Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Draymond Green on if Warriors are BEST team EVER, Steph becoming a GOAT

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Jeff Teague and the Club 520 guys are joined by Draymond Green to talk about all things NBA and Golden State Warriors. Draymond tells stories about getting recruited to Michigan State, winning four NB...A championships with Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, playing alongside Kevin Durant, Klay dropping 60 in a game, and why the Warriors had the BEST team in NBA history. 00:00 - Introduction02:10 - Draymond AAU days03:50 - Why Draymond went to Michigan State07:25 - Draymond Green’s draft process10:00 - Best 2nd round picks all time12:15 - Draymond Paul Pierce story14:20 - Draymond Green best trash talkers19:10 - How Draymond changed basketball24:20 - Craziest game Draymond has played in26:30 - Draymond’s favorite championship team28:55 - When Klay dropped 6030:40 - Warriors had BEST team ever #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:04 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sarah Spain, host of Good Game with Sarah Spain
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Starting point is 00:02:38 Dre, I know you done been a lot of places. You know, you grew up in the Midwest, but you see, have you ever seen the... Oh, he ain't even got the uniform on today. Normally, he's going to show you. Have you ever seen that before in your life? I see you got the Tiffany's, have you ever seen the, oh, he ain't even got the uniform on today. Normally, he gonna show you. Have you ever seen that before in your life? I see you got the Tiffany's on. You ever seen the black with the white laces? Nah,
Starting point is 00:02:50 that's crazy. I ain't never seen that. They coming out soon, bro. We still in the works with Nike, but yeah, they coming, get your 15.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. I got you, bro. I'm cool. I'm cool. I don't really want them. They come with a pistol and a box cutter. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:07 That's a package. They go right with your fit, bro. The strings, you feel me? That's the accent. They go with the whole narrative. It all works out at the end of the day. Everybody's going to be first to get a look at you robbing these.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That could be your farewell tour. Nah, they don't love you like that. Still to my right, my dog, Young Nacho, Young Tig, how you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm good, bro. We got a legend in the building, bro. Midwest. Midwest legend. Come on, man. Champion. I appreciate it. One of the realest, man.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm so glad to have you. I'm going to let you do your thing. Hey, man, you already said it. You know what it is? Volume game. We got a it. One of the realest, man. I'm so glad to have you. I'm going to let you do your thing. Hey, man, you already said it. You know what it is, volume game. We got a champ, Hall of Famer in the building. Podcast is drawing that out the gate. Draymond Green, appreciate you sliding the 520, big dog. I appreciate y'all having me, man.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm a big fan of the show. I be watching. What y'all bring to the podcast space, bro, is absolutely incredible. So thank y'all for having me on. Jeff, I don't know how the fuck you remember all them stories, but it's crazy. I appreciate it, bro, is absolutely incredible. So thank y'all for having me on. Jeff, I don't know how the fuck you remember all them stories, but it's crazy. I appreciate it, bro. You was one of the first people to really shout us out early.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We appreciate it. That was love, bro. We really appreciated that, bro. No doubt, man. I love what y'all are doing. It's like, it's organic, you know? And I think the thing about the podcast space is, like, everybody, you got to find your lane and your niche in it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Because it's room for everybody. And I think the lane that y'all created, like, not found, but created, the lane that y'all created is special, man. I appreciate that, bro. That's love, man. Obviously, man, we can talk about so many things, but, you know, we a real hoops pod. We got to talk about before you got to Michigan State, the AAU days, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Be him. My man up here, he's a big AAU basketball. That's his thing right here. World War I was, Julian. See the jacket? Yeah. My Rashad swag. Shout out to Just Don and them.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Mitchell and Nancy. Hey, boys. What's up? But now, man, Hooper Days High School, man, who was that dude in your area outside of What's up? But now, man, Hooper Day's high school, man. Who was that dude in your area outside of you growing up? Oh, man. Newpy Crater. We had Newpy Crater from Flint.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He went to Flint Southwestern. We was the same grade. Newp was top 15, top 20 point guard. And I feel like Newp was the last true point guard like of our era where he was just dishing. And he was great at it, you know, like getting people involved. And it was love.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And then you kind of seen him get to college. And all of a sudden they're like, yo, he got to score more. He got to do this. But I'm like, no, y'all been praising this and him being a true point guard. And you kind of started to see a change in them. But Noop was that dude in Michigan.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like, for sure. Like, it wasn't me. It was Noopy. And then it was this little white dude named Brad Redford who played as Xavier. Yeah. He was shooting the lights out. It was those two, like, in my high school class that was doing it. Cool.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Nah, I know him, he can shoot like a mug. But, I love, I love how you play. And it's all geared towards like being at Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like, we had some kids from here. Andy went to Michigan State, Gary Harris. We had Xavier Booker who's there now. Why Michigan State though? I know,
