Club 520 Podcast - BEST OF 520: Jeff Teague on LeBron James NBA future, Baron Davis vs. Steve Francis, Brunson vs. Melo

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

In this week's BEST OF CLUB 520, we look back at Jeff Teague and the guys discuss LeBron James and Bryce James' potential to link up on the same team in the NBA. Plus, Teague talks about why he thinks LBJ should hang it up soon if things for the Los Angeles Lakers continue to trend downward.  Jeff and the guys also debate who was better between Baron Davis and Steve Francis, and why Jalen Brunson "has more aura" than Carmelo Anthony in New York! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. The Volume. Who y'all taking for real name problem? BD or Steve Francis? I'm taking Baron Davis. I'm taking Baron Davis too, but Steve Francis was cold. He was cold, but I'm taking BD. I'm taking BD too too, but damn, bro.

Steve Francis was like, you ain't going wrong. Choose either one. I was thinking about that when they was talking shit to each other. Yeah. I'm like, I don't think niggas really know how good. If you under 30, you might not know how good Steve Francis was. Steve Francis was cold, bro. Journey to the NBA alone is crazy. That nigga was transferring every year from school until he got to Maryland,

until he got to college. Went crazy and got to the league. Nah, yeah. That's my fault. I just went to that show. It's cold, but Baron Davis, bro. Yeah, bro. He just did it longer.

I feel like he played longer. Yeah. He was at a high level longer, I should say. Who was more explosive? Ooh. If you're going athlete-wise, no disrespect to BD, I should say. Who was more explosive? If you're going athlete-wise, no disrespect to BD, I got to go franchise.

I'm going to go with BD, though. That's a hell of a... It's close. I'm going to go with BD because that nigga towards ACL still came back crazy.

Look, man. Steve was punching on niggas, bro. That was his ticket to the league, though. Baron Davis still had everything else, too, even when he slowed down. But if you really go watch BD, he was so athletic, bro. Like, he punched.

When he was in Charlotte, that BD was crazy. Man, he was punching on niggas. And he wasn't little, either. Nah. BD was a motherfucking tank. He punched on the ticket. I mean, Steve Francis punched on niggas, too. Steve Francis' mixtape is crazy. Well, he did Detroit Hudson, so this is crazy. Oh, he's one on the ticket. I mean, Steve Francis punched on niggas too. Steve Francis' mixtape is crazy. He did Detroit Hudson so disrespectful.

One of the worst. So disrespectful, bro. I was even thinking going down to their handle. I'm like, damn, I don't even know who had the better handle because they put niggas in the mixer. I mean, it's a great battle. Yeah. I just heard them going. I mean, they boys and shit. They was just talking

shit, but I'm like, damn. That's a lot closer. That's one everybody kind of be like, I don't know. That's a great battle. Yeah. But I'm probably going to pick BD, though, to lead my team. Oh, yeah. If you're going to opt off that, then probably go BD.

But I would like to ask Katina Mobley that, because I know he's super close with Steve. But, like, who was better? Oh, yeah. He'd know for sure. Will not. Well, he'd have a better analysis than us on that shit. Yeah, I just wouldn't know. I just wouldn't throw that out there. Shit, look at that O'Rocker's team.

Him, y'all, that was nice, bro. He was a big part of that. Was y'all really like that? Oh, yeah, I was like that. Most definitely. I was thinking about that. I'm like, Y'all was cold. Y'all was like that.

He just got hurt. Yeah. Not even from my discretion because obviously I wasn't really watching Y'all that heavy, but from all the players around who played against him,

give him that much respect. I got respect. Yeah, I was like. I mean, of course, duh, he made the All-Star team.

I was just like, damn, was Y'all just like right there with Shaq? That's what I'm saying. Well, Y'all was going to make the All-Star team. I was just like, damn, was Yao just like right there with Shaq? That's what I'm saying. Well, Yao was going to make the All-Star team regardless. Yeah. His country fucked with him, bro.

Them votes was crazy. I forgot. Bro, that nigga was so tall, bro. The first time I seen him, bro, we played him. Bro, that nigga was so tall. I came to like his hip, bro. Damn. Yeah, I'm like, man, what the fuck?

And then his legs, hip, bro. Damn. Yeah, I'm like, man, what the fuck? And then his legs, pause, bro. You know, you be like, I got big legs. That nigga legs was like three of mine, bro. Like that nigga shit like a tree trunk, pause.

Like, bro, I'm like, man, what the fuck? That's why he probably weighed 300 pounds, bro. Shit was crazy. Because he could shoot like a motherfucker. Yeah, he was like slim up here, but that nigga legs was massive, bro.

You know what's crazy? If y'all would have played in today's NBA, he already had a nice sub-tribe. He would have had a burner. Yeah. He would have never had a three in today's NBA. Sort of. Injuries probably killed Yael for sure. But I was just like, damn, I wasn't trying.

I was like, who was up there with Shaq? I was trying to think of niggas that was close to Shaq. He was vertical. Like, think about it. Wimby, like, Yael. I think Wimby's shorter than Yao. Yeah. Yao was 7'6", right?

Yep. That shit crazy. What's the Wimby? 3? 7'4". Even if you look at pictures of Shaq and Yao, it's crazy. And Shaq is crazy. Yeah, 7'6 is crazy, bro.

