Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Anthony Morrow on being TEAMMATES w Jeff Teague, WILD Steph Curry story Kevin Durant LEAVING Thunder

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 71 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Anthony Morrow where he tells stories about becoming teammates with Jeff Teague on the Atla...nta Hawks. Morrow tells a CRAZY story about Steph Curry dropping 45 points as a 16 year old in a Pro-Am in Charlotte, as well as what it was like when Kevin Durant LEFT the Oklahoma City Thunder after blowing a 3-1 lead to Steph and the Golden State Warriors in the Western Conference Finals. Morrow has countless NBA stories that you won’t want to miss!Timeline:2:22 - Episode Start5:50 - Jeff meeting A-Mo9:30 - Hooping in Charlotte11:15 - Crazy Steph Curry story13:00 - Why he didn't go to UNC17:00 - Craziest ACC matchups19:00 - Deron Washington's crazy dunk vs. GA Tech23:45 - Most points scored EVER in Summer League26:00 - Money in today's game vs. 2010s29:00 - Teammates with Jeff in Atlanta30:30 - Starting a fight at Hawks practice36:00 - Don Nelson39:00 - Traded from Warriors to Nets40:15 - Playing in OKC43:00 - Losing 3-1 lead to Warriors46:00 - When KD left the Thunder47:15 - Russ was relentless49:00 - Story of playing the Warriors51:45 - Taking Corey Maggette's Benz55:00 - Getting a Challenger58:00 - Night club stories01:05:00 - Hornets next moves01:07:00 - Jaylen Brown gets traded to Philly live on the show01:09:00 - Kawhi return to Toronto + Spurs NBA Finals run01:12:00 - Teague crying signing with T'Wolves01:15:30 - Finding out about Chicago trade in the cold tub01:17:40 - Jeff buying fake Red OctobersAll lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah. You all had the church, man. That was a legendary moment in time, man. I wish they'd bring them back for sure. Come on, man. What are they doing? Yeah, no, Matt is there. Yeah, Mo, you're not getting no shirt, bro.
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Starting point is 00:04:22 But I ain't mad at this shit. I guess I ain't a lot of being here. I know you did hoop in the league, but everything is going on right now. If they win next year with no prediction, They just did it all wrong, but I don't want to say. Thank you. Be here and left the chat. Shout to Hard Rock, Batman, our family for sure.
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Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, well, it's good, man. Shout to my 100 degrees today. Yeah. So I don't know why I put these sweats on, but respect. You know what I mean? You know I'm baby powder down. So we got all black on. Yeah, but I, I body powder all the way down.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's crazy. That's a bad, nigger, that shit, like. What's up? Bad digger problem. Well, Mike Gim's having me smack to court. Shows be here, man. To my right, my dog, young nacho, young Teg. How are you what?
Starting point is 00:05:23 chilling, bro. Well, not really. But, yeah. It's about to be a goodie, bro. Yes, sir. Man, we got some funny stories, bro. in this guy. Come on, man.
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Starting point is 00:06:15 Gary Young from Charlotte. He was an agent, working finance, working. Got you all that. All right, man, first is first. We got to talk about it, man. How did y'all link up, man? I know Amo from hooping, though.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah. I know it from Georgia Tech. Yeah. Living in Atlanta, playing at the church. I know all that. But then obviously we became teammates when he came to the Hawks. So I knew Amo before that, though. You know, killing with the Warriors, going on the runs.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Going crazy. George's Tech games. Yeah. It was crazy. He gave us buckets my freshman year. I remember that? Yeah. You know, bro, you, my guy, our point guard, Matt Cawes.
Starting point is 00:06:57 He was a little white dude. Yeah, yeah. Bro, I don't know what y'all had going on, bro. But y'all couldn't stand each other, but you just killing him. I'm like, bro, stop talking to him. I'm talking shit to him, bro. He's not going to stop. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know, because I wanted to go to Purdue first, and I wanted to go to Georgia Tech, but y'all had Mo Miller. Yeah, Moe, Memphis, yeah, yeah, yeah. They picked Mo Miller. Well, he committed before I did. I got a chance to go on a visit. I see why I wanted you. He always brought that up.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. He wanted you. Because he thought, like, it was like, E. Twan Moore and them. Yeah. He was like, now, Jeff is the one. I was about to come out of Lids. He didn't go to Wake Forest.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I was supposed to go to business. He was going to be in conference the whole time. God damn. Yeah, but he was going to be. That was what your senior year? He might have been my junior or senior one of them. It was a senior year. Yeah, it was, yeah, 04 or, I mean, 0-7.
Starting point is 00:07:53 0-8, 0-7, some of around there. He gave us a buck. Okay, my boy, not show you. They had 19 on 12 shots, respect. Yeah. Hey, Mo, you got to it, boy. Oh, yeah, he killed him. I only shot eight times.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's nine times. Yeah, that's a kid I'm not. You know what I'm saying? Why, why you think that was? Man, with Coach you used to sub, bro. He used to sub like five at a time. Like, yeah, dude. Hey, shout out the coach.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Coach you with, man. But the way they, you don't know, like, if you miss two shots, you're coming out. Damn. Unless you're Jared Jack. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're like, hey, shout out.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Just coming out. their fucking game. So, but he was, I mean, he just subbed like that. Yeah. Six for nine, 23 is crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:37 That's a game. 23 or nine shots. You should have 30, bro. He's supposed to have 30. Nine shots. You're at 40 something, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He was shot nine times. That's crazy. Well, y'all got some real, yeah, I see what y'all got going. I see why y'all so successful. I got to, we got to turn up.
Starting point is 00:08:56 As you said, we all sweating. We ain't made it too far yet. I know. Yeah, he said, I'm going to mark you all this for $97, though. And you know,
Starting point is 00:09:04 he had a conversation about people, mounting the 32-inch TV, somebody, one of our fans, like, hey, don't judge me.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I'm like, we're going to start to go fund me, bro. We're going to get you a real TV, man, get you a real TV, man. All right there's high as hell, man, we got some drinks,
Starting point is 00:09:17 man. Barbie at work early today? Shout out to Barbies. Okay. Girl, Barbie. Matching the field with the drinks today. What we got?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Got on green. What's up? What's up? Oh, I do not know what that means. Please enlighten us. You got the cocktails. How are you doing? Nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:09:32 All right. So I just did it as like the peeler spreads. Oh, okay. I can't. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Water. You're gonna say, which tequila is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay. First thing I asked for some water, I got to help. Boy, it's hot like this in Charlotte right now. It might be hotter here though, bro. I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, nap on some Vegas shit right now. for sure.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It'll never be this week, bro. We'll be smooth. We'll be back. Yeah, it'll rain a couple times. It'll calm down. Speaking to Charlotte, man, growing up there, hoping what was the scene out like there?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Obviously, you won't Mr. basketball. You was getting to it, but it's a lot of people who came from the area that was real nice, man. What do you remember about them times? Man, just the competition, man. And then, like, just like anywhere else
Starting point is 00:10:16 where they talk about how we were outside. Yeah. We was at the rec. We was at the YMCA. We were at the, you know, in the park. Like, you know, y'all know what I'm talking about. So, like, it was more of that. And then it was, you know, it was guys, man.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You know, we had some underdog, like, Steph, you know what I'm saying, Seth. Yeah. The O.Gs, Jeff McGinnis, Antoine Jameson. Like, it was just a lot of people that should. I mean, it is more than that. But, like, it was a lot, like, the bar was so high. So, like, everybody was trying to compete to get to the Jeff McGinnis level, the tushet level.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And now, Steph. And I guess, like me. and, you know, these other, KC. Rivers, you know what? Yeah, yeah. Clemson. Clemson. Yeah, yeah. So it was like a lot of that, man, Donnell Mack.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Like, it was a lot. That's my guy. Mac. Yeah, yeah, Max, shout to Matt. That's my boy. Yeah, so, like, we, it was just a lot, man. I know I'm leaving some people out, but the bar was set so high that, you know, when you go to the Dowel, YMCA downtown, you might play against anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Lee, North Carolina, UNC, Duke, anywhere, overseas. Yeah. So, like, it was just more active hooping. And, you know, everybody was trying to prove themselves so the competition level was higher. But it was great. I mean, it's still great. We got some young guys coming up.
Starting point is 00:11:39 My little cousin, Karie Coleman. So it's still there. It's just not. It's so much social media to get weird. You know what I'm saying? Now, you say a young, young Wardell. What was that like, man? Seeing him cook early on before the world knew how good he was.
Starting point is 00:11:54 he always could shoot like that. He just didn't have a confidence of like, he had a, we had the pro-am. I know y'all got like a pro-am here. Yeah, yeah. So like he was playing, we had the Grady Cold Center. First half, my two cousins
Starting point is 00:12:11 that played at West Meck, they were like bully guards. So they picking them up, packed Jim Bill Curry in there. And they were just bullying them, picking him up full court. He was turning it over, airballed it, like,
Starting point is 00:12:26 So in the second half, I don't know what happened. I swear to God, man. If you're from Shaw, they know this real. Yeah. He had like 45 in the second half. Damn. Yeah. And it was like, I remember talking because Dale was there, O.G.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And we was just talking when I was leaving. And he told stuff, he was like, listen, I don't know what happened to you in the second half. But play like that everywhere, anytime. I don't care to turn it over, miss shot. Yeah. Play like that. Never turned his back. How was it then?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Stuff prior that time. probably about 16. Somewhere around now. 17. Yeah. Somewhere around now. You said Donnell Mac, bro,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I swear to God, that was one of the best lefties I ever seen in my life, bro. Yeah. That was my name. The Mac, he'll see this too. That's my brother.
