Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - DJ Chose Interview: Producing for Megan Thee Stallion & Kevin Gates

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

We're back with Season 2, Episode 9 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by rapper and producer DJ Chose to discuss all things rap, music, and pop culture. He shares stories from his ...collaborations with rappers such as Megan Thee Stallion, Kevin Gates, and YoungBoy Never Broke Again. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. The Volume. Alright, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. Special guest to my left, we're going to introduce my man's last. But to my far left, we got my dog, Bishop No Greenleaf. My boy B.H. out the prayer leaves. How you what? Cool and nasty. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:00:24 He got the triple black on today. He might rob us. We work with this nigga. Nigga ain't fucking with the hat. Nigga ain't fucking with the hat. See, Charles, you don't understand. That's the uniform. That's not no special occasion.
Starting point is 00:00:36 That's how he wake up every day. Black forces is dangerous. Shout out to the McQueenies. I fuck with them too. Man, niggas rock black forces. Really rob and kill niggas Oh dog Nigga I'm a holy nigga
Starting point is 00:00:47 I love the Lord Nigga we good To my right My dog Yo Nacho Yo T Yo Jeffrey How you feeling today man
Starting point is 00:00:54 He already started He already on that Nah I'm cool bro I was chilling today bro These Oh man I hate these shoes But Fuck it
Starting point is 00:01:01 Nah for real I got a little segment Called Bada Doe So we always wear kicks I'm in the sneakers So I always got Heat on Today I ain't put no heat on
Starting point is 00:01:09 My fault I apologize These just cool DJ got on the top five Bruh For sure For sure South Beach
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah That's it Yeah But last but not least To my left You know what I'm saying The man in the city Getting this money
Starting point is 00:01:22 On tour Producing Performing All the above DJ Chose. Appreciate you pulling up to the net, my dog. How you feeling, man? Man, I appreciate y'all intro.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I appreciate y'all hospitality. Love. Man, this nigga right here balling. He's the coolest nigga in the world. Talk about it. This nigga remind me of Nick Cannon off Love Don't Cost a Thing right now. I'll take that. What's up with you, nigga?
Starting point is 00:01:44 I'm not going to use that shit. I'll take that. What's up with you, nigga? I'm about to use that shit up. Nick Cannon, okay. Nah, man. Pool boy. Man. Hey, that's crazy. That's crazy. Now you got to call me Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I'll fuck with that. Love don't cost a thing, T. That's the episode. We started part of that, bro. Jones, we know you got a lot of bangers we're gonna get to your origin up but what's one song or one artist you feel like you missed out on like you had an inside track on you should have been on the song you could have produced it and it slipped away from you still tight about oh man that's crazy whoo there's a couple of them but uh there's a camera right there uh I'm gonna say I'm gonna say one of the first people that I was locked in we did a song with them and I never
Starting point is 00:02:37 it I never I never put it out Don Tyler yeah we used to record in my house, but by the time, I never put it out just because of, I was helping break the music. So sometimes when you break it and you're seeing it grow, you don't want to just drop the record right away. But I learned my lesson. I should have dropped all three of them records that month. But by the time he got with Cactus Jack and Travis Scott, you know It's just it's so many it's so many like once you up there is certain things you can't do
Starting point is 00:03:11 So but me and me him still tight. I just uh, I was out there working on this project and stuff So we still cool, but I should have dropped them three records. We did right away. He's on his way to superstar Yeah, he didn't eat a the for sure yeah i've seen him in concert who was that with future right yeah yeah don tolliver that bro yeah for sure for sure obviously you know some h-town representing you got a little bit of a high on ties too so you know a little bit about the midwest too man tell them about it yeah yeah i grew up in um youngstown when i was i did like five years there my mom used to You know she had a little boyfriend out there so Man that shit was I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 00:03:48 When we got here This feel good but back when I was In Youngstown that shit Like you in the country A lot of niggas wearing them in Youngstown That ain't too many of these niggas hold on Nigga Youngstown is more like
Starting point is 00:04:04 Terre Haute he don't know what Terre Haute is I heard about Terre Haute the girl at the gas stationown is more like Terre Haute. He don't know what Terre Haute is. I heard about Terre Haute. A girl at the gas station just told me about Terre Haute. Oh, no. The girl telling you about Terre Haute is crazy. Nah, but what age were you in Youngstown? I was probably like
Starting point is 00:04:19 10 to 14 type shit. So you got to experience it for real. Yeah, yeah. It was real grimy. Like, where I'm at in Texas is hood, but we ain't grow up as fast as we did there. Like, when I got to Youngstown, I was still like a little kid, and there used to be girls trying to fuck me. You feel me? I used to be like, damn, you touching my private parts. Like a hotel, my mama, for for real shout out to the midwest
