Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Brandon Jennings & Jeff Teague on WILD rookie season with Bucks, trashing Ricky Rubio

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 45 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by former member of the Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and New York Knicks Brandon Jennings to discuss all things high school, AAU, overseas, and NBA basketball. Jennings tells stories about guarding Chauncey Billups, going back and forth with Eric Gordon, signing to play overseas out of high school, trashing Ricky Rubio, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:30 - Playing against Chauncey Billups03:00 - Best Hoop Mixtapes05:23 - Going to Oak Hill10:00 - Best AAU memory13:00 - ABCD camp story16:10 - BEST High School basketball player in Cali19:30 - Brandon Jennings got Jeff Teague paid23:10 - Brandon Jennings going overseas25:40 - Signing with Under Armour28:50 - Playing in today's NBA29:55 - Scoring 55 in a game35:40 - Draft workouts #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're going to introduce my man's last, but to my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Hinn, out the pearlies. How you what? What's happening, Ashley? Let's get to it, goddammit. I see you upgraded to the forces, you know what I'm saying? B. Jennings, you ever seen the Cali, you know what I'm saying? They rocking the black forces with the white laces out there? Nah, I mean, black forces mean that you about serious business.

Damn, damn. Somebody about to get got. You a high fashion nigga and it match your hoodie. We'll tap in after the pod, bro. I got you. I got you. Nah, I'll fuck with them, though. I mean, Yeezy just, Kanye just had to.

Shout out to the pods. The all Blacks on, too. So, you know. You know, so shout out to Yeezy. There's a wave. They back. Yeah, they back. The all Blacks are back. Oh, you know. They know it, so shout out to Yeezy. There's a wave. They back. Yeah, they back. The All Blacks are back.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I mean, if we got them. Oh, shit. One dog to my right. Young Nacho, Young T. You ain't got the Black Forge's on, but I got the Beetle Mumps.

He's my, what's he's called? Black Cat Forge. Yeah, you might not rob a nigga, but you might stab a nigga now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know. I get active in these,

but man, it's good, man. We got, we got legendary you might stab a nigga in them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know. I get active in these, but, man. It's good, man. We got legendary. We got a legend. A real legend. Class of 08. Hoop legend. A lot of y'all getting paid because of this man right here.

B. Jennings, appreciate you pulling up the 520, my dog. Thank you, man. For the show, bro. All y'all, thank you. For the show, man. Like, we got to start off the episode the right way. We got to ask you a tough question, you know what I'm saying? Okay. You came in the league getting super active, you know what I'm saying? Okay.

You came in the league getting super active, you know what I'm saying? We know what you did. Who was the first person that you guarded in the league who was just like, oh, this shit crazy? I know you was a pro already, but when you got to the league, who was that first match show you was just like, oh, shit, I got to deal with this shit every night? I would have to say Chauncey Billups.

I think it was like my third game in. And I gave him 32 and 9. But at the same time, I just knew, I was like, okay, like, this is what the league's about. Like, posting me up, like, you know what I'm saying? I had to get stronger and everything. But Chauncey Billups was like my wake-up call to like, alright, like, alright, like, this is what it's gonna be like.

Nah, fuck that. How that's a wake-up call you had 32 and 9? Shit, I would be like nah fuck that how does a wake-up call you had 32 and i shit i don't like this shit easy i mean because like i mean like i'm a rookie so i'm a fan so it's like i'm going against chancel MVP like the finals and you know nba champion and be able to be like with him and kenyan martin mellow and j JR out there and be 32-9. It's like, oh, shit. Like, you know, like, it was a hype moment, but it also was, like, a moment of, like, okay, like, all right,

like, this is what it's going to be about. So who made you switch your bag up, though, when you went up against him? Who made me switch my bag up? Yeah, like, who was that crazy back-and-forth duo? I know Chauncey made you think about the game, but who was that when you first went up against him? It was like, all right, I'm at this nigga here.

We going crazy at each other. In the league? Yeah. Darren Williams. D-Will. D-Will. Did you get you with that crossover? D-Will, yeah, in Utah.

The double snatch? Yeah, the double snatch. And then like, once I matched up with D-Will, like I had a bunch of great games against D-Will. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I just felt like, and he was one of the top guards.

So, you know, it was him and CP3. So those two and being able to match up with D. Will, it was like, I was like, all right, like, I'm nice. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can compete because, like, he was one of the top guards. Oh, okay. Dog, you a mixtape legend, got one of the coldest basketball mixtapes of all time. Austin Rivers was talking about it recently,

about the mixtape situation. Obviously, we know where you stand on that. Who would you say besides you is some of them people like, damn, he got a crazy mixtape? A kill car. Crime stopper. A kill car. The fact that when he played,

he stopped crime in Baltimore says a lot about him. Because they do the wire out there. Like, you know, so I don't think a lot of people give a kill car his love, but I've seen that young'un

and the type of hype and the type of people that come in Baltimore and like stop everything they're doing just to see him. That's different. That's different.

That's just different to me. I remember him playing against Moog. Yeah, he has one of my favorite AU games I watch. Yeah, him and Moog went at it.

