Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Joe Budden on Kendrick Lamar at Super Bowl, Drake vs. Michael Jackson, Knicks prediction

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 101 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Joe Budden to discuss the biggest topics in music, basketball, and podcasting. Joe talks about his love for the New York Knicks, and how he thinks that Jalen Brunson and the Knicks have a shot at winning an NBA Finals. The guys debate Drake vs. Michael Jackson, whether Kendrick Lamar or Lil Wayne should be performing at the Super Bowl Halftime show, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. The Volume. All right, man, we back. Another wonderful edition of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wills. We got a special, special guest in the building to my left. We're going to introduce my man's last, but to my far left,

we got my dog, Bishop B, here in out the prayer leaves. How you doing, Nasty? Cool, Nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Hey, I got my dog, Bishop B, hanging out at the prayer leaves. How you doing, Nasty? Cool, Nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Hey, I know you fresh off the flight, you know what I'm saying? We let one episode slide through. When we got guest of town, man, you got to be in uniform. Joe, have you ever seen the black forces with the white laces up in New York, man?

No, I have not. Them shit dudes on the floor, right? Yeah. You see the throne right there? That's the workshop. That's the workshop. What's your period? What's your about? About a 12?

No, 11. 11? I got you, bro. 10 and a half in the Air Force, bro. I got you. They're going to think I'm trying to rob somebody. Nah. With the white laces, you come in peace, though.

You know what I'm saying? You might rob the spot. Just how you feel that day. That's funny. You save. You good. You doing that job? Thanks, bitch.

Yeah. Fry to my right, my dog. Young Nacho. Young Teague. How you doing, man? Chilling, bitch. Fry to my right, my dog, Young Nacho, Young Teague. How you doing, man? Chilling, bro. Excited about this episode, bro. Let's have a good time. I'm excited, too. I'm happy to be here.

Absolutely, man. I'm happy to be here. And we got to talk about, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Your DM to the Patreon. I'm going to have to grab it. I don't want no smoke, bro. Royce, I don't want no smoke. bro. Roy said I don't want no smoke.

I just thought it was funny. I want to start off with, how do you really feel about... We're introducing our wonderful guest to my left. You know what I'm saying? If you love music, you know who this man is. And if you got, you know what I'm saying? Little niggas get the new jacket on.

I'm being respect. Respect, K. But listen, man. If you know music, you know this man. And if you have YouTube or anything that plays podcasts, You know, I'm being respect. Respect, King. But listen, man. If there's no music, you know this, man. And if you have YouTube or anything that plays podcasts, you know who this man is, a legend. We got the great Joe Budden in the building.

Podfather, how you doing, man? Peace, peace, peace, peace. Thank you for coming, Joe. Feeling good, man. Hey, I'm happy you came to nap, man. We got to tell you, man, I don't know, they said you straight to Indianapolis stuff. Them niggas are not from Indianapolis.

You are in Indianapolis, Indiana, Naptown. You're in a great place. Any animals would not reside here. We want to tell the world them niggas from up north to one claim our people. Gary, Indiana is Mike Jackson. People, you and that you're in a great place. Well, I've been treated well since I've been here. I ain't been outside too much.

A lot of meth heads. Hold on, Joe. Wait, wait. Where you staying at? Hold on. You're not going to say it on air. No, I'm saying area. Oh, you're downtown? Did you go to that White Castle?

No. Oh, yeah, that's the headquarters. You talking about meth heads? My man tried to go to CVS. He forgot something. He was like, no, don't go over there. Oh, already?

Yeah. Oh, that's true. Now they don't love you. Don't go there. Hotel saves them. Nah, you don't want to go over

there. Don't go there. We'll just Uber East the CVS. The sick niggas don't even get their medicine at CVS.

They just keep pushing. Yeah, I don't spend a lot of time in these red states, so it's always like a culture shock when

I come out. It's always funny because I tell people if you come to indiana there's a couple different places in indiana that's like some nigga shit like here fort wayne 219 the region that's black everything else indiana white you see some black people in indianapolis you drive 30 40 minutes southeast or north you will not the white people out here still, like, they look shocked. Where are they? Oh, shit, one of y'all out here. White people out here. They don't like that shit at all. Hey, you're out here.

No, they on that. Yeah, no, I can see. Don't get out of Uber Black. Whoa, wait a minute. What team you play for? Nigga, I have a job. Bro. We'll be here. You had a question for Joe? Yeah, man, I know you had brought us up on the pod

on your shit we appreciate the love I just wanted to know how you really felt about his take with the Michael Jackson and Drake what kind of shit

this nigga on? I'm just saying we got Joe here Joe was you know what I mean he said Drake sing better than I didn't say

I said they sound they similar he went for it he went for it that day I said they sound they similar he went for it he went for it I said they were similar and what I appreciate is like

and shout out to the pod showing love y'all always show love for us we appreciate that so much we big fans of the show and you was just like wait I thought y'all

was really trying to like go viral off that until his man said that we really wasn't no that was that was him oh yeah when I said like

this ain't for no script type shit I meant that for real. We had no clue that type was coming. First of all, let me explain myself. I ain't lying. He spoke about me when the Drake shit came up before. No, real talk.

You might be Drake-ed out. Yeah. Let's talk about it. You might be Drake-ed out. I'm not a Drake. I'm not a Drake. I'm not a Drake. I'm not a super Drake fan.

I'm not a super Drake fan. Wait, Kyler, please. Go ahead, Woody. Now I'm Woody. Drake fan. I'm not a super Drake fan. Please. Go ahead, Woody. It's down, Woody. He sat down and was like, some people can't talk to Drake. Oh, shit. Why not?

Why not? We're here, Joe, so that's why you're here. No, that's not why why I love y'all it just so happened let's start let's start with the first part I said they about equal

before Mike went white I said when he was black he could sing better than Drake I was like when he got older shit wasn't sounding that good

cool and Dre that nigga was ready to fire on me. Fuck him. He's dumb as fuck. I was like, damn, nigga, I was just, my fuck. But cool, I fucked up. You took the music world by storm with that one.

Yeah, I fucked up. My bad. I watched that shit and was like, yep, they cooking. They cooking. This shit sounds stupid as hell, but it's going to work. The reason it started was because he was high school. this shit sounds stupid as hell but it's gonna work the reason is the other was not turned on

he went idle the reason it started I said they was the two biggest artists that's all I was saying oh man they was the two

biggest artists that's all I was saying he said that piece more walk out of that I'm gonna leave that out long cause I already feel like doing that shit

I don't know what to think if you say like a wild take and then you let it die down like a couple months it come back up the whirlwind starts back up but you did say that shit over. I don't know what to think. If you say like a wild take and then you let it die down like a couple months it come back up the whirlwind starts back up. You did say that shit.

It's him, bro. It's him. I just wanted to know how my nigga felt about it. You feel me? He brought it up. And who was the second part though? What I said.

People can't speak on Drake. Yeah. They can't. Now they can't because they can't. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. See you tomorrow, boy.

Shout out to the trenches. The homies ain't slid through. Tim slid through. But speaking of Drake and Kendrick, Kendrick doing a Super Bowl. Yes. How you feel about that? Uh. Hey, this is a petty podcast if you ain't noticed.

This is why I fuck with y'all. Hey, yo. Yo. Look how you're interrupting the topic. This is your new Super Bowl. How you feeling? Oh, shit. Yeah.

Oh, man. Oh, shit. What up, Joe? I was at the, um, I ain't even have time to really process it, really, because I was at the game. What? No, no, no, no because I was at the game. What? No, no, no, no. I was at the game earlier.

Okay. So while the internet was all doing the internet thing, I was at the game. So I ain't really. It's not shocking. It's not shocking that he doing it. He and Drake, man. It ain't a surprise. Who would you prefer if you was the one giving the, you know what I mean, the order?

Who would you have performing in the audience? who would you have performing in New Orleans? That's a trap. Kendrick. Whoever's in charge of booking the talent at that level, I'm sure they have their reasons for it. We're going to get this thing. Don't worry about it. That's way above my pay grade.

So I'm certain there's a reason that they went with kendrick but yeah man you don't think little wayne should have been a part of it i'm gonna get it back revenge five uh who's to say that he won't be oh that'd be crazy who's to say that he won't be that's gonna be crazy i know when they did that he won't be? That's going to be crazy. It has to happen. I know when they did Essence Fest out there, it was supposed to be the Hot Boy Reunion,

and that didn't pan out. But they got it for Wheezy Fest, I believe. Oh, okay. Yeah, I believe they're doing a set on Wheezy Fest. Great. I think anytime Wayne is performing in New Orleans, it's an event. Yeah.

