no reason these good-ass players should not be escaping the state. In a dream scenario, IU would be a Nike school and have a coach that just recruited in like central Indiana

and the region and they could probably win a national championship every four or five years if you just recruited in the bucket city. But fuck them. But Michigan though with them Jordans, it's over with. If I could come out of high school again, I probably would've went to Michigan. For real? Jawan Howard,

Jordans. He just said it was fun as hell. Hell yeah. That would've been a Michigan. For real? Jawan Hurd, Jordan. He just said it was fun as hell. Hell yeah. That would've been a perfect match for you too. Hell yeah. And you went to a crazy situation because Michigan, they was already solid than you. You know what I'm saying? Who came into Michigan with y'all?

Because y'all had a whip. They was producing talent. Trey Burke and Tim was already there. Me, they started calling us the new Fab Five. They started calling us the Fresh Five. it was five freshmen that came in me caris avert nick stauskas spike albrecht and mitch mcgary uh so we came in and it was the i remember the first uh like scrimmage we had against each other the seniors it was seven seniors they looked at us and they was like yeah we about to smack them we got on the court man they seen they seen who we was, like, quick. We started whooping their ass.

We was up by 12 quick. And our coach was like, yeah, we got to switch something up. Seniors went to the coach and was like, I think we going to sit down. We going to take that role as leaders. They let all us freshmen rock out except for Karris. They was like, yeah, we going to redshirt him. B-line was like, yeah, we going to redshirt him. Everybody was like, nah, Karris nice.

I don't know what you think. Seniors went back to him and was like, nah, we ain't red shirt him. Everybody was like, nah, Karras nice. I don't know what you thinking. And the seniors went back to him, was like, nah, we ain't red shirt Karras. He going to play. And that's when we just started all rocking out after that. Rob Markman, That's hard. That's love. Rob Markman, That is. Rob Markman, I'm sure that happens nowhere else.

Karras Johnson, We came to campus. My mama dropped me off and I was like, man, where am I at? You know what I'm saying? I was like, it was me and Mitch in the dorm. He was my roommate. Karis and Spike was over here. And Nick. And I was like, man, it's all three of us in the dorm right in the hallway next to each other.

I'm like, man, we was having a good time. That's why we came into practice. Started smacking them. Coach was like, yeah, we got to switch it up. They're going to start. Nah, they just, I mean, of course, shout out to your coach. But at the same time, shout out to them, bro. Because that don't happen, bro. To where they go to the coach and not, man, fuck these mean, of course, shout out to your coach, but at the same time, shout out to them, bro, because that don't happen.

Yeah, don't happen. To where they go to the coach and not, man, fuck these little niggas, man. They not taking my spot. That's my team. Yeah. That's my team. Nah, yeah. For sure.

They all got real good jobs. Josh Bartlstein just got promoted with the Suns. Yeah. Josh Bartlstein. Yeah, with the Suns. That's good karma, bro. He was one of them seniors. Yeah.

So, yeah, man, they doing good things. They live. That's hard, Markman, 2 Chainz. That's good karma, bro. 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. He was one of them seniors. So yeah, man, they doing good things with their lives. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz. That's hard, bro. 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. They was always smart. It was another story, too. We was the first one to have them slogans on your shirt.

We got to the Final Four, and we had, we own. So we was like, yeah, we come into court and we switch on the light switch. We own. We turn on. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz. We was the first ones with the slogan. Adidas started selling them mugs. We created this by ourself.

Rob Markman, Oh, they did something like that? Rob Markman, By ourself. We went and printed them. The team went and printed them. And we was the only ones that had them. Adidas, the next game, March Madness, came out, had the whole We Own slogan, was selling them mugs. We ain't getting none of that money.

Rob Markman, We ain't getting nothing. All them seniors was business students and everything. So we know what's going on. We see firsthand, like it's over with. They about to make millions off this shit. We ain't getting nothing. Rob Markman, Jr.: Damn, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.: NIL deals.

Rob Markman, Jr.: Bro. Rob Markman, Jr.: Right. Rob Markman, Jr.: They millionaires now if they would've did that. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Rob Markman, Jr.: Trey Burke, National Player of the Year. Rob Markman, Jr.: Millionaire. I mean, obviously he's made to the league, but he would've been a millionaire. Rob Markman, Jr.: How cold was Trey Burke in college, bro?

Rob Markman, Jr.: Cold. Rob Markman, Jr.: I mean, we know because we watched him, but you rocked with him. What was he like? Trey Burke, I personally ain't know Trey when I pull it up. I know a little dude from Ohio. I'm like little light-skinned dude. He got tattoos, cornrows. I'm like, man, who is this kid?

He start hooping. We call him like AI. He's just cold with the magic with the ball. Back then, you get to the league, people taller and stuff. But back in college, man, you see the big boys, they got the big balls. They got the big balls. They got the big balls. They got the big balls.

They got the big balls. They got the big balls. We called him like AI. We just called him AI. He's just cold with the magic with the ball. Back then, you get to the league, people taller and stuff. Back in college, man, he used to get all his shit off. He was cold. But to see a player like that, National Player of the Year, it was Denari Robinson at that time at Michigan and Trey Burke. You couldn't go to the cafeteria.

You couldn't go to Wendy's. If one of them was over there, it was like, yeah, it's a wrap. Rob Markman, I knew he had a big... That's why I asked you about him. I mean, shout out to everybody else, but I knew he was like a big deal. Rob Markman, Yeah, he was that nigga. Yeah. Rob Markman, Damn, I forgot you know Robison. What was his nigga name?

Shoelace or something like that? Shoelace. Rob Markman, Yeah, he had it cracking. Damn, both of them... Them niggas should have been throwing parties. Rob Markman, Imagine that. Rob Markman, And that's so crazy. We talk about the NIL money. Like, especially at fucking Michigan.

Niggas be hating on Drew Timmy. But I understand. I'm seeing the Gonzaga, too. Boy, I'm making way more bread living on campus than I was pooping in the league. It's a second-round pig. That changes everything. It changes a lot. It do, though.

Hell, yeah. So, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, unfortunately, we talked about what happened. But I wasn't making it to the Final Four. Because, like, a lot of people don't get to experience that run in the NCAA tournament. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, unfortunately we talked about what happened, but how was it making it to the Final Four? Because a lot of people don't get to experience that run in the NCAA tournament. What's that feeling like? That's probably on par with paying the best tournament in the world, low key, because it's not like the NBA playoffs.

No, no. It's crazy. It's fans from everywhere obviously showing up. National championship game, playing in front of 75,000 at the Georgia Dome. I'm in warmups, almost air balled my first shot because everybody looked like ants in the background. You know what I'm in a championship game playing in front of 75,000 at the Georgia Dome. I'm in warmups, almost air balled my first shot because everybody looked like ants in the background. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never experienced that playing on the court.

Everybody else looked like ants. You know what I'm saying? It's usually the other way around. The crowd looking at you. So I'm like, it threw off my whole, you know what I'm saying, my shot. But you get to the final four, you get all the fresh gear, you know, whoever, whatever team, whatever, whoever spots you, sending you all that pack of all the good gear. The plane is different.

You pull up, you know what I'm saying? That per diem is different. That per diem different. Everything different. You get to that final four. That's hard. But I'll never forget coming back from the championship. We had all the fans that was waiting on us as soon as we,

we had lost though, but all the fans was there afterwards. And it's like winning the championship when you get lost though, but all the fans was there afterwards. It's like winning the championship when you get back and it's all the students just there, like 100,000 people just in the streets. Rob Markman, Jr.: I couldn't imagine going to school that big. Rob Markman, Jr.: Damn, bro. That's when my teammate, Spike Albrecht, he tweeted Kate Upton when they took the national championship, so he got back.

He was the man on campus then. He got all the little chicks on campus. Yeah, he gave us a fucking shirt. That's what I'm thinking about now. Trey Burke, because Trey was in foul trouble. He had 17 as the backup point guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I fucking remember.

He was hooping. He was hooping. He tweeted K up then afterward was the man. Nah, he hard for that. I was at the crib shitty, because I was like, all right, Trey Burke in foul trouble. I'm like, who the fuck is this

little white dude killing us? He was on fire. He was going nuts in the first half. I was pissed. I'm looking at Russ Smith like, if you don't wake the fuck up. He playing 2-1-9. Yep, crown point. Damn, see? Yep. Running rapid. Alright, so you know, you kind of like,

with you going into the draft situation, you know what I'm saying, you had a chance to leave earlier than you even expected for school. Just tell us about that process of how you, like, you know, that summer going into your sophomore year, you kind of like, oh, damn, I could have been his. And then you're like, fuck it, I'm going back to school. How was that process for you thinking that out?

And then when did you decide, all right, I'm going to go ahead and bounce? Yeah. I mean, I wasn't really thinking about it. When I first got to michigan i was just trying to i was trying to go there and be on the team you know not be a role player i was obviously trying to start but i didn't expect for things to start moving like that we made to national championship we lost next day they like are you leaving or not you know i'm saying that's the option like it's the next morning when you wake up in a hotel they're like we're gonna leave or

we're not you know and i hadn't discussed it with my family, nothing. I remember talking to Pops and I think I'm 18, 19 at the time. He looked at me and he was like, I don't think you ready yet. And I was like, I had to respect that because this is Pops, he been at that level or whatever. And back then for me, I ain't know. If I would've knew what I knew now, we would've had a discussion. Rob Markman, You should've called me, man. It's time to take off. Rob Markman, Because you know how we talk. You know the difference between going

top 10 and going, I went 40, second round. So the difference between that right there is four years, damn near locked in. Rob Markman, Automatic bread. Rob Markman, Nice bread, locked in. So I get second round, Minnesota. I ended up at Wiggins. That's when the whole LeBron trade went down. Wiggins came to Minnesota, and me and Levine got drafted to Minnesota too. So I was the third or fourth wing on that spot.

