Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jeff Teague talks Tracy McGrady-Vince Carter Raptors, Gilbert Arenas on ESPN First Take

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 39 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys discuss NBA moves that they wished could’ve or should not have happened. Jeff wishes Tracy McGrady stayed in Toronto with Vince Carter in what would’ve been the best duo of wings since Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. The guys then discuss the media landscape of the NBA changing after Gilbert Arenas appeared on ESPN First Take and absolutely crushed it. Timeline  0:00 - Student vs teacher games 7:00 - Prep vs public school 15:00 - Trades you wish didn't happen 24:00 - Mexican gas stations 40:00 - Hendricks experience 44:00 - TNT crew #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. The Volume. All right, man, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. Same gang with me to my left. I got my dog, Bishop B.

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It was like, be him that switched up. He ain't the Isidore Ambassador no more. I'm still Isidore Ambassador. I was the Isidore Ambassador all the way in San Fran at the Hennessy Park.

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You got you what? I'm chilling, man. Cool. Hey, man, we seen the highlights, man. Why you picking on your high school kids like that, man? Oh, man. Shout out to Mountain Mountain. Clicked it up. Yeah, I just be trying to practice with them sometimes just to give a different energy.

You know what I mean? On the court, I come talking crazy. And they get hyped to play against against me and they want to beat me and bro felt a way about that still yeah I was like I told him

I be trying not to play too serious I try to like keep it cool so I don't really like run them over nobody get hurt

like I got hurt playing y'all coach but he's like I'm about to dunk it I was like nah he not gonna dunk it

he would've went crazy yeah I was like he not about to dunk it I was like nah he not gonna dunk it he would've went crazy yeah I was like he not about to dunk it I'm gonna go block it or whatever but knowing him he was gonna fall so I still was a little nervous

like you know I heard him laughing so I was like cool but imagine if you would've got the chance to dunk on Larry Bullinson oh my god I would've tripped

I would've clipped him out the ear I imagine he was running on the break I would've clipped him that's a wild visual anyway I swear

that's the funny part I would have loved for him to go for a re-biologist elbow do an LB like that you would have definitely been a door for his first

thing smoking I swear I would have crashed out for it I know it's not close to the same but those two faculty games

niggas used to try to get that shit off on the teachers bro I used to wish I could play. That's crazy. I used to have them, bro. We never got that. They still do that at Pike.

I played in the last year. I played in the last year. I seen Christian hitting that shot. I said, damn, we never got that type of love. So that's not like a homecoming type thing? No, I mean, when I was in high school, our team, we played against some of the black teachers. It was the only people who wanted to play.

It was like some pep rally type shit. Oh, okay. It was cool. Niggas called Mr. Dobbs. People had been waiting to catch Mr. Dobbs since middle school. He was like, yeah, we finally grown now. Get your ass out here. He was like, take it easy on me.

No, nigga, we waited on this for 10 years. That's hard. It's time. That's definitely hard. I know. I know my boy Antoine would have loved to play Murray Bullinson. Shout out to Antoine Collins. My boy, boy, brother.

Listen, his senior year, that was his junior year, right? He started everything his junior year. He played all the time. He, he ended up getting cut from the,

uh, the sectional team. Nobody knows why. Bullington just cut him. Like, he's not playing section. So, we like,

what? Like, everybody like, what the fuck? Like, he section. So, we like, what? So, everybody like, the fuck? Like, he started. Yeah, throughout the year, this dude started. So, we all confused, like, what you do, bro? And he makes straight A's. So, we like, what you do? He's like, I don't know.

So, we go to practice that day. Antoine come to practice. He on the scout team. Antoine steal the ball three times in a row. First time, he dunk it. Boom. He looked at Larry Boone tonight. Second time, he dunked it. Boom. He steal the ball three times in a row. First time he dunk it. Boom. He looked at Larry Bulletin like, hmm.

Second time he dunked it. Boom. He steal the ball three times in a row. The last time Larry, like, second time he dunked it, he looked at him,

Bulletin was like, if you look at me like that again, get your ass out of my fucking gym. That's why I dunked it again and stole that bitch and hung on the rim

and was like, he was on the back because it flipped him off. Bro, he cried, bro. It was rolling. And then he was like bro he cried bro it was rolling and then he was like get the fuck out by Joe Antoine I was like

I ain't going no fucking way he's like well the police will be on their way and Antoine was like I'm out niggas that was the last about the Antoine hoop

the A hoop no more that is crazy bro man shout out to Antoine he could hoop too that's a crazy part. He was really good. That shit was funny as hell, though.

He put that nigga off. Rahul was crying. That's an example of your coach being in your way, though. That's a fact. Most definitely. Larry Bullen's a really fucked up Antoine Hoop career. You be really telling stories, like, factual shit. Like, that's a prime example of what niggas been saying, bro.

Yeah, he was definitely in his way, bro. He didn't, like, he ain't do nothing wrong. He had straight A's. Nigga played hard every time. Nigga started some games. Yeah. So, he glad my boy didn't crash out, man. He living a hell of a life, man. He got a beautiful family. Yeah, he kept his grades up and kept

going to school, and then he mattered, but he definitely, he definitely. That is a wild ass boy. He went out with a bang pulse for real. Don't get this backer to flip him off. Oh, bro. See, Malc should have been there for that. Oh, that real would have been viral. Everybody that was on that team that year, they know.