I don't know if the football people ever cared about people performing in their hometown. I don't think I've ever seen that. That was a good take. Nah, that was a good take. Y'all from here, make a move. And there's going to be more people from out of town than New Orleans who attend that event.

For sure. That's funny. They're not going to mark the ticket prices in a way that the New Orleans people could come and support. Actually, they're going to mark them up so you can't get in. Oh, yeah. We know how that's set up. We just say All-Star here.

That was not priced for people in Indianapolis to be in New Orleans for All-Star. Oh, yeah. All-Star was out here. I tried to tell my girl. That shit wasn't flying. But, man, we are big fans of the pod, man. Well, y'all ain't say how y'all felt about Kendrick doing the Super Bowl

don't try to nigga our opinion don't matter they don't want my music they don't want my music they don't want my music I don't want no music to hear

I'm not mad no but I'm not mad at Kendrick doing it I just feel like for real and like you said people from the city probably don't give a fuck

but I just think like Lil Wayne deserves that eventually in our lifetime we grew up you a little bit eventually in our lifetime we grew up you a little bit older than us but we grew up

on Wayne so it'll be cool for us to see Lil Wayne grace the stage for one time like for the Super Bowl

bro that's all I can't wait to go on my part I'm gonna talk so much shit about this topic I can't give it

to y'all so I'm letting people hear it'd be great to see Wayne in there yeah it's true I know I mean they have, yeah, it'd be great to see Wayne in there. Yeah, that's true. That's B-Side.

I know, I mean, they have some shit that they have on Twitter saying that Wayne, he didn't have 15 minutes to work for him. That's one, I didn't like.

When niggas say that Wayne couldn't do a Super Bowl, I see y'all very fucking disrespectful. He can do all features and it would be crazy if he felt like it.

Yeah, and that's what I was saying. Like, don't go to the music side of it. It's more business behind the Super Bowl stuff that any of us could ever know. For sure. He could do a set for sure.

Yeah. It's not going to get crazy. It's not going to get carried away. For sure. Man, we got to talk about it, man. Obviously, you know what I'm saying? We big fans of the pod. To see y'all progress, you know what I'm saying, to where you at now.

What's one thing you would say to yourself maybe a couple years back that you didn't expect to encounter with this business venture and the way things have changed? Because you're a pioneer when it comes to this particular industry a lot of people don't know some of the stuff that you'll be talking about and i can say a year in we all had firsthand have understood some of your gripes and understandings about situations what's the things you may didn't think you learned but you's like i'm better for it now maybe something i didn't think i would learn podcast break up uh friendships and happy homes i never really paid that one too much mind uh what else again back to the uh

oh and then overt racism and podcast redlining the redlining of podcasts i mean and that topic is coming up a lot now cause you seeing all of the white people get like a hundred, 200 million. Yeah. Kelsey family. Yeah, black podcast is mad. But yeah, I would say that redlining and podcasts

and podcasts breaking up happy homes and friendships. Yeah, it's tough out there. Very interesting. And it's funny you said it because you're a big sportsman obviously so like the way how do you from a consumer standpoint what you do to see the sports podcast now yeah y'all fuck the game up sports niggas came i hate y'all i hate the sports niggas and i'm being fac, of course. I love every single one of the sports podcasts that are rocking, but I just feel like the sports dudes had a cheat

code. Like, the sports dudes would get to sit down and, let me tell you what happened after game five that you don't know about. Like, alright, nigga, I'm glued to this. That's cheating. Hey, man, let me tell you what happened to Tim Duncan after the free throw line. It's like,

you motherfucker. It's like, you motherfucker. It's cheating, but it works. It works. I'm happy for all you niggas. But y'all got similar styles, though, in rap, though. Like, we want to know the behind-the-scenes stories about, like, if you had beef with somebody or this battle, this rap battle, whatever. It's different because in sports,

there is tangible shit to look at. In rap, everybody thinks we Michael Jackson. So everybody is sensitive. Everybody has an overblown sense of self. So you can't really say too much, and then it's clicked up. And then it's clicked up. You say something about one nigga, he tied to the five niggas you might need to speak to.

It is a mess. Versus sports where we watching the game. Let me just tell you something that happened in the game. It's just the game. It's no emotions. That's the fact. Unless you on some fucking Shaq to Rudy Gobert type shit. You're just going crazy with it.

Yeah. He hates him. For sure. He hates him. I want Shaq. Shaq is big Jersey. Shaq is big Jersey. Shaq is big Jersey. I don't,

I like what Rudy said to him the other day. I did. Yo, dog, I know what you're doing. I'm just baffled because I don't feel like you have to do that. Like, and if I never saw Shaq with Dwight Howard,

then maybe I feel different. But Shaq is too, he too the man to be just every chance he gets shitting on when he's down there. Shaq playing off the money though. That's his only gripe with the shit like, why you getting paid 200 million and you ain't putting up half the numbers that I did.

But see that's hate though. That's hate. No, it is, but I'm just saying like, that's all. That's just like even- What it's all it is but I'm just saying that's just like call us about it's the money like him with the Matt Christie shit he obviously wasn't hating again

he was being stupid but just a comparison bro the game grows and evolves what do you want it to do you want everybody to make the same money you made forever like that means

don't sacrifice wit for no reason because nobody gained from it and everybody know the game though shit you get drafted at the right time you get paid at the right time which is how it go yeah bro check just the old head though he just the

old head like but he it's funny because he texted but you don't got to do that though yeah you shack nigga like you're supposed to be embracing still make way more money than rudy gobert nah yeah that's what i don't think he he's not fucked up he He ain't a meth head, as Joe would say. He went to White Castle. But he's still good. He's just like, damn, there's other players that's better than him. He feels like, why the fuck does Rudy get this 225 or whatever he got paid over this player, and he's way better than this nigga?

Why is Rudy Gobert and Jokic on the same pay grade? No, I get it. I understand. But I'm just saying. If you get to $600,000, $700,000 million, you don't feel like those thoughts just got to live in your house. You got to tell your kids. Oh, yeah.

If I was a billionaire like Shaq about to be, bro, I wouldn't give a fuck. I'd be like, good job, Rudy, man. Yeah, but I'm saying Shaq probably just like, I don't know. Why did Shaq go in the booth and diss Damian Lillard again? I don't even remember what that was about. Because, hold on, I got you, Joe, because he said

Damian Lillard basically was like, I'm the best rapper ever from the NBA. Well, now that one, I'm not mad at this one, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Shaq did go platinum, but...

He can't stop the rainbow. They ain't got one. I know a lot of niggas went platinum. A lot of niggas went platinum back in the day, bro. It was different times, though. Yeah.

Still, because they just released it on streaming. And it slaps. And it still slaps. Dane Little can really rap, though. Yes, he can. He don't got a biggie feature, though.

Shaq, man. Well, clearly. He got one. And Dane's last album is hard. It is. It is. That's what I'm saying. Bro can really flow,

but I'm like, Shaq, you kind of cheat code, bro. You're like the most popular motherfucker ever. Bro, he made that song that they made still. Yeah, like. Shaq you kind of cheat code bro you like the most popular motherfucker ever bro he made that song he didn't make steel yeah like Shaq rap with the

Fuchsnikens I know that don't mean nothing now but back in 92 93 that was a big fucking deal like to be able to keep up with those dudes

so yeah I think Shaq just rap cause he could like man I always wanted to rap

fuck it I'm gonna go get Biggie. Bro, he rich. He did everything. That nigga was a cop. Yeah, but I'm saying Dame Lillard really, I feel like, got a passion for not dissing Shaq, but I think Dame Lillard understands the craft. Shaq rap better than Kobe? Yeah.

Yeah. You messy, but you super messy as fuck. People forget that Kobe was rapping. I hope they never. Kobe, Kobe, Ron Artest.

Now, Ron Artest had to slap on 2K. Steve Francis, like delete. Ron Artest, it didn't matter because wasn't nobody going to say nothing

to him anyway. He did our part. We was in here like. He said pause. We thought he was about to break this door. Nah, I see.

