Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Jordan Crawford on dunking on LeBron James, getting lost in Joe Johnson’s house

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

We're back with Season 2, Episode 7 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Jordan Crawford to tell stories about his playing days. Crawford talks about getting a scholarship to play ...at Indiana even though he didn’t play high school basketball, what it was like dunking on LeBron James, getting drafted and playing for the Atlanta Hawks with Jeff Teague, and many more of his best stories about playing in the NBA. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Be hearing you. Everyday struggle, but it's all good. We on that? Nah, we ain't on that. You said that was your lane everyday. I know, but why you say everyday struggle?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Check your pockets. Check your pockets. Nigga ain't really know you and you walked in. He was like, what you on? So. Yeah, nigga was a little confused. Like, you work here? Nigga security guard walked in first.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, I'm glad. Had people to see. He like, hold on, nigga, I'm like, what's this? That's what Johnny did though, but that was sick. I'm gonna line you up. I'm gonna introduce Zarchan not least man one of my favorite hoopers ever man but MVP the big three if you don't know basketball you know this man certified bucket the dog Jay Crawford appreciate you my dog I had to pull up y'all doing your thing Midwest kid you know I'm saying how we were we're going to start the episode off, man, with a Friday-ass question like we always do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Where are the tapes from you dunking on LeBron at, man? Man, we got to find them. For sure. I wore these today on purpose. LeBron, trade these for the tape. We need to see it. Stop the hate. They owe me $500, too.
Starting point is 00:04:20 They actually bet us before that happened. Whoever dunk on LeBron get $500. I never got my five. Hey man, pay your debts, man. Pay your debts. Man, we gotta start it off, man. Midwest legend, D-Town, man. What started you hooping, man?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Cause you come from a lineage of hoopers. Yeah. I don't know when it started, started since I can remember. I got a big brother who I followed my whole career, you know what I'm saying, who I took after. But three, four, I mean we playing one-on-one every day, and that's where it started.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So. Started getting a crack with your big brother, like for you, you know what I'm saying, you and your baby bro, young Mook. How was that? Shit, I used to beat his ass. What the fuck you mean? How long did it take for him to start getting with you though nah i remember when i
Starting point is 00:05:06 he got eighth grade i felt like damn he might beat me i stopped playing this yeah jumping high that oh my brothers we ain't we got to age we stopped playing once for real we just played with each other oh yeah that's how i mean yeah the ones that got too it got too serious man he had to see each other we living in the same room i know know. Y'all niggas probably was fighting and shit, too. They know this, nigga. Hey, that nigga talk shit. But my brother was so much bigger, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Your brother was younger than the first Baron Davis, nigga. The real B.D. How old was the age gap between you and Joe? It was only two. But it looked like 4'5". Especially when he was younger. Damn. I ain't know that. I don't know why I want to make him much older. There's no disrespect. But yeah, but it looked like four, five. Especially when he was younger. Damn, I ain't know that. I don't know why I wanna make him much older,
Starting point is 00:05:47 there's no disrespect, but like, yeah, it didn't really look like. That nigga was a grown man. Grown. Damn, bro. Nah, nigga, he was like a grown man. A real six, four, two guard, bro. Shout out to Faygo, man.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Nah, he was a monster, bro. Yeah. Nah, we can talk about it. Joe was, you know, I mean, he was taught, that 0-4 class that everybody talk about. Elite. He was five, six ranked in that class. Yeah, I'm, he was taught that 0-4 class that everybody talk about. He was 5'6", ranked in that class. Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't go out of high school. We ain't know that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:11 We ain't have no clue or no thinking we could go out of high school. And he could have went. Oh, he definitely could have went out of high school. He was the biggest guard in that class, and he probably had the best clip outside of JR for real. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, no doubt. He know some shit. Oh, nigga, I'm tapped in. clip outside of JR for real. Yeah, for sure. He knows some shit. He knows some shit.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Oh, nigga, I'm tapped in. Nigga, we... Yeah, bro. I was outside. You really stole my shine, bro. The real city for Carl. Nah, for sure. Like, when y'all came here, well, when they came here, Malik
Starting point is 00:06:43 Harrison and them, like we remember them bro, y'all niggas was really elite for real. I was probably the last time a team from Detroit that went outside and played. You know we ain't got a room, we can't even go. It's like 270 miles away. Same shit we get. Yes, everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Y'all got that? Uh-huh. Okay. We can't play nobody, that shit whack, but. Yeah, I'll be having like four, five teams that'll be good, especially around that time. It was like four, five high school teams. Oh yeah, shit whack, but. Yeah, I'll be having like four or five teams that'll be good. Especially around that time. It was like four or five high school teams. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Like eight. Eight. Nine. Every section, every of the big sections around here all had an NBA player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm trying to think. Like you had LNNL.
Starting point is 00:07:16 You had Mike and Greg. Mike and Greg. You had, obviously, you had EJ. You had Carmel. Carmel had Josh McRoberts. Yeah, for sure. George Hill was at Broad Ripple. Shit.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Childs to Ripple. When I first seen speech they had, it was Mike Con had Josh McRoberts. Yeah, for sure. George Hill was at Brad Ripple. Shout out to Ripple. When I first seen Speaks, they had Mike Conley, Dequan Cook. I think Eric Gordon was coming off the bench. And then they had, you know, Greg. They had Poo. They had Aaron. Aaron Pogue, nigga. They was strapped for it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Shout out to Reese. Was that like the craziest AU team you saw? I think they was playing against OJ and them at the time. Oh, you saw that game. was, I think they was playing against OJ and them. Oh, you saw that game. Yeah, I think they was playing OJ. Yeah, so it was, but that was a team I'm like, man, we played them, we just can't beat them. Like, for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:53 No, but y'all team was nasty too though. But we ain't never, we couldn't win. Y'all was going, they was going heavy. They was the team I was like, them some niggas, boy. Raymar hooped the knees. Yeah. Shout out to Ray Maher, man. I be like, hey, them some real niggas, man.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm like, I'm a nigga. Shout out to Ray Maher Smith on here, everything, man. Yeah. Ray Maher for sure. Love, bro, love. I'm a nigga, but them some niggas, bro. Yeah, bro. We had reversible jerseys,
Starting point is 00:08:23 they had reversible jerseys too, but they shit was like the family, nigga. Fuck this shit. I'm not fucking with them. He said the real sunset party. You did your four at King too? No. What, high school?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. No, I went to Renaissance for a year. Then I went to CMA. But I ain't playing high school. Yeah, my nigga was real good. I was eligible all four years. What, basketball? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I just played AU. Bro, can we get a story? Talk about, bro, you made it to the league and played high school basketball. I ain't played high school. Imagine. I went to summer school every year. I had to pay for summer school classes. I was felling them.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I was getting.6s. Hey, you can't say that shit while I'm a high school coach now. All my teachers are like, hey, J.J., what was he talking about? J.J. Buckus. No, it was brutal, hey, what was he talking about? J.C. No, it was brutal, though. It was brutal. It was tough on me. I made it hard on me.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Pause. You know what I'm saying? But, no, I only played, I played like a half a season my junior year, and I played JV beginning of my ninth, because you could play even if you was ineligible the first half. So we could play the first half. Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 This shit got spooky. Yeah, they sent that boy home, it was over for me. It was over. Well nigga, how the fuck you get to college? Cause I went to summer school and then I went to prep school and like fixed all my grades. So you went to Hargrave?
