Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague CALLS OUT Tracy McGrady HATE, Drake over Kanye West, T-Mac vs. Kobe Bryant DEBATE
Episode Date: September 17, 2026We’re back with Season 4, Episode 88, of Club 520 where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen speak on recent criticism of Tracy McGrady after he made comments on being able to win a championship wit...h Shaquille O'Neal if he had been in Kobe Bryant's spot with the L.A. Lakers. Jeff and the squad say T-Mac deserves his flowers for his individual accolades, and the guys debate whether or not his career was better than Boston Celtics star Paul George and tap in on his original comparison with Kobe. Teague and the fellas also give their take on Lil Wayne being the MIXTAPE GOAT and debate who the better hip-hop artist is between Kanye West and Drake. And don't miss Jeff and the guys discuss Mojo Brooks' Netflix special, the Atlanta Hawks' "Single AF night," weirdest foods to eat, Jeezy's Top 5 songs, and so much more!Timeline:0:00 - John Wall interview OTW!5:00 - B Hen's "Beauty in Black" update9:00 - 520 Alpha Den update15:00 - Drake or Kanye West DEBATE24:00 - Female rappers, Papoose's diss track27:30 - Snowfall30:00 - Buying "better" gifts for other girls39:00 - Weirdest foods to eat, no TV in Mike's house42:00 - Used TVs conversation Part 245:30 - Hawks' "Single AF" night51:00 - Mojo Brooks standup on Netflix53:30 - Top 5 Jeezy songs01:00:00 - Lil Wayne is the mixtape GOAT01:03:30 - Paul George better career than T-Mac?01:06:00 - 2000s NBA was bad01:08:00 - T-Mac hate is outta pocketVisit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-...Go to the app store or http://www.Kalshi.com and sign upCLUB520 - http://www.kalshi.com/r/CLUB520520 - http://www.kalshi.com/r/52018+ only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Event contract trading involves significant risk and is not appropriate for everyone. Please carefully consider if it is appropriate for you in light of your personal financial circumstances. Kalshi products are not available in all jurisdictions. See kalshi.com/regulatory for more information.Club 520 Merch store is officially open! Head to https://shopclub520.com/#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I tapped in another day, man, for the Emmys, boy.
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No.
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That's before?
Yeah, I don't know what you're going to be.
I don't know what the odds there is.
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horse,
you know what I mean,
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you know what I mean,
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Have you finished the season yet?
Oh boy,
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Oh,
he's been watching.
Okay,
yeah,
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yeah,
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Hey, he hooked.
Hey, got it.
Now,
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That's why it's...
I mean, were you there?
This is why I was...
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I'm saying, were you there when your dad came and said,
I need to see this real quick?
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Wait, that didn't happen like that.
That didn't happen like that.
It was cold that night.
I don't remember.
Oh, okay.
I don't know how the TV.
We never got the origin of the day.
I don't know how it just wasn't there.
I just don't think it was never there.
Oh, okay.
We like might have moved.
My fault, he was doing a great read.
Yeah, it was amazing.
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Honestly, it got real dark.
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Same gang with me as usual to my left.
We got my dog.
Bishop B. Head out the prayer lease.
How you were, nasty?
Chilling, bro.
I was a little upset that I couldn't make it to the Chief Keefe.
Oh, Kansar, Bub, you know.
He tore his leg apart.
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Praise up to my boy, Bob.
Yeah, for sure.
Mount.
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Sosa, babe.
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Pause.
I got to go backstage.
He ain't been backstage since WCW.
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The great hospitality, man.
He held it down for sure, family in the building.
Yeah, the Sosa concert looked crazy.
Also, one thing about a rap concert of her love is you see the demographic.
It is never always us, boy, it was a lot of white people in that crowd, boy, having the time.
Yeah.
Sautisby said a lot of the N-word
to his music, too.
So I'm wondering how that was.
Yeah.
I see in the front row.
Yeah, I'm sure that this can beat up.
Now, listen, from the information you gave us in the opening,
I see you've been tapped back in with Beauty's Black.
I see you progress with my boy almost through.
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I don't like his energy, bro.
Oh, Varney?
Barney.
Yeah.
And there has nothing to do with him being a queer or anything.
It's just how he's treating.
Oh, boy, it's crazy, bro.
That's part of the, you can say.
Yeah, that's part of the LGBT excuse me.
No, yeah, he's a queer.
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I'm saying, like, that shit has been so crazy.
Like, when a dude was about to hang itself.
Yeah.
And also, which is crazy, the fact that they didn't have a warning on that.
Now, normally, anytime you have any type of things that might be self-harm or something like that, there's a warning or a label.
They just got that off.
Well, no, I said, yeah, they're really wild.
Yeah.
The pops, when he was sitting across from and the pops was like, do it, do it.
He had a gun to us and he said, what you do it with some yarn?
Dude was shitty.
Man, why he's this thing and just trying to kill himself?
Nah, he doubled that horse.
Just not care, bro.
He said, oh, you're going to do it?
But horse is out of pocket because he wanted them two.
Horses left-handed too.
Yeah, bro.
You're so mad at your son.
That's why he's mad.
He said, I can be free.
You can't be, bro.
But man, the lawyer is blackmailing him?
Like, I'm like.
Blackmailing who?
Blackmailing the son.
No, they date.
Oh, you ain't there yet.
I'm there.
Oh, you're there.
When he tried to kiss him in front of.
of the daddy in front of horse.
He said, kiss me for all day.
He said, hold on.
He's going to get my pocket.
Well, yeah.
What did he say?
I'm doing my job.
He out of pocket because he was like, chill, not right now.
Say he fron.
Now, I tell you, the most ridiculous part about that entire show is when the ninjas came out.
Bro.
I said, all right, man.
Why the fuck is the power range?
Yeah, he got to fuck the vibes up with that.
But what I'm laughing at, though, on some real shit is like, when he took a
him back there with the gun.
How you got to that part?
Yeah.
Where he showed him the guns,
like that wasn't going to stop him.
Like, he thought he was going to scare him like.
Yeah, like, we get.
Like, people don't care about this.
Why you, you go kill us?
Because we know you.
That's insane, right?
He's that fat, for a little bit.
He said, bro, I have people who just tried to kill me the last few days.
I don't get it.
I don't know those people.
I don't think.
Yeah, he knows.
But I don't think he cares.
He's like, I don't care about your problems.
Oh, yeah, he knows everything.
Oh, man, a lot of updates would be here and tap in for sure, man.
Great TV.
It's just a wicker show, man.
Still to my right, my dog, young nacho, young Teague.
How you what?
Chilling, bro.
Just getting back in the basketball season, man.
Starting to have open gyms and stuff like that.
Been some good coaches coming to gym, so it's all, vibes.
Bob's just hot, man.
Do you be hooping against the kids at all, man?
I used to.
I probably start hooping in probably a week or two.
I get some good hooping every year.
My team back, though, Lou moving a little better.
Coach Field.
Lou did I confirm off camera.
Well, I thought he was moving better.
Coach Field, he only got one good day.
Okay.
His legs swelled up for two months.
Malk came to hoop.
He limped around a court a couple times.
Okay, Mel.
If you need a sub, it's calling.
Oh, Mike.
No, Mike.
Yeah.
They haven't been talking about that video, too.
They said, Mike, you were talking about unethical basketball
for all these breaks you need in a one-on-one game to say.
Crazy.
What are you talking about, man?
Because he changes the rules,
just had to ask all questions to make sure
we're on the set. All right, what's the rules you want?
The rules I want or the rules do you want to play by?
What are the confirmed rules? Yeah, what's the confirmed rule?
The confirmed rules, we plan about
ones and tools. I've never lost
to knock them when we play by ones and tools.
Okay. I only lost when we played by all ones.
I need
at least a 15 second break
between every two points made.
Excuse me? Why? Because that is crazy,
bro. And I need
the half time. So if we go to
Who gets a half? Oh, so you, you, if we're going to
30?
No, if we go to 10, I need to break it off.
That's great.
Yeah, Mal.
I don't know why y'all still can't see.
Y'all must be missing a lot of shots.
Don't need to bring up.
No, fair.
All the shots.
Y'all shit going to look like Greg versus a book.
They can only have rebounds in the Tennessee.
That's a lot.
It would let it lead.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Get well soon, man.
My boy, he came to his census.
Who?
Mike.
What do you say?
So we're not doing 285.
he's back down.
I think he said,
205.
I said,
275.
No, yeah,
the thing happened.
No, I did.
You think you can get to
275?
I don't want to show,
DJ.
Shout to the Alford there,
man.
You did $1.25.
How many times?
I haven't done $2.25.
I ain't tried again.
No.
Hey, I'm taking life insurance policies
on everybody at the Alphabet
going forward, man,
with these astronomical views
and things I'm trying to do, bro.
That's why I got scared.
You just see that video all sent?
I was a little.
I told you.
That's why I don't mess with the ways,
bro.
Now, here's it in.
225.1 time when you first walked into the gym.
You did 225 once.
Three four times.
Oh, three or four different names.
Had a five piece to it.
Had a five piece to it.
How come you can do it ten times?
He was guessing.
I want to see it.
That's a lot of weight, bro.
All right, Couchy.
We need to make the five-twenty market.
You can do a ten-time.
Yes, it's time.
Check the market.
But you think you can do it ten times?
Ten-tone, all right.
225, ten-tone.
I got four hundred you can't.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I love that talk.
Come work out on.
I love that nickel tongue.
Now, please realize that both of y'all have to come to work.
So as much as I have fun, we do not have any PTO days here at Club 5.
I can do it 10-tone.
3-15, 10-time.
3-15-10-0.
I can do it twice.
You can't do 285, 10-town.
285.
Now, I probably do it four.
Hmm.
I love how we turn into a diamond gym over here.
They probably do a four.
Did you watch a wardrobe?
I just seen a couple clips.