Starting point is 00:06:23 I could tell why you went, but I'm like, I try to ask them the same question, like why they pick Michigan State. What do Izzo do to make you get there? Also Aaron Henry. Oh yeah, Ben Davis. Shout out to the West Side. That's my little brother too. And y'all had Aaron Harris too. Yes sir. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:38 A lot of Nat boys, man. I think for me, number one, Michigan State was always my dream school. Man, you know, I State was always my dream school. Okay. You know, I grew up watching Mateen Cleese, Moe P., Dave from Flint, I'm 20 minutes away in Saginaw. Then Jason Richardson, who is from Saginaw. And so growing up, it was always Michigan State for me. Like, that was the gold standard, where you wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Now, I committed to Michigan State when I was like a sophomore, but they didn't really accept my commitment. It was like I was committed. It was like I was in a bad relationship. Like I was committed. And they weren't committed to me, but I was committed to them. Twins. I've been there.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Shout out to Purdue. Shout out to Purdue. For that Drake fitness. I'm committed to them. And that Drake Finnair. I'm committed to them. And they ain't really honoring. So my junior year, I ended up taking an unofficial visit to Kentucky. My high school coach played with Tubby when Tubby coached at Tulsa. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And I took an unofficial visit to Kentucky. And I ended up committing to Kentucky. Damn. Damn. And they were pissed. But I'm like, y'all ain't honoring my commitment like I'm going to Kentucky. And Tubby ended up leaving. I ended up committing to Kentucky. Damn, damn. And they were pissed. But I'm like, y'all ain't honoring my commitment like I'm going to Kentucky. And Tubby ended up leaving. I ended up going there.
Starting point is 00:07:49 But long story short, why I picked Michigan State was because Tom Izzo winning. He was putting out pros. When I was coming, it was like seven first-round picks, nine first-round picks or something like that in seven years. Yeah. And then, this probably won't go over well with people, but I went to Michigan. I was going to go to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And, like, say I announce, say today is Thursday. I announce, I mean, today's Friday. I announce that next Thursday I'm having a press conference and I'm deciding my school. I was going to Michigan. Manny Harris was there. And so they had Manny start calling me. I was talking to Manny, and Manny, like,
Starting point is 00:08:35 Dre, tell me something good. And I'm like, just chill. It's cool. Like, it's good. And they're like, you need to come down one more time. The coaching staff now blowing my phone up. Come down one more time. Come down one more time. I'm like, I'm good, man. I'm all right. Like, it's cool. come down one more time. They're coaching staff now blowing my phone up. Come down one more time. Come down one more time.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm like, I'm good, man. I'm all right. Like, it's cool. Come down one more time. So finally, I go down on Monday. My mom takes me down. We play open gym. They show me the dorms we was going to live in, which I'm a dummy.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I didn't even see the dorms I was going to commit there. And Manny wasn't at that open gym. He had class. But all the other players was there. And I was busting their ass. Shout out to Steele Douglas. Yeah. And I was talking crazy to them boys. And nobody said a word. And I was like, bro, I go to Michigan State and I'm talking crazy to them and we all about to fight. Out the gate. That's home for me.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's it. That's it for me. Like, this is a family, and everybody's standing on business here. Ain't none of that, like, soft. I don't think I would have made it at Michigan. They a little softer. A little more preppy. A little bit more preppy.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They going to love that one. Michigan State is definitely grit, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. So that was it for me. That's crazy. Then obviously, you know what I'm saying, you have a crazy career. Michigan State, time to clear.
Starting point is 00:09:53 How was your draft process? Awful. I did 21 workouts. God damn. I had a guarantee from Indiana that they was going to pick me if I was still on the board. And I was here doing my second workout the day before the draft, and I woke up that morning and Larry Bird resigned.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Came across the screen. He was light-skinned. We would have got you. Y'all drafted Miles Plumlee. Not even Mason. Y'all drafted Miles. I remember. Oh, he don't know everybody. Yeah, y'all drafted Miles Plumlee. Not even Mason. Y'all drafted Miles. I remember. Oh, he know everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah, y'all drafted Miles Plumlee. I had a guarantee from Atlanta they was going to pick me. Come on. Yeah, we filled with the bag. Rick Sun stepped down, like, or got moved over the week of the draft. I had a guarantee from Memphis that they was going to pick me. Chris Wallace got let go the week of the draft. God damn guarantee from Memphis that they was gonna pick me Chris Wallace got let go the week of the draft god damn
Starting point is 00:10:48 that's a bad look and I had a and I had a promise which it's been publicly said I had a promise from Chicago shout out to Moog
Starting point is 00:10:57 and they actually drafted your brother shout out to Moog they drafted your brother shout out to my dog you know how he got drafted you remember Omar uh Ashik whatever his name yeah Omer Ashik yeah Shout out to my brother. They drafted your brother. Shout out to my dog. You know how he got drafted?
