Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Gillie & Wallo on playing Jeff Teague 1-on-1, Michael Jordan story, Allen Iverson fandom

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 34 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Gillie and Wallo of the Million Dollaz Worth of Game podcast. Gillie talks about wanting to play Jeff 1-on-1 and says that he would cook him. Wallo and Gillie tell a crazy story about meeting Michael Jordan, as well as their fandom for Allen Iverson and all things Philadelphia sports after the Philadelphia Eagles beat the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LIX. The guys then get into starting a successful podcast, and reflect on the biggest guests to appear on their pod. Timeline 0:00 - Start 3:00 - Gillie in the Big 3 13:00 - Gillie hooping in HS 36:00 - Cam'ron & Mase 1:03:00 - Michael Jordan story 1:14:00 - Gillie vs Teague #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, we back. Another wonderful episode of Club 520 Podcast live in the Bay with it. All-Star Weekend, man. It's only right we got legends, legends, legends in the building, man. Going to introduce some blasts, but to my far left, we got my dog,

Bishop B. Head out the Pearl. He's how you would, Nasty? Cool and nasty. Let's get to it, baby. I know you excited for this episode, man. You ready for this episode? You going to rip the motherfucking do-rag. You going to rip that nasty do-rag.

Y'all just stay out and the motherfucking do-rag. You're going to rip that nasty do-rag. Look on the do-rag. What type of do-rag was it? Man, that joint was nasty. Look on the joint. Look like one of the joints from the 80s. You coming in. You going to bat for your mom. Nigga, do-rag is my f***ing with your mom.

F*** your mom this week. Got the joint hanging. Mom, move joint. Shut up, boy. Mind your business. Nigga, durag drying on the motherfucker. He said,

I put on a rattle, dude. Damn. He got an old dewey on, too. These young niggas be wearing some nasty durags from the 80s. Colorful joints, too. Purple.

Yeah, purple joint, a lower joint, a gold durag. I keep it black. A leather joint. They be having leather durags. A leather durag is crazy. Yeah, I got him wearing one.

Just a last name. On some Eddie Murphy Raw shit. Look at it. You got some shit up in there, too. That ain't just all you. You got that Beijing in it. Y'all niggas wear that Beijing. You got some juices and beige mixed up. That shit up in there.

Man, I need to slice these niggas so we can cut off his mouth. My dog, Young Nacho, Young Teague. How you what? You know why I'm here. Young Nacho. Young Nacho. That's what they call me.

He's a Nacho from Chivo. We're tapping nacho. Tapping nacho. You know why I'm here. Camera, you know why I'm here. I'm going to say this, though. We got the finish line, footlocker, whatever it is, set up for the 1v1. All types of it.

That court is no longer available now after that better place. Hold up, hold up. They let the record reflect. Gil's record in the big three is better than Teague's. Oh, shit. He never hit no four-pointers or none of that shit. Gil hit every game. Every game I ever played, and I hit four-pointers. How many did you play?

Three. MVP. Every game. And the MVP. Four-pointers, at least three threes. Nick, MVP, nigga. Against who? Who you play?

It don't matter. I don't ask who the fuck they playing. All right. We get on the court. Let me ask you a question. When you get to the game, right, did you give a fuck about who they had on the engine list and all that? No, I don't give a fuck who they,

whoever they put out there is getting barbecue baked. They're going to fuck in the oven. Yeah. That's why I can't wait to play who they put. Whoever they put out there is getting barbecue baked. They're going to fuck in the oven. Yeah. That's why I can't wait to play you. That's what we do. Damn, man. That's why I can't wait. Introduce our guest, DJ.

Man, listen, man. I love these things, man. Introduce me right, nigga. That's right. Damien. Who? Damien who? You better not, DJ.

I can't do that on this platform. But I'm talking to you, DJ. Listen, man. I can't do that on this platform. I'm talking to you, man. Listen, man. I ain't doing it for you. You want me to introduce myself? Introduce yourself, girl. Talk your shit. Shane Gildress Alexander.

That's right. Manu Gildobly. Sam Gazelle. Michael. Mike Gil Jordan. Yes. Fuck this YouTube. Gilbert Arenas. Yeah, that's right. Cha. Gil Jordan. Fuck did you talk about? Gilbert Arenas.

Yeah, that's right. Chauncey. Gil. Gil. Gil. Gil. Gil. Michael.

Gil Jordan. That's the nigga that from that family movie. No. Michael. Michael. No, it's Mike Gil Jordan. Don't you? You got Michael.

You got Michael. That family movie. Yeah. He's from American Jordan. You got Michael. You got Michael. You got family moves. He's not really Michael Jordan. Oh, that's crazy. I don't do that, man. But y'all, man, listen, man,

we got honor, honor, honor to that. We got legends in the building, man. Pioneers. And you know who you got. Who else? Shaquille O'Neal.

That's right, baby. I play big in the pay. I play big in the pay. Y'all see my game, Big 3, co-MVP. That's right, baby. I play big in the pay. I play big in the pay. Y'all see my game, big three, co-MVP. That's what I do. Co-MVP?

They gave him an award. Who was that girl I cooked in the joint, man? I barbecue. Get out of here. I don't play kids, whoever. I play anybody.

I ain't got no picks out here. How many of you average? I play in two on two. Y'all going 12. Man, me and Terry DeHaan played for C. Hall back in the day. Look me up, man.

I played with Bobby Hurley and them was playing, man. Chris and Layton when they was at Duke and all that shit. Rasheed Wallace. Damn, you know all this shit. Yes, I was balling back then. Look my joint. I fucked my ACL up. You get old too, nigga.

You have enough weight, girl. Yeah. Nigga always saying they messed their ACL up. Yeah, fucks ACL up, man. I was moving. See, I played in this. I played in NCAA, man. When they was really playing.

They don't play now. They don't play now. Smugglers don't play now. Nigga soft, man. For sure. They don't even play now. I ain't even going to hold you. We grew up when the All-Star weekend was the shit.

It ain't the shit like it used to be. The NFL was more the shit than the All-Star weekend. It used to be popping. I'm talking about it used to be a movie. I don't know what happened. Right. You see what I'm saying? I don't know what's going on no more, man.

One thing that happened, they ain't put me in a motherfucking celebrity game. I was going to ask you about the campaign. So you know that I ain't got a campaign. I don't want to play in that motherfucker. I looked at that shit. I said, well, that's a waste of my money.

But it's a test. We got our own celebrity game. I don't want to play against niggas that can't play. How about a bunch of people in there that don't want to play? Motherfuckers that got good publicist and shit. Man, I ain't got time for that shit. It's a waste of time. If you played in that game,

how many points you had? What? 50. I'd have had like 40. You have 40. 15 rebounds. Easily. That shit was...

Come on, bro. Nobody out there could play. Nah, nah. You really don't. Like, respect the... Nah, nah. Let's be for real. T.O., my man, we played on the same team on the big three.

Yeah. Who was the MVP? Who had 27? Who had four-pointers, three-pointers? Man, this shit. We had to cut the news, guys. Fuck, we talking about one, no foul shots. This all, and let's be for real

most of this shit is jumpers this shit ain't layups this shit is jumpers NBA range what are we playing man we got a Nike let me ask this nigga

how many four pointers you hit in victory none I ain't shooting no four pointers none nigga I ain't shooting no four pointers none none nigga let me ask you a question how hard is it to shoot from you hitting big three? Nothing. I ain't shooting no fours. Nothing, nigga. I ain't shooting no fours. Nothing, nigga.

Let me ask you a question. How hard is it to shoot from the four-pointer? I ain't won any game. I only shot one. Every time I shot that bitch, you know what it was. Who was you playing, man?

Bro, I was playing Professor. I was playing Professor. They brought him in there thinking he was going to do something. Come on, man. Ain't no fucking body my height could guard me, man. Fuck is we talking about, man? Who the fuck my height going to be able to guard me, man?

Think about that, man. You got to be at least 6'4", 6'5", to even have a fucking chance. And you better have a 7'2", fuck the wingspan. That nigga like 5'11". Fucking barbecue big. You better have a 7'2", fuck the wingspan. We got all this. This is a 5'11". That's why I was cooking it. Fucking barbecue dick that nigga. About 5'11", you 5'3".

Damn. Dog stand up, bro. That's why he's got a 5'8 wingspan. That's right, coach. He got a 5'8 wingspan. I didn't think his arms were longer than that, though. the way he said it. You don't cook him, cuz. Look at the wingspan. Let's be for real.

How many niggas you know this size can put on a basketball? Hands big as shit. Look at this. Slappin' nigga whole fuckin' head. That's what I'm talking about, man. Hands big. Who don't know my size can put on a basketball? Next level.

Fuck this. Oh, you thought this was a ski, huh? Okay. He hold it. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on.

I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna put it on. I'm gonna about, man. I can't speak. I don't know my size. I'm a fast kid. Next level. Fuck this. Look at it. Oh, you thought that was a big ass thing, huh? Look at it. He holding it. Oh, no. I'm like, he got it.

He got it. He got it. I'm like, I'm like, Mike, that's not a rubber ball. And it's a rubber ball. This ain't no real ball. This shit a rubber ball, nigga. Fuck you. I'm like Mike with that.

I'm like, what you all ready for? Hands off, smack that shit. Now, give him the ball. He can't even park. Think about that. OK. It's probably the rubber ball. Oh!

My hands bigger than this thing. That's right, cuz. I have a ball like this. That's right, cuz. Bro, how do you want me to hold the ball, bro? My hand's bigger than yours, nigga. My hand's big as shit. Think about that.

You don't cook him, cuz. Yeah, he's barbecue. He fucked up. Look, he like, damn, I didn't think he could do it like that. He getting burnt on the grill. What's up, bro? I'm like Mike with that shit. But you're 5'6".

What the fuck is you doing? You don't barbecue him, cuz. We're trying to get to the court. You don't want to get to the court, man. Yeah, we do. You know what they call you when I'm down with you? When I'm down with you. Look how you like this shit, right?

My nigga do it. He got baby peeing in his ear. Damn, got the black and white. Why they come over there trying to hit us? No, we trying to do us bad. We say we got to court the hoop, bro. I don't know these niggas, bro. They talking a lot.

We can play this 2-on-2 today. We don't got to do all that extra shit that they do. Come on, set it up, man. We're trying to get you out of that one-on-one. I know they trying to. Nah, I'm trying to hoop. Yeah, we trying to hoop. I said it. I got the court for you.

Now you only got a plastic basketball on this motherfucker. Nah, that ain't my ball. That wasn't my ball. My footlocker got it set up. My man running get a plastic basketball and shit like that. We ain't believe it. That impromptu. He trying to set you up. Wet as hell that shit. Like, I wouldn't be able to do it. That impromptu. He tried to set you up.