When he started to push him, he said, that's not what we're going to do.
O.G.
has so much patience with him, boy.
I ain't watched, bro.
No, he said, we caught him, girl.
He said, all right, everybody gets pulled out there.
If I go to the heel.
The things are really funny, bro.
No, they are absolutely hilarious for sure, man.
Would I go to Diamond Jam?
I would definitely go just for the vibes.
I can't say I'm going to live after I go there, but I'll pull up just for the vives, man.
I love what they doing.
You'll pull up, DJ?
You'll work out?
I said, I'm going to pull up.
That's what I'll say.
Now you got to, if you go, you got to go.
Hey, I get you about 50 push shirts, bro.
That's all I got from, bro.
He's going to cuss you out, though.
That's cool, though.
We'll go get the content.
Let me see.
I don't know if this is the one.
You can just play it anyway because Black Boy Max is hilarious.
Oh, let's see, boy.
He's definitely trying to be in beauty is black, season four for sure.
He's going to hear that.
Don't want to go there.
This he's due.
Playboy Max is a big streaming.
Playboy Max is a big streaming.
hell of a shame.
I'm just fine out about these war driving
can't hit.
He's not saying he'd be messing with a not like that,
but he'd be with a car.
Yeah.
In the room, we're going to do.
Yeah, he was pissing them off, man.
Dude was spotting him.
He said, oh, you need a man.
Can somebody else spot?
Too shitty.
It was in a type for no reason.
All right, man.
Let's disagree.
Yeah.
Who's live?
Who's live?
The Diamond Gym were.
Uh, this playboy Max.
Oh, okay.
This is a push-ups all or all right, bro.
What's the road.
What a lot?
Yeah.
You don't know.
We don't know you a way.
Oh, what's that?
Oh, what's that?
Oh, my shirt.
You push up the right way, please.
Or our way.
Hey, who was not?
This is a guy on the end.
Oh, let me have what's then?
Why don't you?
Mike over there, roll.
This had me crying, bro.
I had never seen him that patient with people.
He said, get the fuck out.
All right, man, let's get some drinks.
We go have fun today, man.
I already see the vibes.
Oh, more B's back.
He's back.
Like he never left.
He said a row.
Yeah, yeah.
When you're going out of town again.
All right.
What we got here?
Um, so we went with a little.
something a little floral today.
Let's try something different here.
A little floral, a little floral.
So we got...
Bandoline.
It's a dragon fruit
with some elder flour,
lime juice, and repo tequila.
It's that same dragon fruit juice
that was in there,
that's not open.
Yes, but it's...
I'm just saying...
I'm just trying.
I was mine, you know.
Gluten free?
No, it's not gluten-free.
Y'all see you drink it with Kiki,
so you're going to drink with me.
He said,
Kiki had the guy's drunk.
So I'm not.
Be here and back drinking.
Oh, I'm not.
You was leaking the chili room and everything.
I didn't know.
Get the chili reel.
So.
Put the chili on the right reel.
She's a good girl.
Somebody's going to have to go to the doctor after that.
You were her.
Somebody has to go to the doctor.
Yeah, please.
Please.
Put the chili in the table.
There's nothing going on this.
Spicy.
Like that, the nerds and jolly renters.
Nah, the craziest thing I think I ever did.
Well, I don't know if I could share that on camera, but Bootsie had a song.
Yeah, I didn't want to say that, but that's where I was getting it to, yeah.
Yeah, that's like 2010 guys.
Crazy.
Statue of limitations.
Absolutely.
Roald up.
On the wood?
Oh, the longer kids' lunches.
Not that's my planning around.
I don't even know they still made those, though.
Please go to the doctor.
But the fruit roll up on the wood is cool.
You got to try to put the pop rocks.
Pop rocks, definitely.
They sell those at the sex store.
Do they?
Yeah, right in the counter.
Yeah, especially used to have the blue ones.
P.H balances are in shambles across the nation.
I should put a couple of my head.
Not as she cleaned it all up.
This is about to be a wild ride.
Yeah.
The motherfuck is pop crazy.
I said, I don't know, she's my dad.
She's my dad at the time.
She's a demon.
No pop rocks go crazy.
Those motherfuckers are silly because of us fans.
Oh, man.
The wood is dancing.
Diamas, diamonds, diamonds won't be dancing.
That's the game, me.
Speaking to Drake,
did you guys catch the phone hole live last night, the music videos and joints?
Drake has new music.
Super, super fire.
They dropped already.
Yeah, he made music videos visuals for new stuff that's coming out.
A couple of fire songs that I heard.
I didn't catch everything, but it's,
a couple songs I did hear
I liked a lot.
The Don Tolliver.
You got one with Don.
Cool, but the cold shoulder.
You can't go with it?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spend that for sure.
I know nothing about this.
I'm out of pocket.
Yeah, dropped yesterday, man, the live stream.
People didn't know what it was the first
that I thought it was going to be an album,
but he put visuals with a lot of new music out.
So he dropped that one again?
What is the ring?
Yeah, the visuals are fired, bro.
Like, he's stunting a lot of this stuff.
I love it.
I like this energy from Drake.
From what I heard, the music sounds fire.
He did announce he's going on tour.
Obviously next year, people have been waiting for that announcement as well.
But hey, feel how you feel about Drake, bro?
He keeps making slaps.
He keeps making good music.
Drake is a...
No, I'm going to check it out.
I'm sure as far as though.
Drake is on that Mount Rushmore artists.
1,000% on there.
What you mean?
Just artists in general, a rapper.
Really kind of both, bro.
Yeah, he damn their one of the top artists.
Yeah, he's definitely on that.
Faire.
Damn.
Mount Rushmore
or music period.
That's tough.
I ain't mad to child
selection.
If I'm putting him on
Mount Rushmore,
but he's definitely
one of the better artists
about time.
You have to acknowledge it.
I just don't know
anybody who did anything
greater in hip-hop.
Like,
he has,
what, the most number ones?
Yeah,
from a statistical standpoint,
it's very, very,
very high.
I don't know.
He has music
that almost every generation
can relate to.
From little kids
to us.
us, like, dancing to women.
Like, it's some people.
What the older people listening to?
Hmm?
What the older people listening to?
Like, I don't know.
By the YAR8.
Okay.
Yeah, like, he came out with O'N.
Mm-hmm.
He grew up with us.
Well, he's probably about 40.
Yeah, he's 40.
Yeah.
So you'll put Drake next to Mike Jack, uh,
Prince.
I won't put him that high, but he's in those conversations.
I was going to just four.
Lower tier.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go with hip.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go with hip hop Mount Rush.
Oh, okay.
Because if we're doing artists, you know, Prince and Michael Jackson.
Beyonce.
Yeah.
And Beyonce and them like, but.
Is Drake as big as Beyonce?
No, absolutely not.
The Harris are hard to say it?
No, it's just not true.
He big as Kanye, though.
Yeah.
Ah!
You don't think Drake's the biggest Kanye?
Yeah, but who got a bigger influence?
I would say part of Kanye.
So if you're saying things are going to influence.
Yeah.
I won't disagree with that.
Does that say that?
You got to respect it.
But I liked it.
I thought it was fire.
I love the visuals.
I always love some good visuals.
Something for music.
I'm here for it, bro.
If it's fire, play it, bro.
Can't get mad at it.
How you feel about it to be?
Whatever, that's long gone, bro.
Enjoy it.
His brilliance is his art.
Like, he can make anything look cool, kind of.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Like, I agree with you with that.
But, like, as making music,
I'm not going to say that because producing music goes part of making music, too.
but Drake
catalog
and Kanye catalog
nah
duh
one's just better
in this Kanye
nah
I knew where
Dizha was going
we've been here before
one is just better
in this guy
I just went to the show
bro
I know
yeah
Drake got so many hits
that we couldn't even
you can run down
Kanye
hits
he did college dropout
B size bro
and it rang out
bro
I know he was in Chicago
but
you don't think
Drake could do B size
in Toronto and that shit
won't ring out.
He can do it in
Wichita, Kansas is going to rig out.
They both have two
of Mac in the Cowell's for sure.
But that producing aspect
make a difference.
You're just basically saying
Drake got more songs
that make sense.
You know all the collapse,
like all the verses
he didn't did
for every hot new rapper in the world.
Yeah.
Like, well, he started doing that shit.
It'd get too crazy.
Like, but the cheap part is
Kanye started off with like Jay.
Yeah, but he didn't have verses.
He got beats.
And like, yeah, Drake on the song.
Like, we're waiting for Drake Park.
We know Kanye, like, they shouted Kanye out.
Kanye on the track.
And it's like, okay, you made that record.
That's fire.
But Drake blessed a lot of people, bro.
What?
Everybody.
He blessed a lot of people.
Who you like more?
That's tough.
He got sexy red right now.
I don't know the song, but.
But he did a sexy red.
He did Migos.
He did everybody.
Turned Versacia.
Shout to the Migos.
They said it knew I'm on the way.
I love to hear that for sure.
And then they were both opposite and Craig
I was talking about that.
I was like, nah, when we first tapped in with Drake,
bro, it wasn't no funny business.
He just pulled up and did the features
off the strength type of shit.
Like, the splits was even.
He ain't tried this nothing.
He just put up.
Yeah, of course.
They have a weird relationship.
They have a weird relationship.
Actually, I don't know.
All right, man, shout out to Kalshi,
our new business partners, man.
Listen, it is an exchange where you can trade
on any event be here.
We ain't talking about this sports.
We can go to pop culture, politics,
whatever, man.
How are you feeling?
I love it, man.
You can do trades.
You can do politics.
You know what I mean, the house calls.
It's up to you.
Come on, man.
We ain't just talking about sports no more, man.
We can get into the BET Awards.
We can go see who got album of the year.
College basketball coming up, man.
We're going to bet on Kentucky, too, man.
