Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on why Vince Carter is BETTER than Kawhi + Drake vs. Michael Jackson

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 17 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys debate who the better NBA player was between Vince Carter and Kawhi Leonard. The guys then discuss the latest NBA fight between Draymond Green and Rudy Gobert, and Jeff tells a story about Karl-Anthony Towns and Ben Simmons fighting a few years back. The guys also debate who the better artist is between Drake and Michael Jackson, and much more. 00:00 - Introduction05:00 - NBA fights13:00 - Kawhi vs. Vince Carter17:00 - Drake vs. Michael Jackson27:00 - Mark Jackson30:50 - Charles Oakley34:00 - Gambling Stories43:00 - Austin Reaves vs. Cam Reddish46:00 - How to fix the Lakers #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Same gang with me. New location to my left my dog bishop what's happening what's happening my nigga let's buy look he excited hey first and foremost you having a retired pair of black forces next to you uh how many bodies did you catch in them before you decided that they was done 2014 baby's right here baby excuse me 2014 I don't know whatever that means could you elaborate right away got something called 2018 maybe this is from 2014 I'm just telling you the lineage from 2014 introduced the other person the other person my dog young nacho young ting now you feel about that? The retirement ceremony? No, don't speak on them.

You're not qualified. You're not qualified. I don't want no black forces. But what I got on today, this is some tools. These recently came out a couple months ago. I think so.

Not so far ago. I finally broke them out. They was by the door. Pete was cleaning up the little area I be having my shoes in. These was the last ones left. Damn.

I mean, we know how you like. do never be by the door the uniform yeah so we can't as a team we got a we got a push agenda for me here we got it we gotta get the black forces I would never disrespect my feet it was actually somebody said they fuck with them don't say is somebody of people. Don't say it's somebody. It's a lot of people that fuck with them. You see the Halloween costumes? Yeah, they guess. They said they kind of.

It might be. DJ Sweeney. Shout out to the NFL, nigga. Strong linebacker for the coach. Shout out to the new gang. The Triches. Yeah, he was tripping. Nah, them is real triches.

Yeah, he was tripping. Y'all got to speak on the world, though. What's up? Right. Oh, they do. What episode are we on now? Season 2? Shit. Since when we start keeping count of that?

I'm just saying. I'm just keeping it real. We done did a lot of shows already. At least 12. Volume. At least 12, nigga. Yeah, bro. We done did six weeks of this shit with volume for sure

yeah it's been a minute shout out to the volume am I right yes okay be him man I don't like his math

starting to show off though that's never a good idea we get to do your calculations I'm just saying they accurate bro so they ain't seen them enough to know

they can stop talking about them they're not going nowhere bro they here to say I guess damn hey man So they ain't seen him enough to know they can stop talking about him. They're not going nowhere, bro. They're here to stay, I guess. Damn. Hey, man. What are you doing?

Stop sitting in the fucking microphone. Man, start the fucking show. Like, damn. We are, bro. Lord Jesus. He's not even drinking nothing but water. This nigga cap is his. It's fucking new.

This nigga just had a coffee. It's midnight, y'all. This nigga just had a coffee. This nigga acting like he's... There's no Cavalli in that shit. No Roberto. It ain't even here. Roberto's not here. Roberto's not here.

He is not here. He triple cupping the feet. He triple cupping the Irish spring, whatever the shit's called. That's some soap fuck, nigga. He's a hoe. Trying to be tight. Trying to be tight. Whatever that water called, spring water.

That's what he wash up with nigga I did use that in like middle school though skin used to be dry the motherfucker ain't need no Irish spring

your shit fucked up I'm shit ain't shouted no mouth my skin used to be dry as fuck off the Irish spring that's up there with this

and that zest bro that zest nigga top five weekend something like that that zest you can watch that bitch crumble nigga that shit like a granola bar I ain't even still sell zest no more That's Zest, bro. That's Zest, nigga. Top five weekend. That's Zest. You can watch that bitch crumble, nigga. That shit like a granola bar.

They don't even still sell Zest no more anymore. Man, they had the best commercial, though. Nah, for sure, bro. That was a black staple in the household. What, the Zest? Hell yeah, bro. Oh, that's tough. There's somebody, a lot of motherfuckers in your family

washed over Zest. Yeah, I ain't get dubbed. You get caught on the dub. I ain't get dug till later on. That was luxury. Yeah, late, late. Yeah, Zest was definitely on Grayson. My church used to have the Zest bars as the hand soap.

Yeah, your church got a pocket. They should have blew that motherfucker up. Relax. Nigga, That many people Were up in the same bar It's crazy bro I would've lost my mind Like if I would've

Went to the bathroom And another nigga Was doing this And set it back down I'd lost it bro I don't feel the ass I would've lost it bro I ain't gonna lie

I'd lost it And we'll make it worse Cause you know You only got like three Cause even the rags be crumbling when you use this. The motherfuckers be shredding through that shit.

You got about three or four hand cycles and that bitch is done. I would have lost it, bro. I'm going to buy myself a GP. Dawson, let that go. Yeah, put it right next to that table

next to the forces you retired today. Fuck. Hey, man. Shout out to Draymond Green, man. Shout out to fucking Draymond Green because he acted a motherfucking fool for no reason and Imond Green, man. Shout out to fucking Draymond Green.

Because he acted a motherfucking fool for no reason. And I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. I don't. But he helped his teammate out. Nah, bro. It was unnecessary, bro. He did it to Rudy Goldberg. He's supposed to ride for his team.

That's not riding, bro. Rudy Goldberg wasn't even going. He was trying to go break it up. But it was beef, though. Oh, they got beef? Yeah. Remember they was talking crazy? They had a little back and forth last year.

Draymond doing the TNT stuff. Rudy was talking greasy. They don't have static. I love it. I'm nothing, bro. That was his opportunity to get him. Okay. Yeah.

I'm not. He got five games for that shit? I know he... Shit, I'd be mad at him. He probably going to podcast, though, so he going to win. He did. He going gonna get it back somehow he probably gonna do a podcast all five games Draymond could've chilled out though

I don't know he get that podcast money back cause them five games hit cause that nigga would make 30 million a year man he straight on that we ain't gotta talk about that but that was worth it though that was fucking worth it I just hate it was Rudy I'm happy it was Rudy

you be having smoke with everybody, bro. Who, Rudy? Nah, Draymond. I'm happy it was Rudy. That makes it funnier. We don't fuck with Rudy, I guess, as a basketball community, because he'd be doing some fuck shit. But just to grab that nigga and start choking him up, bro.

There was no reason. He was literally going over there to break the shit up. Did you see how He was throwing his arms At what he was doing That's what made it funny That nigga was This is not me Was that worse

Than Ben Simmons Choking Cat That time Nigga Nigga Cat tapped out Pause That nigga That nigga

Cat hit the ground bro I ain't gonna never forget that I was crying. You see Cat didn't want no smoke in that one. He had a flashback. Ah, yeah, with him and B. Nah, what's funny is I watched that video and you was grabbing him.

I don't know what I was. I damn near hurt my... My pec still ain't been the same since that day, bro. I think I tore my pec, bro. That nigga's huge, bro. That nigga's huge. He weighs a lot, bro. Yeah.

