Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Bun B, Vernon Maxwell & Tobe Nwigwe HOUSTON LIVE SHOW

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

Club 520's 2025 Off the Court Tour is officially in the books, and it all started in Houston, Texas! Rapper Bun B, NBA legend Vernon Maxwell, and Tobe Nwigwe all join Teague and the squad for their first ever LIVE PODCAST on tour. Bun B talks about his business ventures, classic rap songs, and even raps a song with Jeff and the fellas! Vernon Maxwell makes his second appearance on the podcast and talks about Michael Jordan, and the two-year championship run for Hakeem Olajuwon and his Houston Rockets team. And don't miss Tobe talk about both his football and music careers, and why he's been an early fan of the podcast!All lines provided by Hard Rock BetTimeline:0:00 - Intro2:00 - Vernon Maxwell32:25 - Tobe01:24:00 - Bun B#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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These niggas is freaky. What's happened to be here with your hometown, baby? What's up with it? What's happening? Hey, Sam, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Oh, y'all fuck with him. Yeah.

Ain't this a bitch. For sure. For show, man. You know the vibes, man. Listen, we had to start the tour off right, man. One of our favorite cities. First and foremost, we want to thank y'all, man, H-Town, especially Texas.

It's been one of our biggest markets since we started this show. So shout out to y'all for the support. We love y'all. Appreciate y'all. Yeah, go ahead. Give ourselves a round of applause. Appreciate y'all. For sure.

You know what it is, though? Club 520, live at H-Town. I'm your host. My name is DJ Wells. To my far left, you know who it is. My dog, Bishop B. Heard out of Pireli's. Hey, you what, Nancy?

It's good to Nancy. Let's get to it, baby. That's starting a people's chef. All bullshit. Oh, bullshit. Hey, he's out of pocket, that's right? Nah, because I was... I did that, that's how you starting off?

And it's shacks. No. But these niggins didn't buy my shoes, so that's on them, bro. He lied. He lied, bro. To my right, my doll, young nacho, your team. How are you what? Well, you know, I didn't get the same rapport.

I didn't get the same, you know. This must be here, city. I can't wait until we go to the letter. Fuck it. No, but no, I'm glad to be here at H-Town. This is beautiful. We didn't have a time. I didn't eat soul food, every fucking meal.

Shout out to be here, and my stomach is, whew. That's my fucking bubbling right now, cuz. Where we go? We went to Lost and Found and Shout to Georgia. So shout out of the Great Hospitality. And where we went for breakfast? Breakfast Club. Yeah, stomach's still going.

Yeah. If I see T, exit stage right, don't worry about it. My boy, just getting back right for show. You know, man. It's all good. Listen, man, we're going to have some fun tonight, man. We appreciate y'all. I've got a couple of guests, but first things,

first is only right, we in Houston. We got our dog, OG, my uncle, my dog. Mad Max, Vernon Maxwell, H-Town. Spines in the building. Yeah. Make the noise for my dog. Yes, sir. Mad Max.

Mad Max. Oh, boy. You know, baby. Me, you're on the blast. Right here, right. Freaky Vern in the building, what's handing? God damn, nah, shit. This shit is crazy.

Hey, what to do, my people? Hey, motherfucker called me Freaky Burn, first of all. I got to check my nigga. And now, I ain't no motherfucking freak. I'm a hoe. I want you to call me a whole nigga. I ain't no friend. Why you got...

You go, I heard the shit the other day. I said, damn, I was looking at the shit. And I said, God damn, my nigga said, oh, we got freaky burn. I said, freaking burn. What the fuck freaking burn, nigga, I'm a hover. I'm a ho. But tell him why. It's totally different.

Tell them why you ain't a freak. Break it down. Tell them why you ain't a freak. Well, we just talked backstage. And I told you because, see, see, like, you're a freak. See, called You eat ass And I ain't no freak

Because I don't eat that ass I'm a ho I just fuck a lot of women I'm sorry That's what I do I'm sorry But I'm no disrespect to you women But I ain't got nobody

So I can say this shit So fuck the shit I don't get mad at me Now I'm just saying Some real shit Ah yeah the vibes are already hot We got some drinks for her Yeah we're Barbie

Shout out to Barbie Yeah, there we go. Yeah, damn, let me take this shit off this. I'm going to get out of this. Hey, freaky birds. Hey, freaky birds. Hey, baby. Did you just hear what I just told me?

I'm not a freak, I'm a hoe. Freaky ho. Oh, man, I take that. Girl, good God, oh my man. Shit, y'all did something, boy. Y'all can't have some of a pittish motherfucker. Y'all got an old-ass cougar-ass niggil. I like it.

I like what you're doing, boy, the first show, I'm glad to be a part of this motherfucker. Let's rock and roll. A's town. Yeah. But show, man, listen, first and foremost, congratulations, Big Dog, getting the records back in Florida, baby. Number one, scoring in the universe.

Hey, hey. Put the buckets back on the map. Absolutely, man. That was a blessing, man, for me, just for my mom to see it, man, because I was a fuck-up all my life. And, I mean, I really mean that shit, though. And it's for my mom just to see that shit because it hurt her to her heart because she know how much I put into that shit at the University of Florida. So, but I was just, it was a blessing for just my mom. She's 82 years old. And just to see her, she's still alive, and she's healthy, just to see my mom get to see me, get my flowers. hours like that. It was a blessing for me, man. So it was kudos to the damn University of Florida for they did the right goddamn thing though now. Goddamn, y'all don't feel sorry for old Max. Now I want a motherfucker to feel, never feel sorry for me. But they did the right goddamn thing

and put Max back in the books where I'm supposed to be because one thing I always tell motherfuckers, you can't take numbers. Don't never lie. That's a fact. Where was you at when you got the call that you was, you know what I mean? crib, chilling, and just got through working out and riding on my peloton, telling everybody if you're everybody, like, if you ain't, hey, y'all know what I don't get ready to say. If ain't nobody, motherfucker told you the day they love you, old Mad Max, I love you. That's what I always say when I'm riding my peloton. So I'm on my peloton.

So, yeah, I've got that call on Tuesday, that Tuesday before the last Saturday. And damn, I had to stop ride, man. I brought a little tears to my eyes, man, because I never thought it was going to happen, so it was a blessing, man. I mean, for real. For sure. Listen, I want to ask you this.

This has been resurfaced recently. I know we in Houston, you know what I'm saying? You was a rocket. They've been saying, you know what I'm saying? Once upon a time, if Michael Jordan didn't, you know what I'm saying, take his little. He would have put belt to that rocket's team. Who said that?

Mike. They said, Mike would have beat y'all. He didn't retire. Oh, man, y'all on this bullshit, man. y'all is bullshit Hey man Listen man Listen

We everybody I mean I'm sure Everybody know Well when we played against the motherfuckers I mean they say our championships don't count Because Mike wasn't playing and shit He went and tried that dumb ass shit Try the baseball and shit

Nigger You can't just go and play baseball nigga and just say I'm gonna start hitting a hundred mile now Motherfucker that's not your craft But I We can't help the nigger did that dumb shit. He went and played baseball.

You know what I'm saying? I can't help because Mike went and played baseball and then Lodge Juan was the best player in the NBA after him. You know what I mean? Because I always thought that anyway. We knew Mike was the best. And then at that, during that error, it was dream after Mike. I mean, so we knew that shit.

But, man, just look at the numbers. Like I said, numbers don't lie. when we played against their ass motherfucker and it's numbers but it was taking the ills I mean I love Mike Mike's the best I ever played against

I mean I swear to God but I mean shit but I mean nah y'all rings is yoreans can't nobody take that away from you now but I'm just saying man motherfuckers we try to discredit us for this shit man I don't like that bullshit

y'all gotta stop that shit all these hating ass motherfuckers right here with this bullshit talking about we ain't get the reins and shit I'm about to take my hair loose up this motherfucker talking about this shit because this shit got me fucked up so yeah we got two goddamn rings

okay I mean I know we we believe this and everybody in this motherfucking room we believe that shit but fuck Mike and fuck the car go yeah they were to beat y'all anyway

Yeah, yeah, you were, yeah, you weren't What a hell? Now, I wanted to ask you about this new Rockets team. Y'all got Kevin Durant coming in Houston. K-D, it's a lot of excitement around the city about Kevin Durant being here. You as a former champion, a legend, a Rockets legend. How you feel about this new Rockets team?

Man, I'm telling you, man. I said it already. I said it, all we need is a motherfucker. We can roll the ball out to and just go get me a motherfucking bucket. And we got him, KD. We got this motherfucker. So now we locks up, we play D.

We got, I mean, I hate Van Fleet, went down. That's a big loss for us. I think we've got to figure this part. We're going to figure that shit out, though. I think a men's going to go to the point guard position. We're going to have a big-ass team out there. I mean, we're going to be big. We're going to be long defensively.

But I think we're going to miss Ben. Oh, y'all tell you, y'all liked this. They like me. They liked it. Oh, I forgot. That was O.D. They're going to be long. No, you was like, I'm going to push you up on, Gary.

You was like, we're going to be long. So, niggas was like, you got to chill. You got to chill. We'll give you a pass, OG. We'll get you a pass. Don't pull your hair out. Hey, let me tell you motherfuckers. You hear me?

I'm 60 motherfucking years old up here with this bullshit. Y'all don't hold me on every goddamn thing I say, niggas. God damn. Let Max have a break. Goddamn. Oh, goddamn.

Every damn. Y'all, one thing about motherfucking Houston, but I love you motherfuck yeah, I love all you motherfuckers. One thing about Houston is y'all who y'all had on old Maxie. Y'all love old Maxie and I love your motherfuckers back.

But don't, I might, some might come out wrong, and don't hold me on that, call. I'm old niggas 60 now, all right, I'm 60. I'm an old ass, I ain't no goddamn little I ain't, no, no, I'm chap. I'm old enough to be your goddamn

guy. A lot of you motherfuckers sitting there. Out of a game. There you go, my nigga said. I want to ask you about this new media space you're with, man, joining Stack and Matt. Like, how that's been for you? Oh, man, that's just amazing.

man. I mean, the motherfuckers that one took me off. That's why I took off like a rocket because Matt, Steve, Jack, and then he damn, Jack bought me on to the big three and shit and I mean,

it helps out the brand, the Maxwell brand, you know what I mean? But I'm a part of all the smoke and it was a blessing, man, just to be a I mean, cause, God damn, come on now. When I got on that motherfucker, we we took off. We took the fucking back off, but I love them motherfuckers.

Matt, Steve, Brian, Dylan, I love all the motherfuckers. Y'all don't know the motherfuckers I'm talking about, though, the mother-two motherfuckers. But Matt and Steve, I love them motherfuckers, so, I mean, I couldn't have did it without the motherfuckers. Because you've got to understand. You're something. Yeah, y'all, y'all know I say motherfucker. Hey, your cow from motherfuckers on our first show, the first spot, into them 37. I'm sorry, Goddain.

Y'all want to start, God damn it? Okay. Speak your mind. Nah, but, no, the motherfuckers. I'm gonna. All right. All right, my niggas, slow down. Go ahead.

