Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on Victor Wembanyama's championship future, DeSean Jackson response, NBA Media Day
Episode Date: October 3, 2024We’re back with Season 2, Episode 107 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys REACT to the best of NBA Media Day including: LeBron James and Bronny, Victor Wembanyama and Kevin Durant playing in... his 17th season. And Teague and the squad respond to DeSean Jackson talking about Jeff on The Underground Lounge Podcast with Lou Williams. Jeff, DJ and B Hen also remember Dikembe Mutombo after his passing earlier this week. Plus the fellas discuss Project Pat, T-Pain, and look back on Jeff's career at Wake Forest as a score-first PG. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, man, we back. Another wonderful episode of Club 520. I'm the host. My name is DJ.
Well, same gang with me to my left. My dog, Bishop, be here now at the Prileys. How you
doing, Nasty? Cool and nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Back to a fully recovered.
I see, you know, you came working uniform and everything
okay i appreciate it it's time you know i mean running back to hendrix experience outfit
hey that's when you know hey when you had a good ass time that you're running to fit back
that's how you know i just got out the cleaners this morning so you know we good to go october
27th halloween bash 6 to 10 That's a Sunday And I'm gonna be
Giving out some money
To the you know
Motherfucker who come
With the best Halloween costume
Okay
Giving the white money
At the Hendricks experience
Turn up
That's what we doing
It's like you know
He getting too much money now
And they're giving the white money
And then the second place
When I'm gonna get y'all
You know
That'll be like a diamond package
A free diamond package
For the next one
So yeah
We gonna do that.
Sign me up, Dan.
That's better than the fantasy football results.
Nah, bro.
It's just people that fuck with me, I'm giving back.
That's what I'm supposed to do.
For sure.
For sure.
To my right, my dog, young Nacho, young Teague.
How you doing, man?
Chilling, bro.
Yeah, I'm hating, bro.
You got the Salahi's on there.
I ain't even going to let you introduce him because I'm hating him.
You got the Salahi joint song.
That's crazy.
Yeah, man.
Shout out to my guy, man.
He showed love, man.
He sent me a package and some other stuff at the crib.
But we got the Kroc joints, too.
He's kind of fire to me.
But the New Balances is hard.
So much love to bro.
He sent me the package.
I had to rock him.
Probably get some pictures for the gram or whatever.
Start me up.
Him is tough.
I like how everybody's embracing New Balances like they should be.
You know what I'm saying?
New Balances have been solid for a very long time period.
But you got guys like Salehi, Joe Fresh Goods.
They be dropping heat every single year.
And them is tough, man.
Them is tough.
Them my top five.
I ain't going to lie.
You fuck with them tough like that?
Them my top five.
I know he be shitting on them.
But for me, I still, that gray 574 is still fire to me.
It ain't something you should be wearing all the time.
But I'm fucking with it, bro.
The gray 574 and that fucking with it, bro. The gray 574
and that gray 990, bro.
Those are classic silhouettes, bro.
Shout out to them.
Shout out to them.
He said,
I'm never wearing the Fila's
or the 574.
Nah, bro.
Yeah.
They cool, bro.
I don't know.
I just,
niggas say silhouette,
I think it's something else.
Oh, okay.
He's a freak, shout out to the silhouette challenge hell niggas down
like that motherfucker body thing they used to move downtown
that being your influence
is crazy
hey man we gotta start
off the show man
R.I.P. to Kimbae Matumbo
man
damn
it's crazy man
Deke
it's so funny
cause like obviously
we know him
from his playing days
and shit like that
but I always associate him
with Team T
cause I remember the year
that y'all had the Matumbos
and y'all was like
the only people on earth
who had them
but everybody had them
fucking sure
the whole squad
had the Matumbos shout out to Adidas back in the day brother it was showing love and y'all was like the only people on Earth who had them, but everybody had them fucking shots. The whole squad had them with tumbo.
Oh, that was hard.
Shout out to Adidas back in the day, brother.
It was showing love.
Miss my black and red joints.
But shout out to Deke, man.
He was a good dude.
I used to know him in Atlanta.
He always showed love.
He'd come in the locker room, talk shit with us,
had a good time all the time.
Always smiling, always encouraging.
He was cool as hell.
Yeah,
you can tell
like everybody
fucked with him.
Like,
he always had
good rapport
with everybody.
I mean,
shit,
we already,
on the court,
he wasn't no slouch,
you know what I'm saying?
One of the best defenders,
rim protectors you could have.
Yeah.
I mean,
I always laugh
like when you see
certain players
in different eras
at different times,
it's like,
every time they have
like Michael Jordan
talking shit
at the All-Star game,
it was like always
with him or like Larry.
I thought that was
always dope
that he was just
always around, even when he was with the Sixers, like, he was like always with him or like Larry. I thought that was always dope that he was just always around.
Even when he was with the Sixers,
like,
it was still relevant
going crazy for a while, man.
Nah, people fuck with Deke, man.
He was cool for sure.
He had a couple cold throwbacks
back in the day, too.
That Hawks throwback was fire.
And that Nuggets boy was raw.
Ah, yeah, bro.
He got,
that Nuggets was fire.
The Navy one is nasty.
I fuck with it.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah.
Shout out to my tumble, man.
Even the one you can,
you know what I'm saying,
what you call it,
the June jersey,
the rainbow joint.
That one's against you too?
Yeah, February and June.
We can't keep adding February.
I love how we just make up
our own shit
and niggas just run with it.
That's what he's in.
But nah,
he definitely got some crazy jerseys, man.
R.I.P., man.
Last but not least,
R.I.P., John Amos.
Did y'all look at y'all check the picture? I said y'all
No, please look I'm not looking no, please
I'll show you run it
No, I don't play like that why are you you up there with the... Just read the caption.