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. Yeah, y'all to the academy. How is it going to Hargrave? We had a kid that was in our AU program go to Hargrave and he used to call us and be like, man, I got to wake up at five. Nah, for sure. And you got to have a clear face.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You got to march to breakfast, lunch, dinner. Oh, my nigga was in major pain. Yeah, and our lieutenant was called major pain. God. He was major pain. Third year, third. Yeah. Hey, bro, hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Hold on, JC. Don't remember that part. Come on bro But that's what he was doing You don't remember that part On the movie Nah but JC was sharing his story You didn't have to do that
Starting point is 00:10:09 To them people bro That's what he did On the movie bro Come on bro You got a deafening At your school right now Bro that one You don't remember that part
Starting point is 00:10:15 That was funny Shout out to everybody That weren't hearing these bro You out of pocket bro Shout out to the Shout out to the Nah but how was your time At Hargrave though
Starting point is 00:10:22 Man That shit was like jamim that was crazy hard but every college coach in the country came there and just watched his hoop so it was like if you can get through it it's a cheat code because i mean it was duke in there they were just watching play pickup too every day but like as far as height the living man she was crazy we were with football players too who was going to like alabama and georgia big so you know what i'm saying all taishi we had chores so them sometimes the on the side of the bad toilet and that had chores that we cleaned the bathroom
Starting point is 00:10:57 it was on like that it was really like jail though that was crazy that was your karma bro for up in high school yeah not for. You could've had a normal life nigga. So we had to give that nigga that penitentiary life. That scared straight life. Yeah, well damn. The juke was bugging, that shit like a juke hole. Nah, you gotta hell with the story. I didn't know you didn't play high school ball though.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Nah, you gotta be a cold nigga that never play high school basketball and make it to the league. Definitely, I should've sent a nigga to AAU. I swear to God. We gonna keep going. Nah, I'm talking shit. nigga to AAU. I swear to God, we gonna keep going. I tell you. No, no, because we got, the shit gets greater.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Absolutely. False, but the story gets crazy. We're rocking this episode. So you go crazy, hard grave, regular season, how that shit work? Like y'all was playing other prep schools or cold schools like that? Yeah, playing other prep schools.
Starting point is 00:11:40 We would play like a college JV team. Like we played North Carolina JV team. Damn, they got JV team? Yeah, they weak though. Okay. It was like an intramural type shit. Okay. But then we played other press schools
Starting point is 00:11:52 and then we would go to like a final four and it was in DC and then yeah, shit like that. But it was, you play like 40 games, a lot of games. Yeah. Yeah, you get right. That's some good burn though. 40 is crazy. Yeah. I'm gonna say nigga, that's more than get right. That's some good burn though. 40 is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:05 That's more than college shit. That's a burn. Half league season. So how you, like, so you get, you started getting recruited, you know, you had grade trouble, but now you get the hard grab, you're getting recruited, what's that like? It's, man, I mean, they recruiting us every day.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So like after the open runs, it'd be like seven coaches that want to talk to you. You talk to the head coach. So once, you know, I just needed to get my grades up. Once I got my grades up, I could kind of go to any school. And then I was already, Xavier was, you know, they was recruiting me when I was getting.6s. They was still wanting me.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was going to be Xavier, yeah, Indiana. And then I just, when I went to Indiana, it just, it was like, you know. Fun as hell. I ain't going to lie. The Halloween party. Yeah, that shit was crazy. Oh, they took my boy down to Dunkirk.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Got him cracking. I know the vibes. Shit get real spooky on a Tuesday night. And I was at Hargrave when I went on a visit. So I was at an all-boys school, and I got to go on a visit to IU for the weekend. You saw them yams? Oh, yeah. He had a ball.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Them Susans out there ready. He's like. I committed, I committed. Child's a Britney Spears of them. I was thinking I could play over Eric Gordon, all them naked women in that bitch. See, I'm coming in now. Hey, what's crazy is y'all almost gonna be
Starting point is 00:13:21 back court teammates, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I thought about going to IU. My mama said, hell no. She was like, nah, you ain't going there. It's too close to home. And nigga, y'all had too much fun on your visit. If I would've went my sophomore year, I don't think I would've made it to the league.
Starting point is 00:13:34 If it would've, if Samson would've stayed, I would've been the man my sophomore year. Yeah, IU's a different, that shit was different. Bloomington not a real place, but. Niggas still live there. They just live there, but somehow they survive in Blo in blooming yeah we can talk about that off camera there's a lot of ways to survive in bloomers we always talk about moving packs man oh anyway oh what we don't really talk about yeah he out of pocket out of pocket but you get to be telling y'all had a
Starting point is 00:14:01 whip we did we did we did y'all had one fucking whip. We did. We did. We did, man. Y'all had one of the most talented teams I've seen in a long time. For sure. Y'all had everything. You had a legit college big who'd been there a long time. You had DJ White. Monster. He was cold.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You had you. You had the young guy. You had EJ. We had Armand Bassett. Shouts out to Armand. Who was in there for Florida? We had Jamarcus Ellis and DeAndre Thomas. Hey!
Starting point is 00:14:28 I want y'all on the show, bro. Come tell y'all a story. Listen. Hold on, mama. Y'all some real niggas, bro. I don't give a fuck what y'all real niggas, bro. I said, damn, they going there, too? It's up.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I almost had a number five jersey, but a nigga ate it on me, bro. Hey, man. Real niggas. You ain't fucking with AJ Moye, number five? Oh, no. He ain't the real number five. No, a nigga hated on me, bro. Hey, man. Real nigga. You ain't fucking with AJ Moye, number five? Oh, no. He ain't the real number five. No, he was four. Nah, you wore five.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Nah, Jamarcus did. Nah, he wore five. Nah, I wore five at IU. I did wear five at IU. I swear. Oh, but that was your jersey then. He wore three. But I fuck with Jamarcus.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yep. He was three. Nah, DJ wore three. No, he won. DJ was three. I remember you was five. I know I remember because I played at Minnesota, nigga, and you was killing my nigga. Oh, three. I don't remember. I remember you was five. I know I remember because I played at Minnesota, nigga and you was killing my nigga.
Starting point is 00:15:08 See I remember, I don't forget shit. My nigga called me said, that man I told you that nigga was cold. My first game at IU I had 30. I went 10 for 11. And Eric Gore and Pops made the call and said, hey, real shit though. We just gotta be told, man. They made the call and said, hey. What's up, Biggie? Hey. Real shit, though.