Cause I treat y'all like humans, bro. Like Ron, you out of pocket. He said he went up in break this door. Nah, see, because I treat y'all like humans, bro. Like, Ron, you out of pocket. He said he went up in the nigga ass. I'm like, Ron, we get you a bit of sleeves off a motherfucker, but we nothing. Chill out, bro. You're doing too much. Your gun tucked. Oh, the gun is near.

Nah, middle of a piece was here. Nah, he did our part. Middle of a piece was here. That wasn't Ron. We told him, I said, bro, I don't know if we can help you with this situation. These two niggas, let me tell you how. Yeah, he praying to hell. My niggas don't really fuck with me.

I say, Paul, these niggas silent. Usually they laughing. These niggas just say, oh, what? I don't like it. We're at about 265. I'm 205 my best dancing shit I can't get to my car

park a lot a little bit away and you're toning down can't get to my car the other one that's funny shout out to Metta World Peace

all the last names I forgot them but respect Joe we know you a Knicks fan man what y'all gonna do I see y'all had a nice little off season Danny Dimes I know you a Knicks fan, man. What y'all gonna do? I see y'all had a nice little offseason.

Danny Dimes, I know you don't want to talk about them, but I know you at least feel happy about your Knicks. Danny fucking... Danny Dimes, come on. You going viral for that draft pick is one of the funniest things of all time. That was nuts. That was kind of nuts. That clip still goes.

Like, every year I see it when somebody do something stupid. And rest in peace to dude, because that's really what I was – Haskins? Oh, yeah. Yeah, rest in peace to Haskins. That's really why I was jumping up and down. Haskins is right there. But, you know. The Knicks, though.

We rocking. This is the first year I bought season tickets. Okay. Okay. First year I did it. Enough is enough, though. We rocking. This is the first year I bought season tickets. Okay. Okay. First year I did it. Enough is enough now. I'm convinced. You locked in?

I'm riding. I like it. I don't even think I've been alive to see us after the lockout final. I ain't even see us try to compete. We've never put a team on the floor to be like, alright, we doing it now. That's never happened since. Oh, the Mellow team though.

Stop it. They won 50-something games. Stop it. I know they did and we was one Roy Hibbert block away from maybe going to the Eastern Conference final, but that was never going to work. Actually, and which mellow team you talking about?

Which one? I'm talking about when Mike Wilson was the coach. Mike Wilson, when they had the bets, when they had Jason Kidd and Shee Wallace, Steve Novak and all of them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That team I thought could do something. No, that was a good team, bro.

That team I thought could do something. Yeah, that was first team, all retirement homes. But look what they did. Yeah. You stopped believing a long time ago. Huh? You stopped believing a long time ago. Huh? You stopped believing a long time ago in the Knicks. God damn, Joe.

No, I'm a real Knicks fan. So I've been there. Listen, I remember jumping up and down for the Derek Harper trade. Like, I've just been there long enough. So I ain't about to get a lot of hard work. He said Derek Harper. And Dolan was never trying to... Listen, New York could lose, lose, lose

and be sold out. Yeah. Jerry Jones. Yeah, exactly. So this year, I'm excited to see what's going on. I hope they pay Julius Randle. You think they need to keep you?

Yes. My niggas, Joe! Yeah. You think they don't? I don't think they need to keep him. Why? Yes! I just think y'all can get some type of value back from him

because y'all play so much better. Y'all going to play so much freer without him. He's a ball stopper. Ball stopper. Yeah. He do need it. And y'all don't want Jalen Brunson to revert back to, like, chilling and watching somebody play.

Y'all need him to kill. Mm-hmm. You saw what happened with Jalen Brunson without Julius, though. You need somebody else. You're about to tell me that's Bridges, but you need somebody else that's going to put the ball

on the floor and get you a bucket. Yeah, but you see... And what value you're going to get back for him? That's a good question. That's a good question. Two-time All-NBA player.

If you don't got a lot of value on the market, that should tell you something. No. No, that's cap. What? That's cap. If you put your house

on the market right now and it's a really nice house, you're going to put it on there for a certain amount. Somebody's going to come. What? It's cap. If you put your house on the market right now and it's a really nice house, you're going to put it on there for a certain amount. Somebody's going to come look at it and afford it. You go out there and you put a nice house on the market right now that's worth $5 million, somebody come offer you $1.5 million? What's that saying? That house really ain't that bad.

You're trying to say he's not a nice house? You're not saying that. I'm not saying he's not a good player. He took $3.5 million off the house. I'm not saying he's not a good player he took 3.5 million off the house I'm not saying he ain't a good player but what he do a lot of people don't value he's a

he bro right he's a good yeah but the way he get it like the way he get his it's a rough way to get 23 when people get 23 a lot you to get 23rd. Yeah. When people get 23 a lot.

Because you're getting your 23 and 10, and you in the way. And you stopping the team from falling. You see how much Jalen Brunson flourished from soon as he was gone? Yeah. All of a sudden, he became a star. He the face of New York down there. See, I think that Brunson was going to flourish with him there. I think together they played well. I wasunson was going to flourish with him there. I think together they played well.

I was real mad when Julius went down with that shot. I like Julius. We both like you. The real JR. He's the real JR. Y'all got to stop saying that.

JR Smith's the real JR. But respect. No. But I just don't think, I think the ball and JB hand all the time like it was. Yeah.

That's what made the Knicks good. Even if y'all are right, which I don't think y'all are. Julius is my man. Salute. Love you, nigga. But it wouldn't be this season. Even if y'all are right, it wouldn't be this season. You gotta see

what that look like. You gotta give it a chance. But I'm just saying. Trade that line though. So who you play then? Y'all seen Devin Chance come alive, right? Bench. Hell no, Joe. He got to get benched. What are y'all talking about?

This nigga is Michael Jordan on the Hornets. And he's coming off the bench. No. So who you starting in? Please. JB1. JB. You starting Josh Hart?

Josh Hart has to come off the bench. Josh Hart coming off the bench too? He got to, bro. What team do y'all have? I don't know what y'all niggas is even talking about right now. So who you starting? Starting your team. Bridges is starting at two.

No. Oh, Mikael Bridges at the two? At the two. Starting at the two. Who at the three? Hell no. Josh Hart? OG?

You still got OG at the three? Julius at the four? OG, Jules, Mitch. That is the starting five. Hey, my patience. We good money. Don't even trip Hey, my patients, we good money. Don't even trip. We good back.

We good money. No, y'all are not. Y'all got a lot of cold road players, but when they get spooky. The patients are playing. You got to be joking. I like those. Tyrese, we good money. Don't even trip on me.

He do stand up. Yeah, he do stand up. He joking. I like OG at the four, bro. Like, at the three. He can play the three, bro. I like that. He can. And I like Michael Bridges. But you have to start Devin Chin the four, bro. Like, at the three. He can play the three, bro. I like that. He can.

And I like Michael Bridges. But you have to start Devin Chin too, bro. Yeah, he's the best shooter. Bring your best shooting ass off the bench. Shut up, Dante. He's my guy. White Dante. I love him.

I love him. Because where is Josh Hart at, though? On the bench. Back up. On the bench. Back up. On the bench. Back up. Josh Hart is a heart and soul, bro. That's a fact, bro.

He's playing 48 minutes a game. Yeah. For real. They trying to take the tread off you, Tom. They trying. Yeah. They not paying you. And I always laugh when y'all show up.

When y'all be talking, you know what I'm saying? You have some of your calls. They going on vacation. Y'all be talking about it on air. Hey, Tom Tiffin ain't going for none of that shit. Nah. Niggas, you will get all your money's worth. Everybody's playing.

Sure. One thing about playing for Tibbs, you're going to get paid because you're going to play enough. You're going to get some numbers. Shit. Ain't no PTO. Mm-mm.

Listen, that last playoff game against the fucking Pacers, I looked at the bench and there was two niggas over there. There wasn't nobody even left. Y'all done drained niggas. The guard knew. We stood up.

Hey! Start clapping. You gave it knew it. We stood up. Hey! Started clapping. You gave it a run. I hate that. Niggas close out on your home team. Yes, sir. You got to stand up and do the pride thing. Hey!

New York pride! Now I'm tight. Fucking Pacers. Shout out to the Pacers. Oh, no. I don't do that now. The Pacers wasn't shit. I'm alive.

My Hawks is on their way back. Where? Big three. Oh, you're still gassing that? That Hawk stuff? Trey Young on his way back. Don't worry about it. He's trying to get the job.