Read the caption.
Remember I put the pussy on you.
Bro.
Oh, that's what she said?
No, you have to read it.
Bro, what?
He was paralyzed.
No.
But she paralyzed him. Man, she out of pocket bro hey man let john abel's crack at that age is wild anyway
she lied i think it was like 85 let me who
his kids must not be shit.
They supposed to smack her.
Bitch,
don't ever speak
on my pops like that.
I think what's crazy
is,
you know what I'm saying,
like,
obviously,
one day we all
gonna have our time,
but the thing is,
hey,
when I die,
don't do no
watch over that Friday.
Do not get on Facebook
spilling secrets.
Don't be making up shit.
I mean,
sometimes if you
had some pressure,
that motherfucker
gets a start
from your feet up
and come up
it's hard to get
them out of there
you know God
saw me at that point
don't bring my shit
over
and don't put
no caption up
like that
you can just
give me R.I.P.
but she write
with a nigga
for the spit up
like a newborn
shit
you be stuck
what's wrong
why she write that
she crazy that She crazy
That's crazy bro
You can't do that to people bro
But no
R.I.P. John Amos
Yeah man
R.I.P. man
Good times
Good times bro
I never watched Good Times
How the hell bitch was weak though
Fuck
You didn't watch Good Times
Nah
It was tough
Good Times was a classic show
Wait who was weak
The wife
Aw damn
That's what made me not like
You know I love
All women rock your hair How you supposed to But that Lil Fro shit The one that was Fro Wait, who was we? The wife. Oh, damn. That's what made me not like, you know, I love all women.
Rock your hair how you supposed to, but that little fro shit.
The Florida Evans fro?
She blew it for all of you.
What's worse, the Florida Evans fro or the Webby fro?
Florida.
We ain't going to do Webster like that.
All right.
Webster fro is iconic, bro.
All right.
They still got that motherfucker.
Yeah, it's iconic, bro.
Or Miss Winslow. What? I'm nailing Miss Winslow
what I'm kneeling Miss Winslow
you kneeling here
off the dribble like that
putting her on the cross
you ever seen when the Wayans brothers redid the good times
and they had it with the neck
like
I ain't bothered
this shit all week
childs and everything
had that with the fucking neck she like that nigga with no neck for real I ain't bothered in shit all week since I've been here child's a dad we don't fucking
have that
we don't fucking
neck
she like that
nigga with no neck
for real
no neck
J
trash
that shit was funny
who else was in there
but uh
Jenna was in there
right
yeah
Gunsmoke
she was for sure
Gunsmoke
on that
JJ
you ever seen that video
When Janet was dancing on dude
And she
They had him chained up
Like he was locked up to the
Yeah
Wow it crashed out
It crashed out
I told y'all boy
What nigga
She was going
Boy like that extreme shit
Extreme shit is crazy
Extreme restraint
It's game C Extreme Hey if y'all get bored extreme restraint extreme
hey if y'all get bored
type in extreme restraint
that was crazy
I can't even blame you
cause Justin Timberlake
crashed that
that nigga liked her so much
he's telling her titties
to the world
that was crazy
but like bro
she's feeling
you typed in extreme restraint
no
I was like bro
that's wild about to be all type of wild you gotta in extreme restraint I was like bro that's wild
about to be all type of wild
you gotta search
lawnmower for shit like that
he said gunspoke
and I'm like
General Jackson was like
10 on good time
but it's okay
yeah
she was older
he was a kid too
King Combs
she was not 10 on good time
she was older
no she was like 8 bro
the fact check is making it better
but he was young
he was young too
I moved past
it was okay King Com. I moved past it.
It was okay.
King Combs, I told you you got new allegations.
She's like, see.
That's like, but see, no, but I'm saying, though, and I'm saying she grew up on the show,
but I'm saying that's like us talking about girls that was cute when we was younger, bro.
I understand.
We're on the same page.
No smut on your name.
I just was like.
I mean, yeah, that's why I'm colossal.
You tried to, though.
You tried.
That should have been your first instinct I got babies I just can't get the fuck out of here that's what the internet was gonna do to you I'm trying to help you nah
we talking about
when she grew up
god damn
when she was in Denver
and you're Sursky
you know I have a song
for y'all in a little bit
I can't think of that
slow jump I used to bump
while Janet was cold
nah matter of fact
I can't think of the name
of her in Busta Rhymes
had a classic
that beat
when I make your body gonna make your body wet what's it gonna be oh that's almost oh my god oh whoever produced that
jenna made a bop she got a song with q-tip i fucked with too. Damn. Damn, didn't Q-Tip die? No.
You got to quit killing niggas.
He is just fine.
All right, bro.
Y'all know Q-Tip might be out of here, bro.
Oh, that's Magoo.
Never mind.
Yeah, RP.
Moving on.
Shout out to Emion.
My fault, Q.
Q-Tip is a wild name, too.
Just let me fuck with it for a minute.
That's what he said on that song.
Hell no.
Yeah.
Ah, damn.
I got to play that song with you, bro. I've never heard that song.
You never heard that song?
Mm-mm.
Don't know.
You seen the boy.
Speaking about music, since we all here.
Your boy, DJ.
That's why we pot early.
DJ got to make his appearance at Soldier's. You move. Dude. Dude. Sorry. That's why we pot early. DJ got to make his appearance at Sojourn.
You.
Dude.
Dude.
Sorry.
Dude.
Yes sir.
Sojourn boy.
Tell him.
Big drink on the nap.
I had to fuck with
it one time.
You know me.
R.I.P.
to the Sojourn boy.
You.
That's what I got
picked up.
Oh I made it my
fault.
Damn it.