Wet as hell. Right. But you still didn't matter. Yeah, when you got hands like Mike, I told you what they called me, nigga. I'm going to cook this shit out you watch. Listen, man, we are honored, man. This is the best introduction

you could ever have, man. We're the guys who wrote the game. Gillian Wallow, legends, legends. We appreciate y'all pulling up, man. Yes, sir. I just want to tell y'all niggas doing y'all thing, man. Appreciate it, man. could ever have, man. Gillian Wallow, legends, legends. We appreciate y'all pulling up, man. I just want to tell y'all, y'all niggas doing y'all thing, man. I salute you, man. For real. Y'all doing y'all thing.

I appreciate y'all come up. I'll be watching from afar. And when we started this podcast, we looked out to see, you know what I'm saying, who we really rock with. And we really got a lot of respect for y'all, man. Y'all go crazy, man. You know what I noticed in a lot of y'all podcasts? What's up?

It was like the whole NBA was going to beat Jeff the fuck up, man. What? What happened? A lot of stories, bro. Boy, everybody talk crazy to him. Everybody. Russell Westbrook lay him up and do this. He's like, man, I don't care.

Russell said, nigga, you should. He did. He did. He's up, man, I don't care. Russell said, nigga, you should. He did. He did. Yeah. Damn. Damn. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Don't buy that shit, bro. I don't care, man. He's just barbecuing me. Who give you all this bread? Who give you? I just put some sauce on you, nigga. Shut up.

I don't care. I don't care. It ain't that spicy. So it's cool. That ain't Howard. That ain't Howard. It ain't that spicy. It's cool. That ain't how it went. That ain't how it went. That ain't how it went. That ain't how it went.

That ain't how it went. Damn, that's crazy, cuz. Nigga, watch. Nigga. That's how it went. A little bit. I was like, nigga, I don't give a fuck about that shit. He said, nigga, you should.

He was mad. He was mad. You should, nigga. You should, nigga. You should be sorry. Take your ass out of court, baby. For sure, man. He was just like. He was mad. You should, nigga. You should be sorry. Take your ass out of court, baby. For sure, man. He was just like, he was just nodding his head.

Nigga slammed him. Booze! So what, nigga? You slammed my nigga. Nigga, I slammed him in your ear. You should be sorry. My nigga get recovered. I don't care.

Nigga, you on a poster. So what? My fans are like that, too. He be like, damn. Nigga just poster ride through this shit. So what? Y fans are like that too. They be like, damn. Nigga just posted right after this shit. Y'all fried. As a token of our appreciation, man, and Mitchell and Ness for having us in this wonderful space, man. We got some gifts for y'all, man.

You know what I'm saying? We know where y'all from, man. We got a little gift for y'all. We appreciate y'all pulling up for show, man. Shout out to Mitchell and Ness, the family. Hold it down. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, y'all. That's right. Yes, sir. My man. My motherfucking man. You already know. That's right. My go. Okay, yeah, that's right. Yes, sir. My man. My motherfucking man. You already know. The GOAT. The GOAT.

My GOAT. Yeah, the GOAT. You ain't never get a chance to play against Bubba. Yeah, he was in Memphis. I didn't play him in Philly. He had came back. But he had $45.

Oh, yeah, I got some race deal with Off-White. He had came back from being traded from the Grizzlies. So White was a real one. That's for y'all. Don't you ever see that on the show.

Nah, he wasn't hooping for real no more. Like, cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool.

He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool.

He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was cool.

He was cool. He was cool. He was cool. He was coolba. For sure. Mine was like, you know, because a lot of people say my game was like Sean Kemp mixed with Ray Allen. It was deep, you know. But I had a little Cedric Sabalis. I can see that. I had it was my shit was all over the place. So a lot of people patterned my game. Who the fuck say they game was up?

Kenny, yeah, you know. Sean Kemp and Ray Allen is crazy. My joke all crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. You had any pros around you when you was in high school? My team didn't have any pros on it, but we played against niggas. Rasheed Wallace.

Yeah. He was like that in high school? She played average probably about like 17 in high school. 17? That's it? It was different than niggas could play back then. It ain't like now.

You gotta understand, I think the leading scorer That's it. Yeah, but... It was different when niggas could play back then. They liked that. It ain't like now. These niggas don't even stick. You got to understand, I think the leading scorer came off the fucking bench, bro. Damn. Nigga name was Rondell Turner, man. Like, you got to understand,

when you got motherfucker, oh, he going to Maryland, he going to LaSalle, he going to North Carolina. He going to... Like, what the fucking point you think you gonna have man

I mean that's how it was for us in high school yeah he experienced that too how much you average my senior year 25 fuck you just got it man

nah nah was niggas playing D you know a lot of people played D man nah every team we played against had an NBA player on alright but what I'm saying is that's what's up

yeah section was crazy your high school team everybody was good yeah they all went D1. How the fuck you average 25 and you was gunning? Nigga, I made it to the NBA. You was gunning. He was gunning, nigga.

He was gunning. Yo, junior year, D1, boy, that's two. My junior year, we had straight D1s. I averaged like 13. Yeah. My senior year, it was my senior year. Like, I'm gonna do me. So you was gunning?

I was never a gun, dog. Always been a pass forward. What fucking league was you, like what type of high school, was you playing against the white boys or something? Nah, hell nah. Nah, don't get it fucked gun, though. I always been a pass for a gun. What fucking league was you, like, what type of high school were you playing against the white boys or something? Nah, don't get it fucked up, Wild. I had to make sure I had some shit. He keep talking about weed, man.

This nigga was on the fucking bench, man. Put the ice in the water. He was putting ice in the water, man. He went to school with George Hill. Man, what? Fuck who he went to school with. You know I played the scene at all, man. No, you didn't.

I was a bum. Oh, you did? You was locked up with my uncle. He said y'all used to squeeze in the sh at all, man. No, you didn't. I was a bum. You was locked up with my uncle. He said y'all used to squeeze in the showers together. Wait. Fuck out of here. Wait.

Fuck out of here. I'm going to tell you this. Excuse you, no showers. Man, that's how I was at this shit, man. I'm going to tell you this.

I'm going to tell you this right here. A lot of motherfuckers be hyping up, yeah, I had, he was playing against some white boys

in the back small towns. Nah, he really was. My first game. Don't say you. He was playing against some white boys in the back small towns. Nah, he really wasn't. My first game. Don't say you. Oh, we played against the same school. Yeah, my first game. What college you played for? I never went to school.

Did y'all look? I had 30. He had 30. We had no game. My second game would be, we played second. He probably played like Josh McRoberts. He went to the school called Carmel. Yup.

Yeah. Then like our third game. How many offers did you cook? No, he cooked for me. My senior year, like, 60. I had, like, 24, so that's cool. Yeah. Dude.

Dude. Dude. Dale. Bobby Knight wanted me over there, Indiana. Temple wanted me, of course. BYU wanted me. Who was Temple Coast? I think it was

John Chaney. John Chaney. So you could go to BYU back then. You could go to BYU back then. I was like, you could go to

BYU back then. That's before the yeah. Ohio State wanted me. Connecticut. Damn. It was deep. It was a lot of colleges, man. Sound like me, bro. Georgetown, they definitely wanted deep. It was a lot of colleges, man.

Sound like me, bro. Georgetown, they definitely wanted me there. You got a lot of miles on your motherfucking knees now, motherfucking feet. They shot. Feet tender. I already know. That's why I don't fucking give.

Feet tender. I could be too, though. They shot. Feet tender. You know that. Your feet get tender. You know what's next, right? Your back go out.

And then your dicks go out on you. My feet good. I had to turn the mic. You got to be stretching your feet. you. My feet good. I ain't starting your mic. You'll be stretching your feet. Yeah, I'll start your mic. You're stretching toes out of the sticks. Now my feet good. My feet good.

These niggas flexing. My feet are like, oh. It's crazy. Hey, y'all worse than them too, man. That's the best part About this man Have fun with this shit For sure

I want to ask y'all A question Like we said Y'all a big expression To us Early on It's probably been a while But what was that

Initial thought When y'all came together To start the show Y'all remember that Far back It took Yeah It was

Fuck you John Be funny Nah bro Y'all been successful A long time It was like six years ago. Y'all remember that phone? No, but what happened was,

it was nobody out there like us in the podcast space. You had Joe. You had... And Joe and Norrie was on some different shit. They was busy catering. Joe wasn't even doing interviews. He ain't had nobody on his shit. Him or Roy was doing anything.

And Wisney was only catering to the older cats, you know what I mean? So we said, we're going to tap in the game and bring the young cats here and bring the flavor. But at first, we were like, we're going to get our shit off. They didn't even give us time to do us because we wasn't even doing interviews. It was just me and Gil. But what happened is, everybody

started hitting us up. KD would be like, yo, man, I want to come on the show. When? Tomorrow. We'd be up in New York. And we on the show. When? Tomorrow. All right, we'd be up in New York. And we was the boys that was moving around. Dudes wasn't moving around.

They was just shooting podcasts and everybody get on the couch and they get on the couch. A lot of people got a rude awakening and realize you ain't got it. It ain't you. It's not your thing. You know what I mean?

And the thing about me and Gil, we waited until we had, Gil had a million followers. I had half a million. That's when we started. And we knew we had people that listened to us every day anyway.

Yeah, sure. A lot of people come out and say, oh, damn, I used to do this or I used to do that. I'm going to rap, play ball. Let me start a podcast.

Don't nobody listen to you. Nigga, they watch you. Play sports for entertainment. Nigga, nobody. So a lot of people shit flop because they don't have that audience. And then you got motherfuckers that's been boring their whole life.

Trying to start a podcast. My nigga, you never was funny. You never was entertaining. You never was interesting, bro. You be Canada Dry your whole life. Why the fuck would you start a podcast? Who the fuck's going to listen to you? So it's just something that everybody think they could do.

But we understand numbers. We understand that the average podcast only lasts about six episodes before real niggas realize they wasting their motherfucking time. They stop. And then anybody else just, you know, go any longer. 50, 60 podcasts. They just motherfuckers that can't look

themselves in the mirror and be like what the fuck am I doing yeah I think what they did on what y'all do on social media too help a lot too

like y'all niggas interaction this nigga fucking karaoke all that crazy ass shit you hold the camera for this nigga in the rain that's still one of the

funniest videos ever bro I used to sing with him his group back in the day you know karaoke me hold on nigga I wanted to ask you was bro. I used to say that when we was a group back in the day, you know, don't karaoke me. Hold on, nigga. I wanted to ask you. Was you, like, literally outside with this nigga when it was raining?

