Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Grant Williams on being TEAMMATES w/ Jeff Teague, GUARDING Joel Embiid & Steph Curry, Luka vs. Tatum

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 34 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Grant Williams of the Charlotte Hornets. Grant talks about becoming teammates with Jeff on the Boston Celtics, playing for the Dallas Mavericks, and settling the debate between Luka Doncic and Jayson Tatum. Grant talks about LaMelo Ball getting snubbed from this year’s All-Star Game, and talks about guarding Joel Embiid in the playoffs, as well as Steph Curry in the NBA Finals.Timeline:3:07 - Episode Start5:30 - Grant's Jeff and Brad story8:00 - Playing with Hornets9:30 - LaMelo All-Star snub11:30 - Kon Knueppel14:00 - AAU squad & Peach Jam story18:30 - Playing at Tennessee21:00 - Injury struggles in college25:00 - Grant's "Fat camp"27:45 - NBA Draft29:30 - Boston workout story34:00 - Rookie year with Celtics36:30 - NBA Bubble life40:00 - Bubble hoops went crazy43:00 - Lamar Odom & John Starks46:30 - Evan Turner 1v1 sessions53:00 - Guarding Joel Embiid55:00 - NBA Finals vs. Warriors57:30 - Smoke with Draymond Green59:15 - Fight with Detroit Pistons01:02:30 - Trade to Mavericks01:03:45 - Luka vs. Jayson Tatum01:06:45 - Reaction to Luka Doncic trade01:10:00 - Injury this season01:12:30 - Card collectionAll lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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boost mobile.com. All right, man, we're back. Another episode of Club 520 podcast. I'm your host, I'm your host, I'm a movie productions, man. It's about the coach D with the Flakeyrafoul, man. Starting the episode off, man. But you know what it is brought to you by Boost Mobile. Listen, everything is changing. Your rent, your groceries, everything

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Has anybody came to DMs and ran down, you about the parlayes? You messed up for him, Matt? Games ago. Who games ago? I was going to say, I should. Bumass. I was getting 10 points. I was saying, I had 20 and 9.

I was out there was my projector on what it was. He said, you were supposed to get four rebounds. You're doing crazy. Yeah, G, you was bullshit. Respectfully, dog. Respectfully, dog. Shereffin. Shout to Harrod, Batman.

Leader players alone, man. He didn't do any damn job, man. Last short, out leaves me, shout out to Stockex, keeping us fresh and it set as well. Like I said, I'm your host, DJ Wells. Special guests in the building,

as usual, introduce him last to my far left, my dog. Bishop B. here and out of the prayer leaves. How you what, nasty? Cool and nasty what's happening, baby. It's all, man. Listen, man, you know, we honorary Charlotte Hornets at heart,

gee, I don't know if you know, man. I'm sure. It's a lot of love. I know. We locked in. Jack said some crazy. All that. We got to get to that.

Yes, sir. We love there, grace. Since we here and I, we all... You all said Jet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect. You were in there. That's right.

Yeah. You were there. You were in there. But we are always say, man, get rid of all you niggas. See, I look at grass. I say, you know what? Grinnis, he's a blend. He's light enough to stay on the town.

I just always say, get rid of all the dark-skinned Diggas up. Man, God. Like the head league, man. I love the hornets. Me and DJ support the hornets through and through. I do too, man. No, that they not feel the love right now.

No, there ain't no love. Still to my right, my dog, young nacho, young T. How are you what? I'm hype, man. Got my young boy in here. You know, the biggest hornish fan, Jeff T. I'm excited to have my dog on the pie. Listen, man.

Shal and Horn is in the building, man. Also, underrated SEC career. We're going to talk about that for sure. My legend. Yeah. Listen. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what the numbers came in. I would say nowadays, you know, yeah. Got to figure it out. Yeah. Play, playing. Play for sure. No, for sure, man. Listen, man.

Charlotte Ports for it, man. Great wheels in the building. Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this, man. Appreciate you having. Like you said, the origin story before we get to your origins, man. Let's talk about how y'all linked up for the first time, man. I'll let him go first and I'll let him go first.

The one thing I remember the most is that he's the most probably my funniest. if not second funniest teammate I've ever played with. Because we played on a team where it was a year that I think we were up and down that year. Like in the beginning of the season. COVID, like, it was a lot going on. There was no such thing as like, man, there was no such thing as anything going on. No fans in the stands. Like, all we could do is freaking kicking at K walks and just vibe.

Yeah, it really was. Shout to K. Shout to K. Shout to K. And that's how you noticed Celtics back then. It was an interesting. Rosser. We had, me and Jet, I always think about this story.

One of the best stories I got is that I remember I was both going to Brad and be like, hey, man, just don't play us. It was like, it was me, him, Shemmy, and Peyton Pritchard. Yeah. And Brad was just like Kimba just came back and Brad was trying to figure out like what lineups. And, you know, Brad wasn't the type person to like like ever confront nobody. You know, trying to like let it happen, you know, let assistant coach just handle. So like it got to a point where we were just every single thing we were just, every single thing

we do. We have to look over our shoulder. We're like, all right, just choose one. Let's who. Like, one person go and see what happens. And I remember me and Jet was just like, yo, just let choose them. See what happens. Because, bro, you're so young. Like, he's the old head with no knees.

We're trying to get activated into the league, bro. Don't sacrifice your plans off. The thing is, what happened was, like, I had just played that last year. And we went to the playoffs, coming finals, all this stuff, the bubble. So I was, like, I came in, I made on some BS. Like, I was, I was tripping that year coming in the preseason, kind of felt like I had established myself. So then I kind of had to earn it back. So I was like, let me just hoop and stay ready. Like, let me show y'all what I got. Right. You know, go back and forth. I was crazy back then, too. So I was wilding,

Chris and coaches out. Yeah. Everybody was wilding out here. It was a bad year. It was a bad year. So, like, I was just telling him. I was like, yo, like, just choose. Let Schimmy play, because Shimmy looking over his shoulder every shot he missed versus me. And, and And at the time, they didn't tell me this until after, but they were like, they were trying to play Shimmy so they could trade them. Ah, that's not a B. They just don't, they don't communicate that type of stuff. So like, my thing came from us, we were like, yo, like, it's killing us all.

And then you had Jabari on the bench talking. He was like, hey, just buy your time, young fellow. Bide your time. Shout to Jambi, baby. That's crazy. Man, hell of order story. Man, let's get to yours, though, man. Obviously, from Texas, Moodoo, Carolina.

Oh, excuse me, North Carolina. What's the like playing for the Hornets man and growing up? as a Carolina kid. It's great because I grew up, like I'm from Charlotte too. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's like,

I grew up watching K Walk on the Bobcats and DJ Augustine and Raymond. Gerald Anderson. Dorriton. Cory McGettie. You know.

Orange Jersey. Nasty. You were. You're all. Seven wins. So like, I got friends. Like,

we remember bring back the buzz back in, what was it, 2016 when the Hornace even came back. Yeah. Like, like, it's cool to be on the roster and like impact went into a point where like you got a chance to,

one, make the playoffs. Yep. too, be on a team that, like, Shaw ain't never seen the type of success that we've had yet. Like, we, I think, other than 1998, and that's before anyone when I was born. So, damn.

Yeah, make y'all niggas feel old. But facts. So then, so then. So, next to you. No. No. We got nine, nine winning, nine game win a streak. Like, we win in the most games on the road.

So every friend that I know growing up in the city, He's like, yo, they're hype. Yeah. We got more fans in the arena than I think I've seen growing up. So this is the place to be around right now. This is a gold mine waiting to be struck. I always said in Charlotte. So it said that two years ago, even when I was talking crap to Dee White,

tried to tell him that he was making a playoffs two years ago. I just say it didn't happen. Yeah. But now we got an actual chance. Yeah, man, you're doing really good. Bro don't really believe in y'all. But me and DJ always. I ain't found a league.

I don't believe. Bro. How do you feel about, like, LaMello not making an all-star, bro? I'm a little sick just because, like, his stats might not show it just because, you know, it's in the, like, I feel like he's not making like all the shots right now to the point where, like, his stats are like 40 from three,

stuff like that, but like our offense runs through and with him. Like, we see our on-off numbers of him on the court, he impacts our winning to a level that, you know, it's hard to, hard to compare anyone across the league, like in terms of playmaking. Like, he's a guy that sets up our entire roster, like Brandon, I think it's our leading score right now for a reason. Yeah. Con's able to get the shots he's able to because

Like Mello creates that gravity, getting downhill, kicking out the shooters. And we just play fast, man. Like, shoot a lot of threes. And Mello honestly deserve, I think that All-Star nod, because they put, it's just the format this year, man, the U.S. world, like, they couldn't do it. I love that, right? Boy, you might get a job when you do, play. Yeah, last year.

There was nobody more upset than being here. I was so shitty, bro. Especially with how we were playing towards the All-Star break. Like, I know we didn't start great. Like, we were 4-14, but we were injured. Like, there's a lot of things going on. Once we got a healthy roster, you start seeing the success of our team. And, like, I was so well put together, honestly, by JP.