They know. And so I think he watched the show too. He going to probably laugh about that shit. Shout out to bro. That's funny that you mentioned that. Before we get to the funny shit, I wanted to ask you about this. We had a conversation a couple weeks back. You mentioned this about

how basketball can break your heart. And I've been seeing a lot of kids, like, you know, seniors in a row, basically trying to figure out what they're going to do with those when they're playing basketball. But now I've been seeing

a lot of kids, like, talk about what they're going to do. And I keep seeing these AAU announcements for, like, sixth graders. It's like, please talk to the people about how basketball is

life to an extent, but still be fucking kids, please. Yeah, I mean, part of being, part of playing basketball, it's a kid's game. Like, basketball is a kid's game. Essentially. Yeah, it could turn into a job

if you're good enough, you do it right. But it's a kid's game. You're supposed to have fun, first and foremost. Like, if it's not fun to you, if you make it a job at five six years old you're not gonna love it like who loves working when you five or six years old i hated school at five or six like

yeah it was school was easy it might came easy to all of us but we hate it going like you don't want to go to school on saturdays you want to watch cartoons you want to be a kid so you got to make sure it's still enjoyable. And I think that's the most important thing. Make sure it's still enjoyable. It's still a kid's game. Make sure you're still having fun. At a certain point,

you might have to choose and pick, like pick and choose a sport that you really love, that you really enjoy playing or whatever you like doing. But before you get to that age, man,

just enjoy playing the game. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm seeing fucking sixth grade parents making life decisions. Bro, let them be kids. They still got a lot of time to grow up. But that's just all because shit your parent is trying to, you know,

live their dreams out through you. That's mad like 99% of the time, bro. Like, it's a lot of the, like, even great college players, you see them just sitting down at the game just watching their kid, bro. They probably, I don't know how they treat them in the car or whatever, but in the public eye, it's kind of like they ain't like the OD daddy

that just got out of jail. Kill that bitch ass nigga, son! La la la! Really, for real, bro, there's really be a bunch of single moms at the game, so they don't know, bro. They just had a kid. They play sports.

So it should be difficult. No, that's a fact. Like I had a, this is crazy. It was a little kid. One of the homies' kids came up to us, came up to me.

We played a game last Tuesday. And I seen the little kid. I'm like, hey man, you coming to Pike? Like just joking around. He like in fifth grade, fourth grade. He told me, man, I'm like, hey man, you coming to Pike? Like, just joking around. He like, in fifth grade, fourth grade, he told me,

man, I'm going to a prep school. And it threw me off. And I was like, what? Like, you know what I mean? Like,

now I'm going to go prep. Yeah. I'm like, damn man. Like, that's crazy that you kind of gearing your mind up already to be like,

yeah, I'm going prep school. I get it. Social media and all that stuff that you're going to do that. But people don't understand. You got to build yourself up like your foundation got to be where you from. Like you got to kill where you at.

And then anybody that's going to be a good player, I truly believe this. You got to be good at making other people better. but if you go to a prep school where there's other great players and all this other stuff you're never going to develop into the player you want to be because you always got a handicap yeah like i got other people yeah i can make everybody else everybody else around me nice too yeah they can make my job easier the goal is to make your job harder so when you get in them rooms with five stars and all that stuff, when they become easier for you, you're going to shine like a diamond because I can do everything.

You can put me in any position. I can rebound, I can score, I can shoot. I can do all that stuff because I had to do that before because I was on a team where we didn't have all these talented people. So I had to overdo stuff just so our team could be competitive I think Gilbert kind of figured that out too with his son his son had to do everything for their team to win

and now he's shining like a diamond because when he go to these other places and you get to play him one on one he been playing one on three his whole time now you got to guard a one on one he look crazy it's Christmas but people like to take the easy road or play on these super high, all these top five kids on their team, on AAU teams,

and they ain't really getting no better. They around good players, but they not getting better. So does prep schools only benefit kids that are already going to Duke, UConn, Nova, stuff like that? Who does that really benefit? To me, prep schools is for kids who maybe you're struggling academically and you need help academically. Or prep schools for a kid that's already nationally ranked top 10, top 5, and you're trying to get your national rank higher because you play a nationally ranked top 10, top five,

and you trying to get your national rank higher because you play a nationally ranked schedule. But the thing is, if you're that good, your high school team will play a nationally ranked schedule. Because I watched Marcus, my brother, be the number two player in the nation at Pike, and they got offers to play all these nationally ranked schools. So if you that guy,

they gonna come to you. Like the kid going to Duke out of Texas next year, I can't even remember his name. His team finally going to the state championship in Texas, but he lit. You know what I mean? Yeah. But if you that guy, they'll come to you. I seen it so many times. You know what I mean?

What about the cold kid that he nice? he's just like a i don't know like a dane willer like a cj mccullum like a john morant you recommend them just stay down till they come up or if you know you say six six wing should i stay in my school i don't got that many offers. Or should I go prep? Like, I'm nice. I know I can compete. I just ain't been.

I'm a late bloomer. See, the thing is, you got to go where you celebrate. Right? Talk about it. If somebody, I'm nice, but Weber State my only offer,

I'm going to go to Weber State and kill. Like, I'm not going to say, I'm going to go prep and go to Duke, where it might be seven, five stars, but I wasn't on y'all radar. That's a fact. I had to do some extra shit to get on your radar.

And even if I did get on your radar, I wasn't your first option. Right. Weber State, I'm your first option. I want to go where I'm your first option. I don't want to be your, like,

we told the story about me at IU. I was the eighth dude on the list. Like, I don't want to be your eighth pick. Because you're really not happy with me. You're like, I got it. It's cool. You don't expect much from me. But Weber State, if they're your first option and they love you,

you got to go where you celebrate it. That's where you're going to get your best opportunity. Just because you go to Duke, there's people that sit on the bench at Duke. And transfer. It's five stars that go to Duke and sit the bench. Yeah, we saw it in high school. I mean, I was going to transfer down respectfully it's five stars that go to Duke and sit the bench yeah we saw

we saw it in high school I just I mean I was gonna say but I it's better coming from you cause you actually been a part of it but

George Hill went to IEPY and went and killed Lee went to West Kentucky went and killed first round picks by the way they could've went to IEPY

I mean IU Purdue Texas all these schools but they went where they was loved yeah yes sir you know i mean that was they was a first option just never know what hoop though because bro like i like i said of course you played and you've been doing this shit she was legit but seeing players like jaleel uncle for like dominate high school dominate

college like that shit is crazy to see him not pan out in the NBA. Like I ain't going to say he ain't pan out because make it to the league. So when we say pan out, like make it to the league. I mean, like he's supposed to, Jaleel Oglethorpe was like a skill big. He is. So I felt like he was, he could fit in today's game. I just didn't know what the drop off was. It's just the NBA is so, the NBA people, it's so normal to us, right?