Trey Young trying to get the fucking, he's trying to get out of there. Probably, but he there right now. He stopped. He got to do what he got to do. What's that draft pick? Y'all got the number one draft pick? I forgot his name. Nobody know.

Yeah. He got a rough name to say. Tower of the Z. He shut up. Him and Alex R might go down as one of the worst one-two pick combos Of all time Nah, fuck no I'm with you

I'm with you That one was bad That one was bad Was that Oladipo? Nah, Oladipo didn't go too Yeah, he did It might have been Oladipo Oladipo? No, Oladipo didn't go, too. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. It might have been Oladipo. In that draft?

Yeah, Oladipo went, too. In that draft? I don't know if it's that draft. I think Anthony Bennett. Yeah. No, wait, wait, wait. No, no, that's wrong. No, who went?

No, no, no, Anthony Bennett's draft. I'm sorry. I don't think Oladipo was in. I don't think it was in there, either. Yeah, I think it was Oladipo. I could I don't think Oladipo was in either. Yeah, I think it was Oladipo. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that was that draft. Oladipo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good call, DJ. I swear I didn't think. I thought, bro, it was the year before that. Oladipo, I need more R&B music from you. Let's go. Yeah, he is retired. He the greatest R&B NBA player. I think he's taking a step back from basketball.

I think he's taking a step back. Bro he's taking a setback from basketball I think he's taking a setback I mean bro cleared 100 and he went through a lot like you know to go with them type of especially leg injury

but I can understand that's a tough injury bro tough bro Tuscaloosa brother right that's my man I fuck with him though he was caught I ain't got no problem

being there NBA niggas won't come yeah I'm repeating it NBA niggas wanna come yeah I'm watching all you niggas I'm watching every last NBA nigga wanna come

Eskimo bro up with one of the rappers nah nah hit your ass back on the road you gotta know the NBA players that you Eskimo

brothers with sorry it's important twin hey man what's wrong with this Gerald Smith asking my brothers with. Sorry, it's important. It's important. Twin. Hey, man, what's wrong with this? It's J.R. Smith on the Knicks causing a ruckus. He got the nerve to talk about the real J.R.

Now you got J.R. Smith fucked up. Buckets on and off the court. Oh, my God. Niggas get traded to the Knicks. It'd be tough. He was supposed to be a Knick? Yeah I was rooting for that I don't know what

You it was you Yeah I said no Why? Cause it cost a living When I should have came that second time I should have went I went to Boston I'm talking about the second time

Yeah I went to Boston Yeah not the second time. Yeah, I went to Boston. I should have came. First time. Yeah, Tibbs called me. Yeah, not the first time. No, the first time I was like, fuck no. Mellow. It's a cost of living. I like to live like this.

Nah. But then when Tibbs called me, I should have went. I fucked that up. We just talked about the cost of living in New York. That shit wicked. Yeah, I don't know how y'all do that shit. I was just in a... What do you mean?

He just came from new york yeah 700 square foot for like 3k well i could tell you how it's done it's called new jersey fucking dirty ass new york all them rats they just found uh i mean where's the like what's closest to new york, though, in Jersey? What city? It's a bunch in New Jersey that's close to the city. Shit. So that's where you raise your families in Jersey?

Yes. That's where you go to do anything wholesome. We don't pump gas over there. Yeah, we just talked about that. Damn. Y'all do got the attendance. Yeah. Yeah, we just talked about. Damn. We just talked about. Y'all do got the attendance. Yeah. Yeah, come on. Now, the only thing I was hating on,

because I went to the Colts game to fuck with Z, when you could walk to the football stadium, it is a vibe. And we don't have that in Jersey because that shit is in the middle of fucking the East Rutherford.

Ain't nobody walking. You just got to drive up. But that's a vibe when everybody throw their jersey on. Yeah. The comfort. Hey, white people take tailgating seriously here.

Nah, they don't play. But it's crazy here. You could walk from Gainesville where the Pacers play to, you know what I'm saying, Lucas Oil with no problem. I saw.

Yeah. And the white people out here, they be outside. Laws here don't matter to white people. They be outside. And I was outside. I wake up early.

So I went downstairs at like 6 a.m. to smoke. I seen niggas headed to the stadium. They get it cracking real. They're crazy out here. Which is so crazy. Because it's such a basketball state, but they don't play about them coats. And that's why I told Z is that, bro, they love you.

One time, they love you forever here. Adrian James ain't left Indianapolis. Nah, he always here. You a Giants fan? Yes, unfortunately. Damn, that's unfortunate. You a giant, Sam? Yes, unfortunately. Damn, that's unfortunate. You had a rough day today. I wouldn't know.

I ain't going to know all season. You blacked out knocking today? I'm a giant. I protect my peace. Today was a rough day, boy. But when I seen Dak get paid this morning,

I said, hey, man, I pray Dak have a good season. I pray. They cashed him out? Oh, he got cashed out biggish. You know what I'm saying, Check? I told you that was bad. 60 M's.

One thing about Jerry and them Cowboys, all you got to do is apply pressure, and it worked. Oh, yeah. Except for homeboy, that running back. What was that, DeMarcus? DeMarco Murray. Oh, man. He don't want Jerry.

He said, get the fuck out of here. No, he said, you're a running back? We won't find another you tomorrow. Then Zeke ran the same play and it worked. Nah, it worked, but then when Zeke got on that bullshit. Gotta go. Nigga, I said that nigga to the G League in New Orleans. We ain't seen no more of them little belly jerseys.

He back now, though. He got a different number. Nigga, we got a BBL in New England, came back down. That nigga looking straight, got a different number. It's a different nigga. I'm like happy. All the time, Zeke is back, baby. Oh, here you go. He back.. That nigga looking straight. Got a different number. It's a different nigga. I'm like Tom Zika's back, baby. Oh, here you go. He back.

Dog's handing no parades. If he had a parade, cut him immediately. Which one? Any of them. Not the one in June and not the one in February. They got two months. Oh, it's wicked out here. Listen, I was out fucking with him. Listen.

DJ, put me on. I didn't put you on. No, I didn't put you on. They got a parade in fucking February. That's black history, man. I was just kidding. Oh, I'm just saying. We probably had the first one, though, don't us.

I'm not laughing at him, bro. I'm laughing at him, bro. He's stupid, bro. We probably had the first one. The Juneteenth Parade is crazy. I'm going to go ahead and give it to Frederick Douglass. Dr. Umar going to kill you. Dr. Umar going to kill you.

We're going to go ahead and give it to Frederick Douglass. Dr. Umar calling you right now. You're falling about to read. Hey, honestly, I'm happy you're here because maybe you can help this happen. We just need a five episode, no more than five. It's just Dr. Umar and Tyrese doing a podcast together. That's it. Just five episodes, though.

No more than that. We need them together. The world deserves it. That Dr. Umar shit with this nigga is crazy. Dr. Umar top five podcast. How did you get him, bro? I agree. He's the only person I ever paid to do a podcast.

I paid him. I hit him. We paid one person, too. He's the only person. I ain't paying none of these niggas, but he sent that number. I was like, nigga, take that. You sent me? Oh, man, boy, was it worth it. Legendary, bro.

Talking about ROI. Hey, I almost sent that nigga a tip afterwards. Afterward, I'm like, yo, you so ill, nigga. Now I'm blowing it up. He gonna come back at a different number. He about to double. Yeah, Uma, I always wanted to talk to him. And I reached out, and he gave me a number,

and I dubbed it, because get the fuck out of here. And then I circled back, like, a few months later, the number had changed. The number had changed. That's good. That's good. I finished. You was the last piece.

I'm not sure if it's finished yet. Did it get finished? No, it's still a little worse. They just broke ground. Oh, see? Where did you see the finish line? All right. YouTube.

I'm getting in trouble with everybody. I'm fucking with you. Hey, his videos at the park used to be legendary. His kids play. He's like, fuck these white people. Lock in. Bro, you can't do that. Go home and do these videos.

Black Queen, Trevor. Nobody, Trevor. When he was talking about that picture of the Knicks, man, that shit was fucking funny, bro. Oh, my God. Hey, but I swear he's top five podcaster of all time, bro. I agree. He's crazy. That's a good investment, Joe.

No, he's fine. Yeah, you to go for that, for sure. Y'all are fucking nuts, Joe. No, that's him, man. But every time I watch your clips, I'm like, nah, these niggas have a lot of fun. Y'all really some of the only ones having fun. And these podcasters look stressed. I'm a mama.

