Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on history of Freaky Mike, Edwards vs. SGA, Brunson GREATEST Knick ever

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 59 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Producer Mike to discuss the origin story of Freaky Mike. The guys then discuss whether they would start an NBA franchise with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander of the Oklahoma City Thunder or Anthony Edwards of the Minnesota Timberwolves, as well as where Jalen Brunson ranks as an all-time Knicks player as Jeff says Brunson has New York more lit than Carmelo Anthony did. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in his position, man. The legendary. Before it could have been records. It was Urka Jerk Records. Hit E&T. Hit E&T, you got to give him a chain now. Nah, for sure, for sure. You ain't worked hard enough. You ain't worked hard enough.

He ain't recouped yet. I bought him some shoes, though. I bought him some shoes. They didn't know. That was a silent bought him some shoes. They said no. That was a signing boat of some shoes. Yeah, I bought him some shoes out of feature.

Shined a feature. I bought him some shoes. Oh, shit, you did? I did. I did. That was a signing boat. He got me some black forces, y'all. No, I didn't.

He didn't give me the white laces. No, I didn't. I got you some shoes that you really wanted. Actually, it wasn't even the forces. What's the joint? So you was tricking on him?

Yeah, I was tricking on him. It's a token. You know how I was fucking. A token? You know how they do TLC. Come on. He can't get it wrong. The RAV4 on the way.

He did. His car is at the shop, so the RAV4 on the way. Oh, me. He bought the turquoise. We got it together. It's at the pay shop. Shopping my codes. Oh, the RAV4 on the way.

The bus that we're at for. Doing something right. My dog, young Nacho, young T. How you want? Chilling, bro. I appreciate the feats today, man. Yeah. B.H. got on the Icy Whites.

Yeah. That boy got on them rare threes. Ain't that what they're called? Yep. Rare. Gucci flip-flops. I might fuck your bitch and some Gucci flip-flops. You know what I'm saying?

Winning Vegas. For sure. Seaman Ford. It's quality kicks today, bro. And they ain't the new ones either. You know what I'm saying? These ain't. Nah, them ain't the new ones. I sure. Seaman Ford. It's quality kicks today, bro. And they ain't the old, they ain't the new ones either. You know what I'm saying? He's like,

nah, them ain't the new ones. I don't know, man. You know, it's just vibes. Listen, man. Long go ahead of episode. Y'all been asking for it. Here we are. The origin.

The man behind the camera. We're going to get to the beginnings. The one and only Freaky Mike in the building. My dog, how you at? This is how you know we're getting desperate. We're on this side of the camera.

No, we ain't getting desperate. It's just the people been asking for this, and it's time to come share your truths. Yes. And y'all lies. And your journey. No, no lies. We just want to know. The people want to know. You know what I mean? Adam 22 got from behind the camera

and started podcasting, and then he started his other career. You went the other way. You started like Adam 22 got from behind the camera and started podcasting. And then he started his other career. You went the other way. You started like Adam 22. Yeah, you was Adam 22. You was the first Adam. Yeah, you was a real reporter. I would never let my wife participate.

Hold on. You didn't say your wife was part of it. No, I'm just saying. But like, if I'm Adam 22, I would never. Nobody hung wood in Sierra for your liking. It's different.

We talk about you shooting content just being who you are. I don't like Adam 22 comparison. I didn't like that at all. That's a nasty mention. That's a bad version. That was a hell of a name to say. I just like the producer

that want to come out and sing now know, come out and sing now. You know what I'm saying? Okay, yeah. You the dream. You the dream. That's perfect. Okay. Well, first of all, let's start with, since this is an origin story, I didn't want to be your producer.

That's a fact. That's a fact. And we did not take no for an answer. I did not want to be here now. But we're here. Did not take no for an answer. But we're here. Yeah.

I think once Jeff told you your percentage, that kind of locks you in a little more. I don't get paid enough still to this day. I feel like, while we're on record. Mind y'all, I'm going to tell y'all,

fuck him talking. This is equally yoked. No, we're not. No, we're not. It is. It's literally equal everything. Y'all know our business. So since niggas always want

to throw everything under the bus, I'm telling. It's 25, 24, 25, 25. I don't know which camera is mine because I'm our business. So since niggas always want to throw everything under the bus, I'm telling. Well, I don't know which camera is mine because I'm over here. I don't know where my 25 being, because if I had 25% of all the money y'all make. Well, we only go for the taxes that we did. We did the tax.

It was like, I think your payment was $285,000. You did get that $285,000. I feel like if I got paid that much money, I would have an ankle Cuban. Was that before or after the bonus? Yeah, that was after the bonus. No, that was before the bonus. But you did, instead of buying an ankle,

you bought a house? No. A building? No. Apartment complex. I went to Ellis Ayers and got my shit out of that way. First of all, Ellis Ayers is dead. And we know

she actually took 80 percent first of all that's not even a joke of everything i make can you kind of give uh our viewers like um just a background what you did before the pod um so i was a photographer i did not take pictures of women with cupcakes that's a lot that's a lot i did it one time oh it was one time what was the cupcake place so she wanted the ice the shit on her nipples like to cover the nipple right there's a trial going on about that. I mean, she asked for it. That's a different maker. He wanted something else. Would you do that shit when they go to Iceland? When the girls try to steal this shit out the rubber? The turkey mixture?

So, if you've ever shot with me, you know I don't do the oil. I don't do the icing. Like, they got to do all that stuff themselves. I'm like, I'm not afraid't do the oil. I don't do the icing. Like, they got to do all that stuff themselves. I'm like, I'm not afraid to do all that. I don't do none of that. But yeah, it was just icing on the nipples. So I was a stripper photographer. Strippers paid my bills for like three years.

And then I realized that I can't be a progressive person like that. I can't be productive with strippers paying my bills. So I ended up being a real estate agent. I mean, most people pay strippers bills, and they pay your bills. That's a little bit of a transition. But he started taking pictures of bitches with crossing their arms. Yeah, that's what I'm taking, the headshot pictures.

Right. That's a white shirt. Everybody real estate pictures. I ain't mad at that. But now he didn't put my nephew on today. So now my nephew take all the strippers pictures. I ain't mad at that. But now he didn't put my nephew on today. So now my nephew take all the stripper pictures. We had to get to the origin story

because now Malcolm's on the team now and he's under your toolage and we had to figure out, you know what I'm saying, what was really going on. I see him buffing out some ass the other day. That nigga bitch had dits everywhere.

He was taking them all out. I was like, get that motherfucker your hell down. Don't take the hell damage out. I was like, yeah, give the photographer some game, Mike, on the editing process. Do you request or do you ask the girls, like, hey, it's dented up back there. Do you want this in the picture or not?

Or do they come to you? So me personally, all jokes aside, I was a real professional photographer. So I never was like, oh you ugly or are you built bad? You need to change this. I would make my client ask me to fix it. You came in knowing you was fat. You asked me to trim you down a little bit.

If you came in 225, I'm going to edit the picture of you at 225. Not saying 225 is fat. A lot of girls is 5'2", 225 is fat? Cause if you, cause a lot of girls is five to 225. If you buy two to 25 in my picture, you can look five to 225. Unless you say I want to be five to one 50.

Man, Daniel, listen, you go shave off a whole hundred. I feel like they go to Miami all the time and they pay tens of thousands of dollars. You could come to me for a whole hundred. I feel like they go to Miami all the time and they pay tens of thousands of dollars. You can come to me for a smooth 500. I'll trim you down for

all your instruments. It costs to trim them down? Yes. So you're the reason why niggas be getting mad when they meet women in person? I am. You a catfish king? For sure. For sure. You tricked the whole Sunset. Hold on. You pulled... That whole group was probably some of my top paying clients. You tricked the whole Sunset. Hold on. You pulled... Sunset was like that. That whole group was probably

some of my top paying clients. You pulled a girl down 75 pounds. I have before. Got rid of wrinkles. Damn, man. Got rid of the hell damage. So if you just want a regular picture... Added some nail polish.

A regular picture is this price. Added nail polish. Added the nail polish. Then if you want the hell damage and all that removed, that's a whole nother price. Yeah, it's a whole different package because now you're making me really work. Now you're trying to look like Beyonce.

Damn. Okay. It's nice. So off the drive, do you say, like, this is your picture. Like, you cool with this? And knowing that they're like, are you really cool with this? Because like you said, you ain't giving them no advice, but they still want to bust down. So what I do is I send them the proof, right? So the thing that come out of the camera

is what you look like. The camera does add 10 pounds. So if you 225, you 235. Oh, Lord. So, and I just say, give me any notes on anything you want me to change or fix. That's your opening.