That was dope. I told him Moog was kind of low-key scared to guard him a little bit. He started doing all that shit. I seen Moog stand up little bit. He started doing all that shit. I seen Mook stand up like,

man, go on with that shit. Nah, but you know who had another crazy mixtape dude named Trey Jefferson? Oh, yeah. Trey Jefferson, yeah.

Bro, his mixtape is crazy. I ain't gonna lie. He got a fire mixtape. Trey Jefferson, John Wall. John Wall. Boy. You know,

John Wall. At that fake school. At that fake school. The real NIL. That shit school. The real NIL. That shit crazy. The real NIL. The first NIL. Yeah, John Wall, I mean, yeah, man, I mean, you know,

that was just the beginning of it. You know, even D. Rose, you know, you look at D. Rose shit, like, it's crazy. Tariq Evans. Facts. You know, that's one of my goats in the 08 class. You know, if people don't say I'm the best player in the 08 class I gotta go with Tariq Evans

any day damn any day like Tariq Evans was like did y'all have any AU battles um did we play against each other

AU no we played against against each other in high school um against Oak Hill and he man he crossed Nolan Smith

so bad and Nolan's my guy shout out to Nolan but god damn he hit Nolan with so bad and that was my guy shout out to Nolan but god damn he hit Nolan with something crazy but no man he was just like that

you know that that big guard like he was one of the first big guards that we've seen like you know how guards now are like 6'4 or 6'5

like he was that first big guard that you've seen and that's why he went so high in the draft too because everybody was under 6 foot and he was like

6'3, 6'4 the prototype yeah of what today is absolutely so man we gotta take it back man high school days i mean it started you off being a legend you go from cali to the east coast yeah obviously we don't say how you got there but how was that making that decision to go to oak hill leaving comfort zone young kid growing into a man taking basketball is like your real job now how was that decision and like how was that going out there because when we talked to everybody like we talked to Josh Smith going out there was like damn

okay it sounded like y'all was doing a bid out there uh I mean to me I just wanted more in life like my situation at home wasn't great uh grew up in a single parent mother home you know my dad passed when I was eight so at 11 I had to become the man of the house like you know basketball became a job and it was the, you know, it was paying rent and things like that. So, you know, Oak Hill was just, um, a situation where I wanted to grow and, you know, do things for myself. Like, you know, Oak Hill, I had to wash my own clothes. I had to go to school, wake up and, you know, clean my room and just be a man, like, you know what I'm saying? Grow up. So up so um it was definitely one of the best experience

i've had in my life and you know that was one of the reasons why i don't mind taking challenges and taking risk in life because of that move to oak hill um i think we were just talking about it before on the pod but you know it was between me and eddie reels at the time if y'all know who eddie reels is lefty from miami and um you know, we were supposed to, Steve Smith had to choose between me and him, and we're both lefties. But, of course, I got the nod because, you know, my man Marcus Williams and his dad, Kelly Williams, they, you know, they looked out for me.

And, of course, he made the best decision. For sure. Definitely. All respects to Eddie, but we know what it is. Nah, for sure. It wasn't close. I busted Eddie's ass, too. But he's cool.

Facts. I played against Eddie ass too. But he's cool. Facts. I played against Eddie Rios when he went to Miami. And yeah, they made a good decision. Christmas. No disrespect though. You did what you had to do.

But I was wondering, I knew you for, man, I was a fan of your game since you was in high school. You were younger than me, but I used to watch your game. So you played for SoCal out of California. Yeah. You had younger than me, but I used to watch your game. So you played for SoCal out of California.

Yeah. You had a squad. I remember the first time I seen y'all play was you, Chase Budinger, I think Taylor King, and Taj Gibson. And y'all went up

against Indie Heat who had Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Daquan Cook, Aaron Poe, Eric Gorey. And y'all had a duel. And that was the first time

I seen like somebody really go at Mike like you wasn't like you wasn't like shit and they like yeah he younger too he younger than them I was like 10th grade

yeah I'm like damn who is this little motherfucker and I was like I ain't no hater but I'm like you know people like nah he gonna be the true

like he can't fuck with Mike and I'm like damn he fucking with Mike like Danny fucking with Mike yeah yeah yeah right what was that like man like competing two grades up I guess you was a um I mean I always loved the challenge man so you know like I said before like you know my situations in life so basketball was like everything that's all I knew so you know I had to work 10 times harder you know I'm only 6'1 and you know us as little guards we gotta you know put in the extra extra time so just being able to you know be at that age and be in advance and um you know be out there with Greg Oden, Eric Gordon uh Greg Oden,

Eric Gordon um you know um Dequan Cook, Mike Conley, like taking on those challenges early just helped me, helped my game. So when I played against my class, I was looking at them, it was like, they was like light. Like you light, because I never ducked in smoke. Since ABCD camp, since, you know, you've been to ABCD camp the big time, everything. Like, so if you see me at that age, that means you know I wasn't ducking smoke. Nah, you wasn't ducking no smoke. That's why when y'all was talking about Gil's arenas, like, I mean, I don't know. I didn't get to see them in high school.

