Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Joe Johnson, Roscoe Dash, Pour Minds, DJ Drama ATLANTA LIVE SHOW

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Club 520's 2025 Off the Court Tour is officially in the books, and today we bring you the squad's stop in Atlanta, Georgia! Atlanta Hawks legend Joe Johnson, Roscoe Dash, and ‘Pour Minds’ all join the show in ATL! Joe Johnson talks about his time playing with Teague in Atlanta and shares the incredible story behind his famous Paul Pierce crossover. ISO Joe also talks about Jeff's rookie NBA season and being his vet in the league. Don't miss Roscoe Dash talk about his legendary rap career in an incredible talk with the guys. And one of the top comedy podcasts out, ‘Pour Minds,’ joins the guys to talk all things dating and their career in the podcast industry!All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I forgot where we got a pod. All right, man. I think the vibes is right now. Ladies, how y'all doing tonight? Make some noise of four minds in the building. more time, God damn it. Hey y'all. First and foremost, we appreciate y'all pulling up. How y'all doing, man, y'all going crazy right now? How's life? I'm good. I don't work up a little sweet.

Y'all know I got a bad knee, bitch. Shit. All right, man, we're going to have some fun to kick it off for the show. We're going to play pour or pass. I'm going to see how y'all feeling about the questions. You let me know if you're pouring it or if you passed in the first things first for you. Me. And be here.

Uh-oh. Y'all two favorite drinks. Poor pass, E&J or Taylor? Port. Taylorport. Of course, because we ladies. We're going to drink

a little wine. Okay. Taylorport is a wino drink. I feel like they both wino drinks, but out of the two, I'm going to choose

Taylorport. And also, that's our sponsor. And that's too. Respect. Pay the bills, no disrespect. That's a wild

sponsor, but they must have heard their song. But which I don't know is my boy, he's sponsored by NJ, he got a freestyle. Who got a freestyle?

I got it here now. Nope, you got to do it? It ain't available yet. It ain't. Chill loud, chill out. Let's move on. Moving along. Move it along.

Shout to copyright, man. We're going to get the freestyle load enough for y'all for show. Next question. If you met him, man, he's cool. The vibes is right. But he happened to just live with his baby mama. Is that poor or pass? Pass.

He lived with his baby mama? They're roommates right now. They just figure. your shit out. No, because if they're roommates, they let me know he don't need to be trying to talk to me. What if he's about to move out, though? What if what?

What if he's about to move out? What's the hold of? No, I'm saying maybe, maybe they just broke up. You should have moved out the next day. I'm going to give you a scenario. Fuck it. And I know this happening all the time in ATL. So a nigga is, listen, a dude, a nigga break up with his girl, right?

And then he's still living with her. All his shit is still there. But his guys take him out. He meet Lex. How are you doing? Take me through that. Take me through that. You know what I mean?

It's fresh. You feeling he? No, the reason I'm not, because if I was a baby mama and my baby daddy still live with me, we still fuck it. We still fucking.

Not on the first day of the breakup. Yay, trying to hang out of that. What if I'm really tired of your ass, though? What if I'm really tired? I'm for real. A dude, literally, like, what is his time limit to move out? Or it's just an automatic no. Why would he not move out immediately?

You know. It's just fresh. I just told her I don't like her no more today. Okay. And so you should be out of the next tomorrow. Okay, respect. Unless. Unless, y'all got to split everything, and that's why you need to stay.

Okay, what if I got to stay to the lease is up? Huh? What if it's three months left on the lease? Then you can still move out. If it's only three months left, that ain't the same. that long. Okay, respect. Because he'll help her with the rent and move out.

So y'all don't, they don't have no grace, DJ. What you got? You don't got no grace. Next question. Pour a pass. If he hit your line and say he can win TIG time tonight. Oh, Lord. He said what?

Not on wait. If he's going to take time tonight. Are y'all playing with TIG time? Oh, you don't know what TIG time is? Uh-uh. Take me through that. Take me through that. What is that?

He's going to show him to get now. Listen, he's going to show him to your house with a jersey on, and no drawers. Jersey on no drawers? Winnie the pool style? Like, what are we talking about with? Like, nothing on the bottom? And who?

You are me? The man of me. No help. I'm cool with a little Winnie the pool style. Poor. You don't want no nigga walking around your house with his t-shirt and no draws. I ain't mad at it.

Didn't us just say that on that song, trading places? I mean, they said. She out of pocket. She's crazy. Oh, we're about to have some fun tonight. Where Barbie at, man? We need some more drinks up here. Yeah.

Right. Oh. Oh, that's what. Damn, B. got love and hey. What's up, Atlanta? Oh, hell. Oh, hey. Oh, hey.

Yeah. Okay, boy. Let me do my job. Hold on, hold on. What we got today? Tea time. Oh, yeah. We ain't got no pennies on.

Ain't got no penny on. We ain't got no penny on on the desk floor. My damn drink. I can carry this tray. I can carry this work. Girl, get my dream. Because you ain't got nothing on for real. I are silly, man.

Look at, she's about to drop the plate. We ain't the wrong city if you're saying that. I got a microphone. Okay, we got you. Hey, dropped the mic. Now, that's how it's that he is. You don't let it dry. It's okay.

When we hold them, like, man, I ain't reaching in there, brother. Like yourself. That's how they get into them gang. We got A.T.R. on this is here. We are our business. That's how they get into them games, do motherfuck of those between their legs,

dick. I didn't bring him in no drink. He got a whole bottle over here. Oh, okay. Respect. With his glasses on. He already faded. He's been cutting up.

All right, while Barbie's up here, we're going to have some phone. We're going to ask you this, too. Pour or past. If a man hits you up, he'd say he want to take you out to eat. He ain't going to tell you where y'all going. And when you get to the destination, you find out it's Texas Roadhouse. Hey, nigger, don't do it.

Let them answer the fucking question. No, nigga, don't do that. Let all ladies answer this question. Poor or pass. Are y'all something? The rolls kind of good. You're going to pull me up there. That's how I'm going to put me up.

Is there the option for that to be pre-dinner? Because I would get the rolls. And then we can go to dinner for real. So basically what you're saying? She said pre-dinner? Pre-dinner is crazy. We're for need. So we're supposed to go somewhere else?

After Texas and Roe House? That's the pre-game? Yeah, that's the pre-game. We can take a few shots. Get some rolls, fill out of stuff up on their bread. If you get shots to Texas Roald House, the police are on the way. She's going afterwards. Oh, where are we going afterwards?

And this is your first date. This is your first date. It's the first date. She's going to go to a little. Allie. Little Alley or Marlisleau. But me, I'm at wrong. Bring me the rabbi.

Yeah. Oh, Wendy. Yeah. It's going to be tough as hell. Yeah. Texas Roadhouse steak. It ain't going to be finished. Oh, Lord.

They're supposed to put in your place. They soundly good. Ask Lex when the last, when the last time you ate at Texas Roll House. He got you in my business. Exactly. She's no fine dining when she heard. What's y'all? I got a question.

What's your biggest ick in a man? Mm. Don't do that now. Shit. I hate men that be super braggy when you first meet them. Super brady? Yeah, just bragging.

Bragging about what they got. Oh, bragging about what they did for other girls. Yeah, just show me. Do it. If you really who you say you are, just show up and see them. We be lying. You're saying what? We be lying, duh.

What the fuck? Yeah, I'm both the motherfuck of Chanel. No, I told you like a month in. That shit was Michael Coors, but it's not good. Shit, fuck you're talking about Can the nigger take y'all shopping on the first date? Yeah. No.

Of course. Why don't you even ask? Poor! Poor! Look, and do. And do? Lord. Nah, well, some girls I ask, they said that's not, like, respectful to take a woman out the gate to the mom.

Because they say you're supposed to damn their quarter. Who said that? I ain't doing that. I did. That nigger lied. That niger lived in a... That nike can't live in a... That they can't ever live in a lady.

There you have to be a kid me. All right. Barbie said it on my mom. Never. Never. We talked about this on the pond. We talked about this on the pod. She ain't never living in a letter.

It's the pick-me bitches that was up under our post like, no, Texas Roll House for our first date is good. I'll look for you. You don't have to spend money on me. I mean, I feel like that's fine if it's within that man's budget. I do. I feel like that's fine. Like him taking his girl to take his row house. Yeah, quite for that.

Don't clapping. That ain't humming. Yeah, I didn't say that was my nigga, though. But. Okay. The niggas, I told him. That's his budget, and that's the man that you chose today. And that's what he can afford to do then.

You know, cool. But I'm not champion. Why she's talking to Barbie like this? Because, look, we're going to talk about it. Because they was on my ass about it. Because I said, I didn't want to go to Texas Rollhouse. She said, yeah. What was the place for Chief Day?

What do we say? Okay. Listen. And I said, $100 for two people is cheap going out to eat. Do you agree? Yeah. Oh, that hell, no. And you would probably spend $150 on this ticket.