Y'all just
killing niggas today.
R.I.P.
Q-Tip.
Now Sojourn boy
who's next?
Sojourn boy up in it.
Soulja Boy.
R.B.
Kevin Gale.
We can't speak about that.
Soulja Boy up in it.
Oh.
Watch me crank it.
Watch out for his.
Soulja or Ludacris?
Ludacris, bro.
Ludacris.
Don't disrespect Big Soulja like that.
He don't have hits.
What was your favorite Soulja Boy song?
Which one you gonna sing
for us tonight
I'm not gonna probably
sing it but
that's one
he can't
he's definitely gonna
hit that
that's nasty
that's nasty
hey
you know what's funny
that motherfucker
had the Vogue
so I wouldn't be
in the balcony
just watching
that shit
that shit
probably gonna be
funny as fuck
hey I'm just excited to see what niggas gonna wear
man i hope people dress like that wear the dig dumb ass t-shirts the fuck that's gonna be a good
ass time man but that's not fair to compare to ludacris ludacris definitely has so i just think
he got more hits than ludacris bro man he probably thinks that drake stole his whole flow hey when my
nigga soldier was running around the press room with that same white dirty
Gucci headband
that's when he was
a goat bro
that's when I
I was like alright
Soulja Boy
he back
wait
that was your official
to trust him
yeah I was like
I fuck with Soulja Boy
he the Bobby Brown
of rap for sure
excuse me
Soulja Boy is the
Bobby Brown of rap bro
crashing out bro
he a beanbag
shit
that's a great
comparison for real I don't know he ain't have a Whitneybag. Shit, this. That's a great comparison.
He's a nerd, for real.
I don't know.
He ain't have a Whitney, though.
Longevity, too, though.
He ain't have a Whitney.
He definitely didn't have a Whitney.
Damn.
He definitely didn't have no Whitney.
He had what?
Well, he had a Whitney.
Never mind.
We ain't going to say her name on the pod.
But shout out to the Teddy Riley family.
He had cat stacks.
They don't count.
Oh.
Cat stacks, OG. What happened to cat stacks? don't count oh yeah thanks og what happened to cat sticks she probably
clocked she started snitching on him when he hit the cane in the room yeah i heard her sense damn
i didn't know he was on me i didn't know he tapped she had recorded a video ah she weak she weak for
that he had just hit that cane they could fin a tear a new one she posted it he hit that pre-workout i was about to get active he had
that one song that just recently came out uh he was playing for the show the tiktok yeah that
she that she make a clap that's gonna probably go crazy yeah it's gonna be fun just because
that time period was crazy and like you said it might get spooky if he come in there and not like
embrace that i feel like he is though because he know he a legacy act at this point yeah yeah for
sure yeah soldier soldier is still popping in on niggas tour dates and giving them he just
did the show with drewski and him in atlanta i know it probably went crazy but yeah that i wish
i was there if that could have been shit bro drewski brought everybody out bro i wish i was
a franchise boy that's hard uh what's the name dj um everybody damn dj uh i remember Ump? I remember he had one of the most memorable episodes of MTV careers to me.
I was like, that nigga live in Crooked Creek.
Like, how he get on the show?
That nigga had to do Slash That Two Step Remix.
It was my shit with T-Pain.
Oh, my Lord.
Oh, T-Pain, that's one of the hardest.
Like, his verse on there, he might have the hardest features ever.
Bro, yes, bro.
I think it started going crazy. Like his verse on there, he might have the hardest features ever. Bro, yes, bro. I'm like, yeah, I know.
I like it, you know.
That nigga started going crazy.
T-Pain used to stay.
And obviously, he'd been great for a long time.
But that four-year run he had, like when we was in high school,
going to college, was crazy.
Who, T-Pain?
Hell, yeah.
T-Pain, he.
He came out solo.
Then he started doing his features.
Then he started hopping his features then he started
hopping on other people's shit
bro T-Pain
is for sure
what's his greatest feature
like collab
song that he did
with anybody
damn that's tough
Shadi Plas
nah
you know what's crazy
all I do is
win with DJ Khaled
I know that was
you out of pocket
but I agree
that's the biggest
I said the biggest yeah do the number of pocket. But I agree. That's the biggest.
I said... The biggest he ever said.
Y'all do the number shit.
I'm saying the best.
I'm saying the fuck with it.
I ain't going by the best.
That ain't the best.
But he was going to find a way to plug Khaled
if we didn't hear from the nigga.
But I respect it.
Hold the brand down.
Shawty is the best.
You know what's crazy?
That was Webby's song.
Damn.
My numbers wise, it was Kiss Kiss by Chris Brown.
You want that love at that...
Numbers wise.
The kiss kiss...
Kiss Kiss is bigger than all i do is win
wow that's good to know i didn't know that which is crazy because that song is licensed everywhere
in the world but it's still chris brown that's where niggas be having to fucked up he's you know
chris brown also since we there is the only artist you know no usher no beyonce no michael jackson
in this century to you know top the charts i'm just saying i just
want you to know that mike wasn't alive what do you mean he's been dead i'm just saying like it
don't matter like that nigga lived long enough so chris brown
artist of this century to top the charts to crack the hundred you know i mean most times long enough is crazy Chris Brown I'm talking here my nigga my nigga's the only
artist of this century
to top the charts
to crack the hundred
you know
most times ever bro
shout out to Chris Brown
but nah
nah T-Pain is
T-Pain hooks is crazy
yeah
I don't know about
what'd you say
for the greatest T-Pain
plus
Shawty
Shawty's a far ass hook
but I don't know
if it's a bad
it's one of the favorites
for sure
cause uh uh uh damn he was on a Kanye song with uh Shawty. Shawty is a fire ass hook, but I don't know if it's a bad. It's one of the favorites. I'm sure. Cause,
uh,
uh,
uh,
damn,
he was on a Kanye song with,
uh,
good,
uh,
welcome to the life.