I knew Rashad McKenzie Scott Buckus in high school. I seen him at McDonald's and all that shit. But I'm like, bro, I seen this nigga when he was in 10th grade. Trying to hold my own. He was out there hooping bro fighting against killers fighting against better niggas too

yeah yeah like I played against the top like that's you know I'll be on you know I'll be keeping it humble

nah I don't know why I'm just kidding I don't want to be a humble cause you had a didn't you play against OJ Mayo too OJ all the time my nigga Kenan Ellis

was on that squad you been playing niggas like in high school and on the AU that's why you been playing niggas like in high school and on the AU that's why I'm saying niggas that came all the way from Ohio out there to Dominguez

to fuck with y'all so you been doing it for a long time bro yeah I mean yeah OJ

he killed us OJ and Bill Walker was but but it's just like you know that's the that's why I love

the game of basketball like I love like you know the challenge like it's like I don you know, that's the, that's the, that's why I love the game of basketball. Like, I love, like, you know, the challenge. Like, it's like, I don't, I don't really fuck with people in basketball that never took on the challenge. Like, you know, if you're not in those settings, you don't like being in that hostile environment, then it's like, it's not for you. Like, cause this is what it's about. Like, it's everything is hostile. It's competition. So it's like, if you duck and smoke, it's like, you know, like, watch out.

Yeah, move around. I got a question, though. What's your best AAU matchup, you think? My best AAU matchup? Yep. I think my best AAU game, and it has nothing to do with, like, scoring. It has to do with locking up Eric Gordon

in the second half of the championship game in the big time. Eric Gordon had 40 points on us with Mean Street, him and Derrick Rose. Eric Gordon was coming down, killing. I'm talking about, he was killing us, right? Half time, I said, I got him. I got him.

Like, I got, y'all do what y'all do, I got him. And I held him to like maybe 10, 16 points. I mean, you know, he still had 40, but it was just like that moment of just like, you know, being a defender and having to, you know, like take a, you know, take a step down and just like, you know, like defend somebody. So, you know, that was like one of my big,

biggest like AAU moments to me. I was at that game. They beat us in the final four. Mean Streets did. Eric Gordon had a dunk that was on the internet. He dunked one of my teammates. Shout out to Tommy. Yeah, he dunked on Tommy so a dunk that was on the internet. He dunked one of my teammates. Shout out to Tommy. Yeah, he dunked on Tommy so bad.

Everybody ran on the court. His brother got ejected and shit. Everybody started bullying us and shit. T-Free, man. He got punched on. He got punched on. I got crossed at half court, my fault. But you got punched on.

You made that happen? He crossed me at half and punched on that nigga. I was like, God damn, my fault, Tommy. But they started bullying us. Then I watched y'all game. my fault, Tommy. But they started booing us. And then I watched y'all game. And Eric is going crazy. I'm like, yo, this nigga is the best player. He from here.

So I'm like, damn, Eric really does good. Yeah. Who's the best player y'all ever seen out of Indiana? Eric. Eric. In high school. Eric was got in high school. When he did the Jordan kids, bro, ESPN was legendary, bro.

It was crazy, bro. But then to see y'all keep going at it, I'm like, Eric was killing so much. And then the second half, like you said, you started competing against him. I'm watching the game differently because I'm a fan of the game. I'm like, damn, Eric can't really get by him. Like, damn, Eric really ain't killing no more.

Like, damn, what the fuck this little nigga killing? Like, that's that same nigga from last year? I'm like, this little motherfucker going to be cold because I'm older than him. So I'm acting like, yo, he's a little, next thing you know, it's him, bro. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, that little fro, little shirt was big as hell.

Jerky was hanging off and shit. The big ass white T-shirt used to wear. Oh God, bro. I was like, this little nigga gonna be nice. I had the hardball uniforms. I was thugging. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.

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Sonny Bacurl. Shout out to Sonny Bacurl, man. The legend. You know, when he got to Reebok, you know, we was, you know, we had to, we was wearing ice creams, S.Dodd Carters, Iversons. I mean, I don't know what shoes y'all have. Nah, we didn't get that.

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Let me tell you about these niggas at ABCD camp, man. It's him and Isaiah Thomas. Nobody knows me. I get invited by this camp by Coach Conley got me in. Nigga, I'm in the back of the line waiting for my jersey and shoes. Him and IT come out the back. Two boxes of shoes, sweatshirts, all type of shit. I'm like, damn, everybody get that shit? I get up to the line. Them motherfuckers hand me my shoes. Him and IT come out the back. Two boxes of shoes, jerseys, sweatshirts, all type of shit. I'm like, damn, everybody get that shit? I get

up to the line, them motherfuckers hand me my shoes. They ain't even in a box. They hand me my two like this. Like, here you go, bro. What the fuck? I hate these niggas. That's when I knew them niggas was different, bro. I'm like, where was your jersey number? Like, 257, some shit like that.

I'm some real shit. I ain't gonna lie. I was hurt, bro. Like,7 or some shit like that. Call some real shit. I ain't gonna lie. I was 30, bro. Like, we was talking about it earlier, nigga. The real hoopers played the second and the fourth. Yeah.

