Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Jadakiss on New York Knicks, Allen Iverson, Jay-Z, Doc Rivers hairline

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 41 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by rapper Jadakiss during NBA All-Star Weekend to discuss all things basketball, rap music, and sneakers. J...adakiss talks about his love for the New York Knicks, and tells stories about Carmelo Anthony being one of his favorite basketball players of all time. The guys then discuss making a Reebok commercial with Allen Iverson, passing up a verse with Jay-Z, and Doc Rivers' hairline. 00:00 - Introduction03:30 - New York Knicks06:00 - Jeremy Lin09:35 - Favorite NBA jerseys of all time10:20 - Doc Rivers hairline14:20 - Best shoes of all time16:30 - Marquis Teague story18:10 - Jadakiss best beat he passed up on19:50 - Mixtape era24:20 - Jadakiss top 5 ever26:55 - Jadakiss Allen Iverson commercial31:00 - The Podcast life #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:23 A little different setup, you know what I'm saying? All-star weekend. Got to do something special. Special people, special place, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. A little different setup, you know what I'm saying? All-star weekend. Got to do something special. Special people, special place, special guests. We're going to introduce my man's last. We got a legend next to me, but to my far left, my dog, Bishop. Be here. Dr. Pearlie, how you doing, nasty?
Starting point is 00:03:35 What's good, gang? Let's get to it. Shout out to Mitchell and Ness for booking us today, baby. You got the coat on. You feel good, right? Yeah. You know what I mean? Niggas always feel different with that level.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You know, I'll shoot out the ass before your next commercial. Well, yeah, appreciate y'all for having us, for sure. J.J., you done seen a lot of things in your life. You ever seen a black force
Starting point is 00:03:54 with the white laces, though? Them ain't all for it, either. Nah. I'm feeling it. Introduce the other person The other person My dog Young Nacho
Starting point is 00:04:09 Young Teague How you doing man? I'm chilling man Glad to be in the building With a legend The fours came out today But I got the old ones on I'm a classic type of guy
Starting point is 00:04:17 You feel what I'm saying? That's that work right there Yeah that's me I know you a sneakerhead So we got a good conversation coming But I'm hyped to be here man We don't ever really All you need so we got a good conversation coming, but I'm hyped to be here, man. Hey, we don't ever really all unite as people. Like, we got a guest that everybody excited about.
Starting point is 00:04:29 When we had that call, shout out to Dexter. He was like, we can get the legend with us, man. We had to make that happen. J.D. Kidd, appreciate you sliding through the city, man, one time for the one time. Appreciate it. You know what I mean? I feel like it's long overdue.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I've been checking y'all boys out for a while since y'all started. I got some of the dopest convos. Honored to be here, be a part of it. It's All-Star weekend, baby. In the Naptown. Let's get it. Let me tell you a bit through the Naptown. I know you slid through for a couple bags.
Starting point is 00:04:57 They show me a lot of love out here. Probably my first time ever coming was with Puff on the No Way Out tour. Then, you know, shout out to Amp Harris. He became the big brother. And we've been coming out here ever since. A lot of love.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You know what I mean? Appreciate it. For sure. We all really big fans. I'm going to start off. When we ask you a question, I'm going to ask, what's your favorite Jadakiss verse? Verse?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Fuck that. My favorite Jadakiss moment is the verses. Fuck the verses. You broke my heart. You broke my heart. I was showing a little crazy. Yeah, fuck that. That was a monumental moment.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And to me, and I ain't just saying that because you hear it, that's probably, can't nobody top that moment, bro. No, it's not. And the gang took over that shit shout out to the locks y'all y'all slaughtered them boys shout out to cam and them but they they didn't do their homework I'm an honorary member of the dip so they knew I was like I had my whole thing set up I'm like this is about to go crazy then you start rapping I said damn we gonna make it what's my shit hold on now but the combo with him and the
Starting point is 00:06:07 with them and the DJ bro it was just that was a real life performance shout out to Tech Tech with the sounds and the y'all working with
Starting point is 00:06:15 bro that's a legendary then he went ice on it to freestyle they was just like damn I can't what do we do
Starting point is 00:06:20 and then when they try to play y'all dig it's like y'all didn't have no songs for the ladies that bitch turned up even more when y'all started dropping these shit. All these things got shit in the back. Nah, it was his ad-libs, though.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It was crazy. The ad-libs he was doing in the middle. That shit was crazy. I'm still laughing with Jewel sitting down. Jewel's was out of pocket, though, for all them different outfits and shit he had on. But shout out to Cam with them though. They got some.