So if you're like, I want to be a little slimmer, I'm going to say, how slim? You say, you got some, you got these bags under your eyes. I'm going to say, are you going to erase them or you mean lighten them up A little bit

Damn They left your They left your Your leave out Kinda fucked up on this side You want me to fix that Or you like that You bustin' out the middle parts

Listen to me This nigga might do hair They gonna pay They gonna pay Your hairstylist Two three thousand dollars To have your shit fucked up Give me the five hundred

I'm gonna spend fifteen minutes Gettin' your edges together And we smooth nah i ain't trusting instagram yeah that's that's crazy bro that's crazy so what about the video work though the video you can't do that in videos that's why like at first i didn't do videos because i couldn't cheat like i can't make you look better in videos oh okay if you you you you you ain't no filters yeah i mean you can put some filters on there, but you're just going to change the color.

You ain't going to really look better. So you're going to go Sammy Sosa, but that body's still what it is. Yeah, you're going to be body, you're going to be body. 225 going to be 235 no matter what. Exactly. That's Rikishi if I'm too. All headshots. Respect. So what's the

process with the video world, though? So I really, honestly, y'all, I didn't like doing video. Like, y'all made me do the video shit. Like, I did videos for myself because I was trying to build my clientele. I was trying to do more of, like, the real estate investing side of things. So I was creating videos for myself. So I knew how to do it. So you never shot a short film?

No. I directed films before. No. So you never shot a short film? No. I've directed films before. What kind of films? Oh. This is where the pie gets good. I've only directed business films. Define business.

That is a business. See, if Diddy would have did that, it would have been a business. That's not true in Indiana, by the way. We can't shoot those type of things. Wow. So he had an LLC. My LLC is based out of Delaware.

Wow. Wow. Check that P.O. box. So basically, he was like my dog that had sister wives in Maine. I mean, where was he at? Wyoming. Oh, I said Utah. No, somebody wrote me and said, bro, they lived in Utah too, bro. You wasn't wrong.

I knew that shit. So you can't take that shit on the road, man. Take polygamy only in Wyoming. It's illegal there too. It's illegal in all 50 states. I thought it said it was cool there. No, no, no. That's what this nigga was told, but it's not okay there. I thought it said it was cool there. No, no, no. It might be accepted.

That's what this nigga was told, but it's not okay there. He made it cool. So what's that transition from doing photos, short films, professionally, to working with us three doing this now? What's the difference? So I used to have a lot smoother days,

less headaches, less issues. People responded to my text messages back then. I don't do that shit. My life was easier before y'all. Yeah. But was it funner, though? No, no. They didn't do shit.

I didn't have to do shit, I think was the best part before y'all. You was retired. I was retired. Yeah. But now I guess it's cool. y'all. You was retired. I was retired. Yeah. But now, I guess it's cool. Like, y'all all really get on my fucking nerves. Let's talk about that part. Okay, who get on your nerves the most? Who's the worst, though?

It depends on what my stress is that day. Like, today, DJ didn't show up to the airport until it was time to get on the plane, literally. I was freaking out because he's known to miss flights. I'll miss one flight in my life. And you've been late to a lot of them. But I get on there just fine. I got in my seat

and had a blast. He was. I saved my boy's seat too. As the responsible person on this podcast, it just stresses me out sometimes when they don't show up to the airport. So DJ be late. We'll be here. DJ be late. But he ain't just argue about every fucking thing. He's wrong. And he be wrong. What the hell fucking thing and he wrong and he be wrong

like what the fuck what are we doing he be hella wrong my mama my mama don't be wrong I swear and then like

he really try to stand on shit that he the most wrong about yeah I really I really don't well I'm not gonna

let y'all do that on my podcast I really don't I really don't be wrong no y'all y'all just don on my podcast. I really don't be wrong. No, y'all just don't see both sides of it. I'm a two-way player.

I'm a two-way player. Koala in an NBA only. That is off-course shit. Y'all niggas think one way. I just brawn it up, bro. Like, nah, we can do this too. Honestly, there's nothing funnier than a mic and be him back and forth.

That shit be hilarious. That's how he became an artist, though. But now I see how Meek Mill feel. I mean, how Rick Ross feel when Meek Mill was getting out of line. Like, you know, like I brought you in this world. I can get you out of here. And I feel like Michael is just running a lot. But did y'all ever see, like, Rick Ross' baby mama talk about Kanye?

Yes, bro. Bro, TK, this is a go. Hey, bro, so wrong with her, bro. We need her on the pod. Please let us follow 20. She need to bag up from that table now. She is fucked up. She is fucked up.

I ain't laughing at the kids, but why would you say that, man? She's fucked up. I was laughing, bro. She's probably the top three funniest person on the internet, for sure. Nah, bro, she's funny. Nah, but I'm really the most easygoing out of all four of us. You gotta give me that mic.

Nah, I don't. How am I difficult? Go ahead, bro. I will say,'t. Bullshit. Oh, how am I difficult? You understand? Go ahead, brother. So, I will say... On some real shit. When it comes to decision making, B-Han might be the easiest person

to sway in reasonable situations. Yes. And I am the easiest person to call when you need something. Yes. Because you actually pick up the phone. All right. I'll give you that. I ain't picking up shit. All right. So, this nigga over here need something. Yes, because you actually pick up the phone.

I get that. I ain't picking up shit. So this nigga over here, though. Say his name. Jeffrey. DJ stresses me out because he just be in la-la land sometimes. He just be gone mentally sometimes.

We just be having a lot of conversations that don't amount to, like, submissive answers. So I just won't waste my time until everybody's going to have it. So he be on the fence so much. I'm like, bro, if you just tell me your answer,

we there. Like, we there. Okay, I get you. Like, he just be like... Now, the counter to that is, some of those times, you won't make an answer that could definitively not have a conversation. Then we have a conversation. There go our Kenya bars that is. You won't make an answer back at the fiddle beats.

Not have a conversation. Then we have a conversation. There go our Kenya bars. There go our Kenya bars. There we go. Yeah. Every time I'm like, Mike, don't ask a question.

Just say what we doing. He be like, how y'all feeling? I'm like, well, here we go. Because DJ snapped on you last week. I did not snap. He did.

I did not snap. He did. He checked my... I did not snap. Just say checked my... I did not say that. Just say what you want. I was over there rolling. DJ didn't speak his mind that day. I was saying to him.

Yeah. Because he don't do that. Okay. I was like, okay, I respect DJ's mind today. I'm on the exact same thing. That shit was funny. So DJ's cool with whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

For the most part, I'm good. But Jeff, like, I think the scariest part is, like, not even scary. I be right about everything. No, you be wanting to quit every time something don't go right. I do. People be like, I'm not showing up today. The fuck? Like, I'm not just gonna respond to texts for three

days. Yeah, he cool. Like, are you coming or not? Y'all call me the diva, and I'm glad this is going out to the world. It's a thousand percent, no, no funny shit. But diva, and I'm glad this is going out to the world. I promise. It's a thousand percent. No, no funny shit. But diva just mean like the most like needed, like it's him. That's a fucking lie. I agree.

Real shit. I'm the easiest. I'm the easiest one. Mike manages us to say the least, but I promise Jeff is probably the most difficult one to like get to do any fucking thing. How? Because so like I got all the ideas. You do have a lot of ideas.

I would say 95% of all the great things that Club 520 does Jeff is going to say he came up with. 1000%. And even if that's true, that's fine. I would say when it comes to like you know what I'm saying? I'll keep factual. came up with. A thousand percent. And even if that's true, that's fine. I was going to say, I didn't say that. But when it comes to like, doing this,

no, listen, I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to keep factual. But when it comes to like, doing shit, Mike,

no, you should be, this is your part. No, no, go ahead, get your shit off me. You 100% right.

The nigga is just not. He don't be there all the time. I do. Hold on, first of all, I've had every single thing. I don't miss nothing. But you don't want, so it's a difference. It's a difference. You think these niggas want to? You show up to everything. I do. Hold on, first of all. I bet every single thing. I don't miss nothing. But you don't want

sons of difference. Yeah. You think these niggas want to? You show up to everything. I do. Fuck no. Me here always wants to be there.

Facts. Facts. That's a lie, too. That. No, we ain't did shit. No, no, no. That was a lie. Oh, we ain't do playback.

We lost playback because of you. What? You're the worst person to mention about this. We didn't lose playback. We stopped doing playback. Shout out to playback. We'll be back in a minute. No, we lost playback because of you What? You're the worst person to mention We didn't lose playback We stopped doing playback We stopped doing playback because of y'all No, he the one said

Damn, this shit is kind of long Three times a week I didn't say three times a week Who said I'd do it three times a week? You said that after I said if I could do it from the crib, I'm cool After you said I don't want to do it three times a week? You said that after. I said if I can do it from the crib, I'm cool. After you said I don't want to do it three times a week. Mike been saying we can do it at the crib.

