Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Josh Okogie on Kevin Durant trade to Suns, playing with Jeff Teague, Chris Paul AAU team

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 35 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Josh Okogie of the Phoenix Suns to discuss all things NBA. Josh talks about playing for Chris Paul’s AAU team, going to Georgia Tech, and being selected in the 2018 NBA Draft. Josh tells hilarious stories about being a rookie on Jeff Teague’s Minnesota Timberwolves, finding out about Kevin Durant being traded to the Suns, and much more! Timeline:00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Getting drafted 06:00 - Afrobeats 08:00 - Josh learning to hoop11:40 - Playing with Harry Giles on CP3 AAU team15:30 - Getting recruited to Georgia Tech20:00 - Playing against Duke and UNC25:30 - Ben Simmons summer workout videos27:00 - Going to the NBA31:30 - Georgia Tech new coach34:10 - Best part about being in the NBA37:50 - Gambling becoming legal42:00 - Hooping in Africa45:30 - Finding out the Suns were getting KD50:00 - Playing in Minnesota with Jeff52:00 - Jared Bayless55:30 - Buying Jeff a used xbox on the road #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we're going to introduce my man's last, but to my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Hinn, out the prayer leaves. My nigga, how you what? Cool and nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Hey, you know, it's always going to be a sick episode when you got the hoodie on. People don't know that ain't really your swag. This ain't really my swag.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, Friday. No, Thursday, February 15th. Celebrity game hosted by Club 520 and Isador. Featuring a bunch of celebrities from, you know, around the country and shit. Then we got the following after party at All Stars Bar and Grill.

Pull up on us. Ticket links are in bio now. What kind of party is it at? Maybe. Uh, it's a freaky party. Freaky Mike.

Freaky Mike. Live on set. He'll be there with the camera. Shout out to all the ig girls coming in i won't say who flying them in but they'll be there shout out my job young nacho young t how you doing man i'm chilling man we got my guy in the build man hey you gotta introduce him, man. You know what I'm saying? That was your real. Nah, I would let you do your job, but.

Aw, see, look at niggas. I got these butter, though, man. I forgot to wear my phones once again. My bad, y'all. I've been coming for practice, so don't judge me. So it's just over with phones, basically. Yeah, I'll bring them back one time. I got a couple more left.

It's cool. They're going to be pissed. Fuck them. But to my left my dog NBA going crazy I like

the one thing I like about seeing him is like I saw him when he was on your team in Minnesota and like to see him now in a row especially

you on the cheating ass team now man doing your thing just see you on the internet last week catching bodies JL Josh Chicago appreciate you pulling up

to 520 my boy thanks for having me y'all man y'all see my boy he got Rolexes and shit. I remember when he was a young buck. That motherfucker want to leave his apartment. Now look at him. That boy shining.

You was dropping out of the studio rookie year? Nah, I picked the studio up this summer, bro. Oh, man. But I for sure wouldn't leave my apartment. Teague actually got me. You out the league now, so I kind of say no. Oh, yeah, everything. You're actually the one who got me out of my apartment, bro.

We had a thing. I think it was my second year in the league. We had a thing, like, you know what I'm saying? We was, we weren't that good. Oh, trust me. Minnesota doesn't like me. We had, like, a 14-game losing streak, 12-game losing streak in the same season. It was just bad.

Damn. Bad time. Minnesota Pistons. Nah, it wasn't that bad. No. They broke it up. They broke it up. No, no, no.

And they broke it up in the middle of that season. We weren't the Pistons. Yeah. We weren't the Pistons, though. Our problem was we would be good. We just couldn't finish games, bro. Yeah. We just couldn't finish games.

So T used to go out and i ain't never really been out so he's like one day he was like you know joe i'm gonna take you out man i'm like cool took me out you know we had a good time and then like airy city it should be so funny i used to sit in the back t sitting in the front he'll be like joe and he'll turn and look at me like this and i'll put my head in the aisle and we just give each other that look

pause and he'll just do this and that's how I know he's waiting for his text bro where we at tonight bro hey wife

that was some time ago I don't do that no more alright boy now we were sad like when we said you know how it be we had to have some type of fun

bro we was terrible I mean it wasn't no crazy like we was around a whole bunch of i'm not saying all that we were just outside the funniest one though we landed in houston one night and the ovo plane was outside back my head already in the aisle. I'm on the other side. No, we outside. No, man, we outside that plane. I'm already like, I'm already looking up front waiting for this nigga

to turn around and bust. I was like, hey, yeah, we outside. Oh, you already done. OVO playing

right there. Shit, Papi, we gonna beat it. For sure. Without an H down,

son. We was outside. Nice. J-O, we already started the show with a frog. Question for you.

You know what I'm saying? Since you've been spending time in the league. Okay. What's the craziest thing or, like, the craziest moment you've been a part of the NBA so far? Man, I've been a part of a lot of crazy moments. You've definitely been on some two nice teams. Man, I think there's two of them. One was when I when I got drafted with the Jimmy Jim, that was a crazy situation. That was just messy. As soon as I just got I just got

in a walk into the mill in the middle of it. And then I feel like last year when we we got Katie, that was crazy, too. Because I was trying to make sure I was still on the team. He was looking at that play like, I don't want to be in this train. Because, you know, when Rose tweet, it's just like one tweet, like, Phoenix Suns acquire Kevin Durant. I'm like, okay, cool.

Who the other team acquiring though? You know what I'm saying? So those two moments, I would say, like, they were, like, one of the biggest moments. Dang, that's crazy. You started your rookie year in Minnesota. How was that the first time y'all linked up? Because you was already there, obviously.

Yeah, it's crazy because I remember Tibbs. Tibbs was my dog. You know, me and Tibbs was tight. So when we was doing the draft process, I seen him play at Georgia Tech, and I seen the other rookie, which was Kata. They was debating on picking him or Kata at that spot. And I'm like, luckily we ended up getting both.

But I was like, nah, that nigga play hard. That's you, Tibbs. And he was like, yeah. Motherfucker run through a wall. And I was like. So I knew he was getting picked. So when I came there, I was already hyped to know him play. Because I knew who he was. Watched him play. Because it's came there, I was already hyped to know him, like, play. Because I knew who he was, watched him play.

Because it's me and Tibbs was looking at film over him. So I was like, came, introduced myself, and he was real cool. He was cool as shit. That's what's up, bro. I want to take you back to the beginning, though, bro. When did you come back, or when did you move to the States from Legos? Like, how much time did you spend there? Yeah, I was born in, you know, Legos, Nigeria.

I moved to the States when I was three. Oh, you ain't spent that much time. I ain't spent too, I don't even remember. I don't even remember, but I've been back a couple of times. So I know who's who when it comes to like extended family and kind of around the cities and stuff. But being born there, I don't remember. Are you tapped into the Afro beat world?

A thousand percent. Who's your favorite artist, bro? My favorite artist is Ash Hakan. I ain't heard of that. You got to, bro. He was number one in Afro beats last year. Like most listened to. For real?

Like Nigerian. Who you think got it cracking so far as like the blend from Nigeria to the States though,, to the U.S. Like, was it Wizkid? Was it? Who got that merge going? You got to go Wizkid. And the reason why I say Wizkid is because Wizkid been in the game, like, for a long time.

Like, I remember I was in eighth grade when we went to Nigeria for like winter break. I'm listening to Wizkid and that's eighth grade. That's when, I don't even know what year that was. 20, like 11, 2012. Yeah, that's around that time. So that was like 12 years ago. And he's still relevant. He was popping back then and he's still relevant.

That's when he had a song with Chris Brown. I can't think of the name of it, but he had a popper song as well. And then like, you know, when Drake 2016, I think it was 2016, did the one dance with Wizkid. That's when it started like transforming and transforming. I was like, we don't need like American artists no more to release music and be popular. Yeah, now you're number one for sure.