Yeah, you know we got to tap in, man.
They're covering everything across the board, huh?
Yes, sir, man.
Let's get to $25.
Listen, man, for $25.
You're that $25.
What did that get, man?
They get an extra $25.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So you can put that $25 tours.
Luca probably won the MVP this year.
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That Drake's your fire.
I'm here for it.
I'm going to check it out, though.
Drake's cold.
Kanye got legendary music, isn't it?
We're comparing greats.
Yeah, they're top tier in their industries for sure.
They're still hot to this day and still touring and going crazy for sure.
I can't wait to see what Drake does on a new tour.
It's going to look crazy.
How long Kanye has been out since what?
College dropout, bro.
04.
Like, oh, 4.
Drake, 5.
years behind 0-9.
Yeah.
And I would say
Drake, recent music,
is way better
than Kaye's recent music.
I wouldn't disagree
with that at all.
So.
But,
yeah,
Kaye went through a time period
where he could not do no music.
Yeah.
I mean,
they tried to,
they tried to Drake it.
They tried.
He went through it.
Yeah,
he did too.
I'm not putting it
because Drake don't have
nothing like,
nigga,
you went through that.
I can't help that,
but Kanye throwing out
the bullshit albums and then he went.
The self-inflicted stuff
was on him.
I appreciate the gospel,
vibes.
That was hard.
That was kind of hard.
You can say,
oh, that's on their third album.
Spire.
Your musicianship is next to none, but.
And the clothes and the show.
But like, that future album,
that would be Kanye got washed the throne.
But like,
this album was crazy.
Like,
like,
Drake would never.
What?
Drake could never do a wash of the draw with nobody.
Nah.
It's all of it.
He did that one.
with future.
Yeah, I know, but it's not.
That was perfect timing.
It will, but it don't, it don't hit.
I don't think that Washington was coming out.
Not like Washington, bro.
Oh, what the time is fine?
That album hits, bro.
No, I love, you know, I'm future staying.
We've had a lot of conversations because I'm overly a future stand.
But Washington is the greatest collab album here, bro.
Because it was, it was Jay-Z.
Anytime when Jay-Z collab with Lincoln Park, it was hard.
Yeah, there's not.
I'm more fired, but.
You know what I mean?
You know what?
We heard old this, bro.
We heard all this, bro.
Oh, this was fired.
No, no, no.
That album is one of my favorites.
But I'm just saying,
he was getting his shit off on it.
It was, but any time you play girls.
Negroes in Paris when they just play,
gross.
I swear to God.
We would be the same way of J-Coe collab with
Jay-Z.
We'd be like this album.
I wish J-Co would collab with a producer
them three years.
He wasn't talking to nobody,
working with anybody else.
I'm just saying.
If Drake collab with Jay-Z,
we'd be saying that shit was hard, too.
We would be hyped.
I don't know because they got to make the music.
Bro, that shit would be crazy.
I would not want to hear Jay Z and Drake collect.
Because he wouldn't rap how, you know,
Drake rapped like whoever he around.
So he, for real, you know, he knew.
But even if the Spanish rapper all of a sudden,
this thing is Spanish rap is.
Hey, on the song on here, bro, his accent changes
on a couple songs.
He's like, all right, man.
He don't rap whoever you're right.
Just like Don Talibor on the song,
to him and down the top of it.
It wasn't a fire.
That's what I'm saying.
So he's getting a booth with Jayze.
He goes.
start, hey, he's going to start rapping
like he from New York.
And it's just going to be fired.
So Drake and Jake Cole
can make something comparable to Washington.
No, I didn't say him and Jake.
I said Jay-Z.
I said if Jay-Z and Drake came out.
Jay-Z's just a Trump.
Yeah, they tried to do that.
That's why the hell of Kendrick said,
hold on.
I don't even like this nigga to be doing
work with John.
That's kind of how they started.
Okay.
Like, if Kanye and Drake made an album,
it probably had some slaps,
but it wouldn't be Jay-Z.
and just pinned on the time period.
It wouldn't be Jay Z and Kanye.
It would be comparable.
I agree because their problems was different.
But if it was Prime Kanye and Prime Drake,
oh, them niggins would make a phenomenal album.
Yeah, it would be hard, but it wouldn't hit the same as Wash the Throne.
Kitton Cole couldn't make a wash of the throne?
I don't want Kendrick and Cole do nothing together.
That shit would be so motherfucking boring.
After the Black Friday freestiles that they teased like 15 years ago
and never did nothing about.
That album be boring his head.
I don't want to hear that.
So, Jay Cole, one of my favorite rappers.
But that album would be too motherfucking.
Cole works better by himself and I understand why.
wish that he would get hooks and stuff from other people, you know what I'm saying?
What's two female artists that you would like to see collab?
Oh, I'm cool.
Two female artists?
Vegas, boy.
We said WNBA.
Ah, I don't know.
Andrews and C.C.
Link it up.
I really don't listen too much to female rappers like that.
What?
I don't.
Look, women not supported women.
It's not even that, but I just don't.
I thought you might listen to Casual.
Oh, no.
Oh, Cash doll?
I listened to him, but not.
I'm on a regular frown to be like, you know, I love Mona Leo.
I love Ken the man, Nikki Minaj, Pashtaw's Fire.
But I'm not like super in tune to go word for words to be like, oh, this is who needs to be.
Okay.
Speaking of, uh, Remy Ma, please play the Papoos.
Have you heard that?
Oh, man.
This is, Jazibal.
Hilarious.
Please play this.
He made a disc record by Remi Ma?
Yes.
Let's keep you.
No, no.
And they move runs a bastard in a cheetah.
Jezebel, I heard your statement
You said it well
But that doesn't make it the truth
Once again you failed
Jezebel, you act like an angel
Pretending well
But you're a demon
We know the difference
Heaven hell
For the day I give you money
Did you get the same?
Did you get that zelle
Has been viral for the last day?
Like that.
There you go
Did you get that zelle?
I love PEP
I'm just not the
That's not my kind of this
That's not my kind of this
We should know about your business
But if you're going to talk about it
That's him rapping over like a common beat.
That's what I said, you know, he felt that for real
because he calmly disrespecting.
Yeah, like, ah.
I'm here for ex-disc records, though.
Because take a shot for me is one of the best disc records of all time.
And Drake is dissing all his girls.
Yeah, but this is just doesn't.
See, Drake, that's my thing.
Like, some people can't make that song.
Yeah, a shot for me.
Like, that song hard.
Lire.
Amazing song.
Yeah, Kendrick can't make.
That's your hard.
That beat.
So nasty.
Yeah.
Pat Poole, shout out to you, man.
Oh, yeah.
No disrespect to Pat.
That ain't my type of.
This year X is always hilarious
in my book.
That ain't my type of me.
I know DJ is the women
hate club, so he's all.
Thank you.
No, DJ don't like women.
He probably didn't listen.
DJ hate your person.
Fuck his bitch.
Fresh play.
So y'all getting bashed on the internet
by a female, you're not going to respond
at all.
He's going to let her get her shit off.
No, I'm saying.
You're arguing with a girl in real life?
If, if, yeah.
Not just a girl.
This is his ex-wife.
And she's bashing him on the internet, making him look terrible.
I'm Clay Thompson.
You're just going to be quiet.
Hall of Shade through the pressure.
I ain't talking back to no woman, man.
You got it.
Ain't nothing you can say that can outdo a woman, bro.
Yeah.
Jezebel.
I don't want to outdo her after what my voice heard.
That's fine, but all she got to do is like,
Nick, the reason I did is because of this.
They could be a line off.
And y'all, they're going to.
Yeah, the girls are always in the Trump card with some,
yeah, they can go lower.
Yeah.
They can go lower the line.
I've not arguing.
You all know somebody who went low on the internet.
I'm not arguing with no one.
And at no point doesn't look good with you arguing with a woman,
even if you happen to be right, bro.
It is what it is, bro.
That is tough.
She did take those pictures with Clifford.
She was ops in the boxer world or Alicia Bumgarner.
Somebody else doing the music video, that's a hard.
Are they friends?
Well, I don't know if they're friends, but they linked up and he was like that.
He's looking on my ops.
You really hate me.
I moved on fast.
She got a new boy.
He talked about it.
We talking about Easy, the block captain?
Well, I don't know what that was about.
I think that was some of that beefers up.
He's a white boy?
Oh, no.
Yeah, she got a white boy.
I think they was just doing a music video.
The white boy?
Yeah, they got a song together.
Oh, okay.
He was like choking her and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Jada kiss the artist, I forgot, he called too.
I'm gonna say I ain't too familiar, but I don't know.
He goes on.
He's hard, though.
Back in the TV world, the snowfall, the drop.
I watched episode two.
It's fire.
It's fire.
I was a big, episode one.
It ended fire.
Shout to my boy, Simba.
Simba is on there acting like Simba, bro.
He was born for this shit, bro.
You guys, that's been.
Simba do a really good job on that show, man.
I fell asleep when she was selling the car,
and it was like, I mean, she was a crack head.
I told her, and he said, yeah, we're going to get this from somewhere.
Yeah, she was a crack here.
I was watching.
I started laughing, dude, I fell asleep.
Yeah.
You know, family boy, they don't forget nothing because he was just like,
I trust Wanda.
He's like, hey, you trust her with your Christmas gifts,
and she sold her for crack.
And every point they reminded Wanda that she was a crack head.
Yeah, I would too.
on my life.
One of y'all niggins do crack
and y'all get clean.
I'm going to remind you
that y'all used to be crackies all the time.
Why would you do that, bro?
That was pretty cool right there.
Sounds about.
You mentioned crack in here three times.
Yeah.
Like, get his ass away from there.
He still tweaked out from salsa last night.
My boy had been to sleep.
Wait, I got a question for y'all, though.
Like, speaking of Christmas,
how would you feel being
and Jeff came for Christmas
and he bought your wife a Birkin.