But that's just one example. We love playback. We just give y'all what we say how we want. Shots of the game. Nah, for sure. We love playback. First of all, I'm the easiest going person. No, you're not, bro.

Us flying today. Let's talk about the fucking flights. The flights, the rooms, the Ubers. Why y'all want to treat yourself like second class or something? We don't get paid that much money. That's a fucking lie.

I do shit. I don't want to ride the back. I don't want to stay at three stars. No, I want to stay at five. Look at this view. at this room This shit nice That's how I like Hey This is not a 3.9 star

Yeah that's what Hey one thing I'ma do I'ma ride cool And I'ma live cool Like I'ma lay my head down And feel comfortable Nah I don't complain about

Nothing else That's one thing I complain about Nah that's not true What else I complain about Bro What we have to do sometimes If you could Ride on this bitch in a private jet, stay in this, in every city we live in,

you would still find something to complain about. That's a lie. When we got to do something. He's going to complain. He's going to do it. And then if he don't go exactly right. He's going to say, I told y'all. I told y'all.

Because I don't do this shit. I'll always be right. I'll always be right. That's why I'm not complaining. No, bro, I'm always going to show up. He ain't never going to do this to me. He's going to show up every time. I'm on be right. I'll always be right. I'm always going to show up. He ain't never going to show up every time. I'll always be right. Which is the point I was making.

And then y'all be like... I'll never say that. I'll be like, look, I told y'all. I mean, it worked out. No, it didn't. Niggas ain't been back around the block. I don't want to say who ain't came back around, but y'all showed nothing new. No, no, no.

We're going to have nice drinks. All right. That was one time. It's every time. Shout out to Grant Caramino and everybody else out there. This thing is definitely the most difficult. DJ is definitely the whatever difficult DJ is definitely the

Whatever y'all want to do That's me DJ always sends in the group text Whatever for the team He's one of those guys But DJ does not respond Until everybody responds And then he says okay

Which to me though is the problem though Because DJ And I tell people all the time, like everybody's like, oh, Jeff is the most important person on the podcast. And I'm like, debatable. People come to see Jeff on the podcast. People stay to watch Behean on the podcast. But I don't think neither one of you niggas could do the podcast by yourselves. special for first-time users. New DraftKings customers bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Make it a playoff

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We're just talking to each other without DJ controlling the podcast. I think the way it's perfectly yoked is just meant to be. I agree.

The difference between y'all is I'm a perfectionist. That's why y'all think I complain a lot. I just like perfection. That's been my life. Y'all know I got OCD and all that shit. Everything gotta be perfect. This nigga here.

I give y'all a prime example. Last night, I always complained about the audio about the morning show, right? I was gonna move to that, but good shit. I do, though. Fans, I know y'all complained about the audio. I'm on the show now. I want y'all to complain to my face. The audio on the morning show is bad.

Oh, damn. So, I think, like... I'm a perfectionist, so it's like, I understand people enjoy the morning show, they like it, but I'm like, we can make it better. Can we do this? Can we do that? And y'all be like, oh, here goes Jeff. Because I say it in a fucked up way. I know I do.

I be like, this shit trash, bro. That should be funny. I feel like at this point, we all know each other's personalities enough to know where the hate is coming from. I'm saying, I don't know about the 12, 5, 20 DMs. I don't be on that page, so y'all be talking to me.

We get texts and DMs just about, you know, sometimes the audio and we being transparent. This is a transparent show today. What do you think it is? He's definitely Michael Beasley. What?

Don't cry, nigga. What do you think we could do to advance the morning show on some real shit? Me? Yes. What do I think I should do? Because we don't know. I think if y'all talked and see y'all mics directly, the audio would sound that much better. I think if y'all talked and see our mics directly, the audio would sound that much better.

Mm. I think, um, Mook was probably the best thing that happened to the morning show. Agreed.

I wonder who said that. That was that one of the 95% moments. Who said that Jeff wants to claim? I think it would be

a difference if we put Marcus on the show from five. Oh, oh, he said now we did say this. that Jeff wants to claim. I think it'd be a difference if we put Marcus on the show from 5 to... Oh. Oh. He said... Malcolm did say this. He said that.

Oh, did I? Hold on. Fuck all that. Wait, wait, wait. Who said let's do a morning show? Gilbert Arenas. Get the fuck out of here.

That was me. Low key. Low, but it was literally me. He said y'all here. That was me. Low key. Low, it was literally me. He said y'all need to do extra content. Y'all need to do more content. Y'all need to be doing live. I literally do a lot of live.

He said that. That nigga just hate it. We love Gilberanus. We literally, we love Gilberanus. We love Gilberanus. Thank you for the game. I literally said,

I think we should make a morning show. When did you say that? Nigga, I said that before we even seen Gilberanus. That was the first thing I said. I said, we make a morning show. Like we can, we can Nigga, I said that before we even seen Gilbert Arrington. That was the first thing I said. I said, we make a morning show. We can compete with people. They'll watch us in the morning. I was like, we got to make more content.

And y'all want to know what they said? We don't get paid enough money to do that shit. I still don't get paid enough money. And then I said, you know what? Let's pitch it. So, nigga, fuck y'all. He got his order operations fucked upall. I think he do, but you did say

all of that. It's definitely his idea. You definitely said all of that. But 95, all the ideas and shit, we let him get his shit off, but that idea, a thousand percent is yours. It is. Mook being on the morning show has been phenomenal.

But I do want to say, too, though, Mook being on the morning show has been phenomenal. It has been a great addition to the game. But I do want to say too, though, Mook being on the morning show and his position that he's in now was not the original idea. It's not.

He was supposed to do a college segment at first. It just worked so well that it became more permanent. So, even though it was your idea, it kind of just naturally grew even though it was your idea,

it kind of just naturally grew into what it is now. Yeah, because his idea. You didn't envision it like you did now. He didn't, because Jeff's original idea was like, Moop knows college. He mastered college. Let him come in here and go crazy about college. Moop came on later on to the pod around tournament time. So we're going to remix it next year

and he's going to speak the whole time on, you know what I mean, NCAA. But that was Burrow's original idea. So to get Mook on the show, for sure. But for Mook, he's us now.

I want to ask Mike this question because I know outside, I mean, he does majority of this. I do a small percentage of it. Who was the most annoying or we can't say, what was the most annoying situation we had to deal with? Because I know, especially early on, we had so many fucking phone calls with people

and a whole lot of shit that didn't make any sense to wait a whole bunch of time. What was the funniest or what was the most annoying or most memorable point? Y'all know I'm a super transparent person. So I don't really give a fuck. Yeah, fuck it. It was Gilly. Last week was two weeks ago, three weeks ago.

I don't give a damn. Oh, what's that? We here, we here. I love Gilly because now we had an understanding. Let me see that. I love you. But I swear to you. Gilly, you had my boy tight.

My nigga said. Michael is hot as a motherfucker. I'm not kicking your ass on my own dime. Not on no club 520 shit. Who else? Oh, we ain't promoting that. But I don't get mad. Can y'all agree?

I don't really get. I don't get loud. You don't get too much out of character. I don't argue or nothing. But like, so we had a misunderstanding. It was a true misunderstanding on both ends. A true misunderstanding. 100% misunderstanding.

Like now we, in hindsight, we good now. But like he called me when I'm at my son's game and he like snapped. And then he hung up on me. And I was like, damn. Maybe he didn't mean to hang up on me. I'm going to call him back after the soccer game. So I called him back. And he was calm for like three seconds, which I know Gilly.

I've seen the show. He's really like that. And he goes real loud, real fast again. And then he hung up on me again. And at this point, I was like, I need to go to Philadelphia. Because clearly, we're having a misunderstanding and I don't know how to yell or argue with people.

Shout out to my nigga Wallo for not picking up the phone. Shout out to Wallo. I'm like, let me call Wallo because I think me and Gillian are having a misunderstanding. I call Wallo, sends me the voicemail. So me, me, and Gillian and Wallo are in a group chat and I'm like, hey y'all, I'm still trying to be calm.

Like, hey, y'all, I think we're having a misunderstanding. Yeah. Gilly says, niggas send me a bill. Yeah. And not to put the whole conversation out there, but. That got taken out of context, too. It did. It did.

I wanted to fly to Philly, but me and Gilly had a good conversation. Basically, it was Malk's fault. Yeah. That good conversation. Basically, it was Malk's fault. That's it. It was Malk's fault. Shit got uploaded, and they called me. He called me like, B.M., what the fuck? Y'all niggas uploaded an episode? I said, damn, we grinded in a bitch.