It looked like, I felt like you was in the car or something. How did the fucking... But that's what I'm saying. When I first watched it, I thought you was there when you started cussing this nigga out. If I was in the car with my motherfucking old car getting wet. I was like, this nigga's out here. I drive expensive shit, man. Yes, sir. And you see how hard it was raining, my whole

fucking side of my car would have been fucking wet. Wallow snapped on that nigga. I had to hold my hand over my head. I had to hold my hand over the car. I wouldn't do that. I ain't doing that shit for y'all. No, because I'm thinking the motherfucking video was gonna be a little quick.

The nigga was hating on me. Fuck it, man. I run out real quick. My hoodie get all wet. I got clothes in the studio. I change out real quick. This nigga, I came out. This nigga was motherfucking up the block.

He was far enough. I'm like, what the fuck type of time he on, man? Then he running off slow and shit. Then as he run up, I realize he done took his shoes off and shit. I'm like, then this nigga, every time I think he about to stop, he keep going. I'm giving him the eyes, dude.

Like, now I got shit. My shit is done. I'm like. Net ass nigga, man. Oh, no, you just going. One more line, nigga. You done. And you can do that

What the fuck is you doing man Nigga was hating on me man Nigga Nigga was hating on me Nah that shit is crazy man I never go out there again though How that feel though Like I get

You rap And now you got every rapper That wanna come on your podcast And it's something that you did You know like they probably I don't say they probably Looked up to you Looked up to you as a rapper that want to come on your podcast. And it's something that you did. You know, like they probably, I don't say they probably looked up to you as a rapper. Fuck you mean you hating me? That was a joke. He tried to throw a shout out at me.

I know they fucked with Wayne. That's good. That's good. That's all good. They fucked with Wayne. But to have you now is the platform they want to go to. All joking aside though, for real. Because every rapper want to go on y'all platform.

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and all our youngins understand that we don't want nothing from you we don't need nothing from you all we want for you is the best so we see you slipping we'll call you outside of the podcast yo bro fuck is you doing that

you want some dumb shit so when y'all just see the podcast shit and y'all see the love y'all just see the podcast shit and y'all see the love, y'all don't see the conversations that go on behind the scenes. Yeah. When it ain't even no podcast going on.

Yeah. And it's not just rappers, it's athletes, it's a lot of athletes. Right. It's a lot of, and they just like, damn, y'all the only dudes

that ain't trying to take, motherfucking Kodak, black try to give us a million dollars, try to send us a million dollar wire. Right. I said, man, nephew, what the fuck is the matter with you? No, I just appreciate y'all.

He got mad at me. I said, no, we're not doing this shit. He really got mad. I said, nephew, what the fuck is the matter with you? Like, you got to understand what the day we went down there,

it was like Memorial Day or something. It was a holiday. So, we like, he taking long as shit to shoot the interview, but he here. So, you know, we busting it up. We talking.

But he just like, hold on, wait. Whole time, he trying to get the motherfucking money. But the banks is closed. And we don't know what the fuck he trying to do. We don't know what the fuck he trying to do. So, he's snapping on his team. I'm like, neff. So, when I realized, he like, yo.

No, my father pulled us to the side. He really wasn't supposed to tell us. But he like, dog, I know we looking a little crazy right now because we has been supposed to shoot. But he want to surprise y'all with a million dollars. He want to get y'all. He like, no. Hey, we ain't taking that shit, man.

Like, but Neff, it's three days later. Neff still talking about, send the bank in and call me. He's like, come on, Neff. We appreciate you, man. You know what I mean? We love you. Is that why you started Million Dollars Worth of Game, though? Like, when you started doing it on the phone?

For niggas to give us a million dollars? Nah, I'm saying, though. Nah, I'm talking about. We started the game, though. Jeff would be like, nah, I didn't go What I want to say be He started me in Oswego Come on, what's important?

He started me in Oswego Really, really I started me in Oswego On Instagram Y'all remember I just used to get A young nigga's game Back when videos was 15 seconds

Sure You know what I mean? So it was just something that I was just organically doing. And then when I came home, cuz was giving out game on a different side of things. Don't go to jail. I'm telling you. All right.

All right, nephews. I think it's sweet. You're going to be doing a thousand days to the sunburn to fuck out. You know what I mean? So, and then eventually we just came together. you're going to be doing a thousand D's until the sun burn the fuck out. You know what I mean? So, and then eventually we just came together and

you know what I mean? Nah, that's alright bro. That's what I think. Like you said man, the dope part about it is take the entertainment outside of it. Like,

which I pour into people, inspiration I get to people, not even the people on your show but the people watching it. Like you said, y'all touch a lot of people and that's the dope part about it because you got

a lot of shows that want to entertain you. They'll do anything for clicks. Y'all doing something positive that people pouring into and y'all getting that love back. So when y'all see y'all go to different neighborhoods,

it ain't no issues regardless of where y'all at. It just says, test me, so salute to y'all. We showing niggas to live, bro. Live your life. Live your life.

That nigga did 7,300 days in jail, bro. I done been locked up, shot, do all kinds of shit out here, man. Stop throwing it out there, nigga. You got grazed, nigga. You keep always throwing that shit out there like you did a shot

after you was bleeding out. Ugh, I'm ready to die. Nigga, spray your hands. Fuck! Fuck! You got grazed in your hand, cuz. Like a motherfucking Graves shot. So what happened, man?

Stop doing it out there. Yeah, I got shot. Because we was thinking they got shot like this. Yeah, I got shot. I got shot like 50 cent times, too. Like some poison and other shit. We got shot three fucking times, bro. You got Graves.

Just don't listen to that dumb ass nigga. That was a great one. What the fuck is you talking about? We got shot. From here. You're fucking. Because you was running. You shot somebody, bro.

I was running. I thought you was. He shot you. I was running. I thought you was supposed to stay there. I was fucking blind. You saw my. I was running. That was. All you see was grease. You fucking right.

I got skinny. All you see was a flesh. It was grease. The nigga on the drawl. I got shot. I got shot. Fuck. I was going to stay there.

What you going to do with that? Who the fuck knew? He beat me to it. Fucking you saved me. You still popped your dumb ass. Fuck you. He beat me to it. Fucking Usain Bolt. Fuck you, dude. It was cool. I was out there at night, nigga. Fuck you, tough.

That's why I'm saying you got grazed. You got shot and went out. You had no security, man. I mean, you ain't had no surgery or none of that. They built you up. Threw some alcohol on you. You go, man, it's grazed, man. Get the fuck out of here.

You ain't even coming down here for this. I could shoot him right now it could be a hole this big in his fucking leg dummy but if it don't hit no fucking bone dummy you fucking could go in there and be like alright patch him up make sure that shit ain't infected get the fuck out of here

you don't know cause niggas they ain't have to pull no gun out on you they just socked your dumb ass. Roll all up under the car like you work at Jiffy Lube and shit. Yo. No, you got to work on me. You need smart blokes.

Listen, listen. This guy was fucking sooner. Listen. Yeah, fucking one time. Yeah, fucking sooner. Fuck, man. You keep talking about the one time. Then he got mad at me

because I ain't do nothing. I'm like, you shot him. You was a bitch. I was bitching. You keep talking about the one time. Did he got mad at me because I ain't do nothing? I'm like, you shot him. He was bitching. He was bitching. He was bitching. You got to buy the guy. You ready. Sometimes you got to evaluate shit.

They can punch you down. He socked him. He socked him. It sounded like a 22-1-0. That shit was like. Yeah, man. That nigga dropped. Rolled under the car.

I had to retreat. That nigga had a dead out, so you know he didn't have perfect vision. But he sucked you right on the foot. Yeah. I rolled under the car. I had to retreat. You got to know when to hold and know when to fold. Nigga was under the car until the nigga left.

Because you can't get me under there. See, they think we're crazy. They don't understand. Nah, I remember hearing y'all talk about that shit. They thought you didn't hear that. Shit was real. But no, you know, it was just like, we grew up in a place where it's though,

the old heads would be on the corner, talking shit all day, but they'd see you doing something. Hold up, what the fuck is you doing, man? Stop that dumb shit, nigga. I'll tell you, they will always put the check

in, but they'll be in their own world. Yeah, right. And that's how we is. We in our own world, but if we see something, we're going to say something. If you reach out,

we're going to be like, man, what the fuck? Look, Carl, what's the name, man? Who? The main man that played for the motherfucking, played for the 49ers.

What's up with nephew? Man, you ain't gonna believe this. He going out bad over the situation, man. The girl got it. Let me call this nigga. What's up, man? It's always over, too. What the fuck is going on with you, man?

God. No, you don't understand. Listen, man. Yep. Don't do nothing to that girl, man. Let me talk to your uncle, man. Put your uncle on the phone. Yo, you know that nigga out there,

San Francisco, crazy. About that little Tenderoni. She suck the shit from the back, man. Put your uncle on the phone. Yo, you know that nigga out there in San Francisco, Ray, get crazy. About that little Tenderoni. She suck the **** from the back, man. What? She suck the **** from the back? Let me go out there. Get out there now.

This nigga Ray going, this nigga Ray **** up. You know this, you know this. First time you was in the jungle. You know it was that guy's ****. First time you got your **** up from the back. He coming again next day to go to my hamster. I can't play. I can't play. You see what I'm saying?

That's what I'm saying. How long are we going to be You want to stay out. I need to stay out. I need to stay home. I need to do some games. Fucking young kid, bro. You understand,

they different now. They demons. They come, they come. These professional chicks, they come. They had all the wifey, the wifey, all the wifey ingredients.

They not do anything. Come through. Make your, you know, y'all, y'all, y'all young is easy. They get the,

they get the fucking strip Alfredo. Y'all niggas go crazy. Oh my, she the one, bro. You can't believe, she through the frozen strips, you dumbass,

at practice somewhere. You come back, she got the jersey on, ass all fat, cause she got a body done up. You come back at the practice, you come back, she got the jersey on, ass all fat cause she got a body done up. You come back at the practice, you like, bro, she the one. We ain't gonna believe this, bro.

Your team, your whole team laughing at you cause three players in R.A. Haddon now came cool. But her girlfriends, they like, look at him, look at the rookie. He ain't going for the whole joint. Oh, that happened to me for real. You all done loved seeing me. Only happened to you for real. Come on, come on. I don't think about the whole job. That happened to me for real. You all in love. See? Come on.

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Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. to the side. I said, boy, one, two, yeah. I said, what you mean? He said, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I was fucked up. I was fucked up. I was fucked up. He was big. He's a good guy. Yo, y'all niggas hate me. Now he ain't talking to niggas on T.

He ain't talking to niggas on T no more. I left for every spot. Yeah, what's up with T, man? Oh, I don't fuck with them niggas with a T no more. I left for every spot. He's meeting with niggas in the locker room. Hey, what's up with T, man? Oh, I don't fuck with them niggas, man. Yeah, he's saying shit. No, I ain't. He fucked my bitch.

He came at my bitch. She gave him a double. They had her first. She gave him a two-hand death twist right that night. Shut up. I love you, baby. Woo. Woo. He got another hand spring.