I can't stand, nigger. I absolutely feel. It would always be cheap. Yeah, and I feel like that is cheap because that's just the food. We don't want to drink. Exactly. By the time we drink two or three drinks, an appetizer in our meal, we're spending $100. Yeah.

For $100. I agree. And I said, me and my girls, we spend that all the time. So the men's like, oh, no, da-da-da-da. Then don't figure it. I'm an alcoholic. $100 is my drinks alone, bitch. All right, all right.

Let's bring it back in. Let's bring it back in. Shout terrible. They booing y'all. They drug me to hell on the end of that. One mic, one mic, one mic. I'd be like that in our company. All right, poor pass.

The man is perfect. Y'all have a good time. Uh-oh. Y'all go swimming one time. You found out he got a unit. He got a unit? Yeah. I ain't mad at that because I do, too.

She's a room. She a room. You know, I would only be upset because why you ain't tell me, boo? I was like, I'm saying you that. Why I got to find out because it's floating in the pool. Like, you could have told me that a prank. And I still probably would have dated you, but like, it's weird that you wouldn't tell me. And then I'm finding out because it floated off.

You want to laugh in his face. I don't know about floating off. Somebody got some good units out here. And some men look sexy ball. Like, I don't know what it's with me. me and, like, not wanting to just embrace the baldness. A man's biggest insecurity is his hair. So if the nigga got the, I'm going to ask you this.

So if a nigga got the unit on, right? Y'all, six months in, it's time for him to get a new one. That motherfucker is. Hold on, that motherfucker gets a lifting in the back. It's bald. But you already six months in, you really like him. You didn't told baby girl about him. You locked in.

Is that a deal breaker? We six months in. I'm just not finding out. He got a unit. But you damn their love this nigger. Y'all, he damneder the little spoon. Oh. I'm just going to let him know gently, babe.

I think it's time for you. Well, I first don't be like, are you wearing a union? Come here. Because I just, I don't know. Like, that might be grounds for me to stop talking to him because you're dishonest. Lying-ass, nigga. How is he dishonest? Y'all never talked about it.

Exactly. You lied by omission. He didn't lie though That's just his hairstyle That's just his hairstyle But why wouldn't you tell me That you were a piece Because I mean

It wasn't time to tell you yet I didn't think it was a big thing You liked me for me You gonna want to know if I won I'm natural baby This is Yeah this is natural Let us tug on it

Let's see You can write this motherfucker You can wave Yeah Waves don't swim So they hate on him Oh man Y'all went crazy

for poor passing. Makes some noise with Barbie, man, starting trouble in the crowd soon as she gets over here. But we want to talk about y'all. How did y'all meet? How did y'all start poor moms? We met working at the strip clubs together.

We wasn't dancing, though. We wasn't dancing. I'm about to ask what y'all names was. No, we was bartenders. We worked working behind, I mean, we met working behind a bar together at a strip club in Houston. We became really cool.

I moved to Atlanta a year. after we met, we kept in touch the whole time, and then a year after I moved here, I had convinced her to move here, and then we ended up starting a YouTube channel. That's what happened. Been going crazy ever since. Y'all have a lot of stuff going on your

pod. I want to ask a couple questions. What's the wildest guests y'all had on your show? Because y'all had some people on that motherfucker's show. I don't know, because sometimes I'd be feeling like, ain't nobody wilder than us. I know. I do feel like... We're wilder than the guests. But you know what? I think the person that came and really

turned up with us was probably T-Pain T-Pain. Like, we got really lit. And it was like a story. Remember the story he told? Mm-hmm. About a certain, when you're not going to say the name. Yeah. But we literally had to edit it out because it was like really, it was crazy.

What was the story? I don't, I don't remember the story if we're being real. They're like, you lie. There ain't some line-ass knickers over here. Be nice. Be nice. I think that was probably like one of our guests. We were like, okay.

And swims up, too. Oh, yeah, that was a crazy. Slim Thug was like, he was a wild guest. Yeah, he was a... Yeah, I mean, and it was even more crazy because it's like, we knew him, we know him in real life. So it's like, why are you cutting up like these on the college? He asked that every five seconds.

Every five seconds. Like, why y'all ain't give me none? We did a counter. He actually asked like 45 times. Yeah, it was a counter. It was a counter. Now, see? Great question.

He's like, no, our brother. Now, this question, this question for Lex P, you got a theory about niggas and socks. I do? In the bedroom. Oh, yes. Please elaborate for our crowd here. I feel, I don't, are you talking about when I'm talking about when they have their socks on? Yeah.

Yeah, like, I feel like if we're having sex and you keep your socks on, you don't love me for real. You don't trust me. You ain't, my man. Like, if a nigger, it's ladies. I know it's not a lot of ladies in here. If a nigger you wait right now, you ain't ever seen. his feet, that nigger do not fuck with you.

That's not true. Or he got a black toenil. Because need his feet be ugly. Or he got a black toenel. My shit, my toenel is black as fuck. That's what I'm saying. He might be insecure about his feet, though. I always look.

Are he hitting in front of back? I need to see. Check it off. A nigga might need it for that grip, though. It's mostly, what if a nigga hitting you on his carpet. No. But they didn't hit you on this carpet right here,

this old lady carpet. No, I do not trust people that don't take their socks off. Hey, be here, them sky's on socks. He curled up. Feast line this shit. Nigger, nigger slipping out of that bullfucking. Trying to hold on.

She's trying to throw that bullfucking back. I feel like socks do take away from the intimacy, though. I need to see you butt, booty hole. Yeah, we need to be naked. I want to see everything. So, bro. What would y'all feel if you were having sex with a woman

and she had her socks on? I'm cool with that. Every time. Every, not every time. Every time you fuck her, she got her socks on. You're like, babe, you can take those off. I'll be comfortable. She's like, no, I'm good.

No, it's not really about this. I mean, like, if we're in the shower, we're fresh out of the shower on that, but. Damn. Shit, if we, if we fresh out the club, I'm just taking my pants off of it. This is game time. See, see, you don't fuck with that bitch.

You don't fuck with that. Yeah, I do. I'm saying, though, like, I don't think you should judge, man, because he wanted to keep his socks on, though. That's kind of crazy. That don't mean he don't love you. But I want to see the real you.

I need to see them. You might say, we might take a shower together and you see him. You're not, y'all not that big on the motherfucking feet. I am. No, not she is for real. You just said you'll let a nigga

hit you with a jersey on. Fuck, God, you ain't worried about no socks. I absolutely would. Why would I not? If that's what make him comfortable But I need to know He can't wear that two socks I need that jersey though

That's red Oh man Y'all That nigga said a Horwood classic And you know That's once he get comfortable Once he at my house all the time

You know he can walk around With his t-shirt on You are a fucking Not his t-shirt at his panties on No for sure No penny That nigga might swing the other side If you just casually walking around the house of the t-shirt

with no draws on You're the other way, buddy No, nigga You can't t-trop out of pocket I want to ask, like, what's your beef with my uncle, though? Who is your... Okay, we just talked about these

backstays. Yeah, like, Kim, that's my uncle. I don't like what you said, like... What did I say? Like, you was like, I hate when... What did you say about the song that you don't like at the brunch? well that was the go-iopoly song

yeah she don't like that song but I can't stop loving you as a classic like what's your beef you know that's debatable so we were talking about songs like very popular songs that everybody loves that we don't like right and I said I hate it closer to my dreams

oh I'm a hater fuck that positivity it's talking to be a hater I don't want to hear that shit So what y'all want to hear at brunch When y'all go out? Not no fucking Kim

Yeah, I don't want to hear no Kim Or no closer to my dreams at Brinch I'm trying to turn up I want to hear a little Migos I want to hear a little future So no RNB or a little gunner You said what? No R&B at brunch

We can do R&B at Brinch But I just feel like I can't stop I don't say you're like That's gonna kill the vibe I ain't trying to hear that at Brin. I don't want to hear Rasa. I don't know people like swirking by my pancakes

because some people twerk Wendby phoneke. So why the fuck we're going to play Amigos then? I like R&B. Okay. I do like R&B at brunch. I do. But let's turn it down too. Sometimes the music be too loud.

A good DJ going to have a good balance of R&B and hip-hop. But they're not going to play Kim, no. Okay. Respect. All right, I want to ask you out some questions. Would you rather? Would you rather date an athlete or a musician? Neither.

Yeah. Neither. You got to pick one. Oh, I have to pick one. I pick one. Well, I would pick an athlete. Athlete? I would pick an athlete.

Okay. Athlete or pastor? Athlete or pastor? They're athletes. Uh-huh. Because I want to still be able to listen to we getting fucked tonight in a car. You can't do that with the pastor. Yes, you can.

bitch. Yes, you can. Yeah, you're picking the athlete over the man of God. The athlete might be a man of God, too. He might be in his Bible and in that field. Okay, athlete or photographer? Athlete. Damn.