Did a great job. Yeah, my God. A job of, you know, building a group around one another. So I think Depp had a great job of, like, making that All-Star 9. I think next year, we might have two, two, maybe three all-stars, depending on how we start the season. Especially with Khan, he came on, like, gangbusters, bro. He's nice.

Yeah, Jeff Love, man. We do a little bit of Jeff. I think he's rookie at your as my vote. I've been saying it from the beginning of the year. I think it's going to end up being a co-worker of the year. I hope so. He deserves. It's going to be a great-head and Grant Hill type.

Yeah, they think it's going to be. I think they go to the Ron. Mello, though. You think it's going to be a lot. I think Cooper going to win it. No way. Like he's, bro, he is damn near a 50, 40-90 season. Crazy.

Bro, one of the efficient. Most efficient rookie season, I think, NBA history. You already broke the single-season rookie record. Yeah, he's crazy. Bassett to 200-3. Or, sorry, maybe he hasn't broken if he's about to break it. Yeah. And then Fastest rookie to 203,

fast as a player to 203s. Facts is. It's just, and Washington play basketball, like, there's not many guys that you play with. You're like, yo,

every shot you feel is going in. Like, he's on that level already as a great-night-old kid. And it's funny because that draft last year, they questioned the VJ. Pig,

they kind of was just like, kind, uh, maybe a little bit hot. But both of them players have showed it, nah, they're ready to hoop for sure. And you're super high on kind.

Yeah, that's one of my favorite players in the league, man, he's so efficient. I had that draft day thing when he had his workout. You know, remember the movie where it's like Vante Mac, no matter what?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Next to our assistant GM right during his workout. Vontay Mac, no matter what, because I felt like it was either between him or Vijay at that pick. Yeah. We're a Philly didn't pick. Yeah, we'll get one or the other. Man, I picked a good pick. Hey, it was a good. No, be here. Lemella, my top of all time already.

We are at that being. Yeah, I love Lambella. Well, sure. Yeah. Basketball needs a mellow ball, bro. Yeah. Oh, need players like that. Like, is a creative, creative mind? Yeah. Play fast. loose pause. He just has a good feel for the game.

Like there's not many people like that see ahead like he does. So he does a good job playing teammates in positions to be successful. And I think he honestly compliments every single person in our roster. Hmm. That is crazy. Yeah, he ain't got the ammunition now. Yeah, you got it off. I'll be texting you, Greg.

I know I got a little morning show over there. You're talking about it. Got a text. You're a hell of a breakdown. No, for sure. But back to great, man. Listen, like you said, Carolina, y'all, hey, you team, boy.

That team CB3 squad? J-O, yeah, my dog, Jay-O. Y'all had a squiddy. Harry Giles, hey, but we talked about him early in the morning show, and our injuries kind of changed his trajectory. Yeah. If you saw Harry Giles in high school,

Harry G. One of the ones, bro. HG was the best player in our class for a reason. He was over J.T. He was over Juanzo. He was over, shit. Josh Jackson was his consensus, number one. But, like, if he had his knee surgeries,

like, it's hard to imagine he wouldn't be a Chris Weber type of player. Like, he was special. Yeah. Play with and then also, like, just to watch. I played against him because he played at Wesleyan back in high school. So I was my, like, I played against him and Bam. Those were my matches.

Mm, damn. In high school. So, like, playing those guys. Did you give him work? Heck yeah. I beat Bam to the state championship, be him, blew him out by 20. I always joke with Bam, this is where it messed me up, my rookie year. I said, man, you haven't beat me much.

I beat him in Tennessee, beat him at high school. Grace always called me Bam's kryptonite. Then that rookie year, play him in the bubble. I think I had a record where I was like two or three games ahead of them and turned the over here. After they beat us in the bubble for the, for the, go to the finals,

he said, I think I'm up now, Nick. That's crazy. Shout to Ben, get your get back. Oh, God.

Get back. And the same shit nowadays, too. Me beat me in the last finals run too. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to talk about that, man. But now, what was that like, though?

Did you face any of the crazy teams? Because I had a squad in A. They had a crazy age, Jim Stewart. Yeah, what was your role on that team? Oh, my gosh. Role-wise, I was just like, honestly, I don't think I don't know if I started on that team. I think I was behind Q, like sometimes because we had, that team was loaded.

Yeah, sure. Alterie Gilbert, who was the top five-star point guard at the time. He just had shoulder surgery, so he was hurt. He was from the A. So he was nice. Yeah, Joe. Darno Rodgers, the five-foot three, five-and-four point guard. Yeah, I remember him.

He got buckets, though. He got buckets. He's the reason why they beat Virginia. Yeah. So, so then next, HG, myself, Q, and, shit, peace jam stories. We, we, playing Georgia Stars, we only had one loss at entire YBL season. So, like, we were one of the most accomplished EWIBL teams, whatever else there was. We lost Georgia Stars by one at Udoca, Wendell Carter, Bruce Brown, Jared Harper, like a bunch of names.

Peace Jam happens, we go, we don't lose a game, beat Mokane, which Jonathan Isaac, we beat, each one teach one of Johnson, I mean, Moe Cam of T. and Michael Porter. Yeah. Then we get to that semifinal. We play JT and the Eagles, St. Louis. That was back before Brad Bill Elite. And we were blowing him out.

We were about like 20. Like, damn near. Going to the third, fourth quarter, all of a sudden, Auturie gets cramps. And he's dribbling the ball up the court. Can't be past half court, fell over, like type cramps. Like, he was just turned it. We turned it over, I think, six straight times.

They get back into the game. Damn. Damn, I couldn't drill. Who the fuck was coaching, though? Like, why he turned like the Johnny? He didn't want to take him out because I think, I don't know why Darnell that ain't play. But, like, it was just one of those games where he was like, we're going to leave him out there. He, like, give him some pickle juice, whatever else, like, try and let him hook because we're up by so much.

Well, he should have been there. Yeah, right? He sounds in a row. Yeah. I was like, he was in a fucking. Yeah. I was John. I know.

I know. He's a five-star recruit, too. He's a five-star recruit, too. HG was in foul trouble with that game, too. I remember, because I think I was either our first or second lead to score in that game. And what's it called? Going down, turn it over, turn over, turn over, turn over.

They get back into the game. JT. H.T. Hooping, of course. And we get to the end of the game. I score. They come back, score. Come down. H.G. gets the ball. He told him, don't shoot it until we have our last shot

because we want to win the game. Yeah. H.G goes too soon. Hits to hook. hand hook or I think left hand wherever it's hook. We think we're about to win the game. They call a timeout. I get subbed out. They put Ian Boyd in. We're all on the bench. Elbow to elbow to elbow. Like we about to win this game up to

go to go to the final to play Georgia Stars again. All of a sudden the inbound the ball. We took JT away. I don't forget to do his name. Jordan Gilbert, Jordan something. Joe's a full court, double clutch at the buzzer. Heave game. Damn, man. That story. You know what's that. They ended up freaking losing by 30 to Georgia Star after that we were so checked out the rest of the season with the Vegas

and we were just having a good time. Oh, he's there for the vibes. At 17 years old. Hey, that ain't bad. Not a bad city to have some foot in. Not a bad city. All right, man, conversation good. We got some drinks flowing Barbie at work today, man.

Barbie. Barby. Work overtime. I watch the pod. My boys have to him. Barby. I'm talking to me. Look at Barby.

Barbie having a date. I'm good. How much you? Yeah. Boy, we'll got the corner three. It's Linahoe. I got quarter three,

my boy, Locke from the corner three. I ain't going to host you. Okay, B, appreciate the corner three. All right, B.

Right on B. She's all right. I'm going to guess here, boy, this drink going to be all right with the guest here. Yeah. Corner three.

All right, man, obviously killed in high school, went to Tennessee with some other schools that could have got you? Tennessee was the best school I had. I was a three-star. Yeah.

Like, I was thinking I was number 200 and something. class. Yeah. Oh, Grant. It was bad. I was chunky, bro.

I was a, you know. You was undersized big. I was to say undersized big, tweener. So like this is right around when Draymo was doing his thing. But like, yeah. Like people are always like, how do you beat these guys? I was being BAM. I was being like hairy like Harry like all these guys that were like brinked higher than me.

But they're like, this dude can't jump. Like not really a great shooter. You know, he's a post player. And so I remember even Davidson, like I remember calling Coach McKillop. He said, I'm never going to give you a scholarship offer. I said, why? Damn. He said, because you don't work hard enough.

Damn. That was me as a sophomore junior. I was like, I can't get off by Davidson. Like, I had my best office with Jersey, Charlotte. Like, I had. Bumbled that. Yeah, for sure. Later on, I'll give him credit.

Later on, when I went to Tennessee, we play him, he's like, the reason why I said that to you is because I needed you to work harder and, like, I believed in you and we didn't have the resources to support you or something like that. But, like, I think he was still just. Yeah, yeah. Did that motivate you though? For sure. When he said that, yeah.