Okay, but, nah, I'm gonna stop saying motherfucker, man. How about that? Okay, I'm gonna sound different then. Y'all, I'm gonna sound. All right, that's right. Yeah, that's right. All right, I'm gonna talk that. shit, but nah, but now it was a blessing

for the motherfuckers to bring me on that show, man, it helped the brand and, I mean, it's a blessing for me man, just to be a part of that, man. We didn't ready to start back up, and I think on the 17th or 18th we're going to do a live show. So, yeah, y'all tune in and get ready for this motherfuckers.

I see you had a grab stack back there in that locker room, boy. Back in the locker room in the big three. Oh, nah, stack. You know, y'all, you know, stack. You know, that's not going to be stacked. We love Stack. You know, Stack. He's just like Max.

You know, you knicker said something to me like, you know, and, you know, stack them. You know, I love that motherfucker right there now. That's my dog right there. Can't nobody do. No, that's my dog right there. Would you ever coach in the Big Three late at? Excuse me? Would you ever coach in the Big Three?

Yeah, well, goddamn. I think I was supposed to be in there next year. You know, Ice Cube's say he got a job for me next year coaching my own team. So. Okay. Let's look for it. You got to get broke. I want to coach the goddamn Houston team, though.

I mean, I should be coaching the Houston team. You know, I love Calvin Murphy to death. Y'all hear me? I love that motherfucker. That motherfucker fight. Y'all don't know Calvin Murphy. That motherfucker fought worse than me. That bitch was a fighter.

That bitch fought on the business. Y'all just don't know. Just a little Calvin Murphy with all those funny-ass suits he be wearing. That motherfucker is a fucking fighter. I want to let you know. So Calvin Murphy is worse than me. me. So, Calvin told me, say, man, sometimes I think I'm going to get rid

I ain't going to do this shit next year. I said, I was in my mind and I was like, shit, nigger, thank you. That's my motherfucker. I'm a coached the Houston team. So hopefully I'll be coaching the motherfucking Houston team next year with the big three. So, yeah. Yes, sir.

I see what you was trying to do. I'm not playing the big three. This shit doing. If I were in Burdening the team, we are signing you. you to whatever deal Vern want to sign you to. You will be playing on

Byrne too. That is your strong point going on. I'm his agent, Vern. Why the fuck he think he might agent? I'm his agent. So anything you want, if it's looking slim for the roster, you got a player.

Oh, I take that nigga. That nigga. Yeah, nigga. Hey, you're a man, wow. Yeah, me. Yeah, me. I take this nigga anyway. Hey, hey, prayer them went down, boy, you ready?

Yeah, he's ready. Prayer don't went down, you ready. Damn, boy, you'll be a good feeling, boy. Man, y'all better get Russell Westbrook. No, for sure. Oh, G. I'm going to be sitting over there with you. Hey, you got a chill.

He got a chill. He got a chill. 55 is crazy. at least double zero respect now listen you was in Houston as it was developing

y'all was winning what's the difference between the city how it was back then and now when we were winning oh man well shit I mean

well it took a minute for us to start winning I mean because I mean when I first got here shit we was like

I think the first y'all was here and like I'm an old ass all just stop listening to the motherfucking years

I'm talking about I got back here y'all motherfuckers probably wasn't even born a lot of you motherfuckers out here so I was in like 89

when I Damn! I was one we grow up as hell and who damn that's right this is the fuckery shit I have to deal with when I'm on this

motherfucker I get to see I that shows my age and shit and I'm sorry this is fuck I am. I'm sorry.

But, no. But I'm sorry. What we was talking about? Because you know I'm old now. Tell me what we were talking about again. Say it again. How does it look different for you now? Okay, that's what the fuck we were talking about.

Okay. I forgot all about that goddamn question, boy. Okay. No, the city is different because, no. But back then, but when I first came here, man, we wouldn't doing shit. We was like 41 and 41, some shit like that. That's what we was doing.

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because I don't think I don't know if you all know who Don Cheney is just a nigger head coach you know Don Cheney Yeah, a legend He the one had enough balls to bring my Crazy ass in here to Houston And I got

San Antonio got rid of me Because I was fighting all the fucking time Up there in San Antonio in these motherfucking bars So Popovich told me, motherfucker he was the general manager The motherfucker you keep on his bars fighting, who won't get rid of your dumb ass? So I kept going in there fighting.

And so, and then they got rid of my ass and Don Cheney. I got to get Don Cheney to tread. But the difference in the city now is that we Rudy, he kept a lot of us together. We had a bond.

We had like, it was a core. We had like a core of guys that he kept together. that he believed in, and we just, and he kept us together. And then he put Robert Ory, and he put Sam Cassell. And then he, you know, he put all those other guys like Carl Horel, that nigga hit with the weight upside the head. And all these other motherfuckers.

You know, Mario, Ellie, my boy, kiss to death. Mario, love you, boy, you know that, Mario. And Sam, it's my guy. you know so but yeah but they kept together and then we brought them the guys together and then it was different then we knew it was gonna win shit we started at the damn season 23 and one come on now what the fuck are we talking about we started at them 23 and one so and then we knew it was a special team at that point but then now but now you want to i'm talking about this team now the difference in the city now but when we won the shit you couldn't even go up down that

motherfucking street. What's that goddamn street? Well, uh, Sam's boat. What that shit called? All up down, Richmond. You couldn't get up and down Richmond. That shit was blocked off. So we couldn't get out to locker room. So I said, you know, I had Max. I sat in that motherfucker. I was blowing.

What was the club? I was blowing. I was blowing. I wasn't that you niggas get out of the way. I was in my goddamn Ferrari. I was like, goddamn. I can't go out there with this bitch. I left that bit stuff I stayed down all night

to about two, three I was just blowing I was just blowing Oh you had a Rory back then You had the Ferrari? Yeah, all right Wow Oh damn

Talk to him Oh damn What was the clubs like Yeah how was the night life How was the night life When you was like? Night life Oh shit man

There's a lot of them out here I have part of the scenes Oh my head part of the same Oh my They Tell their mom's You didn't text all their momas Yeah

I think You don't start Just shit Yeah Not of the shit Nah Night life was great for me I mean

I had a great time in Houston Houston It's my second My home You know I'm moving back here In December Probably not

So I love I love Houston, man. We got the beautifuls women in fucking Houston, Texas. Oh, my goodness. I love some Houston women, man. Y'all some beautiful-ass women. God bless y'all, moms and daddy. O.G., we need you, though, you know what I'm saying?

Teague, they got a little bit of a beef of Robert Ory. We need you to settle it, man. I don't got no beef with Robert Ory. That's Jeff. Hold on, I ain't got no beef, but, like, pause. I was like, I just said, I didn't even say nothing bad. I just said nobody really cared that he won that many rings.

It's not talked about it. Hey, hold up. Jeff, Jeff, please, man. Jeff, please. Nah, Robert Horrie. Nah, I call him a freak. Let's see.

Oh. Now, you're going to put that on him. You call him the freak, so he didn't want to get him to please. Yeah, when I call him freak. When he was a rookie, he was a freak. But it wasn't a, not literally, not literally, because let me let me repeat

because Robert No Robert over here like You know Rob, Rob, you know Rob, Rob, when you hear this shit You know what I'm talking about When I called you freak athlete

Yeah, I called him freak But Rob man, Rob was a But not But don't No You're crazy. Don't never discredit, my nigga, Jeff. That nigga did, that nil's a big shot Rob.

Yeah. That nigga got seven rings. Yeah. That motherfucker was a killer. And I hated one. We traded him and brought him back and shit. You know what I mean? But I was glad we brought him back because I swear to God.

And we wouldn't have bought him back. We wouldn't have won that ring, man. Because Rob was so big for our organization, man. I swear to God, man. But no, Jeff, stop. No, no. No, I wasn't discrediting his game or what he did. I was just saying, like, he wasn't that popular.

Like, if some other people would have won seven rings, it would be a little different. I was like, if J.R. Smith would have won seven rings, he was more popular as a play. Well, because, you know why? Because J.R. Smith, Vernon Maxwell, and all us niggas, we out. We out in the streets. Rob and Horrie. Rob, big shot, Rob. Rob, go hit a big shot.

Rob go lay by his goddamn people. What are we doing the night? What do you want to go eat? You know, Rob don't want to do all this shit. You know, what I do, I hit a big, I hit a game winner. Shit, nigga, I'm in 4-5 motherfucking clubs, strip clubs, all this shit.

Hey, baby, I know you want me tonight. That's what I'm saying. I know you want old Max tonight. I want you too. God damn, because I was a hope. I was in a goddamn divorce court. And damn 94. Ninety-five.

Shit, nigga. the playoffs. I was in the voice court. I was dealing with a bunch of bullish shit. You know, I'm trying to 5. We won that motherfucker. Nah, I feel you because near my I hear one game with her in my life

man. You went through that shit, too? It was up. Wow. Magic City, I would have that motherfucker going to tilt that on on me. Hey, boy, that shit fuck me up, though.

in the poe house. Oh, man. Yeah, but I did it to myself. Have you seen online that they made the custom Utah jersey with your name and number on the back of it? Boy, if you do that shit,

boy, we're going to burn that motherfucker. This motherfucker talk about Utah jersey, man. Fuck Utah. Them goddamn white folks harass me. Talk about my mama, talk about my stillborn daughter.

The motherfucker did so much to me over there in Utah. That's why I keep them motherfuckers under the radar. Absolutely. You're talking, my nigga. Fuck. Motherfucker, Utah.

We got a live show in Utah next month. Are you coming? Are you coming back? We all going on the next month? Yeah. Y'all going to bring me back? Yes. Shit, I'm there.

I'm there. I'm there. I'm there. I'm there. Fuck this shit. I'm there. I'm there. I'm there.

I'm there. I ain't scared of no motherfucking body. I can't hear you. I ain't scared of nobody. What you said, my people? Tell them let them find that dump up. Oh, I want to smoke that goddamn marriage of wine. I want to smoke it.

Nick, let us smoke. Hey, where the fuck I'm at? What's the name of this goddamn hall? House of Blues. Huh? House of Blues. Y'all got to start breaking some motherfucking rules. Well, y'all got mad max in this motherfucker

because y'all ain't getting the best out of me yet. I got to smoke that goddamn marriage of wine. I got to have it in the long. See, I'm fucked up right now because I'm a goddamn keep drinking, man. God damn. He said stop playing naked. Make sure it ain't a reggie. Yeah.

Sit your ass down, man. Come get this, my nigga, Cam. Hey, this, nigga, we gotta test that out for him. That nigga might try to kill me. That might have some shit in that motherfucker. That might have some motherfuckling that goddamn

crack in this stuff. Nick, he's going to give me a joint. Like, I'm going to say, hey, hit that first, Cam. Let Cam die. Shit, I ain't going to god damn. I love it, though. Hey, nigga. You're a real one.

I love you. Only 5.20, bro. Yeah, 5.20. You know something. You said, what? He said D.J. shake something. They go, what? And this thing is dying, like?