Starting point is 00:04:48 yeah they are moving fast they had babies at like 16. they just had apartments when i was in high school oh girls had kids when i was in middle school for sure yeah shout out to the baby fat jackets but that makes sense though because when i'll be going to tell like damn my friend i'm like damn don't none of y'all got kids? How y'all niggas touching all these girls, like, and they got no kids? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That shit crazy. You got to get your baby mama in that. Oh, it's guaranteed. I'm so glad I didn't live here when I was, like, growing up.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. You was one of the few. Man, I got out of here. You was definitely supposed to be a statistic. I was supposed to have three kids. No, definitely. Damn.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. Child support is real. Tweet. Crazy. I got out of here You was definitely supposed To be a statistic Yeah I was supposed To have three kids No definitely Damn Yeah Child support is real I hear you straight though You good at money man You good in Texas though I heard in Texas You only can pay $2,500 Is that right
Starting point is 00:05:35 Or they made that up Shit That's bull shit Homie said nah We had a thing like So it was a dude That hoot Named Roddy Boobwa
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah He had a girl pregnant And she she tried to move to California, but they said the baby was conceived in Texas, so the match she could get was $2,500. Oh, that is true. Yeah. Oh, that is true. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, that's true, bro. $2,500 a month? $2,500 a month. That's the child support rules aligned with where the baby is born, no matter the state. Oh, shit. What I been tripping on, then? So you get a girl pregnant in Youngstown,
Starting point is 00:06:04 but y'all can move to L.A. You still got a Youngstown bill. I know that Youngstown child support probably about $1,200. Yeah, real modest. Real EBT. Respectively. That's probably how it is in that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's a woman's thing now, bro. I don't know. I don't know. I ain't worried about it. Shout out to the volume. I'm going to be married if I had a kid, though. though i'm gonna do it right when it's time i said that too oh yeah don't do that that's trash have you got no kids i'll be feeling though yeah i ain't got no kids oh good shit yeah good shit yeah step daddy out of pocket ain't got no kids yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:06:42 nah step daddy's out I said it last night In my segway at the show And I asked the women Like who had kids And I told them like I'm a I'm a hell of a stepdaddy Cause it's true like
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm at that age now Where I'd rather take care of something If you If we can do that Then we can have something But I gotta practice with your kids And tell you shit
Starting point is 00:07:01 I like your style But me you got the same type of mindset Alright cool So you at the You at the show You know what I saying you're getting your shit off you're like i'm sad daddy now what's the limit on them kids though when she come with them them digits what's the what's the step day like because you ain't hopping in the in the full court 505 situation nah nah nah nah nah it might it might the limit might be like two but you got to be able to control two i love one I can take one
Starting point is 00:07:25 But if you can't control two Like I know this one girl Who got a child And she raised so well Like it fuck me up sometimes It be like The little girl smart The little girl respectable
Starting point is 00:07:39 Like when she The little girl be calling me Mr. I can't say my real name She be calling me Bob, Mr. She, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir, no, sir. And that shit be, she read the Bible sometimes. I be like, man, I be like, man, that's the type of woman I would like to have kids with. Because she going to raise my children.
Starting point is 00:07:58 She be teaching that shit. And I'm like, man, women don't take the time out to do that shit with their kids no more. Them women type. That's true, bro. That's true. But it always be the fine ones that got the badass kids who make you jump and die. Boy, don't they? Shout out to my wife, man.
Starting point is 00:08:13 We got a bunch of them. We got both. It's a lot of wholesome women that take care of women, too. But we got a bunch of sexy reds, too, out here. Where's he on? No, I'm saying, though. It's him, bro. I'm saying, though. It's a bunch of ghetto bitches out here. I'm trying to he on? It's him, bro. I'm saying, though, it's a bunch of ghetto bitches
Starting point is 00:08:27 out here. I'm trying to get a remix of Sexy Red. Like your song? Yeah, me and Boosie. It won't be no Sexy Red slander in this interview. We fuck with Sexy Red. Sexy Red's the president. But you was early on Sexy Red, though. Yeah, I was early. See, Sexy's one of them people, too. Midwest.
Starting point is 00:08:44 We never did a song, but I did a lot of songs for her, with her, in the studio and shit, but I never just dropped a verse. But a real disclaimer that nobody know, I never got paid for none of the songs either. So when I look at life, I be like, I just love that I never got paid because I'm like, man, that makes the relationship even better Yeah Cause Somebody owe me a favor
Starting point is 00:09:09 I don't know who yet but Whoever the fuck Orchestrated that session Hey man I was a believer early It was just you and G Herbo That was it And I
Starting point is 00:09:20 I might have been before G This was 2020 Oh okay Yeah And I was like You know what's This was 2020. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I was like, you know what's crazy? I had asked my manager, and this is how y'all know a nigga be really in a good mind space. This is 2020.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I had the biggest record at the time. I was on Billboard Hot 100. Then I had like a Fred O'Bain and Lil Durk record that was super crazy yeah and I and I was in a studio with sexy red that nobody knew and that's what I call humble because every time I think of that situation I used to wonder like damn bro I really be going do shit but I'll be seeing it I'll be seeing the future I'll be seeing the vision but a lot of people don't a lot of people be like I used to get people like, why the fuck you in the studio? Like, I would get, around that time, it would be people that are popping in Miami. And they'd be like, you in Miami?