I'm on the A$AP, my nigga. My fault, for real. Hey, the funny thing about it was, did I call you before you talked to him? I don't think so. I don't know. Yeah, I did call you before you talked to him. Because I't think so. I don't know. Yeah, I did call you before you talked to him. Because I had looked at the DM. I was just like, what the fuck? I was like,

hey, you see this shit? Oh, yeah. You called me. You did? Because I was at my son's game. Yeah, he was like, I'm at the game. I'll check it out later. I was like, alright, well, at least somebody know. Yeah. Did I wake up in the morning and say, oh, niggas had Armageddon yesterday. Yeah, I didn't give a fuck. I don't look at none of the texts. Ever.

Which is probably one of our biggest problems. It probably is. Like the other day when we had a text about somebody had a show we were supposed to do and I showed up and the nigga woke up. I was hot. He was like, what? He ain't here? They texted at 4.30.

Shout out to Freddie Gibbs. Shout out to Freddie Gibbs. Yeah. Shout out to Freddie Gibbs. There's a lot of mishaps with this pod shit. But all in all, we enjoy all what come with this shit, though, because we never thought

it would be what it is. Or I didn't. Nah. I'm saying... Guess who did? Whatever. Guess who did? I spoke on it.

I just was on it. Shout out to... Look, guess who did? Nah. I said, be here. This shit... One day, we was at the old spot. I used to get in trouble. I said said be here This shit One day We was at the old spot

I used to get in trouble I said be here This gonna be special Me and this nigga Used to talk till Four in the morning For real real talk The real five

And he was like Nah bro Like I see what This shit gonna be So I give bro Credit to that too Like he definitely DJ too though

I spoke on that On the pod Like DJ kinda like I used to say DJ Overachieved But all our goals that we was hitting early on, DJ called that shit before everybody. He was asking. He had some wild

overachieving goals. Especially that first 100K we hit on my mama, DJ called that shit off the gate. It was just at one point, like you said, we all had a confidence hit, but at one point it just wasn't adding up. And I was just like, something going to happen and shit going to go crazy. And we just had that moment. We had that summer and then shit just went crazy.

But I give Mike a lot of credit because we be having so many conversations with people that we don't be wanting to have. And we be having so many conversations with people that don't be going nowhere. But we got to do it because that's the business part of it. It's a part of the journey, bro. And I know most people I talk to, he probably talked to five times the amount of people around my existence. I ain't doing that.

Yeah. So I always give you your flyers for that. I told Mike he part of the MVP of the whole pot because I ain't answering shit. When niggas call, y'all be like, hey, oh, buddy and them ask about you.

Are you going to respond? I'll be like, man, fuck that Are you gonna respond I be like man Fuck that shit We really do be like that And I be trying to just phrase Like how can I tell them He said fuck y'all This nigga be calling me On how I should talk to you

Or how he should talk to you About shit I'm like bro Just tell the nigga What it is I feel like if I say it wrong I'm gonna have a longer longer conversation than I need to. Because we ain't going to say the name.

I'm going to just say no. And shout out to this brand who really, they really fuck with us, but we can't say the name. But he was like, I was nothing on it. Remember? And you called me like, man, what should I say to this nigga? It was last week. Oh, yeah.

He called me like. Nah, it can't be the shoes. I was fucking with the shoes. No, no, no. No shoe shit. This was bigger than that. Like, this was some big chicken we was playing with.

Oh, y'all talking about... Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. We playing with it. I can't... We ain't trying to show out or nothing, but this is some big money. This is why I'm like... There was a lot of conversations.

No, no, no. And I'm like, yeah, this nigga Jeff a little too rich. He getting too individual shit. But I told Mike to let him breathe. Yeah, and he responded.

He responded quick. He was like, nah, I'm cool. He's like, yeah, I ain't fucking with it. I said, did you hear the number? Yeah. Did you see the number?

Immediately before I responded, called me in and was like... He called me. Is he hot? He might be drunk. I said, let that nigga breathe. He probably... He called me. Is he hot? He might be drunk. I said, let that nigga breathe. He probably having a long night. He's having a bad day.

Yeah, Orion probably in that bitch screaming on that guy. I'll try again tomorrow. I don't think I responded. No, you didn't. I didn't respond. But I'm like, don't call that nigga tonight. Fuck you.

Like, on some real shit, fuck that nigga. Because if he fuck up this money, he better not say nothing about shit else he got going on. And see, that's why we're being transparent with y'all. Because if he fuck up this money, he better not say nothing about shit else we got going on. That's why we're being transparent with y'all. Speaking of deliverables. This is the

shit that we go through. This is the shit that we go through behind the scenes. So we're just bringing this shit to the camera. Hold on, bro. I said no for one reason. What was the reason? I'm here now. It don't matter I was like this nigga

with him when he get mad it's fuck everything he get on that nigga I do it by myself nigga I'm too not nigga fuck them niggas I'm the real death roll he be on that he be on that type of time

but we'll be right with me though no no no no no, no, no. This nigga. We can do this shit. No, no, no, no, no. What? With this number? That's why he called me. I'm the culprit to this nigga.

This is my nigga. We all cool, but I know how to deal with this nigga for real. I told Mike, Mike, just let that lather over, bro. This nigga tweaking. He ain't really look at that number, because that nigga always, this is why he's so bogus. Three weeks ago,

I'll never forget. This nigga said, what'd he say? I do everything. I do everything. We gotta turn up. We gotta get better. That's why I didn't believe in this shit. I just told y'all, I hate flying, bruh. Y'all know I hate flying, bro. Y'all know I hate flying. That's why I'm trying to be all cool and pink now.

Yeah, I know I hate flying. The funniest thing about this is everybody's relationship. Everybody got a close relationship, but it's all different. So depending upon what's said, it'd be funny to see how people go respond. And that'd really be the funniest part about this shit. Nah, for sure. People ask me all the time how I got with Trump. I'm like, I actually knew everybody differently

and I hated all of y'all for different reasons. Most definitely. Like, I hated DJ first. I don't know if it was Bordo, Sevens, or... Oh, yeah, these niggas worked together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We worked at Foot Locker together. 16, 17, worked at Foot Locker. That was my second job. And DJ was already there. It was a shoe release and I was like,

yeah, I wear a 12, bro. He's like, I don't give a fuck. Like, this is mine. Like, you can't have shit. Well, the problem is that a shoe release. I was like, yeah, I wear a 12, bro. He's like, I don't give a fuck. This is mine. You can't have shit. The problem was that that Lafayette Square Foot Locker, it was four of them, bless you, that all wore 11.5, 12. I was just an associate, but 11.5 was mine. R.P. my nigga Kyle.

That was just how it went. He's like, yeah, I need this. I'm like, good luck, my nigga, bud. It wasn't no good luck. He's like, nah. He's like, well, shit. You gotta go to Foot Action or somewhere. Somebody gotta get nigga, but I'm right there to go. It wasn't no good luck. He was like, nah. He was like, well, shit. You should out of luck. You got to go to Foot Action or somewhere. Somebody got to get you, but not here.

So that's why I hated DJ for the longest. And then the funny part about this, how we connected for this was that our kids fucking, what was it, fall festivals and shit?

It was like fall festivals once did. And he was like, hey, I've been trying to get in contact with you. And I was like, damn, my bad, what's up? I was like,

your podcast fucking sucks. Y'all shit's ass. That's the first thing a nigga walked up to me and said, I've been trying to get in contact with you to tell I was like, damn, my bad. What's up? I was like, y'all podcast fucking sucks. Y'all shit's ass. That's the first nigga walked up to me and said, I've been trying to get in contact with you to tell me that y'all shit sucks. Y'all shit's terrible. I don't know why the fuck you hated me. I'm going to get to you in a second. I hated this nigga here because at the time you were signed

to Adidas, the Pharrell joints, the human race joints came out. He had like 30, 40. He had every color. He had a lot of them. I think it's a cure of me. Shout out to the Pharrell pack. Human race joints came out. He had like 30, 40. He had every color. He had a lot of them. I need to take care of me. Shout out to the Pharrell pack. I had some Stan Smiths. That's crazy. And Superstars. My mama had every color. I did. I had a Pharrell

shell toes. I had a couple colors. Red, green, yellow. I had my tumbos. Nigga, you asked for the human races. So listen though. So I know Pete and I'm like hey Pete, you think you could ask Jeff if I could buy a pair? I'll buy them reset.