Yeah, Joe, he got to pull his car. He swear he the Afrobeats king. Nah, they call me Afrobeat Henny, bro. We'll tap in. Nah, for sure. Yeah, Joe, he got pulled his car. He swear he the Afro Beast King. They call me Afro Beat Henny, bro. We'll tap in. For sure. Who calls you that? The U2. I ain't heard that one.

Respect. Nah, but where did you start hooping, though? Funny story. My oldest brother, he, uh, ain't gonna lie. My house was boring as shit. Growing up, it was boring as hell. It was really nothing to do. My oldest brother,

he wanted to find out what he wanted to do. Like, if he wanted to play football, he was trying all different type of sports. So he bought a basketball goal, but never played it. And I went outside one day, and I was just like, shit, fucking let me try.

And ever since that one day on the driveway, I just fell in love with it. Okay, okay. When did you realize he was, like, shit, fucking let me try. And ever since that one day on the driveway, I just fell in love with it. Okay. When did you realize you was like really cold? When I started playing like organized basketball, I was playing some BS. When I started playing organized basketball, it was like sixth grade.

And I like, I was last one picked on a team. Only reason why I made the team is I was tall. Like I was this height for like a team. Only reason why I made the team is I was tall. I was this height for the longest. Damn. Yep. So they picked me up. I was 5'11", like the eighth grade. Six feet in the eighth grade.

They have a choice. They picked me up in the sixth grade just because I was tall. I didn't even practice with the team. That's how sad I was. First day of practice, they practicing. I'm on the side doing mic and drills. Fucking it up. And I was happy though,

cause in my mind I'm like, I've never received instruction before from like somebody who knows the game of basketball. So like, you know, you might see like, dang, like that's embarrassing. I wasn't embarrassed. I was having the time of my life doing mic and drill for an hour, five times a week.

You don't want to turn to a week. We got PTSD. He started breaking down the stats. Yeah, it's juvenile syndrome. But it was crazy because I got, I got so good,

so quick, like by seventh grade, the same team, because you know, it's sixth grade and then you become seventh grade. By seventh grade,

I was starting. I went from not playing in the sixth grade when, you know, like you get a blown out pause and the coach put all the sorry n was starting. I went from not playing in the sixth grade when, you know, like you get blown out and the coach put all the sorry niggas in. I still wouldn't get in.

I would never forget this. We beat a team 48 to 8. Damn. I didn't play. Coach C, were you satisfied? Coach C, what'd you do?

He would've got in, bro. He would've got in. I ain't gonna name drop. He would've been on that bench fucking with him. We ain't gonna do that. Finish your in, bro. He would have got in. I ain't going to name drop. He would have been on that bench fucking with him. We ain't going to do that. Finish your story, J. But by that seventh grade, I was starting. I was one of the best players on the team.

So it took a year. And I learned real quick and then just kept elevating from there. So they was grooming you to be a center or you always been groomed to be a PG low? Nah, they was I played post. I ain't come out that post to to like CP3?

11th grade for real. Damn. 11th grade is when I, but I was, I wasn't like a post like a I was like a Giannis. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to compare myself to Giannis. I was like a Giannis I'm not trying to compare myself to say I'm a Giannis I was like a Giannis in the sense where

perimeter wise I'm not out there shooting trades but if I get the rebound there's not people looking at me like I initiated the offense because usually the other center would be on but I was always fast so the other center used to guard me and I'd just go by them and as soon as somebody come out and pass the ball to the shooter so on, but I was always fast. So the other center used to guard me, and I'd just go by him,

and as soon as somebody come out, I'm passing ball to shooters. So it was like I was a post player. I didn't shoot threes, but I could dribble, and I could pass, and I could finish. So you was a wing on that CP3? But at CP3, I was a wing.

But by that time, I had already established I could jump out, shooting jumpers, trays, pull-ups. What other league players was on your team? It was me, Harry Giles, and Grant Williams. So you never played with Theo? No, I never played with Theo. Harry Giles was... High school phenom.

That's probably one. After injuries, high school phenom. I'm not going to say one. That was the best player I've had as a teammate in high school. Man, he was crazy. He was unreal. His highlight tapes on Instagram was legit. I remember my first time, because I had to

leave my EYBL team to go to CP3 because I was originally with Southern Stampede, and I moved to CP3 and they were like, look, if you go to CP3, ain't no coming back. But I ain't like the team, so I'm like, man, I'm just going to bet on myself. I'm going to go head to this. They didn't really have tryouts,

but it was practice to see if they thought you was a fit for the team. So I went there, you know, went out there to practice in North Carolina. And,

you know, we run it. They told me to go set a screen for Harry. I'm like, set a screen for Harry? I ain't set, I don't,

I don't really set screens. You know what I'm saying? They said, you back to your lineage. It was like, they said, go set a screen for Harry. I ain't set, I don't, I don't really set screens, you know what I'm saying? They sending you back to your lineage. It was like, they said go set a screen for Harry, so I'm like,

it's coach, I'm in a new environment, so I gotta listen. Yeah. So I set a screen for Harry, and they came through, snaked that bitch. Oh!

I told them to look, bro, how many screens? You fucking need, bro. What the fuck? That shit was impressive, bro. He had MVP that season. We ain't losing. We lost like one or two games.

We were regular season champs. Look it up. We lost on some bullshit to Jason Tatum's team in the Final Four. That game on YouTube. Yeah. It was crazy. I remember it was a tie game. And CP, you know, he coaching his ass off.

He like, no matter what we do, we're going to take the last shot of the game. He drawed a play up for Harry. Harry went a little early, left hook, hit that motherfucker. They called timeout. We up two with three seconds left. So we all thinking this shit about to go to Jason. Everybody in tennis is on Jason. Man, I don't even know his name.

They had a point guard. He just dribbled like five times down the right side of the court and shot it. And then one of our players contested and he like double clutched it. It's about half court. And I'm under the goal

and I'm looking at the trajectory of that whole shit. I'm like, bro, this motherfucker is cash. Nothing but that. Game over. We done. Yeah, bro, that motherfucker got a hell of a million views on YouTube.

I don't know exactly what you're talking about. That's going to get blasted by the Georgia Stars, bro. Who else was on Jackson Tatum's team? I think it was just him. Daniel. He didn't team up. He would. He played with somebody else in high school, though, too.

Another league nigga. But I think they only came together for a couple tournaments. And I had, like, a similar role on that team. I used to guard the other team best player, right? And, you know, I guarded Malik Monk. He was cold. Malik Monk was cold. Malik Monk, I think he might have played with him.

Nah, Malik Monk was Arkansas. I know, but I think, damn, I can't think who Jason played with. Jason was probably, like, the only player at that age where I would say like his footwork was so ahead of damn like he would post up

mid post got the I'm like bro I don't know which way this nigga about to go yeah he would he would call it high school for sure

I think he was doly on his St. Louis team y'all played in St. Louis yeah St. Louis yeah St. Louis Eagles

Eagles that's what it was called yeah I think he was the best player you played this summer? In? AAU? Yeah. Most advanced.

I respect that. Probably the most advanced player. I'm trying to think who else was on that circuit. Miles Bridges was pretty good too, though. Yeah. Yeah. He was just bigger and stronger than everybody when we was younger. Athletic as hell.

He just move out the way. You can't do nothing. Yeah. He was cold. Like I said, Malik Monk was cold. Facts. That nigga had so much bounce. He did.

His high school mixtape is a sleeper too. It's all just going crazy. Straight. High school Smith. He was J.R. Smith in high school. Well's all just going crazy. High school Smith. He was J.R. Smith in high school. Well, still is, didn't he? For sure. That's a great NBA comparison.

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But obviously you was killing it in high school and got time to make some college decisions. We know you went to Georgia Tech, but if you didn't, what was the school that almost got you? Tennessee. You and Grant? We actually went on our visit together. Oh, man.

But you could tell they love Grant a little more than they love everybody else. It was like four of us. It was like four of us. It was like four of us. We all went together. That was like Rick Barnes' first recruiting class at Tennessee. So he was like, you know, he wanted to get like a recruiting class, be like the face of his program, whatever.