Starting point is 00:06:49 They had a good show too though. Shout out to my nigga Cam. He a legend. Yeah, thanks. Kiss, we know you a Knicks fan, man. Y'all finally got that roster right this year.
Starting point is 00:06:57 How you feeling about your team so far, man? It's almost like it's surreal. I don't even want to, I don't really want to talk about it to the playoffs because it's like something's going to happen. Even right now, they're on a little four-game losing streak. We got a lot of injuries, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:15 my whole life, I can't believe it. I don't even want to look at the games. I don't, it's like, I don't want to jinx them. But, yeah, to see them doing, doing well is beautiful. And you know, I can't,
Starting point is 00:07:30 like I said, hopefully everything goes smooth. We get into the playoffs and it's more than first round, hopefully second. I'm cool if they go, if they can make it to this,
Starting point is 00:07:41 a good fight in the second. I ain't looking for, you know, we ain't going to jump out the window and say they going to win it this a good fight in the second. I ain't looking for, you know, we ain't going to jump out the window and say they ain't going to win it this year. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just have a nice, have a nice playoff run
Starting point is 00:07:51 and try to build off that. Oh, they definitely going to the Eastern Conference Finals, though. Are you on that? Yeah, they going against my bucks, fear the deer. Hell nah. Nah, here you go.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Come on, bro. Don't get to, don't get to cloud it because we got, we got a trade in the big. Don't do that clouded because we got J.D. to beat. My Hawks is down bad, so I'm a fair weather fan. I'm like whoever hot. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. Me and Wallow got similar. Similar styles. So my books, we hot right now, so. Nah, y'all got a good team, though. Y'all got a good team. Yeah, for sure. Jalen Brunson like that.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah, and the real J.R. Who the real J.R., bro? Julius Randle, bro. He the glue to the team. He out. But I'm saying he the glue still. They started winning when he was out. Who the glue, man?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Y'all not going. Brunson, man. He work with Brunson. Okay. Julius was out. They was still winning. Julius is the mechanic bro Bronson is the driver
Starting point is 00:08:48 He the nigga Getting under the hood bro Making sure shit strike bro But your engine Like still come on But y'all not winning Your check engine Like still come on
Starting point is 00:08:56 Hold on She already got 160 miles On the engine already You can't keep checking it I'm just saying bro They ain't If he is out forever Like they can't win
Starting point is 00:09:04 Without him One of them teams, they need everybody. Yeah. They need every last person to be there, from the staff, the training, to make it work. They ain't got— Y'all can't sacrifice nothing? Yeah, nothing can be misplaced for the work.
Starting point is 00:09:21 They need everybody. That's a fact. Man, for somebody that's never been there, obviously you played there. What's that feeling like when the garden rocking? Like when the Knicks is going crazy and everybody in the garden
Starting point is 00:09:30 at the game, like I know they had some down years and still go up because it's the garden, but like now, what's that energy? Can't go off that
Starting point is 00:09:36 because it's always rocking. The Knicks is the only people that can be 0-82 when the games is all sold out. That's a fact. Like the garden is, but now with some fluidity with the winds,
Starting point is 00:09:48 you could feel it a little more, but you could go there and they're the most horriblest team in the league. And the garden looked like they on their way to the playoffs. You know what I mean? So you can't go off the garden. It's a different arena. Did you ever go to the games When J. Lynn was there? Yeah, of course
Starting point is 00:10:06 Some of them Jeremy Lynn games Them shorts was crazy Yeah The Garden When Jeremy Lynn was there? Yeah, they It was a different How was it like playing in that?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Nah, so we came out You know, the Chinese media was there It was like 45 cameras While we was warming up I'm like Man, he walk out They go nuts I'm like, man, he walk out, they go nuts. I'm like, there's no way. He got his own section of people, media.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You see, yeah, I was winning the All-Star Ballot for years. I wasn't even in the league no more. So once they get behind they people, there's a different presence being brought. Cameras, people, screams. Every shot he makes, you hear a whole section just roaring. The whole building is crazy. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He earned that T-Bone moment, though. Nah, he was killing, bro. He was killing. He was killing, but that gym was crazy. I remember we played him. He was on that run. We was killing everybody. We caught a piece of that.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I was like, damn. I was hurt, too. I was like, he about to kill me. He just killed Kobe. Are you even dunking Smiley? I wasn't dunking, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:09 damn. And then Mello had came back. So Mello kind of messed it up a little bit. He was like, calmed it down. Like,
Starting point is 00:11:16 all right now, you had your mama bring the ball over here. I felt him. I was like, yes, kill Josh. Don't kill me.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, kill him. Who your favorite Nick of all time so far? Got to put them all together and make one Nick. Respect. Like a puck, you know what I mean? A lot of my favorite Nickicks plays went on the other teams and became
Starting point is 00:11:47 greater than they was when they was on the Knicks. You know, it's like a syndrome with Rod Strickland, Mark Jackson. Yeah. Dr. Mark Jackson.