Starting point is 00:10:13 And I'm like, yeah. And they'd be like, pull up to my session. I'm like, nah, I can't. I got a session with Sexy Red. And at the time, bitches be like, who the fuck? Nigga come to my session. I ain't going to say no names. And they was a group uh and they was they was
Starting point is 00:10:25 a group and they was popping so when I go to the studio with sexy red lock and get it done everybody like why the fuck you ain't skip that to go to that and now I look at life and I'll be like man I'm glad I make sound decisions bro yeah bro and that's real shit and that's what we talk about all the time here's like When you networking And you working It's really about the people Around you And below you Because the people above you
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's very rare You get to catch them But the next wave of people Is always your peer group And the people coming up So you always Want to take care Of the people around you
Starting point is 00:10:56 Because them gonna be The people that you dealing with Just like on some school shit Yeah you might not Fuck with this dude In school He might be weird Whatever
Starting point is 00:11:02 But you got a decent relationship Because you grow up He gonna be the Mother motherfucking owner of that business that you going to have to have a relationship with. You never going to catch them executives. Leroy Cohen ain't never going to come down to our level. But the next level of people, you sure love shit.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Like you said, that back favorite pocket. Bro, I love the way you think. My whole career, like when I think about who I am today, my whole career was built off people that nobody gave a fuck about and I had to sit there and like when I this is my number one thing I got a partner that did a song for Drake right and I got more partners that did songs for like Nicki Minaj and when they get the flexing
Starting point is 00:11:37 on me they be they always compare us who got the most hits you or him you or him you or him who who the most influential producer and i always look niggas in their eyes and i'd be like you know y'all really don't count because y'all accidentally got a drake placement i made drakes we different and i was fucking with niggas below me and they got diamond songs like fuck with you talking about Y'all got niggas who had diamond songs already. They was going to continue being diamond. I made niggas who was dirt, diamond, and they still going
Starting point is 00:12:12 diamond. I done made a couple of them because when you plan down here, you can make a couple. If you study shooting for Beyonce, Jay-Z, Drake, you might have two songs that you get out of them because that's just how the world works. But I always tell young producers, man, y'all niggas need to play down here, man.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like, it's going to be another one, and it's easier to get to them. So I like the way you think. Man, you talked about, you know what I'm saying, going crazy with, you know what I'm saying, one of your biggest records. How did that come to fruition? Because I know you produce, but what made you kind of step out of like nah this gonna be mine um i've always been an artist since i was a kid i was rapping but um somewhere down the line i had an a and r convinced me to write songs and he was just like bro what do you care about you care about you want to be famous or you want the money and at the time when you broke it used to hurt to know like man i wrote this and that nigga
Starting point is 00:13:10 shining and nobody knows i did that shit and i'm i got the check i got a plaque but he convinced me successfully to worry about the money and i started making money but when i got to like when i seen my first m it was was like, okay, this is God telling me that I've done my job and I need to figure out how to make sure people don't forget that I'm talented as well. So that's how I ended up getting my first hit. I had spent like, man, that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I had my niece and my girl. We were sitting in my little house at the time and I used to make them get on tiktok and we would like we would broker tiktok videos all day we would literally send messages get little kids to do videos for 30 to 40 dollars and we did that for like three weeks and blew the song up i probably spent like eight bands everybody think i spent the world of money i spent the world of money on keeping it going but the initial impact of blowing that record up i probably spent like eight bands and that's crazy because people don't understand investing
Starting point is 00:14:15 in yourself don't always mean spending a shit ton of money maybe a shit ton of time because shit we don't know shit about the tiktok i know what it is we on there and stuff but in that time period you talking about 2019 2020 you was early in the landscape and who knew that the world was about to shut the down right so you it's like you getting stock in a company that shot the up you just have to put your product in it but then also like you said you had to spend money on your record because people don't understand you do not get those billboard placements you not get those radio spins off your song just being good hell nah hell nah you gotta you gotta drop the bag and i tell people even one that's better if you actually do it yourself it'll be more cost
Starting point is 00:14:52 effective like a lot of times people and i mean every every nigga with money can attest to this there's a lot of times you can hand somebody some money but you realize that they don't give a fuck about your money so they don't wake up every day and and and fiend for making that shit back they don't it's not no desire to make your money make money but when you doing it yourself you're gonna lose sleep until you get that bag back so i mean at that time it just checked out and when it did it was so crazy because my little niece ain't never you know she ain't never she don't even know what money look like you feel me but she's like 13 at the time as soon as it went uh when it went gold i broke off and she was just like she was like as a kid you know there's a lot of red type what you enjoy more performing or uh making a record i like performing because um i want to be more the
Starting point is 00:15:43 reason why my name is DJ chose because I feel like God chose me and when I look at music I think of influence and like power so I know as a songwriter I'm effective because I can like seed a message through the airways but I like when I can actually influence the world because I feel like I got good intentions. And I feel like there's a lot of people that influence the world and they got so much power. But, man, they don't give a fuck about the next person. I do.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You feel me? Every night after I perform, I go to the merch table. I shake hands, kiss babies, do all that shit. Because you one of the only producers for real. Like, I fuck with your shit, bro. And I ain't just saying that because you here. But that you actually own records. Like, you got anthems.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I just told C-Hole, y'all doing a little Georgia Street tonight, but I told him, like, you can rock the crowd, nigga. You can perform and play. Appreciate you. Spin your shit. Like, you know what I mean? You got at least, I ain't shortchanged you, but I'm like, nigga at least can go for an hour or two. Yeah. With that bitch nine ass-shaking music.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah, that's Paul's stuff. With theass-shaking music. Yeah, that's Paul's album. With the ass-shaking music, though, for real. Because we got them babies for sure. You be on Goofy Talk sometime. You got to check out. Nah, nah, don't do me like that. You see the Black Forces, you got to try to get to my stupid name, man.