So it was me, Grant, this dude named Jordan Bone, who actually ended up going there and I remember a dude named Derriante Jenkins he actually went to VCU so we all went there and I was just like

man they showed so much love I that's one thing that I never really felt was like that college feel like

Tennessee you know what I'm saying and I and I love that part and I love it it wasn't far from you know what I'm saying and I love that part and I love it when I'm far from you know the crib it was like a two two and a half three hour drive but then when I went to Georgia Tech

I didn't want to go they were wearing Russell facts yeah why do they somebody went to Georgia Tech yeah he Georgia Tech alum so they had Russell hard I think, yeah. Georgia Tech alum. Yeah, he, Georgia Tech alum. So they had Russell, hard-ass classes. You know, growing up being an adult now, I'm like, that shit didn't matter. But when you're a little kid, you're not trying to take all those hard-ass classes

that you got over there. Yeah, facts. I was just like, huh? Damn. But then when I thought about it, I'm like, they were graduating like seven seniors. And then I'm like, damn, I might have a chance to play, start. You know what I'm saying? Then I'm playing Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, all these schools.

I'm like, if I have two good games against these motherfuckers, I'm going to be straight. That's how I'm thinking. So I'm like, man, fuck the classes. Fuck the Russell. Come on, let's do it. Fuck the Russells, Chris. Fuck the Russells. That's how I'm thinking. So I'm like, man, fuck the classes. Fuck the Russell. Come on, let's do it. Fuck the Russells. Fuck the Russells. Fuck the Russells.

I'm nothing on wearing Russell, but. But they said, you know, they sold it. They're like, but you can still wear Nike shoes. Yeah, yeah. I over-exaggerate. This is the germs. Nah, I ain't gonna lie, bro. But the team gear is crazy.

With the R, bro, that's nasty. I mean, like, it was baggy. Like, it didn't fit at all. So you was already fashionable by the time you got there I didn't care I just wanted a hoop but you know you a kid

you still wanna wear like Nike you sell for Adidas for any reason so he ain't got no Nike tics they got Russell he got spoiled

his ass was in the EYBL oh yeah he had that shit playing with TTP3 but TTP3 was different though cause we used to get all the EYBL shit yeah and we'd get all the

Jordan shit. That shit was love. So you went from that to Russell. Ain't that a damn shit. He playing, dude. Them niggas got dry fit. He got a Russell. But I was really mad, though, because all our gear was red. Like, our team color was red.

So everything we had was red. So I come to the gym one time all red on. I'm thinking, I'm stuttering. My coach was like, take that shit off. I'm like, what? Andting. My coach was like, take that shit off. I'm like, pause. And I was like, what you mean? He was like, you know, our rivals at Georgia, we don't wear red on campus. That's my whole closet is red. He's either

I'm wearing some nice red shit, or I got the bad shit. I got the bullshit that I had in high school. So I'm like, bruh. So I just had to rock with the Russell. And then they were stingy with the Russell gear. Oh, yeah. I'm what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah.

I'm going to take you out and plug you. You want to take me out and plug you with the Russell? J.O. is the main flutters. If you go ahead and plug me with the Russell, I'll put this on everything, bro. If we go where, Russell, you got to flood us with Russell bags. Bro, you was too small, bro. You brought me in for Russell.

Like, yo, can I please get some extra compression shorts? You had the essential. Come on. You don't even get enough compression shorts. I know I got no chance with the shirts and the sweats. I just want some extra socks, coach. Oh, and a crew manager. It was bad.

I was trying to be ethical. Try the Georgia Tech. Man. I mean, they're Adidas now, so I can talk all the shit I want. Oh, they're Adidas. I was about to say that Russell shit was crazy. The year I left, the next year, they're Adidas. I was about to say, that Russell shit is crazy. The year I left, the next year, they were Adidas. You made the best college choice because the SEC wasn't really cracking back then.

And also, Tennessee, they had like hella sophomores, hella juniors when I was going in. So I was like, I'm all about competition. You know, I love to compete, but I'd rather go somewhere else where the odds are more in my favor. And as soon as I got there, it was like I was rolling. So it was, like you said, it was the best decision. For sure, bro. Shout out to Russell. Shout out to Russell.

And the ACC was the best conference in basketball by far at that point. But I got to ask you, how was it like playing in Cameron Indoor? Like, how was it like playing in, what's the USC shit? It's not the Dean Dome, is it? Yeah, it's the Dean Dome. Like, how was it playing in them, playing in them like historic places? Cuz like you don't get that everywhere in college basketball. Okay, so Cameron Endor and the Dean dome are two hostile environments, but I rather play I'll say that well, I rather play because I don't I don't really doesn't matter to me but Dean dome was less hostile. Facts.

And why I say that is, like Cameron Indoor has, it holds 3,000 people. You taking that ball out of bounds, they scratching your neck. Like you- That's crazy. The floor bounce. Like it's loudest, because it's small. It's not, I mean, it's popular, but it's not as big as you might think, bro. Yeah. I didn't realize that until I got older. Like seeing it on TV, I'm like, damn. And I got older, I was like, damn, that's a little, that's small. It's not, I mean, it's popular, but it's not as big as you might think, bro. Yeah, I didn't realize that

until I got older. Like, seeing it on TV, I'm like, damn, and I got older, and I was like, damn,

that's a little, that's small. It's very small, but the guest locker room, everything, it's like AAU. Damn. But then Cameron,

I mean, not Cameron, the Dean Dome is huge. So it's like, they're yelling and they loud as hell, but they like, back there.

Like, you're not even worried about them for real. Like, they yell, it's like echo. They're like, yeah, worried about them for real. Like they yell, it's like echo. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was still hot, it's still loud, but it's just like over there. But like, it's like you're feeling like they're right behind the bench.

Like they are right behind the bench. It was crazy. And then the team, the teams that they had at the time made it worse too. Because when I played, because I didn't play in the Dean Dome until my sophomore year. And I played in Camden during my rookie year, my freshman year. But my freshman year, they had...

Boy, we got smack, bro. We didn't tell them to start laughing. They had Frank Jackson Grayson Allen on one wing shooting they be flopping

Grayson Allen coming off one way Luke Kennard coming the other way Harry Giles sent one screen Jason Tatum then they got

Emile Jefferson who's 24 but I was 17 in college shout out to Emile I actually ended up meeting Emile Jefferson, who's 24. I was 17 in college. Shout out to Emile. I'm actually ending up being Emile. Emile's good as fuck. But he was 24.

Facts. I just turned 25. He had helicopter years. Facts. Man, I play with Emile. I'm like, bro. But they were really good, bro. And we got smacked by, I remember I put on my Instagram,

because we was on ESPN. I'm like, yo, tune in ESPN. I deleted that shit at halftime, bro. I snuck my phone in and deleted that tune in shit at halftime. I need to delete history at halftime. I'm like, man, wherever I've been seeing this shit,

I'm turning this shit off, bro. And the thing is, we had a good game, but it was just like, that was a protein. It was like, we would hit a two, we had a good game. But it was just like. That was a pro team. It was. Like, we would hit a two. They hit a three.

We turn the ball over. They hit a three. We hit a free throw. One for two. They hit a three. We scored three to nine. And we ain't really doing nothing bad. And that's how the whole game.

But I think they scored 100 points, bro. Damn. In college. Now it's like, whatever. But back then, bro. That's a lot. That's a lot now, bro. 100 points whatever but back then bro that's a lot that's a lot now 100 points in college

bro that's a lot now my nigga y'all gotta see if y'all can get I don't remember what the score was it was 100

it was 100 and we scored like 50 50 something 100 what you have what you have I don't remember bro

I think I had like I don't think I had more than 15. Something like that. But you know, when you get beat by that bad, like stats don't even matter, bro. At all. It don't matter what you beat.