Starting point is 00:15:27 We just got to be told, man. They made the call and said, we got to chill. He got to chill out. He got to chill out. Nah, I believe. He's still on that. Nah, for sure. I believe.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. Eric Gore was getting picked up in, like, black trucks and then driving around the block getting dropped back off right at the same spot. Like, every Tuesday. Nah, that's crazy. My nigga was living a different life. Yeah. All's crazy. My nigga's living a different life. Yeah, on God. Yeah, he's living a different life. Nah, bro, but he's been living a different life since we was kids, bro.
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Starting point is 00:18:58 five and six on June 4th ad free at lava for good. Plus on Apple Podcasts. Y'all niggas was lit, bro. Nah, they was, dog. Y'all was really the real first NIL get on team, nigga, for sure, bro. Yeah, they had to get us out of there because we was on CBS with all them nappy heads. We ain't had no lineups. Man, they had to get us out of there. And ain't no barbers and boobies.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Man, they had to get us out of there. Nah, for real, though. But your Marcus Ellis and DeAndre Thomas, man. On my life, bro. Tap in. Don't fuck with us. Listen, man. The way them boys was living, man.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Bro, I swear, bro. Y'all niggas needed cameras, bro. They was grown. Y'all really need cameras, bro. If y'all would have had Instagram, y'all would have been crazy. They need cameras. We got blew off by 30 at halftime at Michigan State. We was getting blown off by 30.
Starting point is 00:19:45 This was when Docage was our coach. He, you know, Jamarcus was going to sports. And he changed. He was going there every day. You know, that shit was just one day a week. He was going there every day. Like an old nigga just sitting at the bar type shit. Man, we getting blown out.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Dockage bring up sports at halftime. That nigga Jamarcus cut him off. Hey, hey, don't bring up sports. Got nothing to do with sports. Don. That nigga Jamarcus cut him off. Hey, hey, don't bring up sports. You got nothing to do with sports. Like, don't talk about sports. Don't talk about my spot. Hey, you ever been to sports on a Tuesday? You know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Oh, man, it's $2 a day. Don't talk about my spot. Hey, yeah, my mama here a legend, bro. That's the only time I fucked with IU, bro, because the real niggas was on campus, bro. Dog, y'all went from Kelvin's head to the dead dog. I know that shit was spooky in that locker room. Damn. We had real chaos on our shoe.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He told us to wipe it off, all type of shit. Man, man. Fucking Dan Dockers. Kelvin Sampson forever. Dan Dockers was crazy, motherfucker. Damn, man. You made that move. Shout out to the allegations at IU. You go to Xavier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Shit got real for real yeah for sure I don't know niggas was ghetto to talk about it. Y'all niggas is some wild niggas, bro. They forgot they was them my niggas. Two out here, two the guy, the yeeks. Yeah, two. Yeah, them niggas, bro. But Xavier was a, Sean Miller was, for real, Sean Miller just like Samson in a way. Oh, we know.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, he wanted some real niggas. I ain't going to lie. I had a visit with Xavier. So me and my buddy Phil went. That nigga locked me in the closet. Sean Miller, bro. And then what? Commit. Commit. I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:21:32 You like it here, right? I'm like, this nigga got me in the closet. I'm in there like, you a fucked up nigga, bro. K.O.'s already got to me allegations, bro. Allegations. Don't bring that heat on me, bro. Allegations. That's a sick act. Sean Miller a filthy nigga. I fuck with him, though. He was was cool as hell though yeah i can see why you went through that he was not so he had some classic battles
Starting point is 00:21:51 with brother too i remember y'all didn't fight against brother it went down one game hey one of my favorite basketball guys i ever watched in my life shout out to my cousin q with y'all in the tournament versus kansas state bro. And you and Jacob Pullen was going at it, bro. Jacob Pullen and Cole, motherfucker. Yeah, that was a classic game. That was a dog ass game. You know what I'm saying? That was, I ain't, what was so dope about it,
Starting point is 00:22:14 it was the only game on TV. So everybody was watching that shit. What you think would have happened if you had Instagram at that moment? Shit, if he was been there. Man, yeah, I would have got my 100 mil. Nah, real talk, bro. I got my 100 mil.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It ain't my shit. They all down, for sure. Instagram, when you did that moment in the tournament, bro. That was different times back then, man. That was a moment. I remember watching the game and then i remember when we drafted i was on the hawks and you got drafted i'm like why they draft this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:22:50 like i'm like we already got jamal i'm like that nigga play like jamal where the fuck i'ma play he know how the league is like i was yeah's my nigga. I was going to my nigga's crib after practice, all type of shit. It's how the league is. He's like, damn, they draft another guard. Nigga, they already got Jamal, Bibby. Nigga, where the fuck I'm going to play? Went in me at Atlanta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Went in me at Atlanta. I went out with Joe Johnson one time. The nigga took my keys and said, nigga took my keys and was like, you going, hey, bro, you staying at my crib, bro. You ain't driving. Yeah. The nigga took me to his crib. He was throwing up on his way there.
Starting point is 00:23:28 All types of shit. He was fucked up. Man, the nigga didn't go to practice the next day. Oh, God. That's Joe, though. That nigga didn't go. Nigga, I just got there. I didn't even know how to get to.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I didn't know where my whip was. Man, nigga, I showed up. Them niggas watching film. Coach like, why you late? I'm like, shit. I woke up late. I just kept it real. I woke up late. Oh, you're a real up. Them niggas watching film. Coach like, why you late? I'm like, shit. I woke up late. I just kept it real. I woke up late.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh, you're a real nigga. Yeah, just move. I was in tears. This nigga called. They like, call that nigga. I called him. I said, where you at? He said, man, I'm in Joe's big ass house.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I don't even know where the fuck you at. I was rolling. I don't know where the fuck to go. I said, damn, you at Joe's house? I said, oh, shit. He's like, Joe there? I'm like, hell no. I don't know. I ain't even know where to to fuck the girl. I said, damn, you at Joe House? I said, oh, shit. He's like, Joe there? I'm like, hell no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I didn't even know where to look for the nigga. So I happened to see my whip. I didn't even know my whip was there. I happened to see my whip. Yeah. And I didn't know how to get to practice type shit. No GDS. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Joe to practice. Yeah, later as a motherfucker. Man, that shit in me right there. That was over. Yeah, it was. That was what started the me right there. That was over. Yeah, it was. That was over with. That was a start in his ass right there. Yeah, that was over with.
Starting point is 00:24:28 My nigga was, I'm saying, he get drafted, so we both not playing, but I'm like, damn, he cold. We in practice. I'm like, damn, this nigga really cold. So I remember one game, I don't know if you remember this, but we both on the bench at the end of the bench. We playing Dallas, nigga. And they call your name.