They had to let me go, and then I had to make the team. The Sixers picked me up, and through the waivers, I made the Sixers team. And then my whole career was just like that. And it could have been different off the top 10. You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman, It would have been totally different. Because you're given a bigger opportunity when you pick 10. Even like if he went to camp, he would have went to camp with Minnesota and he killed Levine because Levine wasn't good his first year.

But you kill, it's like, okay, you killed him. But shit, he ain't about to play. We got to give him a chance. We picked him eight. So it's like. But I couldn't believe he went back to school. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. So I made that decision to go back.

Go ahead. No, I was just. I was saying, well, bro. I was like, well, shit, bro. Like I told you, bro. Bro must have had that thing back at school. And shit, he wasn't trying to let go yet. He was in love.

That bitch was in love. That was fucking great. That Arbor love was good. Yeah. That fuck with that grip on G3. Fucking life is good. Like you said, if y'all come home in love after a loss, I couldn't imagine the day-to-day at Arbor.

He was probably living. My man. I really wasn loss, I couldn't imagine the day to day at Ann Arbor. Aw, he was probably living. My man. Nah, I really wasn't. I wasn't even thinking like that. Like, all right, we going top 10. We outta here. You know, I was thinking more like, all right, I'm trying to line up what's best for me.

Pop say, you know, I ain't ready. I'm trying to line up. All right, we gonna go back next year and kill. I come back to Michigan. I'm supposed to be playing the three. B-line still got me at the three and the four. You know what I'm saying? I look up, I'm guarding Steven Adams playing the three. B-Line still got me at the three and the four. You know what I'm saying? I look up.

I'm guarding Steven Adams one game. We play pick. I'm guarding Steven Adams. I'm like, yo, nah, this ain't what I signed up for. This ain't year two. You know how college coaches do. You know when you get to, when you, now she's going back or whatever, they got you in the bag. They like, okay, now we going to get our plans straight.

So it's crazy how the game work, you know what I'm saying? And you and George was talking about that. But, you know, as I got older, I learned how to understand how you got to play the game. And as you become a professional, things change, and you got to let certain things go too, you know. That's a fact. Nah, but hold on. Before we move on, man, you got to talk about that Steven Adams matchup, bro.

You ain't got to go in deep detail. Man, I remember. Did they keep you on, bro? It kept me on, bro. You ain't gotta go in deep detail, but. Man, I remember. Did they keep you on, bro? It kept me on, bro. It was a free throw line. Box out. You know, I'm trying to box out Steven Adams on a free throw line, bro.

I turn around and go like this. You know, I ain't boxing him out like that. I turn around and go like this. He ain't all that. He wasn't going. He was the strongest human in the world, bro. To have him playing Steven Adams was a joke, bro. Damn.

T-Moms would have me on Stephen Adams. Nah, yeah, for real. It don't matter who you... He too strong, bro. What's crazy is we was in a bubble, and Stephen Adams, he just plays ukulele and stuff like that. He just a chill. He cool dude.

He go on that court, man. He strongest. Damn, bro. Life is peaceful. Who go fuck with Stephen Adams in any aspect of life? Bro, he got 18 brothers and sisters. And they all be... That's crazy, bro. Life is peaceful. Who going to fuck with Stephen Adams in any aspect of life? Bro, he got 18 brothers and sisters. And they all be. That's crazy.

He didn't got beat up. He don't care about nothing. Nah, the league is sweet. He got moved. Yeah. That's crazy. Be like, wow, you have to stretch forward. Yeah, that's why I had to.

That's why I be understanding college players now that the portal is open. They be like, oh, why is everybody jumping in the portal? Because y'all don't know what be going on from year to year bro people got to make the best decisions for them as players coaches can leave with no penalty but y'all be tripping when the kid make a good decision for him if you have an issue with that do you like they say tournament because right now every team that's good right now is because of transfers shut the fuck up so like you said your first year in the league You was in Minnesota Like That's crazy

Because if you think about All those guys you talking about now They're all in different situations Right now Did we all think Levine was going to be Close to better than Wiggins I knew he was talented

You was smoking it early I'll give you a props You did say that early I always thought he was nice But I didn't think he was going to be As cold as Wigg was I always thought Wigg was cold Wigg is cold

Oh for sure But that had to be the highest jumping team in the league, bro. Yeah. All y'all. Wigg and Zach on one team. Y'all wouldn't win this shit. But y'all was jumping high. Man, after practice, we was having a crazy dunk contest.

Look, all y'all fucking champions and shit. You got a Zach got one. Wigg wouldn't do it, but shit. That's scary. Yeah, that's crazy. But me and Zach, because we was drafted together, so we was just home. That was the homie, man. I used to take water to his crib, because I remember he wouldn't even drink no water.

We would go to a restaurant. He just fries, milkshake. So I'm like, you know, go back to the story with Pops. Yeah, yeah. Man, you got to do this. You know, at 19, you know, I'm trying to tell him. So we would just go back to the crib and play video games the whole day, hit the gym at night.

And Zach was like that. He was a dog. And I knew Zach was going to be nice just the fact that he had that in him. But to go back to what we were talking about, Trey Burke was that way. And when y'all asked me about Trey, Trey set the tone. And I was already getting up from high school like that. Trey set the tone for me staying in the gym at night. Trey would be in the gym until 3 a.m.

Damn. Yeah. We would order the little meal cards that you get in school. We'd order the meal cards, the pizza, or whatever we get for free to the arena. And we'd be like, yeah, drop it off here. We'd eat, go play video games. We'd be right back out there at 3 a.m. Because, you know, we in the dorm.

Ain't nobody trying to stay in the B-line. Wouldn't let us stay in the apartment. So we like, man, we in the dorms. We might as well stay in the gym the whole night. We was in there all night. And that's where I got that from. That's crazy. Did you, when you was away, you was just working out with the team?

Were you doing your own shit? Nah, I lived in the gym in college. I didn't start. I took basketball seriously when I got to college. When I was in the gym in college. I didn't start. I took basketball seriously when I got to college. High school, I don't give a fuck. But when I got to college, I lived in the gym. It was nothing to do at Wake Forest. So I shot

2,000 shots a day. Me and this dude named Gary Clark. That's crazy. Yeah, that's all we did. I literally, I never went out. I never went to, I went to two parties my whole time at Wake Forest. Damn. Yeah. Unless we went to a club after a game. we went to the N Club twice or something like that.

But I never went out. I didn't even talk. I walked around with my headphones on. Talking to two people, James Johnson and Gary Clark. You ever ask anybody at Wake Forest campus, they be like, that nigga T was probably weird. I ain't speak to nobody. Football niggas, boy, what up? That was just me, bro. Rob Markman, That's how I thought you was when we first met, because I ain't

know T back then. I'm from Gary, and y'all from down here. So I'm like, man, I ain't know you. So I had to introduce myself. Rob Markman, He thought he was a weird ass nigga. Rob Markman, He like, I ain't know if people's going to mess with me or not. Because I'm like, man, I'm from the G and he down here. And he like, nah, what up G?

I know your pops from back in the A, you know, ATL. You know, be at the barbershop, blah, blah. Because my pops stay in the A. So we was just shopping up then. But I was like, nah, bro ain't going to mess with nobody on the team. He's just going to stay to himself. That's usually how I am. But I was like, that's my man.

He off top. I was like, that's my man. He off top, I was like, that's my man. Rob Markman That's crazy though, because when you think about it, that sounds real casual that y'all just saying that shit, but that's really incredible. Niggas really lived in the gym. You have to be that dedicated to separate yourself in them times and situations. But it's funny as hell just because with your demeanor, you acting like that makes so much sense. It was definitely-

Rob Markman, It's just so on brand for that shit. Also, you know what I'm saying? You got to represent from the 219 right now. We got some things going on because the outside world disrespects Indiana. Y'all got to claim the Indian animals, bro. We got to trace they zip code and make sure that they not from the 317, but we going to put them on the 219 until y'all get this shit sorted out. Because I get tired of when we go places and people be saying,

Eddie Animals. Don't do that shit. No, that's true. That's definitely not us. I won't. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Love to 219, but I need you to speak to your people. Y'all going to have to get to the bottom of that.

I'm putting that on y'all. I'm not accepting that no more. I don't know about that. Put them in one of y'all. You know what I'm saying? Marable, that got space for the niggas. Hobart, you know what I'm saying? Y'all can throw them off at Hobart, but y'all got to what I'm saying Marable That got space for the niggas Hobart You know what I'm saying Y'all can throw him off

At Hobart But y'all gotta Take care of the niggas We don't That's that Idiotable shit That is not Idiotapolis bro

That ain't it Hell nah That's funny as hell But so like You know what I'm saying You making it to the league Now as your relationship Grows with your pops

I mean not grows Obviously as your dad But like Is this different talk now Are you growing? You got your own bread. You in the league. Is the conversations changing?