Starting point is 00:11:06 You remember Omar Ashik? Whatever his name is. Omar Ashik. Yeah, Omar Ashik. We had the same agent. Okay. And they wanted him to resign. And they was like,
Starting point is 00:11:15 I already got to take my brother in that draft spot. So he resigned. And he ended up going to Houston anyway. He signed that poison pill that was like three for 35. Yeah. And Jeremy Lin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, they had already picked my brother, so I knew my brother wasn't going to play in Chicago. They was pissed. I was like, he ain't about to get no clock. Damn. So that was, and needless to say, all those people passed me up, and I ended up falling in 35. And it was like, it was the most bittersweet thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It's like I just got drafted. Y'all fucked over me. I'm a second round pick. And so that was, I mean, I hated the draft process. You know what's crazy now? We talk about it all the time. Boys, Dan Merrill would rather be, if you're not going lottery, Dan would rather be second round now because you get to your bread faster.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That's a fact. That's a fact. I made money before anybody else in my class, man. That's a fact. That's a gift. Real money. Shout out to Wes Matthews. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Wes did that the year. Man, Pioneer. That was my draft, bro. Yeah. I'm looking like, damn, what the fuck? He making $7 million a year? I only get $2,000 a month to spend on myself. I did some shit.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Well, yo, let's do this real quick. Top three second round picks of all time. Him, Gil. We can all go crazy. Just throw some names up there, bro. Him, Gil. Manu. And Manu, probably.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Joker. Joker. Ooh, yeah. Yeah, Joker. I'm sorry. That's what I was about to say. I had to say slow down, y'all. Nah, bro, you got four rings, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You can say that. For sure, bro. But damn, Manu, Joker. Joker. I can stand in that conversation for sure, bro. But damn, my new Joker. I forgot my new Joker. Gil up there. Yeah, Gil up there. I can move myself out of that. But your career is probably better than Gil's, though.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah, the career for sure. Yeah, for sure, my career is. But Gil's talent is undeniable. That's why we do pure hoop shit. Yeah, pure hoop shit. Gil is one of my favorite players. I wore zero because of him. Yeah, that was why we do pure hoop shit. Yeah, pure hoop shit. Gil is one of my favorite players. I wore a zero because of him. Ah.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, that was why I wore a zero. Okay. It was a means, bro. Yeah. See, now. It ain't Drew Gooden. See, now, motherfuckers. I said I like Drew Gil, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:20 This nigga be going back on his fucking word. Fucking liar. And you hear these weird ass YouTubers talk about say he's always trying to go against T man fuck T
Starting point is 00:13:30 liar talking about Drew Gooden was my idol I never said Drew Gooden was my idol I said I liked
Starting point is 00:13:36 Drew Gooden bro when he was in college man let's pause for the March Madness game fuck out of here love
Starting point is 00:13:42 alright I'm on your ass today folks we on that we got company bro nah I'm on your ass today, folks. We on that. We got company, bro. Nah, I'm sorry, bro. Dre family, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's cool. Nah, you know what I liked about him, though? He talked shit from day one. Remember one day we was in the game? Me and him talking shit on the bench. I'm trying to talk shit. He talking shit to me. He on the court.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He look at me like, shut your ugly ass up, motherfucker. I'm like, get your money up. He said at me like, shut your ugly ass up, motherfucker. I was like, get your money up. He said, what? You got money? Get your shit straight. I said,
Starting point is 00:14:09 damn. I said, damn. I looked at him. I couldn't say that. He ran down the court. I tried to go to the end of the bitch. He's like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 I ain't talking to you. I ain't talking to you. I told you, this nigga dangerous. Then he got paid. I said, oh, I got to eat that word.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Damn, he got more money than me. Shout out to you, bro. You been that. That's why when I see it on the court, I'm like, oh, I got to eat that word. Damn, he got more money than me. Shout out to you, bro. You been that. That's why when I see it on the court, I'm like, no, that's him, bro. That ain't before he got money championships. That been him. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:19:20 Because we clipped it up. My dude, Luis, clipped it up. When the fan threw the, he threw the headband and crowd. The dude caught it and threw it back in. The funniest shit. That is your fucking fault, dude. That is your fault, bro. That is your fault, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Man, when I said that, though, number one, I didn't know everybody was here. No, because he pissed me off, man. Like, at that time, you know, he had just came over to the Clippers. And we had a thing with them. time, you know, he had just came over to the Clippers. And we had a thing with them. Like, you know, it was B. And so he come over and he on the bench and he like, cook him, BG. Talking to Blaine. He too little,
Starting point is 00:19:54 BG. And that's my biggest pet peeve. Don't fucking call me too little. Like, my height is my height. There's what... And so, you know, he's talking back, like, and we come down and so you know he's talking back like and we come down and so Blake
Starting point is 00:20:07 catches on mid post he face up and he shot fake me and I fucking jump for it and like why am I jumping for Blake Griffin