Like whatever, like just let me know I want them. And y'all know, y'all know me, I don't wear Adidas at all. But at the time, I never,

I was Nike everything. That was the first Adidas I was going to buy. I was like, I'll buy those. I rock with those. I want the yellow joints. And he had plenty pairs and she takes me back and was like,'ll buy those I'll rock with those I want the yellow joints And he had plenty pairs

And she texted me back And was like He said no I was like Well damn Not like a number or nothing He just said no She was like

Yeah he said no And I hated him ever since So I mean what you want me to do I collect shoes That's really why I was like Y'all podcast fucking sucks Cause I didn't like him

That's why we used to get Them long ass Weak ass text messages He got trauma Yeah I'm like Everybody. That's why we used to get them long ass, weak ass text messages. It got trauma dude. I used to look at them text messages. See you guys tomorrow. That nigga Jeff, we talked

one day. That nigga like, bro, this nigga doing too much, bro. I'm like, yeah, fuck that lame ass nigga. It was my mic. If we put our brains together, we really work at this You guys could be so much better But you don't give a fuck enough

Yeah I ain't got love There was some real text messages though It was like I'm like What the fuck this nigga talking about man We try to drink it It's hot shit

Yeah Niggas wake up in the morning Damn you right bro And now it was fucking you Mike got us together though For sure And then being I really didn't hate being

The food was really good At my wedding I honestly I catered to this nigga wedding on my mama. Shout out to Sierra. Love, love, sis. Gave him a hell of a discount. You feel me? This nigga just for me to meet him.

He married a dickhead. No, no, the food was straight. I honestly didn't eat it, though. I know. Like I was moving around so much. I was really hungry and I was mad because somebody took him out to go play. Y'all wedding. This side note. Don't get married

outside. This nigga got married outside and this nigga got married outside. My wedding was hotter than a bitch. I don't recommend that shit at all. I don't either, nigga. I couldn't even get my one-two right. Nigga was so fucking hot. I'm like, hey, walk your ass out here. You look good, but take this

shit so we can go inside. This is fucking hot. Your shit was terrible. I got maybe involved,

but your shit was terrible. It was like 105, nigga. And it rained. And I had a little black

shit on my line. I was scared. Dude, you had to shoot. Hey, the particles. Nigga, bunch out to shoot Hey, the particles Nigga

Bunch out to my boy Case I'ma hit you with that shit Boy, you look good Boy, I said It's hot It's a fucking leak I know, but when I leak Well, that was a wrong day

I just shit it Whatever they do for that shit That shit did Boom, bro I'm like, damn That was a fucking no leak I'm just there for shit Yes, I'm about to tap in

Yeah, you had that Boozer taper. The funny shit is, my nigga Mike was at that tape with the Recession fight for his mic against that animal. He drug my nigga at the Recession. This is why I love that pie. This is why I love this pie. So look, y'all. I don't do drugs, by the way. Mike don't do drugs,

y'all. But he... I'm knowing what this nigga finna do we wanted the same with the party so I'm telling this nigga I'm like look the wedding is beautiful shout out to P you look good on your day my bro look good on his day but I'm like after when we go to this after party it's about to be lit

so I told this nigga I said he hit me like you got him oh he a dope fiend. So nigga, he got two receptions. So the ones for P, her family and shit, cool pops.

I give him that bitch at that reception. This nigga split. I said, oh. I don't remember. Oh my God. He got us at a party. He got to Twinkie. Did you go to the second one? Yeah. I said it was the top level the whole time. I'm like...

Man, what the fuck? How was you sitting up there? That shit was tired. I gave this nigga an edible. I couldn't move. When I see him in the first reception, my nigga had his... That nigga said, bro,

I don't know what's going on. I said, nigga, did you do some crack? I gave him a 20 mg edible. You gave him 20 mg? Had my nigga lifted. I was gone. Because I told him, though, I said, Mike, just take half. This shit dangerous.

Tonight, T going up. The whole city pulling up. He said, I don't feel it. Don't miss this night. This nigga was like, oh. I ate it right before dinner. Yeah. I sat down and did not give him anything.

I don't remember. I woke up at my house. It was like, I went to sleep. I took a nap. Because y'all had a little intermission. I took a nap at the crib.. I woke up at my house. It was like, I went to sleep. I took a nap because y'all had to go. A little intermission. I took a nap at the crib and I woke up

and it was like 19 niggas at my house. I was like, what the fuck are y'all doing? They was like, we gotta go to the... On everything. Everybody went home

and pre-gamed in their respective spots. We ain't gonna wake you up. That was a hell of a night, but you honestly gave me the thought of, I said, I could sell drugs.

I could really be Big Beaks. This is my first client. I got to get this. I got to have a... So you signed your first thing? And it was my audience. I could be Big Beaks. That would make you terrible.

That's actually why I don't do drugs today. Nah, for sure. That's a real life story too, y'all. My nigga thought he was going to die fucking with T. That was a lit night. Man, that shit was funny as hell. At that point, it was still like super fun when y'all was doing all that like the family stuff, the

dancing, the heritage. My nigga Mike was over there like this like... That nigga said the heritage. All I remember from that night is feeling them dead in front of the camera. Nah, I was saying, bro. Y'all was going through serious shit. My nigga Mike was over there

fighting for his life. What's the people that you ordered to perform? The people that you walked up? Mariachi Band. You know the Mariachi Band? He was hot doing a Mariachi concert.

All I remember is Kenan and them dancing in front of the camera. Bro. I was like, because they was right there. I was like,

why are these niggas dancing in front of this camera? That was a fool. That was a fool, you know. Nah, T had a great night,

but I'm like, shit, I got that. Oh, y'all niggas are stupid, bro. I was gone.

We got five dropping tomorrow, right? Yep. So let's talk about what's going on in the world today, man. I want to ask y'all this question because there's a lot of shit going on. There's some trials. There's some people, you know, some social media is finding out about a lot of different things going on with people's households. I want to ask y'all this question. At what point did y'all start judging people by what they post?

And I want to preface this by saying, like, you know, we all adults now, right? But you see how people respond to certain stuff. At what point do you be like, I can't separate your takes from who you really are? I knew Instagram and shit was fake a long time ago. Because I know people in real life. So to see them post certain shit

to try to appease the world was kind of crazy to me. So I've been in shit since 2014. I knew the world was bullshit. Yeah, I knew Instagram was fake when I would see people in person. Like the shit we was talking about with Mike. Yeah.

That's when I started. I never believed Instagram since then. I remember I seen somebody, they had a gut out this world. And on Instagram, that motherfucker was crazy. I'm like, yeah. Sex. Nah.

You know what's crazy about that, bro? Me and DJ, shout out to whatever the first week of IU is. A to Z. A to Z. Yeah. This young lady still comes to my parties. This was years ago. I mean, before I got in my situation. But I ran into Shorty at the comes to my parties. This was years ago.

I mean, before I got in my situation. But I ran into Shorty at the ADZ party. And it wasn't that. She was big as a house. That bitch was built like me. But them angles on Instagram was elites. I want to say her name so bad, but I'm not. Nope. No, I'm not.

But DJ know. And I thought I was going to crack that night. Because I'm like, I tell him, bro, pick me up. I'm like, damn. I'm about to see this bitch tonight. She there. And mind you, me and DJ had one of the GO pregames. Shouts to my cousin Q.

All hard hoes at our pregame. That's a fact. But this one right here Was Urchin Jerk available or? It was on the brings. It just dropped. Oh my nigga we was drinking 99 bananas. Yeah. But I had seen Shorty to T point like and that's

that blew me bro. So yeah. Shout out to that. Everybody always posted this shit on Instagram. I mean obviously people go on their rants and do and, you know, upload all their business and shit.

I never been that kind of person. But I hate when people do that. Like, whatever happened in your house, stay in your house. Keep it cool. Nah, yeah. But I know everybody

lying on Instagram. Like, you see people with fake flight, like, shout out to our new guest. I can't wait to ask him. Oh, Bow Wow. 520.

But when you had the Bow Wow challenge and all that shit, I was like, yeah, this shit crazy. Nah, that's different. And you know what? I tricked the Instagram a long time ago. I don't give a fuck about what you post. I want some tag posts. I want to see what your friends think.

You're not the main character. That's when you see what's real. Shit, I ain't even thought of that before. I ain't that deep into social media. Hit them tag posts. You can see real. When that nigga Fendi hopped out of that helicopter that was close.

I was like, yeah, I hate Instagram, bro. I ain't just saying it, bro. That nigga hopped off the side. Yeah. But the cameraman cut it before. He didn't have a good take. Nah, for sure. I don't know what's worse, that or Bow Wow. I can still have it. Nah, probably

Bow Wow, for sure. But I hate Facebook. That's why I don't know what's worse, that or Bow Wow. Are you still laughing? Nah, probably Bow Wow for sure. But I hate Facebook. That's why I don't got a Facebook. Yeah. Because Facebook is like our TMZ, our RTV6 news type shit. That's where people go and get their shit off for real. That's what I was going to lead to. I don't got Facebook.