He gotta be 300. I was dying, bro, because Pat B was to be 300. I was dying, bro, because Pat Baird was like, damn. He was like, Cat, y'all supposed to ride for y'all niggas in that situation

and get them up out of there. And I was like, damn, that's funny because that nigga Jack Raven beat. He was like, I'm here for shit. This nigga big as shit.

Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I got him up off of Cat, though. But Ben Simmons, he had some of those going on. I could get him up. I was like, yo, yo, okay, you got to figure that shit out. That was good for kind of smoke, for sure. Hey, that nigga Ben Simmons. he had something else going on. I couldn't get him. I was like, hey, you know, you don't care. You got to figure that shit out.

It was kind of smoke for sure. Hey, that nigga Ben Simmons. And then he looked up what the picture was happening to. That's what make it funny. Yeah. Like, yeah. I was so proud of Cat in that moment. I remember he got on the bus.

He was like, I ain't no hoe. I ain't no hoe. I ain't no hoe, Cat. Phil, you motherfucker. You ain't no hoe I feel you motherfucker You ain't no hoe He was like I swear to God Like he had me fucked up

I was about to whoop his ass I really was whooping his ass Alright We do it a lot We do it a lot That's why the nigga Closed his eyes and was like Did I hit him?

Did I hit him? Yeah I was like you ain't no hoe But you doing a lot You doing a lot Y'all NBA niggas be on bullshit Who? Like you

Like what was your issue When you pushed LeBron, bro? Why you do that? Oh, wow. What kind of... Why you got to bring up shit like that? I'm just saying,

we're talking about niggas doing a lot, bro. Go James. It's fine. No, it's respect. Go James. It's respect with what made you do that, brother.

Nigga, we was losing. Shit, I'm a sore loser, motherfucker. He was beating my... I ain't win a playoff game against that nigga ever. I was sick of this shit. Oh, we saw. And the nigga was, motherfuckers fans

in Atlanta cheering for him. He running down the cross. I said, you know what, bitch? I got something for you. Should've checked this shit out that nigga. He went to the stands. I saw that. Oh, my nigga. I got so much hate, man. If he would've been hurt, I would've killed you, bitch. I'm like,

damn, I got to get off the internet. That's when I first deleted Instagram. That was my first time deleting Instagram. I'm like, yeah, I got to get off this shit.

Niggas think a team about to pop up on the ground with a baby. Nah, just push LeBron. I pushed LeBron, so who is it? Why did he go shitty?

Hey, they be talking about it on the internet. It was just like, well, why did he do that? I was pissed, bro. I don't even know I was pissed because I knew he wasn't about to win.

I never got to ask you, like, what made you do that shit for real? That's funny as fuck. I had never beat that nigga. And then the time I thought I was about to win, we was up 30 for the Pacers in the playoffs, nigga. And that nigga told him, we good. We up 30 at halftime. He told him.

I looked at him. He was like, oh, we good, y'all. Them niggas beat us, bro. Wow. I was like, it ain't'all them niggas beat us bro wow I was like it ain't meant for me to beat this nigga and did I go to the west

this nigga go out west I'm like hey bro I tried to get away from you bro yeah but shit it's cool

whatever shout out to Bronny that's crazy I ain't think about like that cause I forgot LeBron had been in the western conference

or like damn it as long as the Lakers like damn a lot of people who move conferences to in the Western Conference or like, damn it, as long as the Lakers, it's like, damn, a lot of people who move conferences to get away from shit or to get a better opportunity.

Nope, this nigga went West, KD went East. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? KD made an executive decision. He made a great decision.

Definitely. But I still, I'm still, I got to see how they're going to play later this season. I can't even judge their team right now. Oh, Phoenix?

Yeah, because they, Bradleyville plays every other game. I told y'all that though when we took our takes a while back i was like yeah i would pick phoenix but brad don't ever play man i love brad but he like he always had like some freak injury that's been his career i mean he called when he out there he called yeah yeah he just got to get out there. I don't know who be hurt more, him or Kawhi. Kawhi be chilling, bro. He don't be hurt.

He take days off just for GP. I believe it. What about the Clippers, though? They ass. They going to figure it out. Are we blaming James Harden for this? Yeah. I don't think they would. They was hooping when Bones Howland got the play.

They need to move him and Terrence, bro. They need to put James. I love James, but they need to let him have moments where he got the ball by himself. Where he got his own squad. He should start, but he should be the real second unit. And he should play with

Bones Highland. They deep enough. I seen somebody say he kind of like a poor version of Tyrese Maxey. Yeah. Not as fast, but, you know,

can make shots, can create. Yeah. And James Harden played well with Tyrese Maxey, so, like, let him have a young nigga that he can, like,

mold. Nah, true. But that's a lot to ask for the system. Nigga said, I am a system. Man, my nigga, you know, we fuck with James Harden, but that system is not looking ask for the system nigga said I am a system man my nigga you know we fuck with James Harden

but that system is not looking right right now bro Ty Lue ain't gonna let that happen too long I agree what they like what they lost

seven in a row or something like that yeah I know they'll drop a lot of six for sure damn man but then you gotta think how long this gonna last

cause Kawhi and PG could what be free agents this offseason I seen Kawhi a little frustrated too so I seen he had never lost little frustrated, too, so. Hey.

I said he had never lost six games in a row nowhere. That's crazy. Like, in high school, college, no nigga ever has never lost six games in a row. He's a real winner. Yeah, he'll slide. Yeah, you know he'll get a battery on you. He'll give a fuck.

Kawhi a legend for sliding and getting a chip and dipping out. Love it. I would admire him. I ain't gonna lie. I wouldn't have never left Toronto. The shit, not for those reasons, but the shit they were saying. Toronto's a great city. But the shit they were saying, like, they was going to give them. I mean, man, unlimited restaurant.

You can eat for free forever. All that shit, bro. I'm that type of time. I could live here for free for the rest of my life. Y'all ain't going short. And I get a max deal. Healthcare already free. Shit, I would have been.

T would never pay for a chicken dinner in Toronto ever again. Ever again. I've been, they've been tired of me. No, put it on the bill. No. Y'all told me if I stayed.

He probably locked in with a spot so whenever he pull up out there, they show love. He not pulling up out there. I mean, anytime they play there, he probably get crazy love. I mean, every time they play there, he probably get crazy love. I mean, I'm the best rapper ever. I better.

Yeah. Is it? Nah, no disrespect Vince like that. All respect to Vince Carter because Vince Carter is one of the ones. Kawhi better. Than Vince Carter? Bro, you fucking wild. You crazy as hell.

Yup. Kawhi Leonard is not better than Vince Carter, bro. At they peak, bro. At they hell. Yup. Kawhi Leonard is not better than Vince Carter, bro. At they peak, bro. At they peak? Give me Kawhi. Man, you... At they peak, Vince Carter was the number one at All-Star votes. I'll let y'all do that.

No, look. If we're going to talk about who better, don't go to All-Star votes. That's crazy. It's a reason he was, bro. He was hard, bro. Nigga, he's... Of course, it's Vince Carter, bro. He was the best dunker ever.

He cold as hell. Nah, he was cold, bro. He could hoop, bro. He could hoop, bro. I'm not discrediting that. Vince Carter is elite, so is Kawhi. Kawhi elite. He ain't better than Vince Carter, bro. That's tough.

I'm rolling with Kawhi. If I got to go win a playoff series, give me Kawhi. When I seen Vince Carter go back and forth with Allen Iverson, bro, I knew he was different. They was both getting 50-point games and shit. Nah, man. For sure. That Eastern Conference battle was real.