Starting point is 00:24:43 They like, Jordan, get in. I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, nigga, they call your name they like jordan get in i'm like what the i was like they called your name you like yeah this go in the game and go crazy i'm on a like this hooping like everybody going crazy and then you know the competitor and you like damn this about to get the hoes tonight i gotta get in i'm on a like i can I can do that shit too, nigga. Nah, he's gonna say,
Starting point is 00:25:06 nigga, hey bro, you got the friend, don't worry. Yo, God, nigga, I was with my nigga though.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We locked in. I used to want my nigga to take, I used to want my nigga to start. Yeah. I was like, man, baby my nigga, baby the hoop,
Starting point is 00:25:17 but he was done then. Start my nigga T. Come on, bro, we was like, we about to take this bitch, yo, we wasn't playing.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, we was the hoop. Hey, what my nigga, what you tell me, we wasn't playing, bro. We wasn't playing. We was the hoot. What you tell me? We wasn't playing, bro. We ain't the man on the court.
Starting point is 00:25:31 We got to be the man in the street. Me and my nigga went out every day, bro. We in this tonight, bro. Somebody got to see us, man. Somebody got to see us. Y'all was in Atlanta wilding, bro. Hell of a time in my life, bro. Nah, that's what's up, man. But he was so cold.
Starting point is 00:25:45 When we used to practice, I'd be like, there's no way this nigga not gonna play. Like he gotta play. So the year go on, go on. They like, me and him, we out. So they basically come to us like, one of y'all niggas gotta go. I was like, shit.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I'm like, nigga, you gotta go. It's gotta be you nigga, I live in Atlanta nigga. I knew you was gonna eventually play. Like I could to be you. I live in Atlanta, nigga. I knew you was going to eventually play. Like I could tell you was going to eventually get in. They should have played you way quicker than they did. But I knew you was going to eventually get in, but I didn't think I was going to get traded. When I got traded, then I went to the Generals.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Man, it was over with. It was crazy. My boy in D.C. It was over with. I was like, nah, I can't leave Atlanta. I was on some, I can't leave Atlanta. I wouldn't even think about playing nah i can't leave atlanta i was awesome i can't leave atlanta i wouldn't even think about playing i can't leave atlanta then they traded i'm like i traded him man you maneuvered your way in a lot of years in the land you got a whole bunch of the bitches oh damn this is gonna give you true talk about it no no but when he got traded
Starting point is 00:26:42 this starting playing he killed the heat bro i'd never forget the phone call that said t watch me on sports center tonight i'm like what happened i killed them like who they he i typed that in i said this clowning i was so hyped bro y'all was up it was up. It was the Wizards. That shit ain't do nothing for me, man. Yeah, that's a fact. Not them Wizards, man. And you was there.
Starting point is 00:27:11 That was right with John Wall? Yeah, first year. So that was the allegation year with Gilbert? Gilbert. The allegations with Gilbert. Before I got there, JaVale and Andre Black scrapped each other. Nigga, in the club. That shit went out.
Starting point is 00:27:26 That was crazy. Like, that shit was a circus around that bitch, my nigga. And then it was like seven. When I got traded, it was like seven rookies. Yeah. So it was seven of them. It was two. And then, you know, J-Wall was like biggest,
Starting point is 00:27:38 you know, the biggest nigga going. So it was like, we gonna see what this nigga doing? And then everybody else, y'all niggas just gotta, you know what I'm saying? Fall in? Yeah. Let's dial back, though. What was your draft process like, though? Draft process, it was shit.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I had to go work out like 20 times. Damn. I was destroying niggas. Destroying niggas, for sure. You know, looking back at it now, I'm surprised I got drafted first round because how they do niggas, but, you know, I was killing that shit. Yeah. And that's crazy. Like like one of the most talented
Starting point is 00:28:07 offensive players ever, but you learned the business of basketball, and you be like, but I'm still cold. But then you go look and you kill niggas in practice all day, you come in and be like, what's it for me? And then you learn, oh this business is different. Yeah, I mean, it ain't nothing you can't compete with, and I always tried to compete with that shit. Like I cared too much for real in the NBA. But that how that's the thing that's how I got to the NBA I got to the NBA just off you see
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Starting point is 00:32:51 for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I ain't gonna lie, I can vouch, bro. I see that nigga kill. I used to be like, I remember Juggs would tell me like, hey, this little nigga really can score. And I remember this nigga said, nigga, I'm better than lie, I can vouch bro. I see that nigga kill. I used to be like, I remember Joe used to tell me like, hey this little nigga really can score. And I remember this nigga said, nigga I'm better than you nigga. And I said, oh he's wild. Cause that nigga Joe was like,
Starting point is 00:33:12 man give me this motherfucker, put that little nigga in the post. Nigga I said, you can't fuck with that nigga right there. That shit say 245. That nigga gonna fuck with him bro, fuck. I played him in a summer league game when it was me and Luke Will versus him and Damien Wilkins and shit.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I was on some hype shit, trying to check him and shit. It wasn't nothing I could do, but he was the only nigga like him. He the only nigga like him. That nigga not normal, bro. I'll take that all the time. Most slept on NBA player ever. Yeah, that nigga cold, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But nah, this nigga used to kill. I used to play this nigga amazing, bro. I used to go home and be like, cause he could shoot. Nigga, I wasn't no shooter nigga like that. I was like, this nigga can shoot. But wasn't no shooter. Like that's what this can shoot. But you had that demeanor that I ain't have. You had that like,
Starting point is 00:33:50 I can deal with the bullshit and still turn it on when it's time to turn it off. See me, I was like, when there's some bullshit, you gonna see, I think it's some bullshit. Oh God. That's some bullshit. And then, but it's too late by me then. Then they already know what I'm on.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's a whole with playing the game. It was when i played the game it was like you full of you yeah you know what you are trying to be a good city right now i think over there clapping this you really ain't clapping that's what you're doing with that like that no that's what that's the thing that's all with me everybody else doing they like you playing the game, man. Good job. That shit don't even look right, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Nah, but that nigga, he's like, I remember like your wizard time, but the time I really remember, we played y'all. First of all, you got me a tech. You remember that shit? Yeah, I remember that shit. Man, this nigga was talking shit,
Starting point is 00:34:39 the ref tech, I was pissed. I looked at that nigga, I said, what the fuck? We broke, nigga. I was talking shit to you and Nick Van Exen for real. I'm like, nigga, we broke, nigga. Why the fuck you on it? What nigga?