They out there looking broke. They looking like they don't lather. Yeah, they just not having a good time.

Oh, man. Oh. Nah, Umar, when I say you had Umar, I say you had Joe in his bag.

He had to get him, bro. Nah, yeah. I ask now, because we big fans of the show, who is one person that was supposed to do the show and is never, like, formulating or still waiting on to pull up? Shit, that don't exist. There ain't none of that. I don't play.

Oh, okay. None of these niggas are invited to my show. I don't mean for you. None of y'all have. That's crazy. I wish one of these niggas are invited to my show. I don't mean for you. None of y'all have. That's crazy. I wish one of these niggas would. You're nuts. No, that doesn't happen.

That doesn't happen. If you see somebody on the show outside of Umar, who I paid, but I fuck with him now. Outside of him, everybody you see on that show, I have some type of relationship equity with, and that's how they got there. For sure.

Or somebody I wanted to meet. Like, so I'll take you while you're on your press run. But other than that, I normally don't take nobody on a press run normally. I don't take nobody I don't know or somebody in the room don't know. I try my best to not speak to the people. It's way more fun talking

about these niggas. And then when you meet them, they think that you can't talk about them no more. No, no, no. And they're going to call Joe Button fake and phone him. I was just there. So what? So what? The gig is the gig.

The gig is the gig. The gig is the gig. So no, that didn't happen. There's nobody that I'm still waiting on them. And the invite got lost. Actually, there's one person, but I can't say up here. There's a woman. There's a woman. Respect.

She'll be there. She'll be there. She's a friend. She'll be there. For sure. And it's funny, because I love podcasts. And you know what I'm saying? It's like growing up and the the evolution of it seeing how it started

like Combat Jack was like my first introduction to podcast. So I started in that realm and then what was dope to see like your formula how it worked for you was like nah,

I'm just up here with my people. Everybody else who were like relies heavily upon guests you see them like scramble for stuff. So it's dope to see alright, I know y'all

gonna make this content no matter what. And like you said, you see a lot of people stressed out because it's like damn, I done did 100 interviews who's next? But niggas can't do episodes by themselves the interviewers it's nobody left to interview we interviewing the interviewers there's nobody it's over we've heard from everybody already it's done it's a wrap

then these niggas come in here they all got they all think they important they come Then these niggas come in here, they all think they important. They come in a hundred niggas. I'm like, dog, get out my shit. My shit smell good in here. I got room spray, nigga. I got fucking Aroma 360 in here. Got all these musty ass niggas in here. You out of pockets, yo.

I want to ask you though, since you here, nigga. Why you open a hindi bottle? And I do have a question for y'all at some point because y'all brought up umar yeah i need to know who was snow bunny lover in here or not oh oh and i know y'all aren't black queens forever i know y'all i know snow bunnies never okay that's bitch shout out to the neanderthals uh my wife latina how did you... In the middle. Can you? My mama would say that. That boy Lenny is a little different.

He is. Definitely. We got company, bro. Triple double team over there. You ever hear about... You know, you watch basketball. You know when niggas all around. They got all around game. Then you got your nigga straight shooter.

Got it. This nigga, no, this nigga. Three level score. This nigga can do everything. This boy over there can do everything. They got it. They got it. Big team.

Shouts indictment. Big team. The Hawks didn't even get to see the fourth round. We're Arsenal crazy. I was going to say, Washington Heights team. Oh, shit. Real summer league. Nah, I want to ask, how the hell did you land on love and hip hop?

I want to go back a little bit. The first one. I miss. That shit was a... How did Mondo come find Joe? Disgusting. Why did I do that? I forgot he did that.

Yeah, I'm tapped in. Fuck. I said, oh, Joe. Joe's a real human. I ain't sit your ass like that why am I here I said hey

I fell for the setup I fell for the setup so how did you no I'm not on that but I'm just saying listen when I tapped in I just want to go back

to the beginning but I said my boy is a legend. It was a mess. I shouldn't have done it. I was mollied up. I was on every pill in the world. Thank God fentanyl didn't exist back then. Yeah.

But no, I just did. At the time, I thought that you would leverage the visibility and maybe that would do something for your career. That's all a crock of shit. Yeah. Well, it wasn't me anyway. The first time. The first time.

But I went back and cleaned it up. Yeah. I went back and cleaned it up. Yeah, I went back. We got the money right. Got the story right. Yeah. Got some editing.

You know what I mean? I'm in here. I'm in the meeting. Come on, what we doing? Let's get it right. Right. I had to go back and present myself the way I was supposed to be presenting.

So I'm glad that that happened. first time though and oh i'm fucking with you niggas and then they i'm sorry john on netflix now so for the people that missed it i need to see first season stevie j i don don't know, but my whole shit is on Netflix. I'm on the cover looking dumb as hell. Oh, I can't wait to see you. Oh, you're on the Netflix cover? Yeah. I can't wait to see that one.

That's the real, you was the real ISO Joe. He was the real ISO Joe. I can't wait to see this shit. He is a legend. P, we got something to watch. Plaid pink shirt on the cover. Nasty. Oh, you remember those shirts?

Disgusting. Oh, no. Y'all twins. That's my first night out in Atlanta. Killing, right? Man, I thought that was the shit. I thought we was killing in a plaid shirt. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Hey, that's funny, because we talk that was a shit. This is what we was killing in the back. Oh, man. Oh, man. That's funny because we talk about shoes and shit. I remember you had a crazy foam posi run, too. Nah, I used to be on foam posis.

Heavy. I used to do custom foams. Why did I do that? No, why did you do the jersey? I see niggas today in foams. I'm like...

Y'all see that jersey? The foot skit ball. Did Joe rock the two headbands too? Like Ron Artest? The D headband pause. That was me. He had me try to do that weak ass shit at parties. The double headband shit.

Try it. I can't do this. Hey, I seen a picture of this nigga and Ron Artest. I said, yeah, Joe on this shit. I know. I got a motherfucking message from Mello talking about me. All right, yeah, Joe on that shit. I know. I got a motherfucking message from Mello talking about me.

All right, come to the pod. I'm like, all right, I love Mello. I can sit down. Here you go. Yo,

so the headband. I'm like, are you inviting me here to ask me about this headband? Oh, I think I'll pitch it. Hey, man.

I want to know. That's the same thing Mello did. They pulled me right up on the side looking stupid like that. I want to know that company. We need thing Melo did. They pulled me right up on the side. Look at stupid like that. I want to know that company. We need to talk to their marketing director because that was one of the wildest marketing

schemes I've ever seen. You and Ron Artest alone. That's not true. And that's my beef. Man, niggas want that bullshit. Mine is the only one that's still going to test the tide. You and Trish said it. That's a mess

it's because of the Joe Budden fist fight that's they fault 100% nah nigga I gotta say one thing that shit funny as fuck though but academics had us

he said something about us on our pod on his pod you should have heard what he said about these two niggas wait what happened what did he say

oh yeah so they said so I can't remember what y'all said. So Joe Button and Danny Green had a little issue. Me and Danny Green? No, Joe. I mean, not. Sorry.

Not Joe. Academics had a. Oh, yeah. Danny Green tried to fuck his girl or something like that. Yeah. And we was like, bro, you shouldn't have. You know what I mean? You out of pocket, basically.

And he went in on these two. Funny as shit in my life, man. I don't even remember what he said but he thought he thought that shit was so funny the group was crying that's why i love agdo because anybody say anything about him he fired off for the next week no he go crazy yeah i'm fucked with it that was funny hey the fact that we get our drake updates from him is hilarious to me. And I actually love it. I love that we got Drake updates from him. I love it. Yo.

Yo. I mean, I fuck with Drake too, but not like that. Oh shit. not like that. Oh, shit. Not like that. Oh, this dude. Joe good at this.

I can't see. He just looks. I didn't look. I didn't look. I don't like the Drake updates from that. That's all. I just don't like it. I don't like it.

Oh, man. This is funny. Oh, man. This is crazy, man. Holy shit, man. I love how we got here, man. For this to happen the way it did is absolutely perfect, man. For you to be at the game supporting the Trenches, man,

them going crazy. We gotta show this love on the show, man. The Trenches going crazy. Z, Tim, Jada, my boy EJ. I love to see their progression, man. They going crazy. Their time is up, man. I'm so proud of them. I'm proud of them. First of all, I fuck with all of them. And secondly,

I tell every podcaster as they start, you got to just want to do it. Like, you got to have a will to want to do it. There's going to be 10 billion reasons why you'll want to stop doing it. And days where you wake up and the only thing that keeps you there is your will to do it. And them boys have it. They have it.