Starting point is 00:13:11 We'd be talking. We said a five star. Yeah, Matt. I swear to get that Robert Moore. Oh, my mama, bro. I can't make that up. And I ain't saying, bro, random. But I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:13:21 that's a random-ass name for me to just be saying. Yeah, yeah. That's not. No, that's real, though. Mac, my God. Yeah, Mac, yeah, it was the Florida Mississippi. Nah, he could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:32 He was wrong, though. He was one of them phenoms coming out of high school in Charlotte. Oh, for real. Yeah, he liked that. It was crazy. He was going to hoop, though. How did you make a help a high school career? How did you go to Georgia Tech, man?
Starting point is 00:13:44 How did you make that decision? Yeah, how do you get out of Carolina with all those schools? Get this shit all the time, dog. How you ain't go to wait for? Yeah. Almost, it's crazy, bro, because the only school I ever wanted to go to was Chapel Hill. That's the only, like, my high school coach who, Jerry Faulkner,
Starting point is 00:13:59 he's like my second dad, bro. Yeah. So I was like, coach, like, you know when it started turning up? Yeah. Sophomore year. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you start getting offers, like, little offers in then. So Carolina started coming, when Matt Daughters there, I was like, coach living,
Starting point is 00:14:17 he's like, we got to go through it the right way in the process. I said, coach, listen, the process is cool. But if Carolina offered me, fuck all that. I'm going. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they were about to. Matt Dardy got fired.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Roe Williams came in. J.R. Smith was at, committed to Kansas, and he followed Roy to Carolina, and they had them on scholarship. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they was like, I said, look, first of all,
Starting point is 00:14:43 he's not going to college. We've been playing these things. Like, he's not going to college. We've been knowing he's going to the league. Yeah. But he was like, well, it can't rescind it because something might happen. And he, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:54 I was like, okay, I respect me. But you can walk on. I was like, I ain't walking on shit. I'm playing the ACC. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I was about to go to NC State and then... Oh, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That's the worst of that. That's my man. He was kind of reason I was going to go. Oh, God. Yeah. They were nasty. They went nasty. No, my coach was like, nah, man, you got to go on all your visits.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So, like, my last visit was Georgia Tech. Mm-hmm. On the way home, me and mom driving back to Charlotte. He's on a three-hour drive. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to Georgia Tech, you know. What made you want to go to Georgia Tech, though? Like, what's the time?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Because they had one, they won, I mean, they almost won the chip the year before. I would get to play against, like, potentially five pros every day. And they leave. And they, now I look over my shoulder coming out of the game. It was Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. And they took me to magic. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I knew. I knew. I know. I know. They did. I would have committed right on. It was my birthday. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It was my birthday. It was like everything lined up perfectly. You know what I'm saying? They did a big-ass birthday party. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then like, you know, Jared, you know, Jared, that's like big bro, man. Like, he always going.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. So he, you know, he was giving me the game. And then I saw like, you know, at that time in Atlanta, he was bigger than he's that played for the hawks. Oh, God. You know what I mean? Him Will Bynum, thrill all them guys. Yashmiel.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So, like, I just, you know, I just, everything just was perfect. My mom was cool with it. So you committed in magic. The next month, about eight hours later. Signed him the whole hour with a chicken wing. Boll up to be here. Out of the gate, man.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Wings was crazy. And I had a church. Back then, that. I call, I text my cousin right there, hey, man. I'm going to school here, bro. Ooh, that was a long-ass text message on that next deal, boy. It was, man. I couldn't chirp him because it was loud in there.
Starting point is 00:17:04 If you didn't go to tech, where was you going to go, though? At your visit, what other school you like the most. At the time, probably, I was thinking probably Tennessee. Okay. Tennessee, because how they got. Yeah. But I'm glad I ain't do that. No, for sure.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Tennessee, that was still Bruce? Yeah, no, it was Yeah, it was buzzed Yeah. Yeah, crazy. What was one of your craziest matchups in college, man? You should remember. Back and forth that you had with somebody.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, ACC was real name. Yeah, it was murderous row. That in the Big East was tough. Shit, yeah. It's a few, it's a couple. Like matchup, okay, probably like. Just that one-on-one shit. Where my fucker had you fucked up?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Like, nah, I'm about to brush your ass tonight. You don't think I've seen that time. I'm a stay, bro. Oh, man, it's a dude name, um, Jeff, you might remember they went to Miami named, uh, Guillermo, Giacarro Diaz. Gierramo D. Bro, he was, I'm talking about, because, yes, bro, if y'all don't look him up back there, bro, I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:18:16 he was relentless, like on some Iverson type shit. Like, he's not going to stop. You know what I'm saying? And they played the two. So I had to guard him. But he's like 5, 11, 6 foot. He's not that tall, but he was strong as hell, fast, quick, could shoot.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. And he had dunk on it. You know what I mean? Yeah. He had like blonde hair at one point. Yeah, he was stripping. He was on that. He's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I can't wait for him to leave. Who was on that Miami team back then? Yeah. That was before I got there, but I used to watch because I was going to ACD. Yeah. But then Jack McLean. Jack. Jack was tough too
Starting point is 00:18:55 but Jack played more of the point at that time Yeah Yeah that's Guillermo Right there, that's a lot of six, yeah He didn't do it for sure 16 in college He was shooting 40% For CCCB
Starting point is 00:19:08 Other people like Rashar McCants Yeah that was that USC championship And everybody Jay Redick Number one Like bro everybody Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:22 Even like Virginia Zabian Dau dead Yeah, that is. Bro, they had every... Jamon... Sing what you mean? Oh, Sean? That's...
Starting point is 00:19:32 What's that? Yeah. What's that? What's that? What's that? Oh, D. Wach. They around watching. He lives in Charlotte down.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That's my guy. Hey, that boy can jump. Hey, he touched top of the backboard, bro, bro. He dunked on my boy, man. He dumped on my boy. He's shit crazy. Degu. Gany Law, that's my brother.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I love it, man. I was going to... You know what I'm just... That's how you always start off a story. No, man. Oh, I remember that. Luis. You remember that?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, it was on ESPN for so long, bro. It's still, they still be, like, Instagram now. Like, you come up in the memories. Bro, I was on the break with him. So I'm on the right side. I see him because I'm like, Gine ain't going to try to go get that. He'll rebound or all this shit.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Bro, when I saw, because I was like, damn, man, if he jump, if he, because he jumped like, he jumped like he july off of springboards and shit. And I was like, man, I pray to God you foul him because if you don't foul him, it's going to get real superstar type shit looking. And he did it.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And man, he came down. And I looked at Ghani, I was like, I didn't say this. It's like, hey, it's going to be all right, man. He was so watching. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Coach Hill, Washington.
Starting point is 00:20:51 What was the name? Doran, Washington. Duron Washington. DeR-O-N, Washington. Went to Virginia Tech. While he's looking at that, though, we always asked him the question, hey, my, what's the words,
Starting point is 00:21:00 getting crossed or getting dunked on? No, you got to cross me, bro. Because I'm cool with that. Like, Lowe's on fall on the cross. But if you dunk on me, this shit was 20 years ago. That's one of the best dunk in college history, though. Yeah, that shit was crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Hey, shout out to Ghani, you doing great work. I love you, bro. No, yeah. We just talk of whoops. Oh, man. I don't want to be a part of it. It's it. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor,
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Starting point is 00:23:54 From the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is Michael Rappaport, and my podcast, the I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show. And if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as. as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury,
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Starting point is 00:25:00 Bill, why is my eye twitching? Does this mean I'm in perimenopause? Maybe I have adult ADHD. I need to look this up. Where's my phone? Juliana, your phone is hot to the touch. I think it's asking you for a break. You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Maybe I should just ask chat GPT. Or maybe we can ask an actual human. Yes, like a couple sex therapist. Whoa, that escalated quickly, but okay. Because I have questions. We have questions. I bet everyone has questions. Like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? We do that. How about this one? Is bribing your kids bad parenting or just negotiating? Oh, and I still do need
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Starting point is 00:26:03 It was magical for all of us. We made it, we made it. Yeah, I'm like, we? You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you? I'm MC Jen, and this is laugh but not least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times, like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Talking about as a kid, do you remember that we met? way before that. Let me think. Did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was you? That was me.
Starting point is 00:26:32 The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping. And then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate. Let let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this. And they watch me walk into there.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen, and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Dang. Who was the best player you sing? Oh, it's definitely no. Here you go. Nah, no.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah, he was doing stuff like that. Damn. Gani Lua. Yeah, don't worry. Louis about it. G. G. I, man, he gonna be like, you.
Starting point is 00:27:17 He's spelled his name. That's my little bro, bro. Now, I wanted to ask you, bro, who was the best player that you had seen? Like, I got to get in college. College. During that time, he was as he took. Like, I noticed that going to the league for show. Yeah, play Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Mm-hmm. I was like that. Raymond, well, Chris Paul in college. Chris Paul killed you. Nah, we had, they had a different kind of defense for him. I only played against from one year. Oh, okay. So, like, they was, like, boxing them in, like,
Starting point is 00:27:56 Like, it wasn't really like a press, but they was buying. He know, if he see this, he know what I'm talking about. Yeah. So they put, like, Ishmael up and, like, another big. And then they had Jared back there. So, like, it was, like, a zone. Oh, that shit. So he couldn't really make plays and do the shit.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But, yeah, Chris was good as hell. But, um, Francisco, uh, Francisco Garcia. Louisville, my guy. Yeah, he was. He was a top of name. They got asked him. Larry, what's name? Larry.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, my boy. Yeah. They were good as shit, man. Francisco Garcia is a Marshmanish legend. Oh, yeah. For a shit, bro. Yeah, bring it back, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That thing, on that game was a 99, bro. Rashar was good like that. JJ Reddick. Yeah. Shot after Robert's boy. He was down again to it. Oh, shit, yeah. God damn.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Hey, look why I'm mad, though. Right there? I don't say, why'd he do this? I was like, shit. Right now. Oh. That, boy. He punched the shit out of that.