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so i would say jim trainer i'm a i don't care what the occupation is not the athlete damn not the athlete i ain't an athlete he's not athlete i ain't an athlete he's And he look opinion too I'm sorry What the fuck That nigga played linebacker Respect I know that's right

What's your beef What's your beef with athletes though For real What's your beef? Tell the truth Don't lie I'm not lying I keep it real

I just I have never seen A situation With in my close friend group Of it being a good situation I'll say that I'm cool He said that ain't mean

I'm good I'm going to learn about the people's mistakes And I'm mm-mm So Would you prefer a rapper or athlete A lit rapper A athlete Okay

Damn what's wrong with the rapper Why do you look like that? No I would never want a day the rapper If he lit if he's on top of the world That's fine But most rappers don't own themselves But that's a topic for another time Respect

She's a little too tapped in. Yeah, if anything, I would want the nigga that own the label. Oh, okay. So that's why you can't take her to Texas Royal House. She wants the nigga that own Texas Royal House. Exactly. Yes.

I respect it. Another question. What's the crazier place to go on a first day? If you talk about that, that's my girl, sit your ass back. What's the crazy place to go on the first day? What's the crazy place to go on the first day? I said a day back home.

That's talking. The strip club or a funeral? Hold on, you said what? What's a crazy of first date? A strip club trip or a funeral? A funeral. Yeah, because strip club is fine for a first day. Man, what this is going to hold me?

If I tell y'all who made these questions, you won't believe me. My mother can take you to a funeral. They got a pocket. You want to take me to your Aunt Geraldine funeral on the first day? I think I got show uncle. I got motion. You know, Levin. Nah, that's wild.

I will block you. You can't even slide you up your funeral. No, I ain't been to a funeral. That's crazy. What's the worst date? Both of y'all can answer this. What's the worst date y'all didn't bid all? Say his name, too.

I ain't going to say his name. What team that nigga played for? What team he played for? Yeah. Because we heard about y'all. One of my niggas that who said, one of y'all ain't shit. And we're up here, and we ain't doing that

because they ain't here to defend the team. Be here was a football nigga. It was. That nigga played for the Falcons. He said, that niggins said Lex ain't worth a quarter. But I didn't want to do that because this is my first time.

She's tall. I'm about to have me want to do. He said, she's a potential breeder. She's a potential breeder. She's a potential breeder. Oh, you just be fun, guys. He just knew that was going to. So I'm up here to get y'all to

speak y'all true. Okay. So what's the worst day you've been on? Honestly, I just had a conversation about this last night. I just think

it's a bad date. Like you said, when niggas be named dropping and doing all that shit. But also, like, I can't stand. Like, I'm a big girl, right? Like,

hold on, nigga. He said it. Slow your rules. You want to say it like that. You said whoever it was. Hold on. He did say it like that. He said,

Yeah. Be here. Remember that video when the kid was like, go get the gun. Damn. Damn.

Not too much. No, go ahead. Go ahead. No, so it's like, I'm like, I'm 5, 8, 5, 9. So when I wear heels, I'm like 6-1, 6-2

because I like big heels. Right. And like, I felt like he was just being weird because he was a big-ass nigga. He kept calling like regular Uber's and we squeezed in the back of the kids. Oh, like this.

The hunt. He was like, yeah, because when you order an Uber Black, it ain't no difference for real. I said, yes, it is. Yes, it is. He ain't getting no Uber Black. Man. That's right.

He don't get Uber Blacks. You got to order the Uber Black. And he was tall to. He put up. Bigson back in his Prius. And then don't. Trying to watch people in a priest is crazy. And then he was trying to order

an Excel and hoping that it was going to get upgraded. That bitch pulled up. in a minivan. You got me fucked up. At least you had a seat by yourself. You need a single seat. No. But a minivan better than a priest.

Yeah, but no. Does height matter, though, legs for you? Honestly, it doesn't. Hold on, nigger. Niggas be like... He's probably five, three. Look down here, yeah. Look at it.

No, it doesn't matter, though. It's not like a deal breaker anymore. All right, so a nigga 5-7 can talk to you. Five-seven? Man, you just said it don't matter. When heels on, she's like 5'11, no. No, I'm literally six foot, six-one with my heels. So I feel like as long as like when I'm in flats,

and we can see out of eye, are we good? Like with my flats on. And, like, but I care more about the size. I don't like skinny niggas. I like niggas with that meat. A barbecue rib. You feel me? What meat we're talking about

Both Respect What about you? It's not a poor mind The type matter for me Yeah Yeah I mean I'm short

Like I'm 5 too So So I just feel like You just need to be taller To me At least 5 7 I prefer

Because I feel like Little niggas be short I mean Little niggas be angry And mean Damn What niggas be mean What

Little niggas be mean. They be having a chip on their shoulders. Because they're small. Yeah, because they're little. They already got that against them. So they'd be angry about it. Yeah, shout to all my niggas 5'7 out there, man. Respect.

Oh. Y'all mean, I'm saying that because I've dated like shorter men and then I've also dated tall men. And I just feel like short men be mean. Yeah. The taller men got better attitudes. They do, yeah. They definitely got an attitude.

Because they be tall. They be happy. They know that they date that nigger. But also with Tall men They be making it Their personality Sometimes

They do They be like Yeah, nigga I'm 6-8 And you slew foot They knock me Bitch We ain't fin to make

No athletes Hoh-ass nigga Fuck out of here You ain't wrong I'll be looking at the knees Bitch And they don't be having I know on ass

When them calf muscles When they go in At the bottom You ain't shit Niggin' hell You ain't wrong And sometimes I be having a little CTE. Yeah.

CTE is crazy. Hey. Now y'all body shaming. Oh, I'm a body shaming, nigger. That's crazy. I don't give a fuck. Oh, man, listen, we got to get a full episode with y'all in. We appreciate y'all.

We appreciate y'all. One time for the one time. Thank y'all. Next be a drain of cold. Ladies, we appreciate y'all. Thank y'all so much. It's a fun. One thousand percent.

Oh, man. Listen. Long away the episode We got a guy in the building Yes, sir T, yo O.G, you vet, man. Talk to him. Man, I got to tell the story

immediately as soon as you get your ass out here because I'm surprised you showed up. But anyway. So, man, we came here to Atlanta maybe what, about two or three months ago? Yes, sir. Yes. You know this nigga do yoga,

all the type of origami and shit. Yes. So we pull up, we like, Joe, we in town, we came to see this nigga. Literally, spent. You came to see Josh. No, we came to see you. We spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to get to AT.

Hold on, Joe, it's not your turn. We drove past that motherfucker yoga studio. I said, Tee, let's shoot this motherfucker. He ain't answered the phone. Let's blow this motherfucker up. Hey, why we knock on the door? We hit that motherfucker. We got your ass in there, Joe.

It was a white lady in there with her legs behind her head and shit. Get your stupid ass out the way, Joe. And then this thing got the nerve to write me on Instagram Y'all digger's funny as hell What the fuck? Under all our posts What's your reason? Man, I can't go to the grocery store

Or nothing without somebody stopping and asking me Man, when are you gonna go on the 5th? I'm like, bro, it's gonna happen. Timing is everything, baby Yeah, that's a fact. Look, we hear that way y'all bring up that old, that bad ju-ju Yeah, we're bringing bad juju around here, man My fault, brother.

For sure, man, glad we can follow him again. happen, man. I want to ask you. He always telling stories. What was the first time you met Young Nacho in the locker? What was he like? Man, you know, when you draft, when players get drafted like the very next day, they go to the team they got drafted to, and they do their

press conference and all that. In 18 years, playing in the NBA, I never went to any of these press conferences. But T. you get drafted, I go to the press conference. You know, I had watched him in college, and I was a big fan, bro, so I got a chance not only meet him, but meet his parents, me, his folks.

And that was a cool, you know, a cool little deal. So I was a fan since day one, man. I was a fan since day one. Appreciate that, old head. I remember that day because in college I played point guard and shooting guard. And then they was like, yeah, he are starting shooting guard. Nigger, I'm 6'1, nigga. You 6'8?

I said, damn, my dad says, you ain't going to play, nigga. I said, ain't no way he don't play power forward. They was like, nah, he's the two guard. I said, Lord, it's over with, and I didn't play. He was right. Now, cheer. The point guard position, when you come into the NBA, especially for young guys, that's probably, you know,

the hardest position to play. It's kind of equivalent to football as a quarterback coming into the NFL. That's shit hard, man. It takes a while. You've got a league grown-ass men who've been in the league for 5, 10, 12 years. And if you don't come in with the right demeanor, you know what I mean?

You can get lost. So his opportunity came. It didn't come at the time he wanted to because at the time, you know, we were playing in the playoffs and he didn't get to play to the second round and D. Rose was the MVP. Hold on, nigga, why are you saying it like that? Nick, I did my job, nigga.

He did his thing, bro. He did do his thing. I'm just saying, you know, sometimes you can ask for something then it's going to come in a way you may not think. He got hurt, and he stepped in. He had to play the point. Yeah, he held it down, but it was tough. Hey, I ain't going to lie.