What the fuck? And that nigger said, yeah, D. Oh! Hey, what's all you, boy, man. My nigga used to be a backup dance years ago. We had to make that shit on board,

dude. Hey, I love that shout. Don't start that shit. Oh, yeah. These niggas scared. Don't be scared to go lie. What's next for you, though, Max? What's up in coming to anything?

You want to share? I got, uh, shit. Me and Bubba Dub finish the show. And, uh, shout to Bubba Dug. Okay. Yeah, I got, I got some shit coming up. All the smoke. I'm going to, you know,

basketball senior red star back up so all the smoke and um yeah I'm gonna do that and then I got a lot of man damn man I'm a blessed old ass nigger damn I can't even believe I'm getting all these flowers and shit so but I mean at my age man I'm 60 man yeah so it's a blessing it's a blessing for me man listen OG we appreciate you as always make some noise for freaky Vern free get out here one time I'm y'all y'all y'all have a little intermission there be here for the people passing out shots what they drinkin on be in oh you got to have a mic oh my bad sorry that motherfucker liquor kicking my ass already

when you put the shade well you put the shades though that's a dude of me here is sweating here boy did my life no damn this thing's so good got to keep the fat niggatail this is and the story. For show, baby. We're going to keep this show rolling. Shout out to y'all. Man, our next guest, one of the finest

to come for this city, man. Entrepreneur. Intertainer, rapper, all the above from the city. Big Dog, Mr. Toby.

Wingway, makes a noise my dog. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Alert, alert, alert, alert. Yeah. Yes, sir. Age time, what's going down?

What's happening with it, my dog? Appreciate you pulling up on us, baby. How are you living? Oh, man, let me tell you something. When y'all, when they ask me, would I come up here, I really don't fool with a lot of niggas. Because, you know.

But when I tell you, y'all niggas be having me so weak online, I was like, oh, I got to. I got to pull up, bro. That's absolutely much, yeah. I really fool with y'all. I didn't took time away from, yeah, my wife and five kids. Woo! The five I'm good on. I could take time from them.

Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't, you know what I'm saying? I might not be able to wake her up when I get back. No. Respect. No. We've been there. Lord.

We come from that same soil. Come on. Niggas know how they be getting home, baby week? All right. Oh, man. Wow. Two K it is. For show, listen, man, we want to start off from the origins.

We ain't going to talk about the music first. We heard you was like that in football, though, before I said all your thing cracked off. Yeah, let me tell you something. I was, but it don't mean nothing when you play for a sorry team. I've been there before Yeah Yeah, mine was a little worse Yeah

I was a defensive MVP But we went one in 11 Woo How the hell you win that award? I tell you how When we was 0 and 9 And we was about to lose To Western Kentucky

I called an interception On the one-yard line It ran at 99 yards To make us 1 in 9 That solidified the title right there Unanimous, FPP Come on, unanimous, come on He's the only one that got us one

No, for sure, for sure What position did you play? Middle linebacker Okay Yeah, I've been the same size Since college I ain't went up or down I just stayed the same

Yeah, okay Come on Well, it ain't really like that You know what I'm saying You ain't never just North Texas You know what I go I'm just saying I got love for it

but I'm just saying we can't just get out there with everybody just throwing up their sets No, we're the same way I'd be like wait for or something like Before I ask me where that

was at one time I was like damn That's like damn Oh God Now for sure I want to ask you Just obviously speaking about The family early on

How is that like moving around Because you go everywhere With your family Which is honorable It's appallible It's time though, especially being an entertainer. It's got to be a little bit of a headache

or a little bit hard to maneuver with everybody. Well, yeah, it is now. But it wasn't as much. When I was a child, two child, three kids, once we got past three, now it's like, yeah, it's an entourage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, now we need more help. But because I ain't have no foreknowledge

of how to maneuver in the industry, it wasn't really nothing to me because I really love being with my people, and I don't, I can't stress this enough. I really don't like being around niggas like that, especially people who not like, you know what I'm saying, I don't really know I'm like that.

So I really feel good when I go out to places and I'm, you know what I'm saying, with my family. Now I ain't bring nobody here because I knew it was, you know what I'm saying. Respect. It's going to be some real, you know what I'm saying? Fat, this ain't fat environment.

Yeah, my wife don't really be on. She'd be like, I showed her like two clips. It was really behind that, really, Damn, man, I'm all of, man. I love Toby. Hey, you had showed our clips. I love you. I show.

Hold on. Tell me, why would you say that he's supposed to do that backstage? Which clip was it? I showed her the clips that this nigga was talking about the WNBA. Oh. I thought you were about the same. I'm never about it. Oh, my mama, you better not say that shit,

because that's probably the other one he showed. You're talking about that basketball clip. We teach you something how to dribble. I couldn't do it. I ain't talking the rest of the show. Come on. You're in pocket. Yeah, y'all legendary.

I thought we were lying. Come on. No, for sure. I want to ask you this, we're going to jump around a little bit. How did you get in Transformers? Nick. Nah, no, listen. No, this is crazy, bro.

Yeah, make some noise for that. My dick was in Transformers. Brough. And then, so when they hit me, at first, when they was like, you want to be a Transformer, I thought I was going to be like, oh, yeah, look, oh, snap, Nick, it's the Transformer. And then I'm like, but I was cool with it because I'm like, man, I ain't never did nothing ever in my life. I don't got no IM, DB, whatever you say it, I don't have, I ain't ever had that or nothing like that. But the director of the film, the director of the film, Stephen Cable, Jr., his best friend was a huge fan of my music.

And right before they started shooting the film, his best friend. best and he reached out to Paramount on my behalf. Well, not on my behalf. We're really, and told them to like, hey, I really want Toby to play the role of the character who, like, embodied his best friend in the film. So when they reached out to me, I thought it was like, how do I explain it?

I thought niggas was pranking me in my email. No, no, because, like, in my email, you'll get stuff from, like, I don't know. Whoever, Pike, I don't want to say no name, but like, whatever big name, and it'll say, like, such and such big name at Yahoo. And it's like my nigga. I know watching McCall ain't got no Yahoo Password. So I got the Paramount stuff, and I thought it was a joke.

So when they sent the stuff and it was like, it's real, I had never did no audition or nothing before. And if we had a video or something in my audition, And when I tell you, top tier, trash. No, I'm talking about, bro, terrible. I didn't know what the hell. I'm looking at. On the phone, I'm looking at the lines.

I'm recording myself and looking at the lines. And I'm like, sing. And I just sent it in like that. So I was like, bro, there ain't no way in hell they're going to really want me. I was just, I just did what I could do. And when they hit me back, I was like, dang, that's crazy. hit me back. But then they was like, this was like the height of the pandemic. So we had to go to Canada for like two months in quarantine. But I was like, yeah, we just had a, we just

had my second child. And I was like, yeah, I'm just not really, I never wanted to be an actor no way. So I was like, yeah. So if I come, I can't leave my wife and my two babies. So they're going to have to come quarantine with me. And when I sent the request and I was like, we for sure not going be able to get in no transformers. I ain't done Zell. I ain't got no resume or nothing. But they was like, we cool. So I was able to bring my wife, my kids,

and I ain't have to, you know what I'm saying, be abstinent or, you know what I'm saying, whatever they were talking about. You know what I'm saying? I ain't have to understand. The real quarantine. Turn the radio on. What show? Honey. That's a crazy pickup, though, bro.

Was you, like, nervous? were you I was because I never did no acting like that ever in my life

so what people don't know about movies and what hell I didn't know it's not like

a play or something like that or like a rap when you have to memorize the whole thing and go out

there and just be uh like you know what saying like Tom Cruise

or nothing like yeah so I didn't memorize the whole the whole packet like the SAT

that's all I got my reference for you know what that's on you're a test too respect

yeah so I'm doing, I'm memorize everything. When we get out there and they're like, no, no, no, just these two lines. I'm like, nigger, you line. I swear to God. So I start, when I find out it's just

two lines, now I'm in that whole comfortable. I'm cooking. This thing. So with my stuff, I do all the direction, the clothes, the costume, and the I write all the stuff, I got to produce the stuff, all the stuff.

So when I got there, all I had to do was read them lines. So I'm in that whole feeling like, oh, be here. I ain't going to lie. I'm in that whole feeling like you. That's all I got to do. I'm doing the lines and I'm cooking. And then I'm going so crazy

because I just, I feel free that the, I ain't a lot. The white people was like, yeah, bring that nigga back. No, no, no. They was like, hey, Because I only had a couple lines, but I was going so smooth that when they did the, like, before they put the movie out, they show, like, they tested with, like, smaller audiences. The smaller audiences was like, hey, where's the one, where his best friend at?

That was doing all the line, yeah. So they flew me, they asked me to come back and do some pickup shots or, like, add some shots to the scene. So I cancel my whole European, I canceled everything I had going on. I was like, Nick, I ain't ever been in Transformers. Yeah. But that's it Y'all make some noise for that dog You had to break that down

So what was that transition Like leaving the football field defensive player of the year Now we're tapping Into this music Ray Lewis You know what's crazy I really felt like I was really

fend to be African Ray Lewis Yeah I really felt like that Right. Be careful. And then it's way worse with Nigerian parents, nigger. You have no clue. When you don't make it, oh, naked.

I thought I was going to be African-R-A-Lewis. I ain't get picked up by nobody in the draft. My mom was like, yeah. When will you stop whist in your life? Damn. But when I was like, they were putting my name in the paper like, oh, he could be drafted. I'm talking about,

my mom was running hands from me. You know my son is going to be. Brud. A nigga ain't making it. It was like, when will you go? I get a joke. I was like, dang. Dang, cold blood.

So, yep. And then when I told I wanted to start a nonprofit, it was, yeah, bro. That's even worse. Honey, you know. What are we doing? Brum, call my dad down. You know, you know,

son loves poverty. Yeah. I seem to get a job. He wants to do nothing for profit. Ah, bro. It's crazy. It's crazy. So, yeah.

So when did you get out that fuck? Niggins? Like, when was it? Who was she proud her son again? A nigga was depressed for about a year. Had to be. I'm talking about I walk in a house on some, like, Hey, Daddy, what's going on?

Just from like, you know, just a long day of just trying to figure out what my purpose was. My dad was just like, you still don't have that job. I'm like, dang. Upon a rival, it's crazy. Like, niggins ain't say hi? Yeah. Yeah, how was your day? None of that.

Still don't have a, yeah, it was crazy. No, for sure. No, so it lasted for about a year. Then I started my nonprofit and was just going back to the high school, trying to pour into the, uh, the students. as best as I could with the gifts and little talents that I had. And then I was able to reach out to E.T., the motivational speaker. Eric Thomas.

