Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Joy Taylor on Undisputed, Jaylen Brown as villain on 76ers, Mahomes, NBA GOAT
Episode Date: August 24, 2026We’re back with Season 4, Episode 81, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by television host and sports media personality Joy Taylor. Joy and the guys talk Kareem Abdul-Jabaar and ...NBA GOATS, Patrick Mahomes’ dominance at the QB position with the Kansas City Chiefs, and who she would take to start her team if she could pick any player in the NFL. Plus, Teague, Taylor, and the fellas talk Ja Morant and Damian Lillard of the Portland Trail Blazers, Anthony Edwards of the Minnesota Timberwolves, Jaylen Brown of the Philadelphia 76ers, and who has the potential to take on a villain role in the NBA next season. And don't miss Joy talk about her incredible run on ‘Undisputed,’ meeting Jonathan Ogden, her take on Justin Herbert's career, best drinks to order, and so much more!Timeline:3:30 - Welcome to the show, Joy!7:00 - First time in Indianapolis9:30 - L.A. and Miami14:30 - Preacher's wife is a toxic movie16:00 - Getting into sports19:30 - Dudes ordering drinks23:30 - Canned drinks27:30 - People getting jealous36:15 - Undisputed41:30 - Athletes in sports podcasting and television46:30 - Villains in sports51:20 - Lamar and potential NFL villains55:30- Justin Herbert1:00:00 - Who would Joy take with #1 pick starting a franchise01:03:30 - Jason Taylor01:05:30 - Meeting Jonathan Ogden01:07:30 - TV show talk#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Joy back in the day, I know you had a Boost Mobile or next-tailed shirt.
Of course.
Mm, what was your ringtone?
I miss ringtones.
I feel like I had like probably Aaliyah.
I mean, I can't remember.
That was a long time ago.
Aaliyah.
Now, what's Aliya's song?
Because that says a lot about it.
That's true.
That's true.
It was it?
Can I come over, was it?
Rock the boat.
Rock the boat, yeah.
Rock the boat.
Lee's song.
Yeah, for sure.
That's a fire ring tone.
They said Leah was really thirsty for that man,
or can I come over?
Because she asked that nigga 18 times in the hook because she's lied.
And he did not respond.
She made it over there, for sure.
You know he did.
It's still a great song, though.
No, amazing.
There are some R&B songs that I don't believe in.
Like what?
Well, not the whole song.
I don't believe in that.
That's way too far.
What's that line?
I used to think that I wasn't fine enough.
That never sat with me.
I never thought that.
That didn't rest.
That's not that
like, I was like,
okay,
we can skip past that line
and we'll go
because everything else
I'm feeling.
What song is that?
Kisha Cole.
Y'all,
Kishika.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
That's a legendary song.
She said,
I used to think I was part.
Yeah.
That love?
Yeah.
I said,
I did not feel that more.
I just get quiet
during that part.
And then I keep going.
I like that for show.
How do you feel about TLC
seeing a song
about scripts and they were the scripts?
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being here, how to Laze's been looking, brother?
Not so good, bro, but we're back at it happy as ever,
let's get this money. Joy, do you dabble
in the sports market at all? I do.
Okay. What's your favorite parley? What sport
is I go to? I know you got a lot of sport knowledge
what you tap in with. I really like
to gamble NFL
mostly.
I like a little fun bet, though. I'm not trying to be too
upset about losing, you know.
So if I feel really good about something, I'll put a little money on it.
A fight, you know, when there's a big fight.
It's a big one this weekend.
100%.
So I'll dabble.
But I never, I gamble responsibly.
As you should.
If you need help, call the hotline below, my boy be here.
We got the crash out parlay.
He's going to get your new house.
But we're going to lose it.
Yeah, 500.
I can't be.
I need a home.
500, $125,000.
That's what we are.
That is, that's, that's, that's, that's,
10 leg parleyes.
We try to get this money.
Yeah.
You got it like that.
He does?
No, I don't.
He's still working, though.
See, he's trying to.
Yeah, yeah.
Life is great.
He's trying to be subtle.
I hear you.
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To my far left, we got my dog, bitch of being out the Pireli.
How you were nasty?
Cool and nasty.
Let's get to it, man.
I'm excited for this one.
Okay.
I see the beverage you got there, man.
Yeah, man.
Shout the Bail was life.
Man, they got my boy D. Garland on the front.
You know, Bob's life take care of us with the energy drinks.
They fire.
Come on, man.
Shout to the 219, man.
Shout to the ball's life family for show, man.
Still to my right, my dog, young nacho, young Teague.
How you what?
How you got them drinks from?
Oh, okay, okay.
I'll try next time.
Shout the ball's life.
I'm good.
I'm excited.
I had a interview with her earlier.
It was a real, real good time.
She's definitely funny, so it's going to be a really good episode.
Come on, man.
She was in the city, man, doing content, man.
Hey, listen, as you heard before we recorded, man,
we gave her a couple tips I'd navigate through the city, man.
Yeah.
She had a nice journey, man.
When that episode drops tap in for show.