Because they year, D. Rose, where he was the youngest MVP. Yeah. Oh, man, he was a monster. But we ended up winning game one. I'm thinking we really had a chance. But when they came here, I don't know. He had another level. That nigga had 45.

I said, Joe Switch. He said, nigga, it's your match. You wanted this. Now, I think I ain't dream about this one. Hey, right. Hey, you got to gauge yourself. You know, you're playing against the MVP, gauged you a little bit. I remember after game three, it was Mother's Day.

Ironically, my mama called me. He said, baby, it's okay. I said, nah, everybody mad at me. She said, why they mad at you? So he had 45, mama. She said, I don't worry about it. He'd do that to everybody. Shout to my mom, man.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, and to ask you, what was it like for you when you first came into the Hawks organization, man? The Hawks organization, uh, man, it didn't, it didn't seem, it didn't seem like the NBA. I'm not going to lie. You know, I had just left Phoenix. I had just left Phoenix. We had won 62 games. Yeah.

And we were the number one seed in the playoffs that year. So coming here, prior to me coming here, they had only won 11 games. Lord. Shit it. They got to put more respect on my dog, Joe. Because y'all won 11 games when you came here. When I came here, y'all was the playoff team. Shout out to my dog.

They're out of a lot of the time. What I'm saying is, nah, they had won 11 games before I got here. When I got here, we only won 29 the first game. We won 29 the first game. I think, I mean, the first year, then the second year, we ended up winning like 40. I almost made the playoffs. And then by the time you got here. Oh, y'all was lit.

Yeah, we had already been through the rough part, you know what I mean? Like, literally, we go in the arena, man, it's like three, four hundred people in there. It did not feel like the NBA. Damn. But what was it like when you left the arena? He a motherfucker. I know it was fun, wasn't it? Shit, I'm trying to think that I was in Minnesota.

We were sad. I had fun, though. The first year, we didn't really hang out a lot, man. It was too depressing, bro. Like, you get in your ass. ass beat a motherfucking night and you think you're gonna go out and party i couldn't do it it just i couldn't do it so it took a little while ah that's why you was who you are so in 2000 by the time you got here you already know what it was you was comfortable at that point oh man they fucked my life up

man they show me what i but listen i know we go get back to you being a professional you are but i'm gonna tell you y'all y'all was some professional go-outers and yeah they went to the club no no no the whole team went to the club so don't worry about it we used to win games and the whole team would go out and shout out to joe he didn't haze me everybody else made me do rookie shit he didn't but he would always invite me to the club and if he went he ain't go every time like me and some of my other team he's went every night we ain't miss a night hey because magic city lucky velvet room go crazy what's the other one uh the far one out either it was far It wasn't nothing like the velvet.

No, that velvet. Velvet from legendary. Compound is legendary. Compound. When I felt crazy, I used to go to the one, what G. EZeezy saying that one song? Where they had the big ass, blue motherfuckers with the big cup. Y'all know, Central Station.

God damn it. Oh, you were ratchet. That's rancet. Yeah. I was out there. Blue flame. Yeah, that was me. Yeah.

Yeah. Joe ain't go to that. Joe, he was up there. I didn't. I didn't haze him. as a rookie because I hated that shit when I was a rookie. You know, they make you wear them pink backpacks.

You know, uh, uh, uh, you have to do all the chores, go get the prophylactics, go get coffee, donuts. I hated all that shit, so I never mess with him about it. No, he ain't do that, man. I respect that.

My boy T. He took out PTSD, man, from that popcorn. Yeah. Did you know about the popcorn? Yeah, man. See, he said all that good shit. shit, then this nigga knew. Hey man, you got to pay your dues,

you come in, they're gonna get you, especially if you don't listen. You know what I ain't listen? You're a little hard-headed at the time, but, you know, you caught on. Hey, you remember, I don't know if you remember, but you remember we had, y'all wanted to, like, crispy cream donuts.

Not you, you ain't really eat that. This nigga, like a machine. This nigga didn't even eat. I don't know what you ate. Chill, chill, chill, chill. But everybody else ate them donuts, and then they didn't eat them for like a month, and I just left them there,

and they turned green. No. And if smooth here, I don't know smooth here or not But he said he opened that motherfucker If they was green, they was molded That nigga said Ah, hell nah You gonna pay for this motherfucker

That's who used to be on his ass Smooth, John Smith used to be on his ass Yeah, God, shout to my man Smooth, though He was on my ass, bro. Who was your vet coming into the league? Who was what? Your vet coming into the league? My vets coming into the league

was Antoine Walker Park Pierce. I was in, I was in, I got drafted by Boston 01. Yeah. And what I did for Jeff is what those dudes did for me. They looked out for me. Anytime we went somewhere or did anything, you know, we did it as a group.

I ain't never had to pull my wallet out. You know what I mean? They always took care of me. So I just passed it on down. You know what happened with you? Hey, but we had some good times. You know, Twon can part in. Shout to Swarm.

You're something else. Yeah. So what happened when you adopted T and my dog during Crawford is, you know, your young boys? because they was outside. What happened? When you adopted them, you took them under your win, they was outside.

Yeah, everywhere. When Jordan Crawford got here, I think that was Teague's second year? Yeah. Every night, man. It's either a comedy show, a concert,

it was something in Atlanta every night, and we was moving. We was moving around, bro. Yeah, shout out to Joe. I mean, I don't like to tell nobody business. He probably ain't got these cars and where it was a long time ago. But he used to have a ghost

right, y'all know Rose Royce that motherfucker was a night but he ain't give a fuck he let you drive his shit me and Jordan hopped in that motherfucker one night Joe you know he was responsible he was a star he was averaging 20 some points he had to be in bed

at the right time me and Jordan to give a fuck so we end up getting this car he's like you y'all got a young fellas you know how he taught he smoothed in a motherfucker y'all got a young fella with me y'all go tear that motherfucker up at the club We like, yeah, we didn't put our $1,500 together to get a section. We take his motherfucking car.

We ain't realized it's who we got to the club. This nigga got two all over this motherfucker. It's two on the rims, two in the head seat. Too where we pull up smooth than a motherfucker. A nigga at the door said, me, that's Joe car. Trying to stun. Yeah, I said, they park this motherfucker and shut up. That one fuck was clean, though.

It was clean. Hey, man, you got to let them have some fun sometime, man. You know, as vets, it's imperative that we look out for the rookies, make sure they, you know, they experience some good times. No, it's a fact. Definitely did. Hey, look, that man probably didn't miss nothing. Anything that were going on, he was out.

Come on, man. I ain't try to call nobody out, but my teammates went out. If you didn't go, somebody else was. I was out that motherfucker. Boy, ATL, they probably tired of me. Nicar, Compound, I didn't miss a Saturday. It got so bad, man. You remember, we played in Charlotte about a 45-minute flight.

I went to Compound after the argument. I ain't played, so I wasn't tired. I wasn't tired. I was dead. And till they threw it a little last in there against D. Roe. Yeah. I'm going to let you have a moment again, but I remember we were about to play, we was about to play D.Rose

and then, Kurt, he heard his leg. last game of that series. In the whole year, I've been talking about, man, I'm better than this dude. I'm better than that dude. I should be playing ball. Joe's like, man, man, you keep asking for shit, man. That motherfucker going to come, man, man, man.

And then next thing, you know the dick get hurt. You know how, like, you're ready for the moment, but you really ain't ready. The niggins said, Chuck Kurt, get hurt, coached. We're going to go with you, T. I said, damn, for real. That nigga Joe said,

mine. It's time, nigga You got the MVP I said So I'm ready, man He said, yeah I ain't nigga It walked out

Shout to my man Joe Now good times There's a hawkish I want to ask You know what I'm saying You went to Brooklyn Nets You know what I'm saying Free Agency

You got to play with My dog Hold on 520 booth I didn't go to I didn't go to We're not free agency Sorry you got traded I didn't go to Brooklyn

Free Agency I got traded We got traded Right when Danny Ferry took over for the Holt I was the first person who he traded He traded me to He traded me to Brooklyn

And you know the rest is history You know what I got a bone He didn't like none of you niggas Hold on, no he ain't like no niggas He couldn't stand this nigga right here He told me, pull your fucking pants up I pulled them motherfuck down to my ankle You know the weirdest part about that is

I used to help because All the guys who I hung out with in the summer You know we played they played ball whether it was overseas or whatnot. So when they came over to the States in the summer, I would get them a spot on the roster, on the Summer League, on Atlanta Hawk's Summer League team. So I got one of my homeboys on the Summer League team,

even though I just got traded. I'm still coming to the arena every day for practice. And I see Danny Ferry every day. That man never spoke to me, never said nothing to me. He never looked my way. And I, hey, look, I still, I, I like that energy. That was probably the weirdest thing Because I still had a great

A great vibe with the coaches But everybody was on pins and needle When he took over Because they already knew that at some point You know, he was getting everybody about him You know, I ain't gonna lie You know I was mad at you, bro For about a year

You got to trade to Brooklyn He was like This is my first year gonna start My second year You were like He was like man I finally get to play with a great point guard I said,

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Yeah. I need that to get your little boost, you know what I mean? Nah, facts, fat. But, hey, what about that game? We played y'all in London. When I killed? Huh? You're talking when I was killing?