Vince Carter is way more skilled than Kawhi. Facts, bro. You tripping, bro. But who you rather have, I fuck with it or Kawhi. That's all I'm saying. If I need to go to the playoff series or I need to go win this, give me Kawhi. Game seven game, I need Kawhi. I don't give a fuck

where we playing at. Give me Vince Carter, bro. I don't give a fuck. We could be playing pickup. Nigga, I don't give a damn. I need Kawhi. Fuck, where we playing at? You want Vince Carter, bro. I don't give a fuck. We could be playing pickup. Nigga, I don't give a damn. I want Vince Carter every single time, bro. Damn. Kawhi two-way though, bro. That's cool.

And it's a meaningful two-way though. Two-way with 30 and a 10. That's cool. He got two chips in two different places. Man, I ain't disrespecting nobody's championship. Nah, but he's effective. You ain't talking about the 12th places. I ain't disrespecting nobody's championship. Nah, but he's effective. You ain't talking about the 12th nigga. We're talking about the primary nigga,

bro. Vince was the primary nigga. And he wasn't, like, on that, what bro was saying, like, on some winning shit. Bro, he won in San Antonio. He had five Hall of Famers. Five! Bro, they were old as fuck, though. Man, what you mean?

They was cold. They was cold. They was still cracking it. They was cold. They was still cold. They was still killing. Tim Duncan was still effective. Mano was still good.

Kawhi's finals MVP in two different places. Now, we talk about that gold slice and getting hurt. I get it. Man, I'm like, for sure.

I'm not going to discredit it. But he was killing, though. He took some fucking Raptors, bro. Nah, I'm saying he wasn't killing, bro. Nah, I'm saying he to discredit it. But he was killing, though. He took the fucking Raptors, bro. Not saying he wasn't killing, bro. Not saying he wasn't killing. But, nigga, you did play just Steph Curry. Well, skill for skill, though, I would just take Vince, though. If we're just going off that.

But winning, you got to kind of, I guess. I mean, I feel you. It's a team game. You got to have a team. Carter ain't never really had the Raptors. He ain't had shit. Nah, he ain't had nothing. That's why I can't let you say he's a better Raptor. When he had J. Kid and them,

they probably underachieved. Yeah, but Orlando, it wasn't the same, Vince. Nah. I mean, he was still cold, but he was like, Raptors, Vince? Nah. And it was still the white team. Definitely. Shut up. Why y' Nah. And it was still the white team. Definitely. Shut up.

Why y'all laughing every time somebody say the white days, bro? Look, y'all think y'all talking. They done spit on the white, man. He was cold. I didn't mind.

I can't say he was cold, bro. Yeah, you can't even pause. You was athletic, bro. That's crazy. Pause player of the year year two times in a row yeah wow

you can't even say defensive that's wow nah could not say that that's crazy that little round the wife should get different

he an offensive nigga off the court anyway offensive I get it oh that's nice that's a good bar that was

that was some Wade shit right there that was some little Wade shit I get you that that's crazy that was some Wade that was some Wade

hey man why is Drake giving us new music after he said he's taking his time off of music to take oh they just

dropped some shit they just dropped it tomorrow well it'll be out when this episode comes out him and Cole it comes out him and Cole it ain't him and Cole

it's just him yeah he was people was disappointed with that album he probably gonna drop a real rap album tomorrow it'll be hard

if he do that so y'all can be happy I don't think that's what we're getting I hope it is them scary Irish joints I'll be throwaways

which I'm cool with anyway but if you're going on tour with J. Cole yeah I don't want to hear that you're gonna have some real rap with J. yeah, I don't want to hear that. You're going to have some real rap. You're going to have some real rap with J. Cole. Because you don't want to

lose that. That's definitely like a versus. It's low-key a versus. Low-key? Who will win, though, in a versus now that we're here? That's tough. And it's going to be Drake. Yeah, Drake got way more. But Cole's a better rapper. No, I'm nothing. Yeah, Cole's a better lyricist, for sure. Cole is definitely a better rapper.

Lyricist or rapper? Lyricist. He's a better Cole is definitely The better rapper For sure Lyricist or rapper? Lyricist He a better lyricist But rapper Making songs Rapper I'ma give Cole I mean Drake

But who you think like Hmm Nevermind Drake so versatile bro He a better artist I can't take I don't know about A better rapper though

Uh I That's tough That's tough Anytime somebody helped pin your shit before i don't think you could be a better rapper i mean you can't write cole is definitely a better rapper for sure did nobody pin 9 a.m dallas i'm not saying you can't rap all right i'm just saying i'm just saying i don't think you not when it comes to this level of rapping like it ain't like Cole. Topic comparisons.

Yeah, like, Cole is like an elite level rapper. So, like, are we going to say elite level versus elite level? It's like, you got your shit pinned a couple times. Like, you can't really fuck with me. These are all my thoughts every time. Yeah. I mean. But the Drake catalog is crazy.

I couldn't even call my nigga. I couldn't. I wouldn't dare do that. But as an artist. Oh, the best artist in the world besides Michael Jackson. And he might be better than Michael Jackson, though. Man, let's talk about something else. Disrespectful. Disrespectful.

I ain't say he's a better performer. He ain't got shit on Mike. He's not a better artist, bro. What? Nigga, name me Alright, let's be real I told you I don't do that statistically

Or what are you talking about? What the fuck, bro? We talking about like a real artist Like Mike didn't write a lot of his shit Also was a singer He was a singer Why is that acceptable though? Y'all niggas is crazy

Cause he's a singer Mike wrote a lot of shit, bro Even for other people. What are we talking about? Why are we comparing Michael Jackson to Drake? Because he just passed him for the most part.

Oh, that bullshit, that number one shit, that's... That's a fact. Man, that shit is so crazy. That's what I'm saying is statistically speaking. Because statistically speaking...

I ain't saying he better than Mike. I'm just saying. I know what you're saying, but I feel like gotta compare the times too i mean mike jackson mike had grown ass niggas crying he's the most no fucking social media nigga i didn't say he was a bigger artist no no what are you so what are you the most famous person probably ever michael jackson performs nigga on stage better than fucking Drake. I never said he wasn't a better performer. That's a part of artistry.

I never said he wasn't. It's a part of artistry. What are you talking about? I don't think he make better music than Drake. Man. Oh, yeah. That's tough. That's tough.

Drake can sing. He can rap. He can be on anybody's song. He can act like any motherfucker on a song. All y'all niggas That be on his side All the time About shit

Storytime with Teague Storytime with Teague Is full of shit How's that full of shit I don't think he make Name me 10 Michael Jackson songs That y'all name

I already told you I can't even name Future songs bro So DJ can do that But I'm nothing You can go Human Nature That's one

Lady in my life Thriller I don't even know Lady in nature. That's one. Lady of my life. Thriller. I don't even know Lady of my life. That's your fault. Who's Lady of my life? Who's Lady of my life? I don't know, bro. I don't know.

No, I'm saying. Everybody who black forces is cat. No, what I'm saying. Lady of my life. Nobody knows. You don't even know what the word is.

I would have to hear the song. I done said that about Future. Nigga, you not making a point. I'm saying that's your fault that you don't know the song. Nigga, about future you're not making a point man human nature you like it up i can't sing human nature everybody can see you with nature i don't know what it would start with how it go well here you go all right that's what i'm saying i ain't gonna sing it i do though swv everybody be sampling that but here we go the 520 music conversation i'm just saying bro you. I'm just saying, bro.