I could have had 30. This shit don't, nigga. This shit don't matter. Trust me. I got beat like that the other day. Tell us more. Don't worry about it. We scored two points in the first quarter

nah real shit yeah it's high school team it's true story how do you balance that though it wasn't no balance it was like I said how you balance

like the coaching like how did cause I seen somewhere like a couple years ago it said that you you coaching high school I was like damn

I can't picture Teague as a coach with like kids bro funny comical jokes but I know Teague but you know Teague I feel like he a like, kids, bro. Funny. Comical. Jokes. That's all it is. But I know Teague. But, you know, Teague, I feel like he a real, like, I feel like I know he a real good nigga.

So I know, like, he out there trying to make a difference in the kids' life. But I just couldn't. Can't see. I can't see it, though. Yeah. He's trying his hardest. It ain't nothing to see. He's trying his hardest, bro.

I promise you it ain't. But my nigga ain't losing his hair, man. I'm a little worried, man. We ain't that bad, but we bad. But we'll be all right. Speaking of coaching, hey, Big 3, what his hair, man. I'm a little worried. We ain't that bad, but we bad. But we'll be all right. Speaking of coaching, hey, Big 3, what's up, man? I don't know why they put that out there like that. Yeah, they just dropped that.

Yeah, they should have let me warm up a little bit first, man. At the press conference. Nah, I'm like, damn, why they do me like that, Q? What team you going to be on? I don't know. I get to pick my team a little bit. I'm trying to call Paul Millsap. Answer my call, Paul.

Damn, Paul. I need some call, Paul. Damn, Paul. I need some Hawks connections. Man, Paul's so cold. Cold, ain't he? Man, he the first guy. You know, I live in Atlanta in the offseason. And so does he. He the first guy I ever seen dominate open run with barely shooting.

Yeah, he different. You know, in the summer, that's when you get your rocks. That's when you go crazy. You shoot all the shots you ain't get to shoot in the season. Oh, yeah, mixed that time. You're going to see that in the summer. He ain't do all that, bro. He post his spin move, shoot it, like, doing all this,

setting screens, rolling. We like, bro, I've never seen no shit like that in my life, bro. Nah, that nigga is cold. That nigga is cold. And then when you do shoot it's a bucket for sure facts cold

one of the coldest shout out to Ben Simmons his mixtapes in the summer be crazy bro I'm not getting into that bro gold it

bro gold it every summer I see Ben Simmons trying to hit threes and I'm like yes let the propaganda begin cause we're not gonna see any of that shit

for the next nine months gold it facts he's not gonna even play what I will say about Ben Simmons, though, I think he be trying, though, like, to get healthy.

Nah, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I seen him. I ran into him in the gym. He, like, and we worked out. We worked out like an hour increments.

So, like, when I come in the gym, it's like the last 15 minutes of somebody else's workout. Yeah. We came in to work out at the same time. I'm thinking, I'm about to work out with this nigga. Nah, he spent that hour, like, on the table, like, just getting ready for his workout after mine.

You know what I'm saying? So I was like, damn, like, two things. Either his shit really fucked up or, like, he really trying to get back, bro. So shout out to him for trying. I ain't going to get into all the other stuff. Oh, yeah. Because I know how that shit is as a player. back, bro. So, shout out to him for trying. I ain't gonna get all the other stuff. Oh, yeah. I know how that shit is as a player, bro.

Nah, nah. It's bullshit because realistically, you can tell, like, he not faking. And that's the thing I don't like about it. I mean,

say what you want to about the situation, but you can tell that nigga not faking it. When it comes to certain stuff like back injuries and stuff like that, that's, like,

really severe. Like, you should look at with Steve Kerr and, like, Phil Jackson. He's sitting there cheering coach, bro.

He want somebody to hoop. Yeah, he had to take and coach, bro. You want somebody to go hoop? Yeah, they couldn't. Yeah, he had to take time off, bro. Yeah, bro. And he's not even hooping. Come on. Nah, back is crazy. Back injuries.

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oh shit nah I ran into some it's too long of a story to tell right now but I ran into some trouble in college okay and um

I ain't like the way the school handled that at all like I feel like I got thrown under the bus yeah I mean I take my part in what I did at the end way the school handled that at all. Like, I feel like I got thrown under the bus. Yeah. I mean, I take my part in what I did. At the end of the day, I did it.

You know what I'm saying? But, you know, they came to me and they were like, you know, let's walk you through it so we can, you know, find the best way to go about this. So it helps you. It helps the school. Man, I told them everything. And they just, it's like I was talking to NCAA myself.

They just shit right in front of you. And then, like, I ended up getting suspended, like, the first six games of my sophomore year, and then I ended up getting hurt in the exhibition game. I dislocated my finger, and the bone came out the skin. Damn. So that actually made me miss the first eight games of my sophomore season. So when I came back, I came back mad.

Just like, you know what? I ain't come back to this school next year. That's how I was just blocked. I'm just gonna play like I don't wanna come back. And then after my season, I'm like, bro, cause my name entering the year, cause I did the USA under 18 team. Yeah, select 19 team.

Yeah, after my freshman year, I got invited to that. So then after I did that, my name was on the, you know, in the boys and stuff. So going into my second year, I'm looking, I'm 23. Supposed to be going to Utah or something. I think it was 23 to Utah. So like every day I'm in the gym, I'm like, one extra rep. I was a head ass like that.

Like, if I got five line drills, I'm going to do six. If I got- Oh, my mama, that's him. That's him, that's him. You know what I'm saying? I was locked in like that. You just tapped in. Yeah, so, so.

And then after, that was before I went through what I went through. And then right when that stuff happened, I was like, yeah. My name was off. I feel like they wiped my name off the surface of the planet. Like, you couldn't find my name on nothing. And not that I was looking at it as like, oh, if it's not there, it ain't going to happen. But it's still good to see your name every once in a while on the board.

So I stopped looking at the boards, and I'm just going to put my head down, work, and that's what I did my sophomore year. And then after the season, I'm just like, you know what? I'm just going to go ahead and get up out of here. Damn. How was your draft process? Like, did you work out for, obviously, you know what I'm saying, you probably worked out for a lot of teams. Was there a different team you thought you was going to go ahead and get up out of here. Damn. How was your draft process? Did you work up for it? Obviously, you're probably working for a lot of teams.

Was there a different team you thought you was going to end up with? Nah. See, what happened was I had a great draft process. Actually, I was hooping in every single one that I was in. The only one I didn't hoop in was Atlanta. I didn't hoop in Atlanta at all. You weren't trying to be a hawk? Is that where you wanted to go though?

Man. I know you did. And they had pick 19. I went 20. They told me to go back to school. Damn. Damn, for real? Yeah, they told me to go back to school.

They was like, what's the rush? You still got two years. Damn. Two years left. You thought they would be familiar with you being in that close of proximity. But I bombed. I ain't gonna lie't allowed to bomb the shit out of that workout. Nah. They had us there at eight in the morning, but the workout ain't start until like 11.

Damn, who was the GM there? Was it, uh... I can't tell you. I ain't know nobody. I know who it was. Was it solo workout too? Nah, it was still six people. Damn.

It was six people. But did all that testing, testing that we just chill, had breakfast. Damn, we worked out. But that time, I'm just like, I've been in the gym four hours

and didn't touch no basketball. I don't know if they did that. They probably did that on purpose. That's the setup, man. Yeah. You got to see if you come in focused, man, if you can keep your mind right

while they got all that shit going on. What does that translate to though? Like, during the season, at what point were you being in the gym for four hours without teaching basketball

and then just go out there and go hoop? They just try to mentally break you. And that's so crazy because like, like CJ Stroud, when they were talking about him and the poor testing and stuff, what gives a fuck about a test

if you can do your job right? Yeah. I've seen that too. I'm like, the testing? Yeah. I like what he said, though. Like, I don't do tests. I play football. Yeah. Facts. What are we doing? He proved that too. I'm like, the testing. Yeah. I like what he said, though. Like, I don't do tests. I play football.

Yeah. Facts. What are we doing? He proved that shit. He did. Oh, my goodness. Nah, for real. And he had swag doing it.