Niggas is lifting their arms up and smacking the top of the glass, bro. You know how you, I was a rookie. You know, you excited to see everybody. I walked out. And they fucked me up because the nigga talk, you know, it's broken English, but he's like,

what's up, baby? I'm like, what? What? Nigga, I just knew you was about to say what's up. You about to say ching chow, or whatever it was. My father,

whatever they say. Ni hao. There we go. That nigga said, respect. He said, what's up? I was like, what the fuck?

Did he kill y'all? He didn't even play. Oh. He was like hurt. Fuck. I wanted to ask you. Bro, look at that picture,

bro. If you ever see him. Like, look how much bigger he is than Shaq. Yeah, that's crazy, bro.

When you make Shaq look like a little homie, bro, that shit is crazy. Yeah, Luis, roll some, roll some,

yeah, clips for us. Y'all highlights. Yeah. I was like, damn, we was talking about the bigs, talking about with Shaq, but I'm like, damn, ain't nobody really close.

I mean, Sabonis gave him a couple fits, but I think it was really a man of his own, bro. Ah, Shaq is a different, he a different breed. I was just saying, like, you gotta think how good,

like, David Robinson was bro he was still his own rim bro David Robinson don't get a lot of respect well no I'm just saying David Robinson get the respect he deserves bro

David Robinson was cold a lot of people just may not know it I know we Timmy came super yeah bro he dropped 70 in the game bro that's crazy

he did you fucking dropped 70 nigga you're cold he did David Robinson was a quality big. That nigga had bounce. Yeah, but also Shaq came in killing it at the end.

Well, I ain't gonna say the end, but some of those bigs, it was on the decline. You look at Patrick Ewing and Lyle Zamborda, they was downgrading the time period. Shaq was...

He didn't need to be a Shaq. He was just a change in the guards, for real. Because even Akeem was still nice. Akeem was that nigga. I just don't think we ever see no bigs like that again. I mean, the game has changed, but... It ain't a big man league right now.

I mean, you got Wimby. They going to be... The bigs going to be so unique now that you'll never see a Shaq in them. It's going to always be like a Wimby. Because people are just getting taller. Everybody is just getting even taller. Like the point guards are 6'5, 6'6 6'7 and they move

way different than the point guards that was 6'7 6'8 like Magic Johnson couldn't really move now you got LaMelo who's 6'7 and he out there crossing looking like he's 6 foot so you think Magic will probably be too slow?

He will be. I ain't going to say he wouldn't make the league or be fired, but he'll be like, he'll be Draymond. He will be the perfect Draymond. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? He'll be a secondary ball handler, make plays, pass. Obviously, he'll probably be a better passer and all that shit.

Yeah. So I ain't disrespecting Magic and saying, but I'm saying his skillset. Yeah, don't get weird, y'all. Yeah, he'd probably be a better passer and all that shit. So I ain't disrespecting Magic and saying, but I'm saying his skill set. Yeah, don't get weird, y'all. Yeah, he's a go. We don't all disrespect Magic. His skill set is Draymond. Like, I hired Draymond.

Got you. Because he ain't shoot the three like that. He posted up. He ran the break. He definitely didn't shoot. Nah, he ran the break, made good passes, and that shit Draymond do just on a different level. Obviously, a different level. The IQ that Magic has, he can play any type of basketball., and that shit Draymond do just on a different level. Obviously a different level.

The IQ that Magic has, he can play any type of basketball. The way he was running them breaks, bro, them dimes is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's definitely a different level. I mean, nigga started at center one game and had 40-something. Oh, no, we ain't comparing them at all. Just similar style games. To step in the NBA right now, just putting his game, how he played, without no advancements.

Obviously, if he got born now, he'd be probably way more athletic, probably play different, probably learned how to shoot and shit. Is it over for the big man? Nah. Like style? Nah. I mean, you see him. He just got MVP.

You got Yoko, just got MVP. I mean, like you said, to T's point, it's going to be slimmer, but it's going to always be in position. It's going to always need to be filled for sure. For sure. Because I just don't know how trainers and shit is teaching big kids how to hoop now. I don't know if niggas are still in the post doing post drills,

if that's a waste of their time. Or is that a good thing to have? You know what I'm saying? Well, if you watch the NCAA tournament, the bigs really won it for Florida. Yeah. They was catching, turning, scoring in the post. They was trapping them ball screens. The bigs was making

plays. You got always going to need that. You look at Cat, even like Gobert when he beat the Lakers. That was crazy. Come on, bro. 27-24 for somebody that everybody feels could do a lot more with his basketball skills. We need him mostly dominated. Yeah, but I don't want to rely on Gobert.

No. I'll give you a cap. I'll give you a cap. Shit, look at Isaiah Hardenstein. I mean, the Knicks is doing well this year, but it's a severe difference in the way that the Knicks dominated offensive boards than they did last year. Or even look at Mitchell Robinson now. He's one of the top offensive rebounders in the league.

You need that. If you really had a dominating big, like, we had Shaq against this Boston Celtics team. Shaq averaged 50. Nothing they could do. There would be nothing they could do, bro. He could set a screen. Y'all want to switch?

He going to roll. Dunk. Yeah, Shaq they could do, bro. He could set a screen. Y'all want to switch? He going to roll, dunk. Yeah, Shaq could kill JB and him. What about Elijah Juan, though? Same thing. They could post for real. They had elite feats. They was real life strong. So if Embiid was healthy and on the Knicks,

they would beat the shit out of Boston nah I ain't say that cause Embiid don't do it with Shaq and them like Shaq and them real life went to the post every single time

like you too little give me the ball like Embiid is drawing fouls alright put put Joker on the Knicks are they beating Boston Joker to

Joker yeah they be nasty what they beat everybody but Joker he not as dominant as Shaq though like when I'm telling y'all bro when we used to beating boss. Joker, yeah, they'd be nasty. What? They'd beat everybody. but Joker, he not as dominant as Shaq, though.