It's like Facebook and Twitter is bad because you see people's like real opinions about shit. And like at this age, you'd be like, all right, cool. Some shit is funny, but some shit would be like, all right, nigga, you opinions about shit. And, like, at this age, you'd be like, alright, cool, some shit is funny, but some shit would be like, alright, nigga, you joking about this stuff going on, but nigga, you have kids, like, daughters and shit. Like, you have a mom, you have a daughter. Like, some of that shit be weird to me, like, alright, bro, I can't really separate this from you no more. Like, this might be who you really are.

Now, Facebook the devil. Motherfucker, I know, which is in that bitch on Facebook, nigga, a girl walked in to her house with her nigga cracking a girl that I know, bro. And put it on Facebook, nigga. A girl walked in to her house with her nigga cracking a girl that I know, bro. They put it on Facebook? On my life. Oh, they put it on Facebook? They put it on Facebook. Swear to God. Why?

That's why it's different. Facebook is just the worst. Yeah, that's a different world. I mean, YouTube, y'all rank the worst between Facebook, Instagram, and all that shit, and Twitter, but I think Facebook is literally the worst, bro. I don't have Facebook, Twitter. That's why I don Facebook is literally the worst. I don't have Facebook. That's why I don't have it, though. I don't have Facebook, Twitter.

I love Twitter. Twitter's the best place on earth. I got Instagram. I downloaded Snapchat because Keenan always send me or Snapchat or one of them. He always send like links to shit.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. TikTok, all that shit. I love TikTok, bro. I don't got that shit, though. You a TikTok shopper. Yeah, I was going to say you are. The TikTok shop, I just bought a Sharon Scrubber from that motherfucker. I said you posted it. I said my nigga get an ad deal. Yeah, and I

bought an iron off that motherfucker. An iron? Yeah, I bought an iron. It do. That motherfucker steam the shit, boy. Steam the shit out of you. Boy, it straighten you out. you hear me so yo that's crazy crazy word

I wasn't on the purpose before that but it's funny cause when that TikTok man was locked in his boys was shook I ain't gonna lie I was sick they can take my Instagram

I fuck Instagram but that TikTok bro that hurt my heart bro every essential I have bro comes from TikTok bro legit bro what they gonna do with the Cavs, man? I mean, the Warriors

just lost. They did. What we gonna do with the Warriors, man? Man, they in such a tough spot, because like Steph should be playing for championships or not right now, and I don't know if that's what they on. And I don't know if Steph want to leave or not. Would you call this a successful year,

or would you be like, I mean, for the Warriors standards, obviously it's not a successful year, but do you think it's a, they had a good year? I would. From where they started and where they were

all-star break when they had Dennis Shorter to now, most definitely. Most definitely. Nah, that's a definitely, definitely successful year.

They still got Jimmy. Nah, a thousand percent, bro. I think they gonna shake back next year though. So who you got in the Western Conference Finals? You got OKC versus Wolves, or you got?

I got OKC. OK. Because that's what it is. OKC versus Wolves? Yeah. You don't think Denver will take it to seven? I don't got Denver taking it to seven. I got OKC prevailing.

What you got, Mike? You know good and damn well. We know you don't give a fuck. I'm watching no basketball. I don't give a fuck I don't watch no basketball I don't give a fuck for two years in this pod you still ain't tapped in yet nah

I ain't know all the the players the highlights the stats and everything because I got to but I don't give a damn damn

who you got DJ okay see you think I think we gonna get Shea versus A man I think that's gonna be a fire matchup okay but who y'all

alright that's I'm perfect that was like a great transition who are you taking if you can start in a team you taking A.E. or Shay A.E. yeah I know

who I'm picking bro who I don't yeah yeah I know yeah I know I was on A.E. A.E. training

for everybody Mike if you would just yeah obviously this is perfect because you don't like basketball A.E. is a personality so you would take A.E. to because you don't like basketball. AE has a personality. So you would take AE to start your franchise?

Yeah. But I'm not mad at if somebody takes Shea. I told y'all, bro. He's just not rah-rah like y'all like. From a money aspect or like a basketball

performance aspect? Just like, you could take Shea to start your franchise. AE. Who you taking? Who you taking? I'm taking AE.

It's not even close to me. Damn. He too polarizing over a person. Yeah, like Shea would be like, who you talking about it's not even close to me damn he too polarized yeah like Shea would be like I love his game as a basketball player but he'd be like 20th on my list if I take the start of a run show hell nah Jeff if you had a list of players in front of you

I think you would see that differently 20 is crazy I would take Luka Doncic I just seen how City fucking damn near killed somebody because he left. So you literally love him. He's loved wherever you go. So I'm taking Luka. Easy.

I see how much people love Tyrese Halliburton in Indiana. Nah, he don't. I'm telling you, bro. It's not that he's a better player. Hey, shout out to Reesey Cup, bro. But I'm nothing, bro. What I'm saying is, listen, it's not that he's a better player. Hey, shout out to Reesey Cup, bro. But I'm nothing, bro. What I'm saying is, listen, it's not that Tyrese is nowhere near a better player than Shea. But it's something about Tyrese that people like or hate.

And that's enough to keep people. I love Tyrese's game, actually. I ain't never been on the hate side. I think that, I just talked about this too. I think that hate from his peers fueled his game. And it was good for the Pacers. It's something like nobody everybody knows Shea is nice

but nobody like you don't hear like everybody but he cold his game is nice the peers we all know he cold but like fans you gotta like OKC you gotta be from Oklahoma to be like yeah that's my guy. I might be biased because I was on that train. Yeah but but like,

even still, if I had to pick a team, LeBron would still get picked before the show. Yeah, because that's Brian. Steph, KD, but remove all them old hits. James Harden, Kawhi. No, I wouldn't pick James Harden over the show. But I'm saying, you said

20, bro. It's not 20 players better than the show. No way. Like, you said 20, bro. It's not 20 players better than Shea. No way. Like, Victor, Wimbyana. Wimby. You would say Wimby. I'm taking Wimby.

Jason Tatum. No. He all right, bro. To start my team? You taking Shea? I love Jason. I'm shitty. My nigga tore his

whatever he tore. He can't get a... Shout out to Sergeant Hill. Yeah, for sure. I'm shitty he can't get a... Shout out to Sergeant Hill. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure he can't get MVP this year. No, I'm not. Man, yo, right. Damn.

Yo. Shay a leader, bro. Jason Tatum a leader, but it's different. Shay working with Les, bro. Yeah, but it's just like... For real, them is regular niggas, bro. No disrespect to the NBA games. Like, everybody in the NBA can hoop, but what Shea playing with, bro?

Bro, he's overachieving, bro. You taking Jalen Brunson or you taking Shea? I'm taking Shea. Start your team. Taking Shea. If Shea had motherfucking Kat and Mikel Bridges and OG, bro, they raw. Them niggas is better than OKC talent-wise. I'm taking Jalen Brunson because the pressure to play in New York

is so much greater than playing OKC. He got his dad bigger than New York. I'm just saying, everybody not built for that. I'm not saying Shay not. I'm not saying we ain't never seen him. But it's different structure, bro. People don't even put respect in name to be like on you or nothing but nigga you grew up like jaylen brunson it just wasn't filmed your pops

was just like motherfucking that yeah i heard that news yeah it's the tv yeah i'm just saying your pops was just like that so that's different bro that's different then what new york gives jaylen brunson nigga he like, my pops was way worse than that. Just like you. That's why you were so good with different type of coaches, nigga. Because your dad was motherfucking goddamn Joe Jackson, nigga. Oh, God. That's what I'm saying.

I don't know what Shay Lenny is. I don't either. I mean, I seen his pops on Gilbert Show. His pops seemed like he was a real nigga. Yeah. No, I probably saw that. But I'm saying it's just that when you growing up different like that, I seen his pops on a Gilbert show. His pops seemed like he was a real nigga. Yeah, well, no, I probably saw that, but I'm saying it's just that when you growing up different like that, I just... Shea, to me, what he got, I don't know, Jalen Brunson,

is that type of player to take them young niggas. You got Kat, Michael Bridges, OG, bro, that's a... You got a whip. You still the leader, but damn, bro. Like, that nigga took less money for a reason. Yeah still the leader, but damn, bro. Like, that nigga took less money for a reason. Yeah, but he's still, like, the focal point. Like, he's still the one. Like, nigga, he's

shooting 14 times. He's had a kiss of the locks. You know, he's shooting 14, yeah. He's shooting 14 times in a row in the fourth quarter. Like, you got cat on your team. Like, nah, nigga, watch out. Yeah. Cause even I look at them last year, like, even though, you know, something they came up short against us and he was dominant

he got the city back rocking now it's a discount shake cause Shayton's like you said doing a lot but listen

Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks bro he do not he got it way more lit than when Melo was there yeah bro and Melo had squats

Melo had that aura too he did but he Melo aura different it ain't bigger than it ain't bigger than Jalen had squats. Mello had that aura too. He did. Mello aura different. It ain't bigger than Jalen. It is. The aura is. In New York? Nah, fam. Mello himself or...