What?
You don't got to worry about that, buddy?
How would you feel?
Y'all family.
He show up to Christmas.
He got everybody against me.
He come with your wife with a Birkin.
I won't give a damn.
Wait, what?
I'm just saying, I don't know how Facebook Live
got to the show.
Turn it up.
Y'all want to make your show better.
You said they family or are they just friends?
They're family.
Like real family?
No, we're all family.
All right.
Okay, we just cool.
I don't give it full.
Okay.
How would you feel if your friend came with an expensive-ass gift for your significant other?
I wouldn't give for you as, then.
How would you feel?
Oh, I'm going to be hype.
It'll be okay?
I was like, dude, you bought her a burger boy, you clouded, boy.
When did you get me?
Yeah.
I wouldn't get me.
I wouldn't get me.
I would be like, well, you saved my Christmas, dick.
Yeah.
I don't know shit too.
Jay?
Hey, shout to you, brother.
No.
No, I'd answer, like, why are you?
I'm like, why are you bought that dumb at shit?
No, for real.
You're feeling to some bread.
What the fuck on?
You fell into some bread and bless my wife.
A $20,000.
I'll be like, I can't even imagine what you got your wife.
Yeah.
Now, the crazy part is if you get your wife the coach,
then there's going to be some conversations.
Yeah, I'm about to say that.
If you don't want to stop this and coach,
I'm just talking out to coach.
It's premium leather.
Quality leather.
But if you got your homie's wife of Birkin
and you grab your wife a coach,
there's a disconnect.
I hope your wife
got three burkins or something.
Well, he'd be like,
well, my wife,
like coach,
your wife, you know,
she used to do with you.
She's a burkin lady.
Well,
somebody's wife is going to say,
brother.
Your wife don't really like coach,
brother.
You might want to switch them back.
You got to stop.
It's not too late.
Here, babe, give it, baby.
You got to stop.
Well, girl.
If your wife told you
she won't coach
and you bought my wife a burkin,
I'm going to go,
I'm going to tap you,
bro.
I'm like,
give me your wife
I'm going to tell you, get out of my locker.
I'm going to say, hey, I think we exchanged the road gifts, bro.
Look at you.
I'm saying, I think you gave my wife the wrong one.
No, I don't think you hear me.
Yeah, like, I think you might want to get this to your wife.
Coach got the best leather in the world.
That's fine.
And I'm saying, you still got the wrong bag.
We need the best leather in the world over here.
That's because she still waiting for her other bag.
Holy cool.
That's not a problem.
$800 bags.
I almost said something that was going to get our shit fucked up.
I'm about to say, look.
No, don't see.
He was about to say, let me look.
Things are to wait for the moment where they can put it off.
When they can what?
Hey, yo, Phil.
Hey, yo.
Hey, yo.
We ain't doing that.
This is Barbie's fault.
No, yeah.
I'm just saying.
No.
I'm just saying.
No.
Barbie doing a bar you holding off like DJ count on the day.
He said, I ain't got no first of me.
He told me some information.
9 o'clock is further back.
No?
Exactly.
Oh.
Oh.
This has nothing to do with Barbies.
We'll talk about that after a show.
So, Barbie, let's put you in this situation.
You are the girl on the opposite end of the friend.
Okay.
So your.
Sidney and the other buys your.
friend a burkin.
By his friend.
My chance of burkin.
Yeah.
Let's say he bought you a burkin too, but then he just bought you a friend of Berkin.
Oh, no, no.
Let's just say he got you, whatever you got.
Yeah, because he's got what you wanted.
He got me a Louis, got her a Berkin.
No, no, no, no.
That's what I mean?
Okay.
Whatever you want, but he just bought, he's like your friend are like a Burkin.
Yeah, because he always hearing the Burkins.
It's going to be an issue.
You got Berkin money?
What I'm saying?
But you didn't want a Burkin.
Yes, you got what you wanted.
See, that's a problem with these hypothetical conversations.
I don't care.
Okay, so what about he got through a burking?
And then he got your friend of Burke.
Better be cool.
Better be cool.
That one make you feel the way.
My sister, yeah, love her to death.
Hope her nigga do the same.
But.
He not.
No.
But no.
If you, no, there's no way you're buying anybody a higher gift than what you got me.
But you got what you want to be.
I don't care.
That don't make the mask not math.
It usually doesn't.
Yeah, that's the problem with those hypotheticals
That's just said
That's the beauty is black conversation
I'm just surprised that you would let him buy
Your friend of Birkin
And he bought you a Berkin
Yeah, as long as, yeah
If he's in a position to buy two Birkins
And you bought my friend one
That's good, now I don't have to.
Well, I'm only in position.
That's the goal.
That's the goal to be able to buy my friend.
I want to try to be like cash dog
She goes crazy for her friend.
I ain't going to lie.
Yeah.
If your friend single
And I buy her a burkeens, I buy her a bag.
Buy her Birkin, she's spending the night.
That ain't not that kind of friend.
Oh, that's what kind of friend.
Not that kind of friend.
No, no, we're telling you.
Uh-uh.
I would live for a child.
My baby.
Oh, it's our baby now.
It's above you.
You ever see the memes like,
my nigga buy you a drink?
You with us tonight?
Yeah.
Now, imagine my fucking buy you a burger.
No, not chat.
You live with us.
I'm saying, just give it back, baby.
Let it go.
Nah.
Let it go.
Uh-uh.
We give it to somebody else.
Chad.
That's not.
Yes, she has a month.
She didn't have no burger.
You said she's a month.
He said to get Chaz and had no burger.
She came up to that egg.
Turned Chazza to Daphne.
That's out of pocket.
But I was watching the underground lounge and they had asked her like
if Drey was offering her some land
and she had a man, would she take it if he didn't want her to type of?
That girl Holly, they love co-host.
Her mouth is so big and it's so sexy to me.
I love girls with a big old mouth.
I was like, this is.
I'm like this, she's about to roast your ass back.
I thought you were roasting.
She has a big mouth.
I love the big mouth.
Shout to underground loud.
You think she's pretty?
I like her mouth.
I think she's pretty.
You can't talk to women like that, Barbie.
I can't because I'm a woman.
Respect.
You can.
And she was, what about the land?
What happened with the land?
They had asked her if Drake, like, gift to her with a bunch of land and her man, you know,
wasn't for it.
But she's still taking it.
And basically, she's like, if he's being insecure, this is a come up, blah, blah.
Would you take it?
If your man right?
now that you got?
My man right now I got, no, I wouldn't take it.
You see, I threw that in there.
She had a bounce for her.
Nah.
I wouldn't take it.
So you wouldn't take the land.
Oh, outside.
Why?
Why?
Get the jackets.
Why?
It's no fun.
Why you wouldn't take the land?
Because you got a man?
Crock pie season.
Oh, wow.
If you felt disrespected or just this.
All right, so we brought a G-wagon up here and we like, Barbie, this is for you.
You ain't going to take it.
The guy.
Oh, I'm fucking.
My job.
the guy will kill
we're not the guy
shit.
Well, not before we...
You literally told us
we ruined
everybody's relationships
with men.
Hmm?
You, Kiki, Ketana,
we fucked the vibes up.
Just us being on here
talking.
Oh.
Not y'all.
No, not y'all.
Their job.
So we ruined that
where y'all talking
and we like,
yo, Barbie.
Let's just say
one of us just brought the keys.
I got something
for you outside.
What's your nigga on say?
He could be up here
and they got a bow on it.
Yeah.
He can record.
If he looked at me,
give me the wrong look,
I'm gonna be like,
I can't hear.
Like, it's just like with me.
I'm like,
shh, I've been.
Barbie.
I've been,
thank you, man.
You need to ride clean, man.
And I hand you to G-Waggy.
If he ain't with it,
he ain't with it.
If you're going to hand it back,
you're a goddamn lie.
He's going to be like,
he's over.
Barbie's going to say,
how long are you planning on keeping it?
This nigga on the lease itself.
Like me.
She's going to break up with that dink or something?
But like, he's not.
He got to come.
He got to come G-Same.
So you, so you and buddy,
rocking steady, that's good.
Because your answer's about a lot of shit
is a lot different now.
That's what I'm saying,
because I would have easily been like,
yeah, yeah, Drake offered me anything.
I'm taking it.
You are growing up, man.
You got caught in the airport.
Now y'all are together.
Yeah, before the airport.
Oh, okay.
Tough times bringing closer together.
You will not go.
Got them G-wack and, you know,
those bumpers are very, very expensive,
Barbie, by the way.
The windshield is expensive.
You can't just pick that up with a what she put on there?
I feel like you put nothing on it.
I'm gonna, you can't just zip tight out.
I'm gonna go get it doing.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
Bro or fix it.
I'll let her find out.
Yeah, it's hell, bro.
Yeah.
I got a nigga now, he.
That's a little bit about that.
She got a man, huh?
I got me only man.
Why didn't they guys wide up on them before that shit?
Get that bitch together.
He said, nigger.
I want to get people.
He didn't take that shit.
He's not a little
family.
He's trying to do it.
But we ain't,
we ain't been in my car.
Otherwise,
I'm pressing her princess,
so he ain't seen the day.
What did he do?
What do you do?
Which one?
Oh,
talk to him.
What you got to do?
Hey,
which one to get?
I'm here.
I love that.
I love that.
What do you?
No, I'm just feeling.
Can Cambridge.
He got a few.
We would have every disrespect.
Shout out to bro.
You know we're bullshit.
Yeah, he got four.
We never disrespect to camera in this.
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Well, I don't know what that video is, but I don't want to sit on my screen no more.
I used to ask y'all about it.
Oh, we're not like this?
You know, you a food connoisseur.
Like, how crazy?
Swearin for root.
Let's go with the food.
Man, what is that?
And this is a bag.
Lou and Jeff.