Obviously, he's still guiding you, but how did those conversations evolve? Yeah, I mean, throughout the years, they just been evolving. I mean, finance, we talk about money. A lot of people don't know, my pops was the first one to ask for $100 million. Facts.

And I don't think he wanted to do it, but his agent at the time was like, nah, we're going to go push for this $100. And the Bucks ended up giving him $68, but still to ask for it, he opened up that gate for a lot of people to go get that back. That's some facts. Shout out to Jawan Howard. Yeah, so I always got to keep that in the back of my mind. It's like, man, my pops really reinvented a lot of stuff, and he was a dog.

But outside of that, I also respect who he is and as a father, you know, to be able to lead. Because I know what it takes. We know what it takes to be in a league nine months out of your time and then to still be with the family and do what you got to do. I respect that for real. So we talk about a lot of different stuff. And I got a daughter now who's five, so I need that guidance in my life, you know, in terms of all the investments, you know, all type of stuff. Yeah, that's fire.

Like you said, you see your pops do it his way and the right way at the same time. So now it's like, all right, G, you in the league now. This conversation is different. Put your money here. Put your stuff here. Don't be asking me for no money because you rich. I know how much money you make. You ain't get no payday loans.

Yeah, no, my pops was always good always good though because a lot of people they they really don't they think like we we me and my brother grew up with pops and we was like really spoon fed but i grew up my mom and my grandma my dad did what he had to do was on the road we seen him when he could and i respect that but i grew up my mom my mom and my grandma, and they from the G. And it's like, man, everything we do is the right way. You know, they ain't going for nothing sloppy. So, mom. Yeah, man. And, you know, she told me to go back to school.

When I left, she like, you going to go back to school and do that? And I just finished up Harvard Business School. So I went back and did that. And I've been doing my thing. Appreciate it. Hey, congrats, man. Yeah, I was going to get to that. That's hard. How was it going to school? Because I mean, you know what I'm saying, the last time you went to school was a little different.

Last time I went to school, I think it was, man, what, 2014. So I'm like trying to back up. Like, I opened up a book. I'm like, man, it's been a minute. It was a bunch of reading and all that, but I knocked it out. I ended up getting number one in the class. Hey, congrats, bro. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. But I want to, number one in the class. Hey, congrats, bro. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. But I want to start my own business, open up business companies and all of that. A lot of stuff I've been interested in, I've been knocking out throughout these past two

years that I've been stepping away from the game since Sacramento. Take care of my daughter, but I got into real estate, crypto. I got a chance to learn all that. Stocks. I really teach myself all that shit. Rob Markman, And that's what's important, man. Like you see now, so many athletes, we don't hear too many of those typical stories of athletes going broke no more because it's draining.

I don't want to be on 30 for 30, but I got all these avenues and there's people to teach you. But like you said, you went back to school and you ain't go to Ivy Tech. No disrespect to Ivy Tech, but you went to the fucking Ivy League. I can only imagine the last time I went back and looked at a fucking textbook, and like you said, when you was back in school, you was windmilling on shit. You was getting your grades in, but you wasn't trying that Dean's lipstick. That's hard.

Rob Markman, I couldn't imagine going to school. Rob Markman, Dog. Rob Markman, It was crazy though, because it's like, all right, y'all know Gillette Razor, Shave and Company. It's like, all right, we got to break down the company, look at a bunch of numbers, and it's like, what did they do that was different that made them successful? And when they shit wasn't selling, they cut the prices in half, or they cut it down a certain amount.

So, it's just knowing how to operate that business and how to... Because these folks talk about $200 million, $300 million companies, like it's nothing. Rob Markman, Nothing, yeah. It's different. Rob Markman, The owner... I knew I wanted to get into business, be involved in all this stuff when the owner of Minnesota, his name Glenn Taylor, but he own a recycling company. He come to the games every day laughing at us on the court, just happy as hell. I'm like, whoa, dude, different.

I want to do that. Rob Markman, That paper. Exactly. So that's what it's about, man. It's just leveling up so I can teach my daughter, I can teach the next generations. Like you said, I got a foundation, but I think it's important that we learn all that stuff so we can stay on top, not

just get there. You know what I'm saying? We got to stay on top. Yeah, because like you said, the way that they break down companies, you be like, damn, that's just shit on a $200 million company. Dog, I'd be happy if I had a $10 million company. And then you see that difference, and you're like, oh, okay. You got to play this game. That shit crazy. Exactly. And then you see that difference and you're like, oh, okay, you got to play this game.

That shit crazy. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And we got it in us because it's with everything. The same thing with the shoe game. Everything that we do,

it's ways to, whatever you're interested in, it's ways to build that out to be a master at that and to make a successful business. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Especially with marketing

because we make everything dope. We be championing the craziest shit and we be the reason when it dies. We really be having all the control shit. If niggas got on TV, and we say, hey, we ain't fucking with Jordans no more, and really stuck to it, it's going to be a difference. They going to sit on the store. Yeah, you ain't got to wait for your Jordans in the mail. You can go to River Oaks and pick them shits up.

Rob Markman, Jr.: When you stopped hooping, did you go straight to school or you took a little break? Rob Markman, Yeah, nah. So I was with the Kings and I think it was February or March when I got released. And a lot of people don't know, I had hyperextended my knee twice. So I'm on the court, I think I was closing out on Jimmy Butler with the Heat, and I'm closing out and my knee just locked and just gave out. And that's a scary feeling when you're just running and you just give out.

So that ended up happening twice. Right before the Kings situation, I ended up leaving the team and then just got my stuff right here in Indianapolis. It's home for me. Made sure my knee was right. Got all the therapy. Shellborn? Yeah.

And then just made sure I just handled what I wanted to handle and what I wanted to do with my time. And now I got everything that I need to get out the way, and now I'm focused on getting back to the league. And like I say, starting my business. I ain't announced it yet, but it's something to do with involving with dunking and hooping for the next generation. It's introducing that to them so that I got to source the secrets to that skill.

We can talk about that, too. I remember when you was doing the dunk contest. That nigga's like, it's a way to jump. I'm like, nigga, what? You just going to go up there and jump? He's like, nah, it's a secret to everything. Oh, man, this nigga G got some Space Jam shit. G about to re-back the strip shoes.

Remember the East Bay? See, I bought all of them and everything. So that's the reason why I'm doing this is because I bought the shoes where it gave you the heel or whatever. The heel couldn't touch the ground. And, you know, I bought the DVDs to get my vertical up. And I put salt in my shoes like Jordan, everything. And I figured out the secrets to jumping, the sauce to jumping. That's hard.

I want to give back and do that, but scale it out and make it a business. As you should. Don't do nothing for free. We can't now. We can't now. That's hard. You stuck that in there. You're working back to get back active in these streets. You see they handing out the bags. Go get you another one. I got a couple

questions for you. As far as your pro career, what was the favorite team you played on so far? The Warriors, without a doubt. I can fucking imagine. Rob Markman, A lot of people, that's a crazy topic, because a lot of people, they shit on us that year with the Warriors. They like, oh, y'all was trash. We was.

We ain't win a lot of games, but I'm looking at it like, I'm here guarding Brian every night. I'm guarding Brian, Kawhi, PG. Every night, I'm at that three spot. I'm here guarding Brian every night. I'm guarding Brian, Kawhi, PG. You know, every night I'm at that three spot. I'm starting. I'm doing what I got to do on both ends of the court, having the career numbers. But besides all of that, playing with Dre, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, getting to see them, like what they really like, it was crazy.

Like Steve Kerr, I remember during practice one time, he like, all right, we're going to call the play reverse. He was like, nah, scratch that. I got it. I drive a Tesla. I'm going to click it like this. We call it reverse. Rob Markman, I'm like, yo, but it's just stuff like that throughout the practice where

it keep us locked in. We laughing and shit, but he like, he think it's a funny joke, but we really like locked in. Now we like, all right, reverse. Everybody run reverse, you know? Rob Markman, But Coach like that, man. Sometimes you walk in the gym, he like, 75 and sunny. Just go enjoy some sun. Get y'all shots up.

Go enjoy some sun. No practice. Damn. You know what I'm saying? I ain't had to meet him. I'm kind of cool. Woody wasn't going for that shit? That's all you needed.

No, Woody wasn't doing that. Bud was kind of like, Bud would do that. Bud was like that. What was their work ethic like, seeing Draymond and all them? Theirs. Theirs. I mean, I know you clearly, baby. was like that. What was their work ethic like? Seeing Draymond and how they're there. I mean, I know you clearly, you the thousand ice ice ice on your oar. I know you're dedicated.

See the first ice ice? You said ice ice. Look, you've been dedicated since that motherfucking incubator. Since you was in that little my size oven. Alright, know your work ethic. Wake and bake. You've been dedicated since that motherfucking incubator. Since you was in that little my size oven, nigga. All right, no, you're working. That wake and bake.

But now, how was they shit, though? Watching them, Clay, Steph. Steph Curry is a different beast, man. Anything hand-eye coordination. I think I seen an interview with Andre Iguodala saying it, but anything hand-eye coordination where if Steph was shooting from a mile away, he going to hit the target. If he darts, he going to hit the target. Pool table, he going to knock that down.