He motivated to help me because, you know, I grew up in a family that I was. of Hoopers, quote-unquote, like my cousin, Slim Staddemier, who was nice at Zona. Oh. That's what you're for? Yeah, first cousin. Oh. Hey, forgot college.

Oh, real fucking fucking fucking. He's the best shooter in college, damn near his. I remember that. College, old cousins, all the time. Stademeyer's a fucking, fuck it. He shot better than JJ Reddick that year and they didn't want to give me love. That nigga had a burner. Yeah.

So big jersey, big short wearing that. Yeah. I did a workout with him? Yeah. And he only do perfects? Perfect. Oh, perfect. You'll be in the gym for two.

Okay. Explain that for the people who not. I do tap the in. Ever hit the room or if it don't switch every time, he don't count it. I would be fun. And he's that person that as a young kid, you throw him the ball. You can't jam him up. Yeah.

Like as a shooter, like he was like, throw it outside my body. Like, it was like, his workouts back in the day, I'd be amazed by him. He was just crap. We did a workout with him, bro. He was playing for the Hawks. Well, he used to. And he was back in the gym. And he was like, you're going to do the workout with us?

I'm like, yeah, we started the workout. He's like, don't count. shot another one don't count I was like shit that shit count for me then he kept saying no we only count it with his switch bro he was in the gym for two hours bro I was like I'm out damn bro that's damn but he was hitting every shot

but he was like don't count I'm like yeah that's crazy so slim even Damon so it's like that's my other cousin and it's like those guys like my pop played um in Venezuela but like tried to play for the Houston bullets and those guys back in the day so like just grew up in that family so like everybody used to

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on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I had offers from like Yale, like Yale, Princeton, all the I've been, you know, so that ain't bad.

It really came down to those, and then Richmond was the only other one. Okay. And I decided on Tennessee because I met our strength to coach, Garrett Maidenwald. He was like, I can change your body composition,

make you, like, give you the best chance to make in the league. And I was like, all right, like that was my main focus. And then I told my mom's because my mom worked for NASA. She, of course, black man. That's crazy. Yeah.

Black man wanted me to go to Ivy Leeds because she knows how the world of world works. Yeah. And so I'm telling her. I was like, I'm going to Tennessee. She didn't talk to like a month and a half. Two months. But then I told her, I said, I'm a graduate in three years, which, and I'm a, if I go back for my fourth year, I'll get my master's.

Like, I had this plan that I set out. And I told her, I said, but also I'm going to go for the MBA. But I said, went three years, got my degree. Yeah. Got freaking player a year twice. Man, a half you. Player the year twice. More two times.

Talk to all. SEC player of the year. Fresh white a year. Come on. Like, what made you not lead a first year? Because you wanted to graduate? So, no, first year, I wasn't. So I was only freshman team because Malik Monk, I think one freshman of the year.

Coach Barnes was like, hey, like, Coach Barnes, if you know Coach Barnes, he kind of wants his guys to come back. Yeah. And also, like, if he thinks you should go, he'll try and tell you to go. So he said, like, the reason why you ain't with freshman year is because he didn't work hard enough. So it was the same thing. Like, you didn't work hard enough. Yeah.

Went back that second year. And I was like, all right, like, my goal is to get player of the year. And also, like, Coach Barnes, like, that's what you should be. You should strive for player of the year. You should strive to be the best player in this conference. So that whole year, though, I played with an injury. So that whole year, I had, like, a periformis, like, sciatic nerve thing that I was dealing with that shot down my leg. So played that a whole season.

even after the year was over was dealing with it like that numbness in my leg couldn't like walk sometimes like there was a couple games that season like remember the LSU game I get fouled in the first half I'd landing on my back

couldn't feel my leg and got subbed out worked on it for a full half came back in the second half and played so then after that season I was like damn I probably should go but if I go test a draft process right now and I'm looking crazy

like you look damaged goods and then now you have a reputation so I just stayed at school and then went back for that third year and then came out that third, even though Coach Barnes wanted me to come back for the fourth. Oh, he was, wow. Yeah, I was like, I was like, yeah, I can't be.

What was like playing for a legendary coach like that? I know there's a lot of expectation from, especially in the college world. Yeah. Barnes is cool, though? Barnes is crazy, but he's one of the, like, it's cool for sure. If you has any player to play for Barnes, like, especially like PJ, KD, any of those guys,

they'll tell you, like, I got to save Barnes. Like, Barnes was, like, not cursing. Like, he, I got, like, I was taking my biggest accomplishment for Barnes making him a curse twice at me. Man. But, like, he was completely different. Like, he was crazy. Like, he made me, like, I remember there's multiple times I'm crying tears,

workouts, like running. He'd make you middle of a practice. Go versus climber three times. Come back and practice. Every time you mess up, go back to the versatile climber. Come back. Run to 17. And run another 17.

I'm straight. 85 and 2 to 17. Like, he thought it was a game. So, like, it was to a point where, like, you had to be so mentally tough for him playing for him. Yeah. If not, you had to go. I ain't a lot.

Versa climbing two times. I'm in the portal coach. After that second trip, bro. That's what it was. Think about it. After my freshman year, we didn't make the postseason. He had us do a basket track season. We didn't touch a basketball all spring.

Damn. All we would wake up, come down the hill, and we'd run. Was it like that when you went to college? Like, when you go first summer with him? No. It was bad. Like, you know, like I was overweight. We had to get your buddy right.

Yeah, I was in Fat Camp. What's Fat Camp? Like, legit, fat camp. Like, legit, fat camp. So I had the workout that morning, 6 a.m., come in, do a whole workout, then go class, come back for practice, then do a workout post-practice until I got a certain weight. I lost 30 pounds in my first month and a half of being there. How much was you when you went to school? Like two.

I'm not going to lie to. I was like 280. Damn. Two 70. And I lost weight. So like, I even remember coming in, I was like, yeah, I'm great. Gee, I'm probably 13% body fat. Like, I feel great.

All of a sudden, I get there. It's like, nah, you're 17% body fat, dog. You're about 255. I ended up getting the 225 by the end of that summer. Man, that's crazy. Yeah. Ain't bad, boy. What I was saying?

So that's a hell of a life to live, boy. Yeah, it's not fun. Y'all be making college basketball sound traumatic as shit. They did. Listen, this is all stuff that I can talk about now because it's over with. But like, even like, we got to a point, we had 5 a.m.s. And we had one dude breakout in the hives during the workout. And then we had to cancel it.

So he got rid of 5 a.m. And that was Quay Parker. So he passed out. We had to wake him up to continue his workout. Like, it was crazy. Damn. Then lockdown happens because 5 a.m.'s going away. Lockdown was every Saturday, if you had late to class or whatever else it was, you're in trouble.

6 a.m. to 10 p.m. you had to be in the gym. No devices. Damn. So you was there working out. You had five workouts. You really was just there reading. Did you say the time rate? Yeah. You say 6.8.m. 10 p.m. Hmm. Come out.

On a Saturday. Portal. He can't do that no more. That is illegal. Somebody snitch. Somebody snitch. I got one away and we backed 5 a.m. It was some wild times, but I always tell these guys that

You got different, huh? Some of my point this. He got him working for. He got him. He got to get working for him, bro. No devices. No phone, no iPad, no laptop. I hate it here.

But I see, how much working out can the motherfucker do, bro? Why did it all? It's a brawl like his hell when he was playing. Yeah, yeah. That was, though. Admiral Schofield. Like, Admiral Scofield,

like, that was real bookewarm. That was real bookeying. Fucking my Saturday up like that. Yeah, ain't no such thing that's going out that night. Oh,

no. Yeah. We was. You were still after doing that? Oh, yeah. It was. I probably had an energy after that. Fourth time doing that,

I'd probably be ready for that. I've been in a job all day. I'm ready. We had so many times where guys we'd be in the lockout together, locked down together. So we'd be like, eight dudes in lockdown.

Just bobbing. for locked up all that they I'll probably be ready to hang something that's believe that we're going to make out

yeah fucking niggins thank you Joe Friday obviously man had a great career in Tennessee

now it's time for the draft what was that process like for you man making that decision the family just that summer

yeah so went to the draft said I was declaring called Coast Barnes from Chicago after the combine I was like yeah I'm not coming back

um had like a decent conversation and came down to the workouts. My whole thing about the workouts was I want to chase the guys who were projected above me. So I was like, you know what? Like Brandon Clark, like PJ Washington, like all these guys, these names, they're considered like, people were like, this guy's old. This guy's. Meanwhile, I'm the same age as all these guys because I was young. Like I remember Rick Carlisle during when I'm meeting with Dallas.