And he felt, like, his poise was like, he been doing this for a minute at the NFL level. That's what I like about it. He took over a franchise. And low-key, I mean, we got to see what's up with A. Rich. I think Anthony Rich is going to come back solid. But he low-key took over a division because before this year,

they was all talking about Trevor Lawrence. We ain't heard Trevor Lawrence's name since. That's a good point. I mean, Georgia Tech got a new coach, Damon Stoudemire. How you feel about the pickup? I feel good, man, because the thing about Tech, right, and I've talked to Damon, too. I, you know, seen him this summer

when I was in the gym hooping. I've obviously seen him in the league when he used to coach with the Celtics. Jordan Tech need a, need a coach. And I'm pretty sure his X's and O's are, you know,

what they are. I'm not, I'm not even talking about his X's and O's. They just need a coach that got some pull. Yeah. That know people.

You know what I'm saying? It's not like, our school's already hard to get in. It's hard to stay people, you know what I'm saying? It's not like our school's already hard to get in. It's hard to stay in. You know what I'm saying? And, um, kids don't kids. Like,

like I said, I dealt with that shit too. I know how it is as a kid. Like, man, I gotta, I do this work. And I was always a good student.

Like my GPA was high in school. I was always smart, but just having to like, man, I gotta put, you just want to hoop as a kid i don't want to have to go to class and do this essay and be hard as hell you know what i'm saying so but if i know i'm gonna play for a coach who got some league connects who who cool been in my shoes played in the league

did all that stuff i'm like i might be able to be like okay i'm gonna have i'm gonna deal with the with the school because i can play for that coach i mean we ain't had that type of coach in a long time. That's real. Yeah. And like you said, if you, now you got Adidas now, it's different when you go to a college and you either got that big brand pool

or you got it from the coaches, got the connections. You went there, you had a coach who did, made all the resources and it was Russell. So you really made that shit work. And he know, like he's been around the league for a long time. So he know what like league level stuff look like. Like our lounges and our stuff, our facility, it ain't like, that's the first thing he's been around the league for a long time so he know what like league level stuff look like like our lounges and our and our stuff at our facility it ain't like that's the first thing

he's saying like man that's what y'all should look like i'll go there now it should looks nice like he he broke all that shit down like he broke all that shit he put new shit up there like the now just look good the shit actually got snacks like Like, when I was in college, like, I knew when we had a recruit in town, there was snacks in the lounge. Like, you go there, some Powerade. Like, oh, yeah, who in town today? We got Powerade. That was the delicacy of Georgia Tech.

That was what Wake was on, too. That was what Wake was on, too? Yeah, that was on there, too. Man, I'm like, we got Powerade today. Oh, yeah, we got a recruit in town. Them shits lasted two days. They need to destroy that drink. That's probably the worst sports package ever.

I had a big Powerade the other day. That shit was pretty good, bro. Hell, he was out of power. That's all fucking Pike. Serve at them damn basketball games. That might be all, nigga. Y'all remember Allsports? The drink?

Yeah, them was trash, too. Damn, you ain't fucking Allsports? Allsports was solid. I ain't top them with them. They used to be a thing, but those was too. Damn, you ain't fuck Osweiler? Osweiler was solid. I ain't top 10 with them. That used to be a thing, but those was trash. Damn, whacked. So going through that draft process, making it to the league, you know, played in Minnesota.

I was there with your rookie year. Like, what's the best part about being an NBA player? Like, fuck all the other shit. Like, you living your dream. But what's the best part of it? I feel like the best part for me because i'm big on community the best part for me is seeing the influence you have on people right and it's funny that you're a high school coach that's what i want to do when i'm done playing to be a high school

coach because it's like i know like kids man they face a lot of problems these days and you know a lot of them don't even be their fault you know their kids but one bad decision can change the course of their life

and you know I was one time I told this kid I was like bruh bruh don't do that he still takes me to date bruh I'm so glad

that you told me not to do that like I'm like damn I don't even I didn't even think it meant like it meant

that much to him you know what I'm saying but seeing it had a positive impact on somebody and not saying that he would be in a bad position now if he did do it, but like just seeing that, like that, for me, that's the best part about being in the league. Yeah.

That's the worst part. The worst part about being in the league, I would say is like, people don't think you human. Yeah, they treat you like a, like, if I go,

like, I play video games. If I go stream, first thing they gonna say on the stream is, you ain't shooting threes. Why are you, why are you playing video games? You should be in a gym.

I'm like, it don't work like, like, this shit don't work like that. Everybody got work hours, nigga. It don't work like, like, bro, I seen like that. Everybody got to work their ass, nigga. It don't work like that. Like, bro, I seen you talking about, I seen one of y'all podcast.

You told somebody, man, go to sleep. Yeah, bro, like, don't get through so much of your life. He's like, man, I don't sleep. I work out. I be in the gym. I be. And I think, you know, obviously people look at, you know, when everybody think about, like, working hard, the first person that comes to your mind is, like, Kobe and the Mamba mentality. You know what I'm saying?

But I think there's a big difference between not working hard and being in the gym. Like, there's a spectrum. Yeah. It is, bro. It's tears, bro. Yeah, just because you're not, like, it's because you're playing video games don't mean you're in the gym. Yeah. And it's because you're in the gym don't mean you can you can't have a life yeah that's the one thing there when my

rookie derrick rose told me this he was like he was like the last i asked him i'm like yo what's your biggest regret in basketball and he told me he was like my biggest regret is when i was you know coming up i didn't give times to a lot of things that mattered in my life. Like I was so involved in life. My people going to like a concert, I wouldn't go because I want to go to the gym. Or if I wanted to do this, I wouldn't go because I want to go to the gym. But then you go, you fast forward 10 years and all your homies and your family, they having all these memories.

You were never a part of no memories. That's right. It's because you're in the gym and yeah, you're getting better. But just I could have missed because you're in the gym and yeah you're getting better but I could have missed that and still did the gym I mean I could have went to the events

and still went to the gym but I was just focused on thinking that if I did do the concert if I did do that it would take away from basketball and that was never the case

that's what he told me I ain't miss a concert I was at every concert in the motherfucking state for a minute where it was called Phillips Arena back there I ain't miss a concert. Nigga, I was at every concert at motherfucking State Farm Arena. Where it was called? Phillips Arena back there. I ain't miss a shot. I should've been in the gym.

But it come with it though, bro. Man, you get your ass on that stream, it's a motherfucker coming, see? That's why that nigga missed all them shots. Yeah, that's why he missed all that. That nigga fucked up my parlay

because he played too good. You got out at the right time. These niggas with the parlays now? Nah, he done. Them niggas booed me in Milwaukee because I grabbed a rebound from Bobby Portis. I'm thinking,

they start chanting, Bobby, Bobby. I'm looking like, they like, T, you fucked it up. You fucked it up. I'm like, what the fuck up? I got two rebounds.

Man, now that that ban is illegal in so many more states, bro. I mean, I'll tell you a story. I ain't gonna tell you what teammate, bro. One of my teammates, the nigga got in at the end of the game, scored four straight.

He was probably in the game for like, I don't know, a minute, scored four straight. He was probably in the game for like, I don't know, a minute, scored four points, got to it. He got a DM. And he barely played. I know who it is.

He got a DM. He was like, why did you score? They went, and they told it, no cap. The DM was like, why did you score?

You're the reason why I'm still racist. I'm like, what? When niggas don't score, it's a problem. When niggas score, it's a problem. I think he said it's a problem. Because I guess he fucked up the spread or something. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know.

I know. But that's what I'm saying, though. He went in the game, and he did his thing. He did his job. He did his thing. But he scored 100% from the field. Shout out to that black man.

But he is fucking up. That person that said that to him, fuck them. But your man's getting there. The four points, he need his asshole from scoring the four points. Because he probably fucked up a lot of points. He did.