Starting point is 00:20:13 and and so it really pissed me off cause I'm like now you got me off my square you got me jumping out of Blake Griffin pump fake and I'm just like
Starting point is 00:20:22 bro shut up like you ain't like that like you chasing up. Like, you ain't like that. Like, you chasing this farewell tour, and you ain't like that. And, you know, the reality is you don't get a nickname like the truth if you're not nice. So Paul Pierce is nice. However, with Kobe passing away, that statement, it did not age like spoiled milk.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Because we saw the magnitude of cold once he passed. The world stopped. Literally. And so, you know, when you look back on that statement, it was the truth. Nah, you speak the gospel. Yeah, we didn't say he was lying.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It was funnier than the motherfucker. He crazy as hell, man. I was like, damn, when he was lying. It was funnier than a motherfucker. He crazy as hell, man. I was like, damn, when he said it, I was like, that nigga crazy. Imagine you giving a finish. Hey, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:12 You walk through the tunnel and they be like, nah, that's crazy. And for him to catch it, it was going to somebody else. He was like, nah, get this shit out of here. That's why I said,
Starting point is 00:21:22 nah, it's up for Draymond. Draymond's an asshole. Who else up there be talking shit in the NBA, though, bro? Who you got? Man, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:33 KD used to talk a lot. He don't talk no more. It seems like he used to talk crazy to people, though. Like, real crazy to people. I can definitely see that.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Eric, what about A.E.? Pat Bell ain't talk more than anybody, by the way. And he's so good, so there's not much you can say.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I mean, I'm going to go there with you. Like, I'm going to talk nonstop. But he, he don't,
Starting point is 00:21:58 he talk to everybody and he that good. So there's not much you can really do or say. But he, he know he good. so it's not much you can really do or say but he he know he good and that's dangerous yeah and he carrying that that team that's a fact which is nuts because they got some guys that have lost a lot on that team and he's carrying them like trust me you know i was over there yeah i was over there shout Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, shout out to them, man. He carrying them like,
Starting point is 00:22:25 like they some winners. Yeah. And that's, that's a special gift, man. Yeah. I like it. He don't back down, but. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:22:34 When you talking trash, to me, I like, if I talk shit, like I'm talking shit to get myself going. In a way, I feel like you do that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Like, because I hear you sometimes just be like, fuck out of here. I'm like, bro, don't say nothing back to him. Just keep playing, bro. you do that, like, because I hear you sometimes just be like, fuck out of here. I'm like, bro, don't say nothing back to him. Just keep playing, bro. And people used to like, Cat, when we used to play Cat, you would say like, that shit's soft. And I used to be like, Cat, just hoop, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He going to take you out your game, just hoop. And he wouldn't say nothing. He'd be like, I'd be like, don't say shit. Don't say nothing to him. But you do that shit to get yourself motivated, to get yourself going. I don't think people know that. I used to talk shit a lot just to get myself going. Nowadays, ironically, I don't.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I only talk when somebody say something now. It may not seem that way these days, but I really only talk when somebody say something to me now. I'd be out there like man I didn't I didn't think I'd miss like 24 games I got suspended this year the most games
Starting point is 00:23:30 I've ever been suspended and I think I smile more on the court than I ever have I be out there laughing with niggas but I used to bark up that tree
Starting point is 00:23:40 but yeah man I used to talk a lot just to get myself going because that's how I grew up. You know what I'm saying? Like, we grew up on the court. If you ain't talking, like, you might as well
Starting point is 00:23:51 not even be hooping. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I have to talk. But now, I think I've learned to not have to do that, like, to get myself going. And I think that's just growing with age and maturing.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But once somebody go there, I don with age and maturing. But, once somebody go there, I don't know how to stop. Oh, we know. Your mixtape this year been crazy. The one with Buddy from the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Bando. I said, bro, I said, I said bro you're having too much fun bro get the fuck out of here but check this out though answer this question for me
Starting point is 00:24:30 I got a question for y'all every time I do something y'all start doing this what does that say about you as a man he trying to get you fine that's what we like