I played the first and the third. So, but I'm killing. I'm thinking I'm fucking niggas up to a nigga, Corey Fisher. I played, he played the first quarter and the fourth quarter. I had a good game

against him in the first, well, a good quarter against him. And then a nigga told me in the middle of the game, like, nigga, you playing in the third. Like, had a good game against him in the first, well, a good quarter against him. And then a nigga told me in the middle of the game, like, nigga, you playing in the third. I'm like, what the fuck you talking about?

I get to looking. I'm like, all the good niggas on the bench. I was like, damn. I thought he was a real starter. Nigga thought I was the one. Nigga, they started me

and everything. Your point pitcher was cold, though, huh? He was cold. Yo, he had all New York behind him, huh? Man, everybody, nigga. Anytime he official was cold, though, huh? He was cold. Yo, he had all New York behind him, huh? Man, everybody, nigga. Anytime he came down, man. Bro, they started yelling.

The best matchup at that time, you had a good matchup, but a fire matchup was him and Johnny Flint. The crowd was just standing up the whole game, and I'll never forget Paul Harris was like, you better than him, Johnny. And I was looking back, I was like, who the fuck is this strong ass nigga? This nigga don't big as hell, bro.

Who the fuck is this? You better than's not even big as hell, but who the fuck is better than him? I'll never forget that, bro. The NBCD camp was a moment. That matchup was crazy, and then the one with Lance Stevenson and OJ. Ah, I should've mentioned that.

Remember, Lance was in the eighth grade. Lance was in the eighth grade going against an OJ male that was a junior. Yeah. Like, Lance, I always tell people, man, Lance Stevenson's one of them ones

that's like, to me, that's just like, bro. He was different. He was different. He was on the cover of Slam, bro. He was the prodigal kid. He was up next. Ready.

I know Sebastian Telfair, but he kept that legacy going. That's a real fact. So shout out to Lance Stevenson. Speaking of legacy, who the best? Look at him. Don't know how to pot. That's crazy. That's crazy. And that ringtone is nasty, by the way. Bro, you might Don't know how to pot. That's crazy. That's crazy.

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back to back to my home bro nah but speaking of legacy we talk about like California where you put yourself as like

California guards you know you got BD you got Gil y'all got so many James Harden where you put yourself like we could just say high school okay we just like California guards, you know, you got BD, you got Gil. Yeah. Y'all got so many, James Harden. Yeah. Where you put yourself?

Well, we're going to say high school. okay. We just talking high school then. Cause if we're talking everything, then I have to go with, you know, if we're talking everything NBA,

I'm going to go with James and Russ. Yeah. With the guards. And then, I mean, of course Gil and BD. But we're talking just high school out of California. I mean,

I'm number one like there's no guard in California basketball that ever played high school basketball that's better than me that's hard just off the fact that first of all I left Dominguez like who the fuck leaves Dominguez when it's a powerhouse school to go to Oak Hill

so I made a transition that was first of all bold, ignorant you know, like, you know, cocky type. And I go to Oak Hill my first year and I win a national championship. So, you know, 40-1 and then my senior year I become

Naismith Player of the Year. So I actually feel like I took the bullet for us West Coast. I mean, LA Hoopers. You know, going to the East Coast and having to battle all these guards and you know take on every challenge every night

because you know Oak Hill ain't no every game count like you lose one game you don't win you ain't no state no national nothing

you just going there so I just think my route my route in general in high school was just better than anybody's nah you

you got the best route for sure I ain't already I thought about it I'm like hell nah your route is crazy bro. Nah, you- You got the best route for sure. I ain't already. I thought about it, I'm like, hell nah, your route is crazy, bro. Yeah. I would say y'all the best.

I mean, I don't know every guard in California and that. That's going to be a great debate for the pod when people get in YouTube comments or whatever. But for me, I was going to say you was the best out of high school. Overall, like I agree with you, James and Russ, they NBA careers are amazing. But California got so many hoopers.

For sure. I mean, and then, you know, even out of high school, like going straight, like, like just the beginning of my career in NBA, I was better than a lot of niggas. Oh, nah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like from Europe until like, you know,

my thing is I didn't have to wait. You did. Like, you know, and that's just my biggest thing. Like I was always a star I hated you this is real shit nigga everything and I felt

and you know what's crazy I felt that when we played I'm like Jeff I don't think Jeff fucked with me I don't think Jeff liked me like he was like who is this nigga everything I wanted to do

this nigga was doing this nigga started as a rookie this nigga's killing I'm like what the fuck like I just went to wait for it I was killing this nigga to get the play I nigga's killing I'm like what the fuck like I just went to wait for it I was killing this nigga to get to play

I'm gonna sit behind Mike Bibby like then I never forget that nigga did the behind the back wrap around hit the layup looked at me said you might want to get

in the game nigga I said oh shit this old nigga can't guard me he wasn't saying it as like nigga you can't fuck with me he was saying it like nigga get him out the game

it's young nigga's time like but I was hurt I'm on the bench like and Josh Smith being the asshole he is he was like damn

and Josh being Josh I know Josh Smith I know Josh Smith Josh being I know you wanna play like fuck you nigga like

and you wanna play yeah you wanna play bro for sure Josh Smith you know how he is Josh Smith like oh yeah you don't oh yeah you think you huh Fucking nigga. Hey, you want to play, huh? Yeah, you want to play, bro. For sure. Josh is definitely like that. Josh is like, you know how it is. Josh was like, oh, yeah, you think you, huh? Uh-huh, yeah.