What is this?
What is this?
What is that?
What is the hell is this?
Is that a penis?
Is that a penis?
Yeah, I told Barbara to bring a couple questions to the show to the day.
Never.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
What is that?
I have no idea.
A sea snail?
Oh, he or now.
They're shooting stuff.
It's a lot.
Oh, no.
You know how to park for positive right now.
That's what was scared of me.
I thought this is.
We just played the wardrobe clip.
I was like, this is the next hour of rhythm.
I was a little scared, but.
Beauty is black.
So you ain't trying no crazy food.
Now, that's crazy, but you're like trying nothing.
No, I eat, I ain't like real.
I eat frog.
I eat rat.
I love a good rabbit.
Rat.
I was like, being.
I swear to God, bro.
We got to clean that shit up.
You eat rat.
I'm not a rat, bro.
I want to say, what I'm having a rabbit before.
I have rabbit.
Yeah.
It's tough.
I had deer too, deer pretty good.
Dear meat.
Shout to no offense.
You never know it says some of the Chinese establishments.
Have you ever had turtle before?
Like different parts of the turtle tastes like different animals.
How many parts have you had?
I had a couple.
The whole turtle ain't that big.
I agree with that boy.
She ate the west.
What's right?
The head.
Turtle head is.
I had a country neighbor back in the day.
He was like, yeah, it turns turtle.
Turtle stool.
There's no telling me.
This is when you didn't have no TV.
That boy,
the-out-trial stuff.
It was about around the time, actually.
It sounds like a, it was about the trailer part that you're talking about.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, we got to show.
I live in a home.
I live in a home.
Yeah, it had will.
Was this in Hollywood?
Yeah.
I was in a Hollywood?
Yeah.
He said, he said it had a home.
He said, had a home to do.
No disrespect to the video.
You lived in a lot of houses before you was like, grown?
No.
Okay.
We moved around one.
Damn.
Damn, man.
It's dark for my boy.
Damn.
They got some here.
Yo, I just didn't have, I had a beautiful life.
I just didn't have a TV.
That's dark, man.
I can not have a TV in the whole house.
It's crazy.
I thought you just said in your room, in the whole house?
The whole house.
Yeah, because I think you just walk in.
And they got to actually talk to each other.
I'm not here for that.
They walked in some silence.
They didn't even have a radio record or nothing.
My grandparents had a TV in their room.
Did you have a record player?
A record player.
Yeah, did you have a record player?
I mean, shit.
You didn't got no TV.
They were probably using his,
Mike's TV was probably at the Pond Shop, though.
That's what they used to do a lot.
For a,
nobody just don't have a TV, bro.
Y'all.
That's what I'm saying, you,
bro.
I was one of my mom,
we moved back with my grandparents.
It was no need for us to have a TV.
We didn't plan on staying there forever.
Okay.
So, there's no TV in the whole house.
Didn't have a TV.
Where did TV's from the previous house ago?
What the fuck?
No.
Exactly.
I told you to the Pond Shop.
TV's travel with everyone.
I'm nuts.
One TV.
more was prior to that.
Hey, and you know what?
They was on us.
Oh, you'd be hearing in the comments.
They said, be here,
getting too much money,
talking about buying used TVs.
No, listen.
I hope he said my whole house came
when used TV.
Back in the day,
I will get a used TV
because when flat screens
was transitioning
from the floor models
to the goddamn
on the wall joints,
that was different.
I'm saying now,
I swear to God,
bro, a 50-inch
nigg is like $150 now.
You can't get a TV for a reason?
Yeah, bro.
That's all I was saying.
I ain't getting too much money.
That's just a reality.
He said that won't 50.
cool. I got this hundred on Facebook Marketplace,
boy. Because one thing
I can say, though, about that, too, is like
why it's out of pocket because your warranty is only like $20, bro.
Go to the store and get a TV.
Because that's where the guy, you can, this nigga says,
I don't buy warranty. I don't buy warranty.
Please, please. I don't put no warranty on the TV.
It's fine. It's mounted. It's okay. It's actually not
mounted. I need to hit buckler. If the TV goes out,
you can buy TV from a nigga. You can go over his house.
He can show you the whole thing, bro.
It works.
you put it in your car,
I sort of got
both put up some TVs.
I bought seven new TVs,
we took on these niggas.
God on these niggas.
I got seven.
It's like 10 in the career,
but I have bought seven.
And when I put them in the car,
yeah,
niggas foul,
when I put them in the car,
I one of them fucked up.
I was able to have my warranty,
bro.
And you know what I made extra?
I would have been pissed about it
because I can't go to
that I just bought the TV off his wall.
I say, hey, my nigga, this motherfucker don't work.
Yeah, that's it.
Now, they bring my, I always tell the people who bring them to hang them up.
I see, somebody buy a lemon in the car.
Boy, he said, hey, man, I was going to call, buddy.
I said, yeah, brother, he ain't on their brand show call again.
This is your problem now.
Yeah, sure, man.
He's not good.
That's what they did to him.
Damn.
Shout to my nigga.
Yeah, you got, you got to talk to it about with that.
The whipy buck.
That shit.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he's like, boy, that my fuck broke.
I ain't going to tell us.
story. You know, he got a pile of.
Yeah.
I think it was.
All right, man.
I know y'all seen Natal Perry walk into the tunnel.
Lou Young is hilarious, man.
I've never seen the actual walk through the tunnel.
I got you.
We'll play after this.
Lou Young, it's hilarious, man.
Shout out to be as well.
I'll be on the video.
Is that what he did?
Yeah.
Stand there.
Oh.
The patty can't get crazy.
Yeah, he don't go on.
It's hilarious.
He's going to never be in the Tall Perry Field.
That's wrong.
Hey, man.
No, he didn't do all that.
It's me.
Mike can't find it while we here?
They did all that.
You know why did I get married, too?
He was, like, directing, and he was still sounding like Medea.
I was confused.
Like, that was weird.
You know, he would sound like Medea.
I'm like, what the hell is?
He is Medea.
He plays soccer.
Yeah, that's true, DJ.
She said, that's true, DJ.
All right, I keep playing with that, D.A.
I'll come here on here.
Let me stop.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
They're thinking about the church so bad.
Oh, tell him.
What's how you doing?
No, my mom in here.
I can't tell this stuff.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't do you.
I'm saying.
That's a thing that isn't strong.
And I'm going to do.
I'm sorry.
I'm glad of you.
Ah, for real.
Please go watch it if I haven't watched it, man.
It is going to be entertaining.
I mean, Jeff didn't like it.
It's solid for what it is.
It is, bro.
It is entertaining, bro.
For sure.
It's 520 somewhere big.
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If you buy a Birkin, buy one for all her friends.
It's my ruin Christmas for sure.
Please go.
We're here, man.
I don't know why my patience are always involved in the bullshit.
Shout to the Hawks.
They have had some crazy nights before,
but apparently it is going down again.
What is this, January 7th?
It is a single-ass-fuck night.
I don't know why, but this event is designed
to bring singles together with opportunities to meet and mingle
and join Hawks basketball.
It doesn't like page the basketball to say,
hey, let's get together.
Nah, it's Atlanta different.
Yeah, when I played there,
they had a Tinder night, so you can everybody log on Tinder
and it was like the Hawks app or something,
and you can swipe right and get a date at the game.
Damn.
It was you just said you had a man.
Oh, anyway.
It was it.
Now the Gwagon is available.
Look there.
See?
Chris Brown featured a little way.
Yeah.
Damn, boy.
Oh, God.
Now, Atlanta is different.
To have that here is crazy.
But in the A?
Yeah.
A lit night in the A.
Bro, that arena be looking like the club, bro.
Usually was.
We used to, me and Lou was talking about.
We used to have the best.
Atlanta is the coolest place to play.
We used to have.
the concerts after the game.
T.I. perform after the game.
He performed during the...
Thug. Yeah, they knew the halftime after.
We had Thug. We had a bunch of people.
Yeah, my first Hawks game, nigga.
It was Lou Phil.
Of course, you, but...
I see Anthony Davis kill y'all.
But this is when it ain't about the money came out.
Yeah, T.I. Performing.
He brought Thug out.
Ooh.
Yeah, that started the run right there, bro.
Ad. D. was killing Jeff and him, DJ.
Did we win?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
He went bananas, though.
He was...
Hellicants, A.D.
Yeah.
New Orleans, Ad, was crazy.
He was cold.
To be fair, obviously, they canceled
Magic Seat Night last year,
which was a barber man,
still get well, son to my boy
for ruining it a good experience.
Yes.
But this is crazy.
I'm just...
You think this is crazy?
I think that's fired in the line.
I think it's what?
I like it.
I'm just surprised we're a part of it.
Like, the patient's being a part of this,
just random shit, bro.
Yeah, they knew it'd be a good night.
Yeah, I'm rolling with that.
Everybody'd be happy and a good vibe.
We're going to beat the baseball show.
And that's the perfect wild for that arena.
I ain't going to say the city, but the arena for sure, bro.
You always talk about that.
There was always some entertainment shit going on.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, Atlanta is not like a sports town.
So everything that they do is more of an entertainment thing.
So the game, bro, like we would go.
It would be all entertainment.
Like, they rooting for the Hawks.
Yeah, cool, whatever.
But it's all entertainment.
Like, oh, it's a club.
Yeah, it was a real good.
You get a fight up there and everything.
Nah, motherfuckers just come to the games.
DJ.
I ain't bullshit,
bro.
That was dimmer
like the pregame
before the night
story.
I swear.
It used to be girls,
man.
This was back in the day.
But it used to be
girls that would walk
up the,
Luno I'm talking about.
She would walk up
the steps every game
and a whole arena
go like that.
And we all on the bench
like,
there's go.
One girl.
One,
Luna, all in line?
That's crazy.
Every game.
She would be there.