Nah,
you keep that one.
That was hard.
It's hard,
but you keep it.
Uh,
fuck.
With Jay Z.
I had to tap in.
We can move on though.
I'll come back to it.
With Jay Z and Kanye?
Yeah. Go hard? Go hard. Oh, yeah, that's not though I'll come back to it With Jay-Z and Kanye Yeah Go hard
Go hard
Aw
Nah that's not
I'll protect the
Maybach Music 3 joint
Over that
Yeah
Nah nah I don't go hard bro
This verse on go hard
Was crazy
But I respect y'all
Opinion though bro
For sure
Shout out to T-Pain
Hey I got a
Media day
You know what I'm saying
NBA is officially back
Just kicked off this week.
I was just looking at random stats and stuff.
And you know what's crazy?
This is year 17 for KD.
As much as we talk about how many years LeBron has been in the league, bro, KD, year 17,
and still being elite, it should be talked about a lot more.
I told her I paid for it.
Did you?
Nah, that's for Platt, I said.
Shit.
Hey, honestly, he started off with raps on one of them.
Nigga started off as soon as I seen this shit. KD, you trying to put a spell on your name.
DJ, mention your legacy.
This nigga talking about paying for the coochie room.
Nah, I'm just saying what nigga said.
Right after your flyers, bro.
Birdspin is birdspin.
Right after your flyers.
KD, let me find out.
I was just saying.
He got a lot of back deals.
I was just saying, he kind of killed that.
Shit, it's all right.
KD paying for it after the year 17 is crazy.
I bet he can't do that.
You just said it hurt KD.
But shout out to KD.
What'd I say?
Year 17?
Yeah.
That's a lot of buckets, bro.
That's a lot of years to be doing what you've been doing for a long time.
Anybody else in that draft?
Still in the league today?
Shit, that is a good question.
Westbrook?
Westbrook? He wasn't in that draft. It was a year after. a good question westbrook he wasn't in that draft he was a year after he said he was 16. you're 16. yeah katie you're 17. There you go. Some legends. KD. It's 19 for Chris Paul. God damn.
He about to get a 20 plus.
That's dope, bro.
And some of the footage they've been showing,
I mean, we'll talk about it more,
the Spurs camp.
Like what I'm saying.
Like we said,
the perfect person to be with Wimpy,
but damn, 19, 20,
that's crazy niggas been in the league that long.
He only a six foot guard playing 20 years.
Him and Mike playing that long at that size.
A dream, bro.
Man, that's special.
It's still effective.
It's still putting
an imprint on the game.
For sure.
I wanted to ask
out of this while we're
just looking at random shit.
At what year do you think
Victor Wimbiano is going
to get his first ring?
Because I don't think
it's going to be an if
with him.
I think it's just when.
I ain't going to hold you.
He's going to make it.
He got about a year seven, eight. I'm probably's just win. I ain't gonna hold you. He's gonna, he got about
year seven,
eight.
I'm probably taking
two blue shoes,
bro.
By the time
he's in one.
I ain't gonna lie.
He got about
seven,
eight,
bro.
It's over with,
brother.
Damn,
y'all think,
the two blue shoes
is crazy.
Cause double cup
and that is nuts.
But damn,
y'all think,
y'all don't think
when we gonna get it
Man
I know time soon
That's a round in cash
Boy that motherfucker weak
Oh well obviously
We know that's gonna change
That's why I said
I give it maybe
Five
Year seven for him bro
You think he gonna win
In year five
I think
Year five
Year six
At the latest
Who
Who they got over there?
Bro, who going there?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
If they don't put him around nobody, bro,
by that time period,
bro, they're wasting him.
Because by the end, bro,
he's going to be unstoppable, bro.
He's never going to be a short thing to win.
CP only went there
because he said he wanted to play still.
For sure.
He going to be unstoppable this year.
But taking that nigga to the ship
with how the league
is getting with these teams bro absolutely not no absolutely not bro you're gonna have to i'll
stand on that ledge man i think by year six you're gonna have a ring bro for great trade they're
gonna have to go get i don't even know who's gonna be available about that time but you don't think
it'd be in the league i mean we ain't gonna seem serious you don't think the league would want that
they don't think they want him to be?
Yeah.
They do, bro.
But nobody want to go San Antonio.
Yeah, that's the stigma.
Like, it's nice.
Pop O.
Quiet, bro.
Pop won't be there.
Yeah, Pop.
DJ asked for a lot, bro.
I think that nigga about to really dominate.
I think he about to fuck the league up for sure.
Oh, I think he is, too.
I think he could.
I think he got a chance to be the MVP this year, to be honest.
Yeah, he gonna kill. Quiet for the show he got a chance to win MVP this year to be honest.
Yeah, he gonna kill.
Quiet for the shit.
He damn near can win MVP this year
because he's gonna
average 20 plus
10 rebounds
probably five blocks.
MVP,
they gotta be like
top four in the West.
I think the Spurs
ain't gonna be top four
but I think they gonna
make the playoffs.
That's for sure
not top four.
I think they'll make
the playoffs though.
If they get to the seventh,
sixth or seventh seed
in the West,
they might win MVP.
No.
Because they rostered ass.
But you know how mad
niggas would be
if a seventh seed
get MVP?
Why?
Yeah, there ain't no denying it.
You can't deny it.
You know,
that be on there was like,
well, he was on the third seed,
bro, he get a seventh,
a seventh seed MVP is crazy.
Because he going to have to be
doing some extreme shit.