We played y'all in London. You don't remember when the Brooklyn Nets played y'all in London? Would I have 26? Nah. He owned that, Joe. He on that, Joe. Humbly me, Gatto. You know we were running up.

I had 30 at the half I had 30 at the half Oh no no you're cold We didn't ever say you're gonna call I'm just saying you don't remember that Joe you good as fuck You're supposed to be You're probably gonna be in a hall of fan

If you ain't in a hall of fan They're bullshit When I went to Brooklyn We probably didn't beat y'all too many times But there was one Yeah You had a good guy and shit Who was Garry I think Kyle might have been Garry

Nah That's my man That's my man Don't put those one on Kyle Hey, look, you know a funny story. I played against a... When? That game he had 30.

Who he did? What Jeff had? What? Hey down the beach. Luis. If you're funny... If you don't have... I think of security.

Hey, hey, appreciate that, Brian. Hey, police, get that, Nick, and take his ass out of there. I had 12, niggins. Out of the game. That's funny to the both.

That was funny as fuck. I like you, thing. Matter of fact, say after Shack, I got to talk to you, Nick. Joe, you say you had a story?

You said you had a story about Kyle Corpard? Oh, I played, when we was 18 playing A&U, I played against him in a national championship for the nationals, AAU Nationals, championship game.

Who did you play for AAU? I played for the Arkansas Hawks. Oh, they're legendary. Yeah, we played against, I don't remember the name of their team, but I know we played against them in the championship game. Cal been nice for a minute. Yeah, Arkansas Hawks for us is a legendary team because Mike Conley, Jr., he grew up playing for Arkansas.

Yeah, yeah. Because his dad went to Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of Arkansas, y'all got a good coach this year. I'm excited for your team, man. Y'all got Kalapir. You had him last year.

It was the first star, but now you got a whip over there. Yeah, we got some talent. Are you helping recruit, though? Huh? Are you helping recruit? Hey, hell, no. Respect.

We got, hello, there you go. We got some great recruits, but, you know, that they don't necessarily lead to championships, You got to get them to buy-in, so I think that's going to be the hardest thing. But having Coach Cal, you know, we're going to have talent. That's a fact.

You know what I mean? So that's all we can ask for at this point. That's a fact. I want to ask you this question. You got a legendary highlight one of the craziest crossovers against Paul Pierce. Please talk us through that moment, please. Please, because he'll be and your teammates.

So I know y'all address that at some point. Like I tell y'all, Paul Pierce, Paul Pierce was my vet. Oh, gee. Bro. Dude, he gave me hair every day as a rookie. Mind you, Boston, they weren't a great team, you know, prior to us. And by time we got this, kind of like by time you got the Atlanta,

who was a playoff team, but they hadn't made the playoffs since they had Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker. So they had three first round picks, 10, 11, and, like, 22. So I had two other guys with me who were rookies. And Paul Pierce used to, like, he used to haze us every day, bro. But he was probably the most prolific score at that time. Like, I think he led the league in scoring throughout that whole season. I know he finished probably top three at like 30, 29, 30 a game.

Man, listen, listen. I'm saying he had to be in 01, 01, 102. I guarantee he was at least top three, top four, and scoring. And, like. Nigger, tell you. They tell you. They tell us. Listen to the story.

So listen, with all that, I never forgot that how he used to go at us and mess with us all the time. So to get that little get back at him. You bring it up to him now. He gets sensitive about that. I can't wait to see his head. We play that crossover them there once a more. That nigga touched the floor and start reaching for marbles and dominole and shit. Nah, and you had a crazy highlight.

So before I got drafted to the Hawks, you hit D-Way. and you played the Miami Heat, y'all was balling and stuff, and then you played the Boston Celtics in a series where y'all went game seven and you hit a step back. I don't know who was called. Was it Ray Allen? It was Paul again? Damn.

Which one? You hit the deep step back three. Y'all both damn their fell in you? I think it was on Posey. Yeah, that's when I started watching the hog. I used to play with y'all on 2K. And I was like, yeah, that nigga Joe different. I ain't realized you was 6'8.

I thought you'd like 6'4. So that was my. third year here. That's the first time we made the playoffs. What was that like? Because the atmosphere in the playoffs when the Hawks was good. It's crazy. I want to know what it was like for y'all to be in the playoff for the first time. What was that atmosphere like? It was us being in the playoffs for the first time that year was pretty much everything I envisioned coming here, meaning in Boston, they ain't going to lie. We weren't even competing. They was thrashing them. So like the first two games, like, man, they're going to sweep them boys.

They ain't going to be nothing. Man, it came to Atlanta. I've never seen Atlanta is so crumb, like any and every celebrity who was on the front road from Ti to JD, ludicrous, all of them dudes, man, they were showing us love and support. And honestly, it was like the six, the six man that we needed because they kept giving us hope, energy. And anytime Boston made a run, it was like, they couldn't withstand it here in Atlanta. Like, I don't care what it was. They didn't win a game here.

Yeah. And they didn't. So we took them seven. Cleveland with LeBron took them seven. Then they won the championship in six. less. Yeah. Yeah, so we had a decent run, we had a decent run in. Yeah, I think

I always say to these guys, like our team that we had my rookie year, even my second year, we was just ahead of our time. Like, how Wood played, we switched everything. Because you had Al at the 5, you got Josh at the 4. They neither one, well, they both probably

power 4s, which would be great in today's game. Yep. But Al wasn't shooting 3s like he's shooting out. No, not now. You know what I mean? But just think about you had that team right now like with Al Horford the way we played like you was a you was a one through four really

but you was playing the three you had Bibb at the one and then Marvin and then you still had Jamal Crawford as a six man I'm like if we had that team in today's basketball the Atlanta Hawks won the championship bro oh yeah damn

we'd be a we for short hey no no no I love y'all Boy In today's game Joe I love you to death But that thing over there I love him to death

I love him to death Y'all ain't winning no championship Yeah I ain't winning And I'm gonna let y'all get y'all shit out Because y'all having a moment Big bro A championship is crazy

You sure? You sure, bro? I'm saying though like Let's keep it real And I don't mean to fuck up The big bro little bro moment but that team Joe you was a mom

when I first seen you I thought she was AI nigga I thought she was the first AI I told him I said bro this is the biggest two guard I ever seen in my life chest busting out of the jersey pause

respect but I swear to God bro I don't know if y'all could beat that Oklahoma City Thunder team right now bro why not be a good one

why not I mean if y'all made to the finals I give y'all one or two games. I mean, the pace took them to seven. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. And y'all had some killers, bro. Y'all was Dakoters.

But I swear to God, that would have been the today's game. I can't just sit up here and let you say, y'all going to win a championship. Now, say y'all be a two, three, four, five, C, cool. But a shit, y'all, y'all disrespecting today's game. I hate that nigga, bitch that's my

nigga to deal but a championship But your ass Why are you always trying to humble me In my moments I'm not trying to humble you But you just said

The championship's so easy Bro, the NBA ain't sweet Well, god damn Have you seen Joe play 47, 8, 9000? No, Joe's holl back in Joe couldn't nobody fuck with Joe back in the day

He up there He up there That's the problem No, I'm on, that's resolved Joe Get you a shot And Joe was going to guard SGA

It might be a long night Joe I ain't on time. Wait a little night. It's going to be a long night. It's been long night. Listen, y'all was going to have to cancel each other. No, y'all, I'm bullshit, though.

Y'all team was fine. It would have been a long night for a lot of people. I wouldn't guard them shit. I want to ask you, though, how was it going from, like, that Phoenix team and stepping into that leadership role with the Hawks? Was that like a big transition for you or was it easy for you? No, it was a huge transition for me because I'm just a, chill laid back guy. I ain't no raw, right

dude. I ain't gonna be out here you know, trying to hype you up this and the third. I'm a guy who kind of just leads by example. So you know, we're professionals at the end of the day. We expect everybody to come ready to play, you know what? Yeah. But you're, it was

a, uh... That was a championship to you. What? That Phoenix team. Yeah. We only had one year together, bro. One year. You give us three years together. We at least get one. No, that's a fair. That's a... And I want to ask you this. A lot of people discredit, Steve, Nash say he didn't deserve two MVP's, but how good was he playing with a player like that?

Man, uh, uh, Nash was, he was, he was great, bro, but he was great because he understood the guys who was surrounded around him. You know, you got a Marri Stademar who was, damn man child, you know what mean, since he came into the league. Like, he won rookie over Yaliyah, of the year over Yalmi. Facts. Then you got a perennial all-star and Sean Marion who, you ain't got to run no people. plays for, and he's going to get 20 and 10 every night. And then you got Quentin Richardson who came over from the Clippers who led the league in three-point makes that year.