Starting point is 00:24:42 that's corny to me and so I have a hard time respecting that. Like every time I do something, the first thing you do is jump up like, yo, review him, review him. Like, bro, I got kids. Like why you trying to get them to take more money from me? I think that's corny. And so for me, I just can't, like I can't respect that.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I always say like that's saying more about you than that's saying about me. And so I just can't respect everybody like I always say, like, that's saying more about you than that's saying about me. Yeah. And so I just can't respect everybody, like, hopping up. Like, yo, you need to review him. Like, bro, I filed him. Like, relax. Like, it's all right. So I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm losing more and more respect for these guys in the league. The niggas be knowing what you up against, too. They already nitpicking on you. Yeah. Trying to, you know, take money away from you. So that makes sense. That shit was just funny, bro. Your reaction. I from me, so that makes sense. That shit was just funny, bro. Your reaction.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I wouldn't expect you to do this. That shit was funny. I didn't want you to get fined or none of that shit, but I'm like, bro, he's a fucking clown, bro. Look at this nigga out here, man. He enjoying this shit too fucking much, bro. That's what I'm saying, because like the other day when y'all played the clips, I said, bro, clown.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Bro having fun, bro. Bro, so why was the camera on me in that moment, man? Like, let me be. The camera was going to be I said, bro, we're all having fun, bro. Bro, also, why was the camera on me in that moment, man? Let me be. The camera was going to be on you, bro. You know what time it is. Come on. Let me be.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I wasn't even in the scuffle. No, you earned this, bro. You earned the ISO. ISO came all game, bro. ISO Dre for sure. Oh, man. We went back to Memphis. My first game back.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They review a file. Camera come in my face. From this angle, I threw the towel on this camera. I grabbed another towel, camera came on this angle, I threw the towel.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They like, yo, you gonna get fined. I'm like, if they fine me for getting the camera on my face, then you know what, man? It's just here.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's what it is, bro. Nah, shit. I know we don't got a lot of time, but before we get out of here, I wanted to give you your flowers because you really changed the way basketball is played. When I first came in the league, we had two bigs. We had a big power four and a big center. We had Zaza and Al.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We had Josh Smith and Al. And then you came in the game with the Warriors, and you 6'7, 6-8 on your best day, whatever you want to say. You getting the ball, pushing the break, throwing passes. You really a point forward. You know, you got Clay and Steph. They playing a 2-3, basically running
Starting point is 00:26:56 the win. And y'all changed the game. And I think a lot of people like a Grant Williams, all these guys should be like paying homage to you because shit, you really fucked up the NBA because it it was easy to do a one four pick and roll one five pick and roll the big sitting back i get the shooter i get to make a little pocket pass and you came and you switching and i'm like shit and then when you switch you like don't help i got him don't help i'm like ah he got me fucked up
Starting point is 00:27:21 he was just as fast as you he moved just as good he told me fucked up. I'm like, and you really couldn't get by? He was just as fast as you. He moved just as good. He taller than me. He blocked shots. I was like, damn, he fucking up the game. And then all of a sudden, y'all just start running the league, bro. That's all because of you. Clay and Steph, they are who they are, but you played a huge role in that, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I appreciate that, bro. You know, it's an interesting thing for me because I only really get that love from like hoopers. You know what I'm saying? Like people who really appreciate, know the game. And at times, like we all look for a little validation. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you got to have confidence and know what you bring and believe in yourself. But at the end of the day, like as a human being, we all like some type of admiration.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You know, and that's not really what comes with the job for me. You know what I'm saying? It's like you screen, you pass, you play defense, and it's never really viewed that way except for from guys who really know the game and hoopers. And so, man, I appreciate that because it's been a lot of times, bro, where it's like, I don't even want to do this shit no more. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Because it's almost as if you've fallen on deaf ears. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but you don't necessarily get the credit for it. Like, even if I look at, like, people like, yo, you made a bunch of money. And I'm like, I have, and I'm very appreciative of the money I made. But, like, I've never signed a max contract. Like, coming off of championships or whatever, like, I've never signed a max contract.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Nowhere near. Like, right now, my max was $150 million more than what I got. You know what I'm saying? And so, but to feel that love from hoopers, you know what I'm saying? Like yourself, guys who I respect. No, I don't respect everybody that play basketball. Just because you play basketball, you don't gain my respect. Like, that ain't the benchmark for me you playing the nba but like guys that i respect that's ultimately that's what
Starting point is 00:29:31 kind of make you want to keep going you know i'm saying like just knowing that you get that appreciation from the real ones that know so i definitely appreciate they should know like when you got suspended that game in the finals, that turned the whole finals around. Like, you was the most important player on that team, like, during that stage, because you really run everything. Like, if you play against them, you know, like, all right, Draymond get the ball, he going to push that shit. You got to close out the step in them.