Like, when I'm telling y'all, bro, when we used to watch, when you go watch Shaq, bro, they used to real life throw them out.

Oh, no, I know. I'm just saying, like, they used to just back, boom, boom,

dunk, boom, boom, dunk. Like, you had to have five or six niggas to guard him. Like,

sinners. Like, you gonna get two fouls in the first two minutes. We already know. You be ready. Like, that's how Dwight Howard was, bro. Like, people. Like, you gonna get two fouls in the first two minutes. We already know. You be ready. Like, that's how Dwight Howard was, bro. Like, people don't like to get Dwight his credit. Bro, that's how

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Look at it. It's a lot of places, man. It's damn near a death of a dynasty, realistically. Look at, like, AE being a legend killer. You know what I'm saying? Step me in now, they're going to a death of a dynasty, realistically. Look at, like, A, being a legend killer. You know what I'm saying? Step in and out, they're going to probably get them up out of here. Look at Brian. We're thinking next year might be Brian last year.

More than likely. Told you, bro. Brian playing, bro, until he's 45. I don't see it, bro. I don't either. I think Brian is too Brian for that to happen. There won't be a moment where Brian averages 18. I don't see that.

I don't think that he even going to stand for no shit for that to happen. There won't be a point where Brian average 18. I don't see that. I don't think that he even going to stand for no shit like that, bro. And he kind of giving hints off like he tired of playing. Not tired, but like... I'm sick of this shit.

Yeah, like he's saying shit. Like, yo, I'm passing it off to the next generation. Like, just saying shit. He's saying the signs are there. Yeah, they there. The last time somebody

said something about what we need, they get traded. Brian five years ago was not saying that. Nah. Pre-COVID, LeBron wouldn't dare

say that shit. He wouldn't make the jokes about nothing getting traded ever. I think we got to see what Bryce going to do, man. He's redshirt next year. I don't think that

LeBron James is about to wait two more years to get his son in the league. If he do, then he's really the guy. I don't even think his son thinking about the NBA. Yeah, I don't think that's on the game plan. Respect for If he do, then he's really the guy. I don't even think his son thinking about the NBA.

Yeah, I don't think that's on the game plan. Respect for Bryce. Obviously, he's going to be solid. I don't know if that's in the... I don't think that's in the script. I think he's going to take over the family's content space. Yeah, Bronny, be lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bronny, be lit. Bryce, off the court.

Yeah, you be lit, bro. All right, y'all. All right. I'll fuck with Bryce. Bron is going to be in there waiting to see what his boy is going to do. And then he going, all right, y'all.

I'm out of the game here. I think Bryce is going to be like a cool college player. He's going to play a little bit. But I think he's going to go into the content space. He's going to be doing stuff with Bron

and running shit. Like he going to be doing stuff with Brian and. Run the empire, bro. Run the shit. Like doing other shit. Run the empire. Yes, bro. Run the empire, bro. Go to school.

Learn whatever you need to learn to run the empire. He going to get the hoop too. Fuck it. If you go to the pros, fuck it. It's lit. If not, run the empire. Like Bronny was like, yo, we get him to the league. Yeah.

Bronny got to the league. Okay. I just, I don was like, yo, we getting him to the league. Yeah. Bronny got to the league. Okay. I don't know, man. I just believe that Bryce could, you know. I like Bronny better than Bryce, but I'm like, for LeBron, what he's thinking to me, come on, man. I'm getting my dogs in the league, so. If he do, that's hard.

And I don't care. I mean, it is tight. He already did it. It's fine. I don't think, because he don't mention it like he mentioned it with Bronny. Like, he don't really talk about it. Nah, he told niggas. He was there. Remember, he said in the tweet, he said, hey, there's a couple niggas in here. Bronny

washing. It's a random Saturday night. I said, oh yeah, Bronny's feeling this shit. Which was crazy, but respect. But he ain't doing that with kids. He ain't doing that with Bronny. Like, he let him go to Arizona. He ain't staying close to home. He kind of letting him like... Bro, go ahead.

Come on, bro. Go have fun. We are a billion-dollar enterprise, bro. Bryce, go hoop, have fun, but we gonna maintain the Lexi, bro. Yeah. He gonna be the littest nigga on Earth maintaining the Lexi.

He gonna be fucking with Mav and all them and shit. Oh, yeah? Y'all calling niggas working for Nike or some shit. Bro, run it. Your daddy had... He just called niggas destiny, Mike. Press the home button, bro.

Yeah, like, this is what's happening, y'all. But we are... A lot of niggas don't have this type of arrangements to have, bro. Yeah, I made the arrangements. See, your dad is LeBron. His name is on the side of a Nike building. You're not going to work at Nike, nigga. You're going to work with Nike. You're going to is LeBron. His name is on the side of a Nike building. You're not going to work at Nike. You're going to work with Nike.

You're going to run LeBron James. Don't Marcus Jordan me. For sure. Marcus did not run a family company. He did. That shoe store was fire. Marcus, that shoe store he had was fire. It's still there. The trophy room is fire.

Fire, bro. But he's not running Team Jordan is what I'm saying to you. Bryce can run LeBron. He don't want to run the Soldiers, bro. I'm trying to hoop, bro.