They were like, how's I feel being one of the older players in the class? I said, actually I'm like younger than every junior and sophomore and probably close to young the most freshman. He cursed everybody out. You know, Carlisle is. He went crazy. But even the draft process, I was doing the workout, chasing those guys around. I'm thinking like, yo, I'm killing. So I'm a, I'm definitely go top 15, top 20. Meanwhile, I just realized I brought everybody's value down with me. Like, everybody came down to my area. Like, Brandon Clark was supposed to be top 80 and me at 21 right in front of me. Damn. During that process, I was like, there's only one chance so I can go in the top like 20

and that would be Orlando at 16. And they were like, we have between you, Nikiel, who went next, and then a mystery guy. That mystery guy ended up to be in Trumotiki who just came off to ACL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was nice, at least in college. I'm all right, yep.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, okay, I'm not going to Brooklyn one of my worst workouts that I've had in my life. Then I was like, okay, San Antonio, but they won't draft me at 20. If they draft me, it'll be at 29. So then Luca went, Boston.

I knew they were trading 20. So I was like, I'm not going there. and then 21, it was between either OKC, Memphis, and like they had to trade. OKC I would have went, but then they traded the pick to Memphis. They took Brandon Clark. So I was like, all right, cool. So like, I'm not going to Boston because I'm, you know the Boston story about my workout, right? No, no, tell us, yeah.

Yeah, we're here. Thank you. Boston workout. So I'm over here, like, of course, smart kid. I'm in the workout, Eric Pascal, me, Brandon Clark. And we're over here. Jay Laranega is the coach. Jay.

Yeah, Tony Dobbins was a video coordinator at the time. Oh, okay. So Tony's leading the workout. We get to this four and four, five and five session. Tony's like at the clipboard, he's like, yeah, like thinking about the play to draw up. And he drew up to play, and he had Brandon Clark in the corner of me on a dunker. I was like, yo, like I kind of touched the clipboard. I was like, you sure you want me in the dunker?

Like, you rather have the guy with the lob thread of dunker and me in the corner because I can shoot it. He was like, you're right, you're right. So I like took the clipboard, erased it. And then drew up. Oh, he wild. So then boom, that happens. Play work. I'm feeling good.

You know, I'm confident. Next thing happens where, like, play happens. They're like, all right, cool. Like, they're switching everything now. Like, like, we need to play. Tony's kind of holding the clipboard. He's thinking about the play. I'm like, I got it.

Grab the clipboard from him. He's wild. Grab the clipboard from him. Like, draw up a play. Thing is going to be like, this is what we've got to do. It ain't work. So then after that, I'm like, all right, cool. I'll spring my ankle during the workout.

workout happens three minute run at the end as Boston does Danny does and they're like you don't have to run you don't have to run I'm like that I'm running ended up running it got in first me and KZialk Paula got him first

and I think that's the only reason I got drafted there because Jay afterwards he always I always the joke that he cursed me out he didn't curse me out but he pulled me aside was like we don't do that here like you don't take the clipboard out of the coach's hand because I heard that years prior Kyrie had done at the Brad

so I was like oh yeah that makes a lot sense Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You can't be doing that. Especially Jay. Yeah. Jay's crazy. Jay, crazy.

This was back in the one I play with Tennessee because it was Barnes, because Barnes was very like, like he, I definitely did that a lot. I did a couple of times in Barnes and, like, it was like, calm me. Like, if you got an idea, like, do it. So then I did it and, yes, it didn't work. A magic on a job interview. Hey, let me make your job interview. Let me hold that.

Let me hold that. So then next to you know, I'm like, all, I'm not going to Boston. I get a text saying, congratulations, congratulations. I'm like, what they congratulating me for? So I text my age. I'm like, yo, what's going on? I just got three congratulations texts. He's like, I don't know.

I'm like, all right. So I call him like, yo, what's going on? He's like, I don't know, let me call around. Actually, hold up one sec. He's like, don't take my word for it, but you might be going to Boston at 22, get your phone out just in case. So I take my phone out. I'm at my boy's house, my best friend's house,

because I didn't get a draft invite to the green room. And I was like, all right, cool. Sit there, Boston gets drafted. Everybody goes crazy around me. I think it was, Danny was the first one to call me, and then Brad. And then so I was like going to Boston, which was, I thought I was going to Utah next pick. And that was my thought. It was like I thought I was going to Utah at 23.

And they trade the pick. Oh, thank God. Yeah. That was no, that was when Utah was nice stuff. That was when they had Donovan Mitchell. They had Rudy. You went to the right team. Yeah, I went to the right team.

You were solid your rookie year in Boston. And I had a lot of opportunity to play because, like, that year in Boston, it was me, Shemmy as the really force. And then Gordon Hayward. Yeah. He was hurt. Yeah. So I played a lot.

Even in the playoffs, Gordon came back. Like, I was still in the rotation, played a lot of backup five because Tice was our daughter. We had Ennis Freedom. Did we have NS a year? I think we had Ennis Freedom that year. Yeah. And then, but played a lot of backup five and then kind of made a name through that whole process that rookie year.

Man, you're getting. draft at your homie crib as far. Like, you were just over there kicking it. Just over there kicking it. That you ain't having a party. No, it was just literally. It was like 12. It was like me, my family.

Okay. Him, like a couple of my boys. But like, we're all just kicking it because it was like, I'd rather do it. Like, I didn't want to do nothing crazy because I'd be hate to be the guy that's sitting there like, damn. Was you nervous you might drop the second round? I wasn't nervous.

I'd go second round, but I definitely didn't think I was in the top like 15, 20 picks. So I was like, I did it. Buck around and be 30. Yeah. Yeah, the same experience. Yeah, I remember I was supposed to get picked at 17. And when I ain't get picked, I ain't know where I was over. Yeah, I was like, oh, it's over.

I'm about to go second round. That's how I think. Because I was like 22, I was like, I'm not going to Boston. So I started looking at names. I was like, Utah 23. Best chance I got. Not Utah. San Antonio 29?

When you start doing that, you cook? You start thinking you cook. Yeah, I was like, I'm cooked. Like, even in my reaction, like, you see me, I'm not crying. I'm not, I'm just like, damn, I'm going to Boston. I got to Boston, I was like, so like, why did y'all draft me? Because I took the clipboard out of coach's hand and the workout. But they brushed it off and they're like, just don't do that shit again.

I already know Jay, shout to Jay. That's my guy. Jay is crazy. What vet gravitated towards you when you got to Boston? Like, who shows you the roads? K-Walk. K-Walk's my vet. Yeah.

Even, like, I'm going to say, because, like, technically the guys I knew most of the guys in the I was JT was best friends with Harry. Yeah. So like we were mutuals already through through HG. Then I was like, all right, cool. Then it was KWalk, Brad Wanamaker and. Oh, G, Brad. Gordon at the time.

Gordon's the type of vet though that like do as I do. Like I'm not gonna pull you along. So if you wanna show up at 6 a.m. to work out with me. Cool, but like I'm not about to ask you to show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. KWalk was the type to be like anything you got like I'm here for you. Like damn COVID happened that year. I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do because I'm my,

I can't pay for the lease. I can't get paid no more. And then at the same time, like, I can't go home to my grandparents or my mom. Like, they're 90, 60-something years old. Haywalt was like, come live with me. So, like, I lived with Kaywalk the entire COVID until we went to the bubble.

So, like, and then Smart, of course, was a vet too. But, like, all those guys were my vets. Kimba. Kimba was a great deal. Yeah. That was a great thing. To embrace you and bring it to his home, that's love.

The thing about growing up in Charlotte. That was a man. Watching Kimba. Yeah. I remember, I told him a story. I said you came to practice at Providence Day when I was in ninth grade. I remember asking for your autograph. He's like, damn, I don't remember that, but I remember practicing the PD.

I was like, yeah, in the small gym, like I walked up to you. Like, it was like a fan moment for me too. And then also like to have him as a vet still to this day. That's my daughter. Now he's my coach. Yeah, that's Coach Kevin will a coach. What the fuck was you going to do if Kimmer didn't say pull up? I was about to slum it.

I'm going to go back somewhere. Linger it out of pot. We found out how to figure it out. They're about to be pursued or happiness as a league. To me, how to go move with your guy? It's insane. That is kind of crazy. I'm going to ask what you did with that first shake, but I forgot that.

That COVID shit was wicked. COVID was wicked, man. Like, Leo's over here thinking about the bubble. Yeah. Damn. Bubble was insane, too. Yeah, what was that thing? Yeah, I was about to ask you that.

That was the bubble, man. So, so many stories. Don't say too much, Judge. I can't say too much. I can't say too much. It's just the wrong podcast. Yeah, I can't say too much. Yeah, go to the pivot.

It was like, the bubble was crazy just because, like, you got to think, you play a game after a game. You can't shower. You walk in there, like, you walk out the locker and you see that you just played. Yeah. Like, and mind you, there was so much going on in the bubble. And mind you, there was nobody but dudes. Like, it was to a point where, like, they had this one pool where you had the shrimps. Like, you go get to your room.

That was the best, best food you can get on the bubble because you could order in from the start. You can't get no takeout. Like, I remember the one time dude went to the edge of the bubble got suspended for three games. Yeah. So you couldn't order until like, I think it was like 50 days in.