Starting point is 00:29:58 They catch it on the run, it's over with. Draymond get downhill, he going to make a pass, he going to skip his gun. Like, everything was like, all right, fuck. Keep this motherfucker. Hey, you got to damn near guard him. He was like Rondo. For the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:30:10 He's like, you damn near got to guard him. Don't let him sit back and make plays and just pass open. I'm like, yeah, this motherfucker really special. That's when I started like, yo, we need Paul Millsap. I'm like, we need somebody that can do the same shit. We wasn't good. Y'all know we're. But I'm like, we need some shit like that. same shit. We wasn't good at y'all nowhere, but I'm like, we need some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And then the whole NBA trying to do it now. It was fun during that run where y'all was, I mean, you had Brian, obviously, but as a team, y'all was dominating these. We was in the West, and it was kind of like we were playing similar styles. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Clint. You coming off, making the reads. You got what I'm saying? Shout out to Quinn. You coming off, making the reads. You got Kyle Corver
Starting point is 00:30:46 flying off. You got, so y'all have Baze for a minute. Yeah. Damari Carroll. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:30:53 Al, and y'all was really putting it together. And I thought, it's just unfortunate y'all, like, Brown's an easy.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It's over with. It's just unfortunate. When Brown wanna pick you apart, it's over with. Yeah. Cause he just walked the game down. Like, and he'll make? It's just unfortunate. When Brian want to pick you apart, it's over with. Yeah, because he just walked the game down. And he'll make every play. He going to run and transition if they got a layup.
Starting point is 00:31:13 If they don't, he going to stop. And he going to get everything he want, every play. And that's tough, man. It's tough to beat. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.
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Starting point is 00:35:38 most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And he said with you, bro, you are the intricate part of a dynasty. I think people don't understand. You are an intricate part of a dynasty. You are the reason why everybody's able to play the way that they are. Like, how is that to, like, obviously you get that love, but, like, to be a part of so many historic situations,
Starting point is 00:36:12 like your team is historic, you've been a part of historic battles. What's the craziest game you played in? Man, the craziest game I played in. Yeah. The game I played in... The craziest game I played in was game six in 2016, Oklahoma City. Oh, yeah. And we was down 15 in the third quarter, and Klay went apeshit because we had no business winning that game. Like, it was over.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They was going to the finals. And that was that. And to see, like, we got every stop we needed to get. We made every play we needed to make. And, you know, OKC was a tough place to play. That must be rock. Like, they back good now. It's tough again.
Starting point is 00:37:05 But when K and Russ, that was a tough place to play. That must be rock. Like, it's still, like, they back good now. It's tough again, but when K and Russ, that was a tough place to play. And everything was against us. We down, we was down three to one.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But now at this point, we down three to two. And it's, we down 15 in the third quarter. KD and Russ gonna score the ball. He does.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Absolutely. And for us to come back from that that was like the one cause it's 2016 like I ended up getting suspended in the finals if I did not think we'd go on and win the finals as well but that's neither here nor there
Starting point is 00:37:38 but that was after the first championship everybody was still questioning it was like oh such and such was hurt that's why they won, Kyrie was hurt and such was hurt, that's why they won. Kyrie was hurt. Kevin Lowe was hurt, that's why they won. And that game was kind of like that thing, I think, that really sparked us going forward because it was like,
Starting point is 00:37:58 oh, we can come back from anything now. You know, like, we can come back from now. We can do anything. And like I said, we lost after I got suspended, but that was, I think that game was like really the thing that set us on that path that we've been on. What's your favorite championship year? 2022.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Because 2015, which was the first one. Child to Harrison Barnes HB boys forget we facts HB was very integral in that
Starting point is 00:38:31 boys forget absolutely facts we'll go ahead 2015 we didn't really know what we was doing you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:38:38 like you just chasing it like don't really know and so at that time I always say like um irrational confidence that's essentially what we had at that time, I always say like, um, irrational confidence.