Starting point is 00:16:56 You got to try to break it. Ah, man, you say he be dancing. Sometimes he be dirt dancing, so you got to watch him. Oh, yeah, bro. Chill out. Come on, man. Shout out to the Jabberwalkers you feel me but i ain't one of them but now you like one of the only producers for real now i ain't discrediting
Starting point is 00:17:11 nobody i know they perform and get behind the scenes for sure and had the video band like it was uncut how was that your biggest like when your biggest song at the time period you just like damn i'm going crazy with the video. They want to see it. And they like, nah, you can't post this on me. Yeah, nah, they took my, they be banning my videos sometimes. But man, I just look at it like now I'm trying to clean up. I'm trying to clean up my image. I miss so much money with having a song, having videos that do like 52 million, 100 million views and shit.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And I can't make money because it's unmonetizable youtube guidelines yeah so i'm learning my life and i'm now where i'm at i'm just more like yeah i'll put on clothes like i don't even shoot the video of y'all they're gonna wear no clothes uh obviously your h-town influence man um the screw type eras like that type of music hit heavy in indianapolis crazy because we with that type of music those type of mixtapes you think mixed type eras could ever be like that again with the way that they do like regulations for is monetizing for music nah i don't think we should either damn for real nah i don't think i don't think that like because right now the world is like a mixtape if
Starting point is 00:18:21 you look at how much music come out and i don't know why but we can't keep up with it like hell no do you feel like let's be honest y'all remember when we used to consume music as kids like we literally used to consume music week for week and we still love the people we consume yeah right now I swear it's like only room for one you get a sexy red or like when sexy red came she replaced somebody I don't care what nobody really well really and then I didn't say that you did okay so if that's how y'all feel in the neck goes wait as a playable character or the music not a song I'll get a glow really mosque in the 2k he's out of pocket but now he was saying Nick goes. Wait, as a playable character or the music? Nah, just so. I was going to say, nigga got a Glorilla Mosky and a 2K. He's out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's what I'm talking about here. But nah, what he was saying is true. So we don't have the capacity right now to consume as much music. But when we was kids, I'm sorry if fucking Lil Wayne, Chameleon Air Mike Jones Whoever that Anybody liked If they dropped Power or whatever
Starting point is 00:19:28 We would consume All that music And we would never We would have Comparison conversations But you loved Who you loved You weren't changing
Starting point is 00:19:36 Who you was fucking with Just because they Ain't put out no music In a week Yeah and we would Play them for months I would play a Lil Wayne CD
Starting point is 00:19:44 For months On my mind I played Dedication 2 Yesterday I played yeah and we would play them that's a good time though yeah i'll play a little wayne on my mama i played dedication too yesterday i played i played nothing nothing i assume a lot of music like 2012. yeah i'll stay i'll stay up to date with bro i don't know i take that back i agree what you're saying as a whole like a world or god damn it Microwave Yeah absolutely Microwave But Nigga I'll stay tapped in With everybody I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 00:20:08 Why I'm saying What I'm saying I feel like Back then This is the trick Y'all Back then You could market yourself
Starting point is 00:20:18 Without an algorithm So So when you can Come out the trunk Or if Let's just say A nigga had a show at a concert um let's just say kevin gates boom he just had his concert let's say we in a world of cds kevin gates could reach his audience every day if he wanted to if he just wanted to go on tour and out the trunk sell cds right now you can't give a motherfucker nothing you couldn't i couldn't
Starting point is 00:20:46 give a motherfucker a coupon for a new car they would literally be like thank you and drop it you wouldn't know what it was so i think now that we're depending on algorithms and things like that it's not that people don't stay up with things it's just like If Sexy Red is running things Then Sometimes it's hard to see Glorilla Like you would say So
Starting point is 00:21:09 I think Technically It's about If whoever is Manhandling The moment That's who's important Like Drake
Starting point is 00:21:18 Is manhandling the moment Y'all know what made me say Damn Drake This Y'all wanna know what made me say damn Drake this y'all want to know what made me forget about Drake's album and Drake's tour what when Kevin Gates spitting that big mouth I was like damn I don't care about the Drake album right now all I care about is Kevin Gates spitting in someone's mouth now that's wild and what's crazy is you was obviously on tour with him with that happen right yeah did you see that live Or did you see it afterwards Right I saw it live
Starting point is 00:21:46 I was actually in the crowd How was that What was you thinking Cause we was That shit was hilarious Yeah bro Wow Man y'all gotta understand
Starting point is 00:21:52 Gates is my dog A lot of people Are scared to talk about him In podcasts and stuff We really like this So I don't care about Speaking on things When I think of Gates I think I don't care about speaking on things. When I think of Gates, I don't think what people think.