Starting point is 00:11:57 A lot of other people though. Okay. Okay. That's why this year is detrimental to not sweat or not sweat too early. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Stay humble. Yeah. You know, everything's crossed. Because it's just bound to happen. Something's going to go wrong. Nah, for sure. We know you like that on 2K. I seen a little bit yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You and T-Mobile was going at it. I ain't like that. You ain't like that? I'm like that. You got that chip yesterday, huh? I got the chip. Yeah, I'm like that. That's a fact. See, he like that you ain't like that I'm like that you got that chip yesterday huh I got the chip yeah I'm like that
Starting point is 00:12:27 that's a fact see he like what'd they get y'all alright well I was like damn ain't no trophy I see Tyrese actually got a belt
Starting point is 00:12:40 I walked up I was like nobody get my belt I was like keep podcasting what I was like damn damn he couldn't my belt I was like keep podcasting what damn he couldn't even
Starting point is 00:12:48 throw a t-shirt at my nigga oh man that baby ain't great they out of pocket you gotta talk to the GM over there that ain't right
Starting point is 00:12:57 no I'm saying he could've threw a frisbee like to the game to my nigga cause he's got 2k for free damn
Starting point is 00:13:02 that's crazy because obviously we in Mitchell & Ness, man, hunting it down. I got to ask you, what's some of your favorite jerseys
Starting point is 00:13:08 of all time? Oh, man, shout out to Mitchell & Ness. Some of my favorite jerseys, the original Supersonics joint.
Starting point is 00:13:21 A lot of the originals. Original Pacers joint, fire. The Flo-Jo's? Yeah. Old school Denver Nuggets joint. I like a lot of the original, the retro joints. When I was little looking at the games, put you back in that moment. What did you rock with?
Starting point is 00:13:45 I love the Hawks with the bird on it. I like the Pac-Man Hawks, too. I like the Milwaukee with the deer on it. With the deer? Yeah, Fear the Deer. They ain't giving you season tickets. I know, fuck, man. They ain't fucking with me, man.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I said too much bad shit about that. The Nasses, bro. The Nasty. The Nasty. Oh, man. The Nasses is ill, man. The Nas's is ill. I don't want no smoke, but the Nas's is.
Starting point is 00:14:11 When you think about the Nas's, what he's doing, he's making history. He's making history, but a different kind of history. Ah, really? I was about to say. He's making history the other way. You know what I'm saying? He got some of the craziest mix-ups we've seen in one season.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And it's all wildin'. We need to put him in the garden one time. He just, the other day, had 4,006 minutes. That was crazy. That was nuts, dog. He got out there getting bits, but I ain't never getting tickets. My tickets was done, bro. They marketed my nigga the wrong way, dog. I didn't know. He got out there getting bits, but I ain't never getting tickets. I'm not getting tickets. My tickets was done, bro. They marketing my nigga the wrong way, man.
Starting point is 00:14:50 There you are. We're going to get it right, though. How do you foul that much? 4,006 minutes was nuts, dog. He came out there with an agenda. I'm not getting the tickets, bro. It's over. I know. It's this.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Oh, yeah. I'm not going to focus you no more. I'm not getting the tickets, bro. You blew it. Welcome me back, Milwaukee, please. Doc going to hook you up, man. Yeah, Doc, man. Doc, make it right, yeah. I'm not going to focus you no more. I'm like, yeah, you blew it. Welcome me back, Milwaukee, please. Doc going to hook you up, man. Yeah, Doc, man. Doc, make it right, man.
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Starting point is 00:16:07 Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes,
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Starting point is 00:17:24 I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 00:17:38 It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette.
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Starting point is 00:19:25 and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, you see Doc getting to fade in the hotel here? My city, we got to do better, man. We can't be lining up Doc Rivers like that. Why Doc can't get the cut? Nah, Doc.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Come on home, big dog. It's time to let it go. It's time to let it go. Man, stop. Doc got here, man. Stop. They probably sprayed the follicles on this shit. Doc is hard because Doc is making history too. All he got is, man. Stop. They probably sprayed the follicles on this shit. Doc is hard because Doc is making history, too.
Starting point is 00:20:08 All he got is a hairline with nothing in the back. His hairline is still there. Just the crown. There's no foundation. He usually go the other way. You know what I mean? Doc is there with you. He looking at the game.