Oh, my name, y'all. All that dumb shit. Now he's saying he and the joint. He and the joint. Yeah, I don't fuck with shit. He and the Jordan. Yeah, I don't fuck with Josh. He tell the other team, that nigga be hating, man. That nigga's hating. That nigga hating on the young niggas.

Nah. No, no. What they ain't telling was that the second nigga went through the same thing before him. He was in the club like this, Josh said. Yeah. Yeah, he fucked her.

So let me ask you a question. You was a DM killer. You slid in a DM. Nah, I met her. I mean, I had just moved to Atlanta. Oh, shit. She got it. Atlanta different.

That's a different place. Nah, I was a rookie. Oh, nah. I got to Atlanta. I had just moved there. Oh, my God. What year was this? 2009.

I seen her at Justin's. Yeah. And I just moved there. Oh, my God. What year was this? 2009. I seen her at Justin's. Yeah. And I had met her. We had got cool. Let me ask you a real question. What? Was you tongue-kissing her? Like, on the right?

Nah, nah, nah. I was never really a kisser. He was tongue-kissing her. That's why. He was in the club. Josh was like, oh! He got the whole team, bro. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's oh, man. You got the whole team, bro. That's crazy.

That's crazy. That's crazy, bro. I was like, who, brother? You know what I'm saying? The whole team is crazy. That's crazy, man. Lay up on us. You got a thousand limbs here.

That's a thousand. You got a thousand limbs. It's a baby shower. That shit be crazy. That shit be crazy. That shit be crazy, baby folks. I love it. You got a thousand lips in this. I still don't know a fucking story about these niggas.

But it's food, man. It happen to everybody, man. Yo, this nigga crazy. Oh, shit. This nigga straight up. Straight up. A thousand lips was retarded. Y'all crazy, man.

Man, that shit crazy. All this, but you know the crazy shit? You know what's so crazy that niggas don't tell you? All this shit that y'all young niggas go through, we all went through

that dumb shit too. And we ain't that young. And it was hard. No, hold on. Let me tell you a story. We're not. Y'all young, man. How old is you, man?

I'm 37. You still a young blood, man. One time, right? I'm talking about when still a young blood, man. One time, right? I'm talking about when you was... Oh, yeah, when I was young. One time I had this little shorty, right? Oh, shit. So, you know, back then

we ain't had cell phones and shit all way back then. So you had to call a motherfucker, right? Or beep a motherfucker, right? So I meet this shorty. This other shorty. Bad little motherfucker. She was cold.

I'm waiting on her to call me all day. She text from a number. I call her number back. I say, yeah, somebody called. You know how it back. I know back in the day you get a beep. Don't show you who it is. Somebody called.

She was rude. She say, yeah. I'm like, who this? They like, what? I'm like, who this? So they just say, it's Keisha. I'm like, I've been waiting for you to call all day. I'm like, where you at?

It's a pause. I'm like, I'm up Germantown. I'm like, I'm about to pull up on you. What's the address? Text me that. Give me the address or whatever. We go through there. It's me and him.

I knock on the door. A girl come to the door. She like, what's up? I'm like, Keisha here? She like, she looking at me. She like, yeah, she here. Hold on. She walk in. My bitch come

to the door. I just turned around and start running. I'm standing there, right? So the whole time I made it short, her name Keisha, right? When I call and she pick up, she just expected me to know

her voice. So I'm like, who this? She's like, what? I'm like, who this? She's like, what? Keisha. It just so happens she said the same name I go right I've been waiting for you to call all day where you at bro I'm not catching the delays

or nothing what I'm like where you at I'm up Germantown this nigga pull up bro I pull up Bob when I've run he stay there I said what'd you do while old Germantown. Bro, I'll pull up. Bob will have run. He stayed here. I said, what'd you do while I was old? Nigga, I put the Mac down. I got that shit

right for him, nigga. I was filling up his slim back then. Fuck is you talking about? That nigga, he was back on good terms that night because of me and my mouthpiece. Is that true, cuz? Nigga, I was talking, man. Fuck is you talking about? You know what I mean?

I don't know what the fuck he told us. I told us some magic shit, man. I was on some shit back then, you know what I mean? What I wanted to speak on, too, though, is I know from all three of us, we appreciate y'all niggas for bringing Kim and Mase together, too, bro. Like, that was big for us, bro. Because we all grew up. People just need to talk, man.

Yeah. A lot of times a conversation just need to be had. And then once the conversation is had, you realize how much love you had for a motherfucker. Yeah. Has anybody been anybody else that y'all brought together like that? I know that's more polarizing, but. I think

we bring a lot of people together because it's like you know, anybody that fuck with us, they know we share resources and we don't be on no sucky shit. Yeah. But I think you know, anybody that fuck with us, they know we share resources and we don't be on no sucky shit. Yeah. But I think, you know,

in our culture, especially the black culture, a lot of this shit be all because the conversation wasn't had. And it'd be people in between. Especially now, it'd be like,

it'd be so many people in between. Me and you might could make some moves together, get some money together, but your man might be like, no, man, I people in between. Me and you might could make some moves together, get some money together, but your man might be like, no, man, I don't like dude. I don't like dude.

He ain't bringing no value. That nigga just sitting around with some bullshit. But me and you trying to handle some real business because we think like we on the same time, but it's like,

it'd be somebody in the middle and it'd be, man, he did. And then you not liking somebody because you ain't liking or not kicking it with somebody that you put me doing business with somebody or something all because y'all ain't have a conversation

or somebody came in between y'all think about how much money they would have missed out yeah if Meeks don't see how it all started was Meeks came on the podcast and he just kept it real he kept it real man he like I used to wear cam sneaks that was my brother he thought I had more money than I had but I ain't have it and he just kept it real. He kept it real, man. He like, I used to wear Cam's sneaks.

That was my brother. That was my brother. He thought I had more money than I had. He thought I had more money than I had, but I ain't have it. You feel? And sometimes when you,

you see how genuine a motherfucker is, I can only imagine that Cam was sitting back watching the interview like, damn. And that's my nigga, man. Then he came

and expressed that it wasn't that man. Then he came and expressed that it wasn't that serious. You know what I mean? And then now they getting millions on top of millions of dollars together that they never would have gotten if they allow ego and a lot of shit that don't matter

keep them apart. In our culture, I think, I know that there's a lot of people out here for everybody, but I know, in order to, you gotta be,

you gotta be a good, a good cat. You just gotta be thorough. And a lot of times, thorough is about, not just about making moves and talking shit, it's about helping

motherfuckers along the way. And I think the platform we build, it wasn't, see, it's not all about what you see in the episodes. It's about what you don't see

sometimes. Like, a person like Simba, man. Yeah, that guy. Shout out, Simba. There's no bullshit. I remember, I remember, I remember I was talking

to Simba, right? I first connected with Simba on the internet because he was just hot. Yeah. And I hit him up. And I'm like, damn, so one night,

it's like, I know on the East Coast it was like four in the morning. We talking. He like, man, I'm like, damn, so one night, it's like, I know on the East Coast, it was like four in the morning. We talking. He like, man, I'm like, man,

this shit ain't really, I'm like, no, nigga, this shit, you hot, don't, you know what I mean?

Because sometimes, we can't see it, but somebody else can see, see it for us. Like, you know how sometimes, we be in the world, like with your family members,

you might see something in them, but they don't see it, and you keep trying to convince them. Like, it wasn't about convincing somebody. It was just like, nigga, you tripping. Ain't nobody rap like you out here.

Don't nobody rap. So every time we had a chance, we threw him on our platform on the tip. Came out and we knew that we had influence to connect people. So we threw him on the platform. Anytime we, yo, pull up. Talk that shit on his joint. He go crazy, motherfucker.

He's like, damn. I even like LaRussell. I'm the first nigga that threw him up. Ain't nobody throw LaRussell. They wasn't thinking about LaRussell. I'm like, nigga, you hot. He like, yeah.

Man, good looking out. The next morning, I threw him up. Three hours later, three labels called me. I said, listen, I'm going to just give you his number. Def Jam, Roc Nation at the time, and another joint. I just gave him. I said, listen, I'm going to just give you his number. Def Jam, Roc Nation at the time,

and another joint. I just gave him. So it's like, that right there mean more than anything than just making money. Yeah. Because it's about

how many people do you help when you help them? Because now they're helping their whole circle, their community, whatever. And it's about good shit. Like a lot of people in this joint,

you know what? Me and Gil don't really fuck with a lot of niggas, and I'm going to tell you why. Everybody quick to complain about the problems that's going on, and they try to monetize the problem, the problem talk. Yeah, black people,

they doing it. What the fuck is you really doing, though? Yes. Like, it'd be weird shit, though. I'd be like, we don't fucking know. All this extra deep dope. Oh, yeah, I'm on this,

I'm on that. Nigga, what did you do? I know me and Gil went and got that money and put $4.5 million to minority businesses in our community. I know we always in the community. Yeah. So a lot of times it just be weird to me because it's like, when we checking a young boy, we saying something, I'm talking to you about protecting life and freedom.

I ain't talking to you about, yeah, I don't give a fuck what you doing out here, Neff. But if it come to a point where I got to, and I't talking to you about, yeah, I don't give a fuck what you're doing out here, Neff. But if it come to a point where I got to, but I, I could, and I'm talking to you based off experience. So I'm not just talking about the young boys.

Nigga, we was young boys. We was on some dumb shit. I remember this time I was bitching. We robbed the motherfucking off-duty cop. He tell, I said, cuz, I don't think

we should take the gun, leave the gun. He told me, you's a bitch. No, look at how I'm just saying. This was back in the day, man. The statute of limitations is up. But we out there robbing shit one day, dude, tell me you're a cop. No, look at how I'm just saying. This was back in the day, man. The statute of limitations is up. When we out there robbing shit, one day a dude told me, you're a cop. I'm like, oh, shit.

Oh, man, give me, don't take nothing from me. Let's get out of here. I know they make no sense. I'm like, fuck. I already come up with it. He screamed, ho, I'm a cop. He was doing that shit. I said, I don't give a fuck what you is.

You better hug that fucking tree. Hug that fucking tree. that fucking tree this was before people was talking about the tree shit he did and I'm like I'm backed up I'm like listen I ain't got nothing to do with this I'm saying to myself if they come down you better understand bro

I look at a lot of times When I get up in the morning I just be like God really put protection on me Yeah I was a fucking idiot bro We on the car ride

From that joint And we playing nice I got a stolen cop clock with C notes in my hand. I'm in the front seat. I'm like, oh, that nigga in the back seat

like, cuz, I don't think this is right. I'm like, I'm not in the mood. I'm just listening. I'm like, fuck this.