You come here and this nigga Michael Jackson is crazy. He got some good songs, but Drake got a lot of fire. Some good songs? It's crazy, bro. Some good songs.

Well, them nigga albums are crazy. Drake has nothing that can ever touch Thriller. It ain't even his best album. I ain't say he got... Bro, a lot of them albums is fire because people

were like fanatics, bro. And they gotta remember A lot of people Who was behind them Oh Yeah I mean That's the same crowd That brought Drake shit to

I ain't say today But that's why He got more That's why he got more Number ones Aw man I'm just saying bro Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson Had black people Support too bro It wasn't just white people For sure He got black people support too Y'all making my point Not like Michael Jackson bro

MJ was a god I'm not saying he wasn't You're trying to discredit this nigga's artistry bro Like what does Drake do Better than fucking Michael Jackson What His voice They never sing on the same level Oh no we not gonna do that What does Drake do better than fucking Michael Jackson? What? What? His voice dimmed.

They dimmer sing on the same level. Oh, no, we're not going to do that. DJ, move the fuck on this. Please, DJ, move the fuck on this. We are not going to do that. We are not going to act like Michael Jackson before when he got grown to sing. That shit sounded terrible. It's better than Drake. They both sound very bad.

This nigga said Drake sings better than Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson could not sing. Y'all gonna sit here and tell me Michael Jackson can sing. When he got past ABC 123, when that nigga started turning white. I'm the sort of guy, we're not doing this for clickbait. On my mama. We're not doing this for clickbait. I mean, it's real.

Like, we're not doing this for clickbait. When he started turning white, y'all gotta tell me his voice sounded good. Wait, you said, no, wait. You're gonna tell me he was Sammy Sosa. The voice did decline a little bit. Yeah, don't act like he was just blowing we're not doing this for clickbait

he didn't sing better than Drake is the Michael Jackson cannot sing bro I'm not clickbait I'm not trying to be I'm being for real bro

but you're saying Drake can sing no I'm saying he sing just as good as Michael Jackson it ain't that far off that's probably the worst shit

Michael Jackson cannot sing y'all gonna sit here and tell me that shit sound good bro it slaps he's the best vocalist this is a craze this is how i know niggas really don't be tapped into music you can't have no ear for music you're gonna say drake sings just as good as michael jackson Y'all really listening to that shit and saying, Billy, that shit does not sound fucking good. Whitney Houston can sing.

Them motherfuckers can sing. Faith Evans can sing. Nigga, Faith Evans can't sing better than no motherfucking Michael Jackson. Fuck out of here. Move on.

Move on. Are you fucking crazy right now? I don't, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? Way better than Michael Jackson's voice, bro. Michael Jackson cannot sing, bro. Look who y'all be vouching for.

I'm being for real, bro. If y'all go in there and listen to Michael Jackson, this shit is fucking amazing. Listen to him talk right now. But anyway, go ahead, man. What'd Mark Jackson do? Damn, man. Because y'all niggas laughing, man.

I'm still my nigga, though. Regardless. Mark Jackson got a song with Drake. Shit, he'd be hot right now. Wow, my nigga though regardless Mark Jackson got a song with Drake nah shit he'd be hot right now wow my nigga said Faith

bro turn on Michael Jackson when we get done we gonna turn on Michael Jackson so y'all gonna slowly tell me that this shit sounds amazing

like he hit all these amazing notes man please don't cancel us like we just got this shit started with him with the volume

please don't get us Michael Jackson make good songs. He make good culture music. You ever play the song with Drake and Michael Jackson on it? No. No, that sounds like a bad song. You're not gonna do that. It sounds like a bad song. Hey, man, what else we got? You're not gonna do that shit.

What else we got? Once he got past about 17, 18, that voice was weak. Now, to be fair, when he became an adult, yes, it definitely, the lure was going down a little bit. It was so solid, bro. It was Michael Jackson. He was trying to sing, bro.

His voice was so messed up. One day, they caught him on the mic. You seen that meme where he was talking his normal voice? You thought that D-Way shit was bad? Your DMs? Oh, just wait, brother. Please be refined when you say that. Just wait.

You're going to get fried. I ain't about to just wait, brother. Just wait. You're gonna get fried? I ain't about to get fried, bro. Because people know Michael Jackson couldn't sing like that, bro. He couldn't sing like that, bro. I don't care. Y'all cap it. R. Kelly can sing. Mark Jackson?

Like, who else can sing? Usher can sing. What's R. Kelly's best song? We're gonna remix to Ignition Honey Love I heard me inflating at my driveway one day recently

recently bro banging at my Tronster White hey my neighbor my neighbor Tronster White my neighbor was walking by walking the dog like

god damn I'm telling you he had this shit on 100. Why would you play that so loud? I catch Ubers to T's house. He's lying. Why would you play R. Kelly to Ubers?

But why would you play that so loud? I don't know what he's talking about. How y'all do me? I have no recollection of what this man is talking about. That nigga was begging that kill. We got topics on this whiteboard. Wow.

Let's just move on. Ah, this music shit blew me. I'm done. I was not expecting this at all. I'm just telling you, our Michael Jackson voice

was cat, but. That's crazy. Sounded like Rudy when he got choked out. That's out of pocket. Oh, God. Get you that. We got Adam's Apple ad,

nigga. Wow. Now you boss. Look at y'all. Look at y'all boy today. Y'all boy wildin'. Hey, we just said he got fined

25K to get choked out. It's crazy. I'll be mad at you. I didn't fight. I can't get fined for that. I swear to God, I can't get fined for 25K for a nigga choking me. It's crazy. I'll be mad at you. I didn't fight. I can't get fined for that. I swear to God, I can't get fined for 25k for a nigga choking me. Like, what are we doing, bro? I ain't getting nothing.

I ain't getting no push, shove, nothing. Appeal that. Yeah, you got to appeal that. They really be on that, though. I didn't know they was, like, really crazy with them fines like that on y'all. Yeah, you get fined for everything in the league. I remember they used to fine you for your shoes. That was the worst shit.

With the color change? Mm-hmm. Damn, how much was that? Shit, I don't remember. I remember they used to fine you for your shoes. That was the worst shit. With the color change? Mm-hmm. Damn, how much was that? Shit, I don't remember I used to apply. You got red,

you got red. Do you remember the highest fine in the league? That I got? This is a period. Is there anyone that's crazy?

I'm sure. I'm sure. She said he lost millions. God damn. Yeah, those texts and shit. Yeah,

because they, if you keep getting more, they go higher and higher. Yeah, those techs and shit. Yeah, because they, as you keep getting more, they go higher and higher. Yeah. That's crazy. Boy. Yeah, that's crazy.

Mike Conley made all that money and never got a tech. He's a good dude. He ain't really got no reason to. I think I probably got like 12. He just played a game. 12, 10 or 12.

Yeah, for real. Hey, that Chris Paul shit, he should got a tech. Shout out to Reese. He should do the ball in his face for that shit. That'd have been my first tech. Yeah. Yeah, for real? Hey, that Chris Paul shit, he should got a take. Shout out to Reese. He should do the ball in his face for that shit.