I don't think he's trying to hoop like that, bro. Respect. I ain't saying he's not a hoop. You will be running Shry for Greatness, man. Yeah. We're a billion dollar organization, bro.

Lock in. You will be making an appearance at Akron. Yes, bro. You can do whatever you want to, bro. You will be going to Akronron yes bro you can do whatever you want to bro you will be going to Akron I love y'all niggas

they're funny for sure man we gonna get up out of here but yo be here and tell the people to grab some merch at man shopclub520.com

baby man see y'all on May 17th at 9 we will be going up for the love of Barbie we still figuring out

the kinks hit the DM she's supposed to be picking 10 guys so if she don't do it We will be going up. For the love of Barbie, we still figuring out the kinks. Hit the DM. She's supposed to be picking 10 guys. So if she don't do it, I'm going to pick them out the crowd. And we're going to rock like that. So it is what it is. Most definitely. Amen.

Shout out to everybody who pulled up to the pop-up at We Don't Run, man. Y'all went crazy for the t-shirt. Yeah, we was in there going crazy. You know what I'm saying? People supported. They ain't telling me. We did. Please stop asking for tickets from us. We told y'all ain't tell me? We did. Please stop asking

for tickets from us. We told y'all. Yes, hit Mike. No. Hold on. So what's the pop-up? What's that? Like, I ain't never been

to a pop-up. What's that mean? So we were selling these t-shirts. It was like barbecue and shit y'all do? No, I bought some donuts and some lungs.

You know what I'm saying? The first 25 people who pulled up and got shirts, they got tickets to the show. Yeah. Oh, damn. Where was I? We had some people

lined up this morning. It was niggas lined up when we got shirts. Yeah, we had eight people outside pulled up for the shirts. See, So it was up. Oh, damn. Where was I? We had some people lined up this morning. It was niggas lined up Yeah, we had eight people outside pulling up for the shirts. See, that's how you hate on your own. We only have extra

larges left. Everything else is left. Oh, y'all niggas is lit. Niggas lined up for y'all shirts. That's all, man. Y'all shirts is crazy. Shout out to We Don't Run.

GP and Mike. Nah, for real. It was really people out there? Yeah. It was, bro. Damn, that's tight, y'all. I'm proud of y'all boys. Hey, man,

shout out to the supporters, man. We appreciate y'all, man. Come celebrate next weekend in the city. Hold on, I ain't done. Do y'all understand how much I don't like this nigga sometimes?

He said, who else out there? Was it like food and shit? This ain't the club. Was it like barbecue and shit out there? No, bro. It was 11 o'clock in the morning.

Nigga, why ain't nobody tell me? We did. They did, bro. I come in because I had something to do. Then nobody tell me, bro. I would have went, bro. I swear. You know what?

You know what? Y'all did not tell me. What are we going to do with the Warriors, man? Man. They in such a tough spot because, like, Steph should be playing for championships or not right now, and I don't know if that's what they are. And I don't know if Steph want to leave or not.

Would you call this a successful year or would you be like – I mean, for the Warriors standards, obviously, it's not a successful year. But do you think it's a – they had a good year? I would. From where they started and where they were off our break when they had Dennis Shorter-Tranel, most definitely. Most definitely. No nah that's a definitely they still got Jimmy

nah a thousand percent bro I think they gonna shake back next year though so who you got in the Western Conference Finals you got OKC vs Wolves

or you got I got OKC ok cause that's what it is OKC vs Wolves yeah you don't think Denver will take it to seven

I don't got Denver taking it to seven I got OKC versus Wolves? Yeah. You don't think Denver will take it to seven? I don't got Denver taking it in seven. I got OKC prevailing. What you got, Mike? You know good and damn well. We know you don't give a fuck. I don't watch no basketball. I don't give a fuck.

For two years in this pod, you still ain't tapped in yet? Nah. I know all the players, the highlights, the stats and everything because I got to, but I don't give a damn.

Damn. Who you got, DJ? Okay, see? I think we're going to get Shea versus A. I think that's going to be a fire matchup. Okay, but who y'all are? That was like a great transition. Who are you taking if you're starting a team? Are you taking A.E. or Shea? A.E. Y'all know who I'm

picking, bro. Y'all know I was on picking, bro. I don't. Y'all know I was on AE training for everybody. Mike, if you would just... Obviously, this is perfect because you don't like basketball. AE has a personality. So you'll take AE to start your franchise? Yeah. But I'm not mad

at if somebody takes Shea. I told y'all, bro. He's just not rah-rah like y'all. From a money aspect or like a basketball performance aspect? Just like, you just have to start a franchise. AE. Who you talking about?

Who you talking about? I'm talking about AE. It's not even close to me. Damn. He too polarized over a person. Yeah, like Shea would be like, I love his game as a basketball player, but he'd be like 20th on my list

if I take the start of a franchise. Hell no, Jeff. If you had a list of players in front of you, I think you would see that differently. No, I wouldn't. 20 is crazy. I would take Luka Dostrich. I just seen how City fucking damn near killed somebody because he left.

You literally love him. He's loved wherever he go. So I'm taking Luka. Easy. I see how much people love Tyrese Halliburton in Indiana like I'm telling you bro it's not that he's a better player hey shout out to Reesey Cup

bro but I'm nothing bro what I'm saying is listen it's not that Tyrese is nowhere near a better player than Shaq but it's something about Tyrese that people like or hate and that's enough to keep. I love Tyrese game. Actually.