Because we run into people every day that's in the NBA. We talk on a podcast, people in the NBA. It's not normal. Like, not to be like that about myself, but this is not normal. Yeah. Like, you don't run into NBA players every day. You can now because we're more accessible,

but it's so hard to make it to the NBA. There's so many great players that did make it to the NBA. Yeah, facts. And then, like, to make it, you're special, bro. So, like, Jaleel Hopeford is special. I know we don't really look at it like that. So many people can say whatever they want on the internet, YouTube. Everybody got a voice.

He sad, he ass, he weak. Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But these dudes is really like one of ones. Like all these dudes that make it to the league are really special basketball talents. And Jahliel O'Ford, like you said, he dominate high school, college. Man, raw. And I feel like his game fit today's NBA. Like I said, I feel like shit.

He didn't get worse. I just, his players like that. Like Adam Morrison, bro. Yeah, but you gotta think It's like The NBA is all about Opportunity And um

Sometimes your opportunity Can be Kinda fucked up Like he was the number two Pick in Philly He's starting He damn near was Almost rookie of the year

He was killing He was hooping He was averaging 20 But you got Joel Embiid On the bench, hurt, waiting in the wings. He gets healthy. He dominates in practice.

People like Joel Embiid is our best player. You still on the team. Yeah. It's quiet. Yeah. And then he was in a situation, like you said, opportunities. Crazy.

That was a trust and process situation, bro. They was on bullshit. Now it's quiet. Then you want injury away from you it's a rat you know i mean so it was just an opportunity thing and it was kind of messed up but it happens to a lot of people for sure i mean we can go down the list like jamal crawford i mean jordan crawford he come to a team with jamal crawford on there. You know what I mean? One of the few people on our team. And you get traded to Washington.

And it's Bradley Bill and John Wall. Just the opportunities. That's true. It's just opportunities. It's part of life. I love that point that you said. I know people joke on the internet. We do it too sometimes.

But if you make it to the NBA, you're successful. You succeeded a lot. You're one of the coolest players to ever pick up a mic. Millions of people are dreaming of doing it every day. We might be the only pod media outlet that talks about 9 through 12 or 9 through 15 type.

All those people are very successful in life. They're really good at what they did for their living. They're really, really good at even like for one year, bro. They did more for their family than a person working in an auto pop. That's no shame to nobody, but the people will be laughing like, yeah, nigga, he made a million dollars in a year. You may not ever make a million dollars in a year.

Yeah. Some people don't make a million dollars in their life. And some people just don't even accomplish it like that. To do what you have to do to get to college to be a D1 player, then to kill, then to go to the league, that's one thing I think people need to put more respect on. You can show Jersey, like, raised at a college

and get respected by a university. Nigga, you was hooping. No, you cold. You are elite, bro. Yeah, like, even though dude Jersey was upside down, he was cold. Terrence Andrews. He's cold.

Yeah, bro, I wanted the Colts to walk through these doors, bro. There would be respect. No, I'm fixed. I'm fixed. For sure, man. Lamarcus Aldridge, I. There would be respect. No, I'm fixed. For sure, man. LaMarcus Aldridge, I forgot, it might be Chris Haynes

report. He was basically talking about how he wanted to go back to Portland later years in his career and basically it didn't happen for

whatever reason. I want to ask y'all, what's one player or one trade y'all wish didn't happen or what's one player y'all think that could have went back

to that team at some point in their career? I know we kind of talked about with like KD and like the Thunder and stuff like that

reunited. What's the situation? It don't matter what time period it was. Y'all think it would have been dope to see it happen? Well, reverse for me because I'd rather,

I mean, not rather, I would have wanted to see Chris Paul on the Lakers. Okay. I hate that. You know what I mean? That trade didn't go through? God bless the dead.

I wish that would have happened. Yeah, they said we about to sell the stadium. CP with Kobe? Fuck. I really, really wanted to see that. That first trade was crazy too. Yeah. But they would have happened. Yeah, they said we're about to sell the stadium. CP with Kobe. I really, really wanted to see that. That first trade was crazy, too. Yeah.

But they would have kept in that Chris Paul trade? Yeah, they had to veto that. Yeah, I wanted to see that, but that's my... I'll give you some time to think. I'm going to go James Harden. Okay, see, I wish that they could have just figured out that little bit of bread that they was being petty over. Because that would have started a dynasty.

I know James obviously needed his own team, MVP, good enough. But Russ, KD, Arden, bro, prime years going forward, bro, they would have murdered the NBA. Got another one, though, just because, you know, that's the family now. I wish DeMar DeRozan could have won one with Toronto. He needed that for his career. with Toronto. Hmm. No. He needed that for his career. He solidified

a thousand percent, but I feel like all them 50 win seasons, he earned that like Kyle Lowry. They were supposed to celebrate that together. That's real.

So that's my about that one. I probably would've wanted to see I don't know. I don't know. I probably would have wanted to see... I don't know. I don't know. I don't got one. I know the Lakers fans might hate this,

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Damn. I wish him and Vince Carter would have just... They would have been nasty. That's a wrong door. They would have been a wrong door. In their proms, nobody would have been fucking with T-Mac. Man, they have been the best wing since Mike and Scotty. Them two on the same team. Shit, while we're here with the what ifs,

speaking of that, with Orlando's situation, bro, Brent Hill wasn't hurt. Oh, they've been nice. Oh, oh my god Tracy McGrady and Brent Hill that would have been different like I mean I don't know how you feel about Brent Hill events but that would have been close now it's exposed about like Brent Hill was that nigga yeah Brent Hill was that nigga Brent Hill was better than Vince Carter Detroit Grant nasty Green Hill was better than Vince Carter. But it was just something about... Detroit, Grant... Nasty.

I'm going to get some slacks. My family, my camp folks, they're going to get on me about that because they're big DC fans. Shout out to Vince. G. Hill, bro, was... He was nasty. He was that first prep basketball player,

preppy basketball player. I'm like, he a dog. Yeah, he was nasty. For real. He was literally the perfect real. Nah. He was like literally the perfect person. Yes, bro. He still is. If you meet him, he's like, there's nothing

wrong. He can talk well. He dresses well. His wife is a singer. Beautiful. Yeah, bro. He presents everything well. Smart as shit. Come on, bro. He's a great investor. I can't figure NFL. I can't. Come on, bro. The Libby's was laid out. The Libby's was laid out.