Starting point is 00:38:47 That's essentially what we had at that time. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just out there like, we're going to go in. We think so. And, and we won.
Starting point is 00:38:56 2017, KD comes and Christmas day, we were still trying to figure out, like, who getting the ball. And after we got, we lost to Cleveland. Elite game. Yeah. And after that game, K told Steph, like, don't worry about me. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I'll find mine. Be Steph. And from that point on, we wrote, it was just a matter of time to get to the date that we were winning the championship. Yeah, y'all was cheating, bro. 2018, just a matter of time, a date we're going to win the championship. 2022 wasn't really a championship team. Like, are the championship teams that I've been on. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:41 It wasn't really a championship team. And I'll tell you, like, after every series, me and Steph would be walking to do an interview after we won a series. And we'd walk and laugh. And we'd laugh like, yo, how? How are we winning, like, these series right now? And we'd literally laugh like, this is funny. But that's also when Steph took that next step of like, no, I'm really one of them goats.
Starting point is 00:40:10 For sure. And he carried us. But that was the toughest one. We weren't favored. Like, everybody was calling us too small. Boston, they too athletic. They too big. We didn't stand a chance.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And we went and made it happen. So that one was my favorite one. And then also, you know, I told KD, I'm going to win when you leave here. Out the gate. You did that shit. I did that. So that one was the most fulfilling for me. I got to ask you a random
Starting point is 00:40:39 question. We talked about Klay going crazy game six. What was more crazy, that or what he did to my Pacers? Ooh-wee. Well, he dropped a majority on him. He ain't dropped that shit on me. I told you who was going. That nigga wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Look at him. Tross and White go crazy. Paul Gould. Glenn Robinson. That thing on the stand there. It wasn't me, bro. I had Steph. Steph might have had 30 that game.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I don't give a fuck. He ain't had 60. That shit. The 60 was crazy. That was crazy. Didn't get it. Yeah, 60. The 60 was crazy. That was crazy. Didn't dribble. But, you know, Klay also kind of, like, there was added things to that. Him and PG both same year from Cali, Southern California.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And then Monte and Klay. You know, Monte was there, Klay coming in. Didn't necessarily feel like he embraced him his rookie year so it was an added sense of I wanna
Starting point is 00:41:32 I wanna destroy these dudes and man I was on the court like we was going to the locker room we
Starting point is 00:41:38 alright it's when you go to Golden State you play at Oracle even in the new arena you know you not about to win. Like, at these moments, no,
Starting point is 00:41:46 for real, bro, you be like, all right, we got to keep it close because if they go crazy in the first quarter, it's over.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Fans going to start going crazy. They're going to start running around on the bench, throwing towels and shit. So the first quarter, we was down like 12. I was like, this shit over.
Starting point is 00:41:59 He started his shit. I was like, oh, it's over. I see them start throwing towels, Steph running down the sidelines. I said, oh, they clowning us.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I'm about to be on TV all night. Then they threw a lob to KD. They tipped the ball. I'm running back to chase it down. Steph just threw it behind. You just see me in the camera like. Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You're going to see it, bro. It was crazy, bro. They team was too good. We used to be like, they cheating. Y'all was worse than the Heat, bro. Yeah, it was. Oh, I mean, I think that was the greatest team of all time. In my opinion.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Like, who over it? I ain't tell me people don't smoke with y'all. Nah. Man, hold the fuck on. Who? We'd love to know. Let me think. I don't get another question.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Y'all and that O1 Lakers team would be real. I was like, yeah, that would be. My only thing with the 0-1 Lakers team, I think we had a better team overall. For sure. But, like, we had nobody that could guard Shaq. Yeah, but they probably got the nod. Y'all there, though. Talent on the paper. Paper crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:04 On paper, it's not. Paper warriors, y'all there, though. Talent on the paper. Paper crazy. On paper, it's not. Paper warriors, y'all silly. Yeah. But with the Diesel and Coaster, y'all had a run. Only thing about Diesel. Who the fuck is guarding Shaq? Loom Loom? That'd be tough.