Man. I didn't even know this need to shoot threes. Because when we should play the Clippers in Q, they were running a turn three. It's just a poster play every time. So I didn't even know he could shoot the way he could shoot. Yeah. And I end up leading the league in free throw percentage at 48%,

49% from 3. and Nash took the back seat to be honest with you because he could have averaged 25 easily but he settled for 16 points and 13 assists you know what I mean so and I think yeah he won MVP with that we were the best team in the league

that's Kobe NBC for shit Joe said it was here it was Steve 9 VP he knew he won wasn't that they tried to save was Kobe MVP. I said Steve Nash won the shit. Hey man, I think when you win, obviously

everybody gets rewarded, right? That's a fact. Considering the fact when he came up, we weren't even a playoff team the year before. Yeah, fat is. And then we end up making to the Western Conference final. That's the MVP word. Against the Dallas series. The series I got hurt against Dallas? Yeah. And that man putting up 43, 60.

13, 37, 15, like, crazy. So basically what I'm saying. People forget that, don't it? Yeah, they do forget that. Yeah, I forget that. But you know he wanted to get back anyway because Dallas didn't want to resign him. So, you know, they was going to get the best.

He was on that. But he was a beast, bro. My boy, be here and double cup. You good over there, brother? Hey, boy, this motherfucker's tequila kicking my head. I ain't a lot. I fuck with you. Well, Joe, take a toast

Hey, PNC, I think we need A way to be here, though, man, you guys all over the flight back here That nigga Joe drinking water He just toast for a song Ain't pump faking? What? Y'all liked that song? Let me tell y'all's story about that song

That nigga right there That's how I met him Because he said he had crittin' No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You wasn't something crazy. He tried to get me locked up Police-ass nigga Charleston white-ass d'ning, 6-9-ass-diggie.

God damn. Damn, why you ain't say that? The whole scary-ha-n-d-diggie, yeah. Scary-ha-d-d-d-diggie! Scary-ha-n-n-d-d-ha-d-ha-ha-ha. You're all that. Oh, big, that d'nick is scared. You bogus his head over, man.

Hey, listen, man, make some noise for I-S-O-Jol, pulling up, man, for the live show in the A. Yes, sir. Big dog, we appreciate you, man. long time coming man we got to do it again man make some motherfucking noise roscow dash in the building one time for the one time sir yes sir big doll we appreciate you slide on tonight how you feeling brother thanks for having me man I love this shit bro I love this podcast so I'm happy to be up here I appreciate y'all too I appreciate you

baby you got real fans knee I appreciate that right yeah man it's shit crazy bro we celebrate you all the time I appreciate oh hold on the fuck up now Nick you line Hold on, I'm going to tell you why I celebrate it. And I'm going to tell you. He tried to clown us. No, hold on, I did. But let me tell you how big, this is a hate-man snick. Oh, me, I'm me.

So for you to be so influential that you made this nigga get a Mohawk. But you was the biggest. I ain't going to mind. When I pulled him to a letter, I was like, damn, this shit horrible. It's so spire. I was like, he got the mohaw. People fucking with. I'm about to get a mohaw.

And this nigga roast me every day for that shit. That's crazy, hand. Yeah, because I don't, the reason why, and I know, but, bro, I only rusted him because he got the blonde tips in this shit.

When he put the blind in this air, I said, I don't know. I'm going to win the NBA. What are we doing, Phil? I put the west out of that, bro, I ain't had no blind tips, you know.

No, but, bro, I just want to say thank you so much, bro. You do a message, bro. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Atlanta, that was the vibe. So, like, even to see, like, Metro kind of bring that vibe back a little bit, that was a vibe.

But, like, them songs, like, show out all that. Whoa. Then you had me dancing in the club, bro. Did you know what you had back then? No, I think we was just trying to, like, do something fun. For me, I grew up as a student of the game. Like, I used to go to earwax and shit like that, go get records and CDs and read the booklet. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, I was really a student of what's going on and not just shit from Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? like everything, whether it's de-blocking them, DMX, whoever, like, Andre 3,000, all of them. Like, so when I got my opportunity, it was about just pouring that back into where what made me fall in love with music. You know what I'm saying? So same thing with the Metro. I think it's just about making music fun again, literally. What was that like when, like, how we just play Turn Up and, like, everybody still get hype for that. You know what I mean? That's a vibe. What's that like for you?

I just love, I'm a person that's built out reciprocity, bro, to be honest. So anytime that you can give your all or put your effort and energy into something and get something back the same way, that's love. You know what I mean? Bro, you literally, literally one of the biggest. Like, who put you in the booth? Like, did you just...

Man, I've been doing this shit since we had boomboxes with the little cassette tape and we were stuffing paper on the side to wrap over the karaoke machine. Damn, whoever that is old as fuck. Because y'all was emotional as fuck. She said, nigga, I'm 30. No, for real.

It's Emmy, bro. I come from a music family. My mom played the clarinet and some woodwind shit or whatever. My brother made beats. So it was like kind of just in me. I was around music all the time. I'm like, man, I'm going to rap.

I'm in there. Yeah, because you definitely, you make timeless fucking music, though. Are you working on anything new right now? Yeah, we're coming off of the Metro thing. It's still a futuristic summer right now, so we're shooting all the videos for that. Just continuing to just pour fun back into the community.

man and just doing stuff together, bringing it together. I feel like, honestly, being from Atlanta, just being a student in the game, I feel like we've always been a place of camaraderie. That's why people want to come and be a part of what we got going on, whether that's art, whether that's theater, whether it's music, whatever it is. So for me right now, it's just about continuing to build on that.

There's a lot of people who didn't bridge those gaps. So now that I'm in a space coming in at 19 years old to now being 35, like, I'm the bridge now. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just going to try to keep putting in what needs to be there. You know what I mean? So. No, for sure.

Now, I got an ass. Man, what? We ain't old neither. Somebody said that in the front. We ain't, oh, I ain't accepting that shit. Yeah. What? What made you get the Mohawk dash?

Tell me about the Mohawk journey. Because he just got it off the strength. Yeah. He just went to the barbershop, said, give me the number 13. No. That's what Dan's got. Dan's got the 13, so I want to know from that. Like I said, R.C.

Get that bullfug right there. Hey, that's crazy. Where the Mohawk come? from the style. Honestly, I always had like hair and shit. And I think I cut my hair when I was like 17. I was in high school. And then I started growing it back. And I think I cut my own first Mohawk. And then I was inspired by like young LA and that type of stuff. Like just having the designs in there. I fought with Leland. Leland is him. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to Leland for that. But yeah, I cut my own first mohawk. Then I just started going. I was like,

man, I can't keep doing this because this ain't really my speed trying to be in the mirror doing my own shit. And so I went to go fuck with Barbershop Bill over Campbell and Wesley Chapel. And then from there I ran in the Bobby's world and it was history from there. Oh, okay. Cool. Because I know that, I know people probably was adding you like a motherfucker when he said that shit. 100%, yeah. Because I was mad. I ain't going to lie. I said, nigga, you got me fucked up.

He was mad because he couldn't get on it. He couldn't do that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what it is. He'll wait before. His growth process was a little different at that time pool. Bruce Perry. That was crazy. Whoa.

You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. The process? I'm going to mute my mic. That's crazy. I don't deserve this thing. It's a bad weekend for that kind of shit.

Whoa. Shout to the city. Respect. My bad game. Hey, y'all, Wiley. I want to ask you about no hands. How did that record come about? Man, I think me and Waka was doing,

we was always, like, around each other. We used to go to Marriachi Mondays, Belushi up in Gwinnett. We used to, like, move around and just do shit together. So I think we was coming off the road And I went to password Literally to go, I think we was going to For what Gucci when he first got out

One of them times And Waka was in the B rooms It was like super fluttered in the A room So I'm like, let me go find out something else to do Come I'm not fin of you know what I mean And drummer boy happened to be in there With Waka and we was actually talking about doing something else Like some other type of music

But I looked at Waka I said bro The ladies love you bro And I don't know why but they love you though So we're gonna make a song for them Like you know what I'm saying Like you do a record for them They gonna love you for the rest of your life And I was like, I got the hook, bro.

Just write the verse. Waleigh happened to walk in. He was, like, standing off to the side somewhere and just jotting on that Blackberry and shit. And I was like, Risi had came in. Shout out to Risi, too. She helped put that together. She was like, Valet got something you want to put.

I said, man, this Wollet. Put the thing on a dude. Tell me going to go in the booth. And the rest was history, bro. Came out the next day on More About Nothing, I think, or something like that. And it was up from there. Did you know that was a hit when you? I knew it immediately.