Starting point is 00:20:25 In the huddle? It's Spoonie ahead now. Oh, God. Doc started that shit. That's where CP got his shit from. People gonna start telling me to take off my hat, bro. Y'all got chill, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Nah, Doc crawled so CP could run, bro. I'm telling you. Hey, that's how much I need. I need to respirator. Come on, man. That ain't OJ. That's on me. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:20:52 The hairline, that's where they got it from. We're going to have to have a documentary about this. So you're telling me CP is going to Doc, bro? He just got this. And it's on the low. Nobody. Let's go to lunch before the game. Let me see where your barber is.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And Doc put him on. Doc was the first nigga, like you said, bro, with the sunroof gone. Doc got the illest barber. Because he's making you. It's an illusion. Doc's the first nigga with the chalk. He's the first nigga with the chalk hairline. He might be.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But I still Doc his ill because he just got the handle. His line is right and there's nothing else. It's a roof goal, bro. So how much does he have to charge Doc for that haircut? Because it ain't like he really doing a real cut. It's on the house, bro. Doc started the trend, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, that's right. How much? Nah, but it costs more than a regular cut because he got to do some work. To make you think he's doing something. We got to get a YouTube tutorial on Doc Cut. That's going platinum. Drop the reel, though. It's coming.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's on the way now. Luis. Are y'all crazy? That's ill. Doc got the headline.all crazy that's ill y'all got the headline hey that's crazy that him
Starting point is 00:22:09 the nasty the Bucks they we gonna talk about them a little bit later cause they really wild I don't know if you're gonna see the tickets again
Starting point is 00:22:15 nah bro he getting them he getting them I'm gonna help him get those hey now you in there now I see the feats absolutely crazy
Starting point is 00:22:23 what's some of your favorite kicks of all time, man? Well, it started with Air Force One. It started with the Air Force One for me on the collecting. I think I was late with collecting. I tried to use my star status and get a little bit ahead of the game, but that didn't really work. Then I got some Jordan love. Shout out to my Jordan brand family.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And we got a little more momentum, but I'd say Air Force Ones. I like Jordan 3s, 4s. I like Dunks. Now I'm older age, I like comfortable sneakers. Think comfortability. New beat. New balance.
Starting point is 00:23:13 That was the best comfortable shoe, bro. New balance? A little Asic. I'm Nike. I'm Nike. I know, I'm just, that's me. I know you. Yeah, I'm Nike.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I don't know what I am. Shout out to the brand. One thing about me. I'm open for whatever. Whatever the check'm Nike. I don't know what I am. Shout out to the bread. One thing about me, I'm open for whatever. Whatever the check is at. Skechers. I've been trying to shoot my shot at y'all for a while.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Me and the real JR. Is that what you call him? It's the real JR, bro. Okay, the real JR. He's sponsored by Skechers. I'm with whatever. Skechers giving out a nice bag over there.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Skechers all out of this, man. They already cut him. Yeah, they told me. They saw episode two of the podcast and said, I don't think you fit our brand. So you said, what to me? He's a little too chief Keefish for us. They need a little edge on the brand, man.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They need to coach you. We're going to get a pair of flyer spots for shit. Shit. Well, I don't say cut the chest. But now following you for a long time and I've followed you For a long time And I seen that you're A sneaker head And like
Starting point is 00:24:07 How many pairs of shoes Do you think you own now? Cause I tell people I own about like Three or four thousand That's a nice amount Yeah but I think You probably got more than me
Starting point is 00:24:18 Nah I don't even I don't even know How many sneakers I got See Not a It's not a lot though Oh you donate sneakers Yeah I give out I don't even know how many sneakers I got. See? It's not a lot, though. Oh, you donate sneakers?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, I give out. I give. I do big giveouts to the kids. You know what I mean? That's hard. Elementary schools, junior high schools. Okay. Shelters.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Family members. That's the worst, the family members I'm gonna tell you about my brother got a little brother named Marcus T shout out to Mook Doggy I had these all white 25th anniversary
Starting point is 00:24:52 11's Mike Bibby gave to me right sorry Mook he he ducking and dodging me in the club I'm trying to get his attention like he in the middle
Starting point is 00:25:00 of the club with a Hennessy bottle like I'm like yo come here he like uh uh I'm straight yo come up here he like namaste, uh-uh, I'm straight. Yo, come up here.