They did it. They showcase it time and time again. I've seen them straight from the game, catch a flight. I've seen them just get it done. And I'm super happy for them. I can't wait to go over there and fuck with them tomorrow. They the only niggas that could have got me out here. Talking about some of my Colts game.

Nigga, I don't give a fuck. They better than the Giants. Oh, no, for sure. Everybody better than the Giants. Yeah, facts. And then they're going to put them on hard knocks, so I got to be in my living room watching. I'm a 49ers fan, so allegedly.

All the way. My bad. I mean, I fuck with Z, though. I fuck with Z, so I fuck with the Colts now. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the Colts. You a Colts fan now? Oh, yeah, I bleed blue.

You see, I got my shit on. Oh, you fuck with shit. Nigga, that's Jeff Gordon. Yeah, that's the jacket. That's the jacket. Because I fuck with the Colts. Jeff was at the game. Now, he was definitely at the February parade.

Oh, my God. I'm out. So, bro, shout out to Jeff Gordon. That was a good game, though. Shout out to the Colts. I want to ask you, though, how you feel about

the space that rap is in right now? Hip-hop. Oh, I wouldn't know. I'm just an R&B. You ain't tapping in? I'm R&B'd out. I don't know what none of the rap niggas is doing. What space is in?

Y'all tell me. I like it. What do you like about it? They don't really like it. I don't like how it's evolving, for real. It ain't really no... I don't know. I just feel it's more Like, it ain't really no... I don't know. I just feel it's more versatile rappers now.

It's not really stuck on. Y'all used to look at, you know, lyrics. You used to go in on motherfuckers who really couldn't rap for real. Thanks. Yeah, he was one of them type niggas. But I like how, you know, the space is evolving. Like, the melodic shit, I like that shit. I like keeping an eye out for

the business um and watching how music is consumed and what's happening with the labels what's happening at the streaming services i guess that's what i'm trying to say today i don't really care what the rappers are doing musically i care care about how I'm living and the business. Like I think a lot of I think there are I think we're in the middle of a shift. Not just in rap but

in podcasting, in fucking the car dealerships. I think mad different places with this election shit going on is going to see a shit. Stock, all of them. So rap is just one of them.

And they got some things to figure out. Shit is fucked up. There's hundreds of layoffs. Labels disintegrating right before our very eyes. And maybe 2% of niggas, Travis Scott just sold 500,000 and then he sold 20 000 like allegedly he never sold no fucking 500 000 man i don't know why they keep trying to fool people

with this nonsense yeah it's just a bunch of smoking mirrors now so it's tough it's tough and then it's then i think it's probably a shame we in we're about to be in 2025 i think it's a shame that there is no rapper that just has a grip on what's going on for the next five years. Remember when Lil Baby was on his run, and it was like, oh, he's about to take over for the next 10 years. It was like, eh.

It got quiet. Yeah, it gets quiet kind of fast. It gets quiet fast for rappers today, and I think that's a shame. Life expectancy for rappers is a year and a half career expectancy. That's crazy. You're on average but I think Rod Wave got a long time

in this shit. You're named one nigga. You said nobody. Hey that's a Rod Wave disciple right there. On the average I give you that and if NBA Youngboy went on all that shit he'll still be popping to this day. Well that's the thing. Niggas is on a whole bunch of shit,

so that counts. Oh, that counts. That counts. If you got a gift and it's being hindered because of some other shit, then we got to call a spade a spade. Ah, yeah. But I was there for that one, too.

Youngboy's about to take over. Okay. Let's watch him. Where is the class that's running away with it so we're 2030 we know what we're rocking with i mean i don't know if he's gonna be rocking from 2030 but future gotta he got a good hold on the game he don't really miss like we have a goat debate like our goat like yeah my goat is future for sure his goat is future like he think but when i think about i'm like, right now,

he probably, like, the best out. Like, we used to do a versus with somebody. I feel like not too many people can compete with Future. Like, he just really don't miss to me. I agree, but Future for me is like a legacy act now. Yeah. So, I don't really look at him as. He ain't taking money from nobody else.

His money going to be for him. His is his. He got it already set in stone in 2030 I don't even know a future I feel like doing doing none of this shit that nigga be 50 that don't stop nothing now 50 don't change nothing LL just dropped

oh cool J which other LL do you know? They just call me long leg. You gotta stop watching the movies, bro. I told you about that. Nah, they just call me long leg. You're still in great shape.

Get on your ass. Y'all think I'm trying to diss him. Nah, we just want to make sure it's you. Well, no, you dissed him. I didn't know you dissed him. Oh, Cool J. Yeah, finish his name, nigga. I know you from New York, nigga.

You call him LL. You probably call him L-Swerve, whatever y'all call it, nigga. L-Swerve is crazy. L-Swerve. I didn't think there was another LL that people knew. Hey, I'm just saying, shout out to LL Cool J. No disrespect. No disrespect, but I'm just

saying, like, I don't think y'all know any songs from that album that he just dropped. Oh, that's not true. Well, I mean, Joe, you from that era. I'm talking about these two niggas. Oh, no, they probably won't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about these two niggas. You really

tagged a cool song on there. Mama's gonna knock you out too. She got a part two? Grandma? Okay, go ahead,

keep it up. That's what I'm talking about. You know what? That's like the Coastal American. Don't do your little edit sign. Don't tell him nothing.

Mike, just go ahead. Yeah't tell him nothing. Mike. Let's go ahead. Yeah, there we go. Mike, keep it. You know what I mean? Sean's a swerve. Yeah, let me start because I'm going to feel

that little Cujo. I just watched Any Given Sunday on one of those smokes. I love that little Cujo. That's the way he got on with Jamie ass. I'm cool.

He hit Jamie with it. Nas on the album? I got to listen to him. Oh, here you go. Oh, I scared him. Out of respect. Out of shit. Fire him. Out of respect. All this shit fired in. Nah, out of respect.

I'm the biggest Nas fan, so whatever Nas drop, I'll be like, listen, they think I'm fucking weird or something. I don't think you're weird, I just, I know you're not as big as a Nas fan as you put out to the world.

I listen to Nas all the time, though. Every time he drop. Pressed him for one second each. I listen to him sometimes. Nah, I listen to that nigga every time he drop. I listen to Don Tripp every time he drop, and I to that nigga every time he dropped. I listen to Don Tripp every time he dropped

and I listen to Nas every time he dropped. Gotta let him get on that. Shout out to Step Brothers. Okay, shout out to Don Tripp. Yeah.

Hey, what record was your record on the video game? What's that motherfucker called? Pump It Up? Wait, what?

What was it on? Def Jam Vendetta? You talking about Def Jam Vendetta? Nah, was that on there? Was that on an NBA game? Pump It Up,on? Nah, was that on there? NBA game? Pump it up, I don't think it was on there.

I hear something. NBA Live. My nigga. NBA Live. And I got an NBA Live plaque in my house. Yeah. That's hard. How do you feel about that, though?

The live soundtracks was heat. Live was the shit. No, that soundtrack, it was hard, and it was pain. Live was the shit. They probably having an album. No, I'm with that. I'm just not with NBA Live sending me a plaque.

Man, Joe. I was thinking like that. What year was that? Uh, 03. 03. That was hard, bro. The freestyle. Yeah, Mellow. Yeah, I was about to say that was the hard.

They had the dunk contest on that one. Nah, you a legend for that. Nah, yeah, bro was the hard one. They had the dunk contest on that one. Yeah. Nah, you a legend for that. This nigga's a hooper. Nah, yeah, bro. We locked in. And they all four mad with Mike Vick on the cover. That's when they started doing QB vision, bro. That was different times, bro.

I just wanted to ask you why I brought that up. It's like, how does that work? Like, how do they go about, like, grabbing your record and putting it on? Yes, sir. I'm out of pocket. J.K. was on the phone. Sorry. Even better.