She had up to go get a drink
And everybody here
She like did it
At the second beginning of the second quarter
Every time
The whole arena go
And nobody ever
I know
Anybody ever tap in
Like everybody
Oh man
I'm gonna fuck the fat
Anybody ever
Anybody ever enter the chat
And Davis like to chat
I ain't never see her outside the game
Yeah
busy at work man
I wasn't busy at work man
I wasn't busy at
I was on the bitch.
That is crazy, bro, because that game used to be
packed.
So for all these people to be looking at this one,
what fuck?
It was so ridiculous, bro.
I'm not going to lie.
And then people that know who went to them games at that time,
we all know.
We all used to talk about it.
So they went from that,
then they were talking about a gospel night.
That's how to tell you diverse that arena was.
Come on.
Oh, you did have a gospel night.
It needs to be acquired that announcers.
We used to have a little kid night where the kids used to announce the
Hey, man.
Shout to the dog.
They didn't get active for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Them years before Tyrese was there
when the Pacers was really, really sad,
boy, you just looked in their friends
and family section
at the Pacers games
and you knew what was what.
Yeah.
It was real easy to identify.
That's what make it bad about the Pacers.
It was always friends and family
or like, all the girls
are being in that little section.
So you're like, oh, okay, she's with them.
At the Pog's game,
the whole arena's field.
Really, bro, the top of the motherfuckaburger big.
You'd be in that.
A bad motherfucker up here.
Our games bridge, you see.
is she taking that selfie in Section 16?
Yeah, no.
It don't matter where the selfie
coming to Atlanta, boy, they're there.
Back then.
I don't know what they got going now.
I ain't really been to a game.
Bob is totally different.
We got to pull into a hockey game this year, man.
We got to go last year?
Yeah, year before last.
Yeah, we got to put back up to Atlanta, man.
Bob's always hot, man.
They show us love for sure.
For sure.
Shout to Mojo Brooks, man.
He got a Netflix special dropping all October 6.
I think that's absolutely fire.
He has been on a crazy run.
520 alumni for sure.
Everywhere he goes
This weekend
Thought out shows
How you're going
in Vegas
That's all right
That out to him
Bro
The grind
We saw it early on
Bro, congratulations
I can't wait to see it
Yeah
He'd been going crazy
bro
Mojo Brooks one
He really started
From the mud
Like
Skits to this
This is
This is fire
To be able to do
skits
And then really be good
At stand up
Like he's the only
I'm not gonna say
The only one
But he's the only one
In my recent memory
That I can remember
That really
Really really was good
At standup
at this skits
Yeah
Him in D.
DC for sure
Yeah DC fire too
But I think it's not gonna say it's easier
But he would like
He do whaling out
So in their comedy is kind of like
Yeah but he do solo shit
But I can't say
Well I can't I don't know
Because Vine was lit
But I see what you're saying
I see what you're saying
And the more recent people to transition from
I won't say the internet quote
To quote to doing that type of stuff
To that stage
Definitely for sure for him
Because I didn't really see DC do skits
Like Vine was with like one minute
Yeah
It was like something quick, right?
Rest the piece of wine, man.
I wouldn't say it was, like, he was doing real-ass skits.
Like, yeah.
That's what I see what you're saying.
D.C. was just roasting it.
Yeah, D.C. was...
It's on a hell.
Mojo probably number one for sure.
But, oh, boy, that'd be going crazy on Facebook with the series.
Oh, damn.
He retired.
What's his name?
From up.
God, Darskin can do with the, with the girl.
I can't think his name over now.
He didn't cuss him.
I know.
Country Wayne.
Country Wayne.
He ran it up.
He took over.
He got his own production company and stuff now.
Desdy Bank's doing a good job, too.
Yeah.
I would definitely fuck with Desi.
I just think it's dope for comedians like him to do this because
they get slow maintenance.
It's just you in the mic.
You ain't got to have no crazy production.
You know what I mean?
You ain't have no band, all that shit.
It's just you, bro.
So he gets all that bread.
And that's the art to it, too, in my opinion, for you to do that.
Like you said, you're a one-man, man.
You got to put there and deliver.
That's hard.
That's hard.
That's a lot of pressure.
Yes, bro.
We see the progression with him.
He is immaculate, man.
What he does, shout out to Mojo Brooks Boy,
keep killing it proud of you for sure.
Have you seen a Mr. T documentary?
Yeah, I watched it.
I liked it.
Only thing I had the issue was that one dude was that one dude,
like, confirmed or denied what he was saying.
One white dude who was basically saying, like,
yeah, he got money, it became an asshole.
Yeah, and then they, I know it's a,
it seemed like it was a positive documentary.
Yeah.
You see it got dark for, like, it was three minutes.
It was like, yeah, he got sued and all this stuff.
And I'm like, I would have wondered, like, why that, what happened?
Like, they just kind of breathe about that real quick.
Yeah, he said, I live in a moment.
I said, I know what that means.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're playing the highlights on this show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that dude was just, he was talking kind of crazy.
I was like, damn.
And didn't nobody, like, just checking for this?
Yeah, yeah.
That story about him pulling up on the dudes who robbed his mom with the shotgun.
Yeah.
Yeah, I believe everything about they say.
Me too, bro.
Yeah, it's a P-1 bullshit.
Yeah, he ran down on nakes for sure.
Fire documentary, if you haven't seen to tap me in for sure.
Shout out to Gizi, man.
is ranking his top five songs personally.
Let's play it.
Matt, grab that off the door for me, Mal.
Matt, I would say five would be on the intro to chopper die.
Elite.
You know, you see what you're crazy.
I was thinking about what I was going through.
I heard the music to be, I just knew what I want to do with.
And I heard these people on the sports on it.
I was like, though, you said, I would say four would be go crazy because me doing that
song and having three verses on it.
It being on my debut album and me telling myself,
you got to get Jay Z on the song.
And I remember telling some of the people that was around me there.
It's like, you're crazy.
That never happened.
And I got Jay Z on the song.
Three, I would say put on because of the show,
but I put on.
I had a song on the recession.
I got money.
And that song was featuring me in T.
And supposedly, Kanye, U.S.,
and he called me, he asked me who produced the beat.
And I told him DJ Tune.
He was like, give me his number.
I didn't think nothing of it.
So he calls Tump, and he gets the show.
stems. And right before I got to turn the album,
then Kanye called me and said,
yo, I'm sitting in my first. He went and changed
the whole record on his part. I was like, yeah, this is a whole
different song. I can't put it on. Plus, I don't have time to mix it.
And he was like, I ain't cool, cool. I let it go. He called me
about eight months later. He said, yo, can I leave your ad lives
on the song? And I was like, what song? He used to come out of the studio.
So he played me the same song that was my song. Because if you
listened to it, he got the same adlibs as I got money. That song
was waiting until I get my money right. And I remember his mother passed,
And he wasn't doing any music for a while.
And I called him, he said a real conversation.
And I said, look, man, I'm finishing my album.
And I got this record and it's called put on.
I would love to have you on it.
Hey, he's not, yo, Jesus.
I haven't been in the verses a long time.
But, you know, for you, I said, now you come up with any symptom to me.
And I had never heard nothing like that.
That was a special moment.
Dr. Never.
And this might sound crazy.
Space.
Thank you.
True.
With favor.
True, DJ.
I got to get on this.
I don't know why.
That being in his pop all of news.
But that is a bagger for sure.
It was just going to love.
Like, I never went to him and tried to negotiate.
I just did it.
Gave it to somebody.
And they took it to the radio in the club.
I was just happy to hear me on it in the club.
I didn't realize that it was going to go like that.
My number one spot is done it all on the recession.
That's surprising.
I used to have nothing.
Done it all.
That song to me is probably one of the best songs I ever worked as far.
It's just like the cadence and what I was saying.
I don't know.
I don't have to hear Childson's Easy.
I watch this and I said maybe
seen it all is what he meant to say.
No, done it all. I guess this is a personal favor for him.
Respect. Yeah, that's all right.
It's a lot of fire.
Why are you gone in top five for my Jesus?
I've done it all night in my top.
Yeah.
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Respectfully, I didn't ever skip that.
I'm not supposed to song on recession.
Like, that's nice.
I'm a better song to done it all to me.
But that's, I mean, he wrote the shit.
Yeah.
Who am I going to get?
He made it.
Interesting list, though.
Very, very interesting.
That trap or not intro is fire.
Shout to my boy first class.
He was just talking about this.
I missed the days where artists
just put out mixtapes before the album.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Them was long gone.
Have to.
Streaming completely changed that.
There's no way you should do that no more.
Damn, bro.
I'm just thinking about these songs.
Like, geez, got a lot of class.
Not, like standing ovation and all that shit.
I'm surprised.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Way too good.
songs is my favorite Jesus song.
Said I'm hard than the motherfucker right now.
That is a fire song, bro.
He got a league 20.
Well, Jeezy?
Oh, probably more than that, respectfully.
Yeah, Jesus catalog, especially features, bro.
Oh, he got crazy.
He can go off on a lot of people in the verses.
I was watching somebody pod.
I wasn't watching their pods, so no disrespect.
But I came across their shit on Instagram,
and they was talking about Rihanna and I having 20 songs.
You seen that?
I was like, yeah, he's tripping.
Yeah, I'm tripping.
He's on the ball, brother.
Yeah, I was like, Rihanna got 20 something.
This is because people, she's been gone so long.
Yeah, Rihanna got 20-old.
People forget. She had a crazy four-year run.
Where it was just bang-er, bang-a-bang-a-bang-a-bang-a-bang.
She's one of the biggest stars in the world, bro.
Yeah.
Longevity, I think people need to respect, bro.
When you have a crazy run, bro, that's hard to be replicated or you can't do, people just need to respect.
She had a lot of great pins behind her, too, though.
And a great support system as well.
But you still got to do it, though.
There's a lot of people who say, I ain't knocking.