Starting point is 00:22:09 A lot of people are going to turn it into some different shit like, ah, he demonic, he this, he that. I don't see it that way. I just see it as someone who understands. He understands. When you know what the world is on man he get it I just feel like some people get it some people don't
Starting point is 00:22:30 and if I had that kind of power I wouldn't have did it how he did it I like how he doing it now when he doing the champagne and he spitting in they mouth see the first day I feel like all of our show was kind of like we was just having a good time we was doing what we planned to do but good time we was doing art what we what we
Starting point is 00:22:45 planned to do but i and i we nobody knew nothing about this i ain't gonna lie that's i never knew nothing about that that ain't i'm saying like the way i planned my show that's how it went that day however his show was that's how it went for me the second day i doctored my show a little bit i'm not saying he playing that at all but what i will say is that the second show i like how he doing it now where he sipped the champagne and he you know what i'm saying and that's just really for me that's what i call like um i want to say like power and influence like when you know these fans look or when you know someone loves you that much and you can give them that kind of experience these are the same women that want to want to kiss them but he was the first
Starting point is 00:23:27 nigga too that really made eating booty cool publicly when he said that shit the internet went up in the up and i was gonna say i ain't gonna hold you he um he introduced me to gays a long time ago he's an early gays fan oh yeah i'm a fan yeah he fucks with gays tough he's one of the ghosts bro i fuck with gays too luca Brasi, don't do that. You know that intro used to be your shit. I like Gates. Okay, don't start fixing it. Don't start fucking up your posture, nigga. And looking at me from a different way, nigga.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, it won't be no Kevin Gates slander. I ain't doing that. My little brother love Kevin Gates. Nah, move, dog. Shout out to Moe. Shout out to Brad. Yeah, niggas was around. Like, Kevin Gates is a go.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But I'm saying, like, I just think now The internet was When he said That eat the booty shit It went crazy But the internet Just so crazy now I think What I'm trying to say is
Starting point is 00:24:12 I think I like Gates Cause he's always Ahead of the culture You feel me The shit he doing Is Is literally
Starting point is 00:24:22 Some shit Niggas been doing Facts bro But no Not like a lot of niggas Now it's going I'm telling you Any nigga that had a problem
Starting point is 00:24:29 With that situation Watch what I tell I'm about to go do it As soon as I get off tour I'm finna fly my I'm finna fly my queen I was about to say my bitch I'm finna fly my queen
Starting point is 00:24:38 To some foreign country I'm finna pop some fucking I don't know what Cause I don't drink But I'm gonna do it that day I'm gonna pop it I'm gonna sip the champagne i'm gonna make her tilt her head back and say if you love me you're gonna let me spit this in your mouth and she's gonna say i love you and i'm gonna spit it in her mouth and i might go viral that day but he be leading the culture and i
Starting point is 00:24:56 i hate to say it because women behave me for not being against the things he do but it'd be like you bitches gonna do it anyway y'all just gonna do it in five years he's just doing it today the spitting in the mouth is crazy yeah i think the spitting is the only thing i gotta teach is on but just shout out to you freaky chose hey man i'm just telling you man hey i'm a i'm a who used to watch like uh extreme tube you feel me and i don't know if you know this he do i told you my computer got banned for that it took my computer because of that hey man they've been spitting miles on extreme that's empty over there not facetime that's's empty over there. Not FaceTime. That's freaking Teague over there.