That'd have been my first take. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy, bro. That was a little dirty, bro. I ain't going to hold you. That was crazy. Yeah, that was a little dirty. Mike probably was like,

are you all right? Nah, I'm serious. That ass, he probably did his letter better than me. I would kick him. But anyway. Hey, man, Mark Jackson funny as hell.

Because he really told the Knicks, hey, he said, I didn't get fired from this job. I turned that shit down. Don't fucking speak on my name no more. Oh, he said that? He said, don't be, I'll take the high road, but not today. Oh, he ain't want to mess with Buddy on the coaching staff. He want to smoke with him. He's been quiet for a long time.

Him and Jalen Brunson's daddy. He got smoked with Rick Brunson oh he got smoked with Rick yeah I was like damn Rick my dog what happened with Rick hey Mark a wild nigga okay Rick

remember back in them boys forget the Memphis days hmm alright I'm gonna let that I'm gonna let that ride then shout out to Mark man the real T.D. Jackson

he said he was tired of motherfuckers putting that smut on his name though Rick I gotta call Rick, man. What's the beef? That's my dog. All right.

That's old nigga beef is my favorite beef. Because I love the fact that Isaiah Thomas still talks about Michael Jordan every chance he gets. It's my favorite thing ever. Yeah, like Mike ain't really him. And he be lying now, too. He's like, I didn't know Mike didn't like me till the last dance. Isaiah, stop it.

Come on, man. Oh, yeah. Now that's out of pocket. Mike's seen you disappear when it was time to shake hands. Yeah. Seen you duck your head. You been- Them niggas really hated each other back then.

Yeah. I think that's why they be so mad now at y'all, like- I really want to interview, don't say y'all I'm out. I really want to interview Isaiah Thomas. I would love to have Isaiah Thomas. Cause I love people that really cuss, like all the time. And that's him. Like, you know, when he do his interviews,

he be wanting to be like, bitch. He be like, you can tell. Yeah, I be like, come on our show, you can say it. Nah, that'll be a fire interview. We embrace cussing on our show. Oh, absolutely. That'll be a fire interview though. Yeah, fact.

He gotta speak the real though. Yeah, I think he would. I think he would. Get on here and tell us everything you had about Michael Jordan. Yeah, we need. That's the first time we miss him. So I can battle you back and tell him everything he'd do much better than you. Then you can tell me everything you'd do better than me.

I'll be like, nigga, you sad. We need Isaiah. We need Oak. We need Vernon. Yeah, we need Vernon. OG. We need all the fraud niggas, bro. I don't want Oak, bro.

Yeah, I guarantee. Yeah, we cool with Oak. Yeah, I don't want Oak. Nah, respect, but I'm cool.'all want oak nah respects but I'm cool damn he was nah I'm cool man

I ain't gonna lie though I do got an oakley story though I probably shouldn't tell this fuck it I'm gonna tell I played for the Atlanta Hawks

my rookie year I told y'all my trainer my trainer dude I worked out with was Tyrone Hill so off of you hey I don't know dude I worked out with was Tyrone Hill. So, hey, I don't know why they had me training with Tyrone Hill.

That's how much the Hawks cared about me over here. Right, G League, T. For sure. It wasn't even G League, that shit. D League at the time. Yeah, D League. So, we coming in, one of the dude named Dwayne Pharrell. That's my guy.

I love you, Pharrell. That's my dude, man. He cool as hell. He like, hey, T, come here. He like, watch this shit. T. Hill owe Oak some money. T. Hill ain't going in that motherfucker early. He going to wait till Oak get off that court. So we walking in.

I'm a rookie, so I had to go first. So I had to go early. We had to take the early bus. So we walking in there. They usually had a curtain closed because the team before you, the home team working out, shooting or whatever, you got to come on early bus. So we walking in there. They usually had a curtain closed because the team before you, the home team working out, shooting or whatever, you got to come on after them.

So they pulled a curtain. That nigga Oak just stay on the court. I'm like, Dwayne for real, like tapping me like, look, look, look, look, look, look. T-Hill like, walk up and be like,

come on T-Hill. He don't be like, come on T-Hill. He like, no, that nigga owe me money. He owe me money. He owe me money. I'm like, Oak, come get that money. So T-Hill. You know what I mean? Like, come on, T-Hill. He's like, no, that nigga owe me money. He owe me money. He owe me money. I'm like, Oak, I'm going to come get that money.

So T-Hill walk on the court. That nigga Oak just started throwing balls at that nigga, like, off the rack. Fool, fire. You give me my motherfucking money, bitch. I'm like, damn. It's a grown ass man. Like, I was crying, bro. Oak like, T-Hill like, Oak, man, chill out, man.

Chill out. He just firing basketballs at the nigga. Like, give me my money, bitch. You know, I'm a rookie. I'm like, I'm thinking they joking. So Dwayne for real like, no, that's serious. Like, Oak gonna smack him. And then like, a dude named Dre, our security dude, Peanut,

he walked in there and was like, come on, Oak. Chill out, chill out, man. And that's how me and Dre got cool because I started asking him all the questions. Like, man, what happened? He was like, oh no, Oak done smacked that chill out, man. And that's how me and Dre got cool because I started asking him all the questions. Like, man, what happened? He was like, oh, no. Oak just smacked that nigga before and everything. I'm like, damn.

My fault he healed, man. That shit was funny, though. He was firing basketballs at you, though. That shit was funny. Shout out to Oak. With the accuracy. Man, I'm talking about. Now Oak can come on the show.

Treat that nigga like it was dodgeball, nigga. Right. That's what I'm about to say. I said, what? Nah, that shit was funny. just to have basketballs next to you and have that in your body we was at

Charlotte we was coaching for the Bobcats man that shit was funny as hell hey that's crazy him working for the Bobcats is crazy

within itself but like you said for you to have that many basketballs cause at some point he had to go get them all he had them on the

rack so you know they put them on the balls on the rack it's probably like 12. It's like 12 of them soon. That nigga Kurt pulled back.

The uncle standing there. That nigga walked on the court. He just started firing at him. The motherfucker's at him like, damn. That shit was funny. Being rich, I owe the nigga money. It's funny. Yeah, he's like, pay me my money, bitch.

Pay me my money. Old guy, hella stories, man. Hell yeah. Hella stories. Man, that's, that's niggas who gamble live a different life. I don't care what type of life you live. It's either niggas who gamble or niggas who don't. Because niggas who gamble with money, bro, live totally different day to days.

I'm nothing on gambling, bro. See, I couldn't live that life. Knowing I owe niggas some money or something, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Playing cards, though, nigga. Playing cards, dice. Nah. At the casino. You be cards, though, nigga. Playing cards, dice. Nah. At the casino. You be up late night, nigga.

That's how that whole O.J. Mayo shit happened. What's up? Him and T. Allen. Yeah. T. Allen. Then wasn't Gilbert and O'Boy shit over some gambling shit, too? Javar? Yup.

Yup. See, that's why I knew what it meant for me to gamble. I don't need no schmuck. Them niggas get on them team planes to ask you where that money at. You ain't got nowhere to go. Yeah, and they know where you work, so they know you got it. That shit funny.