Starting point is 00:28:56 No, I'm like, hey, bring it in, y'all. Let's talk about the latest plate. Like, look, look, I try to huddle up. Shit. That nays was like Brian Grant. That was crazy. Hey, what's crazy? The jersey is a long way.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Mm. Yeah, man. That was my only thing with Jordan Tech, boy. Them Russell athletic jerseys, I was nothing. He went to Georgia Tech, right? Who? Yeah, he did. Russell.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah. That's why, because, you know, when you go to the Final Four, you automatically get the Jordan on. Yeah. So I'm like, when I get there, I'm like, hey, ain't y'all supposed to be like? And Jaredner was like, yeah, man. The owner of Russell went to Georgia Tech. I'm like, I don't give them.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I don't care about this shit, man. But I think they're going underarmor now, though. Yeah, that definitely. I'm still cool with that. I still go up there and we still got a lot of, I'm about to do some work with them. That's the hell is cool for sure, man. Obviously, you know what I'm saying? Moving on undrafted.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You made history. going crazy in the Summer League. What was that feeling like? You know what I'm saying? Oz against you get to a deal and you get your chance to really go hoop and you showed out that first game, man. What was that feeling like?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Man, I felt like I was playing with house money because I was going to go to Ukraine. I didn't get, I wouldn't think about going to the league like that. Damn. Signed to go to Ukraine for $80,000. So I had to go to all three summer leagues. So back then it was Orlando. Before you move on, we got to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:30:19 The real Summer League was in that side gym in the Atlanta Magic facility. Yeah. And it was real hoops that was in there. That was shit going on in there, boy. Boys were in there playing for their life in that little ass gym. It was real buckets out there. I didn't even interrupt.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. Come on, man. And it was real, bro. And, yeah, so, like, my first year, I had to go to Orlando, then Vegas, then Utah. So my daughter at the time, my daughter's mother was pregnant with my daughter at the time. Yeah. So she tripping. Hormones.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I don't know what the fuck. fuck was going on, but it was crazy. Yeah. I had to go to Orlando. Mm-hmm. After the draft, I fell asleep during the draft day. I'm like, man, I'm not going to get drag. And I got, it was all ACC and shit.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, yeah. But, like, I was like, I know how the politics kind of going to go. Agent Cesar,000 going to 80,000. I said, 80,000. We ain't never had that much. I'm giving me that. I'm on. At the game.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So it was like, no, you got to still go on. They got a spot. I'm like, get over it. I'm like, man, it's like 14 niggas. I'm not going to get in. He was like, you still got to go. I had a try out for that team. Damn, Godly.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, bro. So I get there. Shout out to my bro. Dayquan Cook. He ended up getting his shoulder. Y'all know DeKuan. Yeah. He ended up getting his shoulder separated.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So he was out, but he was like a feature guy. So they had to play me. Like the last two games I average like 18 or something. So then he was like, hey, do Ukraine? They're talking about $100,000 now. They're trying to give you an incentive. to knock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So, when he was like, now you gotta go to, you know where I age wallet, you know, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:02 so we go to, I go to Vegas, same thing, it's like 17 people on the rocks. I'm like, why I'm going here, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Then I went up to 120 now. You know what I'm saying? I'm cool with that. Yeah. I don't care where how cold it is in your thing. Yeah. I'm talking my daughter
Starting point is 00:32:20 and my baby mom, we're going. So he's like, now you got to go. Same thing. They didn't play the first few games. Last couple games, like 16, 20, 22. All right, they didn't went up to 140.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Hey, I'm out. Bro, we're going back to Atlanta, ain't it? We going? Hell, no, you got to go to Utah. What the fuck is in Utah, bro? He was like, no, it's another summary. You got to go. So then, like, he was like,
Starting point is 00:32:43 nah, but look, you're going to be the feature guy. So they started me, and I got MVP. Yeah. And that's how I got the Manila folder for the second round kind of contract. Yeah. Once I got my foot in that, kick that bitch open. You don't know for that? Yeah, he was crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Well, he got a torch. Then I got back to Atlanta and got cussed out, man. All right. Shit, we made it. What's on the 120, more? I'm trying to tell you, though. You said, we need that far. Are you crazy, bro?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Because just the thing now, and I know we're kind of going back a little bit, but you was Mr. Basketball, bro. Your NIO bag now? wouldn't have been filthy. Like, you wouldn't have been working on the grade at 10th. Bro, we talked about it all the time, like, what would you think?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Like, what would you think, like, what was your bad be? I wouldn't have had a lot going into high school. Yeah. I mean, going into college. But after that first year? Because he was still over the first year. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I was there. Yeah, I would have been going crazy. You had got, like, you got, like, you got, I would have never, I would have to the NBA. No, you just stayed in Puerto Rico. You don't have been. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Hey, like, oh, boy, for the clippers, he said, thank y'all for drafting me. I would be going back to Aubrey University. That's cool that I would have been on, bro. Damn, yeah, real talk, bro. Everything. Yeah. Hey, man. I've been at four different schools.
Starting point is 00:34:04 These kids don't even know. Like, look at what you're saying, bro. One-20, you're shitty. But the difference with him, he would have been a first-round pick now. Yeah, all for sure. Yeah, like, it would have been, because the way shooting? Yeah. I was going to ask you that.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Do you feel like you was a little bit too ahead of your time? Yeah, I always take it such a premium now. I always tell my mom, you had me two. early. Yeah. Could have wait about 10 years. Oh, God. I mean, I mean, I don't have NBA,
Starting point is 00:34:33 former NBA coaches tell me the same. It's the truth. Yeah, yeah. I look at Duncan Robinson and all them dudes. Yeah. All these dudes getting paid. All that money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And you, he shot that shit even more effort. Yeah. Yeah, man. And he's the, yeah. Yeah. He had to hit a with the, yeah. I ain't even know that. See, I'm telling people I shot better from two days.
Starting point is 00:34:53 in the three. They don't believe me. 41 for the career. Crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I remember I was like, you met Steve Kerr for like highest three-point percentage in the league.
Starting point is 00:35:03 At one point, yeah. He thought he was like, I thought you was going to just state it. I was like, hell now, man. Those politics hit different. Yeah. They started getting traded around and getting out the rotation.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Now you won for three and you ain't getting back in the game for two weeks. That's crazy. He began kind of weird. We was just talking about that with the free agency stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:22 TIG always said that. He was like, once they feel like he was, feel like you were a minimal guy or the organization guy. That's just how they treat. You don't matter how good you play. Yeah. I saw y'all talking about that, man.
Starting point is 00:35:29 It's hard to get out of that. They put you at minimum. It's hard to get out of that shit. Yeah. But I can still feel like, and you're working like, you're still effective, like you worked two, three, four years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah. It's crazy. I ain't gonna lie. I've seen, obviously, I've seen you play in Golden State. But when you got to my team, I ain't know how competitive you were when you got to the Hawks. Like, this nigga is one of the most competitive dudes.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I've ever been around, bro. Your journey, me. Yeah. But, you know, like, he did a jerk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, man. Nah, but, you know, like, he compete about, I'm competitive. He compared about everything.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Like, we just shooting. He gets competitive. I'll shoot you. But he gets a different, like, you know, I'm like, yeah, nigga. He's like, oh. And everything is like, yeah, he turned, bro. Like, he makes a shot. He got in one.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Like, practice. He was just super competitive. And like I was telling the story on the pile one time He got Petro and Mike Scott going, bro It's all on hill, man I'm going to be bringing that up, bro Because no, it was not It was all of you, bro
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, man No, it was it, bro. Who was he? Okay, look, because I've been meeting it. I've been looking for it. Somebody sent me that clip. I was going to put it up, but I was like, now I'm a way to I go on this shit.
Starting point is 00:36:48 To talk to it about this shit. All right, look, bro. Mike, so we, you know, we ain't in the rotation. You know how I go. We plan three on three. Yeah. Half court. Mike that morning before was already on some other.
Starting point is 00:37:03 My is teed up. I don't know if it was playing time. I don't know what he was on, bro. Yeah. But I was like, she, he on my team. I got Mike. I got my young fellas. Get the going.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Petro, chilling. Mike going at him. All I was doing was telling Mike. Hey, man, go at his ass, bro. I'm like, I'm like, you pick a row, throw it back the mic. Let him go one on. Like, I'm doing that kind of shit. You're asking it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 No, I'm just saying. He on one a day. He tried to get back in the lineup. He tried to get back in the rotation. So I see what you're saying. But it wasn't like how you stand it, it was like how you're saying it. No, I was saying.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I was crying. No, when I stayed and starting it out of control, I stopped doing it. Yeah, you did. I thought we were whooping their ass. So I'm like, I'm school. You know what I'm saying? But Mike was tan and he was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And then something happened where somebody got fouled. And everything you said that happened after. See it. Hey, he said, what's so? Petro said something like, he started saying something. Like, don't you talk to me. Hey, it's over with, man. We got to go in there and get some.