Starting point is 00:34:51 I was like, nigga, I don't got no money. That nigga was talking bad. Yeah, nigga. Go run the motherfucking place, sad ass nigga. That nigga be a modest over here, baby. Nah, that nigga was good. I was hyped for it, though. How y'all get that check, though?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Y'all was just barking back and forth? We was talking. Yeah, we was just barking back and forth. I was hyped because I was hooping. I'm getting to play against my own team type shit. Yeah. That type shit. And then I'm like, man, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:35:16 We just talking. They take his check. And I looked at him like, what the fuck? And then he looked at me and was like, man. We ain't talking for a minute. I'm like, I ain't talking to that nigga no more, man. That nigga played free basketball that night. I played two minutes for that, man. And I only played like 10 minutes. That ain't talked for a minute. I'm like, I ain't talk to that nigga no more. That nigga played free basketball that night. Yeah, I played two minutes for that bitch.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I only played like 10 minutes. That nigga got ticked. All right, question before we go further. You feel like, you know what I'm saying, the way the league is now, how they let niggas get their shit off, you feel like you wish you could have played a little bit later in the league? Oh, for sure. I mean, you know, they was so – when we first got in the league,
Starting point is 00:35:42 that's when Instagram first got cracking. So they was scared of Instagram too. So, like like i was doing a little funny show instagram so they was kind of just scared of me but now that's why this so dope now because they you know everybody it's like everybody can play devil advocate like somebody do something wrong they just be like but you know they justify it so they let rock out so i wish wish I would for sure, you know what I'm saying? Cause I made niggas uncomfortable and I really was just misunderstood. You, I say you was like seven or eight years too early.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Cause the way you play is what niggas get paid for now. Like Anthony Simons is how you play. Like nigga watch out, I can get a bucket anytime. Anytime I want, I can get a bucket. I can shoot, I can get to the rim. I can finish, I can pass. But that's what I always used to be on. See niggas see me as a bucket anytime. Anytime I want, I can get a bucket. I can shoot, I can get to the rim. I can finish, I can pass. But that's what I always used to be on. See, niggas see me as a bucket.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I was always on some PG shit. But I knew my scoring was gonna open shit up. So yeah, I might go in that bitch, shoot five straight times, cause nigga scared of me, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Nigga scared, but I see him. I'ma drop that bitch off, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I remember you was getting triple doubles in Boston. I was tapped, I'm like, this is my nigga, bro. I was like, yo, this is my nigga. So I'm like, my nigga's getting triple doubles. Like, I wore 55, because my nigga wore 55 in Boston. Don't bullshit. My nigga J.C. wore 55, I'm getting 55, nigga.
Starting point is 00:36:58 But nah, that nigga used to get triple doubles, but I used to be like, man, that nigga was just too, like, when we came in the league, nigga, they used to real life be like, pass that bitch to the post and cut through yeah i'm like and they were saying shit was bad shots oh god i can be a nigga ninth man on for off the bench his first shot could be a step back three yeah it's cool yeah like these niggas what they used to always say they couldn't wait to say my shit was a bad shot yeah it's facts bro you were seven years too early.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like, you came in right now, bro. It's weird though, cause I mean, even, you know, but like D Rose, when D Rose came out and they picked him over Mike Beasley, you was seeing like, oh, they will pick a small nigga over the cold big nigga, you know what I'm saying? That's a late transition. Yeah, and then, then Steph came and it was like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 nigga, we could pick a nigga who we just make a shot every time. So it was like, nigga, we could pick a nigga who we just make a shot every time. So it was like the shit was there, but then they just always used to be like, yeah, I'm too small to be a two-guard type shit. Yeah, I'm saying seven years too early. Now you get, look, seven years later, you got C.J. McCollum and Dame in the backcourt. We would have never, when we first came to the league, you would never. Six fours, two guard, hell nah.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Like we started Joe. But how many teams do do like two cold guards? Like Dame and CJ was the closest they did to the like two, both playmaker type shit. But now you see, look, you had Terry Rozier, LaMelo, like you know what I mean? Like it's hella teams now that you can be like, nigga, if you can hoop, we'll just throw you up in the show.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, that off guard usually can be small though. You like that. And it be on bullshit. Seven years, two rounds. Especially if the point be like, nigga, if you can hoop, we'll just throw you out there for a show. Yeah, that off guard usually can be small, though. If you like that. And it be on bullshit. Seven years, two years. Especially if the point guard like 6'5", LaMelo 6'5", he can go check a three. Yeah, easy. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Easy. Like CP and Steph this year. Nigga, they don't give a fuck. You can hoop, you can hoop. And they all be cool. Here, that's when we get to talk about these bum ass coaches. Talk about it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Man, they don't know how to coach that type of shit though. Yeah, he a coach now, so that's why he throwing that ass up and shit. I don't say nobody a bum. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I don't say nobody a bum. I'm trying to get a job. Hey, look, I came here to make some niggas uncomfortable. Nah, yo, do your thing.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Go crazy, JC. Fuck that nigga over there. Nah. Hey, kids, fuck high school basketball. Be cold. See, they don't see me. Be cold. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah. Hey, kids, fuck high school basketball. Be cold. See, they on some. Be cold. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Nah, nah, nah. We'll say average 30, nigga. I can't get a better example than Jeff T. Nah, for sure. For sure. Nah, but on some real shit, like, he's 70 years too early. Think about how you scored a ball, bro. Nah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Niggas get paid millions for that, bro. For sure. I'm talking about big money, bro. A whole lot of me like hundreds and barely really scoring that really scoring what what you know no shot at austin reeves not shot at austin reeves i like austin reeves game i like him too i like i like a lot of this is just the thing he is just like take advantage of the minutes yeah but he averaged what 14 15. but we know he got paid because he can play next to Bron.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But that's all. No disrespect. No offense, bro. When he, that was him, bro. Like he got niggas. I'm taking my nigga over. Nah, I'm not saying. I am.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm just saying, you put, I am too. I'm just saying, you put that nigga next to Bron and you need a nigga to go get a bucket, you just go get a bucket. Austin Reeves like that. He is like that. I like him. But I'm just saying, he could do this.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You been with Cam Reddish? Hell no. I'm a CR fan. I'm a big Cam over it. I don't know, bro. They'll tell you I'm one of the first to bounce for Cam. He was a frying nigga like you. Cam Reddish.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I play with Cam. They let my nigga off the leash. I play with Cam, bro. I play with Cam. I like Cam a lot. Nah, yeah. Austin Reeves is nasty, though. Off the crease is nasty though. Off the crease is cold.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They just, they be gasping a little bit. Like, they be gassing some shit. Cause he white. We not gonna do that, bro. I ain't playing that race car. I am.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That motherfucker can hoop, bro. He nasty, bro. He can hoop. He nasty, but I'm just saying. They need to play, like, you know what I'm saying, like a Kim Thomas. You know what i'm saying like a cam uh thomas
Starting point is 00:40:46 like you can see bro he can score the out there we're talking about him with edmund he needs to play he can yeah he nasty that'd be my whole damn that's crazy man what was your favorite team you played on so far i mean it's a lot of different teams for a reason i mean that was my first that was my atlanta was fun because it was like real vets. It was my first time seeing some shit. But, I mean, you know, Boston because I was player of the week. I got to be player of the week type shit. I was really playing.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So, yeah, that type. Yeah, probably them two situations. Okay. Wizards was fun, too, though. You know what I'm saying? Running around with the delinquents. I got the hootie shit. The generals.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, the generals. You know what I'm saying? I want to ask you some fraud shit. What was the best team nigga that you went out and had the time with the delinquents. I got the hootie shit. The generals. Yeah, the generals. I want to ask you some fraud shit. What was the best team nigga that you went out and had the time of the night? Atlanta. What was the best team? Yeah, it got to be Atlanta for sure. ATL. That shit was every day.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Shout out to Mike Bibby. Hey. Mike Bibby. Melvin Deer, bro. Josh. Yes, sir. Marvin. Them niggas used to break.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That nigga Marvin Williams one time. We walked in a Louis store. That nigga said, get whatever. I ain't got a little hat. He bought that whole ass nigga a wallet. That nigga had a snapback wallet. He had some chucks, nigga. He bought me a wallet and some chucks. You want my nigga a wallet?