Starting point is 00:25:05 He's like, no, I'm going to stay in the crowd. For some reason, somebody said to me, damn, your brother Jordan's fire. I said, my brother, he ain't got no Jordans. I looked down. He got the all-white 11 verse in the middle of the club. If I showed you the shoe, you wouldn't believe it. Dave Brown.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I saved him. One and done. Dave Brown. Demolished him. Oh, he obliterated. Dave Brown. Demolished him. Shout out to Bibi Moose. Oh, he obliterated him. Dave Brown. His Hennessy stains all on the tongue. He turned bro's shoe up.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Hated him. First day of the All Whites in the club is crazy. Because you know you can't get that back. Yeah. He's still down, man. Murdered him. Wilder, man. I still got him.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's crazy. That's little brother stuff for you, man. Yeah. That's why family members with shoes, they don't get nothing from me. So you hit a trigger when you said family members. Yeah, he said that. And then he sat up in that chair about that.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It's quiet about that. I know your family will do you the greasiest, man. They ain't got no remorse. Facts. Absolutely. Obviously, we big fans of your music. All right, question for you. What's the one song or the one beat
Starting point is 00:26:02 that you passed on that turned into a hit that you was like, damn, I wish I had that back? I got a question for you. What's the one song or the one beat that you passed on that turned into a hit that you was like, damn, I wish I had that back? A couple. One of the Ove joints. One of the Just Blaze. Just five months, 80 million more. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You don't know? Yeah, I had. What was wrong? They sent that. Too much going on sometimes. Yeah. Damn. That's my favorite Holy song.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, and I had that beat. I had a couple of beats. I had one of them necks or jagged, one of them songs that, not jagged edge. It was an R&B song that turned into a hit that had that beat, had that beat first. That's crazy. Sometimes it just, sometimes Sometimes Sometimes you miss Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:07 Nah for sure How How you Fab What made y'all Want to do a tape together It's like my bro You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's like my broski Okay That whole Freddie Jason came about He was doing the Friday night freestyles I was doing Friday mornings night freestyles. I was doing Friday mornings.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Oh, okay. So then we had some nice momentum going in the city with the, you know, with the radio. He came to me with the idea, yo, let's do a project. You know what I mean? Nah, that's hard. Go to the label, get a little nice little bag. Let's do a project. That's all.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Some merch. We did it. It was cool it's cool that's fire do you think like modern times like social media kind of like ruin not ruin it but like the mixtape era how it's kind of dissolved where everything like people putting out singles and stuff like that but like back in the days we used to anticipate y'all having them tapes anticipation like flowing over other beats it's like does the business getting away of doing stuff like that now? One trillion percent. They messed it up. I can't say they messed it up.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Maybe it got better. Maybe it didn't. But you know how, like you said, when y'all used to look forward to us borrowing somebody's beat and you can just throw it out. Now you got to go through the machine.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You got to, you know what I mean? Shout out to Roc Nation. But I just wanted to borrow somebody's beat. I got to pass it to Roc Nation, but I just wanted to ball somebody's beat. I got to pass it to them. They got to send it through. Make sure we don't get sued.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Make sure they don't shut it down. And then, so that kind of like took a little bit of the fluidity out of it. You know what I mean? You can still do it, play it in a car, just tape it and do it, but it's not the same as, yo, I'm about to borrow this
Starting point is 00:28:47 such and such beat and set it on gasoline and send it out. You can still do it, but it takes, they took away from it because you got to send it through
Starting point is 00:28:58 for clearances and this and that and you know what I mean? Especially like, when it first started with like the SoundCloud days, just streaming stuff, like SoundCloud,
Starting point is 00:29:06 you could just go crazy and drop it with no issue. But now that's getting monetized. Now it seems like, yeah, it just— As soon as anything picks up, they start monetizing and slow it down so they can keep it, you know, they can navigate the end results of it. Shout out to Podcaster. Podcaster, a little bit different a couple years ago. Yeah. But now them bags is in there.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Facts. That's the reason why we haven't got Milwaukee. Yeah. But now them bags is in there. Facts. That's the reason why we haven't got Milwaukee season tickets. This dude here got chill, bro. No, but I feel like you, you've always been one of the dopest rappers to me, but I think after the Versus, I think a lot of more, I would say more people knew how dope you were. Now people saying you top five all the time. How did it make you feel?