Yeah, I knew it immediately. I don't know if they knew it. I knew that shit, though. Hey, it's crazy. I know Joe, before you got here, Joe was like, I know we're going to play that in no hands. But he didn't even know he was coming because one day we went to a club. My fault, Joe, I don't know if you're still here or not.

We went to a club. We was the first motherfuckers in the club. Literally, it was us. It was a couple girls. Listen, and we played this song 20 times in a row. That's crazy. It was us. And we got hype every time.

That's fine. Like, we heard it for the first time. My fault, Joe. I think music's supposed to do that for you, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, even before I knew how to make music, bro, with songs that made me feel like that, no matter what type of day I was having.

So I just wanted to have something like back to that stuff. I wanted some, I wanted my own version of that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. You got that. He got that for a show. I don't know if that's your family owner. I mean, yeah, yeah.

I mean, yeah. He's going crazy. What you want to hear? Ooh, she's fuck with you Fuck it Hey, hey, Pimp, drop that no hands then, fuck

Drop that no hands Now, play that show out Every time I go out Yeah, play that show up Pimp, play that show album That ain't what he did In that song, nigga Yeah, yeah, yeah

What's up, Pepsi? Salo my guy Shout out to DJ Pimsy setting the vibes. Drawing big dog, We appreciate your sliding on us tonight. How are you feeling? How are you living, brother?

I'm living good, man. Thanks for having me, man. Congratulations, y'all. Going on tour, the 520 podcast, doing big things. Come on. Thank you, thank you. Nap Town in the building. You know, it's cool.

Right on. Oh, man, I'll boost mobile guest DJ Drama in the building. Listen, all of us, man, we all have enjoyed your music. Everybody in the crowd. Thank you. I want to ask, you're going to put you on a high seat. What's one of your favorite mix tapes you ever made that people may not know this one of your favorites? One of my favorites that I made that people may not know?

Yeah. What y'all think? Y'all saying the obvious ones, though, like, we know Travedad. Oh, yeah. You're talking about the ones that people may not know. Yeah. Yeah. NapTown's finest.

I'm going to probably say, you know, there's always, that's a good one. Shot the G. Fariko. Yo, Gotti, I told you so. We can be here for days, you know what I'm saying? Talk that shit, bro. I'm gonna definitely say, Crenshaw, rest of peace, my brother, Nip, King Nip, that's one of them, for show.

Me and Chris Brown did it in my zone back in, oh, eight, oh, nine. That's a fucking classic. Definitely a classic. The burprent was one of them ones. The movie was a classic. That's the greatest Gucci tape Jeremiah late nights

Jeremiah late nights is a good one I don't want to cut you off Listen you got too many Relax On some NapTown shit We got to say I know Goose ACL that's y'all But in that, the movie

Yeah movie was I could see that That's the best Gucci tape ever Bro That might be one of the They said play that photo shoot pimpsie Oh They said they're trying to act crazy

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the tape had like it didn't really have a buzz at first you know what I'm saying when we first dropped it I don't remember what was going on but to a point where I couldn't really like fill it fill it and then I was going out of town I was going to places like Pittsburgh the Nap Town and I would ask what niggas is listening to and there's like,

nigga all we're playing is that Gucci the movie I'm like oh that shit is going and that shit was turning into a classic right under my eyes so shout to go out no facts bro

good times how did you get into the game though I want to ask how you got into the game but DJing like did you start DJing in the clubs uh oh

what's uh what's uh well What happened? Hold on. I can't what you say? Now, y'all know that nigger used to bugs and shit in this house. Y'all know he comes from humble beginnings.

He had, that's trauma. So don't pay attention to see him trying to catch bugs and roaches and rats. That's trauma. We hear what drama today. Don't pay it this. Oh, my house big, nigger. I got nice shit. Respect.

I'm a phone. Respect. We got raid. We got raid. Man, shut the. No, I want to ask how you got into this, like, DJ in space. Like, who was the question? You know, I'm originally from Philly.

Yeah. And when I was growing up, I went to go see the movie Juice. And I was pretty much inspired by Omar Epps' character in the movie. That was, like, my first time, like, seeing a DJ on a big screen, you know what I'm saying? And, like, you know, I was always in the music. I didn't feel like I could really, really rap. I talked the best shit ever in life. I just can't make that shit wrong.

So, you know, so I decided to get in the DJM. I convinced my grandma to buy me a turntable. She bought me a turntable. I got a turntable in a mixer. This is old school shit, y'all, before the computer. And, you know, I had like a crater record when I was in high school. My sister took me to New York. I bought my first mixtape.

It was like an old school mixtape. and then I was just fascinated by mixtape DJs ever since. Like, you know, the mixtape DJ for me, like, you know, when it comes to DJ and there's, there's, like, different forms, there's, like, club DJs, there's radio DJs, there's show DJs, and, you know, and my time when I was coming up, it was mixtape DJs. So to me, the mixtape DJ always felt like the biggest, you know what I'm saying? Because they were, like, their own artist, they had their own product, you know what I'm saying? I would go places, I would hear DJ Clue coming out of cars and shit like that.

And I was like, that was a dream of a goal of mine. Like, you know, I want to hear my shit playing out of somebody's car. So I moved to Atlanta. I went to Clark Atlanta University. I met my, shout to the CAU, shot to the AUC in a building. I met my business partners, my best friends then, Lake Show, Don Cannon and DJ Sense. And, you know, we befriended each other. We started the affiliates.

And, you know, short story long or long story short, I created gangster girls in like 2000 maybe around that time. I was introduced to T.I. by his manager, Jason Jeter. Tip came to my crib. I used to live in a fourth ward. And Coach K used to live around the corner from me. Yeah, town. And shout to Coach K. And, you know, Tip came through for the first time.

He was the first person to ever call me off of getting my number off of the back of a mixtape. He had just got his deal. And young T.I. comes through the crib. And he spits his freestyle. And at the end of it, he says, like, he's the king of the South. And when he left, I told my man, DJ, since, like, yo, this little nick is crazy. He just said he's the fucking. King of the South, like, the fuck is going on.

Next thing you know, me and Tip, I got befriended by Ground Hustle. Coach told me he had this new artist he was working with named Young GZ. GZ and Coach were the first people to ever pay me for a mixtape. They gave me $1,000 to do Streets is watching. And the rest is history. No, that's hard, bro. Streets is watching when I first heard you. But the reason I fell in love how you did mixtap was trap or die.

For sure. And when I first heard Trapa die, like, shit, I was trying to trap or die. I ain't never been a street nigga, but I was trying. I said, if anybody got some weed, I'm ready to sell them motherfuckers. Thank you. Thank you, Bobby. What's up, Bobby? How you doing?

We got to get these niggas some ice packs. They're out of pocket. There's a pocket. What was y'all listening to? Like, what makesets were y'all listening to in the locker rooms and their practice? and stuff like that. I wanted to. Mix tapes, bro.

We listen to dedication. We listen to, you know, we listened to, I was a Trapperda. I played Trapper Dye's still to this day. Like, I'm a Jeezie. Was that how you heard about Jeezie through Trappadaa? What?

And then, like, that snowfall, like, when that intro, I said, oh, they're trying to take me back. Lord, I was so hype. Everybody know, they know I listen to GZ all day.

So I listened to anything ATL. Like, when I came here, I was like a dollar. So, like, future, all them, like, everybody, Atlanta. It's just what I listen to. Yeah, no, we've all been adopted by the city anyway. I got to take it back because I know this is a lot of people favorite here, but the first time I heard that dedication too, like I was hit the dedication one for

show. When I heard dedication two for the first time, fuck my life up, dog. Yeah. I mean, I feel like Travody and dedication, like, really changed my life. You know, Trabidah was a lot of first for me. Again, I was the first time I, like, you know, anybody had ever, like, really gave me money to do a mixtape. You know, that's kind of where I feel like I found my personality, too. I was talking shit before that on, like, earlier Gangster Girls.

Like, before Gangster Girls was how y'all know it today, it was like, it was like a compilation of the hottest songs in the street. so it was kind of similar to every other mixtape, but I had always wanted to make it where it was like its own brand, where, like, you know, that was the only place you could get that music. So when I linked up with Tip and with Gizi, you know, they gave me an opportunity to do that. And, you know, when we did Trappodai, we did a DVD. That was the first time that had been done.

And so people found out what I looked like. Like, because of my voice is kind of deep, you know, a lot of people thought I was like dark skin and like this big dude. You know what I'm saying? I'm people. Right. So everybody was like, who's this white guy saying?

They go all over the songs when the DVD came out. And then, you know, with dedication, you know, Wayne was like really coming into his own at that point when we did the first one. He had kind of,

he was doing the Carter albums, but like dedication and Trabidda were tapes that, you know, because they were mixed tapes and they were in the streets, you know, They went a lot of different places. So, you know, a lot of people heard those guys through those tapes.