I'm just saying it's, niggas going to forget, bro.
Let me ask you.
I think Wayne got 20 bangers that's just his, not like remake songs.
No.
Just him?
Like no mixtape songs, like remakes.
Just original beats, Wayne, 20 plus.
20 bangers?
Because I know what he's saying.
What?
That's tough.
Wayne got 20 fire-ass song.
I'm saying, but not mixtape songs.
Now, like, no feeling is not that.
No feeling.
That's just ringing off the arena.
If you're going off the album by himself, you said no features.
No, no, not.
You got features, but I'm saying like 20 that's an original beat, not like him.
Oh, yeah, if you got features.
Okay, it's Fireman or a banger?
Hell yeah.
Fireman is a big song.
Fireman, a banger?
Yeah.
Listen, I'm saying.
Birdman Jr.
Oh, I'm not, nothing.
I love Wayne.
A million.
I was Fireman.
Yeah, he's a fireman.
I don't know this thing.
The only thing I didn't like was Lollipop.
And it's a banger, but I don't.
Yeah, the remix is crazy.
I don't like Lollipop, though.
I don't like that song.
I don't like that song to wrap together,
but growing up, we realized that song
it's not as far as you think it is.
It's a banger.
I like my daddy's a banger.
Shooter.
Skip, skip, skip, skip.
Yeah, skip, skip, skip, skip.
It's fire.
I'm on, that is that.
That's fire, bro.
That ain't his song.
But we said features, too.
I'm saying, you can say features,
but I'm just saying,
We know any call.
I'll respect.
No, DJ.
I walk around the club.
See, everybody.
So all his shit is more features, right?
Dr. Carter being on there.
Dr. Carter is a fire stone to me, though.
You mean, Vince Young, don't clash with the Titans.
Oh, DJ, all right.
This is the Carter.
Yeah.
The mom.
Man is fired, but I'll know if it's a banker.
Yeah.
It's not.
Yeah.
Tom, my hand.
See, I'm saying, it.
I said, I knew what it was going to.
I know what you mean
They don't know ball
They don't know ball
Three feet fired too
Because Sean not even on there
Yeah
Sean a banger
Yeah
He got 20 bankers
He got to respect it
Wayne Cala logar
Depending on what you
Boller up and I'm gonna drop it
It's gonna be piss a lot of people off
But
Because mixtape Wayne is the goat
Yeah
Yeah that's one
He got
And that was just a time period
He got 50 songs
That run this town
That mix tape that's the best
Mxtape song I ever heard
Really?
Do y'all hear what he say on that shit?
Is it better than show me what you got freestyle?
Yes, bro.
Ooh.
Ooh.
And it comes down to this recording.
Man.
Be LeBron James and Pete Jordan.
I'm disrespectful.
I'm disrespectful.
I won't range from my performance.
No, we ain't got Tony Banks.
But that run this town, bro?
No, it's special, bro.
It's special.
Yeah, I take it.
Yeah, I go super.
Man, I think my name.
Dog, I go super big.
Man, dog, I go super big.
Ran into a superwoman, turned to a super bitch.
Hit it with that super dick
She'd be coming super quick
Bro
I'm thinking about songs
I ain't fuck well
Not that I ain't supposed to think about
But Wayne got a shit like
B without
Fuck that shit
That's super quick
Now he was crazy
Around the game
Like a hooloooohing shit
Y'all niggas is crazy
There was a time here on Facebook
Where everybody was tagging their friends
Say we just hoop of click
No yeah was like
Yeah
Be without bass
I forget
That's not even on there
Oh that's a bagger too
But that's
That's a too
I can mark you and come home with on 44
That's the elite
Wayne's song that wasn't on that list.
See, that's why I can't look at list because it made me disrespect somebody.
Yeah, Mick St.
Wade is an anomalous.
Yeah, that's iconic.
But I'm saying he got songs that are just his.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I mean, he do.
I was saying, do he got 20 bangers.
Like, if he, somebody was like, he can't, I don't want Wayne to make it because I love
his set list when he performs, but it's not the songs that we would all consider
that.
But I feel like you could definitely make a fire list of 20.
If he was like, someone was like, yeah, I'm out of you, but you can't play no
mixtape stuff.
but I'm trying to figure out where he still went.
He'll play.
That's why.
Yeah, he'll play.
Wayne damn their gothic.
Oh, like Bill Gates' fire, though.
Yeah.
That song's fire.
That's fine.
Right.
It's fire, too.
Yeah, that's what I was.
He does.
I was just wondering.
Like, I'm not saying he don't because, like, I like, uh, what's this shit?
I like, he, boys, and, boys, and, because beat with that best of my favorite, Wayne.
Yeah.
All right, man, um, listen, I don't know how we got here, but T-Mack has been
all types of slander these last week and a half
this conversation about how he felt about if he was on the team
with Shaqouda got rings and everybody's saying,
brother, you didn't get out the first round.
Why are you talking to these conversations?
I seen Stack Jack getting a conversation.
My Sheper, a lot of people saying this.
But they said, no, instead of comparing him to Kobe in the situations,
we need to compare him more to Paul George.
And they put the accolades next to each other.
Is this a fair statement?
Because, you know, obviously with Team Mac was at his peak,
we know, injuries and stuff happened.
But he was definitely one of the best players in the league.
but they said, you know,
his better comparison for T-MEC would be Paul George.
Okay, I was singing Wainz on my head.
It was to nothing you saying.
It was abortion, right?
That's my shit.
That's on Carter 3, but, yeah, it's a skit.
That's Carter 4.
No, Carter 4, it is.
Yeah, that's all hard.
The belly of the beast.
But I'm thinking about it,
but that was my shit, my motherfucker.
Yeah, he's a wild boyfriend.
That's all right.
Free to Carter, Nick.
Everybody likes them for different reasons, man.
Yeah, that's definitely a suicide way.
That's a song for sure.
That's shit.
All right.
He'd be floated on that shit.
Back to, yeah, Team Mac is Paul George for sure.
Did.
And it's not, I don't think that's a disrespectful.
Yeah, low-key, Paul George probably had a better career in Team Mac.
A lot of people.
It's not no shade.
I mean, yeah, he was healthier.
And that's crazy because Paul George had one of the worst injuries in the NBA history.
He was healthier.
He was more durable than Team Mac.
And also, that's the biggest knocktap in the conversation.
It's just like, hey, you know, T-Mack, you was cold, my boy.
But we just can't act like you're not winning these rounds in the playoffs.
Don't matter.
Yeah.
And a lot of people saying, like, it has to account for something.
I think you're saying that.
T-MAC was cold.
Paul George took his team to the Eastern Conference Finals a couple years in a row.
That's a fact.
I guess Brown.
I guess Brian.
If Paul George would have Yalmi and Steve Fran,
whoever he played with, that was a good prayer it had been.
Yeah.
I just don't remember T-Mack having a moment in the playoffs.
I can remember Paul George having a moment in the playoffs.
I've never remembered.
I remember.
The only thing I ever heard about T-Mack in the playoffs is him saying this series is over and they lost.
Talk about the next series.
Yeah.
Bad sound bite for sure.
Yeah, and they lost.
That's the only thing I can really remember.
And that sucks.
That you gotta remember that.
But that was such a big vital moment.
Lou, they brought up that.
Like, man, Luis Scola got the Rockets out of the first round
and T-Mack didn't.
And I said, bell, shout to my boy, raised Ramon.
And I don't want you to ever disrespect T-Bek like that, but that is true.
It is true.
Shout to Louis Scola.
Wasn't it like him and Aaron Brooks?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aaron Brooks is cooking.
Yeah.
And I'm not, it's no Team Mac.
Hey Team Mac.
No.
But like, we were legit thinking about it.
I think his peak was better than Paul George, but I don't know.
Paul George during OKC, is that?
Is that better at 0-1 TMAC?
No.
He also had a better squad, too.
He did.
Team Mac squad was asked.
Yeah.
Team Mac.
It's comparable.
It's comparable.
We was both color.
It was both called.
I'm just saying, like, I mean, Paul George peak, it's not that much lower than.
No.
Team X speed.
No.
Because that one year,
okay, see,
Paul George was really killed.
That was after the injury.
That was after.
Mm-hmm.
I was top for him.
And I know stats,
I mean, are relative to the time,
but like what PG was doing,
bro, on that patient's team
that was real defensive-minded,
winning games under 90 points,
and he's getting 22, 23, bro.
Yeah.
That looked like 30 and 01.
No, for sure.
Nah.
Because it was rougher in 0-1.
The average 30 in 0-1.
But you had a,
I know they got, I know there was more of an ISO league
and they gave the ball to one person most of the game.
He had the ball, damn there the whole game.
I get it.
But it still was tough.
It was a slow-ass game.
Like them 2000s years.
These are 80-90 points.
Yeah, 2000s was bad.
I seen somebody talk about the old tens being bad.
And it wasn't the greatest, but those 2000s was, oh.
It was bad.
Kobe them dominated them.
Yeah.
A lot of them came up too.
something about those.
Like, people really undermine how good shot was,
especially that,
whooped out in the O'3 area.
That's that, bro, he was literally dominating shit.
It was like, it's not that crazy.
The T-Mack could have been on that team,
and they would have won.
Oh, they would have won.
Yeah.
If you had to kill O'Neil back in that time,
bro, they had seven bigs to guard.
Yeah, that's why I was like,
why y'all so mad that team-makers for saying that?
Yeah, if he had to kill O'Neill,
you know, I would have.
And I'm not, I mean, he wasn't that far off Kobe at that time.
It was a conversation at the time period.
It was a conversation.
It was crazy to say.
but it's crazy to say because
I think there's a lot of people playing with
T-Mac work ethic.
He was hurt.
I think people would be saying he don't
really work hard as Kobe.
Oh,
you had to work hard to be that cold at best.