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And I ain't have no foreknowledge of the industry, how to make no music, how to write no. no songs, do no videos, none of that stuff. I just applied everything that I learned in football. Come on to win that MVP. Go. Yeah. Go. Stay down to you tape down. Now, that's kind of crazy, though, not to even think about music for real

and then and be where you are now. I'm talking about the most I did with music before I really started doing it, the most I did with music was freestyle in the cafeteria in the locker room. I didn't can't dine I didn't came through Come on But niggas no Come on, stop playing

If you're from the age That's how you start off 95% of your wraps Hold on we're not from the age How I go? Oh I didn't Come I didn't drop the beat

No no no No no no Stop Stop right Stop bro Yeah I didn't come down I didn't come down

Yeah How they came through Mike Popper in a hallup Yeah All right Stop playing Come on No, I just been here a couple of years

I left as a younger I was six months When I was If we're starting to listen You know what I'm saying? This panel, we take pride and take care of our feast. I see what you got on today. I want to.

Come on. You got them shit on today. And we're a begging podcast. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a big. For show. I want those. Yeah, yeah. No, I got you.

You were 12? Yeah, I'm a 12. Yep, these are you right here. I hope you, nigga don't play. These you right here. Yeah, go here. No lie, yeah. Come on.

This ain't being planned either, yeah. Oh, yeah. These motherfuck is wet. Yep, come on. 100% that's the 12 straight off my feet yeah

I'm gonna let you walk out in them though no no no I can't walk out in years because I got a reboc contract no no no we respect the Nigerian linnies put the motherfuckers

we're gonna we know my fucking school walk around barefoot go let me know I ain't gonna lie I want the motherfuckers Come on. I ain't stingy with it. I'm not stingy. I give.

Yeah, I need them. All right. Come on. But listen, I'm going to get them later, but, like, be here and said, we don't leave out here like that. Come on. For sure. How many different colorways you got to know? These ones had two colorways that came out, and then we did a colorway for friends and family.

It was fat colorway, but you only got those if... Locked in. Yeah, fat food with you. yeah we still got a lot of those at the house can you tell wife yeah I know she could come to the show today but like be here they're going to get up with her

like I mean now how did that come about the how did you come out of collaboration and also with Mount Clear as well it's it dang yeah we locked yeah we tapped it yeah come on I was going to ask I want the coat

I want the mint coat it's really all my all the things that that have happened I'm not going to lie the stories really to me even when I'm when I say it them whole sound insane it's just because I don't feel like I don't feel like they inspiring like that because it's like you know this is random as hell what with the Transformer stuff they fly you out to

promote the stuff now mind you I'm not even really supposed to be on a promo tour like that with them I wouldn't really a main character today brought me back and start doing the extra scenes. So now I'm on a promo tour going to Singapore, London, China, I don't know where else we went. But when we was in London, I'm cool with Daniel Kaluya. I don't even know how to hell that happened.

That's the dude from Get Out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. And then he hit me up and told me to come through his crib to just holl at him. He had a couple people over there. And now I'm in the U.K. like that, and it ain't a lot of niggas that I know

in the U.K. like that. So, I pulled up, and when I pulled up, it was some random nigger just posted in the corner of his like in the kitchen when I walked through. And I walked through in a whole bunch of like Pierre Maher stuff. And he was like,

the nigger name was G-Day. He was like, hey, uh, I was like, yeah. but I feel like yeah because of a nigga and all the stuff

that he do is fire yeah I support any nigga who I hear doing it and it's live so yeah I'm like yeah he was like oh snap that that's live he was like man I really fool with your stuff I was like man appreciate it he was like yeah nigga you want to do something with rebut

I said nigga like that yeah I do want to do something with rebut he said all right cool I'm gonna reach out to them they probably would love to work with you I'm gonna hit you back in like a week

or something put your number in my phone and I was like this must be what just happened in the UK or Hollywood or something I said this nigga line and in a week and a half they called me and it was like

yo we would love to work with you and that's how it happened that's it you know what's crazy come on I like Reeboks you lie so I haven't for you

Shit, I take these motherfucking drawers off right now Come on Come on I bet for sale Everybody, if y'all watch the pile I wore scantress one day I've been Oh, y'all he lying?

Nah, that's his ministry Yeah, I bet to sit for a man You ain't wearing no motherfucking scratchers We're telling them we can't story Why the fuck you always do that shit Oh, whoa, hold on Who said they go on T-Ti-T-T-T-T and refurb these sketches

It is Hey, going T-T-T-Time and the Reebok Boy, you're an authentic for real. You're going crazy. Hold on, I'm going to ask you this. Have you heard the T-Tong? No, what's that? Oh, don't worry about it then.

Don't worry about it. But look, while people be sleeping on sketches, I went to the to the, like, the footwear awards, which was crazy. but look everybody was trying to clown sketches when they won their

like environmental award but I looked up their numbers ah them boys getting to it oh no no no I wasn't clowning I was ready they said they didn't want him because he cussed too much you said what they didn't want him because he cussed too much

I can see that they said my language is a little yeah I was like damn how can I go global But tea time, Toby Teague time started one day Hold on, nigga

he didn't ask about that Come on, come on Toby family now Come on, bro So Hold on, he just shook his hand 10 times

So it was a group It was a group of studs On Twitch And they all just had on Hold on, they were right there They had on the jersey They had on the jerseys With the switches

No draw Oh wow Wow. The switch. That's switched up. Hold on. That's right. Hold on.

That ain't what happened. Dang. Hold on. Somebody said they was wearing my jersey. Kevin. All of them? No, no, no. Hold on.

Oh. I don't know how it happens. We do a little streaming. Shout to my nephew Mout. Freaky Mout. Yeah. Okay. Freaky Mout.

You know Freaky Mout. There you go. Shout out. Yeah. So Freaky Mout was doing a little streaming, and some dude wrote on there and said, I got a T jersey on with no draw. I don't laugh, don't laugh. And it went by the-old.

And it started an epidemic. Child to Kevin. Love who you love. Yeah. It started an epidemic. So I said, damn, my husband. That's what I said. And that fool over there said, no, it's Kevin.

It was. It was. Love who you love. We don't describe it. And that's just then. They didn't go crazy. They start this mess. And they're talking about

we're having a Tiga Ling Halloween. Tigger Wing. For sure. They buying, that nigga jersey. And I was like, that's cool as long as I can wear a rich box. Come on, come on, come on. No, hell no.

But nigga with the Teg jersey and the reeds is crazy. Yeah, we ain't going to do it like that. And now that's a mess. Hey, that's a player of shit right. How long have you, like, as fashion always been a part of you, though? whole life?

No, I was tacky for the first half of my life. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, a nigga had to pull me to the side and say, hey, that ain't it, big dog. Yeah, you got it. I love him, man. Nah, nah, no, for real shit. Yeah, a nigga was like, you really got,

you really got the juice, but the way you represent yourself, yeah, that ain't it, boy. You got to, like, yeah, put it together. Do you remember what outfit you had on when that nigga walked up to you? Yeah, niggas probably had, no, listen, listen, I do. Don't laugh yet. I got you. Listen, yeah, nigger probably had on one of them,

Alicia Keys' fedoras. Yeah. Now, I won't tell. You know, I don't usually look like this outside my work clothes. Come on, stop playing with me. Stop playing with me, bro. Yeah. Yeah, what's wrong with this, nigga, man?

Yeah. Yeah, and then, you know, the boys was in the, the fitted, the fitted, the fitted shirts. Ah, hey, you horny, motherfucker. Yeah, I ain't going to lie, yeah. Y'all really laughed. The horn dogness just went crazy. Can I get one more? They went crazy.

But just run on here. I just need some water, baby. That's it. Don't run. Don't run. This water, it's nasty. I think so. It's nasty to serve fast.

I'm happy that you hear Toby Bob was so. She said she was so excited to serve fat No shout out to fat We love you I appreciate it To the family Yeah Shout out to it

Yep Hey I love him I ain't gonna laugh That nigger fat would have been like Yeah that's nice I mean I ain't go No disrespect

My nigga fat would have been like Yeah Shout to the family But that's crazy fast for you know what I'm saying Your homie puts you on game It's where basically you got your own color pastel And like that's the standard How's that like where everybody know that color is your color?

Incredible now And it really just It really kind of happened Because like before the pandemic A nigga was just low key If you go through like Some of my older visuals A nigga was just like testing colors out

as I was doing it and I was just trying to stay in a little monochromatic theme and I was just trying to figure out the best way to just present the stuff the way I wanted to and when the pandemic hit oh right before the pandemic hit we did a video at a museum of fine arts the Rienzi location yep they don't really let niggas in like that yep that's why I ain't nobody clap like that because we was late too yeah yeah Okay, I ain't never been there I hadn't been there either But once I did a couple songs

Then the niggas wanted to let me Hold on Unless somebody here from the museum I was like that's a story Yeah I'm gonna tell my truth Yeah they ain't really want to let me in like that Then when I did a song

With a couple famous people Then they wanted to let me in So when they let us in to do a video That they had a room that was all meant And I was like This is when me and fat was still in an apartment I was like fat when we get a crib I'm gonna do one room

this whole color just because this whole made me feel like fresh and then we got a crib right when the pandemic hit and we couldn't go outside and I just started running all the videos through that crib and bought mint clothes and then just wanted to make everything look a certain type of way

that's how it all happened for real nigga be like hey what's the meaning behind that color I'm like yeah I just liked it that's it thank you so much it's definitely fire for real appreciate you that's why them come up with me

Yeah, come on. I tried to take them on. Yeah, yeah, for show, for show. I'm a fan of basketball. Go ahead. What did you say? They always want DJ to dance. You know what he said?

Something crazy. No. You said it's the wine? What did you say? He said the cry baby. The cry baby is wild. Yeah. So if you don't know, DJ was a break dance.

No, I know that one. I know that one. He was a break dance. Oh, no, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. He used to put the cardboard down and get crazy. So ever since we discovered that, when a young blood dropped,

you don't give it down your ass? No, let me stop. Hey, I got DJ fucked up. Hold on, who the fuck was that? But anyway, I forgot the fuck I was going to say. Because of your ass. But, uh, damn, you think. I'm a cheap house, she waved a five, baby?

What Dr. Umar said? Make the 20 next time. No, but I wanted to say, I think it's funny as fuck. But what I want to say, I've seen you work with my guy. I'm a Steph Curry fan. I got drafted the same year with Steph Curry. And I've seen, y'all got a video together,

Firestone, Fire visuals. Like, what was that liking, what was that like working with Steph Curry being a part of that, him being part of your video? What was that like? People don't understand about Step, Steph only do a few things, but the few things

that he do, he, the way he do basketball is the way he do all them things. So look, so when he had to do the rap for the video that we did, when we got to set, he was like, yeah, bro, I didn't went over my part like a hundred times. I said, Nick. But he approached all his stuff,

the exact same, and whatever he's not into, he don't even try to act like he into it. Yeah. That's what I love. When they had all the outfits and stuff from the choose, he was just like, and which one you feel like it's going to be the best in the video.

I was like, no, no, no, no, no. It's really on you because I don't care. And I was like, on my nigga, you're Steph Curry. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I don't care, bro. Whatever you want. And I just couldn't believe that nigga was that regular. And it was like, yeah, and he's just, he real cool people.

Now, he ain't no, I don't know. You understand what I'm saying? But he don't like try to be, you know what I'm saying? You know how most people, if they ain't street, they're like, try to act tough or try to act. Nah, he don't even do none of that. It's like, he's a real, like, nice guy. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying?