I can't figure nothing he do bad. I remember one lady said, Grant Hill, I seen him, he's so faithful to his wife. I'm like, damn, there's nothing wrong. Shout out to that lady. We need more testimonies like that. We need more of y'all on Twitter. They ain't on Twitter.

Well, I'm just saying, like, you can't say anything bad about Graham. He's just, like, a complete good guy. Even when he was being an asshole to Jalen Brown about the USA team, he was still nice. Yeah, like, yeah, we have no problems with Jalen. Like, if he can get better, he just said all the right shit. Nick was trolling like

a motherfucker. He said, if he can get better, I just want pounds every feet. Don't tell me I can get better. You got me fucked up. I ain't gonna lie. We got to put some sweat on G. Hill. He was hating. He was hating. He was like, we ain't gonna do that on this pod. G. Hill, he was hating. We can't wait to have

you on. He's part owner of the Hawks. Most definitely. He's a commentator. He do the USA best. What's that show we used to watch? Inside the NBA bro not Inside the NBA no no Inside stuff

Inside stuff the nigga dances he making up dances with his wife yeah come on bro like it's crazy he lit

Ray Hill game was crazy and he was the one that like even like Isaiah Thomas like all those but they was like he's the next one yeah he couldn't even

shoot either that's what made it crazy damn killer and even after all them injuries he still played like 18 years was like, he's the next one. Yeah, he couldn't even shoot either. That's what made it crazy. Damn. Killer. And even though I called him injured, he still played like 18 years. Yeah, he was at Phoenix hooping.

Yeah. Randomly. He had a long career, bro. Being a good guy. Great guy. That's literally what kept him in the league, bro. He's a great guy, bro. Because hella niggas was getting injured, bro. Yeah, bro.

He's a great guy. They was just like, he definitely lost his foot. He forgave him. Yeah. Now people forgave him. I mean, I should have said that.

Y'all niggas can't be mad at me. I know what you're saying. You know, niggas wasn't even thinking about it. Like, most people have been like, man, he's,

you know, let a nigga get hurt now. It's over, bro. Yeah. You know what I mean? They amnesty you, stretch you, retire early, retire, all that stuff. They let him right you up. Yeah. You know what I mean? The amnesty you stretch, you retire early, you retire, all that stuff. They let him work it out.

Yeah. And he back played. He made some good chicken. And signing contracts, though. Jaheer was signing contracts. Oh, yeah. He got paid. With every ankle brace, knee brace, back brace on. He got paid.

Oh, yeah. He was a poster boy for sure. He was in the league so long. I played against Graham Hill. Damn. Yeah. I played against him. Damn. For real? Yeah, I played against him in Phoenix and the Clippers. God damn.

You sure did. I was in the league four years together. 18 years. 18 years, bro. You know, to get his ankle, to get his foot, and he lost his foot. That's crazy. And it's funny,

because you look at that Fab Five documentary, everybody disrespected everybody, but they didn't really go hard at Grand Hill like that. They got a little, they were really jealous of him. Like, man, he had his dad,

and his dad was an NFL player. That shit was crazy. But he was cold. Like, but he was cold. Growing up, that was rough. Things used to be really shitty that you had both parents at home. That is crazy. I legit can relate to that, bro.

I can't do anything crazy. Outside of my close friends, bro, people in my neighborhood was not fucking with that. I had a two-parent home. You know what's crazy? All my friends growing up, everybody had their mama and daddy. That's a fact. I swear to God. Not mine.

Even when I grew up in Gateway, like, Richard Curry, you know, they lived with their mom and daddy. That's a fact. I swear to God. Not mine. I'm just saying for you. Even when I grew up in Gateway, like, Richard Curry, you know, they live with they mom and dad. Kenan had his step pops and his mom. Mm-hmm.

Like, my nigga Daryl Ellis had his mom and dad. Like, everybody's parents was in the field by the day. You by the day.

Brad. Lou by the day. Everybody had they... It was kind of crazy. When I think about it, it's kind of crazy. Yeah, bro. Jamar. Y'all be... It's kind of wild when I think about it it's kind of crazy yeah bro Jamar

y'all be it's kind of wild it wasn't on 40th street not in Broad River everybody just grew up with their mama and barely them

sometimes some cases for real it was wicked I used to think about that I used to be like damn I used to really

legit my mom and dad made good bread me growing up but I used to legit get called spoiled for having two parents I used to really legit, my mom and dad made good bread with me growing up, bro, but I used to legit get called spoiled for having two parents. I swear to God.

Yeah, I didn't even know. That's crazy. For real, bro. I understand. I didn't even know it was my,

you know, I had some cousins who didn't have their pops in their life. So I knew it and they used to live with us sometimes. So I knew,

like, people don't be having their mom and dad all the time. But outside my crew, when I was with my guys Like I go to my homeboy house

They daddy gloves Nigga Get your ass off the couch Nigga Take your ass off So you smell like outside Like you know what I mean Nah

I I forget it All my niggas Mamas work Thursday Nah Damn That's where That's where you make

The most money bro You know that First shift Shout out to Amazon That third shift is so different Motherfucker, mama work in Tennessee I only knew girls I only knew girls who mama work third shift

Shout out to those queens Boy, they used to be outside Yo, mama ain't never home Bitches at Ripple had apartments God damn, in high school? I'm telling y'all, my people will tell y'all the truth, bro. It's different, bro.

When I turned about 16, all the girls' mamas they never had, were never at home. Damn. I used to be, I'm just telling everybody now, I used to say,

Phil, what's been at your house? Phil, parents, they give a damn. Mr. and Mrs. Kyler, they like, Mrs. Kyler,

Mr. Kyler, they like, where y'all boys going? Man, we about to go skate rink. Boy, it was skate night. That's how you harden. That's wild, bro. That whole Pike Township area

was with you. Sly. I had some times. If you go sly, bro, then sly. I had some times over there, man. Shout out to my dog little too my nephew tore that damn neighborhood up what's that show the wire now them neighborhoods

so random they get a great neighborhood I grew a gateway boy I went over there the other day it ain't nothing but Hispanic stories over there. The crazy part is, once you pass the school, if you turn left, that's where all the black people are.

If you go right near 38th Street, it is little Mexico. Man, what? It ain't nothing over there. I went over there. Boy, I tried to get some gas. Gas station was in Spanish. That's right.