Starting point is 00:29:45 I know you had to take top five that are alive, but like, what that make you feel like when you hear like LeBron and all these guys, like, yo, KISS being top five? Oh, nah, that's a beautiful thing. When you make music, it's for the people. It's your art. It's your expression.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's how you feeling at the time or whatever you're going through or whatever you want to put out there to the people. So when anybody can embrace it and put you on any kind of list, you know what I mean? There's a trillion artists. Just to make the list is a blessing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So if you can start being in people's fives and tens and twenties or whatever it is, that's just a priceless feeling that, you know what I mean? You feel like the job got done that you set out to do because when you make music, like I said, it's art, but you still, in order for you to make money and be successful, the people have to embrace it. And when you could, you know, hit the center,
Starting point is 00:30:44 master certain athletes, celebrities, or just anybody. have to embrace it. That's right. And when you could, you know, hit the center master, certain athletes, celebrities, or just anybody. A homeless person walked by like, yo, this music kept me under this box for three months. I love you for that. You got to appreciate that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I mean, and that, sometimes that feeling is more than getting a big bag or a big check or a big Dorseman deal or whatever. You know what I mean? Just the fact that it makes somebody feel good off your music or categorize you on the list is a priceless feeling that you should never take for granted. That's just like somebody wearing your jersey.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I got to ask, how was that feeling the first time you heard yourself on the radio? Like the five heartbeats, you remember when you heard that? No, I turned that shit up. It was like that, you know what I mean? Especially coming from Yonkers. Yonkers is like a hidden... It's like a gumball of all of the barrels. It has a little bit of all of the five barrels
Starting point is 00:31:38 mixed with something else. So we would always get overlooked. You know what I mean? It was shout out Mal Vernon, the Bronx, New Rochelle, Skip, Skip Y.O. So once we was able to get on, that was something, that was like the chip on our shoulder. We want to let the people know that is a demographic
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Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
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Starting point is 00:36:48 Speaking of top five, we know you're big with basketball. Who are some of your top five favorite players? Wow. And for the record, that catchphrase with top five anything is just like a religious argument because it's ongoing. It's always going to be better than five goats and anything. But for me, my five players that I love, Magic, A.I., KD, KG. Take it. Take it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Underwrite it. You know what I mean? And Melo. Phil Melo got on Melo. Take it Take it Underwrite it You know what I mean And Mello Phil Mello Got on Mello Mello's career Was really similar
Starting point is 00:37:31 To my career Okay You know what I mean I wish he was still going Still playing But I think he got a lot of He got slighted
Starting point is 00:37:40 I was just about to ask you Who you think Like if you had to put a player. Yeah, Melo. That's definitely Melo. That's his guy. That's his favorite player. What?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Melo. My dog. I like Melo too. For sure. He ain't better than Bron, but I like Melo. That's why I wanted to ask. Well, he used to bust Bron's ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You know that. He used to bust Bron's ass. You know what? He used to bust Bron's ass. The real rookie of the year. That's what it means. Melo rookie of the year. You know you. You still bust the real rookie of the year. That's what it means when you're a rookie of the year. You know you got to scare them. They started off
Starting point is 00:38:09 joking them from right there when they got right there. And he took that sad-ass team. They only won 17 games a year prior. They went to the P-offs too. Brian didn't even go to the playoffs
Starting point is 00:38:20 his first year. But that's another story. But that's why I asked who your favorite Nick was. Come on, bro. Did you see his draft? He's not going to help us. He's 19.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Ricky Davis said he's here to help me. Nah, I don't care nothing about that, though. They were still giving LeBron all the love, bro. He was rocking out in Denver.
Starting point is 00:38:35 If Detroit drafts Melo, this is a whole nother we talking about. Shit. Who was that? Darko? Nah, Melo that dog. I wore my socks like Melo.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Darko Milicic? Yeah, the real DM. Joe Dumas. Joe Dumas, you dropped the ball on that one. Yeah, he definitely did. Smart and bright as you are, Hall of Fame, I love you to death. Yeah, Melo been overlooked his whole career, bro. Yeah, Andrew Slippery with that Melo pic.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They would have had a whip. They already had one. That's one of the biggest hiccups in NBA history. And what's ill is when you talk to any of them, Rip, Chauncey, they all say he messed up. Yeah, bro. I wonder what they saw on Darko, though. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:15 7-2. Politics, man. Politics take over every business, no matter what it is. There's always some politics Inside the seasoning of Every business No matter what it is Music, sports Car dealership Jewelers
Starting point is 00:39:31 Medicine Nah for sure Everything Politics is gonna be involved And I had to bring this up Cause we was around for that time period But you And the Iverson commercials
Starting point is 00:39:41 Fire Y'all made us wanna go get the shoes Y'all made us wanna go get the shoes I. Y'all made us want to go get the shoes. I bought them shoes. Shout out to Chris Robinson. Shout out to Steve Stout. Shout out to everybody involved. You know, we ball fanatics,
Starting point is 00:39:57 so we used to be on a man's living room floor watching him play in Georgetown. So once he got to the league, you still following him. And I remember getting a call. They're like, yo, you want to do a spot for Allen Iverson? I'm like, is the elephant heavy?