Like a regular guy. He's a great guy. I'll tell you a story about Steph Curry. Come on. I have, Steph Curry was one of my friends, and we was all American, all Americans together when I was in college. Yeah. And I had 19 years old, Jeff Teague.

Yeah. I was like Byrne. And he wasn't like that. He told me straight up. I got a girlfriend, and I said, we're going to the club. It's me and James Hardin. Shout to the J.H. I said, me and James Hart, we were ready to go to the club,

and we were going to the club, and we were going to, we were clubbing. Come on. And he said, nah, Teak, I got a girl, and I don't want to. go. I said, what the fuck? Because you y'all think, he was the most famous out of all of us, right? It was Blake Griffin. It was him, Blake Griffin, then it was

James Harder, and I was with the breath of us. You know what I mean? And he was like, nah, I'm cool, man. I like my girl, and I said, yeah, he don't know how this is about to go. But to see them still together and doing that, man, I said, boy, you are a solid man. Come on, bro.

I was. I was it. You know who else? Like that? Who? Calvin Johnson. Damn. Bro. Let me take it.

Megatron. I did the shop with Calvin Johnson. Yeah. And when he was talking, I was like, bro, he ain't have no super struggle story or nothing. And I was like,

see, this is what niggas need to hear. He was like, yeah, my mom work hard, my dad work hard, I made good decisions. I was like, yep, I need all my. sons to watch you yeah because he was like the hood going to look at my man like ah

that's kind of that nigga was at the camp saying listen bruh talking to his talking to all the kids at this camp he was like hey listen six six ran four four four three i'm an anomaly the majority y'all ain't gonna never be able to do what i'm doing read your books Damn. No, for real, bruh. But Ricky Williams there, what's buddy that went to Michigan that was up for the highestman? wide receiver.

Charles Wilson? Braylon Edwards. Braille Edwards. All the top, Tori, hold, everybody there. He's like, hey, listen, read your books. You probably not going to be like us. I said, see, that's what I didn't need to hear, because I really thought I was going to make it,

but a lot of niggas on my team. Niggas on my team did need to hear that. Yeah, I probably. needed to hear that shit. Yeah, but he one of those dudes who got just a solid dude make good decisions, and

I feel like that's what we need a lot more of the show. I want to ask, what's that feeling like when you get that Grammy nod? Man. Come on, man, clap that shit. Yeah, make some noise. Niggins make an answer out here. Yep, I felt like that was fake, too.

I thought they were like. I ain't going to lie. I felt like they were lying about that, too. And even though I tried my hardest with all the stuff that I do, when they said that, because you got to understand, I'm not with no label. I ain't do no, like, lobbying for it or nothing like that. So when they told me I got nominated for Best New Artist,

I was just like, dang, yeah, they should have never let me be this successful by myself, and then I'm with my people, and I did it the way that I wanted to. So now I just really feel like, yep A lot of people can't tell me nothing about nothing that I'm doing, bro. I feel like I live in immaculate life, nigga. I'm not lying to you. You're in your own lane, bro.

Yeah, thank you, family. No, for sure. You and your own lane. Yeah, come on, bro. Now, I want to ask you this, though. Yeah. I know you're doing shit, though, low, cool. Come on, don't say that crazy, bro.

I'm not. I got you. But I'm saying, like, do you ever think it's anything or do you think you would ever join the label or is that just not this is the thing because I'm independent niggas be thinking I'm like

against being with a label and I'm not people be asking me should I be with a label should they be with a label and I'm like yeah you probably should because if you try to do

what I'm doing the way I'm doing it the majority of people would die it take a whole lot I did I like really bro I direct all the

direction the writing the producing the clothes the, it's a lot. The majority of people who do music don't really do that. They got,

their specific talent is making the music. But outside of making the music, they need, they got a team of people that could come in. And I would have had a team too if I had some money.

No, for sure. Yeah, but I didn't have on money, so I had to tap into all my gifts. But I just wanted to ask, I don't want to cut you all, but I know a lot of people just always just want to go

to independent route because they don't want to share no money or they don't understand the logistics behind what it costs to being independent. it. Let me tell you something. After I spent all the money that I spent making them last videos, yeah, bro, I was like, what they offer?

You like us. Yeah. I'm probably. No, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. I'd just be wanting people to give, like, when they come on our platform, I'd be wanting them to give, like, real game. No, if it made sense for me and what they was offering could cover something that I, it was resources and it could help with what it is that I'm doing, I would partner with a label and do something. I'm not coming in like somebody who hasn't built nothing who just has a talent and stuff like that, so I know I have leverage in my situation. And my situation ain't going to be like everybody else's situation. But I wouldn't necessarily do it like

that early on in my career because I'm a real practical person. It just ain't makes sense doing. But yeah, yeah. It just depends on what kind of goal. It depends on what kind of goal. you got like my goals have always been to go be global yeah so I've amassed a certain amount of whatever it is that I was trying to do in the States but yeah I'm trying to go yeah yeah I didn't seem a lot for show yeah yeah that's a fact for sure listen man we appreciate you man for you get out of here tell the people what you got coming next what I can look forward to I got another project coming out sometime at the top of next year but

even bigger than my project, my wife about to do a solo project. Nice. Yeah. That's crazy, because ain't nobody clap when I said I got something. That's crazy. You know the real love.

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I did what I just did because I'm really like, nigga, this is wild. So it ain't came out yet. Hold on, when is this going to release? Y'all putting this out right now? It doesn't matter when. Maybe. But can we be in your next video? 100% I'm fine

I'm not fine I listen I just I just I don't know We ain't doing that We ain't doing that totally I'm wearing a mint

Mink Come on It's going down I just Partnered with Monclair Yes And did my first

No Did my first My Claire Thank you It don't get cold I forgot Thank you I did my first ever

visual with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. Wow. Damn. Come on. Come on, I promise you,

bro. You're doing a bunch of big shit. Come on, bro. Now, I know that's your face now. Come on, bro.

That's crazy. Come on, good fellas. Come on, that's a fact. That's crazy, bro. I was up there like, it's crazy.

Now, they hold. Dirt. They're all the muffing. So you better get away you can. Hey, this is my kids, though. You're going to have a kid. Bro, listen.

This might be their last time on film together. No, I'm being here, for sure, for sure. Brough, top of the line, and they cool down the earth, everything. But it's about like, yeah, it's coming out, like, when it's supposed to release? Huh? Yep, my team ain't even there. Yeah, it's all right. That's crazy.

Top of the morning. Yeah, coming soon. Yeah, coming soon. Yeah, that's something I just did with, mind clear, that's coming out towards the end. this year and then we got some more stuff happening with Reebok, we just renewed our contract two more pair of shoes and I ain't never been in the league or nothing.

Yeah, that's love. That's love, pop your shit, yeah, make some noise to Toby for sure. We definitely appreciate you, bro. We appreciate you, man. Man, make some noise for DJ PimC and B. Swift going crazy. Making the vibes right right now, man, for sure. Our last and our final guess,

it's only right, man. We in Houston, Texas. It's only right. We got the man to help put this city on the map. The legend. the OG Philanthropist rapper, entertainer, the one the only, Mr. Bunby. Bring my dog to the stage for show. Yes, sir. We got a legend in the building, big dog.

We appreciate you joining us on here. I got packed in this hole. I just been on the side, just kind of chilling, so I ain't really see. And y'all been quiet than the motherfucker if there are this many people in here. Oh, it's quiet. I mean, they laugh when they crack. I ain't know this hole was full. I didn't know y'all.

Oh, yeah, we're kind of packed this motherfucker out today. Shout to Aishtown, baby. Shout to Aishtown. Yeah. I like it. I appreciate y'all pulling up for the folks, man. I appreciate that. Don't embarrass me in front of my company.

You know what I did? This is his second hometown. He was born here at, what you left? I left at six months, came back at nine, left at 12 months. And then I came back at 27. You just keep leaving shit? I'm in and out. Yo.

Yeah, it's crazy. Welcome back. No, for sure, man. We appreciate you for pulling up on us, man. Take your time out. It's all good. I wouldn't do another. I'll just be at the house. I did my burger shit for today, so I ain't doing shit.

No, we had some burgers in the back. in the back. That ain't going to lie. The motherfuck is slapping now. I had a burger with no one. You know, yeah, I smack that motherfucker. That's what I'm talking about.

Now, we had to address to be his request from you, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, he put it in his order, but it was a little too crazy. You know what I'm saying? We had to make sure that was a little not too flavoring for your liking. You know what I'm saying? The buttered a bun is crazy. I just like butter buns on the burger.

There you can go with that. Yo. Hey, you know. I didn't see the post. No, because I've seen the little clip when he's like, yo, I just want to make sure my buns is buttered. I'm like, man, what kind of dude? They can't have me.

A bun, bun, don't do me like that. You know when you put that. Don't do me like that. You know when you put that motherfucking, when you put that motherfucking butter down and slapped that motherfucker bun down for 10 seconds and pull him off? It's just the way you phrase him, I got you.

What I'm supposed to say? You talk for a living. You should have known a better way to get that shit down. Butter to bread. Yeah. Yeah. Respect. Respect.

You know what's crazy, O.G. He's a caterer, you know what I'm saying? My boy really get like that in the kitchen, so he should have known the terminology. That was the problem. You're home. You know we don't be buttering no bugs. That's about town shit.

No, for sure, man. I don't want to jump too far ahead. We're going to get into it. But, like, I do want to ask, like, how was that jumping into this, like, food industry? It was wild at the beginning because a lot of people thought this was, like, my burger that I created. but it was a friend of mine approached me.

He was like, man, I got this burger I'm trying to do. I can't do it in L.A. because smash burgers are already jumping in L.A. So I wanted to try to catch it in Texas. So I was like, yeah, whatever. So I pulled up. I tried the burger. The burger had like caramelized onions and pickles and I don't eat that shit. So, but I ate it to see if it was good.

And the shit was actually really, really good. And I remember coming home to my wife and like, hey, I just tried this burger. It's the best burger in the world. She's like, what's on it? I'm like, shit, meat, cheese, onion. pickles. She said, you ain't eat that shit. You don't even eat that shit. You hate onions. How are you going to tell me that's the... She said, wait a minute.

Just onions and pickles? I said, yeah, ain't no lettuce, ain't no tomatoes. She's like, what kind of burger is that? What the fuck is that? I'm like, you don't have to try. And then after she tried and she understood what was going on. And then she got behind it, and we just been mashing. And I thank everybody in the city for really jumping behind this burger for me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because y'all pulled up to all...

Up at a spot. Shout to my boy, Jay. All-Stars Bar and Grill, Indianapolis. Y'all had them slapping out there in Long. For the All-Star weekend. Yeah. Long was down the street. That was crazy because they literally, the reason we had to go to his ball was because they banned everybody in the city.