With the pointless ass four points. But he looking at it like, look, when you at that type, I ain't going to say that type of play, but when you a player who don't play a lot, every minute you play is precious. Because if you get four points, coach might be like, okay, you might get like four minutes of garbage time next time. You score 10 points. Then niggas might knock on wood. It might be a situation okay, you might get like four minutes of garbage time next time. You scored 10 points.

Then niggas might knock on wood. It might be a situation when a lot of people aren't playing and coach like, okay, he has scored

that four points. He's scored them 10 points. People ain't playing. Coach put a little bit, has a little bit of trust, throw him out there and maybe coming off the bench. Now he going crazy,

but that started because of that game he had four points. No, J.O., look, I'm totally on your side. I know,

but I got fourlay, man. That's your points, man. But y'all gotta understand why niggas be tight. Niggas be on edge and that's why niggas be thinking the shit is red because it's like,

y'all didn't even think about putting this nigga in the game. This nigga in the game to score four points. But also, if you do Parlay's, use DraftKings.

That's fair. That's fair. Shout out to them. Niggas bet on me all the time, bro. I be telling my neighbors, I say, look, if y'all bet on me, do not let me know, bro, because they be trying to tell me, J.O., that

three you missed in the third quarter? I'm like, bro, don't tell me about no, I don't want to hear no bets. Don't come to me about no advice. Yo, but what's your usual though, bro? Are you plus, what? What are you? I tell you what, bet the under. So I can have a good game in this bitch.

Hey, she be like my boy LSU. He ready. What he do? What he do? Oh my gosh. Yes, bro. He went up half a mil, bro. Like 600K in earnest, bro.

What? They just caught his ass and arrested him. They just caught him. He a mil, bro. Like 600K in earnest, bro. What? They just caught his ass and arrested him. They just caught him. He got arrested, bro. I downloaded FanDuel. No, he played football. Oh, he was wild. Yeah, he played football.

And he played with the Patriots. They caught him after he did that. They caught him after, bro. He was up 500 bands, bro. That's crazy. But I watch football all the time. So I'm like, I'm about to start betting on this shit. And it's football.

I downloaded FanDuel. Made an account. The next day, they suspended my account and said, we got to verify, send a picture with your name or your ID and the date. I'm like, I ain't finished sending FanDuel a selfie, bro. So I'm like, bro. I'm probably going to do DraftKings.

You got to use the burner account. No, don't do that. No, just don't bet at all. That's why I don't bet. No, for real though, because like, because working for the Pacers they do a monthly thing they send your name

through a database and if your shit come up it is non-negotiable we don't give a fuck what it is you out the door so even if you bet on like football

if you on nah you can do other sports you just can't do anything NBA related I mean that's across the board you can't bet on

NBA WNBA G League you can't bet on WN across the board you can't bet on nba wba g league you can't bet on wba huh no you can't nba wba 2k league nba and there's one more there's something that's that's fucking crazy the basketball league oh okay i think that whatever in the nba owns you can't yeah i couldn't get him on jayco jayco the real one to do it we didn't put him in the game on J. Cole? Take the under. J. Cole the real one to do it. We didn't put him in the conversation.

That nigga was over there 16 games and came back home. Facts. No, I ain't gonna lie, but you gotta love basketball to go to Africa to go hoop when you come to the United States. And I'm...

You can't say that. No, no. You can't. You can't say that. I can't say it because I've hooped in Africa. I've been there, bro, and I've hooped and I've hooped in Africa, bro.

What's it like to hoop in Africa? Bro, I kid you not. So, see, y'all making this up. Y'all making this up. I wasn't even trying to make it, bro. I'm trying to tell you the conditions, bro. It's different. Oh, my God. No, bro. Oh, my God.

No, we're not doing this. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, bro. You know what, Josh? Fuck that. Take your black ass back to Nigeria when you done hooping and coach high school basketball over there.

No, what I'm saying, bro. This is what I am saying, bro. This is what I am saying, bro. This is what I'm saying. Because y'all trying to be honest. This is the conditions, bro. What's the conditions, bro? I'm saying the conditions. I'm not saying nothing other than basketball.

Like, I'll give you a perfect example. We had like an Olympic qualifying tournament in Nigeria, right? So they set up the court in a convention center. For sure. And they put hardwood on carpet. They did that here before. Yeah, we had it. But like, okay, but this is to get to the Olympics.

This shit, that shit want to get to the damn Olympics. But y'all got a different type of build, bro. Some of the strongest people come from your homeland. A thousand percent, bro. I feel like if we are able, and that's why I love what, you know, what the NBA is doing, investing in Africa with the Bachelor Africa League. Because I feel like if you can get, like, there's a lot of players in Africa who have given a fair chance.

But if the conditions we have here, if you take that over there, it's going to be Embiid, Giannis' every year. Every year, bro. I kid you not. But it's just so, and basketball is not really like a fan favorite over there. You know, soccer. Yeah, soccer.

You know what I'm saying? So because it's not, you're not going to see a lot of people putting their money into development in basketball. No, no, facts, facts. That's why you seen that one kid. I know he went viral. He be working out.

Like he got like the tires and like the water jugs and. He'd be working out. He got the tires and the water jugs and he'd be going crazy working out because there's nowhere else to go to do that stuff. That's why I said for J. Cole to leave America and go to Africa and go play over there, that means he really loves basketball. Because you're not playing

over there if you don't love it. That's what I was trying to say. It was funny how you said it. It was funny how I said it. Because the other guy's like, look, he should be better because Master P was in the G League. Shit.

Yeah, that's true. He did. That's true. Y'all are crazy, man. We got to talk about it, though. You talked about it, man. Obviously, with your current team now, y'all going crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all at full strength, looking scary. How was it last year you was on that team and then you realized, oh, shit, we about to get KD. I remember where I was, but I can't

tell y'all. I can't say it. But I was... Allegations. I was like, you know, it's Atlanta, so I'm in Atlanta. Oh, he was at Magic. I was not at Magic City, bro. He was at Magic. But no, I was not at Magic. I was chilling, because you know, all my homies, I'm chilling with the homies and stuff.

Definitely. And bro, my phone. And trades ain't supposed to happen that late, but that shit was the latest trade. Josh. Josh. You tell him, though, Josh. Josh. Come on.

I was not at Magic City, bro. I was supposed to happen that late. I was supposed to happen that late. I was supposed to happen that late, bro. This is my room. God knows where you was at. We trying to work with you. No, no, no. I'm chilling, bro.

And I'm like, and I'm like, dang. And I wasn't even playing at this part of the season. So I'm like, man, I'm just chilling with my homeboys. And I see the trade. I'm like,

first thing I do, I call my agent. First of all, that was the trade deadline day was in Atlanta. So my agent called me three hours before. We had like a team dinner that night in Atlanta. The whole team was there for dinner. Niggas were scary as motherfuckers. So we had dinner. My agent called me during dinner.

I'm like, I'll be right back, y'all. Scared as a motherfucker. What? I go to the bathroom. I'm like, hello? He's like, I just want to make sure you're okay. I'm like, bro, do not call me no more, bro, until after the deadline, bro. What?

So, then I go back to dinner and do my thing. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, it was like the open dinner where, like, you know, you can invite, like, your homies. We the homies chilling. And a trade happened. And I'm like, bro, what? And that's like I said, all that popped up was Phoenix Suns acquired Kevin Durant. So I'm like, who did the other team acquire?

So then I called my agent, make sure I'm still straight. He was like, yeah, you still there for now? I mean, you know, sometimes other stuff happen under that. So then I'm like, okay, all right, cool. So we heard that Mikael and Cam and Mikael, Cam and Jay Crowder, you know, he was part of that trade and like some pics or whatever and it was so sad because like if you know anything about Phoenix basketball you can't say Phoenix basketball without like Mikael and Cam did they call them the twins they still call them twins like them you know the

epitome of Phoenix basketball so he was at the hotel and he just had like a one last like kumbaya and It was all in the hallway. Just like joking, laughing, just trying to console them. They were, man, they were, man, they were sick. But shout out to them because they hooping right now. Yeah, they hooping. In the nets over there in New York. But they were so, they were so sad, man.