You get paid the same back as they get paid. Yeah, facts. That's crazy, because I even think about it, even with Mike, like the situation that they had, Mike going through, like, bro, you really was like here, and you had all this money, but you owe so many people money. Like, there is no way you was gonna get out paying your money. mj jordan yeah like the the desk he was on but there's no

way you could escape that yeah like that he had just like balances though like it wasn't like he had credit lines nigga but still if you see how much i talked about that credit line was real but i'm saying but that that's different when you gotta people when you gamble for real you get the credit line like at casinos and shit it's not it's not no real debt like that bro yeah i know it's just after a while like iris house when iris and that motherfucking uh antoine walker like niggas like all right bro you got it maxed out but jordan had a motherfucker like we could pay it but fuck y'all put 200 000 on the motherfucking blackjack, bitch. We got it.

That's like Charles Barkley when he got arrested. He was doing inside NBA. Yeah. That's my favorite shit ever. He missed a broadcast. I was like, yeah, he on vacation. That nigga was in the slammer. Because he owed a casino some bread from back in the day. I said, hell no.

This nigga in Vegas, they set you up. They see you down there spinning that cheese, nigga. They give you a private room. Get that nigga the suite upstairs. 400 floor. Private jet To fly you back Do some hoes up there

Make sure you eat good Dang shit Cause Vegas might be The only place That I've been to To gamble That walk around And get you liquor

Cause that motherfucker Shelbyville Shelbyville wasn't doing that When they first opened It's Indiana No I'm just saying Cincinnati No Cincinnati was

another one Shelbyville Birkinbad they got the real dice in that bitch now everything ain't on the machine

no more Shelbyville no but Kai Jones Pack is evident in Shelbyville my nigga what team

is he on now none damn man he gonna be on the team too hopefully but y' What team is he on now? None. Damn, man. He's going to be on the team too, hopefully. But y'all know, man, that NFL quarterback, that's different, man.

Because they could just go ride the bench and get another contract as a backup if you wanted to. Yeah, they're not going to sign him. He got that... There's too much

smut on his name. Yeah. There's too much smut on his name. Yeah, he might be able to sneak in there, though. He might be able to turn this. I'm telling you, bro. He can, bro.

He might be Bursette. What's his name? Jacoby Bursette. Yeah, he might be Bursette. Dang, that's this. I'm telling you, bro. He can, bro. He might be Bursette. What's his name? Jacoby Bursette. Yeah, he might be Bursette. Dang, that's crazy. I mean, look, the backup quarterback market ain't that good.

Injury with allegations is a lot to take on, man. But they're going to be far out though by the time. He beat the allegations, didn't he? That's like AD having allegations, bro.

It's kind of like nigga always heard you got a bunch of bullshit going on. He's still cute. That's what I'm saying, though, bro. Shout out to Eddie pushing that nigga, too. I was excited about that.

Everybody was wild tonight in the NBA. Oh, yeah. Nigga was on that. He did push him. He pushed the shit out of him. He's out of pocket. The whole shit with Draymond this morning, that shit started with Klay.

I'm like, damn, niggas fighting Klay Thompson? That's crazy. Don't grab my jersey, though, bro. I'm like, are we hooping? There's no reason to grab my jersey, though, bro. Yeah. I'm like, are we hooping? There's no reason to grab my jersey, bro. What are we doing?

I still need to... Belly retired this year. Shout out to Belly, man. I slapped him in the game. Legit slapped him. My fault, Belly. That's my fault. That was some

ho shit right there. I got a turnover and I just got mad. He was the closest nigga I just slapped him So you skipped to my loop I did The real Oakland

He was so mad bro He was so bad He told me he was gonna kill me Why though bro Why would he Damn I feel him though Belly

Bellanita Whatever you say his name Shout out to my dog I had to play with him In Minnesota Pause like We can't see him In Minnesota Did y'all address that Oh as soon as I walked In the locker room He was like hey I was gonna fuck you up brother name. Shout out to my dad. I had to play with him in Minnesota pause like we can't teammates in Minnesota.

Did y'all address that? As soon as I walked in the locker room he was like hey I was gonna fuck you up brother.

I was gonna kill your whole family. Don't do that again. I said Billy. I looked at him like nigga shut the fuck

up. He figured I'd be joking all the time. Me and him became cool but he was pissed. I did.

I slapped that nigga. Ran down the court. It didn't get attacked nothing. They bitch went crazy. I did. I slapped that nigga. Ran down the court. It didn't get attacked nothing. They bitch went crazy.

I'm sure bro gonna find the highlight. I just look for it. I can't wait. I saw the guy slap the

shit out of that nigga. You gonna see it. Y'all gonna cry laughing. I like grabbed him.

Bam. Cause I would have been so shitty that you slapped me and you going to the next place. Ran down the

court. They bitch was going crazy. I was bugging. He was was going crazy. But that's nearly her there. I was bugging. You was wilding, bro. Bugging, bro.

You got some of the best highlights that people don't know about. That's going to be a funny ass highlight. Because I laugh every time. Shout out to Gorgie. Gorgie was like, he's a fucking loose cannon, man. Get this guy off the court. I was wild. I was so bad.

Oh, shit. That's what's so funny with Dre. My airbender's like, he doesn't belong in our game doing this stuff. He only got suspended five games, bro.

It's only five. That's a light charge. Man, Dr. J and them niggas was really fighting, bro. Facts, man. In playoff games. And they was just all playoff. They was like on hockey type time.

Because everybody would have been getting suspended back in the day, bro. They couldn't do that shit. Speaking of hockey, oh boy, they doing an investigation. You're going to get a manslaughter. Ooh.

I told you. Yeah. That's crazy. But it's so crazy is you can't even, I mean, you can, I guess, to an extent,

but like, that's kind of hard to even say a nigga did it on purpose without like getting a confession. Even though it's some weird that's crazy i just i i'm staying out of that one i don't want to see a man go to jail this freak accident yeah he did kind of yeah like that's the character that's just a little bit like what you on bro you know we got these blades right here. For a motherfucker to die behind that door, bro.

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying a freak accident, like, he wasn't trying to kill him. He probably did. Oh, shit. Yeah. He probably was like, I just want to slice that nigga. It's like when niggas get in a fight, and, like, he fall, hit his head, nigga die. You like.

I wanted to knock him out, but I wasn't trying to kill him. Yeah. He probably, I wanted to slice this. That's what Jake Shuttlesworth. That's a good one. Yeah. Exactly. So that's what you say to Jake Shuttlesworth. That's a good one. Yeah. Don't do Jake like that. Jake was mad at Jesus.

Nigga, you killed my mom. I'm not supposed to fucking like you. That's crazy. That's one of the worst basketball movies. This is him being mad at the nigga. I know you hate me. Yes, nigga, you killed my mom. I do fucking hate you.

Let's talk about acting in that movie. That's one of the worst acting jobs I've ever seen. Jesus Shuttlesworth definitely had an IEP. Yes. He was was never mind wow he definitely he definitely

was chosen on that one he was a terrible acting boy he could have played on Pike don't disrespect my team don't disrespect the Pike Raiders we seasons around the corner man

lock in guys y'all shouldn't be watching this Jesus Shuttlesworth but he was called I'm just expecting to probably break that. We seasons around the corner, man. Lock in guys. Y'all should be watching this. Jesus Shuttlesworth. Is that the worst acting? Okay. I'll give y'all that.

I'll give y'all that. It's one of them. For sure. To be a good movie and have an A-list actor like Denzel killing Israel. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Ray Allen like, I don't want you. I am Jesus. Yeah. But I don't like you. Jake. That nigga's reading off the Jumbotron. They like, I don't want you. I am Jesus. Yeah. But I don't like you, Jake. That nigga was reading off the Jumbo Tron. They like, read it again?