Jersey on the cover. J.K. was the one. Yeah, I'm stupid. Melo wasn't even leading on third. My bad. I'm out of pocket. Yeah, how'd that phone call go or how does that go

with your record being put on? How'd they go about doing that? Well, at that time, I'm signed to Def Jam, so that means that Def Jam did whatever the fuck they wanted

with anything that I made. Oh, damn. Okay. With or without a phone call or courtesy text. All right, Brian, you was TLC. Well, no,

they got done bad. They got done bad. Joe was the left eye. See, niggas look at me and be like, oh, you ain't selling no records. Great. Some of these other niggas have sold millions and millions and millions of records, and it just dmavded math.

So, yeah, that's crazy. But you got the gold plaque, though. That was fire. That's hard. For L. Yeah. But you got the gold plaque though. That was fire. That's hard. Why are you playing like that? I'm watching them. You got one of them sets of you. I'm familiar with that. You got your shit. No, I don't know that one, man.

Look what we put on YouTube, man. What? Yo, why y'all disrespecting me? Oh, man. We have no place to put it. Oh, shit, YouTube, they made them nice, man. You had a white one. Yeah, they good.

What color is yours, man? Black. Damn. Yeah, we we how many subscribers y'all got after this episode we'll be at 400 oh that's the like

hundred one you a dickhead somebody get that gold flag I didn't mean it like that I didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean it like that. We on Joe A. We about to get on Joe A.

We about to get on Joe A. We about to get on Joe A. The 100 one. And we felt good about the 100 one. Joe A. Yes, I did. I got this. Okay.

I probably threw it somewhere. We got our shit hanging. No, y. I didn't. I probably threw it somewhere. But we got our shit hanging. No, y'all don't. That is not hanging up. That's our narrative. Okay. Respect, Joe. Respect, Joe. I didn't mean it like that.

That nigga got real comfortable. Holy shit. Holy fuck. That nigga got real comfortable. Holy shit. Oh, we on joint. We on joint. Oh, man. Wait, what was he talking about? Talking about pumping up, nigga. Oh, yeah.

My gold plaque. My gold plaque. My gold plaque. My gold plaque. Now, to see that happen, that was fire. That was fire. That was fire. That part was fire. L was fire. That was fire. That part was fire.

L bringing me that plaque, I had been asking him for it, or we had been asking him for it for quite some time. He was like, get out of here. So him bringing it up there during the interview,

that was all the way fire. Nah, that's tough. Outside of that. Man, fuck that. Who else had, like, you got a big ass record bro that shit still get played yeah and that shit came on in about seven games today like it's a record like that's what i'm that's the part that i'm proud of like fuck the numbers fuck the plaques like at 21 22 years old

when niggas was like yo make something or we dropping you. I made something. And it went. It's timeless. That's back to my hip hop conversation, though. What are the records being made today that are going to be here 30 years from now? Nigga, March Madness is going to be here. That's never leaving. Yeah, that's never leaving. Future Slap is not everyone's. We can go.

You know what I mean? I don't see too many of these songs being relevant in the next five, let alone ten years. I'm nothing, bro. I mean... Nothing, bro. Kendrick's song gonna be here. Niggas not listening to Sexy Red ten years from now. What? As great as she is. It's gonna be even worse.

It's gonna be somebody else. What's the one? Get It Sexy. Get It Sexy. What? They dropping that. Back that ass up for sure that shit's gonna study I like that take

I ain't mad at that you told him to stop talking about me no no no you're here but pan to the cameras

no the influence nah we out of here to see the way the crowd react when she played up we went to her concert bro

and she was better in her concert in her set than the closing actor that night. Yeah, whoever that was. We ain't going to say no names. It was Moneybag, right? She shut that bitch down. Whoever that was. I mean, damn, who was it?

Allegedly. Moneybag? I don't know Moneybag. Moneybag. Oh, Moneybag, yeah. She shut the stadium down. Well, arena, I mean. Barefoot.

Shut it down, bro. She was bare stadium down. Well, arena, I mean. Shut it down. She was barefoot. Barefoot. And she was pregnant. In Indianapolis. It was white families with their kids on their shoulders singing this shit. Yeah. People don't even celebrate February differently.

If I'm a money bag, yo, I don't know if I'm letting sexy red open up. He didn't know? I'll be honest with you. I don't know if I'm doing that. I wouldn't have did it. That's a problem she wasn't she wasn't even the

she was literally the opening act how long ago was it this was last year last year last training camp I'm not doing that that shit was rock last training camp

no we we was there I was like man people nigga we was walking on the floor like on the stage I could touch the stage last year sexy rap was sexy rap

that song had just kind of dropped yeah it had just whatever her song was kind of dropping she was catching crazy stride she wasn't all the way but she was writing her crate but after seeing that i was all this makes sense i went to a sweet 16 my stepkid sweet 16 last year october that's actually when when Drake dissed me. Shout out to Drizzy, man. At that moment, though? Shout out to Drizzy. Hope you're on TV.

No, but after Sweet 16, nothing but Sexy Red. And all of them kids singing every word in unison. I'm sitting there like, holy shit. So, yeah, I can see that being a problem. So you don't think that's going to be back that ass up for them? I do not. What?

She's a big artist, bro. I don't see her dying off. I don't think she's going to die off, but I just said five. Like Meek Mills, he going to keep having that run with that intro. Anytime that drop, that's still gonna be. But niggas are saying they're getting tired of that. Yeah, bro. But when it drop, it's still a clap.

I'm not refuting that. I love it. When it's on, it's on. You might not put it on anymore. But when it come on, it drop. But I never seen people even doubt it. That's why I'm saying, even to see the doubt or the hesitation towards it now, it's like, come on, y'all.

When that drop, it don't matter. You rap that shit. So I think it's a few songs out here. I see what y'all talking about totality. Yeah, but I don't know

if it was songs back when you was rapping or you still rap, but I'm saying. No, I don't. That's what I'm going to say. No, the fuck I do not. I mean,

you probably be in the shower spitting rap, bro. I don't write rap. I don't think sometimes I think it's something think I know you do bro Jose cut the cat when Yanni said

that he got out rap for you I know you were just like nigga I got a verse right now what was the uh

nigga I got a verse right now the shit Yanni wrote for Drake is harder than the bitch I don't know if you tapped

in or not I don't know you heard some of or not. I don't know. You heard some of that shit he wrote. Hey, that Jumbo Tribe, well, that shit hit different. Shout out to Yachty. Shout out to Yachty. He's so crazy. This nigga, he'll set you right on up.

I'm trying to get with that Mike Jackson shit, man. Hey, we had a crazy couple weeks. that Mike Jackson shit, man. Hey, we had a crazy couple weeks. The Mike Jackson and then the D-Wade. Oh, my God. I'm not saying nothing about D-Wade, bro.

Oh, the D-Wade heart thing. No, no. No, we're not doing that one. Who said it? Teague? I just said it. Never mind. I'm not even saying it, bro.

Somebody tell me. Edit it out. I said James Harden was better than D-Wade. I had him higher on the shooting guard list. Boy, they killed Somebody tell me. Edit it out. I said James Harden was better than D-Wade. I had him higher on the shooting guard list. Boy, they killed me. Everybody in my head.

ESPN took the tape. Went crazy. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. They took it. No, they ran with it. They had a whole little

series. We was first take A block. Since we talking about basketball, I do want to ask you, who is the third best shooting guard in the world, man? Who?

D-Wade. Yeah, I had said he was four. He's a third guess. I do want to ask you. Third best you can go in the world, man. Who? D-Wade. Yeah, I had to say he was four. He's a third best. I ain't mad at you for that. Yeah, I'll take D-Wade to three. I almost thought that was like a fact. I didn't think that was something that could even be argued. I just said the way when I played James Harden, I played D-Wade, I played James Harden.

When I played James Harden, like everybody focused on James Harden. When you played D-Wade, you knew he was cold. Like, no disrespect. You knew he was the GOAT, like one of the GOATs. But you just didn't, like, it wasn't the same energy. When you played the Houston Rockets with James Horton, bro, you had to do everything to stop him. Like, don't switch.

Trapping him. I don't know. We had all type of defensive plans. Y'all doing, like, this, not y'all, but, like, some of the newer age players that's doing this revisionist history thing where championships matter none. They don't.

I mean, but you got to see who we run up against. I'm hearing this more and more today. Because it's, listen, Joe. I mean, y'all don't game me up. We just talk about pure skill. He was played against these niggas bro so you take the championships don't matter it's who we game planning for niggas ain't game planning for clint capella and patrick beverly you know i mean he played when d-way had brian and bosh and he's just basically talking about the focal point

for him to still have those statistics versus everybody in the NBA was a little bit harder. He was averaging 36 in the hole. He was a whole focal point. And led the league in assists. But why are you telling me about D-Wade on the heatles? Because he got that ring before. Yeah, he's skipping a whole career.