Shout out to the family. That motherfucker didn't even say BP no more. I ain't never seen no gas station was in Spanish. For him. That's right. Shout out to the family. That motherfucker didn't even say BP no more. That motherfucker said something else. I ain't never seen no gas station. I'm like, bro, send me that address and let me have some good candy.

That motherfucker hot shoes. I don't know if them young people are dumb, but they got hot shoes from Japan. Yeah, bro. I thought I said the best galena on the planet. The thought I said it was a little

mescaline on the first. The only drink they had was kombucha. Nah, let me stop. It was crazy. Because you talking about whore chocolate? Nah, it was kombucha.

Now, kombucha's just making a living. I know. I'm just saying, I'm being funny. I really think it's because of TV stomach. I know. I'm just saying, I'm being funny. I really got the TV drinking and shit, so.

Oh, there you go. Oh, Mike. So, these drink the shit out of kombucha. I got one on the bed

right now. Bitch, if you need to poop, just take this one fucking tub. Shout out to the queen. What's funny is I went to Wong yesterday

That's funny I was in my car right And you know What kind of car I was in I was just like Alright cool Let me make sure I get it out You said what

The ghost Impala Yeah the ghost I was in the ghost My shit never installed now Because I realized I need the oil change That bitch had been sitting

I was right there by Gateway I said yeah I'ma just push on Motherfucker Fold you on up I do that Dump you on your biscuit One of them cars

My cousin live on Gateway He's like Cousin you wanna just Park it out here I said nah I'ma just Oh my god bro I appreciate you

I went to go pick up Little homie from the Skate room one time I was in the wrong whip Yeah They was over there I had to get some gas They was aboutie from the scary room one time. I was in the wrong whip. Yeah. They was over there. I had to get some gas.

They was about to press the issue on me. I said, damn. Let me go ahead. I dropped Big DeJuan off a couple years ago. I said, hey, my nigga. Hey, NIL need to kick in. I ain't about to drop you off. For real, real talk.

That would make it funnier. I know a gas station you talk about. You talk about 38th Street. Oh, nigga, I would run out of gas before I go there. And I'm comfortable in this town. I would run out of gas. That's my neighborhood, bro. I couldn't believe it. I was like, damn.

I didn't stop either. I was going to the factory. I tried to take the streets. I was like, I'm going to make it to Speedway, man. I'll make it there. More tunnel vision for sure. A gas station being in Austin is fucking hilarious because low-key in that area, it is the majority.

Yeah, you are the minority for sure over there. Yeah, facts. Freaky Mike, man. We got to discuss it, man. They want to know what's going on with you and these glitzies and out-of-town adventures. This is a chance for you to defend yourself to make sure the story's told correctly, sir. So, first of all,

start in Dallas. Start in D, it's crazy. We're talking about glitzies, but respect. Don't do that. All right, so, we in Dallas. It's a Wagyu fucking hot dog. It's special.

It's hot. Like, if it's an $80 hot dog, I'm going to try the $80 hot dog wow it had like gold flakes on it and shit it was special I dressed up

it was a Magnum I was going to say something but we want him on the show I dressed up the Wagyu steak hot dog it was cool the way you dressed it up bro boy that shit looked crazy bro I dressed up the Wagyu steak hot dog. It was cool. It was cool. The way you dressed it up, bro. Boy, that shit looked crazy, bro.

They told you. I told you you dressed it up crazy because I was outside. Yeah, bro. Here's the crazy part, though. I don't, like, people eat their hot dogs, like, the whole thing. That's crazy. Like, when you eat a banana, you eat the hot dog. That's crazy.

Like, you were supposed to rip the hot dog in pieces. Hey, I'm going to let you share your story, but you fucking lying. What do you mean? Let's go. You took a video of me eating that. Wait, this is the only thing. This is the waggle. It was.

This is the girth. Excuse me? I'm out, bro. Mike was holding that microphone. I got a camera. Look, he was opening

that gliss like this. Y'all are wild, bro. That gliss is crazy. Let's go, bro. And then look, you just break it. Nah,

he didn't break it. He lied. Niggas take the gliss. That's how niggas eat their glitzies. Not at all. Listen. Oh, my soul.

Listen. Oh, my soul, man. Oh, man. We had steak. Me and DJ was eating lobster tails. Shout out to Mark Cuban. You the GOAT. This was before you left.

All kinds of shit. Premium shit, bro. He goes to the hot dog station, bro. It's before you left. All kind of shit. Premium shit, bro. He goes to the hot dog station, bro. It's not a hot dog. It was a Wagyu hot dog. Even your wife was like, Brandon, what the fuck? Oh, no, that's your husband. Go write me.

That'd be it. Oh, man. He doesn't say the hot dog was good. Yo. Yo. Shout out to the Wagyu dogs. Get his ankle burst first. Anyway, most now coming soon. If y' out to the Wagyu dogs. Get his ankle braced first.

Anyway, most now coming soon. If y'all don't eat hot dogs, y'all lying. You know what's crazy? I've seen a lot of people recently at

high school games be, man, they be smacking hot dogs. That's what you eat at ball games. Like you eat hot dogs.

I told y'all that. Nachos and hot dogs. I be watching the nachos for sure. Shout out to my dog, Lou. He 520 family. Like, you eat a hot dog. I told y'all that. Nachos and hot dogs. I be watching the Blackhawks for sure. Shouts out to my dog, Luke. He 5'20 family. He murders two a game. Like, what are y'all eating when you're at the movies?

Wait a minute. Luke murders two hot dogs a game. But you don't have, you can't dress it up for real. No, no. Sometimes, him and Phil, they get chili hot dogs. Damn. If they be going in the locker room. Chili.

I ain't even paying this nigga. They be pulling them out their coats. I'll be rolling. Phillip had dark times at first. He got an excuse. Shit. Child, you know what I mean? School $60 for you.

That was different. They be pulling out their coats. They definitely, I'm not, I don't even know. I will, like after the club type shit, like, well, you can get all the toppings and stuff, bro.