Starting point is 00:38:21 some breakfast shit. Get ready for practice, man. They're like, yo, Amo, what happened? I'm like, we was hooping. Shit got crazy. So he was on the side I was. I didn't even know he was watching. Yeah, I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He was watching the starting point. I didn't even know he was in the gym. I was in the gym watching. They was in the main arena. Yeah, we was in the main. We went in the back gym. He was in the main joint. I was watching.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Like, pooh, pooh, boop, boop. Like cut the fuck out. I was like, d'em. The d'nigig twiged out on him. I was like, whoa, quick. Well, what making fun of the year is when Mike's guy got in the Supertray, he said facts. Oh, yeah, he did. He said facts.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah, sure out. Yeah, shout to J.P. Man, and Mike, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that shit happened real fast, though, man. That shit was quick. I didn't do that, though. You did.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That was all you. No, it wasn't. Okay, we was hooping. I didn't want that to happen, though. I know you didn't want that to happen. You're so competitive. You get people to start going. Because you had me, D. Steve one day,
Starting point is 00:39:24 shooting a shooting game arguing. You know, D. Steve shots from my guy, he was one of the coolest teammates I had. But you get him turked up? He's crazy. Yeah, he'll spas out on you. John Stevens? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And D. Steve is a live wild boy. One of them guys. I know that. They was doing the dirt shooting drill. You know, Amo could shoot like a motherfucker. But D. Steve could shoot. Yeah, he could shoot. I shouldn't have been in the drill with these niggies.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But I'm in the drill talking shit. He's like, nigga with these teams can't even shoot something something. I'm like, man, catch that. I'm just talking shit. Amo like,
Starting point is 00:39:58 yeah, T, yeah, T. Talk that shit. Steve started getting mad. You know what I mean? Y'all ass is sad. Something, something, something. You can't even,
Starting point is 00:40:06 we're going on the screen on you. I'm like. I'm trying to talk back. I know, you're trying to talk back. But he's getting mad. Amo Tavie, he's like, it's out. He's not,
Starting point is 00:40:18 he's not wrong. He don't care. What's from the house? I was that shit alone. I was like, I ain't know that he'll be gassing, bro. I just wanted to see my guys be at their best, man, on the court, bro. I just want to see everybody be at their best. What year was that y'all played together?
Starting point is 00:40:39 It's like 2012-12, 13, yeah. He might be my first year starting. I could wait to get out of Atlanta, bro. Yeah. I didn't even want to be there. He used to say that every day. I hated this shit, man. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I was talking to T one day We was in the June probably I'm like I gotta go man It's weird here Yeah I was like it's weird bro I can't do it
Starting point is 00:41:00 And then it's like my second home Yeah So it's like everybody in Atlanta From Charlotte Or something like I'm like I need to get far away From this shit man
Starting point is 00:41:10 He's always done He'm not gonna say his name He's on some bullshit Like piece of shit I didn't fuck Danny Oh yeah Oh yeah Oh y'all on that
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah You know, he hated me. Yeah. Yeah, we did talk me. Yeah, he hated me for no. I'm not even playing. What fuck is you mad at me for? Because I went to Georgia, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:32 them Duke dudes, kind of different with the ACC. He probably didn't like you because you went to wait. That might be true. But he hates me. I don't know, bro. But nobody from North Carolina was in Atlanta. That's all I'm saying. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Damn. Who's the only one? But yeah, but he wasn't there. He traded more. Trade it more. He traded more. Me here. That's crazy, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It's crazy. I just, I don't like... Yeah, you ain't get no fair shaking out. Man, I was begging my... I was on the phone with my brother. Hey, bro, please for the love of God, get me out of here, man. I don't care where I go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:04 End up going to Dallas. Great organization. Rick Carlisle over there, Mark Cuban. I shout out to them. And I wanted to stay, of course. You know, they had another plan for some shit that I figured it out after that, but... I just want to talk about...
Starting point is 00:42:16 You used to tell me about Don Nelson. Yeah. Like, he used to be like, he'll let you hoop. Yes. That's what stacking them talking about. Yeah, but I was in Atlanta, and so he would tell me stories about how he was hooping with Monte, and how he used to speak about him
Starting point is 00:42:31 and how he just gave you the opportunity and what it was like playing a Golden State. Man, I mean, they gave me my chance, man. I mean, no, that whole, after I signed was like, I was like on pens and needles every day because, like, back then you stayed at the Marriott that was connected to the top, was the practice facility.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Okay. Because you need clearance, of course, all that shit. So I was just in the gym all night, all day, bro. Yeah. And then we get, like, fast forward, get to the, you know, when you got the team, the team scrimmage in front of the fans and shit. Yeah. So it's like the next day you find out if you make it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Make the team? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm at the scores table. Me and Stack, we, like, you know, it's the young guys with the old guys. So we had the score table niling down. I'm like, hey, Statt, don't let them cut me, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Please don't let him cut me, man. Working hard. He looked at me. He was like, nigga, you been made the team. Like, you're going to be good tomorrow? They're going to cut him. Well, what's the name? Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I'm like, bro, why you ain't tell me? He was like, look, my fucking blood pressure. Like, I'm going to strip it. He was like, nah, you're good. Go back in, just hoop. So the next day, shout to my boy, Rob Curry's winning in Notre Dame. They end up cutting him. He still had a good career.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah. I'm a close siege or something. But that's how that shit was, man. And Don Nelson was like, look, if you don't shoot the ball when you open, I'm taking you out the game. Damn. That's the best feature. For me, I'm like, oh, no, it's own.
Starting point is 00:44:03 FGA's up for sure. Yeah. So he let me, you know, so that's why I had so much confidence. Like, I had a, you know, any, not just basketball. He's a great, like, mentor type guy. He's real, real players coach. You're going to say, Eric person to talk to the player for him, BD, Stack, always speak very, very, very highly,
Starting point is 00:44:21 even Matt as well, speak very, very highly in him as well. Yeah, real players, man. And that real players, like a real personable guy, like real life. You don't mean, you don't get something different. You know, it's the same on both sides. What was that transition like going from Goldside to the Jersey? The shit was crazy, bro. I did not want to leave Golden State.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I bet. I had never been that far away from the East Coast, from Charlotte or Atlanta. Like, so when I had to, I mean, we was in, I was like, shit, free agency. I had to get to it, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got a market, like New York. It was like New York, Jersey, Houston. And like, I forgot, it was like two more teams. And it was like, well, Jersey just offers you the three-year joint.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And I called people, I called my age. I said, can we please get them to match this shit, man. I do not want to go to New Jersey. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I remember, like, he was like, no, they ain't going to do it. So I ended up going to Jersey for, like, the press conference. And I went from Cali and Vegas to, like, New Jersey. And it didn't look.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I was like, I ain't even had no clothes. Like, I had to go to a men's warehouse and shit, bro, which is cool. I ain't tripping on, but I had to go. and then like it was like yeah I was like damn damn what you had to go to man's warehouse for because I didn't have no like you needed the suit yeah oh okay for the first conference
Starting point is 00:45:56 because it happened so bad yeah it happened first round pick it ain't like that yeah you undrafted you know yeah so like well it took me like and I was like all right so and shout out to Avery Johnson
Starting point is 00:46:10 hey my guys man so like you know it was cool though Because by the time I got acclimated with being on the East Coast up north, you know, I used to listen to Brefts Club every morning. I had to get used to all that shit. Yeah. And I didn't want to leave there after a while. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I was like, you. That's the best of my shoes out there. Yeah. OKC. Yeah. You know what I'm something? What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.
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Starting point is 00:48:47 You know what? Maybe I should just ask chat GPT. Or maybe we can ask an actual human. Yes, like a couple sex therapist. Whoa, that escalated quickly, but okay. Because I have questions. We have questions. And I bet everyone has questions. Like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms?
Starting point is 00:49:04 We do that. How about this one? Is bribing your kids bad parenting or just negotiating? Oh, and I still do need to know why was my poop green that one time? Hypothetically, right? Okay, well, instead of letting you know, the internet guests, we've got actual people answering these exact questions.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And laughing with us has got to be better than spending three hours down a rabbit hole online. Listen to Bill and Juliana. The podcast. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You said to me, yo, you know, keep at it. Because you let me rap for you. It was magical for all of us.
Starting point is 00:49:41 We made it. We made it. Yeah. I'm like, we? You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you? I'm MC Jen and this is laugh but not least I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times
Starting point is 00:49:56 like the co-founder of Rough Riders Darren D. Dean Talking about as a kid Do you remember that we met even way before that? Let me think. Did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was you? That was me. The day we found out that you
Starting point is 00:50:09 and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping. And then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate. Let let him in. The gate slowly went. Come, come, come, come, come.
Starting point is 00:50:22 They all, they're watching this. And they watch me walk into there. And that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen, and laugh but not least, with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. How'd you like being an OKC? Now, that's like a, now that's a tough place. No shades and none people in Oklahoma. We've been there.