I told you. Listen to the difference. Hold on. Listen to the difference. Not to cut you off. He had been all through the juvenile system. And that's a guy going. So I'm just

like, he back there like. I tell, listen, and then they tell me I'm bitching. Cause I say, listen, man. I say, y'all pull over at this store. I gotta get something. Cause I was gonna get out the car. I was out. No, you're bitching. You ain't cool. You were straight. I'm like, we in this. I'm like, we straight. We want some real shit. He ain't say

let me out, though. I'm like, yo. I gotta go to the store. Just drop me off at the store. Let me grab something. I'm like, I in this. I'm like, let me out. Let me out. I'm like, you want some real shit. He ain't say let me out, though. I'm just saying I got to go to the store. Just drop me off at the store. Let me grab something. I'm like, I'm getting rich. I'm like, though, we not even in our neighborhood, bro. I don't give a fuck. I don't walk next to the neighborhood. And I just like, I'm damn, this shit, something's going to happen.

They going to call us. They coming for us. I'm like, this dickhead done did this dumb shit. But what I'm saying to say that is that we did dumb shit, too. Yes. Everybody try to departmentalize they dumb shit. I'm going to say that is that we did dumb shit too. Yes. Everybody try to departmentalize they dumb shit. I'm going to do dumb shit. I can't.

But you got all these people. You got all these people out here that. My whole thing is let's just have a conversation. I'm going to tell you some shit. You're going to tell me some shit. You're going to give me some game. Outlook. I'm going to listen to you. I'm going to school you some shit. You're going to tell me some shit. You're going to give me some game. Outlook. I'm going to listen to you.

I'm going to school you. And you can take what I, you ain't got to take all this shit now. But I don't want you to go down to penitentiary and I don't want you to get killed. Especially if you're getting used to successful. But it's not just them. We talked to the youngins in the hood. It ain't got no other lane.

You know what I mean? And you know why I think the youngins adapt to us? Because the eyes don't lie. think the youngins adapt to us? Because the eyes don't lie. When the youngins look at us, they like, they really been in the water with them sharks. So we can listen to them opposed to some old head coming to your school with a baggy ass suit on. Talk about, do you want to stay in school?

See, the message I give to them is how they want to hear it. How they need to hear it. Oh, you're going to get the seeds knocked out your fucking watermelon. You're going to be laying there. One of the loneliest leaves on the ground is when you're laying there waiting for that ambulance to come. That shit sound like it's so far away. And you bleeding the fuck out.

Hey, I'm more alive. That motherfucker's still four blocks away. Trying to get through traffic and shit. And that's one of the longest leads, Renef. So we try to keep you before you get to that point. Before you about to go kill him. You got to understand, bro.

We bump into motherfucking young boys who just start crying on the spot. Man, y'all like my dad. My dad when I was young. And I told the white nigga that was crying, I'm He's been like, my dad when I was young. And I told him one thing and I was crying. I'm like,

because I didn't hear what he was saying. He was like, you my dad. I'm like, cuz, I got a fucking son. I didn't know what he was saying.

I'm like, he was like, he didn't look like you though. I wasn't even like that. He was my son. Because I'm just one of those, you know, dudes that probably was like,

he probably was like, you my dad. If you need to say that, because he was like, you like, he said he had said that, because he was like, he said you like my dad, but he's like, I said, cuz, this is my son. I come over here with my son. I correct him. I'm like, nigga, you lost your virginity in jail.

Cut the door. Oh, shit. No, that's a lie. That's a lie. I thought he was my son. I'm like, damn. It was deep. That shit was deep.

He got a pot. My man behind the camera said. It's deep. A man behind the camera said. Hey, Wild, can we get some game on the, we in this space, bro. We know y'all big with the brands, man. Can we get some game on the branding deals? The game is, y'all out here. T got to utilize his leverage

from playing in the league and get somebody to connect with all the brands. You got different departments. Okay. You got electronics. You got the beverage space, and there's multiple beverages. You got hydration drinks.

You got liquor. So there's multiple shit right there. Then you got athletic wear. Like, it could be Foot Locker, Finish Line, this place, you know, whatever. Michelin Nest. Michelin Nest. Then you got men's products

like condoms, deodorants. Ro. Shout out to Ro Sparks. Ro Sparks. Beijing. I'm about to get on your life. But what I'm saying is I'm trying to be serious.

Then you got motor vehicles. Yeah. Then you got sports betting. It's all these different categories that can be sponsors on here. One of these ones might say, you know what? DraftKings might say, okay, we want to be the presenting sponsor of your show. That means they name on the marquee. Presented by DraftKings.

Boom. That's the big money and then everybody else they could be ad reads or y'all could do different activations with them they could sponsor

y'all location see how this on the wall this could be Rose Sparks or something say yeah we gonna this how much we need for you know

for that so everything is about just really this shit is like really about just finding partners partners is everything we believe in the partners.

I remember early in the game, we had, we was reading ads and people thought we was crazy. Different podcast. Oh, man. You should be like, oh, man, come on, man. We ain't doing no ad read. All right, cool. This is where the money at, bro. What the fuck is you talking about? I remember y'all started early with the funeral home. I went and got them.

I went and got them. We went and got real joints. Yeah. I'm talking, we get, I'm talking about, and we, and I used to sell minutes. He went and got real joints. Yeah. I'm talking about, and I used to sell minutes. So I sell four minutes for 20,000. A minute was an ad. That one minute, because we only was dropping four episodes a month.

So that one minute, this episode is brought to you by Boy's Funeral Home. And as soon as I go, you'll see they shit pop up. They logo pop up on the joint. I go to hit them. Information, bang.

Gets you in and out of there. We had Spray to a Hyundai. Yeah, I remember that. Sprank back to a Bobby. So I tell, one thing about us, we share the game. It ain't never been anybody

that call us and we ain't sprinkled a game and say this, this shit is easy. You just got to be on top of your business. It's called the podcast business, not the podcast.

Yeah. Fuck the podcast. That's why everybody keep fumbling because they just, oh, let's get a joint. We got a podcast. Let's get...

Nigga, get the business together. Make sure you own... We get together and we talk a bunch of shit but we don't know how to get no money. Yeah. Make sure you own your IP.

Million Dollar Server Game is owned by two people, me and him. Every episode, me and him. That's the only people that own our shit. We own our shit. We only do licensing deals.

Okay. Whereas though, you're paying us to license our shit and put it on your platform or whatever. You see what I'm saying? Or go get the ad money for us, and we bust it down. But other than that, we own everything. Our back cattle are all this.

So, you know, it's about ownership, and it's just about doing business. But it's easy, bro. Like, right here this weekend, you got all this shit out here. All these different brands out here doing activations. I've seen Bose out here. I think New Balance might out here, Mitchell & Ness. I've seen a lot of different brands.

Adidas. There's a lot of brands out here. Somebody need to be from y'all team. Connected. They need to be going to all these different parties, connecting with all these people because every one of these motherfucking parties this week, there's somebody that's a shot caller within them brands. Yeah.

You know? And what college you went to? I went to Wake Forest. Okay, cool. You know what? Now, you know what? It's how small the world. One of your peoples would be out and be talking to one of these people

from one of the companies, and he like, oh, because I got Jeff Deere to pick up. He'd be a Wake Forest alum. It's crazy, man. Yeah. It's wild. He'll be the motherfucker that's really in charge. Like, no, I'm a big Jeff Faye.

I love it. Yeah, let's get it. That's how small the world is. Or you go and tap into the alumni. You always got somebody that know where he buying the whole. And say, this is what I do. I need people that's working these days. Oh, yeah, what's the name?

He work at motherfucking Sony. What's the name? Work at Beats by Dre. This guy work at Gillette. He's the head of marketing. And now it's a wrap. But you got to sit there and strategize and say, write a piece of paper.

Y'all sit down together and say, each one of y'all in each category what do y'all like? You got to be able to say what do y'all like? And if you can figure out what do y'all like then y'all can write y'all list down and that makes it

and it makes it that shit makes it way better. Let me see if I got something for y'all. It makes it way better. Nah, we appreciate that, bro. No, because what's going on, I'm going to show y'all some real shit. What's going on, one thing we proud is, proud of ourself in, is schooling motherfuckers, man.

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Yeah. But now y'all seeing this, y'all get an idea. So now y'all know how to go out there and pitch and what y'all pitching for. You see what I'm saying? Because everybody's

trying to get some wisdom. I remember I called Simba one day and what I told Simba, I said, Simba, you need to do something about that. You see what I'm saying? And that was for me telling him, yo told Simba I said Simba you need to do something about that you know what I'm saying and that was for me

telling him yo Simba do something about the sports shit do this and that and then he called me one day he's like nigga you know I just got a deal

from such and such I'm like what I said well I'm happy that's my blessing so that's why that shit come back because my joint

and Gil and Gil know who I am I got a real big thing. He off camera, he said, you put a million dollars in my account. So what I'm saying is,

so what I'm saying is, Gil know who I am. When we go somewhere, I'm the dude always talking to the managers, the public relation people, the marketing agents, whatever.

I talk to them because this is my life. This is all I give a fuck about. I don't give a fuck about too much. So when I'm telling somebody something, I be like, I hope this nigga listening. You ain't gotta listen. Yeah.

I go, you know, I ain't got no money issues. My money longer than train smoke. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah. And what makes it so easy about me and Gil, we get a shitload of money just to be ourselves. We ain't got to be

nobody else. So I'm telling people, like, this is where the money at. And I introduce people. I don't be with that bullshit. I ain't getting nobody way. We never had that in the game. I understand that. So I know my responsibility

in this game to be is to connect people. That's it. And I get the fuck out of people's way. You know what's the name that you need? That's why I just gave y'all.

But I just gave y'all the average person don't know what the fuck that sheet look like. And that's our shit. That's something I just edited out of one of our decks.

From out of one of our decks. He took us off it, edited it, and just sent y'all to... Look, I just created that. That's crazy. This was from our shit. I just edited that and gave y'all the bottom part.

That's all you need. Now y'all can get an idea. Okay, so each one of y'all, y'all write y'all shit down that y'all really like, y'all really enjoy, that y'all really talk about. Because a lot of these sponsors, it ain't nothing but some shit that you think. Think about it. In your closet.

Your closet, your sink, and your kitchen. You know what I mean? One of y'all might cook. Y'all like using McCormick seasoning. But damn, McCormick. And it's all about what type of play you trying to make. Yeah. You feel me?