You definitely want to play tonight, huh? I was like, damn, but nah, you was cold. And then one night I was like, I was hating because you was playing, but I always respected you. Like, no, this nigga is good. And I knew when it was time to play, you like, this nigga reliable to get 50. So let me try to go at him first

because I know this nigga about to get his shit off, nigga. Like, he gonna go at you. So, let me try to like, at least try to give him some foul trouble

or something because he getting his 50 or 25, 30. And I was like, damn. And I still thank you to this day that you wanted to leave Milwaukee

because he the reason I got some money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm about to say you can't do no wrong in my life

because they they offered me and then I was like and I had to go because they wanted me to go meet Bud and I'm like I'm not finna go

go to Atlanta and meet him like what the fuck like you know just young me you know young us like you know

we ain't and then and then they offered me and then that's when I went to Detroit yeah that's what I got I was like because they wanted Atlanta wanted me and I was like I ain't going And then they offered me, and then that's when I went to Detroit. That's what I got. Because Atlanta wanted me, and I was like, I ain't going to Atlanta.

I just wasn't fucking with it. Yeah, I was like, I appreciate this nigga for the rest of my life. He was like, I'm not signing back. I was like, he's not signing back. I'm sitting at the crib because Atlanta offered me, like, four-year 24. And they just gave Kyle Korver, like, four-year 28. I'm like, are y'all fucking kidding me? I'm like, y'all playing. The the market was low y'all playing for real bro

and then he was like I don't know what they offered you but you turned it down I'm like damn like I thought you was gonna get like everybody was like I'm like B Jenny's getting that like Stefan all them y'all gonna get the same and you left and I'm like damn when they called me

I said I love this nigga I love this nigga for the rest of my life I need this bag nah but what's crazy is you know like going back to that situation it's like you know that's the reason why I left my agent Bill Duffy at the time because he didn't tell me that they had Milwaukee had offered me yeah Milwaukee had

Milwaukee so the beginning of that year right before that year Milwaukee had offered me 40 for 4 right and my agent didn't tell me oh that's fucked so so what happened was and my agent didn't tell me and then the GM um um GM um uh at the time um what's my god he told uh John Hammond right John Hammond he told uh he told my underarmor rep he was like man can you believe this kid didn't take 40 for 4? I'm like, and I had no idea that they had offered me. So they didn't come back.

My agent was like, yeah, you know, he was like, yeah, I don't think 40 for 4 is it. Like, you know, we should go for the max, max, max. So my mom and him was pushing the max. And, you know, it kind of fucked up my relationship with my mom, too, at Asia. Because it was like, well, y'all doing shit behind my back, and I don't even know. So I didn't sign going into, I'm playing the game, and it was too late to sign.

So I had to play that whole year in Milwaukee without being, you know, I wanted to resign. So that's why the situation looked so bad when I left, because it's like, well, I wanted to sign, but it was too late for me to sign because I didn't know they offered me. So I got fucked over. Nah, damn. I didn't know that. So, well, I wanted to sign, but it was too late for me to sign because I didn't know they offered me. So I got fucked over. Nah, damn. So yeah, that was my big...

I hate that that helped me. I mean, yeah, but you know, that's just... That was just like the cold of the game. And I was speaking to the Rising Stars the other day, kids, about life and situations and the people that surround you. You know, you gotta, you know,

you gotta, you know, watch who's around you. You know, no matter if it's your mom, it's your dad, it's your agent, anybody. Like you gotta make sure they're really there for you and care for you. That's a fact. And, you know, younger, my younger career, I didn't really have good people around me.

And I'm not saying my agent wasn't good or people, it's just things that they didn't tell me. Like, I like to be, be honest with me. Like, I'm gonna take it how it is. But when you didn't tell me. Like, I like to be, be honest with me. Like, I'm going to take it how it is. But when you don't tell me, then, you know, then I got to act out. You know what I'm saying? Then I got to act out.

There was no reason for you to leave Milwaukee because you was like. Yeah. But they offered me. But they offered me. That's why I was confused. I was like, damn. I was like, fuck it.

Shit. Offer sheet. Son of a fuck. I saw that motherfucker so fast. He said, what? I'm like, that it. Shit. Offer sheet. I saw that motherfucker so fast. He said, what? That motherfucker, curse of great. But nah. But when you did that, you went to Detroit.

And we're going to get back to you being in Milwaukee and how you was killing. Because I know you went to Detroit after that, but you was killing in Detroit too. But I want us to go back to Milwaukee. I want to go even further back. Like, you not even going to college. Like, what made you take that route? Like, fuck it. You were supposed to go even further back. Like, you not even going to college. Like, what made you take that route? Like, fuck it. You were supposed to go to Arizona.

You like, nah. Well, I couldn't pass the SAT. It's a lot of hard down. Ain't that crazy they don't got to do that shit no more? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. It's probably because of you.