Starting point is 00:40:16 So I had to meet up with him. And I remember him like, yo, I just want you to do your shit. You know what I mean? Track Masters gave the beat with the squeaking from the quarter. Mm-hmm. So, nah, this is it. We got this going to have to be a historic moment.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Definitely. We don't get commercials like that no more. That paved the way for, if you think about it, all of the things that came after that. Y'all got shit rocking, bro. Yeah. I know what you wanna say With K-Master Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah He's a corporate man I'ma keep it Jaden Make sure you go get the Yeah I had Boys was walking down The hallway with that
Starting point is 00:40:55 Niggas be mad about my heart It was playing I joined in the club That's when you knew It was Ice That's crazy It was on mixed tape
Starting point is 00:41:04 So yeah Nah y'all had a way For sure I couldn't imagine Getting a drink in the bar Hearing that in the club Ice cream It was on mixed tapes It was on Swear Nah, y'all had a way for sure I couldn't imagine Getting a drink at a bar Hearing that in the club Like dang I'm about to cross this girl I'm with the shot of Hennessy
Starting point is 00:41:12 You having them on During the club They ass Would've fit some jeans Nah, I'm kidding He said don't wear The bronzer club You can wear ass though
Starting point is 00:41:23 No You might get them blue dot questions off the blue toe questions off. That Dom song is that shit right there. Don't wear the bronzer the club. No shit's ugly. Kiss. That song is that shit
Starting point is 00:41:37 right there. I got two people right here who be hating on Dom. They not tapped in. They not tapped in, kiss. They not tapped in. Listen, just take it. Fuck with Dom, dog. Dom is ill. He's ill. Give him a listen, man.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Hold on. Look at T2, man. Jeff, give him a listen, man. Come on. I tried, bro. He played that shit all day. I tried. And Shorty got out the car. Don't listen to him with Shorty, Kirsten. Listen to him. I don't got that gold-out penis, y'all know.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Come on. No, I'm bullshit, bro. We different, dog. I don't got that shit. I'm just that one in the voice. We give him a hard time because he just overdoes it at times. They just not tapping. I be trying to tell him.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I be trying to tell him. I try to put him on spitter. They be like, I'm trying to tell him. No, we respect Spitter. We ain't, he's lying. He just overdoes a lot of shit. I'm happy you're here, Kiss.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Y'all hurting me, man. We like currency, bro. We just, when he be, when we bring it up, music is just, no, but there's certain tears that you,
Starting point is 00:42:38 and moments that you listen to music. You know what I'm saying? No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, like you said, if you smoke reefer, okay, put a Spitter song on, a Wiz song on, maybe some Dom or something like that. But if we about
Starting point is 00:42:50 to pregame and it's, you know, the Leafs crowd, I don't know what Spitter song we can run. We gonna play Future, we gonna play Bad, we gonna play stuff like that. You know what I mean? See, I don't listen to nothing past 2007. Yeah. He's still on Webby Savage Life.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I ain't mad at that. That's why I'm hype kissing, because I still knock myself out. You feel me? Paul, hey, yo. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I used to go crazy. You kept right there, buddy. We got the link. I'm not making that real. No, Paul, don't make that a real. Don't make that a real, Paul. That was crazy. Luis, what's? I was about to say something. No, we in a different place. That was crazy. Luis. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I was about to say something. Hey, we in a different place. Yeah, we are. We in Ventura, we in that home. That was crazy. Nah, but I still listen to that shit, though. I can't even say that, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:37 That was just shit. Yo, wrap this up, man. What we doing? What we doing, man? Nah, what made you get into podcasts, though, Kiss? I like talking. I like sports. Yeah. You know what I mean? What you doing, man? Nah, what makes you get into podcasts though, Kiss? I like talking.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I like sports. You know what I mean? Yeah. And some people don't get to have a different personality than you might receive through the music. You know what I mean? I'm a funny guy sometimes. And I like talking sports, life, music, lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Yeah. With like-minded and good energy people. Yeah. You could get across the mic from some assholes and take your whole energy away. I bet, bro. You know what I mean? You can't. But anybody that's cool, my man Anybody that know Anybody that know anything about sports
Starting point is 00:44:27 Well just a good convo Sneakers, anything, life Dom Kennedy Nah for sure, Shazza Dom We just missed that as kids growing up Cause we always wanted to know What y'all was like as human beings We knew y'all was rappers
Starting point is 00:44:41 That's the luxury of social media and technology. I'm fortunate to have the best of both worlds because in the beginning, the privacy was beautiful. Some of the memories, we had to keep them up here.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It's just priceless and you just relive them in your head. But now with everybody, anybody can capture you at any moment. You have to move different, carry yourself different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It's still beautiful because there's some things you can capture that's needed to be captured. But then again, your privacy's to a bare minimum. It's a gift and a curse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So you gotta find some balance in it and make it work for you. You handling it well, though, for sure. We just glad to finally see, like, damn, Kiss is cool. Like, we ain't never think he was a bad person, but we like, niggas is, nah, niggas is relatable, though. I ain't one of them guys that's like an asshole rapper.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah, but I'm saying it's like when we meet our favorite. There's a lot of them. I was going to say, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Nah, I'll be the third person to tell you, a lot of your favorite rappers are not going to be your favorite people. At all.