I don't like you, Jake. And what's fucked up is Ray Allen can really talk. He articulate, but he was just like, that is not our dad. It's different when you acting though, bro. Well, I tell you not to talk to strangers. Didn't I tell you that? His uncle was a piece of shit. Yeah, I'm glad.

I wonder if motherfuckers really be getting them type of recruitment trips, though. Hell, yeah. I didn't. Damn. Wait for it. They hand me a textbook.

Excuse me? Yeah. Nah, I'm just playing. You, though. You get that kind of treatment. Shout out to the Hoosiers. Damn, you got that. That's one of the Kevins there. Mm get that kind of treatment Shout out to the Hoosiers Damn you got That's one of the

Kevins there Mmhmm Yeah Shout out to Coach Samson Who was my nigga at Tennessee Light skin nigga Bruce

Bruce Bruce Pearl He in Auburn now Ah you know what Bruce is on Shout out to Bruce Yeah that's what I'm saying Yeah Shout out to Rick Pitino

Yeah Rick Pitino Take it to the strip clubs That's why Drake hard That bar he out to Rick Pitino yeah Rick Pitino take it to the strip clubs that's why Drake hard that bar he said about Rick Pitino yeah that's hard stop speaking on my school in the U.K.

Kentucky he don't fuck with you oh here we go fuck him anyway yeah hey Uncle Rick back in college basketball

like it's supposed to be man I don't know how good St. John's is what is that St. John's yeah yeah I seen him get beat the other day hey that's hate

that's hate. That's hate. No disrespect, Uncle Rick. Uncle Rick slammed him this podcast. They made my man fight in Greece to come back to NCAA, bro. Good, because he didn't recruit me. I got hurt. Nah, it's all good, man. My bad.

It's all good. What they going to do with Zach Levine, man? Free Zach Levine, dog. Free everybody on the Bulls. They're an unserious team. The Lakers look like they don't want none of the role players

they signed back. All them niggas they talking about they got bargains for. Now y'all hate all of them right now. Not Cam Reddish. I told y'all.

Killer Cam is back. I know I'll fuck with Cam. I'm happy for Cam Reddish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a real start. He better than Austin Reeves. He had a real start. I ain't going to say that.

Nah, he is. He way more talented than Austin Reeves. Talented for rough start. I ain't going to say that. Nah, he is. He's way more talented than Austin Reeves. Talented for sure, bro. For sure. But I'm talking about impact on the game right now. I ain't going to say that. Because Austin Reeves do his thing. He do.

But let Cam get comfortable. He can do everything Austin Reeves can do. And he's 6'10". 6'8". 6'9". Baby steps. Respect to Cam. Baby steps.

Nah, bro. I'm a firm believer in Cam Reddish, bro. I played alongside. I'm a firm believer in Cam Reddish bro I played alongside I was a teammate of his and I used to be like bro you could be cold cause he got the package

bro pause I'm talking about the skill set y'all be wilding on the show god damn what shit the offensive skill set

is there though I guess I should say that nah he do got he got game though what do you think is you think it's just confidence or you think it's just confidence or you think it's just opportunity?

Opportunity, confidence, it's all one thing. But when you have a moment in the NBA where you have a bright moment and something clicked, like, ah, shit, I can do this. I got my role and I think he had that moment,

like, cool, bet. Bron and them gonna do this. I can get 15, 16 easy now. I just gotta make my shots They need him more than he think Yeah, and he can guard Like a motherfucker Yeah

I agree That's one thing I would say his defense is You could tell he like Alright, cool Like, I mean, I scored 15 But I can at least go do my I'm gonna lock up

I mean, I think the Lakers Should get Zach Levine I think it makes sense for them They don't need All them role players Realistically You don't need all them role players You need somebody to get to him I don't want them to have Zach Levine, I think it makes sense for them. They don't need all them road players. Realistically. You don't need all them road players. I don't want them

to have Zach Levine though. I'd rather them have DeMar. I don't... I'll fuck with DeMar. I don't think that that helps the Lakers or DeMar. You know why I don't want

Zach Levine? Because he can't guard. He take away from like Cam. Like Debo don't take away from Cam. Like, Cam can still be him because Deebo like a facilitator, a passer. Brian only playing 25 minutes, 26 minutes. You can put the ball in his hands and he can make shit happen. I don't know if you can put the ball in Zach Levine's hand

and he can make these niggas better. No, he got to go get a bucket. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely got to go get a bucket. DeMar need to go, I think, just because he ready to win. He deserve a shit, bro. He need to go somewhere where he can win. I agree.

Like, I ain't saying Zach don't deserve to win, but DeMar is more fitting for a shit. Well, where do you put DeMar, then? That I don't know. Tell me out of Lakers, bro. Like, a lot of teams are just filled up right now that are the top teams. Zach Levine need to go to, like, Minnesota.

Don't say that. Ironically. I was going to say, spinning the block with Minnesota is crazy. Even though he didn't play the first time. He would, though.

He, like, compliment. That's a good wing, though. Yeah, he'll compliment Ant a little bit because he don't, he can get buckets, but he a catch-and-shoot nigga. Like, he shoot a lot of threes. That's why I say him on the Lakers make a lot of sense. Yeah, but he a catch and shoot nigga. He shoot a lot of threes.

That's why I said him on the Lakers make a lot of sense. Yeah, but the Lakers need another nigga that can Caruso. They get Caruso back. Bring back Elmer Fudd. I wish they would have just grabbed DeMar while they could, bro. They needed that DeMar, Buddy Hill.

I mean, but they said because of Kyle Lowry. He said that's why that didn't happen. They was going to slide there together. He said that dissolved. They definitely got Buddy Hill. They should get Buddy Hill. Somebody like this? Yeah. I mean, but they said because of Kyle Lowry. He said that's why that didn't happen. They was going to slide together and he said that dissolved. They definitely got Buddy Hill. They should get Buddy Hill now. They need somebody else.

They need a bucket getter, but just a dude that just shoot. I think they need a little more. I think they need somebody that can create too. Outside of the Clippers,

what teams have underachieved to y'all so far that was supposed to be? Milwaukee Bucks, but it's going to take time. Now, Milwaukee, they need one.

Chris ain't, Chris, he ain't blending in right. Now, they need like Buddy Hill. They do. Yeah, they need Buddy Hill. And I would cry

if we sent him to a division rival. So I'm just saying they need Buddy Hill. They do. Yeah, they need Buddy Hill. And I would cry if we sent him to a division rival. So I'm just saying, they need Buddy Hill. They need just a... The Lakers need Chris Middleton. That's who they need. I agree, bro. I'd rather have Deebo than Chris Middleton.

Chris might fit more, though. But he really can carry your team if you need him to. Chris might fit more. That ain't a bad take. Chris still gonna play defense? Play with. Chris is locked up. Hell yeah.

No, I'm not questioning his ability. I'm just saying, I know he older. Is he still gonna? That nigga ain't even that old. He just look like he's fucking old.

Yeah, he just look old. That nigga probably 22. Nah, wait a minute. He like 30. That nigga right 30. Like maybe right at 30.