Starting point is 00:50:45 We have. And I'm from here. I like, here. It's different. And I'm like us. Oh, what ain't like here? No, that's. No, no disrespect.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I just drove in here, boy, I look a lot. I like it. Oh, hey, man, you're going to lie, bro. It's a, it's a family town. Yeah, like that. Yeah, like that. Yeah. I'm going to choose that because I'm from here, but on God, we ain't smart.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Oh, we got a football team. That's a through you. That's true. That's true. They tell you. They got a championship. You know, you go somewhere in this too. That's true
Starting point is 00:51:17 They got the best player of the world They do have one of the best player And the niggis is still not starting Well the games be silly We can't I just feel like we was there for a stint He played in the NBA
Starting point is 00:51:27 So he was there chilling But me and this thing Bro, we was there for a stint, bro Really We got a small We went to a goddamn Yeah, that's how I'm gonna Yeah, that's how a big
Starting point is 00:51:37 We got the ring And it was still like Tray y'all showed us The ultimate love Yeah You know what I mean But we was not We could not
Starting point is 00:51:44 I went to a club that night. It was like, no, no. In Oklahoma? Yeah. Nah. It's not. Bro, I had to, bro, it's crazy. Because, like, and I was cool because at that time, I had, like, kids.
Starting point is 00:51:56 So it was like, I was more, and ain't shit to do. So it's like, I'm in the gym. Locked in. All the time. Locked in. Got my, my son was born. Like, I was just on that type time. At that point in my career.
Starting point is 00:52:08 So it was cool. I love it. And we were winning. You know, we had Kev, Russ, Thurge, Perk. Yeah. Yeah, we was good. Yeah. Yeah, we broke out street.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah. I was going crazy. Yeah, I had to. Because I don't know if I'm a standing line of them, so I got to go crazy now. For sure, that was a hell of a team. Yeah, we were pretty good, man. What was in practice is like, man,
Starting point is 00:52:30 with so many talented players in there, especially everybody in the Striderthorite. I miss that more. I miss that kind of stuff more than just, like, when people ask, like, I know they ask you, like, do you miss playing in the league? Like, it ain't just the games, like, And the competitiveness is it's the camaraderie, man.
Starting point is 00:52:46 The locker room, the guys on the plane playing cards and, you know, restaurants and, you know, team dinners and shit like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. We come to the room, man. Or we go to the hookah spot. Like, whatever we're doing. Like, that kind of stuff. But, yeah, that's what I would say, especially about Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like, them practices used to get crazy, bro. Like, Serge. Like, Serge was so competitive, bro. And Russ, we already know. Russ was able to hurt. You know what I'm saying? Like, it used to get real, bro. That's why we was like,
Starting point is 00:53:23 we went to the Western Conference Finals that year, that, you know, Golden State. They beat us, they beat us all through preseason and they beat us four times in the regular season, and we still knew he was better than them. We never lost confidence. Yeah. Took them seven games to get us, but.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Y'all was up, though? It was up three-one. I know. So y'all was 12. I ain't going to lie, bro. Because Clay had the 11-3 game. Yeah. And I told him before the series, I don't know if they took me serious.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I say, look, man, stuff going to do what Steph going to do. He got the ball in his hands all the time. He's going to come off 90 fucking screens. It's going to go up. Like, I say, but we can't let Clay go crazy. Yeah. They're like, what you mean? What you mean?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Like, these sticks and shoot from up here. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Man, he got hot in that first half. I said I told y'all, man. What game was that? Game six. Game six.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That's why he got the name Game Six Clay from that. Legendary performance. You said, you watched that shit. Yeah, man. After that. I told them. They're going to cheat into it. I told him.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I said, look, bro, don't let Clay get hot. You know what I'm saying? Do whatever it takes. Fowl them. That was, y'all was going to win the chip, too. Because we knew. It all, everybody knew. we didn't win that game six in Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:54:45 We got to go black to Oakland Yeah, it's gonna be a zooing I gassed them up Game one A game two Game one and game two That's that series I was like
Starting point is 00:54:57 I looked up Most of the seats They had the yellow tiles Like the gold stage Whatever I said man they ain't even in their seats And we're about a tip ball They ain't taking that series
Starting point is 00:55:07 I think that changed some people Like Russ shit like that He's gonna turn into something else. Yeah. But it was the truth. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Like, K.L. Maybe like, man, whatever. Russ going to be like, nah, they really don't respect us. Like, shit. You know what I'm saying? And I took that first of the maniac. Yeah. You know what's the real thing.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And then, you know, we turned it into that, but it fell short, man. Damn. Ron, this is what they told me. Bron was like, now I heard him said. He was like, even though they won 73 games, we were glad to see them versus y'all. We did not want to play against y'all. You know, we had two All the Famers.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah. For sure. It was like, we didn't want to see y'all because we knew they was going to be kind of worn out. We didn't see y'all. We took them seven games. Like, no, we could get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Igudalini even talk about that. He was like, yeah, I know we won. He's up there. Okay, C's team was the best team in the league. So it was good. We was cold, bro. Damn, that's real battles for sure. The aftermath for that, did you see that coming?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Well, I can't believe Yeah, hell no She was on July 4th I never forget, I'm leaving my daddy out Headed to the crib I text them I was like Bro
Starting point is 00:56:24 I had to pray about it I'm like, hey shit got crazy I'm like, I don't want to cusses I was like, bro Listen You're my brother, bro I was like
Starting point is 00:56:38 You made your decision how you're supposed to make it. You're a grown man. I just want you to be successful. You take me, I like, appreciate it, bro. Put the phone down. I'm like, fuck this. Like, for real, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Nah, but he's going to see, he's going to say something. You know, me and I love that. I love him, man. I'm brother for life. But in that moment, I was like, nah, I had to text Russ. I texted Russ and shit.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Russ was like, you know, Russ, man. He was like, I'm good, bro. I'm good. I was like, that's just something like, too. I see you in training camp. He's going back in the gym, bro. He said something like that. I was like, no, I already know it. I'm not even calling him.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Maniac next season. Yeah, he went crazy. Yeah. He went crazy next season. Yeah. And I, uh, bro. As I knew he was going to do that. man you know me he different bro yeah now him in his prime was like it was like playing with him in his prime was like bro that's you you get to watching why you on the court yeah because he's doing
Starting point is 00:57:57 so much stuff man i'm like how do you have energy for all that shit yeah 15 rebounds and shit yeah what's about how he nine stop bro yeah like d rose is like that to me yeah but i don't know if it was like how Russ with the relentlessness. You know what I'm saying? But you saw that. Y'all saw that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 D. Rose, you get a chance to, like, rest. Like, he wasn't going for, offensive rebound. Yeah, he was like that. You know, like, he had let somebody else shoot that motherfucker. Yeah. Russ will shoot that bitch 40 times if you're looking. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:32 No character. And I wish you would say something about it. And he'll go get the rebound. For sure. They wouldn't let nobody say nothing about that. He's probably like that's a ass nigga to follow his shot in the NBA. Oh, that, bro. Yeah, he was on the game.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Sure, bro. A PG getting 20 rebounds is insane, bro. He was doing that shit often. You never say, hey, bro, swing the pill, bro. I know you. Well, you want me out of that? You want me out of the line of him? He's trying to get in with him.
Starting point is 00:59:01 You know what I'm doing? Hey, boy, shit, I'm going to do. He's all. I know. I used to be like, one time we played the Warriors in Golden State. And whenever he sees stuff, it's like he turning a smother shit. We're on ESPN. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. Keep in mind, I'm averaging like 18 off the bench right now. Shoot like 65% from three. I'm in a rhythm. I'm in a groove. Man, we go to Golden State. Bro, I don't even take a three. Damn.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I don't even take a three. He was like 0 for 10 from 3. So, like, he did call me. This is why he's still my brother this day. He called me. We had film the next day. Scott Brooks, shout to him as a coach.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He called him out like, hey, man, he showed every time I was open. That's why I was like, hey, man, I can't believe he doing this shit right now. He showed every time I was open, that's all the film was. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:05 That's a great feeling. Yeah, yeah. All right, man. You know what I'm like? I'm like, you know? I ain't asked much. What a minute level of gossip? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:17 So, like, funny-ass, what that are you, you know? I think about three shots. So I'm thinking like, hell, yeah, and I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You know, when you feel good, you know, you know, Joe, like, when you feel good in, like, a part of the season or something,
Starting point is 01:00:35 man, bro called me. He was like, hey, man, I was wrong. I should have been looking for you more, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I, you know, and that made me, like, respect. bro more. At least he acknowledged the shit. I'm like, bro, I'm sure. You never said nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:50 He's put like 40 clips. I'm going to butt at. Like, hey, that's what I'm saying in the pocket, nigga. Look, I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to see it, right? I'm like, it's a little bit of two. And those things are good, too. I did.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I see, yeah, I said, well, this month, we's going to watch some film this morning. We got to talk about this. This one, Kev was hurt. Yeah. I traded. Well, I don't know. I'm whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:13 All right, he signed. I don't know. Yeah. He was like, first of all, Amor didn't even take a three. Started off with it. I was like, okay. I started sitting up. People got to take accountability.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Who are we doing? I'm just in for the mid-level. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, but, yeah, man. No, it was a great experience, man. All the guys, man. I love playing that, man.
Starting point is 01:01:42 That was probably my best, my NBA for sure my best basketball experience to be able to win and, you know, be exposure like show them and be, you know, in the rotation and show that I still could do what I needed to do. Who's your best vet? Yeah, that's tough, bro. I want to piss nobody off.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's a couple. Stack. Stephen Jackson's out to our guy. Yeah. Stack took me under his wing early. um dirk in Dallas for half a year
Starting point is 01:02:19 Jamal Crawford for show that crawled over yeah had a lot of this Steve shit guy man damn some tricks some different tricks of the guy
Starting point is 01:02:28 no I just used to I used to he like his mentality I was young I was like I want to be able to have the confidence to score like that you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:02:40 yeah um you play with him Yep, Jay. He'll talk to you all day, too. Oh, yeah. And he's funny, bro. Different, weird, kind of funny. He told me some tickling you and shit.