Y'all can have the podcast. You can be presented as a sponsor. You can come on just as a sponsor. Y'all can get the podcast and post on my Instagram and a certain amount of story posts. It's different levels of getting money out here. And y'all got to know how to support each other. I just think in our culture everybody wanna compete with each other

instead of eat with each other and I be seeing it like that's why the brotherhood is not as strong because I see so many people fall out and be like y'all ain't gotta fall out because you gotta understand this it's gonna be days and I was telling Shannon Sharpe I was like yo man it might be a month it might be two months

but when you come to the show and when I'm talking about the show of life, Gil's name is on the marquee. If his name on the marquee, I got to support him, man. I got to make sure he cool before he go on that stage. I got to make sure he got anything he need. It ain't no hangups with us. It ain't no, and then a month or two, my shit

might be on the marquee. I might be killing shit out here, and he going to support that. That's why people can't win. Everybody, we 50-50. We ain't gotta work. We wake up and we cool. But I think, and that's what we're trying to show and be the example of what it look

like. Most people ain't got money because they fell out with the motherfucker that they can make money with and he thought they could make money by they self. And it's like, you goofy ass nigga, you needed that partner. Me and this nigga, man, we like day and night. And we bounce off each other and it's organic and it's like, you goofy ass nigga, you needed that partner. Me and this nigga, man, we like day and night. And we bounce off each other and it's organic and it's just us.

Why would I want to do it by myself? I would never want to do that by myself. That's stupid out here. That's why we believe in getting partners in our process of what we doing. But let these people tell it, I don't need nobody. I'm cool. Yeah, you're okay. you by yourself on the podcast

who want to watch that boring shit that's true bro where the energy at man so I got one perspective yeah what the fuck you need that come on man

nah for sure you ever thought about putting like signing other podcasts we got something coming I can't speak on that we got some big shit coming bro okay but no you on point

you ain't saying nothing wrong. But we got, we got, we got some, see, you was too nice in the league, man. Nigga slam on you. You don't remember before I got in your way? Boom, nigga, shut up, nigga. I hate me if you did. Nah, I didn't like that.

You got some of my foul highlights. I don't fucking dig up. His combination is wicked. The greatest player ever. What? No, he didn't. No, he didn't. The greatest player ever. I hate Mike. What? No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

Who? Mike, he ain't never do Mike. He ain't never play with Mike. No, I'm just talking about Brian, man. Fuck is you talking? Oh, Brian that nigga. I'm just saying, Mike. You know what I mean?

I never see Mike play and I be hyping Mike up. I be like, you never play Mike James, cuz. Like, you be doing that shit. Mike, man. Fuck Mike. I'm like, I never see Mike. I got the fucking 48, nigga. I seen Mike fucking play. When did you see? Oh, I was in jail. I'm fucking 48, nigga.

I seen Mike fucking play. When did you see? Oh, I was in jail. My fault. You didn't see. I never seen Mike. And I be talking shit. Y'all niggas don't know nothing about Mike. All right, though.

Mike is in jail. I be like. And I'm like, the one young boy talking to him. Bro, you was in jail. You never seen Mike play. I seen LeBron and Kobe play. I was like, take your little dumbass home. Pass your fucking curfew.

Fuck you doing out here. Say some foul shit like that. And I never seen Michael Jackson. I'm really emotional, right? I never seen Michael Jackson perform either, man. That was my nigga. That's like my uncle. That's all wrong. That's fucked up, man. Literally. To be an old nigga now, you can't really say nothing. But a young nigga that seen Drake and all these niggas

perform and I'm like, fuck you talking about him over here Drake and all these niggas perform, and I'm like, fuck you talking about him over here, you ain't never seen that nigga perform. I'm like, damn, man. I always wanted to cry at a Michael Jackson concert, man. So what's up? All of them. Just because Mike was a different type of nigga. Mike come in the joint, he come on the stage,

the lights go, he got a half a pound of activated shit dripping off the stage all through his face,. He just say one little thing. Hello, I'm Michael. Ah! Fuck! Mike! Oh, shit!

I see people pass out. I was like, yeah, pass out. What about y'all? You got no celebrities like that. I'm like, damn. That Michael Jackson Super Bowl, different. That nigga Mike. That nigga Mike come out and walk in the Super Bowl. That nigga say, she's out of my life.

Hey, Mike. A hundred people passed out. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him.

You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. You just see him. Everybody too. But DMX, remember that video we were talking about? No, I'm going to tell you some real shit though. Yeah, everybody in the world was like, that DMX shit is retarded. DMX was here and Gil always said that was the greatest performer. But I'm going to say some real shit. You was there again for that? Hold on, what?

I was at DMX concert in Philly. That was the greatest shit I ever seen in my life. But I'm going to say this though. Rest in peace to the legend. Rest in peace. I just think the impact was different, not because, you know how everybody try to compare yesterday to now? It wasn't that.

The issue was it was more hype and it was more magic on their celebrity because you never seen these motherfuckers. It wasn't about all these artists. It was like, bro, I've been to everybody's concert. Future, Drake's, I've been to them joints and shit. I've seen a bunch. You never like, you'd be lucky to see fucking Nas. You'd be lucky to see fucking Nas you'd be lucky to see you know

whole went into an era where they start going to these tours and all that but the Aries motherfuckers they dropped the album maybe three years

you ain't got no fucking money to go see Prince man true she's another nigga I'd be like oh shit they go Prince you know

but that's true purple red like you don't have to see R. Kelly though you know we talk about R. Kelly oh that nigga love that nigga was in R. Kelly You know, but that's true. It's gonna be purple red. Like, like, like, you don't have to see it. You don't have to see R. Kelly, though. You know,

we talk about R. Kelly. Oh, that nigga love, that nigga was in R. Kelly. I ain't gonna say nothing. Well, you said he was at his house. He was at his house.

That nigga got wet with R. Kelly. They was in the pool together. What's that on the pool together? No. You were always in the pool together. Yes. You were always in the pool. You were in the pool.

Oh, man. You was in the pool with R. Yeah. You wasn't, you ain't get in the pool in that middle of the house. Why'd you spend the night, though?

Why did you spend the night? Everybody spent the night. See, he tried to, see, he tried to, he tried to, he just got, let me go on the tape. He can talk on there, man.

Yeah. I was with the label. We was recording, you know what I mean? Yeah. Whole label spent the night. Damn. Did you ever record a record with him?

Yeah. No, they recorded something else I'm not I'm just kidding that was a real joint man I seen it in his phone I was like damn what the fuck I'm gonna throw that joint up

but that's R. Kelly he get a pass that's R. Kelly man he get a pass he get a pass. That's R. Kelly, man. He get a pass. You get a pass. But I just think people compare. Y'all say, man, it's totally different, man.

Motherfuckers ain't have access. And I think and it fucks shit up a little bit now because people, there's no bullshit. I was at this spot with Lil Durk, right?

And he was in there and it was this dude. He was in Philly, right? And it's this dude I knew, right? And that nigga tell his homies, man, fuck y'all worrying about that nigga fool, man. We got the same watch on, man.

We on the same shit. I'm like, oh yeah, this fucked. That's when I knew that this whole shit was fucked up because people really being delusional shit because they got too much access and it's too close proximity to artists and they think they them now.

They think they big and I'm like, dog, you don't got, you got the same watch. I don't know if They think they big. And I'm like, dog, you don't got, you got the same watch. I don't know if yours is real. But what I'm saying is like, like it's the mindset. Like it's that putting your shit to the side.

And then it's a gift and a curse because it's like, you got to keep coming out here. You got to keep moving. You can't going high no more. You can't, you know what I mean? You can't, you got to keep, you got to stay on them.

They want to see, like they want to see, like, they want to see you coming in the game with that shit on as a player now. There's certain things that's added.

They couldn't do it back in the day. Them niggas had baggy suits on and shit. Mike was, oh yeah, I ain't tell you about the story when I seen Mike.

This nigga was hating on me, so listen. Oh, please. I seen Michael Jordan. I never seen him in the game, right? We in Chicago, right? We in Chicago.

And I knew it. I said, damn, this nigga know me, right? So we in Chicago. So Mike come through, and it's like, he was getting out of the black car, so me and Gil like a little bit down from him. I'm like, Mike, what's up? Right?

Mike did one of these, and I was like, cuz, did Mike speak to me or not? Who was he speaking to then?. Cuz, did Mike speak to me or not? Fuck no. Who was he speaking to then? He like, this motherfucking dude. Like, he trying to get no tip. Mike! Mike!

Come on, man. Nutt ass niggas, man. No, no, no, no, no. Cuz, cuz, cuz. He did like this. I said, Mike, Mike! He did like this. And he just kept going, but he pointed at me.

He looking pointed at me, man. He did like this. And he just kept going. He pointed at me. He pointed at me, man. He did like this. No, he didn't do that shit. So he knew who he was, bro. And I never seen him on the field, but to see that shit, I'm like. Nobody did it. I'm in the court. I'm like, because see, listen.

See, see, Jeff. This is a different joint. This is a different joint. On anything I love, I'm not one of these new niggas. I don't give a fuck. If I see you, it's on. I don't know if I see

what's his name, right? He in the joint, right? I seen this motherfucker. I'm like, damn, he got a tender with him too. Motherfucking Bob Johnson from BET. So I get on the elevator.

It's inside of All-Star Week in Chicago. I get on the fucking elevator. It's Bob Johnson, man. He married me. Hold on. No, he ain't married. He got a tender with him. He not married. He cool. So I jump on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone.

I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone.

I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone.

I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on the phone. I get on like, man, come on, man. You're doing too much. And I'm like, this is fine. Since we already see you, come at us. Okay, baby. Wow.

Hey. Fuck out. Nigga just trying to shoot at my bitch. Nigga just trying to shoot at my bitch. Nigga, fuck how old you get. They don't never leave. You just trying to shoot at my bitch. This is one of my greatest

fucking weeks in entertainment. And then after that, me and Cuz together, we downstairs in the motherfucking restaurant area in the hotel. And I think it might be Rich Carlton, one of them joints in Chicago. I said, Cuz, oh, shit, man. Come on, Cuz.

Just walk with me. Like, where the fuck is we going? They go, Spike, nigga. They go, Spike Lee. So I walk up on him. What's up, baby? Spike Lee played us, man. That nigga looked at me like.

Spike Lee played the shit out of us, man. What the fuck is you doing, man? I'm like, damn. I'm like, damn. So I thought Spike would know us. I'm fighting the power out of him. Spike Lee. I'm like, damn. I'm like, damn. So I thought Spike would know it. I'm fighting the power out of him. Spike Angus. I'm like, this nigga got to know me.

Fighting the power. He walked up on Spike. Spike was like, what the fuck is you doing? You making all that noise, fool. Yeah, he did say that. So I'm like, I'm like, let's take this pitch. I had to pull Spike to say, nigga, do the right thing. You hear me?

Yeah, it's good. Fuck on with you, nigga. I posted out there and threw the pitch up with the black fist. Do the right thing. So Gil and Si, I thought they was going to get you. Fuck out.