Every single game. To make them win, bro. They roster is crazy. Because he's going to have to be doing some extreme shit. Every single game.
To make them win, bro.
Their roster is pool.
And I ain't trying to discredit none of the players.
Y'all better than me.
But that roster compared to other teams' rosters, y'all is pool.
Right, that's what we're doing.
Hey, man, if that organization don't put nothing competent behind him
in the first couple years, free him.
That's crazy.
When your second player is cp about
almost 40 yeah when your second best player is almost 40 and you're a point guard
you ain't gonna have it you're in trouble and cp a legend he go he all-star hall of famer all that
but it's a lot of pressure to put on them so So for him to get them to the playoffs, you know he was special.
And if he do that shit, he get my vote.
DJ jumped off a ledge with that one.
I did.
I think he's about to really take the league over.
Outside.
For sure.
Take shit over there.
Check DJ Vance for the fit.
The real fit.
I lost my dog to that fit now.
Hey, Jeff.
All right. Don't start now Jeff all right don't start
west side don't do it bro
I lost my dog to that tennis ball R.I.P man R.I.P Gotti it's crazy man uh obviously we've seen
the Lakers shit I thought was very fire to see um Bron and Bernie on stage like that especially when they had the different camera angles they both seen their
jerseys like their names that's that was fire supposed to mean the james and james junior
that's he man i with that moment even though it really don't feel like a lot of ways other
people i with that that guy he accomplished everything he couldn't leave i i with
braun i with that whole moment only thing thing I didn't feel, I was like,
he said when he was like five years old,
he seen the nigga and was like,
yeah, he going to the league.
Like, stop.
Hunter.
I love y'all to death, bro. I love y'all whole family,
but bro,
it's not good unless we get a good LeBron line.
What made that official for me,
that statement?
It's his son looking like,
oh, shit.
Like, nigga, I wasn't even the best on the team.
Bronny's response was what did it for me.
Like, aw, this nigga is cap on his cap.
You did not think I was going to win.
First time on camera, you going to put me in this?
Or give me some pre-media training, nigga.
Let me know what you're going to do so I can play off of it.
I remember we used to play them.
Like, he was the last
I see him grow as a player
And he became
A lot better
But like
The Mohawk
Reese Shepard and them
Used to
Destroy
Him
Oh for sure
But they had like
What's the kid
Gabe Cup
Yeah
Oh they had
Are you writing
Yeah
They got an older nigga
Mikey start fucking with him
I forgot the little dude That went to Off the school to play football They had a little Mike That was an older nigga Mikey started fucking with him I forgot the little dude
that went to
off to school to play football
he was cold
they had a little Mike
that was in Chicago
when they was little
Big Ja?
yeah I mean not Big Ja
but yeah they had Ja too
but that was later on
yeah they had
that was like 7th grade
when he started
starting to get a little notice
yeah now when he got
to 7th, 8th grade
it was
alright now
if he would have said
practice at his gym
yeah if he would have been
like 7th, 8th grade
I seen it
I would have been like okay I feel itth grade I seen it I would have been like
okay I feel it
I feel you
but 5th
like 5 years
no
no
no no
that's cool man
shout out to you bro
I love that LeBron
just give us a good lie
every time we talk
shout out to him
every time we talk about that nigga
how that nigga be reading books
have you ever seen that video
of that nigga
reading the book
the fastest book reader
he says LeBron
that nigga was like
freezing up
he said
that was brown
bro
so that was
brown
hey Louise
do not make this
the fucking thumbnail
do not
please
they talking about
I'm sick
matter of fact
use Victor
yeah
do not put
little brown thumbnail
bro
god damn we've turned to the braun bitches
i know like we love braun over here but shit we ain't even gonna braun anybody yet
can't be every thumbnail braun fuck what the fuck he said hey man we thought that
nigga was gonna be on the show fuck with y'all niggas every thumbnail is braun yeah but for
yeah we want braun on books know, that shit get wicked.
We know how it go.
Yeah, for real.
Business decisions.
But we're going to talk about my patients too.
Hey, shout out to my boy Tyreek.
You know what I'm saying?
Out there getting wicked in the dress shoes.
This is when we need a bartender so I can take a break.
I seen him dressing, had the dress shoes on.
He all in on that shit.
Wearing the church shoes Him and
YG do that right
Yeah well
Yeah for different reasons
Okay
No I'm just
Respect
Damn
We about to get some
Stacey Adams
Stacey Adams
Oh that's crazy
Damn
The Harold Pender
Sponsorship
He gonna be in the
KNG commercial next
Nigga
I mean He definitely He definitely be wearing The soldier boy dress clothes he gon be in a KNG commercial next nigga I mean he
definitely be wearing
the Soulja Boy
dress clothes
my boy be in a
8 inch blazer
that's crazy
I fuck with his
movement though
like I like he got
his own little
vibe to him
he fit Indiana
that's the only
place you can get
that shit off
for real we
embrace shit like
that
niggas going to
Soulja Boy
tonight bro
what the fuck Soulja Boy tonight, bro.
What the fuck?
Tyrese going to be in there with it.
Them niggas going to be right next to Soulja Boy.
Soulja Boy is on a 26 tour right now.
Respect my nigga.
Nah, no disrespect to Soulja Boy.
I'm just saying we embrace like. Big Soulja be on the internet.
I fuck with Soulja Boy.
We don't give a fuck.
I fuck with Soulja Boy. I'm give a fuck I fuck with Soulja Boy
I'm just saying like
Indiana
Soulja Boy
go at these niggas
y'all was ATL kicking it
now you don't claim him now
that's crazy
nah
don't shout out to Soulja Boy
like I told you
at that era
I fuck with that I have big ass t-shirts
so the boys are legend but he but it's gonna be funny because he's not gonna be dressed like that
nah that thing you're gonna have on a whole gucci fit
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Hey, speaking of big t-shirts,
shout out to, I forgot that name,
but shout out to the Clipping Up UNL old school diet user version UNC.