Mello himself, listen. Mello aura in New York is way bigger than Jalen Brunson aura in New York right now. Oh, no, bro. They just said... Jalen Brunson is winning for sure and that's good for the city, but

if you just take them as people... Yeah, that's because... Oh, yeah, Mellow's bigger than Jalen Brunson for sure. Mellow is bigger than Jalen Brunson, bro. Mellow been famous since we was fucking 14. That's what I'm saying. That's when I called Oral. But you said in New York. Yes, in New York.

They said this is the biggest. Melo was losing in New York, bro. And he was still the biggest nigga, bro. Still the biggest nigga. That's just New York. Yeah, that's the Oral. But they said he's the biggest free agent signing in New York Knicks history. I'm not mad at that.

That's coming from a basketball perspective. I'm talking about overall. If Jalen Brunson walk down the street in New York right now and Melo walk down the street, they're going to be like, J.B. I swear to God. He got the Knicks lit.

He do, bro, but it's a lot of niggas with him. He the biggest for the Knicks right now. I'm telling you, Melo's popularity, that aura is different, bro. Melo is that nigga. Jalen Brunson works so fucking hard to get where he is now. Jalen Brunson

is a blue-collar nigga. I'm not saying Melo is just a spoon-fed nigga, but it's different, bro. Melo is getting compared to LeBron, bro. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, what Jalen Brunson been in New York? Three years? Two years? He might go down as the best player, but I swear to God, if they wasn't winning. In two years, he surpassed everything Melo did.

Yeah, because so far, it's just winning basketball. I'm saying, give him his same numbers and Melo's record. Melo is bigger. That's what I'm saying. You can't do that. You can, though. The personality. What he did for the Knicks, that's what people would dream for Melo to do.

They're like, we wish Melo would have did that. And it's unfortunate because Melo got a different version of James Cohen, too. Yeah. He got dealt a totally different head. No, no, no. And that's not Jalen Brunson's fault. And he had to work with Phil Jackson and shit.

That's not Jalen Brunson. I'm talking Jalen Brunson because he took that pay cut and believed in his team to get them to where they is. Jalen Brunson understood the assignment to bring New York to where they is. Melo was like, shit, I'm just trying to get paid in a big market. It's two different swags, bro. But I'm saying, and I got the utmost

respect for Melo. I think he won the coldest players ever. The thing is, Jalen Brunson did that shit when New York was not popping. Melo went to New York and they was actually good. Did they hear what Amari did?

Yeah, they was actually hooping. Like, Amari really got the Knicks rolling. Yeah, bro, And the shirt was cool. But then Melo came

and he like lit a fire with all this shit popping like New York. New York lit. They got Melo, they got Amari. But it was never lit like this, bro.

And they betrayed him and betrayed his two best role players. Yeah, I'm just telling y'all, Melello was lit because they were still losing, and that nigga was still scoring 50 points on all two points. Yeah, but it ain't look like this. That was NBC. We watched, nigga.

We argued at your house, bro, when Mello played against goddamn D-Rose, bro. It's different, bro. It ain't like this, though. It ain't like this, bro. You think Jalen Brunson is just as big as the superstars Carmelo and Anthony? In New York? Yes, right now? Yes.

As in the damn, bro. It's not. Like, the only nigga that was bigger than New York than Jalen Brunson is right now was Jeremy Lin. And I swear, nobody was bigger

than Jeremy Lin. Yeah, because he got a cheat code. He got all the other people with him. Nigga, that shit wasn't even close. Yeah, because he's a foreigner, bro.

Yeah, but I'm just saying that shit wasn't close. How we talking about Jalen? I mean, he got a cheat code. Yeah, he got a cheat code, that shit wasn't even close. Yeah, because he's a foreigner, bro. Yeah, but I'm just saying that shit wasn't close. How we talking about y'all mean he got a cheat code. Yeah, he got a cheat code, but Jalen Brunson... He like to blooper it. Yes, bro.

Jalen Brunson got that same type of... Jeremy Lin effect? Fuck no. No, no, I'm talking about like he getting that same... Jeremy Lin was off the charts. Like he was the most

famous nigga in the NBA. Yeah, that Lin Sanity mellowed. Yeah, like he made a movie off that shit. Yeah, let me say that. He ain't gonnaanity. Yeah, like, he made a movie off that shit. Yeah, let me say that. He ain't going to get no... No, nigga, he was bigger than Kobe

for them two weeks, bro. Yeah. Like, nigga was the biggest person in the world. We went to play the nigga. It had to be 100, 200 cameras under the room when he was shooting for warm-ups, bro. I've never seen nothing like that shit. I'm like, this shit is crazy.

Did he kill against y'all? Yeah, he killed. He got a hell of a game But Mello came Yeah Mello had came back So it was like I mean he probably had like 18 and like 7 or 18 and 10

Whatever it was He had a good game But Mello had came back So Yeah you know what I'm talking about Yeah you know I mean he kind of was hated A little bit

But Yeah I ain't mad at that I ain't mad at that I just stand with I stand with Mello Nah I love Mello too Cause J't mad at that I just stand with I stand with Melo bro Nah

I love Melo too Cause Jalen Brunson I just don't think Jalen Brunson has that If Jalen Brunson was like AE It'd be different Jalen Brunson is just a killer

Oh Jalen Brunson had an attitude Like AE Yeah it'd be different bro Bro he'd be Nigga he'd be Michael Jordan If Jalen Brunson came out of the game And called somebody sad as fuck bro Them New York fans would Eat that shit up But bro He's a silent killer He kill it'll be Michael Jordan. If Jalen Brunson came out of the game and called somebody sad as fuck, bro,

them New York fans would eat that shit up. But, bro, he's a silent killer. He kill and he do little shit that make you be like. So if he goes to the finals, he the biggest

since Pat Ewing. Bro, he bigger than Pat. He take the Knicks to the finals right now. He bigger than Pat? He bigger. For this generation, probably. He bigger than Pat Ewing.

The OGs ain't gonna go for that shit, but for this generation, they gonna do it. The OGs gonna be like, y'all niggas got Pat. Fuck them. Bigger than Pat. The OGs ain't going to go for this shit. But for this generation, they're going to go. The OGs going to ride. The OGs going to ride. The OGs going to be like, y'all niggas got Pat. Fuck them.

They're going to crash out. But nigga, OGs going to ride with Pat. But, yeah. The real nigga, Allen Houston was killing, bro. Like, Pat was. Allen Houston was a good player. Larry Johnson. That's the real bucket.

Mike don't know nothing about Allen. He don't know who. Allen Houston had one of the best. Allen Houston could walk right past Mike right now. Yeah, but like, Jalen Brunson, bro. Mike right now. Yeah, but like Jalen Brunson, bro. Like, every... Bro, I love Jalen Brunson. I love Melo to death,

but Melo wasn't doing what Jalen Brunson's doing in the fourth quarter, bro. No, bro. Clutch buckets? Bro. Melo was like that team. He is.

I think it's because niggas is winning and Jalen Brunson is earning his contract for sure, for sure. And if Melo played in this era, Melo would kill. Melo would be probably one of the

top three players. At this point in the pod is when I would be Googling and searching up stats when Melo played in New York. Melo would be killing this league. His stats are better than Jalen Brunson's. Melo played in New York. Yeah, Melo will be killing this league. His stats are better than Jalen Brunson's. Melo played in a different era where scoring is more prevalent now, so he'll be killing.

But I can't compare it because he don't play. You know what I mean? No, you're right. If it's me, I'd be like, damn, I probably would have been a better player if I played now than when I played because you could do shit that I grew up doing. But shout out to Mello though. And you ain't disrespecting him or nothing. It's not about respect. Don't clip to something weird.

Yeah, you know how people get weird on YouTube and shit. But I'm saying though like Jalen Brunson really got a better team, bro. Is it really better? Yes, bro. Because John Cena was cool. Yeah, bro. John Cena was cool, bro. But this team was J.R. Smith is better than...

Who? Everybody else on their team. Besides Cat. And Amari's not... It matters, bro. Amari's not... Amari barely played with Rondo Teague. It's different.

With Melo? With Melo. Yeah, he barely played. He just got dumbed down. He was hurt, but he got dumbed down a little bit with Melo there. I'm saying you got J.R. Smith. You got Iman Shumpert. Shumpert was just as good as Josh Hurt.

The white boy that shot threes. Steve Novak. Steve Novak. Steve Novak. Come on, bro. Fuck no. Melo didn't even have a big team. Tyson Chandler was on their team.