I ain't never been on the hate side. I think that, uh, I just talked about this too. I think that hate from his peers fueled his game and it was good for the Pacers. And yeah, for sure.

It's something like nobody, everybody knows Shay is nice, but nobody like you don't hear like your, but he called his game. It's nice. The peers, we all know he called, but like fans, you gotta like you don't hear, like everybody be like, he cold, this game is nice. The peers, we all know he cold. But like fans,

you gotta like OKC. You gotta be from Oklahoma to be like, yeah, that's my guy. I might be biased because I was on that train. Yeah,

but like AE, like even still, like if I had to pick a team, like LeBron would still get picked before a show. Yeah, because that's Brian. Yeah,

FKD, but remove all them old hits. James Harden, Ka Shea. Yeah, because that's Brian. Steve, FKD. But remove all them old hits. James Harden. Kawhi. No, I wouldn't pick James Harden over Shea. But I'm saying, you said 20, bro. It's not 20 players better than Shea. No way.

Like, Victor, Wimbyana. Wimby. You would take Wimby. I'm taking Wimby. Jason Tatum. No. He all right, bro. To start my team? You taking Shea?

I love Jason. I'm shitty. My nigga tore his whatever he tore. He can't get... Shout out to Sergeant Hill. Yeah, for sure. I'm shitty he can't get MVP this year. No, I'm not. Man, yeah, alright. Damn. Shea a leader, bro. Jason Tatum a leader,

but it's different. Shea working with less, bro. Yeah. Shea a leader, bro. Jason Tatum a leader, but it's different. Shea working with less, bro. Yeah, but it's just like, for real, them is regular niggas, bro. No disrespect to the NBA games.

Like everybody in the NBA can hoop, but what Shea playing with, bro? Bro, he's over, overachieving, bro. You taking Jalen Brunson

or you taking Shea? I'm taking Shea. At the start, your team. Taking Shea. If Shea had motherfucking fucking Cat and

Mike L. Bridges and OG, bro, they raw. Them niggas is better than OKC talent-wise. I'm taking Jalen Brunson

because the pressure to play in New York is so much greater than playing OKC. He got his dad bigger than New York I'm just saying

everybody not built for that I'm not saying Shay not not saying we ain't never seen him but it's different structure bro like I like people don't even

put respect in name to be like on you or nothing but nigga you grew up like Jalen Brunson it just wasn't filmed your pops was just like

motherfucking that y'all hear that noise yeah it's the TV yeah I'm just saying your pops was just like motherfucking that. Y'all hear that noise? Yeah, it's the TV. I'm just saying, your pops was just like that. So that's different, bro. That's different. What New York give Jalen Brunson, nigga? He like, nigga, my pops was way

worse than that. Just like you. That's why you were so good with different type of coaches, nigga, because your dad was motherfucking goddamn Joe Jackson, nigga. Oh, God. That's what I'm saying. I don't know what Shea lineage is.

I don't either. I mean, I seen his pops on Gilbert's show. His pops seem like he was a real nigga. Yeah, well, no, probably solid, but I'm saying it's just that when you growing up different like that, I just... Shea, to me,

what he got, I don't know if Jalen Brunson is that type of player to take them young niggas. You got Kat, Michael Bridges, and OG, bro. You got a whip. You still the leader, but damn, bro. That nigga took less money for a reason.

Yeah, but he's still the focal point. He's shooting 14 times. He's shooting 14 times in a row in the fourth times. You know, he's shooting 14. Yeah. He's shooting 14 times in a row in the fourth quarter. Like you got cat on your team.

Like, nah, nigga, watch out. Yeah. Cause he's not looking at them last year. Like, even though no,

so they came up short against us. Hey, he was dominant. He got the city back rocking. Now it's a discount shake. Cause Shayton's like you said, doing a lot, but listen,

Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks, bro. He got it way more lit than when Mello was there. Yeah. Shayton's, like you said, doing a lot, but less. Listen, Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks, bro. He did. He do not. He got it way more lit than when Melo was there. Yeah, bro. And Melo had squats. Melo had that aura, too. He did, but he...

Melo aura different. It ain't bigger than Jalen. It is. The aura is. In New York? Listen, bro. Nah, fam. Melo himself or? Listen. Nah, fam. Mello himself or New York? Mello himself, listen. Mello aura in New York

is way bigger than Jalen Brunson aura in New York right now. Oh, I don't know, bro. It is, bro. They just said... Jalen Brunson is winning for sure and that's good for the city, but if you just take them as people... Yeah, that's because... Oh, yeah, no one's bigger than Jalen Brunson is winning for sure, and that's good for the city. But if you just take them as people. Yeah, that's because.

Oh, yeah, Mello's bigger than Jalen Brunson for sure. Mello is bigger than Jalen Brunson, bro. Mello been famous since he was fucking 14. That's what I'm saying. That's what I call oil. But you said in New York. Yes, in New York. They said this is the biggest.

Mello was losing in New York, bro, and he was still the biggest nigga, bro. Still the biggest nigga. That's just New York, bro, and he was still the biggest nigga, bro. Still the biggest nigga. That's just New York. Yeah, that's the aura. But they said he's the biggest free agent signing in New York Knicks history. I'm not mad at that. That's coming from a basketball perspective. I'm talking about overall.

If Jalen Brunson walk down the street in New York right now and Mello walk down the street, they're going to be like, J.B. I swear to God. Bro, he got the Knicks lit. He do, bro. But it's a lot of niggas with him. He the biggest for the Knicks right now. I'm telling you, Mello's popularity, that aura is different, bro.