Anything hand-eye coordination, Steph on it. He really liked that. But as far as his practice time, it's crazy, man. Dude don't stop running. You see why he in shape. Rob Markman, Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You see why he in shape. You know what I'm saying? You see why he is successful.

He get to the gym early every day and he put in his work. You know what I'm saying? So I respect all of them because too, Dre will pull up here to the pocket. You know how Dre is. Dre cool as hell. So same thing with Klay. They all just, they don't operate like the superstar mentality where they can't do nothing. You know what I'm saying? They operate off love for the teammates. You can't do nothing but respect that.

For sure. Yeah, I'm one of the... I feel like Clay Thompson's tough. That's always been one of my favorite players, but you can tell the culture, like you said, I hate when people say that word, but you can tell the culture, the relationships they got there, that shit genuine. But especially y'all who play on multiple teams, you go from places that's really lit like that, and then you go to another organization that's like,

nah, these niggas ain't on this at all. It's hard to dial in after that shit. You got to really differentiate. Well, shit, let's talk about that pressure, Squiddy. Oh, yeah. I mean, I went from Atlanta to the Pacers. I love the people at the Pacers. The people at the Pacers are good people.

Like, the people around the organization are good people. But that team was just not. Boy, dysfunctional. It was dysfunctional. I love some of the people on that team, though. See, the thing I think with the Pacers that make them, you know, like a decent organization is they do the small things. Like, when I came here, I was in Minnesota. There wasn't nobody to help me find a crib, a car.

My mama out there with me. We trying to go get my furniture, in between practices and shit. I get to Indiana, they got everything set up. Karen called like, hey, we got the houses set up. You want to go check out the cribs? We got Ford dealership. Everything lined up with the Pacers. Rob Markman, That's hard.

Rob Markman, As far as everything else that was going on during that time. Rob Markman, That locker room. Rob Markman, It was a was going on during that time. That locker room. It was a crazy time for the Pacers and Indiana Panthers. That Pacer team, the organization is great though. They was really good people. What's your funnest Pacer moment though, off the court with the squad? Did y'all ever go out somewhere,

at least I know it was hectic, but can you remember a time when y'all stepped out somewhere and y'all just enjoyed each other paws, but you know what I mean, just take it. I don't remember really doing much with that team. Really? Ain't two games. Y'all niggas didn't go to one little spot that was lit.

I mean, we went places, but, like, as a group, we went, like. That's a different-ass team, though. If you look at the different individuals on that team, I can't see them niggas clicking up. I remember, was it your year? I think I got hurt, and there was my ankle. I got hurt in my ankle and I got back from my surgery and the whole team was at my crib. We was doing some type of team bonding.

It was a mandatory team bonding thing. I was like, yeah, we're going to have it at my crib and I ended up getting hurt. So I come back from surgery. I'm high off the stuff that they gave me from the surgery. Perk 30. I just popped the perk 30. Rob Markman, Jr.: I get back to the crib. I don't know anybody that's there.

You know, I'm feeling wavy. The whole Pacers squad is in there, you know? So that was funny. I'll never forget that day. Rob Markman, Jr.: Damn. Rob Markman, Jr.: I thought you was on that team. Rob Markman, Jr.: Nah, I wasn't on that team. The year I was there, that's when you was like coming into your own.

And I'm like, why y'all don't start this for me? I was throwing him live. We had a little backdoor play. I'm like, why y'all don't start this for me? I was calling him live. We had a little backdoor play. I'm like, every time. Every time. He used to say that. He was like, every time. I'm going to throw it.

I'm going to throw it. Every time. It did. But they wasn't feeling that. They wasn't feeling that. It really is. But I remember when he was starting, we were on a win streak.

Because we was winning all our games at home. And then, you know. Yeah. Shit go how it go. Y'all be so sad games at home. And then, you know. Yeah. Shit go. How it go. Y'all be so sad talking about, you know, I love it. But I be so sad. The energy just drained.

It wasn't like that. It was like, that's how you could have been. We were supposed to be in. It was supposed to be nice. Man. If you go down that line, man, that was cool, bro. We started the year off with Stucky. We had so many people on that team, bro.

It was so many under six foot guards on that team. Stucky, Tay, you. Shout out to Miles. CJ. CJ, Miles, yeah. Did we have CJ Watson at some point, too? Fuck it. We had all the CJs.

Fuck. I remember I texted this nigga after the first game. I said, you know what? That motherfucker Miles, he might be worth a damn. And after that, I said, I'm not fucking with Jeff. Jeff hit that fake pass and then threw that bitch off. I was like, oh, we lit this year. He came and punched that bitch. And then we just looked and everybody was like, fuck.

We just couldn't win on the road, bro. We won all our games at home. I think we won like 30 games at home. We was losing to the Nets that time. That's when the Nets won. Shit, that's when the Nets won. We was losing to the Nets. We was losing to everybody on the road, bro.

I think we won like seven games on the road. Which I think it was, though. I think it was just. Well, obviously we had the talent. It wasn't the road. Which I think it was though. I think it was just, you had to pick something. Well, obviously we had the talent. It wasn't that food, the chemistry. Yeah.

It was all bad. As soon as I got there, as soon as I walked in the door, it was over. Can we blame Jeff? It wasn't all you though. We had a lot of, it was a lot. It was a lot of shit going on. I was the team, like the team mentor.

I was a youngin'. You youngin'. I was a youngin', but mama was coming to me. I'm like, yo, I'm just trying to keep up with the wave, keep up with everything that's going on. Bro, this shit was crazy. I'm young, so my eyes are bright. I'm trying to look around, see what's going on.

Every day, it was something. I'm like, man, this is crazy. I just put my head down. I'm like, man, I might go get some money, man. They turn the youngster into the therapist. Oh, God, man. I used to tell him, like, bro, you're going to man. Turn the youngster into the therapist. Oh God. I used to tell him like, bro, you gonna be good.

You just gotta play. They gotta let you play. Yeah. They were not playing like they should've. That's crazy. So we can blame Jeff for that Pacers team, is what you saying? Nah.

Let's run with that narrative. I played a big part. I probably was like 60%. I'll take that. I played a big part. I probably was like 60%. I take that. That's a nice shot. Cause I just wasn't open to being like. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it. Yeah, we not just weren't open to the idea

of being like that guy. I was like, fuck that. They gonna have to be cool with me. Ain't about to go, ain't about to be all around. I ain't riding nobody meat paws. Like shit. Go say hi to me, motherfucker.

You was supposed to jump on PG back, bro. See what I'm saying, man? He messy, man. It was just trying to ruin to bring Gordon Harrell to Indianapolis. See what I'm saying, bro? It wasn't me, bro.

They love Gordon Harrell. I wasn't mad. We played the Hornets last week. I heard the Broncos. They was like, Gordon Harrell would be a still do. I wasn't mad. No, we played the Hornets last week. I heard the broadcast. They was like, Gordon Hayward would be a great addition. I swear to God. No. No.

Y'all could use him. No. Stop it until that happens. That's going to happen. It's going to happen. He's going to retire. No. Look what they did to Ricky Rubio.

They wished him to be a Pacer forever. He didn't even play. They was like, at some point, we going to get this nigga on the roster. They know they wanted Ricky. They tried to get Ricky for like three straight years. He was there even play. It was like, at some point, we gonna get this nigga on the roster. They ain't know they wanted Ricky. They tried to get Ricky for like three straight years. He was there last year, but remember,

he was hurt. He didn't ever play for the Pacers, but they was determined to get that motherfucker 3-1-7 and got them. That's what they gonna do. What year did you

enter the dunk contest? 2017. 17 is when I won. So that was that next year. Yeah, that was it. That was that year. Yeah. And try to play together. Okay, okay. Yeah, because that's when I came up So that was that next year. Yeah, that was it. That was that year. Yeah. And then-

And then try to play together. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's when I came up to you and I told you like, I'm about to win this motherfucker. And he was in there practicing. Yeah.

And I'm watching the nigga through the door. I'm like, oh shit. I see what he doing. Like, I ain't gonna say that, but yeah, I say that shit. I'm like, okay. Yeah. How quickly did you sign that shoe there with that championship? Man, well, it was crazy. I say this shit. I'm like, okay. How quick did you sign that shoe deal with that championship?

Man, well, it was crazy. I was signing D-Wade's shoes. So, you know, coming out, we could talk about that. It was, they give you the options. You know, Nike going to give you, like, 25 bands and give you, like, the rest in gear. You know, 25 bands, 25 bands in gear. Adidas going to give you, like, whatever. Lee Ning was like, all right, we'll throw you a bag.

So I'm like, all right, I'm going with Lee Ning. Out the gate. Out the gate. And I was one of the first ones, you know, that take that type of deal. It was my rookie year. D-Wade ended up seeing me with the summer league, and then I did a 360.

D-Wade seen me and was like, no, you're coming over way, way. So ever since then, me and D-Wade, we got cool. He let me make my own shoes. I put the logo on my shoes. We did a shoe here in Indianapolis, everything. So we was like, yo, we want to do a crazy shoe for the dunk contest. When you take pictures and the flash go, the whole shoe going to be reflective and it's going to change colors. So they did that on a shoe for me. And I ended up,. I had two or three different shoes that I wore, but the eyes were stacked against me crazy.