So typically when All-Stars and Super Bowls come to the city, they have a certain area downtown where everybody go and come down and, you know, enjoy all the festivities. And around that area, you're not allowed to sell food outside. Okay. A lot of cities, they make it like a clean zone. So people don't leave trash on the street and shit like that. So we had paid a bunch of money. You know, we had paid for the rights to put the All-Star logo on the food truck and all of that.

And then as soon as we set up, they're like, yeah, y'all can't sell food here. So we kept trying to figure out somewhere. And then that boy, he was like, hey, y'all come cooking my shit. So we went cooked at his shit. The city came out. It was dope. Yeah, that's my old head, man. He got people was in the city for sure.

I'm probably his old head. I'm everybody old-headed at this point. Yeah, I'm about to say, man. Now, for sure, listen, man, one thing on this tool we wanted to do is bring Naptown to us. I mean, excuse me to y'all, but you know what I'm saying? You got a lot of ties in Naptown. You didn't been there a couple of times.

I show you a lot of love. What's your experience of me in the city? I used to go out there and rock with Stack. So, you know, it used to be wild trying to calm Stack 5 down because any of the others didn't really have a lot to do. Mm-hmm. So they kept going to this.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, gee. I fought with you. I don't know. I'm talking about for a stack five. I don't mean that, because I've been going to get money in Indianapolis for 30 years.

But what I'm saying is, for a young stack five, it didn't have enough to hold him. So, you know, it's not a lot of, it's not a lot of light life available to black people. So he's going to the same club every weekend all the time. That's the true. Shout to Coach.

Shout to Cloud 9. Shout to Sunset. Hell. You're a fan. You're a fan. You're a fan. Somebody knows when we be going. I'm not out to set.

The lights coming on, I can't see you. No, don't worry about no one. And I'm my only shit. Don't turn the lights on sunset. We're going to keep that damn. But then Stack used to always, you know, act like Stacks or eventually he ended up getting into it with somebody out there. That was always a thing because the Napa ain't no joke.

Like, I've been in Nambinapolis a lot. The niggas do not play. And y'all, it always be the same. Every time I go, it'd be the same one club, A new nigga just bought it and tried to put money into it and then they come and they fuck his club up and tear shit up

And then they're not My Uncle Derek That's my uncle Derek How they do it is It's the same club We just remix the name It's a dope-ass club Like it's a big ass club

Like y'all stage by the big as this stage And the venue bigger than this It's a big nice-ass club And y'all just don't get tired of can that bitch up. Just inside the parking lot, everything. No, for sure. We've been to a couple of classes.

Hey, you know what's funny about this? Because the host of the club is right there. A dick, you just sign their home. This is the reason. He's literally at every retweet. You ain't have to bring your vest here. No, for sure. Now, listen, I want to ask you, obviously, this show,

we love shoes too much, and you are the man when it comes to footwear and sneakers. Obviously, you know what you got on right now. I wanted to ask you, what was that first moment like where you were able to design your own sneaker? That came through Jordan Brand and my guy, Reggie Saunders. When they reached out, we had All-Star that year, and I had been rocking with Chris Paul for a long time, and it was real cool. And they asked me if I wanted to design his practice shoe. And I was like, yeah, let's do it.

So they flew me out to L.A., to the house, and I went sat down with Chris. I went through his closet, and they showed me everything that they make for this dude. Most people don't know. Every time Chris Paul went to a different team, they made him like a Jordan 3 and a Jordan 11 in his colorway. When they didn't know what team he was going to, they just did like four colorways for every team they thought was going to take it. So I went in his closet, and he had all these goddamn shoes that the devil came out.

He was like, what size you are? I'm like, I'm like, I'm 10 and a half. He's like, damn, I'm a 12. I was like, that's what I meant. My bad, my tongue be tripping sometimes. but um we sat down we designed the shoe and i remember they seated it to a lot of different people that weekend and kevin hart actually wore the shoe and the celebrity all-star and won mvp in my shoe that's fine that's hard that shit was different you know you got to understand like you look at

2025 and i'm glad you brought up sneakers because i don't know any other city that has more people with their own sneaker that's not athletes like Megan had Nike's Travis been dropping Jordan's and Nike's for several years Toby got his rebock My guy Les, he's a rapper from here L.E. Dollar, baby.

Yeah, he got his deed is dropping. He just showed his friends and family shoe. I made Jordans like we, you know, Houston makes some noise out here. Like for real. South of Aishtown. Okay. Just Paul. Clause. You know

I'm saying? Yeah. See, no, get on his ass. Y'all got one more time. Whoa, whoa. Y'all got one more time. I ain't going to put that smoot on my boy. He didn't see me close. Shout to my dog, Chris.

I don't want this to be what I'm in front for. I just want to look at the shoes. Like you, I just want to look at the shoes. And shout to him. He had, obviously, he was Jordan brand. He got every drawer and you could think of in color ways that we can never imagine. But I don't like how DJ delivered that. Yeah.

That's how crazy. We're walking a thin line up here right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's not about me. We got a legend here. Get the fuck off that. My fault, my fault. You know, this is the first time I've been in here

that don't smell like weed. Boy, see. I'm saying up here, I don't know who smoking out there. You can't smoke with me, niggins. They got to live. That shit, man. Yeah. If they were quiet in here, they said, that shit.

Me here. Y'all shit got that Indiana wig. I have a lot. Somebody passed Vernon to join early the show, and we have not seen him since, so maybe it is good. Uh, Vernon that passed out. It's Cam still alive.

We get everybody in the queen up here, everybody on probation or something out yet, dude. Listen, this shit going down to Indiana. Shout to Mark Sanchez. You're tired up with your bow legs. Pired that bitch up. I got a like it, dude.

Show me something. Yeah. You're talking that shit. Show me something. Oh. You're on the spot, nigger tap in. He's like.

There's all. There you go. Not though we're square, Nick, no, this fucking wish. For sure. I want to ask you, what's the difference

that you've seen in the city? Obviously, you helped build this city. What's it like now driving through the city and the evolution of the city? It's paper. Like, that's the thing.

I see so much money coming in Houston. I see so much. money being made in the city. And as an artist, this is the best opportunity ever than any artist has ever had to make money in this game, because you used to have to go

through, like, a record store, you used to have to be signed to a record company, you used to have to play on the radio, and people have to go in and buy your whole album. Now people can buy, you can get famous on one song. You can even have to drop a album. You can make one fucking record, make a couple million dollars and go send home.

Somewhere in chilling. People to make money off of what they do. because it used to be hard as shit so I love seeing that and everybody around here riding good everybody got you know big houses and shit your money go a long way in Houston if you do it right and I mean we just I mean we really

eating right now it's really crazy the producers the rappers everybody they understand the business because that's what we really wanted people to understand the business of the game like making music that's the easy point most people can make a decent song but figuring out how to make money off that shit is the real thing

because the game is set up for everybody to make money off of it but you. So you got to decide whether you want to be famous or be rich, because sometimes you can't be both. That's the fact. What was that marketing tool that you used, though, when you started with your music? I know it's way different.

Like, you can just go viral, like you said, off one song. What strategies is y'all used to get your music to the streets or even to a bigger platform? Being in the streets, like being outside where everybody be at, you know what I'm saying,

going to the club, putting flies on the car, you know, passing out snippet, business and shit, asking people to buy your regular. We had to go hand-to-hand to get this shit early because we didn't know nobody in New York. We didn't know nobody in Los Angeles. If you couldn't get to Jay Prince and get a deal with Rapalai, you was out here

trying to get it. You know what I'm saying? But because of that, everybody had to understand the business to make the money. So when New York and L.A. found out that we was jamming and wanted to sign deals, most of us wouldn't even sign because they weren't offering no real money. They'd be like, well, we'll give you $2 million.

The nigga, like, Slim would be like, we just made $2 million. really doing for me so that's why a lot of us chose to stay independent but when we did we didn't go in as artists we went in as companies so instead of just giving me a record deal now we got to do a joint venture or something because i'm bringing money to the table the reality is most most people went to a record company because they didn't have enough money to do it they sell i'm one of them you know what i'm saying we did it independent but we wanted a bigger a bigger portion of an exposure so we ended up signing with a label but nowadays you don't have to sign a with no fucking body.

If you got some power, you got a little paper and you don't need a lot of paper. Really, you buy a laptop, that shit got a little mini studio in it. I tell people you go online on YouTube, motherfuckers giving beats away just to be on somebody's album

because they know that I'll bring more paper. So you really ain't got no excuse to not put your music out, but it's going to be on you whether or not you make money off your music. No, that's... Can I ask you? Because it's like, do you still,

I know you're a legend? Like, you're a real life... The most legendary person we had on the pod But it's like Y'all had Max? You didn't y'all have a man max here? Oh, well that's cool. But I'm saying, he's probably got that wave cap on. What am I get?

He really, he's, he was outside tonight. So I'm going to call Max when we live here. But as an artist, he's probably the most legendary artists we had on the show. Man, not just we think. Now, make some noise. God damn. Yeah, I appreciate it.

some noise. Barbie, when I'm talking your ass and walk out here, God that's all right. Respect. Yeah. Respect. Shout out to Barbie.

But I'm saying, like, you're a legend and we, obviously, we respect you and we love you, whatever, and that's all good. But I'm saying, like, how is that? Like, being a superstar legend, when it comes

to that experience, being in Houston, like, I don't know how that feel and I'm trying to see how I feel for you like to come out here obviously the fans love you or whatever but it's like how is that it's different to Houston

I go everywhere and I see how cities treat their artists and it's really it tripped me out because once you like get 10, 15 years in the game they really don't fuck with you like that in these other cities but in Houston they give us love every time

we show up you know what I'm saying every time we pull up people come right and we don't I don't think we have that the people do because most people see me in the city okay you catch me in H.E.B. You might catch me in the Galleria you know what I'm saying? Catch me at Costco or some shit. I'd be outside of most of the people. Ain't nobody trying to hurt me in Houston. I'm everybody uncle for the most part. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And that's how

it is. You know, slim is your cousin, Paul Wall, your white home boy from school, you You know, but we don't have their separation from people, you know what I'm saying? Because Houston, somebody's going to bump into you. You can't hide from people here. In a big-ass city like New York, maybe you can get around if people don't really see you, maybe L.A., Atlanta, or whatever. But in Houston, somebody going to see you pumping gas or something like that, and it don't make no sense for you to act like you all that, because the nigger might just pull a boy and be like, hey, what's up, B? Then I try to high side on it and he blah with that.

whole ass nigga, I bought your burger like, you're in a real city and I love the fact that I don't have to walk around with four, five niggas so people can't come up to me because everybody want to show love. That's all the one they do is show love. Now I smell the weed. Yeah. Job well done. No, that's right.

That motherfucker smelled like K2. But anyway, That motherfucker's Marks some gang This motherfucker K-2 Y'all's pulling that motherfucker That was a weak A little bitch

Oh, respect God damn I said I was a bit bored Look at you all that He pulled up all we got in there Well he tripped out of Indianapolis Nican a nigga trip out for Houston Fuck that

For sure Why y'all always put me in y'all board shit I'll be trying to be up and be cool. I want to ask you this question. I know for us in Indianapolis, there was a time where like Houston music really, really took over the city. Our DJ Specialized and stuff like that as well.