Mello is that nigga. Jalen Brunson works so fucking hard to get where he is now. Jalen Brunson is a blue collar nigga. I'm not saying Mello is just a spoon fed nigga, but it's different, bro. Mello is getting compared to LeB he is now. Jalen Brunson is a blue-collar nigga. I'm not saying Melo is just a spoon-fed nigga, but it's different, bro. Melo is getting compared to LeBron, bro. I'm not saying that. I'm saying, what Jalen Brunson been in New York?

Three years? Two years? This is, uh, yeah. He might go down as the best player, but I swear to God, if they wasn't winning... In two years, he surpassed everything Melo did. Yeah, because so far, it's just winning basketball. I'm saying, give him his same numbers and Melo's record. Melo is bigger. That's what I'm saying give him his same numbers in Melo's record.

Melo is bigger. That's what I'm saying. You can't do that. You can, though. The personality. What he did for the Knicks, that's what people dream for Melo to do. They wish Melo would have did that. And it's unfortunate because Melo got a different version of James Dillon, too.

Yeah. He got dealt a totally different head. No, no, no. And that's not James Dillon Brunson's fault. And he had to work with Phil Jackson and shit. That's not James Dillon Brunson. I fuck with James Dillon Brunson because he took that pay cut and believed in his team to get them to where they is.

Jalen Brunson understood the assignment to bring New York to where they is. Melo was like, shit, I'm just trying to get paid in a big market. It's two different swags, bro. But I'm saying, like, and I got the utmost respect for Melo. I think he won the coldest players ever. The thing is, Jalen Brunson did that shit when New York was, like, not popping. Like, Melo went to New York, and they was actually good. Did they get what Amari did?

Yeah, they was actually hooping. Like, Amari really got the Knicks rolling. Yeah, bro, that hurt and shit. And the shit was cool. But then Melo came, and he, like, lit a fire. It was like, oh, this shit popping. Like, New was cool. But then Melo came and he lit a fire. It was like, oh, this shit popping. New York lit. They got Melo.

They got Amari. But it was never lit like this, bro. They betrayed him and traded his two best role players. I'm just telling y'all, Melo was lit because they were still losing. And that nigga was still scoring 50 points on all two points. Yeah, but it ain't look like this. That was NBC. We watched, nigga.

We argued at your house, bro. Melo played against goddamn D-Rose, bro. It's different, bro. It ain't like this, though. It ain't like this. You think Jalen Brunson is just as big as the superstars Carmelo and Anthony? In New York? Yes, right now? Yes. As in their damn, bro.

The only nigga that was bigger than New York than Jalen Brunson is right now was Jeremy Lin. And I swear nobody was bigger than Jeremy Lin. Yeah, because he got a cheat code. He got all the other people with him. Nigga, that shit wasn't even close. Yeah, because he's a foreigner, bro. Yeah, but I'm just saying that shit wasn't close.

How we talking about that? I mean, he got a cheat code. Yeah, he had a cheat code. But Jalen Brunson- He like the blueprint. Jalen Brunson got that same type of- Jeremy Lin effect? Fuck no. No, no, I'm talking about

like, he getting that same... Jeremy Lin was off the charts. Like, he was the most famous nigga in the NBA. Yeah, that Lin Sanity... Yeah, like, he made a movie off that shit. Yeah, let me say that. It ain't gonna get no... No, nigga, he was bigger than Kobe for them two weeks, bro. Yeah.

Like, nigga was the biggest person in the world. We went to play, the nigga was... had to be the world we went to play the nigga it was had to be 100 200 cameras under the room when he was shooting for warm-ups bro i've never seen nothing like this shit i'm like this shit is crazy yeah he killed he got a hell of a game but yeah mellow hat came back so it was like i mean he probably had like 18 and like seven or 18 and 10 whatever it was he had a good game But Melo had came back So Yeah you know what I'm talking about

Yeah you know I mean he kinda was hated A little bit But Yeah I ain't mad at that I ain't mad at that I just stand with

I stand with Melo bro Nah I love Melo too Cause Jalen Brunson I just don't think Jalen Brunson has that If Jalen Brunson was like AE

It'd be different Jalen Brunson is just a killer Oh Jalen Brunson had an attitude like AE, it'd be different. Jalen Brunson is just a killer. Oh, if Jalen Brunson had an attitude like AE? Yeah, it'd be different, bro. Bro, he'd be nigga. He'd be Michael Jordan. If Jalen Brunson came out of the game and called somebody sad as fuck, bro, them New York fans would eat that shit up.

But, bro. He's just a silent killer. He kill and he do little shit that make you be like. So if he goes to the finals, he the biggest since Pat Ewing. Bro, he bigger than Pat. He take the Kn since Pat Ewing. Bro, he bigger than Pat. He take the Knicks to the finals right now. He bigger than Pat? He bigger.

For this generation, probably. He bigger than Pat Ewing. The OGs ain't going to go for that shit. But for this generation, they going to go. The OGs going to rock. The OGs going to rock. The OGs going to be like, y'all niggas got Pat fucked up. They going to crash out.

But nigga, OGs going to rock with Pat. But nigga, Allen Houston was killing, bro. Like, Pat was powerful. Allen Houston was a good player. Larry Johnson. That's the real bucket. Mike don't know nothing about Allen. Allen Houston had one of the best.