Starting point is 00:41:56 That nigga used to be copping shit for niggas, man. Nigga, you remember he caught us with the watches? I had two of them bitches. Big come on, bro. He done know what up. Love, love. That nigga Biggie said. Josh Smith bought me like eight suits.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Facts. I remember the niggas started buying me G-Shocks and shit. Them niggas was cool as hell, bro. Hell yeah. I had some real OGs, bro. Real OGs. We used to go out every city, every day, nigga. Joe used to walk with a fleet in there, man.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Then he used to keep like eight girls. Yeah, keep the party with them. We come in with the party. Yeah, the party, bro. Nigga had a big monster truck, monster truck come pick everybody up at that spot this this like 15 people oh i passed all over that is your legend john thompson we need you on the show we got to make that happen oh man we got to go to london how you feel about the n today, though? Like, what's your take? Like, so far you think it's soft, you think it's more skillful. What's your take on it?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I fuck with it. It's skillful. It's skillful for sure. I don't think, like, they need to keep it. They need to make sure that shit is competitive as it can be. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think it's a little watered down. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Just on the competitive side. Because if you look at like a football game, you're watching football and then you're watching a basketball game, you'd be locked in in that football game. The way they commentate, the way they, you know what I'm saying? The way they talk about what's going on. I just think everything is just cookie cutter in the NBA. But it's some talented motherfuckers though.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And I'll follow up with that because obviously I'm a student. I really fuck with you and I really fuck the game. I be seeing you killing Rico Hines and be like, damn, I'm killing niggas that's getting hundred mil contracts. Like, I can see how you be like, I'm still doing my thing, but I'm killing y'all. Like, the opportunity is just different.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, at this point, I don't even trip no more. Like, I ain't tripping on being in the league. I'll big three this shit on out. Hey, lock in, Q. Me and you can big three this shit on out. You, lock in, Q. Me and you can big through your shit on out. You need point guard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:47 He get the sketches. Is my nigga trying to play? Nah, they hit me up, man. I might come out in time. Hey, T. Bro, that shit lit. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I heard it was lit, though. Talk to him, J.C. You can play it on Wednesday. The break deposit. That shit there. Yeah, first class flights. In Memphis,
Starting point is 00:44:03 we got picked up with some sprinters. They was banging all Dolph shit. But like you know the airport everybody coming out they had the doors open banging that it was it was like a tour he missing the experience he gonna come no no i just had a lot going on this summer yeah for sure i was being a high school coach and you've got to come in actually you will destroy that nah my knees ain't the same i've've been seeing the highlights, my man. Yeah, yeah, dude. Let's get some niggas.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Niggas going to go at him. Yeah, these ain't niggas. Because he been popping shit up here. This nigga going to start. I know you, nigga. I watched it this year. I'm like, oh, this nigga. Nah, you was kicking.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, this nigga was kicking. I was on a mission. I was on a mission. Yeah, he definitely was on a mission. This nigga out here cooking. I ain't about to go out there. Hold on. I got to get some niggas that can hoop still. Nah, he definitely was on the mission. This nigga out here cooking. I ain't about to go out there. Hold on. I got to get some niggas that can hoop still.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Nah, you can go and run with the enemies. You know what I'm saying? It's half-court, though, bro. When you be going to come on the enemies, it's a lot of, you know what I'm saying? You kind of down there blackballed. Them the blackballed niggas. You know what I'm saying? That's all you used to, nigga.
Starting point is 00:45:00 That's all the nigga used to. What, you swaggy? Hell yeah. Q? All of them, man. We the. What, you swaggy? Hell yeah. Q? All of them, man. We need to do Black Bull. I respect it. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We're going to talk about some current shit going on right now. Phoenix Suns. How you feel about that big three? I like it. I like the fact that they got them two, like, real two guards playing with each other and Eric Gordon. Shout out to EJ. Off the bench crazy. Yeah, I like real two guards playing with each other. And Eric Gordon. Shout out to EJ, off the bench crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, I like real two guards playing with each other and they like, anybody can be the point. And of course KD gonna do what KD do. So, I like them, I like them for sure. You like that team better than Boston? Nah, Boston, I like Jaylen Brown a lot. So, if Jaylen Brown and Tatum, I like them two together too much.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah, and what Porzingis. Yeah, and Drew, I mean. so if jaylen brown tatum i like them two together yeah too much yeah yeah yeah what poor zing is yeah andrew i mean drew drew make a hell of a difference you don't want to play against them then yeah that's crazy now who gonna play defense all game is that the best team or is milwaukee the best team boston yeah i'm going i'm going milwaukee bro i'm gonna go boston because when dame and yannis figured that out bro it's gonna get spooky like it's two you really can't stop how y'all feel about dame as like a point though like he gonna have to really kill and make the right play to win this boy i i like i think dame the second best point guard in the league i think if you unless you got like Luka at point. Luka is a point, but I always go back and forth between him and Luka.
Starting point is 00:46:27 My favorite, my best player in the league is Shea. Oh, he nasty. Cold. He nasty, bro. I think he the best player in the NBA, though. Shea, best in the league. Damn, that's tough. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:46:38 All right, man. Revenge season for my nigga Kyrie, man. Y'all been counting my nigga out, man. But see, no, look. If they make it to the playoffs, Dallas, I think them two niggas can beat anybody. That's the problem. That's 240 balls. Them two niggas can beat anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:51 They can't guard nobody. They ain't got nobody. They can't guard. They didn't even try to get nobody. They got the kid from Duke, but that's going to be tough for you to be a center in the West. If Boston or Milwaukee, if they play Dallas in the finals, they're sweeping there.
Starting point is 00:47:12 They can't guard nobody. They can't guard Book. They can't guard Bill. They can't guard KD. They can't guard. Luka got to guard somebody. Yeah, they can't guard nobody. But them two niggas can just scare people.