Probably. It's just all that shit come from you, bro. Brandon Jr. is damn near a soldier boy. I'm the first. I'm the first. Who works at TD near soldier boy um but no like I mean it wasn't that I couldn't pass it uh they flagged my my score twice so I had took it in the summer time right um so I'm so I'm out of school I had to take it again and I took it and then they flagged it right so I'm in the summer and I'm just like trying to figure Like, you know, I'm 18, number one player in the country, and I don't have nowhere to go.

Damn. Like, I have nowhere. I can't go to summer school at Arizona. Luke Olsen just retired. Gerald Bayless said that he's leaving. So I don't know what the hell I'm finna do, right? So, you know, I'm just sitting in the car in traffic with my mom, broke.

We broke, like, poor, trying to figure it out, you know. And Sonny Baccaro goes on the phone and he's like, yo, I don't understand why kids just don't sit out for a year, train, or go overseas. So I'm just like, well, damn. Like, you know, shit, go overseas. Like, you know, I don't know if I can play. You know, I start going to YouTube looking at videos.

Like, them niggas fighting and shit. Like, I don't know. I don't know. It was different over there. I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, I don't know. I don't know. It was different over there. I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, you niggas might want to take off. Like, you know. So I asked my coach, Steve Smith, I was like, yo, do you think I can play?

He was like, hell yeah, you can play over there. Like, this is going to be good for you, easy. So he was one of the persons that gave me the confidence. And then I called Sonny. And, you know, for youngins, too, going out there, you you know that once I'm in life sometimes you have to pick up the phone and call people when you want something in life so you know I called Sonny you know he was like hell yeah let's do this you know did my background check and everything and then we went to Vegas in two weeks and I got signed so this was

like this was like all in a two week span. Like I'm, I'm, I'm in the house stressing out, like in my room trying to figure it out. And, you know, I'm just like, bro,

I'm about to be a failure. Like I'm about to be one of them, you know, Lenny Cooks or whatever it is like, you know, just those guys and Sonny called, make the phone call. Then next thing you know,

I signed, I signed a contract in Rome for, for a team in Rome. And then I signed a contract with Under Armour. Well, like, what's that like? Hell of a month. Like, all in the span of three weeks. That's crazy.

What is like being that guy? Like, we see Steph Curry got Under Armour now. Yeah. He's the big. But you popped that shit up. Pioneer. Yeah. What was that like?

Because I remember I used to look at your shoes. I was like, man, there's no way he likes them shits. Yeah. I mean, it was different. You know, I just felt like my route has always been different. I always felt like everything has been a challenge or a risk. So it was another risk, another challenge that I was taking. You know, me tearing my Achilles, of course, in the shoes and things like that.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's crazy is you signed with Under Armour. I went with Nike. I'm like, damn, this ain't getting

all this money, right? And then I seen Kimba. Kimba come with Under Armour. Yeah. You know what I did? And then I seen Kimba. Kimba come with Under Armour. Yeah. You know what I did? Hey, agent, you think you can get me with Under Armour? I put them shoes on.

I said, these niggas got some good ass ankles. Because these ain't going to work for T. Like, these ain't going to work for me. These niggas are special. I knew you and Kimba was different, boy. The way y'all was cutting this shit out,

it wouldn't work for me. I said, I need some Adidas. I need something a little sturdy. But I used to like how y'all came with y'all shoes, man. Y'all had every colorway. They used to treat y'all good. So it's dope to hear what y'all back together. Shout out to Chris Stone, man.

Chris Stone made a lot of things happen during that time. I mean, he was with Curry Brand now, but Chris Stone was really the force of everything. He was like, whatever y'all want. You know what I'm saying? It was like, whatever we wanted. want. You know what I'm saying? It was like whatever we wanted. So we were basically just creating things. Like during the lockout, I had, you know,

Chris Stone made sure that I had an internship job. That's how I got into fashion. Because I was in there creating my own shoes and different things. So I was able to see how a business was supposed to be run and everything, like making merch and everything. So like that 2011 lockout was special. Nice.

And gave us some of the best basketball of all time. The lockout program runs with some of the best basketball of all time. Hey, yours resurfaced the other day. I had a little, oh yeah, I did a little moment in the lockout. You going to John Wall? Yeah, we had a little moment. Mine just resurfaced too with Josh Shelby.

Oh, y'all had a moment. Another slept on me. Shout out to Josh Shelby, man. Philae. The Philae guy. Philae. Yeah, Philae. Yeah, shout out to Josh Shelby, bro.

Yeah, we ain't fucked with each other when I first saw him. Because it was like, you know, like that Hooper moment. You know when you look at somebody like, look up and down. Like, I'm out of here. Like, it was like that. But no, shout out to B-More. I always wanted, like you said, you're a pioneer in so many things in basketball, especially for both of y'all, the way that y'all play.

If y'all could play in y'all prom, like in today's NBA, especially the way that you can market yourself, especially the way, like, the fashion, the way you just, how you work, period, it would be so crazy. Like, if you would be able to take over, like, Under Armour handle and then play in the game, like, you feel like you could just grow your brand even more now, the way that they encourage players to have their own brands now? Because they kind of discouraged it back then

on the low. Yeah, I mean, I feel like, to me, I was ahead of my time. Like, I came in to the league fucking Gumby, fucking high top fade.