It's a premium dog. I've never liked hot dogs. You want like a Chicago dog? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need a premium. I never like hot dogs. Like a Wagyu hot dog. Not with Wagyu.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, that's his premium. I don't know, but you a glizzy guy. I don't even know Wagyu, for real. No jokes, I'm serious. Like, I know like the beef. You are like a hot dog kind of story. Yeah, bro.

You get them everywhere we go. If I go to the movies, I'm getting a hot dog. Why? If I go to the baseball game, I'm getting a hot dog. Who the fuck goes to the movie and get a hot dog?

The movie concessions are way better than they used to be now. I'm getting a hot dog. People get popcorn at the movies and shit. You can actually get real food too. You can get wings, pizza.

You're getting a hot dog at the movie. Nigga, if you went to the movie and you got a hot dog, I was like, you got a pocket. You can actually get real food too. You can get wings, pizza. You get a hot dog at the movie. Like, nigga, if it was a real shit, you would got a hot dog. I was like, you got a pocket. You don't get some M&Ls.

You're the first nigga to get a glitzy at a hot dog that I know. What the fuck do y'all eat at the movies? Either you bring in the food, popcorn, candy,

the overpriced candy. The food I brought with me in my pocket. You might get a pretzel, some nachos at the most. The pretzel's nasty at the movie theater. Man.

A hot dog is crazy. In the comments, please tell me what y'all get at the concession stand. This is going to be fucking hilarious. I didn't even think a hot dog was on. Damn, that is on the menu, though. You keeping them open, bro. Hey, man, shout out to Breaking News. You know what I'm saying? My boy holding it down at Duke got the job at Miami.

Oh, Jay Lucas got it? Yes, sir. Shout out to Jay, man. I got called John, man. That's hard. That's crazy. My boy is going to be locked in Miami. That's dope.

Get my shit together. Leave these hoes alone. Boy, that was quick. Hey, tap in, man. Yeah. That's dope, man. I'm glad he got his opportunity. It was very interesting.

A lot of people pissed. A lot of people just like, he's passing over all these coaches. College basketball is not the same. It's like, no, it's not the same no more. Because these kids who get recruited by these coaches is who they want to play for. But what they mean, they was passing up on him. I just, you know, there's a little bit of hate.

He's too young. He ain't got no experience, all that shit. And I'm like, do y'all know what he did with that Duke program? Yeah, he just recruited the best recruiting classes. He just got the boozers to him to commit. It's a good chance they might go to Miami now. He sleeps shit basketball, though. Yeah.

And the lineage. Yeah. That's all he does. Yeah. And his brother, his family, his dad. Like, what are you talking about? But if he can get the Boozer Twins to commit to Miami now. Now, that would be crazy.

Because, I mean, he did recruit them. And he got close ties. They are from Miami. Real close ties. Like they are. They are from Miami. That would that would be crazy. Because, I mean, he did recruit them and he got close ties. They are from Miami. Real close ties. Like they are from Miami. That would be a good switch they could get. Man.

And what made me think about that is obviously March Madness is approaching. We think about all those college programs. We talk about historic colleges and the coaches, really. We never talk about

the institutions now. But now it's changing. All these kids are going, like you said, I want to be rocking, rock out at it. Now he in a situation like Miami, he might change the game for real. They might start looking at different coaches differently.

We got to go pull up on Luke. That's a must, y'all. I think we got, I'm going to call him. We got to be there the first day. I got to interview Jack. We have to be there, y'all. Yeah, that's my favorite thing now. I'm a Miami Hurricane.

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They letting him drive. I don't fuck with him. I don't fuck with him. But I do want to shout out to my dog, Ishmith, though. He got put in the Hall of Fame. Honor. Shout out to my dog, Ishmith. Being a Hall of Fame award for us.

That's what's up, man. Congratulations, bro. Congrats, Ishmith. Man, I just talked to Ishmith a couple days ago, man. Tyrese Maxey came out. He was talking about, you know what I'm saying, people you kind of underestimate. He's like, my first game, I'm out there. It was talking about, you know what I'm saying, people you kind of underestimate. He's like, my first game, I'm out there. It was just like, hey, he going to catch me on that cross.

I was like, what? That's me. Why you worry about that? He said, sure enough, first play. And then they showed the ish highlights. It's got some crazy highlights. That full speed crossover, boy, it was unbelievable. I had to take that home with me when I got back from Wake Forest. I'm going to take that full speed cross. Still need to pull up on you in Charlotte, boy. It was unbelievable. I had to take that home with me when I got back from Wake Forest.

I'm going to take that full speed cross. Still need to pull up on you in Charlotte, bro. I ain't forgot about you. Most definitely. He's supposed to pull up on us. I forgot what he said he was going to be here, but he said he was going to pull up to the studio for sure. That's family. Congratulations on being honored. That's fire, man.

That's a hell of an accomplishment that people just overlook, bro. Even from a high school an accomplishment that people just overlook, bro. Even from a high school standpoint, you getting honored at your high school, bro, you was one of the coaches that walked through these doors, man. I'm hyped. I'm hyped for him just because I know his story. You know, being under-recruited out of high school,

getting hurt in sophomore year. I mean, his junior year, he broke his foot. My sophomore year, broke his foot. Had to go through all that Go undrafted Having a great career In the league And then you know Being a guy

I wait for So people love Being honored like that I'm happy for him He a prime example Like fuck the internet Keep working Yeah

For real bro Damn That's real man Hey B.H. People been asking The comments man I know you've talked about it a little bit, but taking a history experience

on a road, man. What would be your ideal situation as far as if you could book one artist, one venue, what would you like to do with your shit? One artist, one venue. If we could go ahead and wish it to fruition. Bo, Travis Porter on April 18th.

Yeah, that's the concert series. Yeah, good. Good clean up. Good clean up.th. Yeah, that's the concert series. Yeah, good. Good cleanup. Good cleanup. Okay. Yeah, he was hating last week. Okay. Vogue. Travis Kemp. Hold on. There you go. Tia Kemp and Travis Kemp, apparently. Hold on, Russ Parr.