My boy out there in the 3XT hooping.
I seen that.
I was busting their ass.
Yeah, matter of fact.
That's what I'm something talking about hooping.
Y'all niggas quit tagging me
with this John Jackson.
That nigga can't play basketball.
I don't respond to that kind of shit.
That nigga is terrible at basketball.
I'm getting down.
I'm like,
I know his shit crazy.
Yeah,
they keep saying something
about the John Jackson.
Nigga,
I tried to play him 15,
what was that,
15 years ago?
Yeah,
Josh tried to line that shit up.
And that nigga didn't want to play.
That's what y'all not going to clip,
and that's what niggas didn't tell Lou and Spank on the show.
All right, has he been dunking smoke for that long?
I mean, shit, he just started talking shit.
I can hoop, I can hoop.
I wasn't even there.
He was at a strip club.
He was like, I can hoop.
My nigga smooth, funny as hell, called me on the side like,
I'm gassing this nigga this
gonna be the easiest 50k you ever made in your life i'm gonna front it i'm gonna get you 25 i
get 25 go to the uh gym i'm like who i'm about to play he's like football nigga he sat put my
clothes on got in the car he called me back like man he's scared he ain't gonna play he's scared
and i heard him just talking shit like man you scared but you ain't going to play. He's scared. And I heard him just talking shit. Like, man, you scared,
but you ain't got the money.
What's up?
What's up?
He was like, no, no, no.
Then Lou,
Lou was there.
Lou called me.
He was like, nah,
one of them niggas told him
that you really can hoop.
This nigga didn't know who you was.
That nigga just talking.
Oh, yeah.
Damn.
That's the real.
Put that on your shit.
Yeah, that nigga just,
he just talking. And then when i dm'd
him like you want bet you know how nigga try to talk shit like yeah what's up nigga i'll bust your
ass and i was like all right let's let's bet like you said you can beat me let's bet money you can
beat me then it went from beating me to i could score on you yeah shit change nigga i don't give
a fuck about you scoring nigga and this nigga never said
that he could fuck with you on the football field because i don't don't move don't move the goalpost
we fuck with dj dj cause motherfucking legend in the nfl yeah for sure but niggas would just be
getting out of pocket and getting sideways on this shit yeah because he was out of pocket like
and out of all the niggas names you could could call, you're going to call a nigga.
You know,
pardon the shit.
I know what it means.
It makes sense.
It didn't make me mad,
though.
It made me laugh.
Yeah.
Because that nigga said,
let's do it for content.
That's when I was like,
ah.
Let's do it for content.
Luis.
I said,
do it for content.
Ah.
Content.
Yeah, he wanted you to do the flood. Exhibition match. Let's play. do it for content oh content yeah yeah
he wanted you to do
the flood
exhibition match
let's play
let's play for content
so he don't
niggas too tapped
in with that
WCW shit
he said
let's do it for content
respect
I don't know
we do content shit
but nah
you called my name
like it was
like I was sweet
And I just
My only thing is too
You know
And the football niggas
They gonna talk their shit
Cause they used to hoop
It was just when he just
Used you as an example
Of why he could play
Minutes in the NBA
Yeah
I'm sweet
That's what had me tight
I'm like bro
Yeah you getting out of pocket
Yeah
I'm probably not
The best example for that
Yeah
And shout out to my nigga Lou.
I make it look like I ain't care, but niggas know.
Like, I ain't doing that.
That's why when I seen that highlight of North Carolina,
like, nigga, you wouldn't have scored 10 on North Carolina.
Ty Law locking that shit up, nigga.
You sweet.
That's why shit like that just make me laugh.
But it'd be, like, cool.
But his sport, he was cold, I called i guess hell yeah i wasn't really
no the shine guys yeah bro all the fame nigga bro yeah maybe hella plays he was one of the best
downfield yeah he was like that for sure yeah i ain't really watching during touchdowns
one of the fastest niggas to ever grace that field, 100%.
Yeah, fuck the Eagles, though.
But, hey,
I got to ask you,
you know what I'm saying,
since you were on that,
that was your highest score game.
What was your, like,
best college game
or your favorite college game?
That was a cool game
because so many pros
was on that team.
They had Ed Davis,
Ty Wayne,
Tyler Hasbro,
Danny Green.
They had,
I think,
Tyler Zeller
was on the bench, I think. He was, bro. Yeah, he Green. They had, I think, Tyler Zeller was on the bench, I think.
He was, bro.
Yeah, they had a bunch of pros on that team,
so that was cool to play against them.
But my favorite game was probably Duke my freshman year.
We played Duke.
They was number one in the country.
And we were sad.
We weren't sad, but we weren't ranked.
And we ended up beating them
and me and James
both had 26
damn did I beat them
at weight
at weight
and they rushed the floor
and shit
that was like the first time
that we got like some
real recognition
ah yeah
that was
that was hard
nigga James
was a motherfucking issue boy
yeah
but that Duke team
was nasty
Nolan
and nigga
I really
Cal
Cal Singer's one of the
greatest college basketball players
I've seen
100%
unfortunately I can
take in that testimony
because of what he did to us
and that natural
that me
you know what I mean
even when bro killed
UNC
Wayne Ellington was
that nigga in college bro
yeah
Wayne was nice too
they won a chip that year
so shout out to Wayne
yeah
yeah they was nice
that's what they was saying
they was just like
man we lost that game
but I'm happy that season went any other way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That year was a good year.
I had a bunch of 30-point games that year.
We played Jimmer for dead.