Starting point is 00:25:47 They took my computer. I love Gaze, but the only thing I got to beef with Gaze is I don't believe that he fixed that girl car with her bare hands. Stop saying that.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He fixed up at her. Yes, he did, Charles. I need footage, bro. I don't believe Will scored 100. I don't believe that Gaze fixed up with his bare hands.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Charles, talk to that nigga. I fuck with Gaze, but I'm nothing. I got to see it. Let me tell you this, dog. And I can't. I'm not going to say too much because i was there so i'm not a lot not about you oh not not about the car oh god i'm not about the car hey hey but it's a lot of cycle up there bro i ain't gonna lie that's a lot of that i don't like i am the one thing y'all don't get is I am the number one look gates in his eyes
Starting point is 00:26:28 and really really try to like tell him he didn't do something like I'm the guy I will look him in his eyes be like man stop lying and he will like he'll laugh and then he'll like show me right but in this case one day I seen and I'm not supposed to talk about it because he told me to speak nothing speak nothing up but today I'm I'm not supposed to talk about it Cause he told me to speak nothing of this Speak nothing of this But today I'm I'm gonna speak something of it It's been a long time
Starting point is 00:26:49 So it's But I literally seen Him do something one time That blew my mind And I ain't gonna speak on how he did it But he literally He um He let
Starting point is 00:27:04 He let somebody punch him in the chest Right He was like Uh He was like Punch me right here And he let him Punch him in his chest
Starting point is 00:27:12 Like 20 times And he just stood there And was like And this nigga was big And he was like Yeah I can't feel a thing And I was like
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm sitting there like What the fuck So I'm in We in the studio I'm thinking He about to call me next So I was like, I'm sitting there like, what the fuck? So, we in the studio. I'm thinking he about to call me next. So, I'm like, at the time, I'm like, nigga, you know I'm not finna do it. Because I'm the kind of person, when I'm around him, I'm not the person who, you know how you got them friends that try to play too hard? And, ah, yeah, if he doing it, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like, if Gates lift 200 pounds, I'm not going to lift 200 pounds. I don't got shit to prove. And that's why we fuck with each other. He know that I'm the nigga that if I don't get with something, I don't get with it. You feel me? But this particular day, the guy that was in the studio was one of them niggas who didn't know how to say no to Gates. I know how to say no. So he was like, hey, come here.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm going to show you. I'm going to say no. So he was like, hey, come here. I'm finna show you. I'm finna show you this. And he, whatever he did, he did it. Right? And Gates was like, now stand right there. And you stand right there. I promise you ain't gonna feel a thing. And he hit him in his chest.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Man, you know he big. Boom. But bruh didn't move he took that and then he was like and i stand right there and bro was like i didn't feel it boom he was like you feel that no man i didn't feel it and it me up and these are stories that i wasn't supposed to speak nothing up but i i hope you don't get mad at me But I'm just telling you sorry bro when we talk about that car battery I Believe because whatever the fuck he knows He might know how to start a car this Cleo crawl so gates go off
Starting point is 00:29:00 I got a look I got respect and testimony. I was there. I got a question for you. Who was you growing up like? Producers? Who you grew up like? Did you have anybody you wanted to be like? Or any sound you was like, damn, if I could do that, that's what I want to do. Man, all the time. I definitely used to love
Starting point is 00:29:19 Paulo Dund when he was having his run. Of course, everybody wanted to be like Timberland. Who else? Any hometown influences? Man, it's a guy named Uncle Jaime who did a lot of stuff. And when I was a kid, I got to work with him. And he just raw.
Starting point is 00:29:37 He an older man, but he be in the club. When I see him in the club now, I think Uncle Jaime like 55, 60, he be in the club just... Y'all know that old man that be in the club dancing, he be I think I could hire me like 55 60 be in the club just Y'all know that old man and be in the club dance with the young girls and open shirt And he really gonna get loose in the ad man his energy like when I meet good Producers from back in the days like Jazzy Fade him they be just live it. They be like They used to make beats with a body. They didn't just make a a beat they used to feel it first and then they up and then now like these internet they think about it they click it in they delete it they don't make music with they you feel me sometimes if you hear like a top
Starting point is 00:30:16 that sounds super soulful i was making the beat with my body bro you feel me hard bro yeah like that i'm really in that i feel like music is a feeling yeah and i like the older guys who used to have that feeling like right now so many songs just feel the same way that they're not trying to explore new feelings you feel me but that ain't no knocked right now i love what we're doing right now too i got a question for you uh who's one artist or what was a group of people That if you had your dream list Of people you could produce a song for Who would it be?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Drake first I would love to work with Drake Drizzy, Drizzy for sure Good placement Man, I'm actually happy With my current list I wouldn't change Kevin Gates for nobody I wouldn't change Fred O'Bain for nobody I wouldn't change Megan Thee Stallion