Starting point is 01:02:53 He ain't called me goofy. Yeah, man. Tripping, like, come on, bro. He's funny. He's great. He was great. Corey McGettie. Corey McGettie.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Strong guy. Let me get his bins. When I had no car. I got my rookie year for the whole summer. Oh, damn, really? I said, I got to get one of these one day. Now, that's hard. I did.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I said, look. Yeah, he was like, when you're, hey, when you're bringing that back? I'm in Charlotte. With the whip. He don't even know. I was going crazy. I said, no, all right, no, I'm thinking it back.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I took it back. Well, like, hey, man, where do you get this from? I need one of these. The dealership. You didn't get his, I ain't no shit about it. He just got you the kings and said, here. No, he broke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Man, we was working out one day and go to State. You know, he finished working out and shit. He was like, yo, you walk, because I was walking around in Oakland. And they, somebody said something that, yo, man, dude will be walking around with the Golden State gear on.
Starting point is 01:03:57 We know who the need he is. I was stricken. Hey, Mike, the Oakland we went to and you got to leave your car a lot because they're going to break in anyway. He said, Mike, I was walking around. There's a warm up after the,
Starting point is 01:04:10 But I was young, bro. I'm fresh out of Charlotte. Like, you know what I mean? So I wasn't thinking about it. I was just like, so I'm going to get something to eat. Or I'm going up to the store to buy some shooting. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah. So Corey were like, hey, after we worked out one day, he was like, hey, man, you just walking around and stuff? Went no Uber. I was like, yeah? Yeah, I'm right here downtown Oakland. You know what I mean? He was like, man, come to the crib.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I was like, all right. He in the Lamborghini. First time I was in the Lamborghini. Yeah. I was like, this shit crazy. You get to the crib, go in and meet family and all that. Say hello. He threw me some keys.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm like, what's this? I come outside. White Bids, 550s. I was like, oh. Hey, man, I don't know if I need to take this. You know what I'm saying? He was like, no, I'm good, man. Yeah, at that time, he had like five, six cars.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. They all outside. All the heart, cool, man. You know, I call you when I get back Down Town, tell you. Show that fit, put the music on? It's like, nah. That's $5.50.
Starting point is 01:05:22 That's the first bins I got was a $5.50 after that. I was going to ask you, you know what I said? Obviously, after you got situated, would you switch your money on that purchase? No, like, my first bins was a, no, like, I had got like an S-5, a S-65 binned. But before that, I just got a, I had the first, like, the Challenger joint. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I always got your challenge the story. It's funny as shit. I started off. I think it's out about. Now, hold on, which word did you have? I had the stock joint. My nigger. 5.7.
Starting point is 01:06:00 No, we did go up. We went up to the demon now. I didn't know. The demon won in my car. You know, I'm just You tell it I understand That's what I was
Starting point is 01:06:12 We started with The stock Started with the stock Bro He started on me bad They can step it on the gas pedal And shit Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah He's like working their engine Oh god Yeah I was working Yeah And he was probably Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:27 And when the child Just came out Bro I was like damn Tia Tia I seen that Tia video
Starting point is 01:06:31 What on What's hey Yeah So So, yeah, you wasn't even in college yet when that video came out. No, I was, when it came out, I was like 2006, 2007. No, paper trail. That was 2008.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Oh, eight on nine. 08 on nine. Oh, eight on nine. I was going to say, it was my year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:51 What was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was my rookie year. The old rookie year, so my second year in college. Yeah. My last year. So when I went to the league, I got drafted.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I bought that one. No, we watched it. I seen the video on YouTube and I saw that car. I said, I'm getting that one day. It was on some real, I said I got to have that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Anything happened to me? I forgot. That's a public. Young LA. Yeah. They had one of their two. I said, I'm getting a challenge.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I got the black one. I needed that, bro. Yeah, I got the black one. Pepsi Blue. I had the black. I love that car, man. That was 20. That's, damn.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I bought that in 2009. It's crazy. Shout to the Mopar game, man. Yeah, man. That's crazy. But now, what you said? You asked me, oh, the purchase, yeah, no. What else you buy outside of court?
Starting point is 01:07:40 When you got that deal from Jersey, what you get? That one that gets comfortable. Yeah. Oh, man, dumb-ass jewelry that I ain't need. Man, sure did, but I just didn't need that shit, for real. If I'm thinking back, like, now, I'm 40, yeah. It was cooled in. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:08:01 That's like shoe money Yeah Shue deal money Like you know what I mean Yeah I'm not sure I mean I mean
Starting point is 01:08:10 Like the real The main purchase Then for real Was My like Crip Yeah Some land
Starting point is 01:08:19 You know what I mean Like You bought it in Charlotte Or in Jersey Charlotte Oh okay Right off He said land
Starting point is 01:08:26 I see the boss Yeah No That's like The biggest I've made A great purchase Yeah
Starting point is 01:08:31 Great like Cag You know I mean, because if you guys, they're like, you know, they'll be like, you don't spend no money on you. I'm like, bro, it ain't worth none of that, bro. Not a lot of shit ain't worth that.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Like, you know. I think you was like that in Atlanta. You know? Yeah. I'd be like, we be talking about money, smooth and new. They were a little different. Even though they had way different experience. Yeah, they should.
Starting point is 01:08:56 They lived a little different. They had Adidas money. Yeah. Like, Blue wasn't even really spending NBA money. Yeah, you know what? But to us, being him at the time, I'm like, hey, what you get from Meditas? Right. Damn.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah, you ain't even got to play in the league right now. You take a couple years off if you want. That's why I always appreciate it. Like, the real, like, on the real shit, I tell people this. And kids, my AAU program, parents, or anything, I tell them, like, my first three, four years in the league, I was living with my pops. Now, I had a binge outside, but I was looking at my pop. But he was like, why? Until you could buy and purchase and own some shit,
Starting point is 01:09:39 don't get them your money to just rent all this time when you got to rent while you're playing in the city. And it made sense at the time, me and pops, he was on the shit. We was on strip club, we're going out. Like, he was on that, not now, but back then. And so it was cool. And, you know, that was probably the best piece of advice
Starting point is 01:09:58 he could have given me, like, own your shit, I don't care what you got outside, a car or whatever you're doing. Jury, I don't care. But on that, because you're not going to care about this car or that jury in like five or six years. You got some hell little discipline, boy, to live with your folks for four years. It was just him. It wasn't him at my mom. I couldn't live with my mama.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Oh, me either. Charlie Mama. I love her. He would have a player hater. What? Yeah. I didn't hang nothing in my house. Three months.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Oh, yeah. I bought a house so fast. Three months. Yeah, no, I came out of the news. They gassed so much. Oh, they got just there for a cup of coffee, boy. Yeah, I was there for three months. Now, that shit got, it got real this.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, I was like, I came home at like three one time. My mama, they took over my bed. It was my old house. They took over my front room. You know where it was. Yeah. She came out to do it was like, you are all right? Like, you're all right?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Like, it's 3.30. I know you got practice in the morning? I said, oh, yeah. No, I saw. I don't hear their. Yeah. I called a realtor. I said, yeah, we're going to be looking for a house tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah, it's saying that. For sure, bro. But that's interesting to hear you say that. J.R. Smith was just talking about that. He was like, I was in Cleveland with five cars. Like, I don't need none of this shit. Like, why did I spend my money on this? But now you got the kids now?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Shit, they ain't out of way. They're getting in high school. All the challenges and stuff we're talking about that we look forward to. They ain't having that in prom. Yeah. Yeah. My little cousin is at Virginia Tech now. Yeah, NAL deal.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Jalen Curry. Shout to Little Cuzz. Shout to Cus. And left-handed, point guard, all that. Play for my AAU team. Anthony Marley. Shout out to them because I know they're going to say why you ain't say nothing. Shouts of the squad.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But just seeing how he move on, like, social media. Yeah. I'm like, man, this is like I didn't feel like how you feel until like my third year in the league. Oh, God. Bro, and them 16. I'm like, God damn. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah, right. They got a different level of security because they can physically touch it early on. That's like the most, like, crazy, like, interesting. Like, it's crazy to see them like that young. But the guidance, I feel like is a little better. Yeah, for sure. The knowledge is better. I don't know what I would have did with.
Starting point is 01:12:21 We've been burned. Yeah, we fucked. See how you got to talk about 80K. They got to gave you an M, more, an 18. I'm saying, but we like... You bought another magic. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. We'll give you our takes, our debates, and probably a few disagreements. We'll talk to athletes, celebrate big moments and get into what's happening on and off the field, sport, track, and beyond. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports.
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Starting point is 01:14:22 Listen to I Am Rap Report on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Bill, why is my eye twitching? mean I'm in perimenopause? Maybe I have adult ADHD. I need to look this up. Where's my phone? Juliana, your phone is hot to the touch. I think it's asking you for a break. You know what? Maybe I should just ask chat GPT. Or maybe we can ask an actual human. Yes, like a couple sex therapist. Whoa, that escalated quickly, but okay. Because I have questions. We have questions. And I bet everyone has questions. Like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? We do that. How about this one? Is bribing your kids bad parenting or just
Starting point is 01:15:06 negotiating. Oh, and I still do need to know why was my poop green that one time? Hypothetically, right? Okay, well, instead of letting the internet guess, we've got actual people answering these exact questions. And laughing with us has got to be better than spending three hours down a rabbit hole online. Listen to Bill and Juliana. The podcast. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You said to me, yo, you know, keep at it, because you let me rap for you. It was magical for all of us. They were, ah, we made it, we made it. Yeah, I'm like, we? You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you?