Starting point is 00:47:21 If they own they shit. Yeah, they can get spooky. It's going to be 245. Yeah, that's for sure. Grant Williams can't guard all them niggas can just scare people. If they own they shit. Yeah, they can get spooky. Yeah, they get. It's going to be 245. Yeah, that's for sure. Grant Williams can't guard all them niggas we said. Somebody going to have to do some shit. They can have a moment for sure, but. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I don't know. Milwaukee, bro, it's just set up perfectly, bro, with Chris. They got a whip. Chris is an X Factor. Yeah. And then you still got BP off the bench. Yeah, Brooke Lopez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:44 On me. Yeah, he be hooping. And they big as hell. Like having Giannis and Brooke right there. And then you still got BP off the bench. Yeah, Brooke Lopez. Yeah. On me. Yeah, he be hooping. And they big as hell. Like having Giannis and Brooke right there and then Chris Miller and BP off the bench. Like you still like – Ruse and Robert Williams hurt the Celtics. They ain't going to have to kill Drew though. It's going to be a one-on-one matchup.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He going to have to play better than Drew. And that's one thing that people ain't accounting for, Drew. That's what's going to have to happen. Drew defense made a hell of a difference. He was still getting 20, so Dame got to get 30. And I was on the team when the Pelicans played trailblazers. I know you were. And Drew.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I knew you was about to say that. That's why I segwayed. Ooh-wee. That nigga Drew nasty, bro. Ooh-wee. Drew was on the bench. Dame was still out there looking for that nigga. Shit.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Nah, for sure, nigga. Nah, for sure. Nah, that nigga through, bro. I see that nigga. When I see that nigga rip a nigga, chest a nigga in stone. That nigga ain't normal, bro. He don't do that shit. Nobody move lateral like that nigga.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah, bro. Only nigga I seen move lateral like that was Avery Bradley. Avery Bradley. Oh, my goodness, bro. That nigga was an animal. Who a better defender, Avery Bradley. Avery Bradley. Oh my goodness, bro. Damn, that's crazy. That nigga was an animal. Who a better defender, Avery Bradley or Drew Holiday in prime? Yeah, you just take your pick, bro. Damn, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That nigga Avery Bradley. I'm going to go Drew just because. That nigga Avery Bradley. That nigga was in prime. That shit was retarded. Yeah, he would pick you up full court. Yeah, that shit was retarded. I'd never be able to pick up full court in my life, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:03 That nigga was at the. I said, hell no. He picked me up full court one time. I witharious. I never got picked up full court in my life, bro. That nigga was at the, I said, hell no. He picked me up full court one time. I passed that bitch. I went the whole time. I'm like, I got it.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I went to, I made it to half finally after getting spent like 10 times. Got to half. I said, everybody clear out. This ain't NBA.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I was with the Wizards new boss. I said, everybody clear out. I went at him. I'm tired as hell at this point. Shot that bitch in all
Starting point is 00:49:25 glass. This nigga just locked me the fuck up. Nah, that nigga was different, bro. Nigga, that nigga was guarding me hard. He was picking me up full court. He was guarding me so hard one time. They called a timeout in Boston playoffs. I couldn't even hear the timeout. The guy was still
Starting point is 00:49:40 trying to get by the nigga. He was still there. That nigga Larry Duvall, of course, had time. I was like, oh, shit. He was really like getting in your shit and looking up at you, like, nigga. Sliding and shit. It was crazy. I was like, this nigga here a demon, bro. It was.
Starting point is 00:49:56 You got to be a different nigga to play defense the entire time in the NBA. Man, he was retarded on defense, bro. For about four or five years, he for sure was just locking. Speaking of that Pelicans team, though though that's a really underrated thing you got to see the beginning before everybody really paid attention to it because y'all had killers on that squad i know man alvin gentry that's a raggedy right there oh man out but no you didn't have a dog ass team. Now you had some killers on that squad. Then it was Etuan, Rondo, Drew, me, and I ain't play. Then it was DeMarcus, AD. They was supposed to, y'all was supposed to win the shit.
Starting point is 00:50:35 They was supposed to have a ring, bro. Yeah, I had a squad, bro. That was a well put together team. BP really pushed Mirites out the league, man. He out of pocket for that. My nigga DeMarcus should've signed that contract. Don't do that, bro, don't do that. He did. Shout out to BP, my dog, my dog. But out the league, man. He out of pocket for that. My nigga DeMarcus should have signed that contract. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. He did.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Shout out to BP. My dog. But all basketball, though, bro. What tunes was you listening to before the game? Like, who was on some music shit? Who was you fucking with? Well, first, my nigga Willie Mack Jr., for sure. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Shout out to Willie. Yeah, we go Jay-Z. Nah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Fuck that. My nigga used to have a white Range Rover, right? Oh-Z. Nah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Fuck that. My nigga used to have a white range rover, right? Oh, talk about it. Oh, no, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I'm going to tell a story. That nigga pulled up over here. I had to challenge him. That nigga pulled up in a white range. That nigga said, white range, call this motherfucker Larry Bird, nigga. Fishbowl. That nigga said, fishbowl, nigga, so you can see me coming. Hey, yo.
Starting point is 00:51:24 That's crazy. That's crazy. Hey, yo. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Nigga, that's crazy. All right. But that nigga used to come. That nigga pulled up on me, fishbowl, nigga. I had just got my license and shit.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I ain't driving until I got drafted, brother. Legally. I was learning signs in Atlanta. Oh, that's when you started driving? That's why you was late to practice. Yeah. I was just done for sure. That nigga was a Cobb County blind That nigga didn't know where to yield
Starting point is 00:51:50 Hey I used to be like Y'all always seen that sign What? You know My nigga had that white red That nigga had that driving like a Mexican That's all
Starting point is 00:52:03 Man this nigga crazy man Shout out to my Shout out to the brown homies Shout out to my Latino people Espeyo Hey, that nigga out there driving like a Mexican. Man, this nigga's crazy, man. Shout out to my brown homies. Shout out to my Latino people. And Spaniel. Not too much on the lineage. Jose Cuervo. But now who else was you listening to?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Chill out, bro. Chill out, bro. Chill out, bro. My wife don't like that, bro. Shout out to the Fiesta Gang. You got Jay-Z. Who else was you bumping back in the day? Limp Hustle. Yeah, else was you bumping back in the day back then all right we can talk about the new chanel your city going crazy oh man yeah
Starting point is 00:52:39 what's that like out there detroit yeah like with that with the newcomers coming around peasy and it's too many it's so many you got peasy vezzo you got face you got skillet you got solder you got t-grids yeah i mean and i don't even know all the i ain't gonna care yeah all them hot but you know it finally you know it's finally our time type really liking the sound yeah taking advantage y'all had a big shine in the m and m but i feel like vezzo just bringing the whole new well that gang is bringing the whole new swag to detroit for sure yeah i mean it's for sure more the the you know they feel like they represent them you know the ones that's hot now they represent the city city you know okay so and it's a lot of different styles but it's kind of like they all got something kind of familiar yeah you could tell when i'm like a
Starting point is 00:53:24 from detroit he like that's a from detroit see the buffs but i used to say that with him though like that was different bro like because this really my so like we used to go to the mall like y'all know me i don't care about no clothes yeah my used to be like t we gotta go to the mall i'm like for what gotta get them truths i can be like the truth he's like yeah i'm telling this had every pair of fucking bro he's like yeah with the nike boots the gold domes jason you was a nasty that was the first first thing in the dress like an armed robbery the gold was the first black Air Force one. That nigga was dressed like Mr. Biggs in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I was finding myself. You know what I'm saying? I was finding myself. You know what I'm saying? That nigga had the Gucci belts and shit. I'm like, bro, I don't do that shit.