Starting point is 00:31:10 for nobody like NBA Youngboy for nobody when I look at my life in 10 years they gonna say I worked with Tupac of this generation like when you really look at life between Kevin Gates Young young boy and megan i didn't already did everything i needed to do that's a real trip of carl i gotta hold on a minute cut you off did you work with nba young boy in the studio or you just sent him the record i've been with you know what i did work with nba young boy in the studio but no smoke was not in the studio but i did the whole can um fed babies with money bag yelling young boy i was in the studio and you know them two like fell out yeah but i was i was in the
Starting point is 00:31:54 studio like two days before they fell out like but that whole week we was in the studio and these are moments you can't get back and i forgot i. I got records with Moneybag that's gold, and I never speak on them. I be forgetting. But shit like that, like, I can't make. That was a tough flex, bro. Nah, it's fine. It's respect, though. That's what I know.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But I really can't make up. Like, when I say, when you you catch These were people that At the time was just like They was just getting like 5, 10k a show You feel me? But when I look at what I done Off early things
Starting point is 00:32:35 Man I don't even It's like the people that I missed It be like man You just Y'all like Y'all on separate sides of the tracks Y'all not like different like
Starting point is 00:32:46 maybe beyonce or some but everybody else man i'm kind of in line with myself now hold on you were saying yb is the tupac of the generation right i mean if if i ask my my nephew my nephew ask me too so you would say that yeah i don't with tupac but i feel i get there okay so i get the lining though hey with your boy what I'm saying today is if young boy die tomorrow yes also I'm they gonna look back and be like who did his first hit and I would be the equivalent of the person who made what's the biggest Tupac song damn you did you dad's Dillinger then hit him up I may hit him up young boy I made I would be that kind of guy and then when I look at even with top for Freddo
Starting point is 00:33:33 I made a very influential song with somebody who when you think about youngboy and Freddo and how they be for us, I show the world that don't fucking play with me because I made Freddo Bang first hit too. I'll give you that. You, I ain't going to. I'm tapped in, bro. Now we can talk. Freddo Bang was big on Ghetto niggas like me Underground
Starting point is 00:34:06 Like Right right When you gave him That top record You helped him Put him in them ranks Like Put my nigga on stage
Starting point is 00:34:13 At that big show I love that That's a fact That's what I love about Cause he was big Right But you definitely With that record
Starting point is 00:34:20 You helped surpass Like Get my nigga out of the radio He can really hit these God damn it summer jams yeah yeah versatility for sure nah for sure you go there for that that's what that's the part that when i look at like that's the part that made me be like i ain't gotta chase everything no more only because of those situations that i look at nobody else could do no other producer was out here bridging gaps other
Starting point is 00:34:46 than like dr dre and whoever else like they was making shit they would go you know diddy them they was doing some shit that was like very very gap bridging and i feel like my generation that i never get respect because people don't look at music that deep like they used to i'm gonna give your respect on some real shit on the because i'll be tapped in with the kids but on the underground level you was the diddy because that biggie and pox shit it was mainstream but niggas don't understand how big that nba young boy and fredo bang beef and you're the only nigga to give both of them two big records for sure so so i'll give you that and appreciate that even outside that i mean not to make it on mainstream shit, but you got two crazy
Starting point is 00:35:28 songs on there. A lot of people cannot say that. Yeah. Like, at a time period where she was ascending, she wasn't there yet. She was on her way up, and it was kind of iffy, but those are two big songs on her catalog that you do. You know what I'm saying? For sure.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So, like, your versatility with that and the hometown, like, that's easy respect for you. See, and a lot of people don't know, like, me and Meg, like me and meg like this like she used to i used to shoot her music videos i wasn't just a producer i was actually her one of her biggest viral freestyles that shot outside my house at the time and i was standing oh so that was you yeah that was me yeah that's crazy because everybody know that freestyle yeah yeah yeah that's daddy freestyle that's at my house like i literally just took my camera at the time i had a sony took that outside shot up video because at the time i felt like you you we almost we close and we was working a lot but i'm like we close we just need them visuals now so man it's just when you look at like that's how i end up getting thick though because i
Starting point is 00:36:22 knew i knew she ain't forgetting none of that it's just she's so big now you know it life, that's how I end up getting thick, though. Because I knew she ain't forget none of that shit. It's just she's so big now. You know, it's harder. It's so many channels. And I don't believe in channels. If we talk, I need to have your number. But to be talking to this person and that. You was there before all that goofy and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Hit my line. I ain't need to talk to your people now. Because before then, you was at my house. Right, right. But when she did the feature I knew like our Meg ain't changed. It's the same Meg.