They all on the same height. They all on the same height. But this nigga seen Nas and that nigga felt the faint. He seen Nas and fainted. Nah, he fainted,

but that's my man. On the airport, he was in the plane. I was flying fuck with him. That's his man. I love Nas. He's my favorite rapper. No, Nas is a fucking legend. I seen him and I'm walking up

it's me and my woman. I'm like that's Nas. But he pulled this real quick. I walk up I say what's up nigga? I love you nigga. I was so charged up right that

he said, how the fuck would you get? I said, fuck all that. Come here, niggas. I'm like, why did I say that? Fuck all that shit. Niggas be tripping. Nigga like, I fuck with you too.

I said, fuck all that. Come here. Like, I'm like, why did I say fuck all that? I was too charged to fuck up, man. Nigga telling me I fuck with you, too. I told him fuck off. He hugged him, man. Come here, man. That nigga was like, saying where you held door, Kelly.

He got fucked. He said, there you go. No, but I'm just saying, like. R is that nigga, too. No, but I'm saying it is. R ain't that nigga, man. I'm not saying he not. I said, listen, one thing about me, I never front on R. like R ain't that nigga man. I'm not saying he not. Listen to me. One thing about me, I never front on R. R was R anytime I was around him.

I'll let you chill in his jacuzzi. In his house. I ain't got nothing bad to say about R. Oh no, nigga,

you was in one of the tapes. You were in a couple of tapes. I mean, but I'm going to say this though. The reason like that, me and Gil used to be arguing all the time

back in the day because we used to go back and forth in the car from Reasonable Doubt till it was written. I was Jay-Z. He was Nas, man. All this shit better. I'm like, no, this shit better. And we used to be in the car all the time. It's like, no, switching joints out. Like, no, fuck that. So, you know

what I mean? It's just like, thank God for hip-hop. You know what I mean? It saved our life. Yeah. And it's like, no, fuck that. So, you know what I mean? It's just like, thank God for hip hop. You know what I mean? It saved our life. Yeah. And it's like, it's just a mix of the sports and music. And it's something that was just great to all of us. That's why I'm thankful for it.

And that's why I'm thankful for shows like this where y'all just doing y'all thing. And I never want people to believe that it's enough. Because there's never enough perspectives. You basketball, football, whatever. Music. There's never enough perspectives because there's 8.2 billion people on the planet. Everybody is different. Motherfuckers won't watch all because

like, yo, man, I can vibe with them, man. This is my vibe. They might not watch me and Gil. They might think them two niggas is crazy, which is cool. But then they might watch all the smoke, or they might watch the pivot, or they might watch Gil and them. You is crazy, which is cool. But then they might watch all the smoke, or they might watch the pivot, or they might watch Gil and them. You know what I mean? So it's like everybody got to just do them and try to be the best at what you're doing

and learn as much as possible so you can craft your shit out, so you can craft your lane out, so you can craft your moments out. Like, look, y'all here. A lot of sports shows is not here. Yeah. Y'all got y'all's. So keep just getting the game on, man. And I love the stories, man. y'all here. A lot of sports shows is not here. Yeah. Y'all got y'all. So keep just, just keep getting the game on, man. And a lot of stories, man.

Keep doing y'all things. Does it give a different perspective of shit you don't even be knowing about? Especially in the locker room. You know what I mean? Man, hold on, man. Talk about especially in the locker room. No, you're in the locker room stories. No, no.

He's a locker room. He's from the locker. No, that's what you was telling the Jules about. He was, though. Oh, I was, man. About the first time. That was him. No, I see. No, I was. About the first time. That was it. No,

I see. No, it was. About the first time he went in the NBA shower room. We didn't know they was naked.

Yeah. I was in there, man. I didn't know they was naked. I'm like, oh. How'd you start

Major Figures, bro? You know, I know you're the CFO of the figures. No, I'm going to tell you what happened.

I'm going to tell you what happened. And it's real shit. Yes. So when I first signed Gil, right? Yeah.

I signed him to a contract, 10 albums, $1,500, right? Damn. $1,500? $1,500 cash. What did he get on signing that? 5,000 tens.

5,000 tens. Okay, respect. He signed, because it was looking big. He like, oh yeah, bet I signed it. He was a college dropout.

He was a college dropout. So what happened was, I come up with it I'm like listen we gonna do this shit because the roles that I that we play now

it's the same roles Gil Gil just like he was you know I rapped too at the time but Gil was just he was really into it

and I'm like and I'm telling him like nigga you really really good nigga he like what I'm like come on we going to the studio

I had my man peanut take him to the studio and Gil didn't really he really wasn't with what? I'm like, come on, we going to the studio. I had my man, Peanut, take him to the studio. And Gil didn't really, he really wasn't with it. So I'm reading magazines, puff. I'm reading magazines and motherfucking Master P and all them. I'm like, look at this nigga, man. This nigga killing it.

Rap Page Magazine. I'm like, this is what we got to do. The independent shit. Gil like, man, I ain't fuck all that shit, man. You tripping, right? He start going. And so what I would do is, once we go to the studio, we'd do a couple songs. Back in the day, they used to have these tapes.

Cassette tapes. Maxi joints. But it'd be like they had joints that's three minutes long, five minutes long, and then you had to make all that shit. I go steal a bunch of tapes, put it on the tapes, and I take them and get all the drug dealers and niggas I knew that had car systems. And they'd be banging that shit. And he'd be like I knew that had car systems. And they be banging that shit. And he be like, yo, man, the boy can't be banging that shit up.

I said, cuz, I told you, you hot. You see what I'm saying? I was his manager. The record label owner. I was all that shit. Public PR, all that shit. And no, I just believed. I just knew something.

And so when I came back home, it was like, it's on. We're going to do it in a different way. And I know my part that I play, he play his part. And that's why the fuck we win. You see what I'm saying? At the end of the day, when we go in the game, I know Gil going to score 30. I'm going to get a couple of fouls.

I'm going to do what I got. I'm going to disrupt, distract the people. And I'm going to do me on a court. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's why I know they'll beat y'all to them too. Yeah, we'll beat the shit out of them. No, no, no. They're going'd beat y'all two on two. Yeah, we'd beat the shit out of them. No, no, no, they gonna beat y'all. You fucking crazy.

You never, listen, T, you never got a four pointer in the big three, he's better than you, nigga. Fuck you, Charlie. If that's what you're holding on to, then fuck it. Okay, shit. Yeah, I'm a shooter. He's a shooter. I'm a shooter.

DJ can lock you up. And then you're trying to, because he disrespecting your game, he trying to act like he not gonna play, oh, I'll let you play him, like you're trying to, because he disrespecting your game, he trying to act like he don't, he not going to play. Oh, I'll let you play him. Like, like you ain't who the fuck you is. Play me a nigga named DJ.

Nah, we supposed to play one on one. Who else? Cut this shit out of DJ, man. Jamal Crawford been ducking him for a year now. Jamal Crawford, I am tired of that nigga. Give me JJ Crawford. Steven Jackson been ducking me for two fucking years, fucker. Steven Jackson ducking you?

I DM'd this guy, I said, Neff, were you ready, nigga? Tell me where I'm pulling up. He scared, he ain't even DM'ed me back. What? I didn't decide. I said, Neff, were you ready, nigga? Tell me where I'm pulling up. He scared. He didn't even DM me back. What? I crossed the shit out of Matt.

I ain't talking about Jamal no more, man. I'm tired of talking about him, man. Jamal's scared to death. Was it like a straight up five on five or just three dribbles with you and Jamal? No, man. Oh. They ain't talking about how you cooked my man.

Don't say it. Y'all seen it. Y'all seen it. Y'all seen the video. Don't say Donovan Mitchell. He cooked the shit out of him. Give him some peace. I knew he was about to say that. And have you seen what I did?

I got two moves off him. Gil, go keep it real. Because you cooked him. I was there. Gil, go keep it real. That's your camera. Gil, go keep it real. Well, I got two, three points off on him.

I cooked him. I cooked him. I'm never supposed to get no points off. him I cooked him I cooked him I'm never supposed to get no points off I had six he had six points ten to seven think about that shit he won

I'm going to play hard I wasn't playing hard I'm a real play hard. Fuck you mean. I wouldn't play hard. Okay. Talk to him. I'm a real player, too. I can't like, you just going 60% and I'm going 100%. No, nigga, I'm nice to you. Oh, hit that.

All right. Fuck you mean. Oh, yeah, we're going to get the documentary shot. So where do we pull up to? Philly? Where do we pull up to? Oh, oh.

Oh, oh. Oh, let the record reflect. Let the record reflect. So y'all can know. That's why I don't disrespect it. Don't play with him, my fucking game. I ran up on Brian. Nigga, when we checking the rock up, Brian?

What, at McDonald's on American Day? Brian said what? He did run up on Brian. I said, when we, and I said, your son too. What's up? Ain't nothing happened. I was waiting. Shit happened.

I'm back. So y'all. What the fuck is y'all talking about? Brian looked at the nigga like... You's a fucking... You's a hater. He ain't fucking... We could go with the video.

It was 15 minutes. We're gonna see the video. It was 15 minutes. We're gonna see the video. We're gonna see the video. We're gonna see the video. We're gonna see the video. We're gonna see the video.

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We're gonna see the video. Brian like... Brian was serious. Let's pick it up with me. Brian like, don't be serious. Let's pick it up, man. I said, all right, cool. But it was 15 basketballs and he didn't do nothing. I told Rich Paul that.

I said, nigga, what's... Brian, I called Brian. What the fuck is you talking about, man? So what do you want me to pull up at? Yeah. Come on, man.

We can do it out here this weekend, bro. I'm here. All right. We're here right now. Tomorrow. We're here. We morning. Tomorrow morning. We're going to line it up.

Why y'all keep trying to get a nigga playing a footlocker, man? They got a court. They ain't got no real fucking court. They got a nigga trying to foul me into some choice and shit. It's not no choice. It's an activation. Nigga 10's motherfucking ankle on a motherfucking shell top

and all that shit. That's a real activation. Now we, Taz's motherfucking ankle on that motherfucking shield top and all that shit. No, it's a real activation. For real. Yo, you ain't see the big three? I'm serious. No, you ain't see. Listen, cut. You ready?

Oh, hold on. Fuck all that. You get on Shay talking all that goofy ass shit. Nigga, we saw your ass in the motherfucking lobby. We told you. We can go right now, nigga. You told your assistant, where my Amex car at. We gotta get out of here. I gotta go practice.

I had to cheat. We had right now. You just sat down with Shay Shay and was like, nah, that nigga ducking me. Talk about JT. Keep calling me. He ducking me. He fucking ducking me. We was bossing together. You didn't tell that story.

We know he was fucking ducking me. You gotta figure that story. We was fucking ducking, man. This nigga had all the fucking professional badasses. One thing about the OGs, we don't do no fucking lying. You lied on that profile. He lied right there. Nigga ducking me. Listen, I'm going to say this. You know, when I got them big points in the big three,

I came down. Who gained my props? Clyde Drexler. I said, I'm looking like you. He said, no, baby. You're looking better than me. I said, it was over after that. It was over after that.