Starting point is 00:45:49 But you Benjamin Button, though. You age backwards, bro. For real. Work out. We got to start off with the body, too. Shout out to Juices for Life. Shout out to Juices for Life. You out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You had a body and you had hair. You could grow hair the whole time? Yeah, it was... It was like a pop moment? For one, I was a teenager when I came in. I know you didn't think I was bald. No, I'm saying. That's the part nobody's saying.
Starting point is 00:46:14 How old you thought that last? We was young. Y'all was, bro. I had a bald head. I was shaving it off. X put us in the game, rest in peace to the door. No, thanks. He was like our role model. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Think about Onyx. Think about. Yeah. It was a hit. It was a stab. I'm like, damn, I think it just went major pain for no reason. I always told Styles and Looch, when y'all hear it go, I'm coming back. And they used to be like, get out of here.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And that's what happened. The years came back. Man, I think I'm going to grow my hair. Your shit full of people. They're like, yo, you went to Turkey? You went to Turkey? You went to the hair club? I don't even know how to do none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:46:56 The boss is Steve Harvey. This is my hair. The boss is my real hair. I said Dale Kiss played us All these years Him and Jamar Crawford Yeah but nobody
Starting point is 00:47:08 Didn't think You thought I was bald I was 19 Or 20 Or 21 Niggas be like that bro We know niggas bro Shout out to my boy
Starting point is 00:47:17 Taj Gibson He been bald since We was 19 See some rare cases like that Shout out to Todd Not to anybody Gilly said he was baller My boy Jack
Starting point is 00:47:33 Gilly used to have a good season Back in the major figure days Gilly had hair Back in my He had a fade It was back though His line was back What are you on bro
Starting point is 00:47:43 Shout out to my nigga Gilly That's my guy That's my guy That's crazy It was back, though. His line was back, though. What are you on, bro? Shout out to my nigga Gil. That's my guy. That's my guy. That's crazy. Now, shout out to Juices for Life. Shout out to Pharmacy for Life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Shout out to Kiss Cafe. KissCafeCoffee.com. Order some of that good coffee. But yeah, you got to work out. You got to eat right. You know what I mean? Your body, what you put in is how it's going to operate. You know what I mean? You can't drive a Bentley and put bullshit gas in it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Nah, he preached that, though. It ain't going to work. He work out like he in the joint. Movement is medicine. You got to move. Yeah. Just go outside and walk. Do something, but move.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You know what I mean? That's another thing. This technology messed up. People ain't talking to each other. They ain't walking outside. They ain't. Yeah, kids don. People ain't talking to each other. They ain't walking outside. They ain't. Yeah, kids don't know how to interact with each other. Now the keyboard, joystick, keyboard, you're stuck in front of the TV.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Go outside. The new punishment is go outside. Grab your tablet. No. We used to get, after staying in the house, you go crazy. Now you tell your kids stay in the house, they celebrate. You got to turn the electricity off, cut the router off. That's the new punishment. Punishment now is go outside. They start crying. Go to the park. I never thought about that. That's
Starting point is 00:48:57 real shit. They can't wait to stay in the new kids, so yeah, you got to call us out. That's a bar. Definitely. Absolutely. Because what else you got going on, man? We'll get the promo off when we get up out of here. We got Juice for Life already. Yeah, Juice for Life.
Starting point is 00:49:13 We got coming, too. New projects right now. I'm working on two projects as we speak. One's going to be like a mixtape, edgy vibe, and one's going to have a gumball of everything. This year, for sure. For sure. It's going to be a great summerall of everything. This year, for sure. For sure. It's going to be a great summer.
Starting point is 00:49:28 All right, man. Wonderful summer. Kiss, we appreciate you sliding on us, man. Mitchell and Des, appreciate y'all for having us. We got a announcement coming up. It's a collaboration. My dog, T-Mark. T-Mark over there.
Starting point is 00:49:37 We might get him on camera. Louisa. Yeah, coming real soon. 3-1-7 day in the city. We dropping something real, real nice. Appreciate y'all rocking with us. Like, share, subscribe. All that good shit. Club 520. Appreciate you.
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