Starting point is 00:36:51 That bitch so hard though, bro. That's why I'm like nigga, you came on that bitch and you get the crowd going and then she come with the bars and shit. That's a perfect record for sure. She did that shit for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:00 So nigga, I can dance to that song. You want to dance to Meg? Is that what you're saying? He's a folk nigga for that. Hey, fuck what you talking about. I dance to Meg. I ain't doing no twerking.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yo, come on, man. Don't do that. Don't solve it, girl. No, I fuck with Charles, nigga. You see the fit. That's not a nigga you might want to solve. No, nigga. Me and Charles rock the stage together, nigga. Let me go see that bitch tonight, Charles.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yo, if he go to your St. of Black Horses, he might stick up that whole front row. Man, he going to go grab something. He going, come here. Strong on them. Straight off the front line. Real KG. Let me punch your chest. Let me show you something.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And it's going to be the last of Club 520 podcast. Be here and catch some of the songs. We're going to have a boy. I got a question though like what was that first song that you think like really like major
Starting point is 00:37:50 took your career from like here to here like not mainstream but like when you first got that like buzz like yeah got you uh
Starting point is 00:37:58 as a producer as an artist producer producer first song um the one that really changed everything was time for that by kevin gates that was the first song that it i don't it was weird i don't know nobody know this
Starting point is 00:38:15 story this is crazy one day i got flew the atlantic records to work on some records they never told me who that was for that day i did 23 songs yeah i was just i was in the studio this one you ain't got i stayed in the trailer house i had nothing to lose and i'm like i'm in the studio at i think i got there at 12 i leave at like five in the morning but everybody talking about how i mean like in a generic he like yo you don't you know you did about 10 already bro you don't have to go this hard they're not tripping you can leave go do it at the time they ain't got no hoes I'm broke I'm ugly um whatever you want to call I'm dirty I'm whatever nigga I'm I'm in LA though
Starting point is 00:38:57 so if my trailer house ugly as fuck and my brother stayed over these three kids and I got a air mattress I'm standing in studio all night nigga I love the way this shit look it's a movie so I I stay I do 23 songs three dumb bitches go platinum fire so the in the crazy thing is Gates was down the hall that day so and at this time me and Gates ain't like me and Gates Now Gates is This is Gates that was sipping syrup Doing drugs And crazy as fuck
Starting point is 00:39:31 So Gates come in and listen And at the time He like He hear like a little melody I'm not thinking nothing of it He don't talk he not talking to me He come in he lean against the wall And he like I talking to me. He come in. He lean against the wall. And he like, I wish I could get on this wall.
Starting point is 00:39:48 But he lean against the wall. He sitting there. He like, he looking back at the wall. I'm like, what the fuck he looking at? He looking at the wall, though. He like, he mugging the wall. I'm like, man, this nigga losing. He literally up and down in the wall
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm a little scared He don't say nothing he just leave He leave Go down the hall The next day I wake up I got three Kevin Gates songs from the A&R Like yo listen to these three songs He like taking
Starting point is 00:40:21 Little melodies or whatever he like From the song and taking it to another level and then the album i'm not thinking then because i'm not signed yet so i'm not thinking it's gonna come out um i want to say two months later his album dropped they all on the album and a year later everything had went black and i was like i was like i'm chosen i don't care what nobody got to say but time for that was the one that was like the leader because none of them were singles they they had at the time they had every single that they needed and to this day time for that is one of his biggest songs
Starting point is 00:40:58 so it just showed me like man you ain't when you making music, you don't even need to be the single. You just got to be, you got to be out. You feel me? So that was the one that made me know, like, man, God ain't make no mistakes with my career. I'm where I need to be. I'm where I should be right now. That's fine. Love, bro. It don't know like that.
Starting point is 00:41:19 We got to wrap it up. Chose. Appreciate you sliding on us, my boy. Thank you, my brother. Hey, man. I love the energy, for sure. Appreciate y'all. Yes, sir, bro. You know what it is. Thank y'all for having me, my brother. I love the energy, for sure. You know what it is. Thank y'all for having me, my brother.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Love, love. But before we get out of here, new music, promo. Man, I got an album out right now called Egg Symbol. It came out two weeks ago. Yes, sir. It's the hardest thing out. Trust me, my new music hard. I'm on tour right now.
Starting point is 00:41:43 If y'all go look at the tour dates, pop out at a show, come rock with me. Do y'all want to come to the show tonight? If so, let me know. I'm going to get y'all on my list. Chose. Put me on the list. See the Black Forces. Put me on the list.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah, yeah. I don't need a mic, but if you give me a mic, I'm going to get you. Goddamn, Drake. If you see me here at the show, walk the other way. Get your freaks on that stage, nigga. I know how to pick them out, y'all. That's why we need you tonight. Go pick them out, goddamn.
Starting point is 00:42:12 We need a little. We need a little. That's a massive scout report. That report about to be. That's about to be some tough crowd. Y'all don't trust the judges. Nah, nah. I'm going to say you're going to have a hell of a show.
Starting point is 00:42:22 That's all I'm saying. Your show is going to be lit. That's what's up. That's what's up, man. One more time for Cho. Shout out to the me. I'm going to say you're going to have a hell of a show. That's all I'm saying. Your show is going to be lit. That's what's up. That's what's up, man. One more time for Cho. Shout out to The Volume. Shout out to the Patriot Gang. We appreciate y'all.
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