Yeah,
I'm like,
bro,
ain't no way in hell yeah.
I think T-Back wasn't in the gym
grinding.
But that's that weird side
with the Kobe friends
and they just be,
but you don't know
how hard T-Mack work.
I hate that the most.
That's why I was
he had a micro fracture
because before it was even like,
and still to this day,
micro fracture can alter your career,
bro.
at micro fracture and I retired.
So him to come back and try to play.
Yeah.
No, well said, man.
We got to respect people, man.
I know we haven't used to basic conversations,
but a lot of people have been cold for a very long time period
and over-visual history is crazy.
But I hope T-Mack not offended that.
People say he's like equal to Paul George.
I hope he couldn't, he shouldn't be offended, right?
He going to step on shit about it.
I think what T-Mack is offended about is the people that say his name,
like, Oden-Pol-Nis.
He's like, bro, old-a-polling should not be saying my name.
Yeah.
Like, even with the Stackjackjack conversations,
he was just like, all right, stack of respect with, bro, like, chill, like.
Yeah, they shouldn't talk about team.
They're not on his level.
Like, when you're talking ball.
But, like, everybody.
You can have an opinion say you're not.
Holden by these in Stack.
And Stack can talk about TMag, bro.
And what light, though?
Like, that's his peers.
If he's better than whoever, or if he's not better than somebody, bro.
They can say that.
No, I know.
They can say that.
I thought you were talking about how he was talking about how he didn't work hard or something.
Oh, no. I don't think stack.
No, he wasn't on that.
He was just a voice of the Kobe fans.
You know, they'd be trolling us even when we're on the morning show.
Saying you, you wouldn't be.
He didn't have the Mamba mentality.
And I'm like, bro.
What he average 33?
Bro, he was a fucking demon out there, bro.
Yeah, let us.
He just won't work for them.
Yeah, I'm not going to speak.
I played on the team with him, but he was a shell of him and stuff at that time.
Yeah.
I can't speak of what his mentality was playing basketball.
I don't know what he did, but to average 30-something in the league,
even Stack Jack averaging 20 you was killing.
Yeah.
So if you was killing and you was a go-to-nick on the Bobcats and you killing,
and I'm telling you killing, I'm like, this nigga cold.
See, a nigga average 32?
Yeah.
You know he worked.
Like, you work.
You average 20.
And Stacks basically was just like, he's like, it's what if we don't get in Malice and the Palace, bro,
I'm a multi-time all-star.
Fact, fact.
Our careers just play out how they play out, basically.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I'm with that 100%.
I'm with him on that.
Like, I feel like if I didn't get drafted by the Hawks
and I got trapped by the Kings,
like I'll be a different player.
But it's the what-ifs, like you said.
That's why I don't really get into that.
But not to say that he didn't work hard and shit.
I don't know who said that or that you.
Nah, it wasn't stack or out of the players.
It was some of the work.
He didn't said a lot of crazy shit about Teaback, though.
That's why they be jollering on each other and shit.
I just told him, I just seen where he was like,
you're a loser or some loser book.
or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shout to my mom,
Sheperman.
Like you said,
gives me to
Redmond,
new cast,
E.T.
my guys on there
Braddon, hey,
what.
Shep was just like,
man, I used to fight
niggas over teambacks
and it's better
than Kobe.
He said to hear it,
you know what I'm saying?
That every P
conversation broke in my heart.
Like,
what you mean,
MVP is worth more
than winning a championship.
And that's something
of this kind of steer from as well.
I'm like,
bro,
people say MVP counts more than championship.
And they write to say that.
And why don't come up here,
and I fuck with Shump.
But you know, when you win a championship, when you win, you make it more valuable because you won.
So it validates your career a little more.
You know what I mean?
Like, shit, I won a championship.
So it's like, yeah, nigga, like, yeah, I was the club man or the 10th man, six man, whatever you was, starter.
But you win a club is special.
And I'm not saying they don't mean anything.
But, nigga, on my life, they're saying it on the show.
But in real life, Eamon could be the MVP of the league or win a how.
hard it was for them to sacrifice just even being a role player.
Yeah, Evan.
And they say, hey, we're about to send you to Portland or whoever.
Here's the ball.
Here the ball.
And you win MVP and you get to the playoffs and you make a run, but y'all lose.
I swear to God, you ain't going home and be like, you want to win a chip.
But when your career over, you can play at one point in time, I was the best player in the NBA.
Ema said he came into the league selfish.
He just had to adapt, you know what I mean?
And the NBA will make you appreciate shit like that when you have to play a role.
You'll start, man, we win a championship.
I'm going to be paid more money because I'm going to be valuable
and I'm going to bring something to the table.
But when you, that guy?
Yes, sir.
It's different.
Just even being one of the guys on the Hawks team,
I'm like, shit, just making the All-Star team.
I'm like, shit.
That's a big feat.
Yeah, I'm like, yeah.
It's lit.
You know what I mean?
For sure.
I couldn't imagine winning MVP.
Like, yeah, bro.
Man, what?
That's how you through the moment.
You're in a whole different realm
It's not shit you can say to me, bro.
I'm a MVP, bro.
I'm a Hall of Famer.
You're in that conversation.
Yes.
You could possibly be a Hall of Fame or you're an MVP.
Yeah, and Team Mac Hall of Fame.
You know what I mean?
I don't like how people are trying to say to Paul Drew's like
Paul George should be in a Hall of Fame.
Paul George is going to be in a basketball Hall of Fame.
I'm going to be in a Hall of Fame.
But like you will rather, me personally, I don't know what everybody else, you know,
but I just feel like when you win championships and you've been part of winning.
And I'm not even acting like I was doing something in the championship.
And I'm not.
I just feel like.
like you use it because, and you can go back in that town and do whatever you want.
You use it because it validates your career a little more.
Hell yeah.
Like when they be like he a one-time all-star and a champion, it's like, it validated a little more.
So when you talk about any guy who wants a championship and he's going to say a champion when you talk about him.
But nigga, fuck that.
They've been like, yeah, he was a one-time all-star and a league MVP hobby in this big.
What?
Talk to Dussie the boys.
What?
And you were letting me in that city.
wherever you won that MVP at, you're going to be a legend.
The girl is a legend in Chicago.
Retired.
Who else is one of MVP?
Russ, a legend at OKC.
Facts.
Charles Barkley.
Legend.
Come on, bro.
He can go do whatever he want.
You don't get too many EVPs nowhere and there ain't a love going back, bro.
Yeah, you're a legend, whatever.
I'm always sitting this build of air.
Like, even with your own B, I know they be ragging on him, bro.
I got the MVP in Philly, bro.
Come on, bro.
Oh, yeah, you stay.
You have to respect.
Yeah, yo, your shit going in the Raptors, bro.
Yeah, that's why I be feeling Steve Nass, bro.
They lucky Steve Nash got the person out he do.
Boy, y'all would not be put someone on my name.
But I have two MVP.
Bro, he's in the rafters, bro.
Yeah, it is.
He's in the rafters, bro.
He's not a lot for Steve-old.
You know, and, man, I'll be popping shit.
I'd be talking crazy.
And he just go on about this, like, he don't really care.
Because it don't matter, bro.
See, Joker, he said, hey, y'all.
I love y'all.
Will y'all?
You all, I'll check pictures with me.
Yeah, I'm bad.
I'm just trying to shoot.
I just looking at this thing.
Hey, that shit annoying now.
Like, Joker got the MVP.
He called.
Superkey Carl got the AVP in there.
And when is the ultimate goal when you're the guy?
Yeah.
Like for most of the people, and I'm not saying we don't play basketball to win.
But, and we do, we play the games to win.
But for most role players, it's to be on a good team and get paid.
Yes.
Like, I guarantee you can go ask any of the guys on that show.
All right, would you rather win a championship?
Or would you rather make $25 million a year?
year. But you only going to make $3 million a year if you win the championship.
Everybody are going to say $25 million a year. You could tell me 18.
So that's the question you should ask.
Would you rather make $3 million and win a championship or if you make $25 million in?
Y'all, you know, you're just a good player.
Y'all good. You're an all-star, but you don't get to win the shit.
Second round bounce.
That's going to be a challenging question on camera.
I want people to have that.
I want the third question off camera. We ain't got to record it. I want the real question.
Oh, you know what you're going to get.
Yeah.
Diggas ain't going to say the real on camera.
though.
They line down.
I'm like real.
Niggie.
Give me that $25 million every day
of the week.
Yeah.
But I want to be the star
and I want $25 million every day.
And now that's a low number.
They make $70 million now.
I want to be Devin Booker.
Well, if you compare $25 million and $3 million,
yeah.
I'm just saying people.
Even if it's $10 and 20.
I'm just saying what I made,
when I made won a championship because
I was at $3.5.
Oh, I hear you.
Yeah.
We won the chip.
If you go to
Winsomewerey
205 that last
little st.
TIG would have went
to Lend him for real
What?
Okay
What?
What?
I got you.
That's what I'm just saying
Like
It's not you
Right
Boy don't mean that
All right
Let's say you made
8 million
Let's say you just
Make an 8
and you want a championship
Bro
And they're offering you
$28 30
They offer you 30 million
To go beat a guy
In Sacramento
8 million to play
On the Cavs
and win a championship
I'm good
It's gone
Yeah, bro.
All the niggas good is gone.
I'm Elroy.
Man, got my money.
I was gone.
Oh.
Hey, you hear me.
I was gone.
That's the question.
They should be asking not if I'm going to be MVP,
because when you, when you MVP, you know what you get?
A max deal.
Yeah, it don't go backwards.
Yeah.
When you're on MVP, you on a max deal.
You don't happen.
I know there's different sports, but Kenneth Walker just wanted a Super Bowl MVP.
Yeah.
He changed teams.
Yeah.
Come on, bro.
They don't happen to NBA, bro.
No, fair.
No, for sure, man.
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