The video I would choose would be Dre's And for a Hendrix experience DJ My shit so ghetto now But uh I don't know bro I don't know

Probably 2 Chainz Damn So Dreyas 2 Chainz Hendrix experience Come on we gotta make it happen And to see

If you had a venue If you could put one Like let's say the venue only fit 1200 who you get damn yeah I gotta get artists

whatever 1200 give me a chance to think on that cause obviously everyone gonna be packed out anyway but if you can get a venue to yourself to have artists like that I mean of course I would cheat

and say ho but that ain't realistic that's a hell of a question I ain't bringing no artists I'm going to get Ari I'm going to get who the other joint

Jada Jada you going to get Dez too I'm getting I'm getting all of them sold out oh yeah you're taking Azusa out Who the other joint Jada Huh Jada You gonna get theirs too I'm getting I'm getting all them Sold out Oh yeah you taking the Zeus route It's about to be up

Zeus Zeus me It's gonna be lit in there Cause all the niggas Wanna see them And all the girls Wanna be them And that's some

Which is crazy It's very true Yeah Win the loss ratio Is nice in that too So far Financial standpoint You the only guy I pay them I ain't hating them I don't know But I'm is crazy. It's very true. Win-loss ratio is nice in that too so far. You the only guy I pay them. I ain't hating them.

I don't know, but I used to do parties but I used to have a Jeff Teague weekend. I know what some of them salaries be. You know that flyer. They're a little different now though, bro. They getting a little chicken. I'm not saying they ain't going to get no bag, but it's always a pay scale for a reason. Somebody always need a bag

Ari Ari and Jada just let alone though that's enough to just I don't care what city you in it's an automatic

yeah you gonna win gonna win that's the interesting part now I know you're talking about for some years now but like quote unquote

we're influencers now like we have more people who are more fans of rappers in their family life than they are of the actual rappers themselves. And that shit's crazy. But influencers are bigger than rappers. Like,

I ain't gonna lie. Drewski is bigger than a lot of rappers. Yeah. Drewski's bigger than Kosta Mandela. Yeah, Kosta's not bigger than anybody, bro. Every rapper. Him and Duke and them, that aura is different because they do got a bunch of kids,

100%. But when they walk in like the clubs and shit, it'd be different, bro. Like, no shade of G Herbo. I love G Herbo. You know, that's...

I wish he could do the show, but... Shout out to Herbo. People more interested in his life, his, you know, moms and stuff, more than they are probably his raps.

Oh, yeah. Because he lit. He lit. He lit. If you look at that episode I have with his two past situations, that shit in the middle, very, very quick. Yeah, they lit.

And I'm sure, I ain't shading, but if he drop a mixtape, it's going to take a little second to get to him. I don't know if he's going to get to him as fast as that guy to a meal. We love messy shit. Nobody was really interested about what was happening. They were just like, how could this go wrong? Yeah, like, what they going to say?

Yeah, because G Herbo is definitely still lit, but that moment right there made him iconic in that world. Oh, my mama. Shout out to my dog, Banksy. Legend in two games. I was like, G Herbo, you won. Like, you lit. You the one,man. Yeah. I was like, J-Herbo, you won. Like, you lit.

You the one, bro. Yeah. I fuck with it. Yeah. That's, that's amazing. Or even like when he did,

what's Shorty's name? Was it Diddy? Christian, please. Yeah, yeah. When he did that, it was like lit.

That was fire, for sure. That sit down was definitely fire. Yeah. And the interesting part, I bring that point up because you say, like,

especially on basketball. Oh, I bring her too she don't rap for real uh Carisha yeah most definitely

we went to her party that's when T was at Saucy Satana section man stop nah cause people gonna think that's for real but I'm saying

nah nah I'm just saying it was you see how fast she can clip up on his pocket nah nah nah it was just different

over there yeah yeah yeah I was gonna be eating milk for the real. It was Carisha and friends. Jeff was with the friends. No, I wasn't. See, see.

I'm glad we're here. I was with my wife. This is why we're here. And you know, this nigga that showed love to me numerous occasions. I was with my wife. But this is how

much of a dickhead he was being that night. We lit in our sex. He like, no, I got my own shit. Nigga, you told this story already. He's shitty. I was with my wife. Yes, I was with my wife.

We just happened to be. And me on the one-on-two. He kept walking. All right, nigga, I see what smoke you about to walk into. Nigga, I told you. I was standing over there. I just wanted my wife to ask where to sit. Shout out to the Queens. Whatga, I told you, I was standing over there. I just wanted my wife to ask where to sit.

Shout out to the cool age. And she was going to sit over there. I'm like, nah, I can't do that. No, it just wasn't comfortable. Like, nah, never mind. Y'all fried. Hey man, before we get out of here, I want to ask how y'all felt about this. I seen Gilbert Arrezo

first take, killed that shit. I've seen Melo get some broadcasting opportunities. The way that they're talking about the way the NBA is covered, they kind of hate it. They're trying to get to the point where people are celebrating basketball more than picking it apart. How do y'all feel about that as obviously former players and then us as far as consumers, like the way that basketball is portrayed? Because we love inside the NBA and we get the jokes, but a lot of people hate that shit. I think everybody's just shitting on basketball and it's getting to the point

that players are just like, stop talking to me about this shit because all you're going to do is hate anyway. Yeah, I ain't never really been offended. I just think that was funny. Like, I thought

them not even talking about basketball was funny. Like, when they would just be like laughing at each other, Chuck be falling asleep or some shit. Kenny walking up. Yeah, I thought all that was funny.

I think, to me, I think Kenny gave really good insight on the game. I could tell if Kenny watched the game, Chuck don't give a damn about the game. Yeah. Shaq don't care. He waiting for the Shaq in the food moment. Yeah, he don't care about the game.

But Kenny really gave you good insight. I love Ernie. And I love Autumn, though, for who they are. Like, they both was, Autumn was great athletes. And Shaq is a great entertainer he do what he do but as far as insights of the game i ain't never really look at them for that they never they honestly to me bro they was like a podcast yeah literally talking shit

doing all type of events got random people coming on shooting shots with them just having a good time it was more of a show than like like, looking for real insight for basketball. Like, I watched NBA TV, and I think, like, Sam Mitchell and some of them guys, like, you know, some of the people that was on there would give you real basketball shit. And I used to get that from them. But NBA, TNT, that was just. I always waited for Shaq to join on Shaq.