Louis Backpack. Like, for sure. Louis Backpack. Almost did it. But today, I feel like if we played today, they would hate us.

Because we would need the NBA. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like played today, they would hate us. Because we wouldn't need the NBA. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we needed the NBA for marketing. Now you can market yourself. Like, you know what I'm saying? We would be on a podcast. Like, you would have your podcast, right? You would have other things in life to where you would need,

like, you could just market yourself. And the money, of course. I mean, think about it. I mean, now they're getting, like, I mean, so we would be getting 80 million just sitting there. Like, imagine what we would be doing. So today, I think they would hate us. Because we wouldn't, because we getting, like, I mean, so we would be getting 80 million just sitting there. Like, imagine what we would be doing. So today, I think they would hate us. Because we wouldn't, because we would be like,

like, because we wouldn't need them. Like, you know, like some of the stuff that we needed back then, we wouldn't need the NBA. We could just do ourselves. That's real. Can we speak on that 55-point game, though? Like, do you remember that day from start to finish in Milwaukee? The thing about 55, people be forgetting, though? Like, do you remember that day from start to finish in Milwaukee? Uh,

the thing about 55, people be forgetting, I didn't score in the first quarter. So, you did a shit in three quarters? Yeah.

Shit. So, I didn't score in the first quarter at all. I went 0 for 5 and Scouts pulled me out. He was like, you ain't ready to play.

He's like, go sit, you ain't ready to play. Like, one of the Scouts was on me every fucking day, South South Scouts because, um, you know, bro. South, South, Scouts.

Because, you know, he helped me, you know, especially not having a father figure in my life. Like, you know, your first coach and your first, you know, everything in the league. Like, you want to go well. So, like, he was that guy that was there for me, that I needed to hear humble me and also let me know, like, you're not as hot as you think you are.

Like, you know, that type of humbleness that I needed. But, man, yeah, he took me out the game. Like, you ain't ready to play. Come back in there. He was like, I hope you're ready to play now. Like, you know, just always on me. But the 55 game, I just remember going to Denny's the next morning. Damn, you went to Denny's after scoring 55?

Yeah, I mean, the Under Armour budget wasn't like that back then. The Under Armour budget wasn't like that. The Under Armour budget wasn't like that. 55. This nigga acting like the motherfuckers from the 70s. Went to Denny's

the next day and I was reading the newspaper with myself in it. It was cool though. I mean, but I was still young. So, you know, I wasn't on no fancy.

I was 19, man. So, you know, I was just like, man, let's go to Denny's. IHOP or something. Man, I remember you scoring that 55 and the next day I was at home

and I seen you do ESPN. Like, you had ESPN maybe a day or two later or a day, maybe the next day. And I just remember watching that. I was like, this motherfucker really scoring 55 points? Like, I'm sitting there thinking like, this nigga gone. Like, he the one. Like, it was amazing.

I'm like, yo. They blew that shit up, bro. And the way you went at another rookie was your Steph. Y'all was having a moment, but when was amazing. I'm like, yo. They blew that shit up, bro. And the way you, you went at another rookie, which was Steph. Yeah, y'all was having a moment, but when you started, I'm like, damn,

ain't it kind of crazy to see, like, like you playing against Steph at that time, and then see where he is now. Like, I tell everybody, like, that shit kind of unreal,

because I didn't see that. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, to be honest, you know, it's all about,

you know, I'm going to tell, you know, this is for all the youngins, you know, it's all about the people you have around you. That's the fun. I mean, but, you know, to be honest, you know, it's all about, you know, I'm going to tell, you know, this is for all the youngins. You know, it's all about the people you have around you. That's the fun. You know, Steph has, you know, he has his wife. He has good people. You know, he has, you know, he has a foundation. I didn't have a foundation. You know, I was trying to figure out my foundation when I was in the league. And it hurt me because instead of focusing on basketball, I was focused on foundation and trying to make everybody else around me happy when I should have been telling everybody no. I can relate to that.

So, you know, that's why, you know, I feel like in basketball, you know, it's not just, you know, everybody works hard. Everybody got the talent, but it's all about the people you have around you too. And at the beginning of my career, the people that I had around me that was, you know, I was more, if I paid attention and knew what was around me, I probably would have had a better career. Like, you know, things would have happened for me better. Nah, you, I feel like people don't give you enough credit because to me, you were like one of the first guards I seen that was scoring. Like, you always been a really good passer. I didn't watch your game since you was high school.

So I know you always was like, you was a passer first pastor first. Yeah, I used to throw hella dimes But like when I seen you become like a score like you were scoring and shit and like Nick Van Exel always tell me like it's about making your other teammates better. I'm like, but this little motherfucker Milwaukee not doing it He's killing it! Why you keep talking to me about passing the fucking joke? But he's fucking killing. But Nick Vann was a scorer. That's what I was saying.