I remember it was me, Aaron Gordon, DeAndre Jordan, and Derrick Jones Jr. My agent had called me because at first I'm like, nah, I can dunk, but I don't think I'm going to do the dunk contest. I don't know if this for me. I don't do that type of style dunking. He called me back and was like, I got somebody for you. And I was like, okay, let me talk to the dude. He texts me, you going to do a 360 between the legs.

He's like, throw it out the backboard, double tap, tap, one between. He texts me a list of 10 dunks I had never heard before. I was like, he out his mind. Thought you was a motherfucking NBA jam player. Ain't no way. I met up with Dewey. He came to the Pacers facility one time after practice. We walked through the dunks that he had on the list, and I started making them.

And then he started stacking my cousin on top of boxes. So at this point, my cousin, like 7'1", 7'2", I'm clearing him. I'm jumping over him. This the first time I ever tried to jump over somebody. In 40 minutes, I'm starting clearing dude. I'm like, yeah, we going to win the dunk contest. Rob Markman, Yeah, I remember. Damn.

Rob Markman, That's the practice you was talking about. I'm going to win this shit. Rob Markman, I'm going to win this. Rob Markman, You was in the Pacer side gym? Rob Markman, Pacer side gym with all the brick in it. Rob Markman, It's still there. It's just the fevers now. Rob Markman, Yeah.

So yeah, man. And then we got to New Orleans and I didn't go out. I didn't do nothing. I'm like, nah, I ain't going out. I ain't partying. Rob Markman, Aw, damn. Rob Markman, I'm here to win a dunk contest. Because ever since a kid, that's what I wanted to do.

I seen pops want to ring and all that, but ain't nobody want a dunk contest. I'm like, nah, I need to do this. Rob Markman, That's hard. Rob Markman, As a kid, I broke my glass, the backboard, in my mom's crib outside. I shattered the whole backboard and everything, trying to lower the rim and dunk as a kid. So I'm replaying this in my mind as we pull up. Aaron Gordon in the locker room, DeAndre Jordan in the locker room, nobody stretched. We get out there and I'm the only one that's stretching.

I do some practice dunks. Nobody stretched, nobody did nothing. I still got that same mentality. I go out there, my first dunk was my best dunk. I stacked my cousin on top of somebody's shoulders and cleared them. And I feel like I scared the competition. And Gordon messed up his dunks, De'Azzy Jordan messed up they dunks, and I ended up winning. And I remember grabbing the trophy and felt like I blacked out as soon as I grabbed the trophy.

Everything that I wanted in my life as a kid, I blacked out as I grabbed it. I don't remember nothing else that happened as I raised it above my head. I grabbed the trophy, walked off, and Meek Mill was on the left. I was blacked out. I just walked straight past him. I think it was my mom or one of my homies was like, hey, gee, that's Meek right there. As a kid, high school growing up, Meek was that guy. Like I was listening to all Meek.

That was one of my guys. That was probably my favorite rapper. You a dream chaser. Man, dream chaser. What's crazy, I'm about to write this story. I ran back to him, shook his head. I'm like, I couldn't think of nothing. I'm still black at this point.

I'm like, dream chasers. That's all I said. Yeah. That's all I, yeah, dream chasers. I see it in you. I see it in you. I see it in you. I see it in you. Rob Markman, Jr.: Geo Melly. Yeah. Rob Markman, Jr.: After that though, it was crazy.

I started meeting a bunch of different people. I started to come into my own, like Ice Cube said, what's up at the garden, all type of stuff when we started playing. So it was love after that. Then it's hard, cause like you said, I don't know what they're gonna do with the dunk contest. Hopefully they get this shit back, cause last year definitely wasn't it.

It was good this year though. Yeah, Mack McClellan. Mack did his thing. Yeah, but the other shit was like, all right. DJ, it was good. It was good, bro. I'm hatin'. Yeah, you're hatin', bro.

That's fine, I'll be a hater. Them dunks that Mack was on, that's I'm hating. Yeah, you're hating, bro. That's fine. I'll be a hater. Them dunks that Mack was on, that's what I was talking about a little bit about my course. Them all secrets. You know what I'm saying? You seen it in that back gym. So I want to teach the youth, give away some of them tips. If I told you, hey, this is the one thing I'm going to give away free game.

The dunk coach, when he came up to me, he was like, hey, G, go between the legs. And I tried to do a between the legs dunk. I missed it. He was like, yo, go up under the knee. It's the same thing. It's just an illusion. I went up under my knee. I started cocking that bitch back when I did it.

I'm like, whoa, yeah, it's secrets to all of us. So that's just a little free game. And I'm a give to the youngins out there. Hold on, hold on, hold on, G. Use your knees. Pause. Yeah, that's just a little pregame and I'm a good to the young as out there. It's going to be. Hold on. Hold on. You don't need pause. Yeah. That's, that's wild.

Uh, but that makes sense though. So Duncan under is the exact same. I mean, it's going to look the same. It's going to look the same. Really? Damn. It's if you're doing it between the legs, don't like, cause most people between the leg, you're going to try to go between your legs

and do all of this. It's like, nah, just go up under your knee. Do a skip with the dunk. Go up under your knee and you'll get it. That makes a lot of sense when you just made it that simple. So it's a bunch of stuff that's really that simple. And y'all know how 2K got the whole layout where it's like, all right, you can do Jordan's dunk, Blake Griffin's dunk, all that.

I can teach you Jordan's dunk, Blake Griffin's dunk. Anybody's dunk, it's all just a simulation. It's easy. So I'm excited to teach that. Rob Markman, Yeah, it's about to be nice. Rob Markman, That's what I've been building now through Harvard. Rob Markman, Through Harvard. You heard that last part.

Make sure it's through Harvard. Yeah. Rob Markman, We ain't going to school for nothing, nigga. Rob Markman, You got tips and shit. I thought you had some drugs for sale. Rob Markman, My young boy, the eighth grade, G. Tell me how much prescription, what we got to do. Rob Markman, The pills?

Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, The pills. Rob Markman, for sale. My young boy, the eighth grade, G, tell me how much prescription, what we got to do. In my head, G went to Harvard, G got a pill plug,

he tapped in. God damn it. I'm out of that. I didn't know what the point was. You thought you was going to get that bra? That Miami bra. We about to shine little Bobby up, nigga. That German.

See, this close. G-Pill going to take you up to there. Nigga, I'm about to take that pill. I'll be back hoovering. You got a new invention I'm about to work on. Oh, yeah. Don't worry. For sure. We're going to put the podcast on hold. Everybody's going to be back hoovering for to work on. Oh, yeah. Don't worry. For sure.

We're going to put the podcast on hold. Everybody go back to Hoop for two more years. God, bro. Give me my knees back. Yo, that nigga knees got cabbage in them, man. It's over with. It's over for my nigga knees. You are stupid, man.

How has it been, you know what I'm saying, trying to get back to game speed? Like, how has that been, you know what I'm saying, tapping back getting back to get to game speed? Like, how has that been, you know what I'm saying, tapping back in heavy into it? Like you said, you was in school, and that was your undivided focus, especially with you having a baby, taking care of that situation. How is it back now? Are you feeling the love back into the game, or did it ever leave,

or do you feel rejuvenated with it again? Yeah, it's funny because I got a love-hate relationship with the game. I always have since I've grown up, you know. It's what I do, but I got a passion for a lot of other things. But I can only get to the other things through Hooper. Doing this. And that's what I do, and it's part of what I do. I love Hooper, but it's at times where, and I did.

I took a step away. I handled what I had to handle. When stuff was crazy, it was all over the place. I got traded on the plane. I got traded on the plane from the Warriors to Philly. Y'all know how it go. And after so long, seven, eight years, I'm like, whoa, this is a lot. You know what I'm saying?

But I'm enjoying getting back to it and getting into that routine because I think that's one thing about Hoopers is we got a routine. Well, you know how it is. We wake up on the daily and it's like, all right, we get to it, get our work in throughout the day, and then you handle your business at the 2, 3 p.m. if you ain't got a routine where you know how it is. We wake up on the daily, and it's like, all right, we get to it, get our work in throughout the day, and then you handle your business at the 2, 3 p.m. if you ain't got a game. So it's been a mood of Cali recently.

Okay. So I got a gym right off the water, you know, right off the coast that I can go work out in. I love the water, so I get to see the water every day and stuff. So it's been a vibe, man. Oh, yeah, you got a good-ass training facility. You are here in vacation mode. You know what I'm saying?

Open the gym doors. And that's what people don't understand a lot. And you can attest to this. It's not that people don't like doing their profession in sports, whatever it is, but the business of sports is totally different than the outside person would ever understand. Like you said, you got traded on a team flight. That's just like me driving to work and motherfuckers telling me,

yeah, before you pull up, don't. Like, that'll fuck your whole day up. You got to go 48 hours to report, and you might fuck around and have to play. That shit crazy to adjust to. And people don't understand how much that account. They just think, oh, you get paid a lot of money. No, my whole life has changed. I got to move my daughter across the fucking nation.

I got to find somewhere to live between practice, like you said yeah don't let me come out here my first game man i threw me in i ain't doing shit and i ain't in the rotation for two weeks like that shit i can understand like that way on people people don't understand like that performance shit is real like you gotta perform yeah yeah no it is what it is you know and i think it's i understand the fan side of it i think it's just a lot of people to realize we real people at the end of the day. So, you know, I'm not with the whole, like, you know, everybody want to have their time to shine on the mic and talk crazy. We was talking about Stephen A. Smith. We don't get to him.