I want to say like that, 2002 to like 0-6-07 area where y'all had every artist in the city was mainstream going crazy. Obviously you and Pimp already going crazy. You had Slim Thug, Powwaw, Camillionaire. What was that era like in the same? obviously is still popping and throbbing but it seemed like that moment everything just clicked

we were wanted to have fun we was the niggas that looked like they was having fun at that some things look like they was acting hard like they had a bunch of money like they was tough they got a bunch of ho we looked like we were having fun yeah we did these big ass calillacs riding around with them big ass styrofoam cups yeah you know what I'm saying smoking them swish the sweets you know what I'm saying riding around the city chopping screw popping trunk you know what I'm saying and we looked like we was having a good time. And in 2025, this way everybody, ever since then, this way everybody want to be.

Everything that's popular in music come from Houston one way or another. You know what I'm saying? This way everybody wants to come and have a good time because we're doing us. We're not trying to act like nobody else. We got the baddest bitches for show. Hold on.

Whoa, whoa. You know what I'm saying? That's the show. That's the show. That's the show. Y'all wouldn't be coming from, Y'all wouldn't be coming from Miami to go to camp in the dome and all.

I don't want to hear that. Y'all come from all over the country. Y'all are written cars and shit. Y'all were just in the mall that purple. I couldn't even go get no purple for this show because y'all was in the mall getting the purple. Looking for the whole. We love purple.

The gang. You know what I'm saying? But we got some real niggins out in here. You know what I'm trying to hate on nobody. Let you get your action. If you got motion, do what you're going to do, you know what I'm saying? We're going to all turn up together. I ain't going to lie.

Y'am all lit. You're all creaked up. Y'all's my guy in purple. Shout to the purple. This is a sweatsuit. I ain't. I ain't paper. It's good.

I ain't a lot. Y'all. You know, I'm looking out for you. Cutting for you. Putting some clothes on your back. Yeah. Good food in your stomach. Hey, Tripp burger in the back.

Free sweatsuit. Lord. Hey, I ain't a lot. I'm like you. See, I'm not. I was trying to write a day. Ever since the world got a taste of what do here they can't stop they cannot say even through COVID motherfuckers like I'm leaving here

it's too strict I'm going to Houston they're outside that's not a pocket that's not a pocket no I was out of it doesn't stop but it ain't live oh gee that ain't good I want to ask you though I know shit ain't stopped but that ain't good you're out here sick as hell you're like shit stopped we're good they're passing who could each other sing the motherfuckers at the table got cold. I want to ask for. When I was in Atlanta, that would only want to stop here.

I wouldn't. Oh, Atlanta was lit. My house was lit. He got, look, let me tell you. No, no. No, go ahead.

Be here. We're here, man. Let's talk about this lame-ass nigger. Nigger had a party at his house. Everybody walking through that motherfucker.

He got these nurses putting the shit other people knows. Whole time, this is the whole ass thing passed a COVID around to the whole house. Listen, I ain't know

Shout to me, Kenney gave me COVID I didn't know I had it It was before the party You know, it took 14 days It was Kina had gave it to me a day eight I didn't know Respect, respect

Fuck him Now I want to ask though It's like Houston Responsible for Dragler How did you like Introduce yourself Like how did you and Drake Had that relationship?

Oh, it was a jazz prince reached out to me I was in the studio recording at the time I had been in all week and he's like, man, I got this artist I need you to fuck with him I need you to get on this song and all week I was like

yeah I'm gonna get to it I'm gonna get to it but I was in the middle of recording my album I had some shit I needed to do for me and then I was walking out the studio I never forget the door was open I'm walking out that hole

and my phone rang and I looked and it was him and I was like damn you keep asking for this song and I've been knowing jazz since he was like you know in middle school and he never asked me for nothing

I always been a good person and I was like I can't do nephew like that. So I turned around, I went in and did the song, and then probably two weeks later, he came here. But first he went to, he was at NYU, and it was a whole crowd was women.

It was like no dudes, and everybody singing word for word. Then he went to Atlanta and did the same thing, and he was even more women in that motherfucker. So I started showing everybody, like, y'all see, this nigga, this knick is really blowing the fuck up. So while I'm showing it, my gal looked like, who is that?

I was like, this is Drake, this dude I did the song with. She was like, oh, okay, what did it sound like? I played the song. She's like, oh, we're jamming. Well, we don't have to go check him out. So her and her friends went, we came here to Warehouse Live, and the man went on stage, and everybody's singing the song, and I look at my gal, and she's looking at this nigga, like she's supposed to look at me. I was like, I don't know if we ever really

had a light-skinned nigga like this in-rap music. Everybody's job might be threatened right now. But he was cool, he was real down-the-earth, man, and consistently come back. You know, he bought his hall weekend in Houston. He did a lot for this city. He came in and turned this city up for a lot. You know, a lot of the dancers made money, a lot of the D-Boy. Everybody made money.

The city was always wide up every time he came to town. And, you know, I know people have mixed emotions about him right now. I grew up in the area where you dance with who you came with, you leave with who you came with. Absolutely. I fuck with everybody. I don't have no problem with nobody. That's why even though I'm friends with a lot of people

that get drawn into a lot of situations, niggas don't bring me into their business like, you know what I'm saying? And he's one of them, you know what I'm saying? Like, he know I fuck with everybody that he don't fuck with. You know what I'm saying? And he don't really make a big deal out of it

because I fuck with everybody. It'd be different if I was just like, well, yeah, I fuck with you, but yeah, I like Pusher. I've been fucking with Pusher. I've been fucking with Maller. What niggas got going on, ain't got nothing to do with me until somebody pulled me into it, you know what I'm saying?

But you're like the legend, though. Like, we don't, like, if you was beef with somebody, I'll be like, huh? I'd have to have a real good reason to beat with somebody because I couldn't even imagine. For real, I really don't be giving a fuck what people do. Like, I don't

think people know that. Like, I really, I really could care less what people be doing. I'd be at the crib with my gal. I got grandkids and I can't be in middle of the street with my shirt off, my chest, trying to box, I ain't got time for that shit. We did all that. Did you see that potential for him, though? Like, when you met him, that he could be, like, one of the biggest in the world. No, no. Well, I knew the women run this

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You know what I'm saying? And he worked hard. The man worked hard. than most people. That's why he party as hard as he do. You know what I'm saying? Because they put a lot of work in. People don't never see the work.

You know what I'm saying? They never see the time that people put in for their craft to try to really make an impact in this shit. And he wanted them people, man. That's one thing. People like him, Beyonce, even like a Cardi B, they outwork motherfuckers. Hard work will be talent when talent don't want to work hard every time. Absolutely.

He sounds like my old coach. God damn. Get your ass in there and give me 24. I ain't worked for. I was there. I want to ask you this question, obviously, man, you are legend to us and you made some timeless, timeless music.

I'm just running through a couple of songs. I want to ask, if you have any memories about them or how that came about. First and foremost, I got to ask personally, Diamond's and Wood, one of my favorite songs when I get them out of school and I need to turn that deck on, I need to feel that vibe.

What's that moment like when you make a song like that? Do you know instantly it's like that or does it after you get the reaction from the people? That was Pimp. Pimp wanted to try to make a song that felt like what a screwed down song felt like. You know what I'm saying? It's the whole idea of diamonds of wood

is actually being in a car riding through the city listening to a screw tape. That's what the vibe of the song is supposed to feel like. You know what I'm saying? I flipped through the avenue I'm looking good, banged screw diamonds up against that wood. That song feels like what it feel like when you ride through your hood, bang it screw

at night. You don't have to be in a big slab. It helped. It helped it be in a nice slab. You know what I'm saying? But then you got to watch your back because people will kill you for them rims. They will kill you for the rims. So it's an amalgamation. I don't want to put no big ass words like that out there. But it's a mix of everything that we love about

that lifestyle, but everything that you have to be careful and aware of at the same time. All ready. Donnie? I know you're a legend. You probably don't know about Teague Town. Hold on Teague, I'm

gonna tell you about Teague Town Come on So Teague Time is something that happened on the internet We were streaming I We were My nigga

We were streaming And somebody literally was like On the stream They were like Y'all I'm going Teague Time And Teag Time basically was like They're going to wear my jersey

With no draws That's what the y'all was talking about what I walked there somebody said something my niggie got a t jersey on with no draw I'm trying to turn around I was like this I ain't signed up for this shit right we ain't doing that listen I hope he got escorted out immediately I ain't that niggins that I ain't on that type of time I could say never never so whoever out here with no draw some I hope she beautiful oh it's women doing it I hope it's definitely Lord I hope I hope I'm Stude with the

motherfucking switches on Listen Hey, hey, he always got to do that shit Respect, no, bro, look He said what y'all got me Mixed up in with these young niggas Nah, embrace the brand though Bro, it's global

Halloween about to be lit, bro Yeah, it's gonna be lit But I hope they ain't got to switch this Number one play on two K right now It'll be on T-T time for Halloween Yeah It's called Tiga Ling I don't knock on my

It's not called It's right here right now Yeah he said Tiegling That's a wild Pause Tegaling A follicle bra

Oh no Tegal wing My nephew told me That's what it's called No It's Tegaling Tegaling is some shit I'll made up

That's crazy Shout to my wife We're not doing that We're not doing that With one on the stage though I'm not watching You a bitch game

For this shit Shout to my wife She called Tigaling I'm gonna drop off I'm gonna cut my porch light off on Hollywood nah for sure I'm cutting my eyes off too if they come to my shit with that shit

I throw the egg at them I told you people come to your house with jerseys on with no drugs man oh it's on the way it's on the way bud listen because he want to keep talking about it shut the fuck up if you shut the fuck up you're laughing at be here because he ain't rear moore right now Listen, I've been out of places and people, I've been out to eat, just chilling.

People come to me, it was like, hey, I'm wearing no draws on Halloween. I'm like, I'm like, I hope your girl love you. Like, I don't know. O'Gina got so bad on 2K, the number of playing 2K right now. I got the team jersey on with no draws. That's a fact. How much more time we got got? He ain't wrapped your shit up.

I feel you, boy. I don't want to keep talking to the nigger about no draws. Keep it moving. Hey, that's why. Say some old songs, my nigga. No, I do. I do about him. This ain't about him.

Fuck him. I want to ask you, though, like, how do you feel about, like, the music industry and where it's going right now? Do you think it's like an upper... I think it's in a great place. I think it's in a great place. Because, again, people get to make real money off of it. People get to pick and decide exactly what they want to fuck with.