Clyde Drexler. Clyde's a legend. Clyde's a legend. He said, no, he's not. Clyde's a legend. Clyde, you're on your way. Clyde's a fucking legend. Q was hitting, Q was hitting on me

at year two. I'd be like, damn, Q, I'm going to start. He said, no, I'll just listen. Go on the bench. Q was hitting on me at year two. I was like, damn, Q, I'm going to start. He said, no, Wild,

just listen. Go on the bench. We need you over there. I said, Q, what the fuck

are you talking about? He said, Wild, let Gil do it. You just, listen, I need you

with me on the bench. Fuck you need me? You ain't even on the bench. You standing

up. I said, Q, what the fuck? I said, all right, you right. I got the

big plays. I said, see, we'd have been the fuck up. You got a nurse,

bro. Who's sitting out there? Yeah, I was with big points. He out there yelling, nigga, I'm a granddaddy. Nigga what I'm wondering? I got the big plays. I said, see, we'd have been the fuck up. You got a nurse, bro. Who's sitting out there? Yeah, I was cool with big points. He out there yelling, nigga, I'm a granddaddy. Nigga, I'm a grandpa. He cooked it because. You was a fucking professor. Nah, I'm not.

He was my professor. That's fine. Nigga, I ain't a professor. Yeah, yeah, it's real different. When you ever seen a tween, tween, tween, uh, uh, uh, I don't know how to get back to you. Yeah. Think about that. Niggas in in the proves not even doing that

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Cus. Cus. Cus. Cus. You never did that. I did that shit in high school. When have you ever seen Jeff go tween, tween, tween? A nigga garden. Close it out. Bring it back. Straight the hell out of the back to a judge.

That's the shit I did in high school. Show me. I ain't got to be. My shit probably out YouTube. Blurred. Hey, cuz. Let me just say this, cuz. I never did no shit like that.

We going to let the record rest. You always had to gather yourself to shoot. Y'all, y'all, y'all. You said shot Johnny, man. There's a lot of hate going on. There's a lot of motherfuckers. A lot of motherfuckers. Hello, Keto. Hey, cuz, hold up, hold up.

A lot of motherfuckers be talking shit, cuz. Give him top, give him 10 motherfuckers you'll cook in the NBA right now. Give him 10. Oh, yeah. Give him 10. Fuck, I'm talking. This nigga about to lie. 10 motherfuckers you'll cook this in the league right now.

Cook, too. Because, listen, Mitchell already said you can shoot better than you'll cook this in the league right now. Cook, too. Because, listen, Mitchell already said you can shoot better than a lot of people in the league. I shoot better than 60% of the league right now. Well, go ahead. Ten motherfuckers, you'll barbecue right now in the league. Come on, cuz. Just give him five. Because I don't be knowing these young niggas'

names, man. Okay. Rob Dillingham. Hey, yo! Go ahead, cuz. Go ahead, cuz. Go ahead, cuz. That's one. You disrespectful.

You can't be Reece Shepard, nigga. Reece Shepard. Come on, cuz. Jose Alvarado. Bet three. He in the league. Yeah, he in the league. Fuck you mean.

Right, yeah. What wrong with you is he in the league? Four mean Right What wrong with you Is he in the league Four niggas on the nets That's y'all That's six Yeah that's seven The white boy

That back up Steph Curry Alright The left handed White boy Is he I'm cooking him He a bootleg me. Um.

You think you can beat Isaiah Thomas? Colin Sexton. Hell, nigga, are you crazy? Who else, cuz? Come on. Man, hell no. Um, there's one more. I know it's another team. It's four people.

Ben Simmons. I ain't got to guard that nigga. Yeah. He can't shoot. Ben back. You see him with the Clippers. The fuck out of there. 12 points, y'all niggas.

Tell me he back. He back, baby. If I end up with 12 points, I'm crying that night, nigga. Yeah, the good guy. The fuck was wrong with you today? How many points you average in high school? He got the record. I'm high school? He got the record. I'm just asking.

He got the record, man. Come on, man. Don't play with me. I'm an all-time assist leader, man. The greatest high school. No, I said points. All-time assist leader. The greatest high school Philadelphia ever had, nigga.

I started at Ben Franklin, dog. Fucking legendary coach Kenny Hamilton. Fuck you talking about. Send everybody to the fucking league, bro. How many points you have? Yeah, I don't... I don't give a fuck about how many points you have.

We just talking about the points. Did you say... Let me just ask you this question. I think it said a sentence. No, I'm an all-time assist leader. Let me just say this. How many points you have? Let me just say this.

When I was in high school, the top three guards in the city was me, a kid named Sean Smith, and a kid named Rashid Bey.

Now, that's what every Daily News article said, every Enquire article said. If Ted Soleri ain't call your mother's house and get an interview and you wasn't

in the motherfucking Daily News, you wasn't nothing. I lived in the Daily News, nigga. What we talking about? The first game he came to, right? Ted Soleri came to, right? We was playing the public league leading score, right? Got the nigga out of there. 22 and

9 and 5. Bro, what we talking about, bro? We ain't talking about how many points you got. Shout out to your career. I'm just giving you I'm just giving you I'm just giving you Listen.

Shazzy Gilliam. Damien Gilliam. Listen to me. See, our high school wasn't like y'all's, bro. Like what? Y'all niggas got one good nigga that shoot all the time. No, I had five niggas go D1.

Everybody on our fucking team went to college. You got to understand, teams were so good that niggas that didn't even get in was going to college. That's my team. No, it's not your team. You're on my first team. Only you went to college. No, Courtney Lee. He was gunning. Courtney Lee and Robert Vey went to the NBA. They was's my team. No, it's not your team. You're on my first team. Only you went to college. No, Courtney Lee. He was gunning.

Courtney Lee and Robert Vey went to the NBA. They was on my team as a freshman. I had to cook Courtney Lee too, though. Damn, C.J. That's 11.

That's 11. That's 11. Give me one more team because we could cook four niggas on the team. You said the next. Give me one more team where you could cook

four niggas. There's a lot of teams. Toronto. Oh, shit. That's just 15. That's a pool of guards. Toronto. Oh, shit. That's just 15. Who they guards? Nigga, you ain't better than R.J. Barrett.

Yeah, R.J. Barrett. Grady Dick, a bunch of ass. Quick R.J. Barrett or forward? Quickly. Grady Dick. See, I ain't saying that. I'm not saying that.

That's not on duty. You won't cook Grady Dicks. What? Childhood CD. Emmanuel, where you go? Gotta use that Nick's hand, man. You taking Emmanuel quickly?

Yes. Bro. All right, wrap this shit up. Oh, man. Listen, Emmanuel,

herky jerky and all that, but I'ma get mines, dog. I will cook anybody, bro. I'm a natural scorer. Simple. How many points did he average

in high school? You know yet? Oh, 14. We ain't gonna find out. 14. He said that 14. Quiet as hell. I mean, I had a bunch of ballers, man. I respect him. It's crazy, though. Definitely. Before we get out of here,

man, salute to y'all, man. Getting that Super Bowl, man. That's right. Salute to y'all, man. Greatest on Earth, man. It felt good to see y'all with the team, man. Greatest on earth. Greatest team on earth, man. Y'all had a squad. That's my squad. I cried, man. Congrats, Waller.

You know, I believe Green. I cried. Who your team? I'm a Falcons fan. They bums, man. Come over here with my Eagles team. Yeah, y'all fucking bums. We are.

Shout out to my homie, though, Ray Ray McLeod. Yeah, Ray Ray. Shout out to Ray Ray. But listen, man. We're going to get him on the Eagles because we like that nigga name, man. Yeah. Ray Ray, man. That nigga name, Ray Ray. He's to Ray Ray. But listen, man. We gon' get him on the Eagles because we like that nigga name, man. Ray Ray, man. That nigga name Ray Ray, he gon' get busy. You know he from the ghetto.

He gon' get busy. Yeah, but my Eagles, man, we did it, man. What the fuck you mean? Yeah, they my Eagles. Come on, man. You know we did it. We the biggest on Earth. Hold up, hold up. He trying to slide something in. Hold on, hold on. Hold, hold, hold. Me and Saquon had a real conversation. He the parade yesterday,

me and Saquon had a real conversation. He said, man, I said, listen, we're not going to go back and forth about this. You're my favorite player. And I said, because we're going to get to the point of this shit. Because I'm trying to figure out what's the issue because me and you switched teams this year. So we both switched teams.

Me and Saquon switched teams this year. Who was your team last year? The Chiefs. But I'm just saying, man. I'm just letting people know, man. I came home. That nigga was a terrible fan. He was at that motherfucking parade with you.

Yeah, I was there. I was down there. That shit was a nice shindig. That was my squad back then, but shit happened. Rams. Man, get the fuck out of here. Hey, that nigga thought Westlake was a wrestler. Yeah, who?

Oh, boy, for the Rams. Oh, you're a Donald. I'm sitting down, right? I'm in Miami, right? So I'm in the, I forget the name of that hotel. So I'm sitting there, it's Subo, and I'm talking to somebody, and I just turn around, like, wow, hello. I'm like, yo, man, it's Subo, and I'm talking to somebody, and I just turn around, like, wow, hello. I'm like,

yo, man, what's going on, man? The whole thing, I'm saying, okay, this is the boy that be flying snow and coal in there, right? That motherfucker was huge. I'm like, what the fuck? This dude, so everything about him is like, he a wrestler, so our assistant at the time, he walk away, I'm like, damn,

dude, WWE. Because he's like, yo, man, I got to get with you on the podcast. I'm like, you're already cool, walked away. I'm like, damn, dude, WWE. Because he's like, yo, man, I got to get with you on the podcast. I'm like, you're already cool, man. And I'm like, damn, how are we going to talk about wrestling? So he walked right over there, disappeared or something. She's like, Waller, you know what that is, right? She said, that's Aaron Donald. I said, no.

He said, call fucking Gil. I called Gil. I said, yo, man, some wrestler boy named Aaron Donald he said Aaron Donald where the fuck is he at he ain't no fucking wrestler I'm not saying he was a wrestler that nigga was I'm not saying

you know so that was but he wound up being on one of my teams and he won a chip that nigga crazy for sure man listen man

we gotta get up out of here but listen we wanna say thank y'all again man we appreciate y'all man y'all motivate us y'all again man we appreciate y'all man y'all motivate us man keep motivating the world we appreciate y'all man

love man keep doing y'all thing man appreciate it for sure man for sure it's been an honor man listen we out of here same place same time Mitchell and Ness

we appreciate y'all love as always shout out to Ray shout out to Dex see you soon my boy we'll be back next time Cleo 520 The Volume.

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