And they showed the meals I had, boy, the meals would. They delivered me to your room. No, LeBron. LeBron, he's good. Well, Brown had his own room in the top penthouse wine.

For real? No, for real. Yeah, house. He had a house on the campus. Yeah, speak for yourself, Gene. Stop playing. Man, yeah, he had, he was like that.

Yeah. I knew about it. I knew about that. I knew about that. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we're in there with all grown-assment and superstar. Don't come across the room.

Yeah. Different bubble experience. I'm surprised you didn't know that. I didn't know that. Ron legit, like, he had his own, like, he had their own setup. Like, that thing was taken care of. They were on there anything. Somebody leaks some shit.

I said, oh, that nigga Brian special. I'm a little Brian for that. So, yeah. So then next to you know, we have, that bubble experience was insane. And even just with people like, I can't put the dog out. Like, not my dog. I can't put a guy out like that. Nah.

Like, there are some people that hang out in the pool, waiting for, it's come down. Like, you know, different energy. Yeah. You could probably assume who was in the bubble at the time. Okay.

So it was a different, different time. The real out take. That's a rough experience. Yeah. I was at Hooping Doe out in that shit, though. Imagine you playing like, you know, Battle for Atlantis.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. The exact feeling is that with no fans. Okay. So, like, hooping in a ballroom. You're in an auditorium ballroom, court.

They put those TV screens around you. That's when it got wicked, where you're like, it was jokes because you look up. My pops, my pops had a, like, cigarette damn near in his robe. On the Zoom call. On the Zoom call, I'm only like, pop. Like, he takes a nap there and said, pop, you can't be doing this, man. I'm like, I'm going to go out there and chilling. I got this square, man.

You're like, d'nig, with the road. You hip-in-law, like, chill it. I say, yeah, this is a different experience. Like, they're pumping them crowd noise with the home arena. Yeah. Like, it wasn't real. Like, I always say the bubble was such an experience that you have people playing out of their minds. It never played that way before.

Yeah, the rest of the career. Jesus Warren's crazy. Oh, my soul, TJ Warren Bubble was one of the coaches when they ever played basketball. Bro, he was damn near. Yeah. They played that. It was good. Because guys ain't have to deal with nothing else besides ball.

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Paul Murray. Crazy. Mom Murray. Go. It had to be better than playing in the next year, though. Like, when I can't get it. So that was terrible. So you're playing in them big old aren't in there with nobody in there?

Yeah. Yeah. It was dead. It was so funny. What was that? You remember that game when somebody was talking crazy about a ref and scream that shit? in the game. And you can hear everything.

And you heard everything. The ref stopped by the bench. You can't talk to me that way. You can hear everything, bro. Our first game, we walked in the stadium. We about to play Milwaukee. I'm like,

oh, this shit ain't going to work, gang. Like, I can't even get hype. You know, the vibes just. It was a game winner. And everybody's going to go. Did nobody get a fuck? A good shot, boy.

Hey, we go in a lot. Hey, this is a hell of a shot, too, man. Like, yeah. Well, fuck. Like, oh, okay, where we going tonight? So, like, the bubble was definitely better than that second year. I can imagine. Like, and it's tough because even for me, like, because painting those guys are rookies.

So they never experienced fans. Yeah. Versus me, I experienced fans for the first half of the season, then dealt with the bubble. They got wiki. And then dealt with the next year. So it was, like, completely different. Like, I'm over here, like, bubble times was, I feel like it was a grind. But then the next year, it felt like, literally the entire season was just, like,

tossed it to the grain. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want to be there. That shit was over with. Didn't nobody want to be there, though. Bro, we had COVID. We had, what was that game?

We had Joe Johnson, Justin Jackson. Oh, I had left then. No, no, no, it was before you left. Nah, I was gone. When Joe got there. Joe wasn't there. No, did it in 10 day. I left.

But I remember we had to sit one time. We had to do the COVID test and they, like, malfunction. And we had to be there for, like, sit out there for, like, 50 minutes and wait. Like, they'd start bringing you food. We just sit there and waste the cover. Is that before you got on that shit? The thing you had the past ago? I don't tell nobody.

Like, I was clear. I was going to talk about it. That's right, boy. I was a real Levard. The bar is crazy. Hey, God, it's getting through there, bro. I know this is high track B. If we're going to talk about later.

Yeah. The Lord is the greatest power for the ball time. I don't care what nobody says. I told you. He's solidified. He said, he said, I had the votes coked out summers in the world. He said, I had some fun of them summer. I said, he told him.

You know, what's he making do? Y'all talking to an addict. That's not funny. He's not a real addict. That's not funny. That's not funny, but the way he was, it was for the way for the baby. Bar is a wild boy. He said, man, I had some.

My favorite boy ever, man. To say I had some fun times of the summer coked out, they're like, you can't say that, Loumore. On God, LaBarre lie. You definitely hit that powder doing the scene. That's too long to be playing. Greg, don't speak on it.

I was just saying that. He definitely did. He definitely did. He didn't. So respect. All of them guys back in the day, I feel like, was. No, not in the 2000. No, he ain't even that old, though.

Yeah, he missed the list. You remember John Starks on the... Yeah. That's G. No. Let's forget it. Y'all, you don't remember it either. That was a wild interview.

That's a wild interview. Yeah, boy, blacked out. I ain't never seen nobody tweet out like that. I've seen people lay down, like, chill. No, no. Have you seen that? What is this? That is not their bike.

Like, you'll see it at the beginning. Look at the bottom left. Oh. That was powder? What you think it was, man? No, bro. He just tweaked. That was the momentum, bro. That was the momentum, bro.

That was the momentum, bro. A dude shooting the half-course shot. That's the momentum from. That's the drill. You ain't hit the ground. There wasn't no contests. No, power. I don't want to say that you on the show.

You're about to make me speak about powder. I'm just saying it don't make you act like this. That was something. My thing about malfunction. They just tweet, bro. John Stark's a little more older. It's crazy. Honestly, that's the first emo.

He really the OG. No, you can't. He just tweet. He just tweet. Oh, man, my boy tweaked out. He just made down. He just tweaked. How do you even remember that, dude?

Listen, that's the first thing that came to mind when I hear that show. I think back to those 90s, because that's back when there was no real testing. Yeah. It's really the 80s, though. Yeah. Because Dr. James was talking about rich. He said, boys would smoke squares a half time. Yeah.

Yeah. beer in the gear in the Gatorade container containers. They said Larry used to have a beer. Like, that's why, this is my dog. Like, L.D. when he had a beer after the game, I was, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all have to, y'all take the beer away from L.D.,

but they was drinking beer during the middle of the game. And he's the next Larry. My boy, T. It's not like. Let him rock out. That's real shit. I agree. Yeah, Michael Philly took that beer.

He looked at him. Like, hey, man. Yeah, ain't going to lie. Me and E. E.T. E.T. Yeah, shout my dog, E.T. Yeah, we love E.T.

Shout to bro. That's one of our own for sure. Those one-on-one sessions. I used to watch. The real one-on-one. Okay. So you're neutral. I'm neutral.

How did those one-on-one sessions go? I'll give credit where credit is due. Jet did win a couple games. Come on, though. Like, he won a couple games. Show my nigga some love. But also at the same time, like, it was always J-T, E-T, JET. E-T. I ain't never really seen that win.

I'll get true. Speak to truth. I'll leave the stroke. You know he's about to text you. He's about the text for sure. But I was retired E.T. He was 25 pounds. He was, you know, before he got back into shape.

That's the fuck. So E.T. was just there. You know, he always, I compete, man. I compete. Yeah. No threes. But you know what I mean? Yeah, we're a fight.

That's a fight. So then E.T. Never really won. Jet, I'd say, would win, like, seven for the games, I'd say. Like, he had of his days where, you know, he won a couple. Okay. T dominated the rest for sure for sure and then like the occasional times when me and Peyton joined me one I played one-on-one all day though yeah yeah yeah he'll be like

the type to like they do three spots right they'd be like let's do seven yeah it's like yeah it's like yeah it's like yeah I remember there was one day at me JT J-B you and Payton all played now I remember because they think it's assholes for real just like I used to like I used to never do the shit in there like it's it I'll do it in one-on-one. I never did in the games. Every time I made a tough move, I remember I messed up J-B one time. Jet was like, it was like, damn, G,

do that shit in the game? So. But like, so, but it was some good times. It was hella fun. That team was one of the, I told you, that's the funny thing. One of the funniest teams, bro. Tristan and Brad was the most comedy.

I tell those stories, teammates to this day. Double T, bro. TN-13, baby. Oh, and this is how we do it in Cleveland. We were like, oh, shit. Yeah, let Brian breathe, bro. This is how we did it in Cleveland. They're like, oh, shit.

This motherfucker can't coach, man. You don't know what you're going to cook, man. Y'all had a hell of rock. Man, what? Every one time we got on the plane, the food was weak. Hey. Oh, my God. We all on there.