But, you know, everybody want to put the mic in front of their face and say crazy. I'm not that type of person. You know, it is what it is. But I think fans should realize that we human beings at the same time. So anything, don't be tweeting crazy stuff. The DMs is... You know what I'm saying? I really didn't understand how crazy fans was until we got to the league. You know after the game, they send you some crazy shit.

Rob Markman Yeah, they say anything. Anything. So then fan doors, all this stuff come around. They started betting, and now it's really popular. Six, seven years ago, I first came to the league, they was on that. I'm like, man, now it's crazy with the whole betting. I can only imagine what they sending some people on there. Rob Markman, I was in Milwaukee, nigga. I started with one of Bobby Porter's rebounds.

Bro, I got the most hate mail I ever got in my life. It was like a parlay. I don't even know how it go, but Bobby needed 10 rebounds for everybody to win. So, you know how Bobby got the little chant. Everybody like, Bobby, Bobby. That shit came from that. Because, nigga, he was about to win a parlay. So, like, he needed one more rebound.

And Bud was like, took him out. And he like, put Bobby in. Bobby. Everybody in the arena yelling Bobby. So, Bobby standing up like, hey, fuck with me. I'm like, and I'm like, damn, they really love this nigga. And then one of the fans was like, he needs one more rebound, T. You fucked it up.

And I'm like, damn. Did you sub them for him? Nah. He took his rebound. He had nine. But it was way earlier in the game, and the rebound came to me. Bobby was right there, and I just grabbed it and pushed the ball before it. And they was just like, that could have been

his fucking rebound. I could have won $1,000. Y'all for real? I'm like, put that nigga back in. I just got here. That's crazy. Yeah, they be going crazy now. Hey, listen, I got beef with niggas to this day I've never met because they fucked up

a parlay. But I ain't sending nobody no. That's out of pocket. When I was in Minnesota, bro, they was out of pocket. niggas to this day I've never met because they fucked up a parlay but I hate sitting nobody know that's out of pocket when I was in Minnesota bro they was out of pocket yeah that's all the time you got like unmitigated yeah I got no love for Minnesota you almost got some hate mail from me for that Cleveland State game I would have gave up oh yeah yeah I wouldn't care we ain't gotta have no flashback but yeah yeah that Yeah, that is. Nah, but Minnesota. Nah, bro. I got one ounce of love.

In Minnesota. I just got to type in Jeff Teague on Twitter. Just hashtag. Bro, I told y'all. That shit is so funny, bro. The Pacers picture of you holding your face on a bench is tweeted every day by some Pacers person. And I was like, this nigga don't even be on Twitter and don't know how funny this is. I don't be on there at all.

It's crazy. I literally, Minnesota was like, this nigga don't even be on Twitter and don't know how funny this is. Rob Markman, I don't be on there at all. Rob Markman, It's crazy. I literally, Minnesota was like the worst experience ever. Rob Markman, I swear the guy was already ice cold. I could even walk outside. Make a fucking shot. Rob Markman, Bitch I don't get to shoot. He don't get to shoot.

Rob Markman, I don't get to shoot. Look, got all the bitch in the head like, I had to. I don't get to shoot. Yeah, I got cat weed. Rob Markman, Walking outside the warmest car up. Fuck, I don't get to shoot. I don't get to shoot. Rob Markman, I don't get to shoot.

I don't get to shoot. I don't get to shoot. Rob Markman, I don't get to shoot. I don't get to shoot. I don't get to shoot. I had to. I don't get to shoot. Yeah, I got cat meat. Nigga walking outside to warm his car up. Fuck, I'm on his ass. I'll be mad as hell. It's cold as fuck. Y'all niggas are crazy. Cold as hell.

I'm getting gas and shit. She's like, turn and watch who you dribble. I used to be like, get the ball. Get the ball. I'm fucking dead. It's crazy, man. Hey, fans are fucking stupid. I couldn't wait to leave that motherfucker, man.

I was like, they got to get me the fuck out of here. I'm nothing to you getting 20-0, pump three, and get the ball. Fuck you. We're the guys, bro. Who you talking to? And I live downtown, so it was worse. I'm like, y'all need to come to the game. Game be empty.

What was the best city or the worst city you lived in?. Like, damn. I'm like, y'all need to come to the game. Game be empty. What could you talk about? What was the best city or the worst city you lived in? I mean, G. I'ma keep saying San Fran was, man, I had the time of my life in San Fran. Nah, the worst. I know the worst city. The worst city?

Detroit. You know, me being from Michigan though, so it's a little bit better, but probably Sacramento, the Kings. Kings or Philly. Even my pops was the Kings. Kings or Philly. Even my pops was a little iffy on Philly. Both times I went to Philly, he like, oh shit. Damn, here we go again.

That's how we felt. They don't like shit in Philly. They don't like Santa Claus. They'll boo you in the first quarter. They don't play it. But when they love you, they love you. When they love you, they love you. Who they love besides Allen Iverson.

When Brett Brown was there. Y'all was bad. Man. They loved Iggy, bro, in Philly, for sure. They wanted him out. And Lou Will. Well, everybody loves Lou Will. Yeah, Lou, Lou.

There's tough love in Philly. It's all love there. It's tough love. It's just a hard city to play in. Something about the organization, some teams got that organization to where it's just something rocky about them. Damn, that's crazy.

Y'all see it. Well, I'm a Pacers fan, I know. That's Minnesota, it's just rocky. It's probably cooler, I don't know, cause Alex Rodriguez and them there now, but before that it was a little spooky. Yeah, he was there. They actually, it's real cool people there,

but it's just like something we probably gonna lose. Target center wasn't built up how it was in my rookie year. So at least you had a little bit of that. Barely. And then when we got there, cause Jimmy started complaining, Jimmy was like, take that down, take that down, take that down. I was like, this dude crazy.

Damn. I was like, that's ugly. Take that down. Do y'all care about the players? Take this down. I'm like, care about the players? Take this down. I'm like, damn. You had the sleeve jerseys when you was in Minnesota. The NBA is nasty for that.

For making niggas hoop in short sleeve jerseys. I wanted one of them. I thought those was tight, bro. Y'all fucked with them? I mean, you ain't wearing with no fit. It was on certain teams that had them. Yeah, we ain't had them with the Hawks. Brian was ripping.

Brian different. But you them with the Hawks. Our Hawks had them with the Boos. Brian was ripping. Brian different. But you got on the jersey now. That motherfucker had the sleeves on it. Nasty. Disgusting. This would have been disgusting. Over the shoulder. Because Adidas wild out.

Because I remember the Louisville ones, when they play, I said, oh, these are nasty. These are softball uniforms. Yeah, they good. Yeah, that's when they started them. Yeah, they had niggas hooping a v-necks that was out of pocket that wasn't the league wasn't dude oh that's nasty so we gotta get into it man obviously you know your pops is a legend you know i'm saying he had a particular philly quote-unquote legend a little

bit shook speaking about how people get on microphones and talk crazy i think that even though it is hilarious some of these niggas who have podcasts while they're playing have to chill out for a second. The live updates after games be crazy, because they be talking insane about games that we know really don't be mattering. I fuck with it. I fuck with it to an extent,

but I'd be like, some of that shit be like, all right, y'all, we got to chill out. Draymond's shit be funny, because Draymond know how to do that shit. Pat Bev be hit or miss with me, even though I fuck with Pat Bev Hey I think it all funny Because I wish I would have did it

Because I would have been talking crazy Always In Minnesota? I'm like What? I was going to say Minnesota This shit was awful I would have been over there like

You would have been wild This shit's awful over here They don't pass the fucking ball You don't even do it respectfully You would have been lit though You would've been lit But they would've got you The fuck up out of there

Yeah That would've been my plan You would've got traded like G I would've been I did get traded like that For real Wait Where'd you find out

On the plane The guy was complaining I was coming to the coach To complain Like why the fuck You taking me out last night He was like perfect I need to talk to you

We've been waiting I'm like Ryan I'm like Ryan What up man Why you taking me out Last night man Good to see you Teague last night. He was like, perfect. I need to talk to you. We've been waiting. I'm like, Ryan, what up, man? Why you took me out last night, man? Good to see you, Teague. I scored eight and a quarter. Why you take me out? You scored your last eight here. Then GM walk in. He ain't like me from the beginning. He like, yeah, Teague, you just got traded.

I was like, the fuck I got? He like, yeah, I did you a favor. I'm like, oh, shit. I probably got to the Mavs. I'm about to go to the playoffs. He's like yeah, I did you a favor. I'm like, oh shit, I probably got to the Mavs. I'm about to go to the playoffs. He's like, I sent you back to Atlanta. I go, what? That ain't worse than that. I was like, why you trade me there?

He was like, you got a house there, don't you? I was like, it's a motherfucker. I was like, cool. But that's crazy. Was this the same GM that got you there? I was gonna say, there's no way that could have happened in that year. T.I.B.S. was there. Ah, there we go.

I prefer T.I.B.S. Shout out to T.I.B.S. My Minnesota, when they Minnesota cut me, I told y'all about that. And I was a rookie. And there was a one time I was sick. And I'm sick. I'm like, I ain't going to practice that. You know, you got to go get a doctor.