I used to be like, you ain't watching him. Like, he killing. Luke Rittenhour passing to him. Like, y'all not seeing this shit? And he was like, man, it ain't going to work. He get to do that for his team. And I used to be like, man, I feel like you in this league right now would be phenomenal. Like, you would be a, you already got the fashion,

the brand, like you said, the Gunn VR. You already got the brand and shit. But, like, you as a player in this league. You a little mellow. You Anthony Edwards. The personality. You're bringing on the core, bro, for sure. You would have probably averaged 28, 27.

Yeah. But you got to big yourself up, too, though, bro. Like, your situation in Atlanta was perfect for you. Like, you know, you're like, I mean, so you became an all-star? Yeah, but I wanted to shoot that bitch. Look, yeah. Look, when I came out of high school,

I mean, college, I was a scorer. Like, I averaged Denver 20 points in college. So I'm like, I want to shoot. When I got to Atlanta, them niggas said, go to the corner. Nigga, give Joe, Jamal, rightfully so, they're great scorers, they phenomenal.

But that is not what I wanted to do. But to get on the court, you like, all right, I'ma play defense and I'ma run to the corner. But like, I used to like look at y'all and be like, I want to do that. But that, you earned that shit. You killed, you did your shit. Like you had 50 as a rookie.

Like niggas knew you was one of them. But I used to be sitting there like, them niggas. Man, that 50 came. I mean, I just think the whole situation came out of nowhere. Because remember, I didn't play at all the year before in Rome.

So I was just more on some, like, revenge and just, like, some dark, like, just hostile shit. I seen you in the fucking workouts. Because I was so mad because, first of all, I was getting killed every day. Jay Bill you know ESPN they were just like you know um you know who this kid think he is going not skipping college like you know he he doesn't need an education and it's like well I'm getting the best education overseas I'm learning life like you know I'm learning the the value of life and like what it really you know what life really

means so um I don't feel like I've missed anything what it really, you know, what life really means. So, I don't feel like I've missed anything out in college besides, you know, women and partying. It got, it got greater. It got greater and better though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't gonna miss none. You ain't gonna miss none.

But yeah. No, but I mean, I'm gonna let DJ do his thing, but I was gonna say about our workouts, like going into the draft, you a crazy motherfucker. You was calling people out like you ain't care.

So I say everybody always give me slack for messing with Ricky Ruby on our podcast. I pushed him. I did some shit, whatever. Don't worry about that. I like Ricky. But you called him out and was like, Ricky ain't like that. And I remember being in that workout before the workout came. I got to describe the whole thing to everybody.

You came in with the Louis book bag. I'm from the west side of Indianapolis. I knew nothing about Louis Vuitton. And you came walking in and you put the bag down. And I'll never forget, Tyreek Evans said, damn, you got that Louis. I said, damn, I'm supposed to know what that is. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah.

He said something like 500. I said, damn. This nigga got 500. I'm supposed to know what that is. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah. He said something like 500. I said, damn. This nigga got 500. I'm thinking $500. This nigga talking about $500,000. I'm like, this nigga got $500,000 before? Like, shit.

What the fuck? Who is this nigga? Like, this nigga not a real person. So you start going around like, bro, you better than Ricky. You better than Ricky. You better than Ricky. I'm telling y'all,

y'all niggas is better than Ricky. And he pointed at me. I said, damn. Ricky RuPaul's going top 10. I'm better than him. Shit, than Ricky. You better than Ricky. I'm telling y'all, y'all niggas is better than Ricky. And he pointed at me. I said, damn. Ricky, we're supposed to go top ten. I'm better than Ricky. Shit, I'm staying in this draft. Fuck it. I was going back to school. I swore to God. He was like, I swore to God. You better than Ricky. We did the workout. Tyreek Evans had a good workout. Boom.

Go to another workout in Milwaukee. That's when I knew he was getting picked by the Bucs. He doing his pick and roll shit. I ain't never seen a pick and roll in my life. I ain't do that in college. This nigga carving us up, making us look stupid. Me and Tyreek Evans, we stopped guarding, nigga. I looked at him, I ain't guarding a nigga.

You see that nigga, what he doing? But I knew you was getting picked by the Bucs. I knew you was different when you going overseas, having a chance to learn a game, play like that. I knew you was different. I was like, ah, he going to be good in this league. Yeah, I mean, that year knew he was different. I was like, ah, he going to be good in this league. Yeah. I mean, that year in Europe was just me to mature and see what a pro is.

Like, see what it takes to be a pro, right? So I was around Alan Ray, Andre Hudson. I had a bunch of great, you know, guys that played, you know, in the league or was just from America. So, you know, that was just a year of me learning. You know, just learning how to be an adult, how to be a pro, you know, show up on time and, you know, do things the right way. So that year was just a year of learning. So that's why I always say, like, when I'm done, when tough crowd blows up and I'm out of here, I'm moving back to Italy.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm moving back to Rome because that's where fashion, you know, that's where I learned about fashion and, you know, just about myself in life. So, you know, I would love to take my family and just live in Rome when it's all says done. So, hey, BJ, we appreciate you sliding on us, man. Shout out to Tough Ground. Shout out to Giz Arena. Check my boy out everywhere.

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