Yeah, I think like 30. He just look like he played for 20 years. I don't know why I would make him all that. My bad, Chris right at 30. Yeah, I think like 30. He just look like he played for 20 years. Oh, I want to make him all that. Man, my bad, Chris. This face.

You know what's funny? When you be looking at the old nigga highlights of the NBA, and you realize that was like 26 with like the cul-de-sac. They be looking hella old, dog. Yeah, them 70s vibes is crazy. When Mike was 25, he looked like he was like 33. Nah, for sure. The weakest. Hey, he looked like he was like 33. Nah, for sure. Hey, Ewing looked old his whole life.

Him and Morgan Freeman, they always just look old. Twisties. That was a lot of them niggas, bro, that look like that. It was the hair, though, that did it. I'm like, damn. Kareem was always weak. From Luau to Kareem, nigga. He did look old.

His whole life. UCLA, Luau, crazy. That nigga look like he was in the OJs. That nigga always look old. Bro, no nigga like that for me. Kevin Willis. I ain't never seen a young Kevin Willis. Or I never seen Bill Russell, R.I.P. R.I.P. Bill Russell always look old. Bill Russell never look young, though. like that for me. Kevin Willis. I ain't never seen a young Kevin Willis. Or I never seen Bill Russell, R.I.P.

R.I.P. Bill Russell. Bill Russell never look young, though, bro. I swear to God. Never knew Bill Russell was 21. They all, Morgan Freeman, bro. That nigga and Lena on me. Morgan Freeman don't have baby pictures, bro.

No. That nigga ain't real, bro. He's an alien or something. He can't be, bro. He grew up with Bill. He's still living. Bro, that nigga was 50-something and Lena on me, bro. That shit came out before I was born, bro. Smoke crack, don't you? And he was 50, bro. It's still living. Bro, that nigga was 50-something and lean on me, bro. That shit came out before I was born, bro.

Smoke crack, don't you? And he was 50, bro. It's not wasted. He probably close to like 85, 86. Go ahead and kill him off, bro. Go ahead. Oh, no. I don't want to kill Morgan yet.

You can't, nigga. He'll last all of us. Yeah, he'll be the last nigga on the airbrush, too, we was talking about. I'm going to put Morgan on the Airbus team. Morgan Freeman got to be 98, bro. No, not that though. But I'll put him. How old do you think Morgan Freeman is?

Is he older than Samuel L. Jackson? That's another nigga that I know. Yeah, for sure. He never looked young. I never knew when he was 21. He never was. And coming to America, he was 52. That's who your boy look like, who we just talked about.

He look like Samuel L. Jackson. Who? The nigga you play with on the Bucs. Chris? Chris. He's 86. He's 86? Morgan?

Morgan Freeman, 86 years old, bro. God damn, he look like a good looking guy. About two presidents left. God damn. No, he got one. 86 is crazy, bro. He got one. He still got hoes 86?

Morgan Freeman still getting bitched. For sure. He was dating a younger girl that he got in trouble for. His granddaughter? His step-granddaughter? Yeah, he was out of pocket. His what? Yeah, it was his step-granddaughter, bro.

Ah, Morgan, you got to kill him up. Oh, yeah, he did. That's weird. He might be first on the R.I.P. shirt. Your step-granddaughter? Yeah, bro. Bro, that's out. Oh, come on. What kind of weird shit? We can move on. Hollywood is funny, bro. Step-granddaughter yeah bro bro that's out oh come on

what kind of weird shit Hollywood is funny bro step-granddaughter that's a hell of a that's a name right there that's crazy step-granddaughter yeah I ain't never heard of that one

the real Bruce Almighty we ain't even really claiming them I don't want no step-granddaughter nah me either go find that other thing step-granddaughter go find the real lineage a step-grand granddaughter's ass bro

I don't want no step granddaughter and here's a family that you don't want is the worst thing ever nah I'm bullshitting I ain't gonna do that a step granddaughter

nah I don't want that bro cause my family will take on for sure like we do that so I'm bullshitting damn respect to the lineage nah for sure but a step granddaughter I'm trying to even like the lineage nah for sure but your step granddaughter

I'm trying to be like I was just talking shit you know at the under Christmas tree play everybody name when they're oh damn I might have

a step granddaughter that bitch is probably 40 yeah if little bro have a kid damn yeah that's a better date

than all right he a nasty nigga. Bro, he out of pocket, bro. Dayton. Peace, son, daughter. Oh, man, he was a nasty fool. He was never my favorite actor anyway. He was good in Lean on Me, though.

Classic film. You smoke crack, don't you? Classic film. Asking a kid if he smoke crack is crazy. The fact that people were smoking crack at 15 at that time is wow. That's why I don't have no respect on them old niggas, bro. Y'all was doing way worse shit, bro. Because at some point, niggas linked up to smoke crack.

So you had to call somebody to say, hey, bro, you trying to smoke this crack with me? And that's why I fuck y'all. Because that's a wild phone call. They did use to smoke crack in groups. Yeah, facts, bro. Yeah, nigga, they couldn't dole out. No, no. They couldn't afford it.

Crack was $10, though. They couldn't afford it. They didn't know that it was going to be crack heads. No, they, bro. Yeah, nigga, that wasn't Dola. No, no. They couldn't afford it. Crack was $10, though. They couldn't afford it. They didn't know they was going to be crackheads. No, they didn't, but the fact is... They said the nigga who smoked crack before them.

Who did? They weren't pioneers of smoking crack. Somebody started the train, nigga. Yeah, that's correct. I'm talking about the originators. The OG crackheads.

The OG crackheads. The OG crackheads. They are. More than free, man. I can't see them He's still alive. They are. More infremen. I had to see the gas station

about a BP. He had to be 92. Talking about you can spare a dollar, OG.

I gave him 100. Turn up, bro. Go crazy. Go crazy. Get an eight ball.

Go crazy. Get an 8-ball. It's funny, little bitch. Go crazy, bro. Wild out. Go crazy. I don't know how they live so long, bro. Shout out to the lineage, man. Damn.

Every crackhead on 40th is still alive, bro. And they can barbecue. They'll die. They just wash cars. For sure. And niggas can barbecue. S they can barbecue. For sure. They just wash cars. For sure. Them niggas can barbecue. Swear to God. I'm not eating crackhead barbecue.

Bro, them niggas is cold on the grill. Handyman, too. Man, I swear to God. No respect. Handyman. Yeah, bro. I swear to God. Those benefits.

They fire on the grill, bro. For my life. Before we get out of here, please tell me where you had crackhead barbecue. I did. I still have it at Target and Park. You probably got a lot of family. Yeah, that's fucked up.

But I do got some family that's questionable. I got respect. But they caught on the grill, nigga, and they'd do that motherfucker in some Timberlands. And it'd be 98 outside. Oh, yeah.

You can't have on good shoes. If you don't got some out-of-pocket shoes on when you barbecue, I don't respect it. If you barbecue in good shoes, you ain't really like that. Yeah, well, that's crazy.

You got to have the... Man, them niggas do got a lot of talent, bro. I swear to God, bro. A lot of important shit. Like, no things are essential. Bro, they can fix anybody's car. Facts, bro.

Motherfuckers know how to do drywall, any type of shit. Yeah. And they do it for the love. Motherfuckers tear off a roof, but the Mexicans took over that. All right. And on that note,

we'll be back next week, hopefully. Like, share, subscribe, all that good shit. Club 520. We out. This is an iHeart Podcast.