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm MC Jen, and this is laugh but not least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. Like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean. Talking about as a kid, do you remember that we met even way before that? Let me think, did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew is at Hit Factory.
Starting point is 01:16:08 The mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there, and that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen, and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Nobody really tell you what to do with your money. I did say like that.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Yes. I did definitely would a dick. You know I would have a strip club with a barbershop brain brain hair in that bitch. He had a scooter going to get a
Starting point is 01:16:51 Oh, 10,000 women. That's a great idea. Barbershop inside the strip club with the with the brain. With a team with a book bag. We had a one.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Don't worry. I'll be back. Yeah. Scooter in a seat. I did. I had a little. We know. Free of the club.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Tripping. Tripping. Tripping. And we was popping back then, bro. Oh, I'll have been. Oh, nothing to do you run at that time. This nigga right here. You was the one that started like, man, we was wild.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I used to work to do our litties. I used to approve the stripper. And we didn't lose. Landis, bro. That's like a little trap house. Yeah, we took it over the strip club. They were a summer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:32 For real? Swear to God, bro. They gave us the night, bro. We took it over. I tweeted. Y'all had a ball. How many girls in the city want to dance, nigga, went crazy. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I know it was. I turn her into security. I ain't going to say her name. She didn't meet the inquiry because I know what he likes. I'm like, okay, he's going to be bad. She gets those things. Bro. She can help me out.
Starting point is 01:17:53 She looked like that. She looked like 64. Oh, God. She was strong. For real. He said on everything, saying, screwing. For real, what? That's a story.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Like, we're picking fun. He's looking for it. original story. Hey, that shit was a good-ass time, though. Seriously? We had all the pay. I know y'all had to put.
Starting point is 01:18:13 We had all the pacer niggas coming in there. This is true story, bro. Fax. Damn, man. I've run a bunch of girls from Atlanta. Yeah. Had to. It was going to get wicked.
Starting point is 01:18:22 The girls' thing used to fight. That's crazy. We talked about this with you all here, but the girls used to get mad, bro, because it's just like, y'all, we can't have 30 girls in here. Like, y'all got to take an off night. Like, it's a problem.
Starting point is 01:18:33 So y'all was doing it, like, weekends or? On the night, you did about a Tuesday. Submating Substitutions, 5 and 5 out. Oh, y'all was on me? It was like a Tuesday, and I didn't never, I went to the after hours probably once, but they used to, he was like, shit, we're getting some money. They had the extended hours. So I'll let some of the girls do the extended hours.
Starting point is 01:18:50 You know, call me when you get there, so I'll make sure y'all get through the back. Yeah, so good. They were parking on a... My little old. That was talking about me. Let's talk about us. Get a Tisi with him. I was.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Was that? Was that thing? What's Litties down there in Hallville? It was downtown. They were down. Not too far. Damn, that's crazy, bro. That brought back a lot of memories.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Damn, bro. That's a good part about being from, like, like in the country. Like, y'all, I mean, you know. They're near, yeah. Shit, like, you can do stuff like if you make it out, you can do anything. You come home.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Like, real talk. That's a fact, bro. Like, Charlotte wasn't what Charlotte did is now when I was coming up. Yeah. So it was like. Charlotte lit. Oh, no, it's crazy. Yeah, it's, I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:37 it don't even look like, I could leave for two weeks and come back and that shit look different again. That's crazy. You know what I mean? Like downtown. Speaking to Charlotte, man, how you feel about your hornets, man?
Starting point is 01:19:48 They got lamello out of the city, man, got miles about the city. Looking real different, boy. Them and them Lakers, D.I teams. I think it worked for both teams for what they think they need. I mean, Charlotte,
Starting point is 01:20:02 get three, what, first round, swap? Yeah. Big second round, I mean, three second round picks. Yeah. You get, like, I guess out the miles is more now, but over $50 million in cap space. Yeah. Wow. So I think they're going to do something else and try to go get Jalen Brown.
Starting point is 01:20:20 That's what everybody keeps saying. I think that, but who else? Because I don't know who else. Like, I like the Nyes. Grayson. Yeah. You know, they got Kobe there. Now Kobe going to be on.
Starting point is 01:20:31 They got the boy from Texas. You got traded. Who? I got you. Don't worry about it. Yeah. We're good. We good.
Starting point is 01:20:36 That's a breaking new shit. Nah. Damn, bro. Yeah, they definitely make in place. I think they got, because they got all new management, all new everything. So you can tell that it's probably younger. I don't really what he's talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:54 It's very distracting. Shout somebody. Yeah. You can make you probably the principal school. You're like, damn, I can't long on, bro. Yeah. Nah, yeah. I like what the Hornets is doing.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I mean, we mad about. Lamella, that's our guy for sure. But different vibes for sure. I'm happy to see him and AE together. I can't wait to see what that look like. Me too. That's going to look crazy for sure. Speaking of free age while we hear,
Starting point is 01:21:15 the Lakers, boy. Yeah, yeah. Working news. Yeah. Yeah, some real crazy breaking news. Yeah, we would discuss your own. We didn't go discuss it on this one, but you'll see it. Yeah, we're going to discuss as soon as we get done.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Shout out to them. Oh, I'm going to see. Okay. Yeah. Who is going to be a lot? Louis. something with this. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:36 that's all good. Yeah, you can't be excited like that, but we can't talk about it, though. It don't matter. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:43 but it happened. Look, we're talking about, we hear with the game. Breaking news. Paul George.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Yeah, Celtics for Jalen Brown. Wow. Two first round picks. Damn. Excuse me? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:01 That's it? Bro, it's so crazy. I ain't, Paul George, so. Yeah. Was it two? Wait.
Starting point is 01:22:07 What? It's a two-team trade. It wasn't like a multiple- Nobody else is involved in this? That's what I'm saying. Like, what? I think you don't listen to me, Mo. You said,
Starting point is 01:22:16 two first-round picks and two-second-round-pits. And I respect it. But I'm like, bro. About Jaylin or Paul? In the year of all- You're just going to get rid of him, bro. Paul George is a legend. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Oh. Because to still be even involved in these type of situations, though. first round pick. That's crazy. And two second round picks. Damn. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I don't, well. Hey, what James Pard is like? Yeah. I don't think he won't. How do you think Jalen Brown feel about that? Going to Philly? Because you got a. Well, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I ain't got nothing. I'm cool. We're talking about it. Let's keep talking about Apo then while we're here. All right, let's get to it, man. Lui's, don't worry about this. We'll be like. I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:23:10 No, but speaking of Free age you I'm here anyway A lot of shit has changed Kawah going back to Toronto is crazy Yeah, it is crazy
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah There's a lot of moving parts of the off season Speaking of last year Obviously we know Who won the championship Shout to Knicks How'd you feel about
Starting point is 01:23:26 You know what I'm saying Winby's coming out party Man, the Spurs You got They got a chance to really do something next year They pick up Tobias Obviously
Starting point is 01:23:32 She found everybody back How you feeling? That's a good move for them For them For them Yeah Solid Solid bit
Starting point is 01:23:39 for like the playoffs and pro season and all that they're gonna be I mean they're gonna get better they young yeah Wimby's gonna be stronger you know he gonna I mean they're gonna work with him because like right now what Nix did
Starting point is 01:23:53 basically with him was just force him to the perimeter all the time he couldn't stay down there on that block on that mid post and really get his work all you know so I think he'll be better at that next year I think the Spurs will be right there that's a that's a bias move though I like that.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I like that. I like that too. Yeah, we were just talking about how crazy the free agency is. We got talking about how it has ebbs and flows a couple years ago. Everybody's getting crazy contracts. Now they've been getting back to, it's like if you're a mid-level role player, them guarantees is gone now, which is real interesting to see.
Starting point is 01:24:22 I remember you talked a little bit back about Jimmy Butler in the contract situation. He was just like, coming forward. They are going to stop guaranteeing those into those contracts and everybody trying to force that way out. Right. Now we're looking at... I knew this is going to happen, though, with the second apron too, but I knew how many contracts,
Starting point is 01:24:37 people were getting to get in the way. them huge numbers. Yeah. And they wasn't playing for two or three years. Like, NB, I think it probably started with NB. I know Philly probably want to get off that contract bad because he can't. You know how much, and he's making like 50 minutes? Like, I'm saying if they would have like a, a way, like, a,
Starting point is 01:24:54 his marketing. I guarantee, like. Right, yeah. You get 12, 12 million guaranteed on your 50 million. Yeah. Unless you play 70 games, 60, I'm not going to mean 70's crazy, but 50 games. That's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Like, you got, like, you got to, like, you got to, put some kind of stipulation on that. You got to play at least 60 games. They started all of your money. They started doing that. They did that to Robert Williams. Yeah, yeah. That shit's just, I think, from here on now.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah, that's what I'm doing, boys. Hoo. No, I'm not mad. NBA bad. I love that. I ain't going to lie. Because they're looking at the year and Fox contract, like, boy, we can't move this shit if we wanted to.