Like, they wasn't playing G-ZZ on Hot 97 in New York at first, but niggas in New York was listening to the mixtapes, you know what I'm saying? So they heard it. You know, they were hearing weighing through dedication. So, you know, a lot of with gangster girls, like, I can look back on through history and say, like, it was very pivotal in helping, you know, southern hip-hop culture reach the masses and go worldwide the way it did. That's a fact.

I want to ask, what's the gangster grills that almost happened but didn't happen? Oh, man. Which one? Talk about the Rico. Whoa.

Shit. Y'all niggas is federal tonight. We're having a good time. She got dark. Get that d'nigua drink. Security. Get that nigga out of here. What's that word in a letter, nigga?

You know better. I don't remember that rapper. I don't remember that rapper. I don't remember the. I don't remember that rapper. Damn, what was the question? Oh, the ones that almost happened. Travis Scott.

Hmm. What is it? Days after rodeo. I was going to be a gangster grills. Damn. Then Kanye told him, no, I don't do that. Damn.

Yay. Yeah, you hate it? Yeah. I don't think he was hit. I mean, it was kind of hate him, but. Yeah. You know, sometimes people just like, you know, for whatever reason, they want to go in a different direction. I am mad at them.

We did a future. We did a tape. We did, we did one. It's actually called the movie. Yeah. That's where Chosen One came from. Came from. That's a fan.

Me and Future got a classic. No, that's a fact. And I'll tap it. You just don't know. Who, chosen one? That's the best rapper ever to do it right during. Shout the future. Go.

They shouldn't have told me that. That tape don't get talked about enough. That was a good tape. Michelle. I was going to ask y'all who should I do a tape with that I haven't done a tape with? Who I think?

Gunna. That's a good one. Lido and Trit. I ain't mad at that one. Lido and Trit. Who? Kodat. Who shite?

all right Bunby all right I did one me and Bunby did one but we could do another one but yeah

I did one with fun that's a lot a lot of good ones I'm hearing shout out to y'all shout to y'all I want to ask

you always had an offer talent what's it like back to back years you're going on tour whiz you're bringing out oozy you bring out

Jack Harlow being the executive you know what's a piece of stuff together coming from a DJ perspective what's that like You know, it's crazy because I feel like it was, you know, it's progression, it's evolution.

It's really being like, you know, loving the culture, like, and wanting to continue to put on for hip hop and leaving a legacy behind, you know, interestingly enough. Like, we started the label generation now in 2014, and around that time, I started to notice that. that, you know, the mixtape ground was kind of slowing down and the mixtape game wasn't the same stream and was, you know, was being introduced. And, you know, I just wasn't doing as many tapes. I had just built the studio in Atlanta called Mean Street Studios. And through that studio, you know, me, Me Lake Show and Don Cannon,

when we started Generation Now, you know, Uzi was the first artist that we signed. and we had kind of missed out on a couple artists that we were interested in signing and at the time Uzi came along and you know Cannon brought Uzi to the table and we was like yo we don't want to miss any more artists

so I was working at Atlantic and we took Uzi to Atlantic through a generation now and you know becoming an executive like being an R I got my NR job because I was putting out my own albums I was making my own records and people believed in me because of the success I was having so I went on to becoming the A&R

and I had to find my footing at first like when I first got in a building you know they were putting me with artists that they had already had signed and that really wasn't my forte or like how my style of A&Ring was and you know it was more about discovering new talent which I had been doing for years already

through the mixtapes you know so when we brought Uzi to the table a lot of people didn't believe in it like you know they didn't see the vision especially like this kid with purple hair from philly from a city where like you know at the time it had been known for real spitters and and always has been like you know meek and state prop and seagull and stuff like that so uzi was you know something um something like kind of kind of new at the time you know i remember having to tell people like people like you know what type of artist is you

and i'd be like you know he's like he's like what what asap rocky is to philly you know what i'm saying that was the only way I could describe him at the time and you know a lot of Uzi's success also came here in Atlanta because we were here in Atlanta you know um he moved here he he met thug here we took him on tour with whiz and you know I basically like almost created this like this formula of us breaking artists so after you know worked with Uzi and we signed Jack we kind of ran through the same routine like he moved here we we introduced him to everybody at the studio you know I took him on tour and, you know, what he made was popping and the rest of his history.

No, that's the fact. What's more fun, DJing in the club or making the music that you play in the club? What's more fun DJing in the club and making the music? I like both of them. You know, the club, like being on stage is, you know, I guess it'd be comparable to say, like, you know, being on the court, like, it's performing, you know what I'm saying?

So, you know, I love to be in front of, whether it's, you know, 200, 2,000, 20,000, like, doing what I do best. But, you know, being in the studio is still, it's that creative size. So, you know, that's where I can kind of go on my zone and, you know, work with the music and, you know, create the music for people to hear. So they're both very invigorating in a lot of different ways. Like, they go hand-to-hand. Joe?

How was that tour, man, with Gizi going on this orchestra tour? Man, did anybody come to that tour? Did anybody get an opportunity? Shout to y'all. I appreciate y'all. I caught you in Orlando. Yeah, absolutely. You know, you was in the building. If you haven't got a chance to see the tour, we're doing a residency in Vegas at the end of the month and the October.

We have two dates then, and then two dates in December, a masquerade ball, and then Nutcrackerackeray ball and then Nutcracker during the holidays. So, you know. Y'all challengers. Sorry, I'm talking about our audience isn't mature. Yeah, watch that thing in the front, man. Yeah, they challenge us. He'd be watching everything.

But, you know, that tour was like... Is that different? Like... Yeah, it was different because, like, you know, it's 20 years later, it's celebrating Thug Motivation. You know, an album that, you know, changed a lot.

It changed Jeezy's life. It changed my life. It changed everybody. It changed so much shit. Like, there's not a lot of albums and hip hop like that, like Doug Motivation, that 20 years later, still bang the way that shit bang. Like, you can put that shit on the club right now at 12, 30, 1 o'clock.

Would you say play? You know what I'm saying? Did you say that? That's just going to go crazy like it was 2005. Oh. That's a fun. Come on, mom. Hey, listen.

Jeez-Z. You do get your mom right. Like, what? Did you say play, get your mom? And everybody's going to sing a word for word like it was 2005. Now, what you're on? studio making this together? Yeah, it was that

Passwork. Made that whole album at Pass. That's a legendary studio, by the way. Yeah, for sure. Shout to Patchwork. You know, what's crazy is to watch what's crazy as to Hold on, drone, drone.

Shout out, Uncle Goosey. My brother's name is Uncle Gucci. Uncle Gucci. Uncle Gucci. That's my brother, and they call him Uncle, what? Yeah, Uncle Gucci. Don't ask why.

I ain't going to ask you why they call him that, though. No, how was that, though, in the studio working with Gizi on that album? It's always the time. I mean, GZ works pretty, how would I describe it? Productively, I guess, to say. I mean, you know, he, like this most recent mixtape we just did, still snowing. He did that shit in, like, two weeks. Damn.

Like, you know, he'll go in, get in the zone and bang it out. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, to think about, like, Trappadine Thug motivation, like. Oh, pause? What do he say? What I say? What I say? No, that's not a bang it out.

It's not a pause. They're reaching. They reach it. It's not a pause. You don't reach him with that one. That's not a pause. I didn't say, like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going for it.

worry about them. I'm not going for that one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're out of pocket. But, you know, like, even, like, back to the toll, like, you know, it was a suit and tie affair, you know, it's people in the building that, you know, grew up listening to Jeezy at different points in their lives and, you know, went from whether it was elementary school

or, you know, high school, college, and hustling or, you know, getting your degree or whatever, you know, now the doctors, lawyers, you know, nurses, flight attendants, you know what, doing their thing, getting money. So it's like, you know, it reminds you of a time of your life. And it's like, you know, it's no different than if you think about it like a Frank Sinatra or the OJs or something. It's just fucking trap music.

And, you know, we had a time in life, you know, listening to it 20 years later. We're going to be listening to it 40 years later and, you know, God willing, 60 years later. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, to watch the way people react. react to that music and just the feeling that it gives them, it's like, it's special. It's not a lot of artists that can do that with an album that what GZ is able to do with the motivation. No, that's a fact.

I want to ask you this. Everybody talks about the mixtape you made, obviously legendary, but you know made some fire albums, too. Is there a difference between making the mixtape and making the album? Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely a difference. Specifically for me, personally, because, you know, I'm more like a conductor than, you know, a typical artist like so when I'm when I'm doing my mix tapes you know what people know know me for

my mix tapes it's normally one individual artist and you know I approached the album from a different standpoint like trying to put together collaborations that people may not have haven't have seen before you know just just make it more it's it's about making a cohesive body at work that's with either form of them but um you know me and um my team generation now like you know we'll put in more of the work to get those albums done definitely a lot more clearances, paperwork, and

shit like that that has to get done on my side so the business is a lot different per se is, you know, when I work on a mix tape I'm normally almost coming in like an artist so it's like a one-off type thing situation. For sure. I know we got to get out of here with PMC. I know you got a couple slaps off that album that people need

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