He gave us 30, but I had 30.
And see, niggas, that's what I'm saying.
How this podcast, this is how crazy the internet is.
These niggas really don't be tapped in the hoops.
You don't talk about yourself.
I get that.
But, nigga nigga the acc was
tough when y'all was in that motherfucker bro it was cold it was crazy so you wasn't playing
motherfucking shout out to niggas in the smaller conferences and shit but that was a big deal the
acc was in the big east was the shit back when we was growing up no that was some shit but i ain't
gonna lie every game we played a pro damn near somebody was going to the league even like virginia
tech i remember
they beat us when we was number one in the country they had malcolm delaney yeah yeah that niggas
talk shit too shout out to him though he could hoop but it was a battle he killed y'all i remember
i just had an attitude that game i think i still probably had like 27 or something like that but
damn no i just had a because one like, I wasn't shooting that game.
They thought I was point shaving.
So I had to call in the office
for point shaving.
Niggas called you blue chips
because you wasn't shooting the ball?
Yeah, we,
our team was crazy,
so, uh.
Oh, we know.
You know, we just be having attitudes.
People said I was,
I was, like, on this 30-point run.
I was getting 30,
like, every game.
And I started getting segments
where it was like,
Jeff T, like, on ESPN, it'd just be my name.
And like, they was like, Scott Van Pelt,
I'll never forget, he was like, this kid is crazy.
Like, you know what I mean?
I was killing.
Niggas want to fuck him with that shit.
Niggas like, you know what I mean?
They brought the team camaraderie.
Yeah, niggas want to fuck him with that.
That team QT on 2K went down. Nigga, they want to fuck him with that. I was like, ah, shit know what I mean? That brought the team camaraderie. Yeah, niggas was fucking with that. That team QH on 2K win, man.
They was fucking with that.
I was like, ah, shit, so I just stopped shooting.
Now you see how the Temptations treated David Russell?
Yeah.
And y'all know I wasn't one of them niggas that wanted to be the,
I was just doing me.
I didn't really want that.
I wanted to win, and I wanted the guys, like,
I wasn't thinking about the NBA.
So it just became a thing and
niggas was just that was off the that's when the team chemistry just went downhill
niggas was not trying to hop on that t way what about me i knew it was crazy because that game
shout out to my nigga harvey i had started hooping i I started playing. We had a break.
It was like he could have gained a ball to me or James or something.
This is how I knew our team was just getting fucked up.
And he kept it and got charged.
Like to decide the game.
He kept the ball.
He got a charge.
Everybody was like,
and that's where it just went downhill.
It was just a bad day.
Harvey got it cracking.
After that game was over, bro.
We just was sad.
We was what, like 19-0?
Yeah, we all was killing.
It all makes sense.
I've been telling y'all how important that team locker room is, bro.
That shit matters.
I can't wait till we have James't wait to be here we talk about that
one that shit was so funny and we don't get james on this year he's doing enough for this podcast
in a 30 minute span anybody other guesses that yeah thanks well what's so funny though i laugh
at the highlights of the usc because then we play i see like ld like trailing i was looking like jackal thought nope and now as a point guard as i got older i was that's why uh i wanted to talk about that too
because as a point guard when i got older i realized like what kind of player i was i was
fucked up like there's a lot of times like i could have threw lives to alpha rule threw it behind me
they would have got a dunk and it probably would have rose the team chemistry but i was such a scorer at that time that like nigga when i seen a bucket i got
a bucket like so when i get to the league that's why i tell you like if you get handed the ball
as soon as you come in the league people careers could be different because i was such a bucket
getter if somebody would have gave me the ball as soon as i came from workforce i probably would
average 18 or 20 points.
You know what I mean,
as a rookie.
Because my mindset
was so like that.
But to get on the floor
in the NBA,
they told me I had to
play defense and run
to the corner
and I just wanted to play.
So after a while,
you kind of lose that.
You just do whatever you can
to stay on the floor.
And you lose that
killer instinct
because, nigga,
I was in college.
Oh my God.
I tried to score on anybody. I thought I was the best scorer in the world. Like when I first got to the league, I was in college. Oh, my God. Yeah. I tried to score on anybody.
I thought I was the best scorer
in the world.
Like, when I first got to the league,
I used to be like,
this shit's so easy.
Woody killed me.
So, yeah,
you weren't blessed like Dane
and Paul.
Nah, none of them.
Like you said,
the Newark guards,
they get the keys
to the kingdom now.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's your job to fuck up
for three years.
Yeah, for sure.
I wish I would've had
that opportunity
with that mindset.
Like, I mean, my NBA career is still good. Yeah, for sure. I wish I would have had that opportunity with that mindset.
Like, I mean, my NBA career is still good.
Yeah, you had a great career for sure, bro.
But you would be a different nigga.
If they would have gave me the ball and let me say, look, just do what you did.
Max DLT?
Man, what?
Because I didn't even have a conscience, bro.
Y'all see, I was pulling threes on fast breaks.
Yeah.
That shit was so funny because I was like, he ain't even.
Nope.
Nope.
I'm pulling the threes.
I didn't have a conscience.
What did your coach say when you shot that?
Nothing.
I used to make it all the time.
Like 40-something from three, 50 from the field.
I used to really miss.
My confidence was so high.
But when you got to the league, Woody just took all that shit.
You transitioned well, bro. I'm sure that was hard for Woody just took all that shit. nah.
You transitioned well,
bro.
I'm sure that was hard for you to do,
but shit.
A lot of niggas ain't able to do that.
Ah,
shit,
I'm playing.
I was like,
this shit is ass.
They can run to the corner,
passing the ball.
Ugh.
And then when they said,
you can get this amount of money
if you do this,
that's what fucked me up.