We're chilling. Everybody just chilling. He's like, this what y'all eating? Like, yeah, they would never do this in Cleveland. Never been to Cleveland. Brom were doing crazy. Crazy. We're like, all right, right.

Kimba, look at me. He has to come on this. We have to come on this. I love it. I love it. Just how they treat y'all in your own win here? Oh, God, bro. This is what happened?

Well, see, we're still in the playoffs. Yeah, I swear to God. Was team a good vet, though. Yeah, he was the coolest team that I ever had. That's what I like that year. Take care of your rooks. Like, he never did, made you do nothing crazy. By then, like, I was a second year, so I ain't have to do crazy stuff no more.

But, like, Peyton, Aaron, them, Aeron, man. Oh, man. Crash out. My dude killing that. Yeah, he hooping. I used to beat his ass every day in one home. And he's been. Oh, my guy used to bust his ass.

Joe. Shout to Joe. Joe used to be like, playing. Come on. He's got to get better. He's got to get better. You got to go. You gotta be a little gar.

Come on. Come on. I used to be fucking a little. Damn. Now my boy, Patron's laid out here. Pace for real. Shout, man. But you talked about earlier on, Payton Pritch of his development.

What he looked like, did you see earlier on too? Then he was going to be like that. Yeah. When they got them on that contract, I was like, oh, this is. And they robbed in the league. Oh, bogus, right? I think they're going to take care of him. They're going to make it right.

Oh, he's a fan favorite. But that dude, like, when I tell you, he was cooking like that from the moment he came in. Damn. And then, like, he was. He also, like, he waited his time, but at the same time, he was always killing. Like, you could tell he worked his act. Like, he's the type of person you have to tell to get out the gym.

Sort of God. Like, he was one where he'd be in the morning, they'd be like, hey, we got a true lockout day. And everybody was can come in but pay him. Damn. And he's the type of person that, like, they keep him out of the gym, he's going to find another gym next door. No, he's a basketball junkie, man.

Yonke. I used to be like, I remember, I was like, Brad, play pay me. It's cool. like, because Brad was like, you know, he's ready. Yeah, that's right. That's what I'm fucking killer. I remember that conversation. Both with the Brad.

Hey, play that. Play them, man. I'm tired of y'all. I acting like he all want to play, a play, man. He was cooking and practiced, though. You got to think, Pay and been through it all. Like, he was in that position with Jet.

He started playing again. E-May came, he was hooping for real. Yeah. Then after that, the next season, it was Malcolm Bragg, didn't, Jeff, like, Derek White, Marcus Small. Yeah. Yeah.

And then following Yuri, that's when they started going off. I love this today, bro. We just had a crazy segment about him and Cape Park on the show. I spads. Yeah, they got paying fucked up. They got paying. Yeah, they got paid in. Yeah.

Paying. Paying nice. Yeah, love to the women. Love, love. Kailen, cool. Kailin nice. Payton different. Yeah, paying different.

Paying different. Paying. The thing about this, Paying is so nice that in a team with JT and Jeeb they give from the ball sometimes at the end of the game, and let him rock. They're nice, bro. I ain't never fit. I always say, six minute of the year.

A motherfucker good. He driveled a fuck out that ball. Oh. He got handles like a motherfucker. He said he. He did this in the air the other day. Yeah. He won't.

He put things in a blender. We got to play them soon and I'm pissed. Go ahead. He's supposed to play. He'd be talking crazy too. He talked. He talked. Like, he truly like,

like he could go any pickup session. Yeah, I got a meet, bro. Oh, yeah. He's definitely got play. I got to meet my boy, P. for show. Who's speaking? Meeting the Pee Pee is

Brother Black. Calling Pee-P? Meeting the Pee-P, though. It's great. Ah, that is great because I ain't there. But see, I don't call my shit that. That's probably why I went over my head.

It's the wood or nothing. But as to G. Gee. Gee. That's what I'm out of it. That's a wild. Yeah. Tough is guard, though, in the league,

man. Yeah. That's what I was. You're under size big, but you hold your shit day. And he's guard one through five of them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, it's always, it's really niggas like jet. Like short niggas that can shoot that can go, like fast.

Like Payton, like, there's Garland, Steph Curry's, like, C.J. McCollums. Like, those guys are the hardest one to be guard. Because I'd rather guard, this going to get me fucked up in the future. I'd rather guard KD and those type of guys because it's more, like, more fun than guard a nigga that's just going to pit pat, like, pass it off, cut back door. sprints get the ball. Yeah. It's too much. Like, relax.

I knew you was different. When you was going to Joel and B. Yeah. I never forget that, bro. I was watching that game. You fucking what? Nah, he was actually doing a good job. But Joel and B, seven foot.

Yeah. They're 300 pounds. Granted, he's six. Seven. For sure. Did you sign up for that or they put you in that? So, like, I always able to, like, guard bigger guys. Like, even, like, college or everything else going to the league.

They saw it when we play Bam. We're just going to try them. Like, try them. Like, put them on Yokish, put him on Beade. Damn. Yeah, he does. And then, like, I was guarding. So, like, I actually do better, I think, on, I always say I guard best three through five.

One is and twos, like, Donovan Mitchells, those guys of the world. It's a long day. Struggle. Like, struggling before. A long day. They might not score four, three out of five, but, like, or sorry, four out of five, but maybe three out of five. Other guys, I'd say two, maybe one out of five. Yeah.

Like, even, like, regarding. at Sengoon recently, like guys like that, like I feel confident in my matchup versus, like, other matchups, I'm like, ah, he might got the better of me. I'm truthful about it. No, for sure, bro. Like in B, even, for example, like,

guarding him in playoff series, guarding Janus, like, Brooke Lopez, like, those guys in the world, like, those are ones I feel like I have the most fun guarding because they don't flop. They play downhill, and, like, they fight. Like, I like fighting, so,

for sure. That's good. I see that bruise on my side of your head So I say, I'm worried I'm a little bit Everyone rule of fight club Yeah

What was the life playing in the finals Against, you know what I'm saying? That type of word saying y'all was battling You didn't go from fight club That asked about the pisses Pissus Don't worry, we get there Yeah

We were playing in the finals It's cool because Like, it's a different experience Yeah Like they always talk about like the CP quote like I want to feel this like experience again like type shit like it was legit like you that first game you step on the court I remember my heart was beating out my chest and you start playing and it's some the best environments whether it's like fans the media you have

before the game like it's top to bottom cross from first man to 15th man I feel like you got to stay locked no that's a it's a different experience and like to experience it in that 22nd2 series He's like, I remember we playing those games. We, man, we thought we wanted. Like, we were up to 2-1, or, yeah, 2-1. And I was like, yo, like, we're going back home. Like, we got to get this next win. Game 4 happens.

Like, I always say Steph went off. Steph is insane. Jordan Poole was one of the biggest reason why they won that series. But Steph, that game four was ridiculous. Like, I remember I was guarding it, but then when I got subbed out, I remember watching it. I was like, yeah, this is a different level of And he was hype too.

He was on a bitch. Yeah, he was showing a lot of emotion and shit. He was, he was, wow. I ain't never, like, because Clay was cool that whole series. Like, he was good. But, like, it was really JP and Steph that was, that was carrying them throughout that entire run. For sure, JP was on.

And then Otto Porter and Andrew Wiggins, bro, they had some big-ass game. Auto Porter, out of his body. It makes me off to this day, because that final year he got traded to the Raptor was out of the league. Yeah. Like, still makes me mad.

Like, he was bustin, bro. He always got, He's got some random dudes that beat us back when I was in Boston. Yeah, that was Georgetown Auto Porter there. Yeah, he was healthy all the puttner. He never been healthy his entire career. And then, yeah, final's running one of freaking played every game, 20 minutes, it would be good.

He was killing. You still, man. You was that close to being like me, bro. He was that close to being a champ, bro. It's all good. Hey, but he did get your bucks up out of here before that thought, boy. That's true. I was already gone, bro.

It didn't matter to work. part about it is that championship year. I remember you play, what, three minutes? You know, one? It was real factor. Oh, that's a real bad for me. Damn, Jeff. I want to ask you.

I know what I wore my coat today. I want to ask you ever match up with Draymond? Yeah, for sure. What was that, man? Fowley Tilt. We did another game against the Pelicans? You don't know on Zion's back. Yeah.

Try it a rebound. All right. Like, that was the, even game won the series, me and I got into it that series. And I always say I got the most respect for Draymond in the world because I've made it to this day and I'll never change in this stance.

I was my favorite player growing up because 6-7, 6-7, 26 outboard that, you know, pass it, involved, you know, everything that stuff. So, like, I'll give him the credit where it's due. But every time we play against some... And smoke. Smoke. Yeah, that's great.