Because for a long time, record company is a push music. down your throat, you know what I'm saying? Radio stations are push music down your throat, pause. And it don't have to be like that no more. Like, y'all can go on the internet and look up, it's a thousand motherfuckers releasing songs every day all around the world. And it might be something that you've been waiting to hear or the way I'm a motherfucker talking about something

and they'd be like, see, that's what I'm talking about. And you can fuck with that. And you can find a community of people that fuck with it. So you don't have to feel like an outside and the only niggis. That's what the internet does. levels to playing field and give everybody the same opportunity and I love that Houston been taking advantage of

it, you know what I'm saying? Not just with the music but social media, you know what I'm saying? Houston been doing a real good job of building their social media presence. People like Little Jeremy, people like Walker, you know what I'm saying, even the newcast like Doc, you know what I'm saying? They're taking full advantage of the motherfuckers. So from that point on, it's just about

how hard you want to hustle for what you want. And Houston is really getting to it. What I don't miss about y'all is the music videos like the big pimping and shit like that I think that's the nostalgia we're missing like the money is definitely better but that was a million dollar video like you ain't gonna see that type of ain't nobody doing that

but Taylor Swift and motherfuckers like that video was a million that video was the first video. Your verse on big picture hold on all right don't worry about can y'all play big pippin his verse on big piffin talk to me I couldn't slay the slats

that video a household like That was a household Already Because Eva What's her name? Eva? Was it a

What's so girl That was on Joe Button Podcast She didn't Be careful Yeah Melissa Yeah

Melissa Gloria Valise It was a Yeah I know Was you a part of that Like Putting it together

Or did you just pull up And was like No no That's a Rockefeller record So they put All that shit

together I just showed up It was like Damn Yeah Okay But I was already married, so I couldn't. I was just

that. Shit with the window dresses for me. You like me with this. Like, we'd be out out of town. I'm married the motherfucker. My wife be with me all the time, so I ain't my wife's on there coming. Out of the gate. She only ain't like me like that. Oh, shit.

He's going down a dark road. Listen. Stop telling these bullshit-ass stories. Nick, Big Pippen is a legendary video. It's crazy, though. We shot that in Trinidad, we shot at Trinidad and Jabago. We shot for like three days. But Pimp never showed up to the video.

And, yeah, he never got on the plane. He was in a hotel room with like four chicks. And he was like, I ain't going on to a lot. Hold on a song because now I'm really loving. Now that's my favorite song, so he never came to the video. He never came, he never got on the plane and went overseas. The whole video was supposed to be shot overseas and he never got on the plane.

So we had to go to Miami where he was to finish the video. Oh, that is fire. He bought the car for the video. So he bought the convertible bins for the video. And they pulled up with me and coats in the car. Turn it up. This is a live show. Hey, get this shit together so they can play this goddamn song.

Shout out of that song. Yeah, what are we doing? They play that motherfucker? Fuck you. Yeah. I didn't do this. Okay. Boy, do you think, like, that's missing, like, in today's world, though,

that time and effort put into the music videos? No, I don't think it really matter in that sense, because don't nobody really care about a lot of that shit. People just want to see you in your element. Yeah. That's why you see a lot more videos of people just in their neighborhoods, you know what I'm saying? People don't really care.

Every video that, who was it? I think Chief Keefe was it? They shot every video at the house. they did you know what I'm saying like every single video in that apartment they shot that hole

at the house they don't nobody care as long as the song jamming finito we don't give a fuck what the video look like that is true

we didn't want to blow New Jersey up like nah that's a fake that's a fake that's a fact I think that them being on like

106 in park and shit like that it was just a vibe for our generation that's what I'd be trying to tell myself like y'all don't understand how important

like Scotch even From the producer's standpoint, like Scott Storch and them, how important they, Timberland, how important they was to the music industry and shit like that. And it was just, it was different to see us included in a lot of the major shit happening. Yeah. Because of the South, you know, we kind of had to find our own way, but to be on a record with somebody like that who had the biggest budgets

and all the exposure and all that type of shit, and we just showing up, you know, Texas niggas, just like, what, it's whatever. You know what I'm saying? I remember we was the last song at Summer Jam one year. We brought us out at Summer Jam. I was like, how the fuck we end up at this motherfucker? Like, you know what I'm saying?

And we never had to change nothing. That was the beauty of what me and Pimp was able to achieve. We didn't have to change nothing about who we was to become who we became. Like, we just kept it solid. Kept it trill. And people recognized it, connected with it. Yeah.

You and Pimp grew up together? Like, how do you have a relationship? We made it around middle school, like around seventh grade. Okay. That's true. He's one of the hardest to ever do it. Like, for sure. No, period.

Period. There'll never be anybody. like him. We would be in other people's, we'd be, like I give you example, three, two, rest of peace, three, two, K.

The album was jamming. And the last song he played was one day. And he was like, yeah, but that's just so I don't think I'm gonna drop it it, it's too slow. And people are like,

you're crazy, that's the best fucking record you got. And he was like, yeah, but niggas, I want to hear that. People's like, give me that motherfucker. I'm gonna show you.

And one day, still to this day, is a record that everybody's like. You know what I'm saying? He would have an ear for shit that niggas did. Niggas would have hit records they couldn't even recognize that they had a hit record. Pimp would have to tell them

that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? He would give people beats. He would give people hooks. But more than anything, he gave people game. You know what I'm saying? He tried to let people recognize the talent, the power they had in themselves. Because Pimp would talk like he could do anything and he'd have you feeling like you could do any

motherfucking thing too. And to be honest, it wasn't much that we didn't achieve just because of the fact of how much he believed in what we could do. You know what I'm saying? So all I did was just ride shotgun with my nigger, hold him down, and everything we dreamed of and eventually happened. Come on, baby. Lawlett, DJ PimC in the building.

How was them studio sessions, man? Yeah. I needed to know about them studio sessions. Legendary, legendary. Land was him the motivation. Was you the motivation? How did y'all even call you to it? This song came out of the penitentiary.

So Project Pat had an album. Yes, sir. They had a song called I Choose You. he rapped to this exact beat. And it was Pimp favorite shit while he was locked up. So we came home and we started working. We was in LA at Paul House, at Juice House, I'm sorry. And they playing beats for us.

You know what I'm saying? We're like, let's do some music. Them, the homeboys, we was actually working on an underground mafia project at the time. So we was going to put UGK. and 3-6 Mafia together, and we was going to be up. And they were playing beats and Pips say, man, I want to rap to that mother. motherfucker Pat had. They were like, what you're talking about? That I choose you.

That motherfucker that man, that was rap. That was a hit record. Y'all need to drop that hole again. They were like, man, that shit. Oh, man, that's a hit right now. Give me that motherfucker. This is the second time. Like, give me that motherfucking beat.

And that's what we actually made out of the motherfucking song. Now, the crazy thing is the songhead 3-6 Mafia own the song. Like, there's a version of Players' Anthem with UGK and 36 Mafia. They had just won the Oscar. they tried to renegotiate their record deal and the record company put them as a rap group on the bench like y'all can't drop them

we're not clearing nothing but as producers they deal with separate so we can still use their beat but we had to take their voice off of it so that's how they got off of it and then Outcast eventually got on it separately so like one nigga got the song in LA Andre got it in LA

Andre got it like I like it I want to rap to this if y'all ain't done I was like hell no we ain't done because Outcast wasn't even what group at that time. So he's like, I want to rap to it, but I don't want no drums on my shit. And then Big Boy got it in Atlanta.

He heard, I want to rap to it, but I just want to rap to the drums. That's the kind of group they were. And neither one of them knew they was going to be on the song together. Hold on. Hold on. You all had Outcast on the song

either one of them knew they was going to be on the song? No, they weren't working as a group, but as a group they were signed to my label. Oh. We was all on the same record label at the time. So once they found out, They wasn't tripping about it or nothing. But Andre kept saying, I'm not doing no video.

He was like, I'm going to do this song, but I'm not doing no video. I'm not doing no video. So when we decided we really needed to do a video, I say, bro, we're going to do whatever you want to do. Tell us what kind of video we're going to show up. It's your whole concept, your idea. So that's what happened. Can I tell you something? Absolutely.

I played that verse when I got married. You should have called me. I would have pulled up. No, you bought a costume. See, I wish I would have known who by there because, Lord, that part cost me an armolid. I don't work with you. I don't work with you.

I probably knew about, I played that song when I got married. That was what I walked out to. That's a fact. I walked out to the Andre 3000 verse or whatever. But I'm saying, like, that, that's something. Do you tell me that they didn't know that they was going to be a part of that? That's, like, an amazing record. I'm glad they ended up agreeing to do it, you know what I'm saying?

Because Andre was really acting at the time, so he was really on some different shit at the time. But we got a long relationship. We haven't been partners for a long time. And everybody had already agreed. Like, they had already rapped on it. So it was like, fuck it, let's just do it. Yeah. So they agreed to it.

And it's still one of the biggest records for me. I just did it for Mona Leo and Stunner for Vegas with. Like that I popped up. I just showed up. did it. That's hard. That's hard, well, what the fuck you

ain't shrubs tomorrow? Lord, that weak-ass DJ I had. But see, you cleaned it up because you had it wasn't my cousin. Nah,

but you had pimping them to kill that shit for the afterpillar. Oh, that was my after part. Hey, my niggins killed that motherfucker. This is the greatest DJ in the world right here.

DJ Pimps and we bring Indianapolis to God damn the name threw me off. I ain't going to lie, the name threw me off. No, no, no, no. It's an obvious thing. He's a legendary

Your brother He's named after that That's amazing No for sure And he put the two E's on it To keep it separate I like that Yeah

He's no disrespect No No disrespect Pay homage to When you doing your runs And shit Your tour Do you perform

Pimp shit too? Yeah I allow the crowd To be a part of the show At that point Because you know I'm not the only

motherfucker that Miss Pimp We all Miss Pimp You know what I'm saying Yes And y'all been Supporting me through, you know, through my journey with Pimp

and then my journey after Pimp, y'all ain't left me hanging. Y'all stuck with us. Y'all still love me. You definitely still love Pimp. And so, we're not going to act like he ain't still here. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll celebrate him every show. You know, every show we do different songs at different

time and just be like, you know, well, let's do another one for Pimp right quick. And turn it up again. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't want people to feel like I moved on. Nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? I bring it with me everywhere I go. The ultimate tag. So if I ever talk to you, funky in public, I apologize. That was a pimping me

that day. Can I ask you this? What do you like? Like, recording the record? And usually, this is my nigga DJ question. But you like performing a record or like recording the record? I'm glad you asked that because some people just want to make music. They like going

in the studio, they like creating, and they don't really like the performing aspect of it because it involves being around people and everybody ain't for it. Like, I remember Bobby Brown talked about it. Barbara Brown was like, Whitney just liked to sing and perform,

but she don't like the meet and greets and the people. She let her heart speak for herself. But Bobby, he's like, I want the people. I embrace the people. I know what the people do for me. So I like the performance side of it

because I get to be with the people and enjoy the people company. I like both of them, man, but I ain't going to lie, man. They ain't nothing like a good show. You know what I'm saying? A good concert where everybody come in, they all ready for the music.

They've been drinking. They've been smoking. They look good. They feel good. Got a couple of dollars in their pocket. They're outside. You know what I'm saying? I'm an old nigga.

So for me, if I get to go out, there's some babysitters and shit involved. So we got to put that in early. You know what I'm saying? Two months early to have us a good time. But that's all we want to do, man. I just want to, you know, entertain motherfucker. Some people buy the music, never go to a concert.

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