Like,
it was all you,
all we need you to do is average this and this and you do this that's what fucked me up like it was all you all we need
you to do is average this and this and you can get that and then i started playing the numbers game
it wasn't my more like the love i want to kill it was like they said 14 and 5 14 5 i got 14 5 we won
you know how i mean instead like but that's the kind of you know you had all them people on our team
so it was cool
he made it work
whatever
so hell of a breakdown
of basketball
let niggas know
they can't play with
tonight man
get well soon
the big picture of this
is don't be T
in 2008
in 2009
if you're a point guard
don't
don't
all that great shit
said
oh yeah
if you got some more
killers on your team
let the killers eat too
yeah man
not finish
swing
swing
do not finish
a 3-0-1
by yourself
yes bro
absolutely
go alive bro
and if you are LD
or Harvey
nigga
join the football team
my fault man
that was one that was so crazy LD like you could tell he was full stride the football team. My fault, man.
That was one that was so crazy.
Like, you could tell he was full stride
and Jeff didn't even look that way.
I did a double clutch layup
one time, nigga.
A difficult ass layup.
I could have just
laid it off to a nigga.
I did a...
That's why they was like,
yeah, he with them.
He with them. Oh, man. I should have been a better team i i wasn't i wasn't a point guard
ish was ish was the point guard i was a two yeah i was a two they told me get buckets shout out to
ish for holding shit down man being that solid locker room nigga yeah martin luther king in the
locker room through that lob they told me get buckets man it's a good digger like you said
with norris cole i wasn't even talking about throwing the bitch up i would have shot that layup facts for sure
hey i had to ask you this so we had a project pet conversation a couple you know i'm saying
episodes back y'all was out of pocket my boy just got ordained he's an official minister now you
know i'm saying be here he's looking for a church drummer you pulling up for sure you know uh
i'm big on Project Pat.
You know what I mean?
Life we live.
They're playing with God's name now.
Nah, we're going to do it because you get cleaned up.
You're able to do it, bro.
It's okay, bro.
You're probably going to slow walk him in the church.
He ain't getting up there and getting the clowning.
You know what I mean?
He ain't got that towel yet.
But if he decides one Sunday morning that he wants to have cheese as his sermon,
then I'm going to
transfer to Porto Churches.
To me, preachers are
supposed to be, for real, motivational speakers.
He done been through so much, bro.
I feel like he's...
My face. Talking this
and that. Yeah, he can talk about how to
handle hoes, everything, bro.
You live clean, but your gas taking hoes everything bro got no decent shoes he had us calling chicks
you don't know what you're talking about anyway we've got a back and forth conversation with a
lady on the song and it's a bop oh god that's hard you know i mean so shout out to project man
slow walking to that ministry, bro.
That's tough.
You entering a different lane, my boy.
Speaking of walking to ministry, bro, AJ Griffin.
Yeah, AJ Griffin.
We didn't know why he was stepping away from basketball, but he said, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, thank God.
I thought it was some health shit.
That's cool.
Yeah, he said the temptation of that life, he wasn't feeling it he was like he wanted to be with god
boy i respect that like you said i i obviously as when we see stuff like that we think worst
case scenario unfortunately but i was relieved you know i'm saying that reason rather than
something else so yeah i mean my thing was like i mean if he wanted to go be a pastor or whatever
but my thing was like damn you could still have that kind of faith and do all that and still
play basketball yeah what city was he in atlanta my boy said he couldn't win that battle
bro he could have though i mean flush ain't strong enough bro i think i think it's a culture thing i
think because it's expectations when you black and you play basketball people assume that you're
gonna live this kind of lifestyle because none of our white counterparts that who nobody say that
about them like they live a easy going i watch kyle corver go to church read his bible do all that stuff and
just be solid fair fair to what you're saying though bro but everybody discipline is different
though no i'm not saying anything but if you're going to be a pastor you got some discipline my
man like well you saw mark jackson said i don't want to go that route yeah but i'm saying it just
it just depends though bro i'm not just because't want to go that route. Yeah, but I'm saying it just depends, though, bro.
I'm not, just because you want to be a pastor,
because a lot of them motherfuckers is filthy.
A lot of these niggas is counterfeit.
That's my whole point.
That's my whole point, just because you're going in there.
But I think people forget the sport of basketball.
Yeah.
You still, this is a sport.
I agree.
Some of you love to do, some of you love to play.
I ain't saying that you can't go be a pastor and do do that it's just a sport people put the other stuff on it like
most of them probably was hoping bro you good what position most of us play par four
he said good picks
motherfucking screen it wrong nigga don't call him alone
he definitely set the good screen
you hear me so
and I agree with Jeff I mean you can but he was
probably like this shit too much
I gotta step away cause
what comes with being a professional
athlete living in Atlanta he probably
like damn I get it
I understand the temptation it
got me a couple times but what i'm saying is
like if you're going to be a pastor your discipline gonna be different anyway yeah you know i mean and
if you're really good at playing basketball and something you truly enjoy i'm sure he truly enjoys
hooping i'm sure he's probably still gonna hoop and wreck leagues or whatever but like damn don't
give up the dream like and you can still do both i feel like he could have did both and you're a
decent player bro ah shit but ain't no telling though he might need to step away for some time to get that
in order then he might come back like you said he's over his up you think it's when you step
away so yeah go be with the lord bro what job moran say stay over there
bro if he come to track him next year they're like nah
nah then you like jesus
i'm a fullback
just saying john ran stamped it bro stay over there shout out to john my boy had to go
it's up yeah a.j griffin ain't jordan bro you
can't leave and come back bro and figure out that really well for you man you can't mace that thing
well nah it's over with not in the league you can't mace it bro damn man that's crazy get
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