It was sad to see them go. But I told my homeboy, I got to go to sleep, bro, because I might be playing tomorrow which is which is which is crazy cause we actually

play we ain't have nobody playing bro cause Dario got traded that morning went to OKC so and Book at that time

was hurt I think LCP first game back so it was like it was like eight people playing that's the best

was it bro I was playing a people playing. That's the best. Was it, bro? I was playing a lot, bro. And I was hooping. I love playing Atlanta. Yeah, you always had, when we was, when y'all rookie year, you had a good game in Atlanta.

Yeah, I just, I just always loved playing Atlanta just because I just be remembering my draft workout. You be like, okay, man. I told y'all, ain't bad niggas are the pettiest people on earth.

Y'all have been through something. It ain't petty. It's just like, it's just, it's motivation. It's like anything with It's just like, it's just, it's motivation. Yeah. It's like anything with life though. Like say you go,

you working for Deloitte or something, Deloitte drop you and then another consultancy agency hires you and then y'all get the big contract over Deloitte. You're going to be flexing on Deloitte. Oh, for sure. It's just a natural,

it's just natural. Like I don't even know who said that about me when I was, I don't even remember. It's just something in my mind everybody gotta pay for it yeah

put that chip on your shoulder welcome that's how Gigi Jackson did Steph Curry did my fucker un-invited him from the camp yeah he un-invited him

yeah Steph Curry was like shit we was already full bro we had to let some people go Gigi was like yeah it's cool that's why he went crazy that ain't gonna lie,

that's years of plotting right there. That's years of plotting. You really don't forget. You're different. That's funny, because even with you, I know some people

used to go at, even I had known that before, but the Reggie Jackson is always funny. It's only Reggie Jackson, bro. Anytime I see Reggie Jackson, it's always like, that's probably one of the

funniest teammates I ever had, bro. We're all ranking funniest teammates, bro. It's funny, I tell things I ever had, bro. We're all ranking funniest teammates, bro. It's funny. I tell niggas all the time, bro. You top three. You top three.

That's hard. That's hard. And I've had a lot of teammates, gang. I've had a lot of teammates. I mean, he's a motherfucking fool. Yes. Minnesota too? Bro, let me tell you a thing about T.

He's an instigator, bro. Ah, shit. So, so, so. Tell us about it. Shit me. We had this. We had this. I had a teammate.

Shout out Jared Bayless. I just ran into Jared Bayless a couple weeks ago. Oh, yeah. Phoenix. Yeah, he is Phoenix. Man, Jared was...

First of all, he wasn't even my natural vet because he got traded to the team at the Jimmy Butler trade yeah he just took up all the vet ownership of the team like you know I had and when I came in the league it was like the tail end of the old NBA when teams had like teams a lot older yeah he's gonna go younger but when I came in like teams, teams were still older. Like, you know,

T, that was his 10th year in the league. I had D Rose, Taj Gibson, Anthony Tolliver. I seen ATS today. Anthony Tolliver. Who else was on the team?

Luau Dane. Luau, Luau. Like, I had an old team, you know what I'm saying? And after me, like,

the next youngest guy was Kat and Tyus Jones. That's how old our team was. You know what I'm saying? So, when we got to the league, it was just me and Kata. And Kata spent a lot of time in the G League.

So basically, I was the only rookie for like five vets. So it was smooth. And I was a good rookie. I didn't have no attitude. One time, Teague sent me on a trip. He wanted some candy at 12 in the morning in Cleveland. CVS went open in the city. I had to go to the suburbs.

I drove 20 minutes to the suburbs in an Uber to get some candy. The Uber didn't wait on me. Then I had to wait, you know, in the suburbs in Cleveland. I had to wait 20 minutes for the car to get back and then take me back to the city. Oh, okay. Was this regular? Did I show love, though? We ought to tell that Xbox story, though.

No, I don't. Oh. We here now. Go ahead. I'm going to though? We ought to tell that Xbox story, though. Nice. Oh. We here now. Go ahead. There's one more. I'm going to tell it, but let me finish this story. So Jared Bayless, man, he used to just like, he used to just like, do this, so I'm going to popcorn your car. If you don't do this, I'm going to popcorn your car.

And I had just got my array range roller. Array range. Man, I ain't want nothing to happen to that car, bro. That one was nice, too. Man, whatever they told me to do, bro. I did it. You know what I'm saying? But sometimes he would be like. But he he a good individual at heart, so he wouldn't want to do none of me.

But he know if Jerry gonna do something, he gonna instigate. So Jerry, you ain't gonna believe what J.O. just did. He'll tell all this shit to J.O. And then J.O. be like, Jared you ain't gonna believe what J.O. just did he'll tell all this shit to J.O. and then J.O. be like J.O.? oh that's true we gonna go popcorn

this nigga car and I'll be in that bitch cause I used to talk a lot right I was like outgoing, vibrant as soon as they say popcorn in my car

I'll be in that I'll be in my seat like we don't say a word the rest of the plane trip we all plane trip I'm over here like this that nigga bought a book, bro.

That nigga told, that nigga Jared Bayless, he said, he said, shout out Michelle Obama. He said, Michelle Obama's book, but come in.

Hey, bro, go give me five copies. I'm like, who the fuck want five copies of the same book? So I bought five copies for him. He gave me one copy back. He said he got a month to read it.

And if you don't read it, I'm going to popcorn your car. That's some bullshit, dude. That nigga was walking around with that book, nigga. Before the games, my legs crossed in my locker

before the game. Niggas listen to music, getting tape. Nigga, I'm reading my book, bro. I'm like, nigga, why the fuck you reading this weekend's book? I swear to God,

why you reading this shit? He was like, doesn't matter. Why you reading this shit? I ain Doesn't matter Why you reading this shit I ain't from the popcorn market He said I thought I was I just got out of school

Nigga said And after I'ma test you on it Nigga No cap Nigga gave me a test The nigga gave me a test What the fuck was

Jerry Payton's song Bruh He used to come in And He was just a professional He was one of the most Professional teammates I ever had

Facts He was a professional Ass. He was one of the most professional teammates I ever had. Facts. He was a professional-ass motherfucker. Arizona legend. We got respect for Jerry. For sure. He wore a suit to the club with me. I wish Jay Luke was here. He wore a suit to the club with me and Jay Luke when we was about to get beat up by the,

who the people that run Minnesota? The African people. The Somalians. Oh. Damn. Nigga, they was on our ass. How the fuck you get it all on them? I didn't. They was 60 deep.

And J-O, I mean, J-Luke looked like one of them. Yeah. So they like, Tony, Tony, though. No, J-Luke does not look like somebody. I can't wait to tell you this. They thought he did, because they was like, what's up to him? And he ain't say what's up back. They looking at him like, what the fuck, like, nigga, you.

Nigga. Dang or what? Man, I think he grabbed a bottle and he good ass. what's up back. They ain't looking at him like, what the fuck? Like, nigga, you... Nigga. Dang, you're what? Man, that nigga grabbed my bottle. Minnesota a dangerous ass city, bro.

You might not think it is, bro. That trip into Minnesota is crazy. That nigga J. Luke grabbed a Hennessy bottle, nigga. I'm like, what the fuck

you got going on? Swear to God, Jared Bayless was gone, nigga. Slacks. I'm looking around like, where Jared at? And it's like,

they got Jared. I'm like, they got where Jared at? And then Stacey Adams. I'm like, Jared, I'm like, they got Jared. So me and J. Luke that ran out the club. Man,

that nigga Jared all the way down the street. Then you see the motherfucking Stacey Adams. See them Stacey Adams clean out the whole shit. We yelling down the street. That shit was funny,

bro. But it's the funniest, I think, me and Jeff story, bro. So we pull up to Portland, I think, and we was gone for like 10 days, like a little 10-day road trip. So our per diem was looking high. We probably got like, I don't know, 2K, 1,500 2K in per diem. And, you know, being a rookie, you know, T's always look out,

like give me some of the bread for his per diem. D-Rose, some of the guys that give me some of the2K in per diem. And, you know, being a rookie, you know, T's always look out, like, give me some of the bread for his per diem. D-Rose, some of the guys that give me some of the bread for the per diem. So T used to always play his game on the road. But this specific trip, he forgot his game at home. So he said, J-O, hey, man, can you go to the store and can you go give me an Xbox and then give me 2K and then give me Madden and I need a controller too.