I mean, on the truck. Or vice versa. That's all I was waiting for you know what I mean Chuck fuck up somebody's name mess up this make Ernie uncomfortable that's all I was there for that was the funny part

that's literally it for real basketball I'm with him you know what I mean you out of your mind it ain't cause they they literally just said man we

fuck these niggas it's sad yeah if they was uncut for real bro if they was on HBO Max oh it would be the best show of all time yeah cause they'd just be, man, we ain't fucking these niggas inside. Yeah. If they was uncut for real, bro, if they was on HBO Max, oh, it would've been the best show of all time. Yeah, because they'd just be like,

oh, he trash. He ain't good. This nigga weak. Like, man, what we watching, man? And they kind of do it anyway. They just do it the PR way. Yeah, but for real, inside on basketball,

I don't do that. But it's cool to see, like, guys who's just really fans of the game. And I think they fans of the game. They probably not fans of the product now because they grew up in a different era. But, like, younger guys who just still really fans of the game. And I think they fans of the game. They probably not fans of the product now because they grew up in a different era.

But like younger guys who just do appreciate the game. Because we grew up in a pickup ball era. Yes, sir. We love going to the gym and just seeing people playing pickups. And like people get into it. We talk about people got bags and stuff. People didn't have bags back. They didn't say that back

then. At all. You know what I mean? Like we ain't say Charles Barkley had a bag. But he was good. He'd post you up. He gonna get to a spot, gonna pull up on you. But we ain't say Chuck had a bag. Now that's a fact. So having these new young guys coming in, talking basketball

the way they talking, like Jamal Crawford was great. Great. Great. He was one of the best, I swear. Like, when I listen to him i'm like damn this is how i look at basketball too and i can listen to him i can relate so it's gonna be cool to see mellow do it who was the three oh guilt was on first take he was going crazy yeah guilt good at it really good job with first take yeah so it's just funny because it's just like they get mad at that but it's like nba this is which i pushed the longest time. Y'all took all the people

who were really good at analyzing basketball away from people who were entertaining and then you got mad at the product. And then you look at the All-Star game

and you have Kevin Hart hosting. And now we got the W here and everybody's mad because Kevin Hart's hosting over Mike Epps. It's like, okay, that's a side B,

but y'all are pushing entertainment over basketball and then get mad. Oh, he doing a WNBA shit? Yeah. Damn, man. They ain't learn from the NBA like but

over Mike in Indianapolis that's crazy wow disrespectful but I get it I get it as far as

putting eyeballs on the game I do I get it for putting eyeballs on the game like Kevin Hart he brings his own audience oh

you know he got his own fan base he brings a big audience for the W. I can see that for the W, but for the NBA, they ain't need that. Y'all think Kevin Hart brings Mike Epps to those events or gets him involved with all of them? Probably. Probably, but I've been out.

Because they ain't beefing heavy no more. No. Nah. They probably smooth. Mike was on the breakfast stuff and said, no, they're cool. They talk. Yeah. And everything.

He said, yeah, I'm feeling no way about it. So hopefully he does, as Mike said. Mike was on the breakfast stuff and said, no, they cool. They talk. Yeah. Everything he say. I don't feel no way about it. So hopefully he does, as Mike said. I'm saying. I mean, even because people in Indianapolis kind of made a little outrage about it. Like a little. By the way. A little, you know, made a little thing about it.

So I'm sure Kevin Hart, maybe he didn't see, maybe he did. But I think probably the cool thing is, well, I got my guy, Mike Gibbs here, too. You know, he's the guy from the city. Well, let Mike do it and bring Kevin. I don't know, man. I don't think that works like it. Nah, Kevin brings too many eyeballs, man. I ain't saying.

Like, Kevin, it's just even look at they tour. This is a Lil Wayne Super Bowl moment for us. Accurate. Real shit, bro. Like, I don't know. Mike Gibbs is definitely not as big as kevin hart i understand that i understand logistics but damn what the city should have kind of done like i'm with jeff though for the w because yeah they need the eyeballs they need that extra yeah

i think they need that push they need a kevin hart at the All-Star game. You know, obviously, how you feel about that conversation is no wrong, but I think the fucked up part about it is the NBA keeps trying to punish people, but y'all are doing more entertainment stuff than everybody else is. Like,

just from a standpoint of All-Star weekend, y'all are pushing entertainment, entertainment, and then you get mad when your analysts and all these networks are trying to cater towards that. And they're talking about

the purity of basketball. Let's talk about basketball again. Y'all fried on those people. If that's the case, y'all would keep journalists. It's just ugly. But I don people. If that's the case, y'all would keep journalists. It's ugly. But I don't... No shade to the journalists.

Cool. But I just don't respect a... I ain't going to say not respect it because you can have a moment of view and it can be good. You can be really good at your job and you can see the game and be great at the game.

You don't have to play the game to understand the game and be a good coach or whatever it is. But the perspective that you want is from somebody who's been there. But Ernie, Shaq, Charles, they've been there, whatever. They all had their job for years, but they didn't grow with the game. So it was just you just need some fresh new people who grew with the game. They didn't grow with the game.

They still stuck in. Oh, man, why they don't throw the ball in? He got this baby on him. Well, people don't post up no more because seven-footers got handles now. You know what I mean? So they just didn't grow with the game. If they would have grew with the game, nobody would care. If they started like, hey, y'all, let's push. Wimby is

different. Kevin Durant's not going to ever post up. Jokic is an untraditional big man. He can do it pretty... And they just started championing that. Nobody would ever say nothing. But they just didn't grow with the game. Kenny did, but the rest of them didn't grow.

They need to have... Just put two entertainers and then two people that really are serious about ball so you have a balance. I feel like. They should have, like... They can have that show. But they should have just started incorporating some younger pieces, like they did

when they started putting Draymond on there. But they like to put controversial people on there that made you, like, I'm going to watch you because they're going to say something. Draymond, I'm going to wild out. But if they would have added a Jamal Crawford to a regular show, like, and let him and Kenny

really talk ball, and Shaq and them chime in, like, no, he's really weak. And they him and Kenny really talk ball. And Shaq and them chime in. Like, no, he really weak. And they be like, nah, Shaq. And they can have a crazy dynamic.

But whatever. For sure. Like you said, Jamal Crawford, Kenneth Sparker, really was a good dish to sell, for sure. Yeah, Kenneth Sparker

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