Allen Houston could walk right past Mike right now. Yeah, but, like, Jalen Brunson, bro. Like, every, bro. I love Jalen Brunson. I love Melo to death, but Melo wasn't doing what Jalen Brunson was doing in the fourth quarter, bro. No, bro. Clutch buckets? Melo was like that team.

He is. I think it's because niggas is winning and Jalen Brunson is- That matters. Is earning his contract for sure, for sure. And if Melo played in this era, Melo would kill. Melo would be probably one of the top three players. At this point in the pod is when I would be googling

and searching up stats when Melo played in New York. Melo would be killing this league. His stats are better than Jalen Brunson's. Melo played in a different era where scoring is more prevalent now, so he would be killing. But I can't compare because he don't play. You know what I mean?

Nah, you right. Like, that's me. I'd be like them. I probably would have been a better player if I played now than when I played because you could do shit that I grew up doing. But shout out to Mello, though. And you ain't disrespecting him or nothing. Nah, it's not about respect.

Don't clip me. Something be weird. Yeah, you know how people get weird on YouTube and shit. But I'm saying, though, like, Jalen Brunson really got a better team, bro. Is it really better? Yes, bro. No, it's not. Because Chauncey and them was cool.

Yeah, bro. Chauncey and them was cool, bro. But this team was. J.R. Smith is better than. Who? Everybody else on their team. Besides Cat. And Amari Stoudemire.

It matters, bro. Amari Stoudemire was just as good. Amari barely played with Rondo Teague it's different with Melo with Melo yeah he barely played he was hurt

but he got dumbed down a little bit with Melo there I'm saying you got J.R. Smith you got Iman Shumpert Shumpert was just as good as Josh Hurt the white boy

that shot threes Steve Novak Steve Novak Steve Novak uh come on bro fuck no Melo didn't even have a big

Teague Tyson Chandler was on their team what come on bro Steve Novak. Come on, bro. Fuck no. Melo didn't even have a big team. Tyson Chandler was on their team. Come on, bro. And I love TC. TC is the reason why Dallas won the championship. Is Tyson Chandler better than Mitchell Robinson? Bro, all day. Is that what we talking about?

All day. Is that what we talking about? They said that Cat is better than Tyson Chandler. Bro, they had Amari. They had Amari. Yeah, bro, but Amari didn't play. Come on, keep it real, bro. Markel Bridges and OG Anobi, bro, is a better duo than fucking Shumpert and J.R. Smith. On some real shit.

Yeah, I mean, J.R. is just good. And I fuck with Iman and J.R. J.R. Smith was six years at that time. But to have two wings like that is mean, J.R. is just good. And I fuck with Iman and J.R. Smith. I just wish. But to have two wings like that, it's crazy, bro. Niggas got seven-foot wingspan, bro, and guard up any position. But Mello, one of them wings. It's really Mello and J.R. Smith against OG. Jalen Brunson gets to relax, bro.

Yeah. Because he can take some nights off. Who's the point guard for the Knicks at that time? The first game against the Celtics, OG looked like the best player on the floor with JB and everybody out there. Yeah, who was the point guard for the Knicks? Chauncey Billups played PG.

Raymond Feld was a PG. He got traded for Mella. One of my favorite point guards. He got traded for Mella. Did he? I don't even know who led that. That's what I'm saying. We don't even know who led that team.

Only point guard I remember playing with. They did have OJK. Come on, man. Niggas got better when they left New York. Maybe it was something in New York. Because J.K. was on that Maverick squad, too. With Tyson Chandler. Only point guard I remember really playing with Melo, bro,

is legit Chauncey Billows. On YouTube, I know y'all check everything. Check that. They had older guards in New York. That's a fact. I mean, they had an older team. You don't remember them matchups? They had an older team. I mean, Melo had an older team. Bro, in New York. That's a fact. I mean, they had an older... You don't remember them matchups? They had an older team.

I mean, Melo had an older team. Yes, bro. That's different. That's what I'm saying. Jalen Brunson is literally rocking with niggas that he's around his age group. Like, come on, man. Mikel Bridges is really one of the best fucking wings in the NBA. Top 10 wing in the NBA.

I'm not saying their team wasn't better. But what he doing with that team? Because, nigga, they don't get the ball like that. I mean, get out the mud. Nigga, they get the ball like that nigga when it's out of the way to move nigga they get the ball you don't give it to your killer what you say about Joe Joe said y'all do y'all thing

these first three quarters the fourth quarter and then give him the peel but I'm saying you doing that he earned that nigga I took a hundred million dollar cut give me the fuck a ball but listen

you doing that you think Mike is taking a hundred million dollar cut for us? I would. I'm not taking that. But listen, he doing that in the fourth quarter. He said he about to be

in the Eastern Conference Finals. It's like you can't, he lit. Is Jalen Brunson better than Tyler? I mean, Tyler, Tyrese Halliburton. Yes. He got to beat him though. And they aboutson better than Tyler? I mean, Tyler. Tyrese Halliburton. Yes. He got a beat, though. And they about to meet up.

He got a beat, though. But, I mean, they did get their ass beat tonight, so Celtics might be on to something, but... Jalen Brunson, bro. He got, bro, his people in New York, bro, telling him, bro, y'all don't got to do nothing else, bro. You did enough. We love you.