Starting point is 00:54:18 My nigga needed a big shake. Now, you were supposed to rap. Oh, God. I had buffs and all type of shit We used to cover
Starting point is 00:54:26 That nigga Like we used to all say That nigga swag on a thousand Nigga like That's hard though Yeah that's weird I'm getting zero minutes out here I'm trying to bag this chili
Starting point is 00:54:34 That she ain't feeling I gotta I gotta be a character I gotta be somebody That nigga was always on that But it was pressure I remember one time I went to the mall
Starting point is 00:54:43 With Joe, Mike, Bibby And like one of the other vets. Yeah. Car, it ain't work. Oh, them niggas was like, hey, young dog,
Starting point is 00:54:50 you want me to pay that shit for you? Like, my car wouldn't work when I went to all these. Yeah, my nigga maxing shit out on the Nike boots.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, for sure though. Hey, because True's wasn't cheap. No, no, no, nigga. Y'all don't beat nigga, I was a Levi nigga. I'm from here we rock levi's he's like now you gotta get them truths i'm like damn these motherfuckers 400. look at that like and you can't wear the same thing brown ones them hard two i need them like this bottom oh and it was holes that worked at true religion i'm like yeah let me get i'm gonna return them on sunday
Starting point is 00:55:27 let me get there my was coming new whips and all that man i was buying don't let it be modest yeah this was my whips and the trick-or-rule trigger we was going out though we got it got in free area, though. Nah, that's love. I know that was a whole different time back then, man. For sure. Great time, bro. So, how's it now with the crib? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:51 You got the pistons up and coming. You got the lines looking like they solid right now, man. What's going on with it, man? It's live out there. You know, we got the crib opening. You know what I'm saying? Down at the crib cafe. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah, for sure. But all that shit, the Pistons, I wanna see what they gonna do. They got a lot of niggas I like. Yeah, and the Lions, you know, we ain't wanna play our game in 30 years. As a Cowboys fan, I'm sorry, bro. We cheated y'all, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:16 We picked up the flag, bro. We cheated y'all. For sure. Don't worry about Cowboys. Cowboys trash. Them was too terrible to do right now. Them was too terrible to do right now. Hey, man, I don't wanna talk about that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They gonna make me hit this bottle one more time, man, I don't want to talk about that. They're going to make me hit this bottle one more time, man. Besides the big three in the cafe, what else you got going on? Shit, just, you know, make emotion. You know what I'm saying? We about to, you know, my brother podcast. We about to go to the, you know. We tapped into the high school players in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah, shout the podcast out, man. Shout out to Joe. Yeah, no blood, no foul, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy Fago Smooth. Yes, sir. You know what i'm saying shout out to my boy fago smooth yes sir you know what i'm saying vince and blood yeah but they got a podcast coming up we're trying to get like your y'all boys man you can collab yeah you know what i'm saying another hop on the highway to the detail yeah yeah yeah we need that we need that y'all gotta come check out y'all doing powder at the crib man y'all come check it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 We ain't going with us. With Sada. Shout out to Sada baby, yeah. We gonna make that move. Yeah. So did y'all do, Sada came here or something? Nah, we ain't got his shit. So we can pull up to the city and make it happen.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We got, we post a book of Pied with him. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'd be hard doing at the cafe. Nah, for sure, it is. Yeah, Sada, he be, he got his hands in everything, for sure. So I gotta ask you a little bit more about the big three. How is it, like, do y'all be having practices? Are you like, you just show up and get your shit off?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Or like, how is that setting? Because it look cool as fuck. It's real chill. It's chill. Like, you do a practice, you do a 20 minute practice the day before, like the day you fly in. You fly in the day before the game, do a little 20 minute practice.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And you ain't even gotta go for real. For practice. But yeah, you do that. Play the game. You can fly out right after the game or you can stay at night, fly out the next day. Flights are all first class. Cube doing his thing, man.
Starting point is 00:57:56 We in the hotel. What cities y'all be going to? Shit, we went to Miami, we went to Dallas. We went to Chicago. We went to London for the chip. Oh, big three, I'm on my way. I got some icy hot. I'm trying to get my schedule deal on some icy hot.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, he trying to come hoop off the schedule like Julius Randle. Man, listen, Jeff come and take that shit over, man. You come be part of the enemies though. You can't, you got the enemies. Nah, I will, but listen, Skechers got a new, they got basketball shoes now. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Go ahead and make your pitch bro. 100K for some Sketchers to hoop in the big three bro. I've been trying to do it. Sketchers, I do all the sweet shit on the court, niggas. Sketch, I do all the sweet shit. Y'all niggas come get me. For real. JC, what y'all talking about?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Don't sell your soul, bro. We wanna say thank you to JC for coming on the 520 podcast. You can't go from going on to Skechers, that's crazy. We gotta. I was rocking the big ballers in the league too. You know what I'm saying? I need the Skechers. You rocking the velour fit.
Starting point is 00:58:52 With the air one. Off the Skechers. That's a show. Arrest him. I told y'all. Arrest him. 100K plus. I'm Skechers, y'all signed me on a five year deal.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He's not wearing no Skechers bro. Max Dillon Skechers is crazy. Skechers, Jordan, Big 3 Coll. Y'all signed me on a five-year deal. He's not wearing no sketches, bro. Max Dillon's sketches is crazy. Sketches, Jordan, Big 3 Collab, y'all. Your knees already ain't worth it then. Sketches probably good for my knees. All right, motherfucker. Dion Sanders, you dig it? He take it too far all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:18 R.I.P. Dion told me. Fuck it. Who with their sketches? Y'all niggas out of pocket, bro. Y'all some raggedy niggas. You talking about 100K? They'll fuck your shit up, but I'm going to try it out. Ah, shit.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Fuck it. Y'all niggas about to be hooping this shape up. My shit already fucked good. That's like hooping in the strip shoes back in the day in East Bay. The fat ass hoes. Y'all about to be hooping the felines that look like pills, nigga. Look like Javi Profits. The park the park shoes what's wrong with you all the time bro that's the black forces bro they bring different types of energy out bro
Starting point is 00:59:56 oh man shout out to the game shout out to the game man on that note we're gonna get up out of here man shout out to jake man i appreciate it man that's it for sure man shout out hey shout out to the eatery one more time shout out the cafe so we can tell you oh craig cap craig cafe man you know what i'm saying we doing we're gonna do uh memberships too you know what i'm saying so yeah that's it yeah yeah no more membership yeah we ain't gonna let anybody get around you, man. Nah, man. This nigga here. Tell him he Hollywood. He on us. For real. For real.
Starting point is 01:00:27 That's the real Hollywood nigga. I keep telling y'all. Man, I be in the trenches, man. Oh, no. They power rankings is different. This nigga right here, boy. Shout out to the volume. He Hollywood as fuck.
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