What? Come on, bro. And I love TC. TC is the reason why Dallas won the championship. Is Dallas and UCLA better than Mitchell Robinson? Bro, all day. What are we talking about? All day.

What are we talking about? They said that Cat is better than Tyson Chandler. Well, they had Amari. They had Amari. Yeah, bro, but Amari didn't play. Come on, keep it real, bro. Mikel Bridges and OG Anobi, bro, is a better duo than fucking Shumpert

And J.R. Smith On some real shit Yeah I mean J.R. is just good And I fuck with Iman and J.R. But to have two wings Like that is crazy bro Niggas got seven foot wings man bro And guard up any position

But Mello one of them wings It's really Mello and J.R. Smith against. Jalen Brunson gets to relax, bro. Because he can take some nights off. The first game against the Celtics, OG looked like the best player on the floor.

With JB and everybody out there. Who was the point guard for the Knicks? Chauncey Billups played PG. Raymond Felt was a PG. He got traded for Mello. One of my favorite point guards. He got traded for Mello. Did he?

I don't even know who led that. That's what I'm saying. We don't even know who led that team. Only point guard I remember playing with. They did have OJ Kid. Come on, man. Niggas got better when they left New York. Maybe it was something in New York.

Because J.K. was on that Maverick squad, too. With Tyson Chandler. The only point guard I remember really playing with Melo, bro, is legit Chauncey Billows on YouTube. I know y'all check everything. Check that. They had older guards in New York. That's a fact.

I mean, they had an older team. You don't remember them matchups? They had an older team. I mean, Melo had an older team. Yes, bro. That's different. That's what I'm saying. Jalen Brunson is literally rocking with niggas that he's around his age group.

Like, come on, man. Mikel Bridges is really one of the best fucking wings in the NBA. Top 10 wing in the NBA. I'm not saying their team wasn't better. But what he doing with that team? Because, nigga, they don't get the ball like that. Nigga, when it's all the way to the moon, nigga, they get a ball to Jalen Brunson. You don't give it to your killer.

What you say about Joe? Joe say, I do y'all thing. These first three quarters, this fourth quarter, nigga, give me the peel. What I'm saying saying you doing that. He earned that. Nigga, I took a $100 million cut. Give me the fucking ball.

But listen, the legal could do. You doing that. You think Mike is taking a $100 million cut for us? Listen. I would. Listen.

Oh, nigga. I'm not taking that. But listen, he doing that in the fourth quarter. He said he about to be in the Eastern Conference Finals. It's like you can't... He lit, bro. Is Jalen Brunson

better than Tyler? I mean, Tyler. Tyrese Halliburton. Yes. He got to beat him, though. They about to meet up. He got to beat him. But I mean, they did get their ass beat tonight, so Celtics might be on to something, but Jalen Brunson, bro, he got, bro, his people in New York, bro, telling him,

bro, y'all don't got to do nothing else, bro. You did enough. We love you. Like, bro, they going to retire his jersey already, bro. To pivot this conversation, I want to ask y'all this question. Of the remaining people left, we got a lot of people who could be first-time champions.

Between Halliburton, JBA, and Shea, I mean, we ain't gonna count out, okay, I mean, Denver, but just amongst those,

who would the championship mean the most to? Jalen Bronson. Okay. Because of Knicks? New York. If he want a chip in New York, bro. He's forever good

no matter what. He's forever good now, but if he want a chip in New York, bro, he... He gonna mean the most. Bro, he gonna...

They might put a statue up, bro. They got to, though. He'd be the most polarizing figure ever, just because of the market. If OKC, if Shea wins NBA championship, it wouldn't look nowhere near Jalen Bronson. Nobody give a fuck about Oklahoma City, bro. What about A?

That's a... A would be lit, but nobody... Yeah, it's the same. It's like Giannis won the chip. Nah, it ain't. That's a good point, too, but it's like, if Shea like Giannis Winning the chip Nah it ain't That's a good point too But it's like If Shay wins it On my mama He gonna get treated Like Kawhi Leonard

In Toronto Yeah Real shit Giannis in New York New York If Pat Ewing Would've won in New York bro Pat Ewing would've never

Put on the Orlando Magic jersey Yeah bro Real shit So is everybody With DJ counting The Pacers out? I'm not counting them out. I'm not. I think they can win.

I love DJ. If you win a ring in New York, you a guy, bro. If Tyrese Halliburton win, I'm on my mama, that's a Kawhi Leonard championship. If we win a championship, they're going to say we don't give a fuck. They're going to say they didn't give a fuck. The three other teams in this Final Four that we think

of Denver don't win, Minnesota, OK don't say they can't win. There are three other teams in this final four that we think of. Denver don't win. Minnesota. OKC. Indiana. Small market teams. Nobody give a fuck. Nobody gonna give a fuck.

That's how the NBA works. Yeah. So New York they beat Boston. They the only team. But I ain't gonna lie. It's lit in Indiana if Tyrese bring a shit

for us. Because we from there. If Tyrese Tyler Burton puts a shit in Gainesbridge bro. You have to give him he is the greatest pacer of all time. Nobody gonna give a fuck. Nobody's gonna give a shit. If Tyreek Tyler Byrne puts a chip in Gainesbridge, bro. You have to give him he is the greatest pacer of all time. Ain't nobody gonna give a fuck.

Nobody's gonna give a shit. If the pacer's an OKC make it to the finals, it's gonna be the least watched finals ever. Oh, yeah. You think the draft line was rigged now? Boy, they're gonna make sure. Like, that shit gonna be You remember when, who was that? The Knicks and the Spurs played or something? Did nobody watch the finals? Yeah. It's gonna be worse than that.

I agree. That shit ain't Did nobody watch the finals? Yeah. It's going to be worse than that. I agree. That shit, ain't nobody going to watch the finals, bro. I agree, but I think it's good for anybody. That's why the NBA need New York. It'll be good for our city

because niggas don't remember when the Colts won the Super Bowl. It was quiet. But Peyton Manning was so polarized. That was when he murdered her. It was, but it was really quiet, y'all.

It was probably, it's definitely me. I donall. It was probably definitely mid. Me and my niggas drove downtown. It probably was weak as fuck. It was. But only A.E. It was quiet. A.E. can say the finals.

Either Jalen Brunson or A.E. can say the finals. But if it's OKC in Indiana, bro, that shit is not. Ain't no telling what A.E. gonna do if he win. But A.E. playing in the finals, it's gonna be... Ain't no telling what A.E. gonna do if he win. But A.E. playing in the finals, it's gonna be... Because he gonna start saying shit. You know why we here. But if it's Indiana and OKC, filthy.

Yeah, because A.E. winning the championship, I'm better than all y'all niggas. Now what's up? Yeah. Niggas tell Obama, nigga. Yeah. Yeah, like, he talking. Like, he like that. I am like that. They know that.

You tell the president that, bro? And then looked at him like he offended me. Like, nigga, what the fuck is you talking about? I'm rolling. Y'all don't bother for that. Because Obama out of pocket. Hey, what's the nigga that played for the Philadelphia Eagles? I think his name was Knox, Cox, Pauls Cox He was like a defensive tackle

For the Philadelphia Eagles Back in the day I don't know I think his name was like something Cox But he was like That's a wild ass name But he was like good But when Bush was the president He came walking by He was like I heard you're a Cowboys fan He was like good but uh when bush was the president he came walking by he was like

i heard you a cowboys fan he's like who told you that how you know that he was like we about to beat their ass and don't worry don't worry about gonna beat their ass too what you talking about i was like damn fletcher cox isn't that shot to fletcher cox yeah he was like you're gonna beat their ass i was like yeah i like them kind of niggas no for sure for sure because i don't give a fuck about you walking across the field. But I'm saying, A-win, the NBA in trouble.

Oh, yeah. Y'all thought sending the video was bad. It is. And with that being said, my nigga going to go crazy next year and I can't wait. Nah, for sure.

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Go ahead, pop your shit. Where do y'all think y'all would be without me? Man, get the fuck out here. Origin story of the Freaky Mike. Back when I passed. Wait, wait, wait.

Does that mean y'all wouldn't be here right now? Nah, you helped us a lot and I think like we on our way to being a big, big, big media company here soon,

bro, with y' your help. So, we appreciate you. Shout out to Freaky Mike. You be doing some fuck shit sometimes, but we appreciate you. Nah, I'll be honest, bro. I don't think this podcast will work if you weren't a part of it. That's true. That's a fact. Alright, bro. DJ, turn. Nah, I'll give you your flowers all the time, bro. Especially

from a business aspect, the things we get done, bro. A lot of stuff would not get done because of how persistent you are. We're having conversations with people. We handle business. I always give you a flower snap. That's why he book our Ubers and all that shit. That's why when we go out to eat, no matter who's with us, he pulls out his car. So he earns his keepers.

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