Starting point is 00:43:18 We would have struggled with Shaq, for sure. And they had shooters. But Shaq had to come up. Shaq couldn't play that drop. Yeah. Steph was going to shoot. Him and Klay was going to be teeing up, bro. And they didn't even have to screen, because, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:43:33 what Steph would have did to Derrick Fisher. Oh, my God. He thought Matt Barnes was bad. Nigga, Steph would have torched his ass. No, Steph would have. Steph would have torched his. Nigga love throwing jams. Shout out to Fish.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Get well soon. See y'all? Y'all stupid as fuck. Nah, I'd love to see that matchup, though. That'd be fun. Just a matchup and stuff. Yeah, that'd be classic. I'm talking shit, though.
Starting point is 00:44:00 KD, bro, it's over. Y'all can fuck around this thing. It was Devorah. I was like, damn's over. Y'all go fuck around this thing. It was DeMora Lawson's like, damn, man, y'all can get everybody at, but y'all played perfect basketball. I think that's what the dope part about it was like, the kids emulated y'all. Like everybody wanted to be Steph,
Starting point is 00:44:14 but y'all played basketball the right way. So the people who copied y'all just off mimicking had to play the right way. And that's what the dope part about it was like, for you, your impact on the team was just like, no, what he does don't always show up in the stat book, but he dictates the flow of a game. And like you said, the league had to transition that
Starting point is 00:44:29 because what you going to do? Yeah, you can have Shaq get twos all day, dunk crazy, but what happens when that ball screen come out and you get open threes? Absolutely. Now it don't matter. I commend you for that, bro. Nah, that wave.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Playing with all them, bro. Nah, you a different kind of nigga, bro. It used to be a different wave, bro. They'll be chilling, and it's like, all right, we ready. And then you down 15, and then next thing you know, you just down 30. Y'all start, they tying, they taking their shoes off,
Starting point is 00:44:54 they icing up. You trying to get your stats now. I'm like, I love it. I need three more shots. Hold on. Because you know, they used to blow people out. You'd be like, man. That's why I hate the whole Stetsonville got game winners.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Nigga, he up 30 in the fourth. He's not playing no more. You don't need to hit a game winner. He won the second half. That is a dumb conversation to like try to take him out of because, bro, how the fuck am I going
Starting point is 00:45:16 to get a game winner if I'm just blowing my fucking by 67? Bro, that was one year. It's my mirror. Me and Steph, minutes used to mirror each other. We literally mirrored to the T.
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's one of us was in foul trouble. That was one year I think we ain't played 34 fourth quarters. Come on, bro. That's what I'm talking about. That's out of pocket, bro. That had the real PTO. 34 fourth quarters.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Damn. That PTO balance was crazy. Y'all was ready for the club after the third quarter. That's a lot, bro. That is a lot. And y'all weren't playing scrubs all those games. Those were against contenders. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And it's crazy, though, because I also see like, I be seeing them talk about these records and all. And I feel like Klay and stuff never, like, he had 60 on y'all. He didn't play the fourth quarter. He could have had 80. Like, he could have broke
Starting point is 00:46:09 Kobe's record, bro. He was that hot. And, and so, that's one of the things that put them two dudes in a different category for me is,
Starting point is 00:46:17 you got guys who score a lot of points. They still be in close games. Yeah. We used to blow people, like, when they was scoring like that, it was a blowout. Like, it wasn't like it was against a bad opponent, but it's a blowout.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And so they never got to finish whatever it was they was up to. And I don't think they get enough credit for that. And the ego wasn't there because the ego could have said, no, we're going to stay and do this. But the ego was just like, we on the mission. Like, y'all know we're going to win anyway. We're going to get y'all up out of here and get y'all up out the way. We ain't got to see your past stats. We're getting it like you said. In 30 minutes, we're getting what you get in 40. Absolutely. Don't even matter.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's crazy, man. But on that note, man, we got to get up out of here. Drake, appreciate you sliding in. I'll come back anytime. I appreciate you. We got to pull up, man. We got to get on your show, man. We got to get on the U-Stream. Let's do it. We'll do that. Whatever U-Stream, man. I'll come back anytime. Out the gate. We got to pull up, man. We got to get on your show, man. We got to get on the U-Stream. Let's do it. We'll do that. Whatever U-Stream, man. They got all this technology.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Y'all know me. I'm in the hotel room. I can't say nothing on here. They ain't going to pause me, but. I don't know how the hell I'm going to find it. White flag. He was adjusting crazy. I was like, bro, in the studio.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Don't know, future. My God, man, we appreciate you, bro. We appreciate you, man. Thank y'all, bro. For sure, man, y'all know what it is. Like, share, subscribe, all that good shit. We'll be back next week, Club 520. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.
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Starting point is 00:48:39 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
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