Like, bro, they want to retire his jersey already, bro. To pivot this conversation, I want to ask y'all this question. Of the remaining people left, we got a lot of people who could be first-time champions. Between Halliburton, JB, AE, and Shea, I mean, we ain't gonna count out Denver, but just amongst those, who would

the championship mean the most to? Jalen Bronson. Okay. Because of Knicks? New York. If he want to chip in New York, bro. He's forever good no matter what. He's forever good now, but if he want to chip

in New York, bro, he... He going to mean the most. Bro, he going... They might put a statue up, bro. They got to, though. He'd be the most polarizing figure ever just because of the market.

If... Okay, see, if Shea wins NBA championship, it wouldn't look nowhere near as Jalen Brunson. Nobody give a fuck about Oklahoma City, bro. What about A? That's a...

A would be lit, but nobody give a fuck. Yeah, it's the same. It's like Giannis winning a championship. No, and that's a good point, too, but it's like, if Shea wins it, oh, my mama, he gonna get treated like Kawhi Leonard in Toronto. Yeah.

Real shit. Giannis and the world. New York? If Pat Ewing would have won in New York, bro, Pat Ewing would have never put on the Orlando Magic jersey. Yeah, bro.

Real shit. So is everybody with DJ counting the Pacers out? I'm not counting them out. Oh, damn. I'm not. I think they can win, but I'm just saying

if you win a ring in New York, you like, you a guy, bro. If Tyrese Halliburton win, I'm a mama, that's a Kawhi Leonard championship. Oh, if we win a ring in New York, you like, you a guy, bro. If Tyrese Halliburton win, I'm a mama, that's a Kawhi Leonard championship. Oh, if we win a championship, they're going to say

we don't give a fuck. They're going to say Denver's down. The three other teams in this final four that we think of, Denver don't win, Minnesota, OKC,

Indiana, small market teams, nobody give a fuck. Nobody going to give a fuck. That's how the NBA works. Yeah, so New York, if they beat Boston, They the only team. I ain't gonna lie. It's lit in Indiana

if Tyrese bring a ship for us. Because we from there. If Tyrese Halliburton puts a ship in Gainesbridge, bro. You have to give him. He is the greatest pacer of all time. Nobody's gonna give a fuck. Nobody's gonna give a shit. If the pacer in OKC makes it to the finals, it's gonna be the least watched finals ever. Oh, yeah. You think

the draft line was rigged now? Boy, they're going to make sure. Like, that shit going to be... You remember when... Who was that? The Knicks and the Spurs played or something? Did nobody watch the finals? Yeah.

It's going to be worse than that. I agree. That shit ain't nobody going to watch the finals, bro. I agree. But I think it's good for... That's why the NBA need New York. It'll be good for our city

because niggas don't remember when the Colts won the Super Bowl. It was quiet. But Peyton Manning was so polarized. That was a murder, though. It was, but it was really quiet, y'all. It was probably definitely mid. It was probably mid.

Me and my niggas drove downtown. It probably was weak as fuck. It was. But only AE. It was quiet. AE can say the finals. Either Jalen. A.E. can say the finals. Either Jalen Brunson or A.E. can say the finals. But if it's OKC and Indiana, bro, that shit is not.

Ain't no telling what A.E. gonna do if he win. But A.E. playing in the finals, it's gonna be, because he gonna start saying shit. You know why we here. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if it's Indiana and OKC, filthy. Yeah, because A.E. winning shit means everybody, I'm better than all y'all niggas. Now what's here. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if it's Indiana and OKC, filthy. Yeah, because I ain't winning shipments to everybody. I'm better

than all y'all niggas. Now what's up? Yeah. Nigga told Obama, nigga. Yeah. Yeah, why they not? Yeah, like, he talking like he like that. I am like that. They know that. You tell the president that, bro, you... And then looked at him like he offended

me. Like, nigga, what the fuck is you talking about? I'm rolling. Y'all don't want to ball for that. Because Obama out of pocket. Hey, what's the nigga that played for the Philadelphia Eagles? I think his name was Knox Cox. Pause. He was like a defensive tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles

back in the day. What the fuck you having now? I don't know. I think his name was like something Cox. Pause. But name was like something Cox, but pause. But he was like, that's just a wild ass name. COX.

Yeah, that one. But he was like good, but when Bush was the president, he came walking by. He was like, I heard you a Cowboys fan. He was like, who told you that?

How do you know that? He was like, we about to beat they ass. Don't worry about it. We gonna beat they ass too. What the fuck you talking about? I was like, damn. Fletcher Cox, isn't that? Shout out to beat they ass. Don't worry about it. We're going to beat they ass too. What the fuck you talking about? I was like, damn.

Pletcher Cox, isn't that? Shout out to Pletcher Cox. One of the best. He was like, you're going to beat they ass. I was like, yeah. I like them kind of niggas. Nah, for sure, for sure. He's like, I don't give a fuck about you walking across this field. But I'm saying, A-win, the NBA in trouble.

Oh, yeah. Y'all thought sending the video was bad. It is. Oh, it's A-win. And with that being said. My nigga going to go Crazy next year And I can't wait Nah for sure

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Nah, I'll be honest, bro. I don't think this podcast will work if you weren't a part of it. That's true. That's a fact. All right, bro. DJ Shurn. Nah, I'll give honest, bro. I don't think this podcast will work if you weren't a part of it. That's true. That's a fact. All right, man. DJ Shurn.

Nah, bro, I give you your flowers all the time, bro. Especially from a business aspect, the things we get done, bro. A lot of stuff would not get done because of how persistent you are.

We're having conversations with people who handle business. I always give you your flowers and that. That's why he book our Ubers and all that shit. That's why when we go out to eat, no matter who's with us,

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