But he's just speaking of his time playing. I'll give you an example. But he didn't play 05 D- his time playing. I give you an example. But he didn't play 05 D. Wade. I give you an example. No, D. Wade was a problem. I'm not saying that. But D. Wade, best year.

No, no. I ain't no hater. I always tell everybody the truth. I think it was cold. But his best year, he averaged 30. He led the league in scoring at 30. James Harden, best year, he averaged 36. And led the league in assists.

And led the league in assists. Like, what are we doing? And their team was winning. Okay. He never got made the playoffs. See, and this be my problem with Hoopers sometimes. And Dwyane Wade missed the playoffs with them. Let's talk about them.

Let's talk Hoops for a little bit. Okay. Let's talk Hoops. Let's talk Hoops. Y'all know that, cool, what happens on the court is on the court but in the boardroom somewhere there's a plan it's just like a music there's a plan that says we want to increase scoring yeah of course we want to increase the three-point shot we want to do so the leagues that you're talking about are two different leagues but you gotta think a lot you

want to increase it but motherfuckers got to do it. D-Wade didn't shoot threes. So he was going to be the same player that he is. I don't think, but pre-Steph, nobody looked at threes like that. No, they didn't. But my whole point, when they did, James Harden was able to adapt and became one of the best at it. I'm saying D-Wade was still in the league when the threes adjusted, and he still was shooting middies. You remember when they lost to the Dallas?

They were shooting all mid-rangers. They was going under the screen. Him and Brian was missing. We was in the league at that time. Steph was shooting hella threes. James Harden was doing his shit. You don't think that's tougher when you know a dude is not going to shoot that shot and he still do what he want?

Nah, I think it's tougher when I know you got the capabilities of making that shot. Because now I'm at your mercy. And then James stopped looking like James once they stopped paying him rest with them whistles. I ain't... It was a whole... What's not looking like James? What, James, 35

and you still average 20 inches? You know the move. Oh, no, no no that shit that shit yeah yeah no that shit was unbelievable you can't knock him for finessing the lead Joe

I did knock him D-Way used to do the pump fake right he'd get you on the air yeah man Paul Pierce pump fake get you to the free throw line

he's still pump faking wait I give it to Harden over D-Way and Harden did all that shit straight from the strip club like Harden Harden we ain't gonna straight from the strip club. Like, Harden, Harden.

We ain't gonna speak on that. I'll meet y'all, I'll meet y'all, so where the next game at, I'll be there. Like, he was doing it like that. He was fly to Vegas.

And he did it with a body suit on too. Did a fat suit. He showed up with a fat suit. Joe! That didn't work. Hey, that's one of the finest negotiation tactics

I've ever seen in my life. That nigga went full Norbert and got paid I wanna ask you though who's the greatest Nick ever oh who is the greatest and then I want your

favorite Nick ever Nick yo who's your greatest and your favorite greatest well greatest speaks to winning yeah

go crazy so you probably gotta go fucking Clyde Clyde you probably gotta go Clyde well Clyde. You probably got to go Clyde. Walt Clyde Frazier is probably the greatest nigga of all time. It stayed relevant still with them crazy ass suits.

Nigga Beyonce. He's commentating the game. He's perplexing and slixing. Yeah. Nigga Fitzpeak. The Rays. The Black Rags. He's probably the greatest nigga.

Yeah. Who your favorite nigga? Oh, man. I got a lot of favorite Nicks. Give us two. Pablo Prigioni. I fuck with Pablo. He coached me in Minnesota.

That was my guy. Yeah, he spoke about him before. That's crazy. He's not my favorite, but I like him a lot. Yeah, that's his real man. Pablo was cool as fuck. How many other? We saw your coach.

39-year-old rookie. Yeah. I remember bro talking me hell stories about him. Yeah. Pablo's nice Pablo came from the trenches too Pablo

he cool as fuck I wasn't expecting that one that's a good one look nah I was just talking shit he's not my favorite

but you a dickhead I probably appreciate the shout outs but I don't really fuck with him that's crazy

yeah that's crazy I fuck with Pablo but Aunt Mason fucking LJ Really fuck with him. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I fuck with Pablo. And Mason. Fuck it, LJ, four-point play. Like that nickname, Sprewell, after he choked, what's his name? Yeah. He like, oh, nigga.

Yeah, I like the niggas that are fucking with him. Talk to the niggas. Did you ever go to the game when Jeremy Lin was there? No. Yeah, you should have won. That shit was crazy. We played him when he was on that run. They beat us, too. That shit was.

I've been to the Garden a hundred times. That was the craziest I've ever seen the Garden, bro. It was like 70 cameras everywhere. Whole floor. Shit was a zoo, bro. I've never seen nothing like it. You was guarding Jeremy Lin? Yeah.

What'd he do? I never thought. I think he probably had like 20. I never thought that was sustainable. I knew it wasn't going to work that long. He wasn't. Then when Mello came back, he had the nerve to be like, this is my team or some shit, nigga.

Basketball. It's over now. For the money side, it was kind of like, this is my team, bro. I don't want nobody that went to Stanford thinking it's their team we went to Harvard Harvard worse

that's worse he had y'all lit though he did have the dicks lit he had y'all lit bro alright Mello didn't even really turn his knob off though like that

for real that's crazy oh pause that was crazy I was crazy turn his knob off Joe chill out

that was crazy he cut it we'll cut the water out. I heard his knobble. Joe, chill out. That was crazy. He cut the water off. Y'all niggas are out of line. Joe, you too damn old. I know. I know. First of all. You right.

You right. But Linsanity didn't really stop. Mello was kind of, and Mello my favorite player ever, but he was kind of hating on Linsanity, bro. He wasn't hating. Should have let him rock his year out. Bro, it went back to order. Order was the story, bro. He wasn't hating. Chris Childs him rock his year out. It went back to order. Order was the story, bro.

He wasn't hate. Chris Childs had to punch Kobe in the face. Ba-boom! Don't do that. Don't do that. He did, though. He did.

You can't even say that. He like all the time. I can't comment on Kobe. He a Charles Oakley fan. I can't comment on Kobe. I fuck with Oak. Yeah. Charles Oakley

choking out the Ushers is still one of my favorite memes of all time. I don't like Dolan kicking him out. That was crazy. Charles Oakley choking out the ushers is still one of my favorite memes of all time I don't like Dolan kicking him out that was crazy Charles Oakley coaching in the big three

is funny as hell wow y'all gotta see the play he wrote up one day bro I hope one day they show they zoom in on the play he wrote up

it's the funniest shit ever him and Gary Payton I don't know who works between Gary Payton being the coach of the big three is still one of my favorite things on earth

them niggas is living out. Like, will you watch your son hoop? They do niggas. Sad ass niggas. Get that from your mama's side, nigga. GP asked the nigga, why are you sad? Ask the nigga why he's sad as crazy. Because he don't want to be sad, but he can't fix it.

Niggas who professionally bro why are you saying GP niggas trying to get a check bro I love the victory I swear to god culture niggas that tough on 303 basketball

bro I just flew in today I just got here just and that nigga was oh god I just got here just got here yelling at me they gotta let us commentate the game bro they have to bro

holy shit that would be so hard no they have to let us bro we working on that man we got some big plans we love the big three like we was just there

in Boston bro that's a beautiful beautiful thank god I let y'all do that oh yeah that's the next step in the Thank God I let y'all do that. Oh, yeah. That's the next step in the athlete podcast. Let the athlete fucking commentate.

Let them commentate. And that's what, I mean, we ain't gonna talk about too much, but the Travis Kelsey deal that people talking about, it's more than just podcasting. It's deeper than rap, especially with the new NBA licensing and things. You're going to see a lot of these people clean up their acts because everybody's bidding for next year. That makes sense.

Everybody's bidding for that content. We're going to see who's going to win it. Listen, man. Power Father, we appreciate you sliding on this, man. Tell the people where that glass is right now. You ain't got to wrap up as soon as he do this. You could give it a second. God damn.

Listen, he got kids, man. God damn. No, He got kids, man. God damn. When his wife sent him a text. We're just getting going. Shout out to Sierra. We got a game. Shout out to his wife. It's crazy. No, I love Sierra.

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