I'm on my way to the doctor because you got to get a real excuse like he really sick. I'm on my way to the doctor. Agent called me like, I think you're going to get traded today. Don't go in. You might not want to go in. Rob Markman, That's tough. Rob Markman, So I'm at the crib. I wasn't going in anyways.

I was sick. I started calling everybody like, yo, this is the one time I've been sick. The only time I'm a rookie. Nah, y'all can't do me like this. They ended up dropping my bags off at the front in garbage bags, in front of my condo building, just dropped it off in garbage bags. NBA different, bro. It's a brutal business.

And people don't understand that's why you got to get as much money as you can and get on. And like you said, them relationships, you know what I'm saying? Like, look what happened when you were in Michigan. You build a relationship. Everywhere you go, you build a relationship with people. Like you said, once you get in the NBA, you got to stay in because you get out. Everywhere you go, you build a relationship with people. Like you said, once you get in the NBA,

you got to stay in because you get out. It's the strategy behind it too. Like we talked about, if you can go higher, you know what I'm saying, or trying to scale out to get you top 10

or top 15 to team because it really matters if you lottery pick that difference between if you're going to that first four years or not. And you could be weak,

but a GM would much rather risk three years of almost being right than wasting it after one year of being wrong because then his ass is getting axed. Exactly. Man, so many wonderful stories. Before we get out of here, we got to hear, man, the iconic story, man. The 219 legend on Stephen A's ass, man.

Where the fuck did this happen from? Man, it's a crazy story. I think it started from, it's a coach with the Bucks. I forget who was the coach. They had a black coach back then. My pops, I guess they got into it. My pops like, I don't care if you black, white, whatever. We don't agree.

We don't agree. Steven A. Smith found it different and thought that pops was going at him because he black. We can do the research and see who the coach was, but it ain't nothing to my business. You know what I'm saying? It ain't got nothing to do with me. As we get to the story, Steven A, whatever happened between them happened. My pops called me one day like, hey son, you got a number to TMZ? I'm like, yo.

T-Fraud. I ain't... Something happened T-Fraud. T-Fraud. Rob Markman, I'm like, something happened. The article came out. Stephen A had just said something in the media. I'm like, pot, I can find it for you. I made a couple of calls, got on the number. I turn on the news, TMZ Sports. It's like Big Dawg asked to take Stephen A. Smith to the cage, to the UFC cage.

What? T- Say he wanted to see him in the ring. Oh, hell no. Something positive. Hey, positive. Positive, hey. Positive got on TMZ and said he wanted to FaceTime. Had you on some secretary shit. FaceTime with it, though.

Oh, wait. He was on a phone thing? He FaceTimed TMZ, called in like, hey, I don't care what he say, tell him meet me in the cage. Meet me in the cage. So Pops is real about it. So next thing I know we have a game in Houston. We play Houston. I guard James Hart, I had a pretty good game.

And it was, you know, Steven A had noticed me afterwards, you know, and he didn't really know, Gley Rousey in the third, I don't know if it clicked with him throughout my whole five years in the league before that. So then he come up to me in the back after the game and he was like, he said, hey Glenn, whatever happened between me and your pops, when I see him, I'm going to tell him that I didn't mean it. What's old is old.

We getting older. He got a son that's trying to make it in the league and I respect that you on your grind and trying to do that. And I'm looking at him like, hold on, this the same Steven A that's been talking all this crazy the whole time? Rob Markman, Jr.: Steven. Rob Markman, Jr.: And I couldn't wait to call my pops after that. Like yeah, he just showed his card right here.

That's exactly who he is. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about? Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah. But yeah, I don't like the beat that personally he tried to start with the players and how it's brought about. And then whatever said is said is done and need to be done. But for some reason he just dragged the thing along with my pops.

And it's like, man, even my pops say 30 years ago, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, that was forever ago. And he still want to put my name in his mouth,

but pop shut it down. Then when he said the UFC, he came and apologized quick. What's up with it? The fact that he had you call TMZ, that's top tier right there, bro. The fact that he FaceTimed TMZ is, I have never heard of a nigga FaceTiming TMZ. Paz don't do no interviews. At all.

No nothing. Ain't nobody heard from my, he stayed to himself, you know what I'm saying? And he called me like, you got the number to TMZ? Out of all places, T. Out of all places. That. Out of all places. Yeah, that's what had me weak. I was stuck like, ah, he a fraud. Mark Spears, he ain't ask nobody.

He said TMZ. Pops will keep me around some messy motherfuckers because he know what time it is. He know what blog is popping. Man, we calling straight in. We're going to not beat around the bush. I mean, he's smart, though. He can do ESPN.

They ain't going to filter. He said, nah, who going to get this message out? They probably answer that motherfucker like, hello? Rob Markman, They was ready for it, man. They let him cuss in there every time he was on there. I don't FaceTime with it. Rob Markman, You ever think about how crazy, how many points your pops are averaging in college?

Playing in college and you know, that shit is wild. Rob Markman, It's even crazy. My pops, so he didn't play his freshman year. He was in grades and then he was in college. He was in college. He was in college. He was in college. Rob Markman, I mean, he was in college.

He was in college. He was in college. He was in college. Rob Markman, I mean, he was in college. He was in college. He was in college. He was in college., playing in college. That shit is wild. Rob Markman, It's even crazy. My pops, so he didn't play his freshman year, he was in grades, and then he had me. I was born the next year. So they had me at school, and G and Katy, I probably shouldn't say this, but G and Katy was like, yo, your first born son got a scholarship to Purdue too.

So I could've went. Rob Markman, Aw, he did some shit. Rob Markman, I could've went. You know what I'm saying? Damn, Matt. Yeah, so. Matt Pater fucked up the bag. That's why y'all lost in the first round. I'm just saying things.

But man, it is crazy to look back and see. Everywhere I go out here in Indiana, people know Pop's name. Yeah, legend. Legend, bro. And it's been always crazy for me to deal with, as growing up, being the third, having the same name as him.

I used to hate it growing up, but when I hit a certain age, I was like, whoa, this could actually help me. You know what I'm saying? I started to really... My pops cool. I started to really see how cool my pops was. We do the same thing. I started to really take it for what it was worth. But I never... Sometimes I go back and pop in his old games from Purdue.

He dunked on Greg Ostertag. It's crazy to think about number one player in college basketball back then. 100 million and all of that stuff is crazy. Bro, to average that many points in college is crazy. I don't know why that nigga always just looks super big on TV, bro. He is. My brother is, because he's 6'9", like this. My brother is 6'1", just like this. I just got my eye out his height.

It's with the difference. I got to ask. I know got my eye out his height. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's with the difference. I got to ask, you know what I'm saying? I know it's a little bit of an age discrepancy, but you know what I'm saying? When did y'all get that one-on-one on, or did that ever happen? I know it happened. It's crazy. Somebody asked me this the other day, and they was like, yo, when was the first time that you beat your pops one-on-one?

And I was like, I think it was probably around middle school. And we would go out there in the summer with him for two weeks. And so we strapped him up, we in the gym. And it was like game point and I'm running around in circles trying to get pops tired. That's how I figured out I could beat him. I'm running around in circles like Teague up under the rim. Rob Markman, Jr.: That was the part where Minnesota would be laughing shit out of us talking about. Rob Markman, Jr.: Right. Fucking circus. Rob Markman, Jr.: So finally I hit game winning. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, and 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, and 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, and 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, and 2 Chainz.

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He was really unguardable, bro. Swear to God. Damn, that's crazy. Like you said, you got him in the eighth grade. Have you got him in 2K yet? Nah, nah. He a legend on 2K, man. Nah, 2K cold.

He locked in on 2K. He really cold, though. My top score, yeah. He played 2K more than me, and I played 2K. You ducking that smoke? Nah, he never ducking on Rick. You ducking that smoke? I ain't ducking on Rick, but his pops played 2K like the most.

That's hard. And at that time, I wasn't playing 2K when I lived in Atlanta, and he was on it. Like, yeah. You want to play? I'm like, hell no. Are you serious about that? He serious. He got us our first PlayStation, me and my brother.

And that's how we been, you know, either somebody go Xbox or PlayStation growing up. And then we went straight PlayStation. I'll never forget. He walked in with PlayStation and we could never beat him. And that's how he just left it at that. You got to keep something over your kids. Like, you know what I'm saying? You going to know what I'm saying?

I feel like every dad, they got it. You got to have something over your kids. Like, I don't care what you do. You're not going to fuck with me at this. I don't think my dad got me in nothing like that. I don't put that on Pop T. Nah, he better than me at pool. He better than me at pool.

He better than you at golf, too, bro. Nigga, I don't play golf. But you went out there. You right. He went out there. I could be better than him if I started playing. I can't wait till that nigga come on the show. He crazy.

Oh, man. Hey, first and foremost, man, we got to say congratulations. He crazy. Oh man. Hey, first and foremost, man, we gotta say congratulations. I got one more thing. Oh yeah, graduation. Oh yeah, go ahead. Take over. Like what's that, when you made it to the league, what's that league moment for you?

Like off the court. Like we, you know, everybody go out that first time. He be like, damn, I'm really in the league. Cause that dude just spent $50,000. Oh, you know what I mean? Y'all was in Minnesota, so y'all was young. Did y'all have a moment like that? Man, well, first, it was a moment.