Competitive. Like, I think that he's a type of person that, like, talk, as you all know, talks all the shit in the world. That's a fun. He got the team to back it up. and does a phenomenal job of, you know, making an impact on winning where you can. So, like, when I was in Boston, especially,

back and forth, back and forth, every single time, I think when I was the first, within my first five years, there was always an altercation. Damn. There was some level of altercation where it was like, when I got traded to Charlotte and tried to kick me in my nuts. When it was, you know, when I was in Dallas,

like when I had in Boston, like, wrestle to the ground, double text. Like, it was always something. This year, I think this year was the first year, that I play. I remember y'all wrestle I just never knew

that child was to like guard each other I never know normally put me on somebody else because like with Dre you try and put your five on them you try and put like when we were in Boston we put JT on them

because we were like we can just switch it like you put me on who was on that team at the time Otto Porter I don't know I won't take credit for that it was like they put me on

Wood on Louie yeah I was switch with Luni and they would just never coming to ball screens. You talk about having to see it back it up. We'll go ahead and jump to recently.

Detroit Charlotte had a hell for time, man. What the vibe's like, man? I always say, just watch the reactions, man. I saw it from the start. Like, even before this place started happening, like, Duren and Moose were drawn or talking, like talking. And once the mush happened,

I was like, oh, like, it started getting crazy. I stood up out. He packs in my hands. Oh, I stayed over there. Like, all right, let's see if they get it taken care of because I'm not about, I got to find my second year in the league or third year in the league against the bulls.

I got to spend it one game. Man, I lost $30,000 or $50,000. I ain't never doing this again. No, for sure. So then this happens, right? So I'm over here like, all right, they got situated. When I saw a mile swing on Duren, I was like, all right, you see me. And tell me to start walking.

We start walking. And Stuart ran, that's when we really start walking. And my coach pulled me back because he was like, Grant, we need you to play. And you see me trying to be on the court twice. And I'm like, yo, I want to be involved. It's fun. Now, sit your ass down. Don't lose no chicken, bro.

That's what it was. You can't lose that money. My nigga, Mousin' duck that bitch. They was in the ring. Every, each sequence was fun because you saw the first one. I give a lot of credit during because he really could knock my dog out, like Musa. He was like, this situation happened, tries to swing on him, holds back. They hold him back.

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Yeah. He was going to lock the hook. The motherfucker foo. And he watched the tape. You can tell he can fight too because he had to turn. He checked on. held it back. So I was like, all right, he checks the hook.

Then keeps backing up. So I was all right, cool. They get moose situated. Miles, I think, was just riled up. He was talking. He's trying to support his teammate, goes, keeps pursuing him trying to swing. Swings on during, they swing back and forth.

They miss, miss, miss. So nothing happened. I said, Stewart came from the other side of the bench. He could have scooped him, though. I see Bob. Hey, since in his day, I think he would have scooped him. He had to fucking dunking around. I don't know if either one of them

know what to do when they get to the ground. Like, you got to think, because throwing hands is different. Like, he slipped it, scoops, goes for a double leg, tries to slam them. I forgot to him. Yeah, yeah. You know, I meant to all that. Yeah, yeah.

You know, I meant to all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love watching. And he just broke down the stances of an NBA part. He is that thing. I don't know. I forgot that shit, well, what the fuck we're doing here? What was the fuck we're doing here?

Who was a script? What are you doing? What happened? Why are you doing? He's pulling up my stats to the final. What are he doing? Oh, that's crazy transition. Hey, at least you got points.

Yo, you know, too much at zero. Oh. 2.0, 0.8 of 6? Yeah, yeah. Something. No, I'm God. Yeah. Fuck you out.

I'm God. Then I think Miles would have slammed them. I don't know what. After that, there ain't no chance of breaking that up. Nah. That's too. Too relieved. Because Jared drew on my neighbor.

But I say, man, I'll duck. I said, oh, my boy, been in this before. I took him back to the hood. He's telling him doing boxing lessons over the past. Yeah, for sure, sure. Yeah. They got wicked for sure. All right, man, what was like, man, moving from Boston to Dallas?

What was that transition? Like, yeah. I was going to say, because, like, signing trade, baby. Signing trades is always a misconception. People think signing trades is like, oh, this guy got moved. Yeah. Versus signing trades, basically the player decided to go somewhere else and stuff like that. So when I left the team, I was like, you know, at the time, me and Joe,

We're on the best of terms. Now it's my dog locked in for life. But at the time, we were on best terms, I was like, I'm gone either way. So then I signed in Dallas. I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm giving me, Luke is represented by my agency. Get there and Mark, and those guys are like, hey, we're excited to have you.

We need you to be like a leader on this team, hold people accountable, all this other stuff. I'm like, cool. So then that season happens, you know, how it went. Yes. And, like, it was a great time. Like, I look back to those times. I learned so much about that team, like Kyrie, like all the misconceptions that I had across him at the league.

I was like, yo, this is one of the best teammates I've ever had. Yeah. Like, and then you got like LD, one of the best players. I remember those conversations with E.T. That's why I brought up. Yeah. JT's my dog. JT is my dog.

JT is my dog. They do that. They don't do that. And while you do that. They impacts winning more. Okay. You know how you determine which one is a better player. That's on.

to decide. The talent that I saw playing with Luca is absurd. He's nice. What did you say about J2? I missed that one. The way he impacts winning is unprecedented. He impacts the game out every facet. He can defend.

He can, like, he's a playmaker. He can score. He's a 610 wing that can do it all. That's the best way to describe it. L.D. 6-7 European bucket that also controls the game.

Like he, like, he pace. Like, he knows how he puts people in position. Yeah. Like, I've never had that many open shots since playing with Luca Dantre in my life. It's difficult at times. At the same time, like, it's, like, you watch him and you're amazed. Yeah. Like, I always say, JT, I think, had to benefit of the doubt that, like, in moments, like,

that he was amazing in moments, but also we had a really, really freaking good team. So, like, you didn't have to be amazing at all times. Like, with L.D., I felt like every single game, I'd be like, there's something new that I'm like, holy crap. And maybe that's just how they both play. You know, JT is a little bit more passive.

Also, like, a little bit more, like, trusting of his teammates. LD's a little more ball dominant, you know, getting to his own. So. What's that first practice

that training camp? Like, when you got to see Kyrie and Luke hooping at the same thing? He didn't like. Oh, no. So I was,

who the fuck with you going? I'll say that. I always bring it back to that family story. Because when Finley came out was like Grant got 26 on his head. I'm like, that is cap. Oh, yeah.

That is cap. I definitely got scored on. About 12. Definitely about 12. 12 switches. So like, but LD, like, I was in charge of making sure you showed up every day. So, like, I was like always agitating them, like, pissing them off some way. Like, makes, and now it's we practice, like, we practice every day.

It's different than if, like, we skirmished. Like, that was always embarrassing. That's far. So it was smooth. Like, I was rocked with it. And so it was competitive, like Kai and absurd. But I would, you know, pick and choose. Like some days when, you know, guys get into it,

that's when Kyle would turn it up. But other days, he'd be like, all right, yeah, LD needs this for his condition, and whatever he needs to do, and let him rock out. So it was fun, but also that team, like, you could tell that team was a finals team, even without, like, the talent,

like, we needed one more big at the time, like, Rishon Holmes, I think at the time when I was there. Yeah. Like, we needed, like, Gafford changed that team. Yeah. Hell of a trade. Underweight trade.

For sure, bro. And even my trade with PJ. Like, it was a good trade in my name, like, in terms of like similar players, but at the same time, like, I think PJ provides a little bit more. I like passing more than he does. Like, I feel like he's a little bit more score-motivated. So, like, even that group, like, they were prepared to go to the finals, and that's why they did.

I just think that made it tough at the end. So you were one person who probably thought last year, like, everybody else, like, how the hell did that trade Luca? Or that was probably shocking the tail of you? Oh, no, I was in bed. And I was like, I saw the tweet. I was like, ain't no way. And I'm like, at the same time I know, because. like Nico loves loves AD.

You know, he's a Kobe guy. And AD was Kobe's guy. He was talking about Yon. I thought I was really trying to set up. Yonis going to Dallas. Oh, that's what they really wanted. They wanted Yonis and AD in Dallas. I think that was the envision and the plan.

Oh, shit. Yonis and AD? Wow. That would have fed families. Yes. Generations. Would have. Because that's all he talked about.

He talked about those two guys. Those were the guys. So I think, like they said, remember the first call they made to. It was the Timberwolves. I think it was Milwaukee, then it was Timberwolves. Yeah. Yeah. Lux, then Timberwolves.

Yeah. So, Lux, going after Yonnas. Timberwol was going after Ann. Yeah. So. They don't know that was a year earlier. That only know. Has it been this year, boy?

Oh, Janus would have been a. Yeah. And Dallas members. It'd been out of there. Yeah. It'd been in deep Ellen for show. Yeah. So, but that was a, it was smooth.

Like, seeing it up. But then when the trade happened, I was like, well, Nico's just fed up. They were done with it. They were done with like the like organization control. They were done with all that stuff. So they were like, we're going to move off of them. And in my opinion, I think that was messed up because blindsided, your best player.