Starting point is 01:25:29 He just didn't play well. Yeah, Tom. But four years at 60 apiece, and you feel like... Can you available? Fuck it. Yeah. That's a being, yeah, but I'm good. He's still good.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Oh, yeah, he's a big. We're talking about this bro that making all this money and forcefully sitting out for no reason. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the difference. That's what it needed. Like, I don't know. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Even though Ziongian, he said, shit, they don't want me to play as deal. Yeah, he snitching. Oh, me, I felt him, though. Yonis did that. Yonanis did that. Yeah. Listen, they just told him them, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:04 You know, they just, like, keep him around. Oh, God. I ain't going to love. He told him all of them. Yeah. They had a very dysfunctional locker room, boy, between Dr. Rivers and Cam Thomas and Yonis. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Miles Turner came out and said the vibes was different. Yeah. I know he wished you could get traded. You went out there thinking you about to play with Yonis. You're in a rebuild mode. That's got to be helpful. You signed somewhere in Nevada. Has it ever happened to you, you go to a team, but all right, we're going to be on this.
Starting point is 01:26:30 And you look up as like, oh, this shit changed overnight. Like, where the fuck do I fit in now? No, kind of like, it was like that. in a different way. So like when Jersey traded me and then they went to Brooklyn, I was shitty, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:26:48 It's crazy because when I got there, like I had just signed. And this is like mellow coming out of Denver time. Yeah. They're like, oh, he's going to the New Jersey Nets, the Nicks or something. And he cut it down to the Nets and the Nicks. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Bro, I had just got, I still had boxes I hadn't unpacked in my apartment, bro. They're like, you're going to be in this trade. You let you know that right now. We're going to start down. Damn. Call my mom. I'm like, mom, I just got here.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I don't know. I might be, I don't know where I'm going. I might go to Denver. She's like, what's in Denver? A lot of shit going on. You don't understand them. I call you. I'm about to take a nap.
Starting point is 01:27:28 So like, by the time I woke up, it was like over and then they was like, yeah, he was going to the next. I was like, yeah, he was going to trade like six of us. Yeah. Because, I mean, at that time, Mello was, you know what I mean? Sure. Top of one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:44 But kind of, yeah, so not like where I go somewhere for it. I wasn't one of them dudes. Like, you know, I'm in the trade. I'm just in the trade. I'm not asking to go nowhere. That happened to me, bro. Minnesota. You thought you was going to be with?
Starting point is 01:27:57 I was meant for the Jimmy called me. Tage called me. And they called Jamal. And they like, yo, we're going, we're about to make Minnesota popping. I was like, hell no. I don't want to go here. You don't know me. I cried when I signed there.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Not for a good reason. I cried because, I didn't want to go. You came, and you came from, Indiana. Yeah, here, yeah. I want to go back here.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Yeah, you're going to stay home. Man, my agent signed that shit without me. What? Shout to the real. He said, because I turned it down. The first time they offered me 63 for three, and I turned it down.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I was on the way for Indiana. Then they called back. It was like, hey, we, we dropping it. at the 57. My agent was like... Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:28:42 He called me. He was like, yeah, we signed with Minnesota. Like, why? No the fuck I didn't. He was like... Yes, you did. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 01:28:48 We ain't waiting for no fucking Indiana. Like, I was shitty. Hey, man, he might have made... That would might have been good, though. Oh, it was perfect. Yeah. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Shout to the real. Because, uh, G. Hill signed the same deal, but he had a... He didn't have a... Oh, they weren't all guaranteed. Yeah. So my shit was all guaranteed. They was going to start doing that.
Starting point is 01:29:08 that shit, like, non-guaranteed the last year. Yeah. And he was like, you want a non-guarantee? I'm like, yeah. Shout out to your agent, bro. Yeah, he was like, no, I'm signed that shit. He signed it. Yo, what G. Hill doing, man? He lives, got a big-ass farm in San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, he's chilling, bro. Living life. Yeah. He's doing real well. He's been tour, bro. He got his own, too, bro. Yeah. On everything.
Starting point is 01:29:29 What's up, bro. Niggas can get, you can buy, you can buy to go tour, right? Or something like that. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Shout out of G Hill, man. G. No, he living right for you.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Yeah, NBA is a crazy place, man, because people be talking about all right, they get out of this money, but like, you can wake up and be like, bro, I don't know where I'm about to live tomorrow. That's crazy to me. They got banked there. It doesn't matter how to.
Starting point is 01:29:47 That's a fact. I don't know about I really care. No, hell no. I got traded from OKC to Chicago, man. I found out on Twitter. I'm in a cold tub. What? They said, yeah, practice.
Starting point is 01:30:00 So I wasn't, like, really playing. So, you know, we're going to get three on three and get the threes jump. Yeah. I'm hooping. I see. Troy Weaver and Russ, like, looking at this hoop, you know, I'm not thinking nothing of it. Man, I go in the back, you know, I get in the shower, whatever, get right. Coltub, Sana.
Starting point is 01:30:20 I get in the cold tub. I'm like, got that Wodge, Mom. I look up. Yeah, scams them. The guys, the real guys, Wage. Man, I look up. It's like, I remember it was like, I was in the cold tub, like Stephen Adams and his. canter, like a couple of the young guys
Starting point is 01:30:39 they were just looking at me. I look up. I'm like, it's real. God damn, let me get out of here, man. Go ahead. Sam, he was like, you know, social media is kind of crazy. You're going to see it on social media before you're going to actually add a thing.
Starting point is 01:30:59 That's the person you say. And that's bullshit, though. No, he said like that. No, hell, no, he said like that. It was like, emo, like, you know, it's the business we had to do some stuff move some stuff around. We don't want to trade. We didn't want to put you in the trade.
Starting point is 01:31:13 But it was like you were the best shooter we've ever had in our organization. That made me feel a little better, but I got to go to the fucking cargo the next day. Tell me, y'all already knew y'all tried me, nigga. Tell me, bro, get you a shire. They let me play pickup, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:32 They let me play pickup, bro. I was like, Nick. The coach talk, can get in with the youngster. Right. What we do for you? Bro. Like, I'm going to go out to the next day?
Starting point is 01:31:41 Like, we was off the next day? No. I hate that about the NBA, bro. Man, that was crazy. Yeah, but I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:48 yeah. That's they being it. But I just hate that they do y'all. Because they be norm, bro. Just holler at me when I get there. You know what's working out. You knew this break was done.
Starting point is 01:31:57 For sure. Yeah. All right, before we get out of here, I know y'all both sneaker heads, man. We got to talk about y'all link up, man, copy kicks, man.
Starting point is 01:32:03 oh, man. Well, he took me to, What was, oh, buddy, what's his name? He had the store in Atlanta? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:13 you took me. I took you? Yeah, what's his name? Trenton Day James. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Trinidad. Oh, you might be, was it, um. And I bought them,
Starting point is 01:32:25 goddamn, them easy red octobas. And they wasn't, Oh, that's where you bought. And they wasn't real. Yeah, they weren't real. I didn't know that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I went to the, uh... Did I buy the day in that day? I think... You're the reason I went up there. I went to, uh... I don't think I... Aymot took you the palace. Oh, underground...
Starting point is 01:32:43 Oh, uh... No, that's newer. Yeah, that's new. It was, uh... Out where it was at? It might have been a... Oh, there might have been... God damn, what's this street?
Starting point is 01:32:52 Used to have the restaurants and... Yeah, yeah. What was it called? It ain't there. None of that's there now. Damn, for real. Yeah, you took me over there because Aymah had all the kicks.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Yeah, I was going to say, he always has a show. All the heat. He's like, yeah, we can go over there. I bought them the motherfuckers. I took them to a thing. It was like my babies. I took them to a sneaker thing.
Starting point is 01:33:12 And dudes was like, nah, brother. They got you. They got you. Yeah, they got you. I'm like, ah, hell. What's Yeezys? Red October.
Starting point is 01:33:23 The Red October? Wow, bro. Shout to my dog. Amo took me a bill back. How much is? You paid a bad for now? Like 1,500. I should have known.
Starting point is 01:33:31 That was different time periods. I should have known. I got the. him too, but I ain't go, I ain't from that. He said, I don't know. No, he wasn't, I said, bro,
Starting point is 01:33:41 but take bro to the, you know what I'm saying? He was lit with the sneaker shopping, though. Yeah. But, yeah, I was, I made it bad. I wouldn't even post a, be wearing them.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I was. He was with a deed. Yeah. Well, they were the finest shit out of you. You know, Amy. I'm telling you. Like, we're back. Maybe shout out to a deed.
Starting point is 01:34:02 I got one. Oh, yeah, man. I love you back Yeah He's gonna have all the shoes bro I was with Nike So like I
Starting point is 01:34:09 A lot of that I wasn't even I just knew how to You know When they gave The joint Like Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:15 I just wasn't getting like Normal shit I'm like Hey man Let me get these You know what He had all this Him and Jay Jack
Starting point is 01:34:21 Well Jared was No Jerry was crazy He had the He had a seller Of shoes Like downstairs In the crib
Starting point is 01:34:28 Damn They was gonna crazy You see I'm wearing Different pair of shoes Every day of my life I'm like See how NBA niggas, man
Starting point is 01:34:36 You just do stupid shit We don't even care No for show, man Good vibes, A-mo, man We appreciate you pulling up, man For sure one more time The other people that can find you Everybody can tap in
Starting point is 01:34:46 By the way PGA A front line front of you I still got them shoes I ain't gonna love Yeah, you get anything You're still with Adidas bro, I wish I was still with Nike But
Starting point is 01:34:58 I kept them I kept them, though That's the fact That boy Adidas down What he's talking about? B-B-L, you see. The BB? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:35:12 That's crazy. They should hold my little. All that. I said, he's still with the deal. He got everything on. No, bro. We appreciate you for sliding, though. Oh, man.
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