I think it was my fourth year, and I was playing with the Pistons, and BG, Blake Griffin. Then I get to my rookie phrase. BG, we all went out to the club. Everybody on the team, we was out. I forgot what game it was. We won. We feeling good.

Blake like, yeah, come out. We going to go here. So we all go. BG ain't never show up. So we all in the locker room the next day, everybody tying their shoes, looking around at this nigga like, do he know? Man, we ran up the bill so bad that day. Everybody had Ace of Spades, the lighten up, bottles lighten up, everything. Rob Markman, The Nigga said bottles lighten up. Rob Markman, Disco barn coming down full of money, everything. Rob Markman, Jr.: I think he said bottles lighten up. Rob Markman, Jr.: Disco ball coming down full of money, everything.

Rob Markman, Jr.: In Detroit? Rob Markman, Jr.: Everything. I forgot where we was. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, I was going to say, y'all was clowning. Rob Markman, Jr.: I forgot where we was, but we came back to Detroit and we was in practice the next day and we looked around in the locker room and I was just looking at B. He sat next to me. I'm looking at him like, and he looked like, the fuck y'all looking at?

You know how he talk like, who the fuck y'all looking at? And everybody was like, nothing, don't worry about it. Ain't nobody ever say nothing to him. This is probably the first time you're going to find out about it. Yeah, he probably wrote a $100,000 bill. Damn, so the shit was just on him that night. Ace of Spades. Everything was on him.

You know, you play with a good vet like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the club. You know, he had his card or whatever now, and the whole situation's set up. Oh, okay. Oh, that's hard. We just had fun, and we didn't have to worry about nothing. I didn't get one of them.

He got an unbelievable bag for that. Yeah. Mo Williams, though, he used to give me his per diem every flight. He was second round, so he knew what it was like. And it was like 125 or whatever it was. But for him to give that to me every flight, I was like, you know, 100 coming into the league. I'm like, whoa, like this per deal?

I'm like, whoa, every flight? And you know, we going to LA trips two weeks. It's like two bands in a little bag. We get some. Whoa. Every time. Every flight. Mo Williams.

Shout out to Mo Williams. Never forget, he came to Baker's Life and gave us 55. Man. He was in Minnesota. Yeah, that's the team. Yes. Oh, you was on that team. That's the team I was on?

Tourist day, yeah. I could not believe it. I was just like, what the fuck? 55? It was random, too. It was a weeknight. All picking roles. It was the craziest shit ever.

I remember that. He was killing. Mid-range middie. Oh, my God. He was killing. And probably the last story I got for y'all, KD. I remember I got invited to the KD camp as a high school. You wanted to make it as a wing.

So I'm like, I think I faced him and everybody was scared to guard him. And you see KD, he's seven foot. He's skinny as hell. I'm like, I can lock him up. You know, I'm 19. I'm like, man, I'm pushing him over. Because back that time going into Michigan, I was like strong. Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, Man, KD came out there, hit me with a stiff arm, lay up, threw me back so bad in high

school. I was as a senior. I'm like, nah, this grown man strength. So I messaged him on Twitter and was like, I'm going to see you in the league. I still got the tweet to this day, but he ended up tweeting me back on DM like, I see you at the top, bro. To that day, I matched up against him with the Warriors, and he came at my neck three or four times straight.

I'm like, yo, that's probably the toughest matchup that I ever had, was KD. Seven foot dribble, shoot right over you. Rob Markman, Jr.: And shit, you guard a Bron, you guard a Kawhi, you said KD was that nigga that you just like- KD Rizzo, Jr.: Everybody Christmas, bro. Don't even feel no way like this. That was going to happen, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.: Who like the least expected person that you was hard?

You had the guard. Nobody would think he would really like that. We know everybody in the league is good. Oh, well, Luka, we know he liked that. Then Luka, a couple years ago, we didn't know everything about his game. We just knew he was coming from overseas. He started hitting me with the slow to quick. And some of them pass the ball and go cut off of it.

Some of the EuroLeague stuff. I was like, yo, he cold. It's hard to guard. Because he just looked like he ain't about to do some of that stuff. But Aaron Aflalo, my rookie year. Yes. They gassed me up to come into the game. I hadn't got in a game like that yet.

Speak high. Flip Saunders, he had just got sick. R.P. Flip. And he had just got sick. And I think Sam Mitchell took over. He gave me my shot. Sam was crazy as hell. He used to make me do all type of drills 50 times, yelling at you.

I get in the game, I sub in. He was gassing me up all morning. And the flower hit three straight corner threes on me, fading away like joy. You know, he used to think he was joy like Kobe. He was cold. My DJ used to hate on that nigga. And I still do.

He thought he was Kobe. Man, he hit me with all that work that day. I was like, yo, he really like that. He was, bro. I didn't think he was like that, T. Three straight times. That was probably the guy I was like, yo, all right, I didn't know he was like that.

I'm an air to fly hater, but he always averaged 19.6 points a game, no matter where he was at. I told you. He used to hit. I'm like, bro, he's really like that, bro. Who think who cook me like that? Damn. Nando DeColo. Whatever the fuck that nigga name. He cooked me one game.

He would play for the Spurs. Who? His nigga name was like Nando DeColo. I remember you talking about. He wore number 25. I'll never forget. He was wearing number 25, because I thought this nigga was trash. Boy, he was terrible.

He was going to work. What year was this? It was probably like my third, fourth, fifth year. Oh, damn. It was that late in your life? He gave you work? I just didn't respect him. Like, I was waiting for Tony Parker.

I'm like, man, why the fuck Tony's up and making it? Wow. And this nigga was killing it. Since my time. Yeah, he was going to work. Hey, I seen you with some sneaky dunks, though. What was your probably favorite dunk that you had? What was going through your mind?

I caught a lot of bodies. Because I always wonder. That's a hard one. What was going through your mind? I caught a lot of bodies. Because I always wonder, as a heart. What was running through your mind to dunk on somebody? Nah, my favorite dunk, I dunked on Ray Allen. What happened after? I seen that one, too, that Ray. Yeah, I only like that because KG was just talking so bad to me. And when I dunked on him, I'm like, bitch, I didn't see you.

Then I airballed the game winner. KG followed me to the tunnel, nigga. Don't ever fuck with the basketball gods. Like, pulling at me and shit. I'm trying to run to the back of the tunnel. I'm like, my fault, y'all. Joe's like, man, why the fuck would you shoot that? Everybody mad at me. You just hear KG.

Dumb ass nigga. Sad ass nigga. I'm like, oh, shit. He hit you in the ear with that shit. A.G. Hey, he was doing that to Eric Gorman. It was so crazy. Trash ass nigga. Rob Markman Yeah, he was doing that to me.

A.G. I forgot about that, man. Rob Markman That I took with that nigga all year. He was like, you don't want to fuck with the best of my guys. Sad as fuck, nigga. You ain't shit. Don't nobody respect you. A.G.

And then we played him in the playoffs that year, and he wouldn't say my name. He wouldn't acknowledge me. Like, you know how you go shake niggas' hand before the game? I'm like, yo, what up? You know, Rondo, cool. All these niggas cool. I went to go reach for him. That nigga just started pacing.

I'm like, ah, damn. Fuck you. So the first game, I had a really good game. And the media was like, yeah, the T guy, he was really getting in the lane, you know, penetrating. He was like, who? Who? I, he was really getting in the lane, you know, penetrating. He was like, who? Who? I don't know what you're talking about.

I was like, ah, that nigga going to do me like that? Like, I'm fucked with Ticket. Like, why you doing me like that? Who? And then when he played with Mook, he finally, when Mook played with him, he finally told me like, yeah, I fuck with your brother, he cool. I was like, that's all I ever wanted to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that nigga just was like, fuck you nigga.

That nigga was going crazy over me. That nigga barked at me in a game, bro. He got on all fours and barked. That's what we got. We jumping the ball, nigga. And he got, like, I was bringing the rock up, nigga. And it was like about to, Al Horford was about to run up and set the screen.

He just didn't follow Al down. And he just got on all, forced to start barking. I'm like, man, who is this nigga, bro? This nigga can't be real. First time I met him, he was in the dark, complete dark, like the gym. Just yelling, same thing, just yelling. And then he seen me, he's like dog.

Cause that's what he called my mom. Dog, dog, I've been waiting to talk to you. Like that. Man, you got chills. First time as a rookie. In the dark. Didn't say nothing, cause at that time it was on the news. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz. Rob Markman, 2 Chainz.

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That's crazy. Ava, man, G, we appreciate you sliding once again. Congratulations, man, on the graduation. Looking forward to you getting back on the court, man. Don't think of this rehab popping. Absolutely, man. Just whatever you do, just don't go back to the Pacers, man. We want you to thrive, man. Get away from the Pacers and get away from Minnesota, man.

Yeah, don't go to Minnesota. It's the crib, man. I can't do the crib like that, man. Can't do the crib like that? I want the best for you guys. Option always open. I keep it open. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah, man. Yeah. Side G, for sure. Oh, no. I'm something. Out the gate. Option always open. We'll see what happens, man. I'm excited to get back to it, though G for sure. Oh, no, I'm something. I'm the guy. I'm always open. We'll see what happens, man.

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