Superstar. Superstar, probably top three, top two player in the NBA. Yeah. So it was like, it was very shocking from a player perspective because I'm like, you could have easily like gone to them and be like, yo. Because they also thought they did right by them. because, like, if you know LD enough, like you know it's probably three places he'd go if it wasn't Dallas. Yeah.

And that's probably one of the three. But it is. I mean, he did get traded to the Lakers. She did. Like, yeah. Still, like, you, like, if you knew you were champion to the Lakers, you could still go to him and be like, yo, like, yeah, not to you.

I know you're probably don't hate this. You're out of here. Yeah, God's about out. Oh, like us. Yeah, you are going to L.A. You're going to L.A., bro. Yeah. You will be like.

He's probably like, damn, what? Well, That's an extra 50 million probably about to make in the endorsement deals. For sure. You got 50 billion you're taking away. You're going to say.

Taxes. Yeah, but he don't make what up. Oh, yeah, you're right. And it ain't going to stay packed. Super Max. Yeah. He don't get that back, y'all. Trust me.

I need that now, bro. No, no, no. He's going to get it. You see LD in a ton of commercials? LD not really like. Right, chill. Did you know, motherfucker mowlinger had a tree?

Yeah, niggie. Yeah, nigga, you didn't know that, did you? The nigga told you about the tree, ain't it? Yeah. Oh, I did. In L.A. dog. Nakeda. That's a bomb in L.A. versus the L.A. versus the L.

That's the fucking bar right here. That has been in every episode. Yeah. That's a ball. I'm just saying, bro. Niggas did know to digger's. Diggas. So, L.D.

got, okay. We might know so. Okay. Yeah. L.D. got a French. Believe it. Trying to French. You need us.

Hey, y'all are problems. Hey, man, have you back from injury, man. Good to see you back on the court, man. How's the feeling being back, coming back from an injury? I know that's a grind, man, with stuff like that. It's great, but it's tough. Yeah.

I feel like coming back from any injury, you know, any type of, like, it's my first injury of my life, for real, that made me miss time. Okay. But, like, coming back from injury has shown me that you have to be patient. Yeah. You got to be understanding that you're not, like, you might be better in your mind, like, you're better than you were. but you got to like be understanding

that the shot's gonna come around. Like even the first two or three, three, four games, like I was playing good defensively helping the team win and stuff like that. But man, I was shooting like 12% like from the field,

12% from the three. I was like, I was killing in practice. Yeah, it ain't nothing like that game speed. It ain't nothing like it. Yeah. Now I think I'm getting more accustomed to it,

like turning it back around, but like even so it's like they say it takes a full year in ACO. So like I'm trying to be patient for myself but also understand that I can't be too patient because, trying to make that way off trying to make things happen

Hold yourself to a high standard But also like doing all things that matter Like before you know I always tell the stories like that finals run I used to manipulate my weight so badly Like I would go from 24 I remember that first round series I went from 243

Second round series we played a bucks I got up to 248 Third round series we played bam I knew up to play in the 5 I was 254 Damn I tried to get down to 243 again To play the Warriors

I can only get down to like 243 So, like, I used to try and do that. You need to tell him how to do that shit. No, I don't know. I know. I know the methods. I'll tell you how to lose weight. There we go. John Stark.

Lamar. Slan flu, dude. Slan flu, dude. I can't do that no more. No, you never did it. I can't manipulate it all the way. You know. Let me hang.

I'm going to have to be able to get a lot. I don't want you to get in no trouble there. Gene never hit the powder. Yeah, never. I can't manipulate my weight anymore the way I'd used to. So like now with the ACL injury, I'm like, I got to make sure I stay at the 2407, 248 rather than going up 255. You're a way 248. And, nigga, you was a whole for talking about you need to teach you about that.

I was like to be like your money. I'll call to me I'm gonna listen listen me and be here we're the real Charlotte Hornets man yeah man

I appreciate you bro for real yeah yeah yeah oh before you go you gotta tell us about these cards

oh yeah oh yeah off the court with game free game so whatever cards like you guys

you guys might be fans of stuff like that like ripping wax basically like gambling I'll give you a true okay like I brought a case to rip

if you want to it after we're done where it's like if you want. Oh yeah, shit. Yeah. Let's see. So we got a case of Panini Prism, the one below it, the brown case. That's the case of Panini Prism football this year. So like, Shadoor, all those.

Yeah, it's like a whole case with like 12 boxes in it. Okay. Damn. Big money on the way. Yeah. So cases that guarantee case hits. So like you normally have a better chance of making your money back compared if you buy an individual box.

So. Yeah. Yeah, if you got a key. So the way you really It's basically about prospecting Just like a GM Just like you would if you're owning the team And you basically hold cards

Some cars are more rare than others The cars are more rare Self and more Yeah So these It's about football Because it's the best way to talk about Okay

Big rips Right on brother Yeah box Yes sir Oh if I find some heat in here I get to keep it I'm giving you keep Oh man we got gifts

Let me get it. Now you're at Franklin in this joint. Listen, if you hit it, let you tell you the truth. If you hit a manga, you're coming off on five figures. Just let y'all know. Okay. So if you see a card that looks like an anime print, yeah, five figure card.

Say less. Now, listen, are you one of the people who be in there ruining all the kids' dreams of the Pokemon cards? If you have no, the people who pull up to the vint machine, Bucking Bell. I'm not the person that shows up by his quick boxes and walks out. He said, I'm going to win. Okay.

Like, I'm a person, like, I like buying that into the box. Oh, it would be multiple packs of the internet. packs. Oh, yeah. You're up all the packs. I'll tell you if you hit a good card. Oh, yeah. All right.

I'm gonna get one. Numbered cards is what you're looking for. Okay. You don't have a number. Everybody on the motherfucker packers. I got a Ray Lewis though. Is that fire? Yeah, so like the base card.

So like, base cards are like cool. They're like cool names, but you want guys up like the shinier cards. Hey, Willis McGahead. Look. A jerk. So yeah, that's a blue. That's a blue. So that's a number.

My nigga, TJ, who's my name is that. So I'll tell you the number. Number 10. Christian McCaffrey. I trade you. And also, that's nothing that you can trade cards. But, like, what I always do is, base cards don't really matter, right? So I always just, you can peek it.

You'll see that. It's the best card. Okay, who is that? Yeah, Shalor Taylor Taylor. R.J. Harvey basketball print to 180. Like, rookies sell higher than the vets do. Okay. Consistently.

So if you have a rookie card, that's a silver, then that will sell more than a rookie base. them or down like numbered cards and sell more. It kind of goes by like increments. You're looking for like the bigger name. So quarterbacks like you had a Jackson Darts silver, you might hit like a couple hundred dollar card in the gym. All right.

So this old, he earned his buyer. He ain't rolling. Yeah. Okay. So like order basically. Yeah. Inserts.

They're silver. Like people will collect them for sets, but they're not really like something that you like, you ever put to the side unless it's numbered. I'm getting legendary. I got the white freeney. I got Lawrence Taylor. Yeah.

Shocky. Yeah, you get some cool names, but because they're not their rookie, like if you go back and rip the products when they're rookies, nukes versus nowadays, unless it's an autograph or something like that. Cooper Design, Super Bowl champion. Hell yeah, we have too much more with this, man. You got to tap me in for sure, man. Yeah, we appreciate you that.

We go ahead. This is where you, you know, you might be able to get a sponsorship for the pot, you mean? Talk to them. Yeah, sir. Seeing some products to rip. I'm getting all my favorite players, but I ain't get. And sometimes the favorite players are the ones you collect.

So, like, okay. Yeah, I got Bobby Wagner and I got Nick Bosa, even though Nick, you know, Nick Bossa be wilding, but. And I like us. Yeah. I got a Michael, Michael Vic, although my case over there, because, like, that's the person. We got a Vjohn Robbins. Hey, my car is. Hey.

And I'm doing a game book going for the time. You're really, you're really searching for, like, Shador signs in this product. So if you get a Shadour. Huka, T, J.A. I got a Mark Andrew, shiny, though. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So that's purple Mark Andrews. Like all those cars that are colored, yeah, will have some.

What do you do with the core? I get a car. Mark Andrew. You know he dropped that pass. They still my mom. Yeah. The kids collect cars just for the joy, right? Yeah.

Like the base cars that have no money, no incentive. Yeah. You bring it to a car shop and be like, hey, give these out to like 10-year-olds that one. I usually give everything under the bridge. We got a bridge over there. Oh, yeah. That bridge is wicked, man. Yeah, he gave out LRG outfits.

All right. And on that, no. We appreciate you, though, bro. Gene, appreciate you. That's what I'm at this card. Zaire. I'm not going to drink. I got the Zoom break, nigga.

Yeah. Shout out to the gig for show. Shout out to Boost Mobile family. We tapped in. Hard rock bet. Leave the players alone, man. When you make the parlays and the crash outs, man, don't go bother them after they work.

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