I'm like, bet. I got you. But I didn't have no, I ain't had no issue doing shit like that. And I'm like, all right,

bet, I got you, bro. He gave me the whole per diem. It's like, like I said, like 20, 2,000.

I go to GameStop. So I'm looking at all the different games and I'm like, let me get that used one right there. I said, let me get that used one right here. I said, let me get that used Xbox. But I ain't trying to be cheap, bro.

No. I'm trying to get them. I'm like, listen, bro. I'm like, the nigga already got an Xbox at home. Fuck does he need a new one for? You know what I'm saying? He just need one for the trip. Yeah, that's it.

So I got the used Xbox. But he gave you two bands, bro. Wait, wait, wait. Did you get the used games too? I can't remember. I don't remember. No, they was new games. They was new games.

Okay, that's cool. So it was the funniest shit because the game didn't come in the Xbox box. It came in like a GameStop box. Like a green or a white box. So I come to the hotel room. He say, because, you know, Jeff, he like, just knock on my door when you're here and you can leave.

You don't got to give it to him. So I dropped the box and it was open. It had the system, the wires. That shit would get over there. It had the wires on that shit. The controller, the games. I knock on his door. Go to my room.

Five minutes later, nigga called me. J, go to my room, find me later, nigga, call me. J.O., you gave me a used Xbox, bro? I was like, yeah,

you said you just needed something to play on the road. He was like, bro, I gave you two bands. He's like, all right, bro.

All right, bro. So, so, so, that was it, right? The nigga,

bro, the nigga, he ain't, cause he was, he was, he was upset, right? The nigga, bro, the nigga, he ain't, cause he went, he was, he was upset. He wasn't mad. He was upset.

You know what I'm saying? Get on the bus tomorrow. Hey, J.O., man, you can't believe what the nigga J.O. did. You can't do that shit.

You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit.

You can't do that shit. You can't do that shit. You ain't gonna believe what J.O. did, man. Man, I gave this nigga two bands.

All that shit, he could've said to me. You know what I nigga two bands. All that shit, he could have said to me. You know what I'm saying? All the mad shit, he could have said to me. He waited till we got on the bus where everybody was like, you ain't going to believe, man. I gave this nigga two bands. He gave me a used Xbox, used controllers, bro. And then everybody was like, oh, man,

yo, we just going to have to popcorn this nigga's car. Now I'm sad as fuck, man. In my corner, I got to go on my shelf, bro. I'll wear an outfit to the game. Bro, I'll wear an outfit to the game. This is when I was trying to put that shit on. But I already, you know, when your friends get money, you just buying whatever you think looking like this.

Nigga, I'm getting, true story. I'm in the training room, reading my book, getting tape, getting my table time. Niggas is passing the phone laughing it's just giggling looking at me giggling i'm like the fuck these niggas laughing at and him and ty is him and ty is bro them niggas used to like they used to play play games on me all the time try to like make me look like the funniest nigga right so it was ty's phone they looking at ty's phone.

They was like, nah. They say, you gonna see what we laughing at. I'm like, but let me see. I grabbed the phone. Nigga, they took my outfit and taped it to the wall. Like, the shirt hanging out up top. The jeans hanging out under the shirt. And then they put the shoes on the bottom.

And then they put up, matched the pot. They put a piece of paper and put match the pot type of outfit. So I'm like, what the fuck? I put my book down. I walk out.

I see, I see, I look out in the locker room. My whole outfit just taped to the fucking wall. And I had to do that. Bro, I'm like,

who the fuck did this? They was like, they was like J-O and then that's J-Luke. And Luke did that shit. J-Luke was like, J-O, and then just J-Luke. And Luke did that shit. J-Luke was like, J-O, I gotta teach you

a little something, man. That shit trash. Yeah, okay. He like, that outfit right there, that's how you talk. That outfit right there, man, that shit trash, man.

I'm like, I thought I put that shit on, too. I was walking slow coming out the bus. Oh, God. Trying to find that outfit. It was like a silk shirt with some 11 lows.

It was looking, skinny jeans. It was bad. My nigga grew, he grew into it so far. It's like a silk shirt with some 11 lows. It was looking skinny jeans. It was bad. My nigga grew. He grew into himself. He came a long way. No, that shit was bad, though, for real. That shit was bad.

Except with the 11s. Oh, it was wild. It was wild. And then to top it all off, T go, oh, yeah, and every road trip, this box, he's just going to carry it with you. He said, if we go from city to city, because I used to carry my game too. If we go from city to city, he's like, before you get on the bus, I'm going to leave my box

outside my door, come pick it up. Then the next city, come drop it off. When we go home, keep it at home. And then when we come out on the road, since you want to give me a used Xbox, just carry it around with you. So I used to have the used Xbox box here. And my ex-boyfriend, I used to walk in.

He had that nice shit, though. He had like a whole system. Man, I used to walk around. You thought I was an equipment manager, right? I used to walk around my room. That was my nigga, man. He was always good. And then, funny thing,

one time, one of my homeboys, his Xbox broke. He took my shit. My nigga's Xbox broke because I lived with my best friend at the time. You know what I'm saying? His Xbox broke. He's like, man, my Xbox broke, bro. Do you, uh, I know you told me about T, Xbox. That shit still in your car?

I'm like, bro, that's T, Xbox. You can't touch that shit. I'm like, bro, I need it. I'm like, all right, bro, come't touch that I'm like like bro I need it I'm like alright bro come on you go get it he got the Xbox T was at home

playing zombies I don't remember what you know about zombies bro they could click on bro my homeboy logged on that

Xbox shut his whole shit off it was like a random Thursday night T was like hey J.O you turn my Xbox on? I'm like, nope.

I'm like, that shit is in my car, bro. He's like, man, I'm playing zombie, and you lobbed me out, nigga. He was mad. I don't know what level this nigga was on, but he was, that's probably the most mad I ever, because he don't even get mad like that.

That's the most mad I ever seen that nigga, bro. Oh, man. That's the one. That's the one mad I ever seen that nigga, bro. Oh, man. My nigga, man. That's why. It's a good show, man. Oh, man. For sure. We appreciate you for sliding, Nasty.

For sure. For sure, J. I appreciate you sliding on us, man. Keep doing your thing. We got to start going to the championship, man. Facing the Milwaukee Bucks. That was my prediction. That's his prediction.

We know it's him. Shout out to the Suns. Going crazy. Yeah, I get your predictions. Oh, you know what I'm saying? I'm a Pacers fan. I crazy. Yeah, get your projections. Oh, you know what I'm saying? I'm a Pacers fan. I just want us to do good, bro. That's it.

I just want us to do good. I'm just happy my nigga starting an All-Star game. What you got? Oh, Jayoski. Y'all gonna win, damn. Nah, bro. We about to win this motherfucker too, right? I like the way we playing right now.

I'ma show. Y'all gonna be good, man. I like the way we playing right now. Y'all gonna be good, man. I like the way we playing, bro. It just took us a long time to figure it out. We still figuring it out. Niggas getting hurt and shit, bro. That's part of the season. And we still figuring it out. But I like the direction we heading.

Yeah, if y'all was healthy all the way through, you know what I mean, for sure. But y'all niggas' bones ain't worth a quarter over there, bro. Definitely y'all on the under. He with the parlay, niggas. He with the parlay niggas he with the parlay niggas all that shit but man on that note

we'll get up out of here like share subscribe all that good shit appreciate y'all walk over to us say yo you up I know a lot of cops

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