Yeah, for sure.
We go to take on the real journey through the city, man.
Next time she'll pull up for you.
Come on, man.
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Thank you for having me.
It's my first time in Naptown.
First time in Naphtown.
Am I not allowed that?
No, no, yeah, for sure.
It's clear.
I feel like there's a lot of rules here.
Like general rules, you know?
Not in this city.
Not like, I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I got to, you know.
you go somewhere new.
You got to make sure you know
you're navigating properly.
No, you good here.
Shout out for nothing.
I got my.
Yeah.
Shout to Maxie.
Tom.
Appreciate you.
In our city.
Nap or nothing.
Take care of me.
That was dope.
That's something that I'm glad you got to do.
I am too.
It was a great sense.
That's a big staple in the city.
And I got to make a shirt.
Yeah.
He gave you a real experience
up there at the shop, man.
Not for nothing.
He's one of the few people in this city
who has his own press and makes his own merch as well.
And man, it's very, very talented.
Shout to Maxi, our brother, for sure.
All right.
Tee, why we're here, and obviously I tapped me a little bit earlier.
But if you tell somebody pull-ups in that, where's a couple places you would have them slide to?
Long's Bakery and Texas Row House.
Long's Bakery, for sure, legendary donuts.
Please pull up.
Texas Row House is just about the ABC you can find this.
Respectfully.
The Royal House over there on Michigan Road.
Y'all know how I feel about you.
Foolishness, man.
Foolishness, man.
Come on, man, you fucking.
I love Texas Rowlhouse, bro.
I hear you.
Yeah, like, it's just the right thing to do, bro.
The Hallville sign.
Mike, no.
We're not taking her to Harville.
Longs is good enough.
for the harbor trip.
Shottop family out west as well.
They didn't take sunset.
I don't know if you were familiar with sunset.
I would not take her to sunset.
It's a legendary blockhouse city.
They got her toes out because she's going to go back home.
Yeah, because for real.
It's a legendary bakery and on the other side street.
She's going to get athletes for the men.
Yeah, gangrene.
Yeah, for the strip club.
Athletes from the strip club is crazy.
Yeah, that carpet been around since before all of us was born.
Yeah.
Honestly, they had not been out near at all, but legendary place, too.
100%, man.
It's just a lot of places.
Sounds like stories.
Yeah.
You need to go to Culture.
You need to go to Shadow Lounge.
Yeah.
Go to the trap guy soul.
Okay.
You need to go to Mama's Kitchen.
It's just a lot of places that you just missed.
So.
I'm only here today.
We got you.
I'm just saying, it's cool.
I got you.
We got you.
We're going to hold you down the right way.
I do feel like I saw a lot of the city, though.
Okay.
It's a very clean city.
100%.
A very functional city.
You can move around.
You can park about anywhere.
You can park about anywhere.
Everyone was really nice about moving.
very nice people.
We were shooting at the mural
and we tried to like
get a clean street to get the mural
and like,
guy just moved his car.
It was so nice.
That would never happen in L.A.
Oh, no.
Yeah, no.
I probably couldn't work.
Now, everybody here pretty chill.
So they'd be like, no chance.
Yeah, everybody here pretty chill.
So I'm glad you got a good experience while out here.
You lived in both cities.
What's your favorite city to,
you know what I'm saying, move around in?
Miami or L.A.
They're both.
actually pretty hard to move around in. L.A. I would say is worse just because there's
more people, but Miami has gotten a little crazy. I mean, when I, when I lived in Miami full
time, it was a completely different city. I say she's grown up now a little bit. She's like in her
out of college era, got her first big girl job. Like Miami was just a place you would go out and
party huge clubs. There wasn't really like a sophisticated scene when I lived
there, it's changed a lot.
It's, but I feel like a lot of places
have changed. You still have like
big mega clubs in Vegas
and you still have 11 and live in Miami,
but it's not really the scene anymore. I feel like
people are more, more chill
just in general in society.
People want to be able to like talk to each
other and, you know, you have
your time to like go pop bottles and act nuts,
but it's changed a lot.
L.A. is a very, actually, surprisingly,
not sleepy city, but it's
it's just like you go to long dinners there.
I'm also older.
So, like, maybe there is, and I just don't know about it.
I love Miami.
I love Miami, too.
Miami in like 2012, 2009 to 12,
Weber to 15 mansion.
When DJ Cal and first broke and break cross pre-bed.
Yes, club bed.
What a place.
What a time.
A vibe.
That's what diddy was out there then, clubbed.
But no, wait, he, he folks.
He fucks the vibe of every time.
We just had a fun time.
Literally.
I was thinking about that because I remember we went to
club bed.
Club bed was a vibe.
I didn't go on Diddy's night.
I didn't go on Diddy's night?
No, I didn't.
No, real shit, I did.
I didn't.
You didn't go to club?
No, real shit.
I never, I'd never been in the same building as diddy.
God bless everybody who's been a part of that.
I'm saying, we don't know.
We don't have to say hi.
No, I'm just saying, no, he was.
She went to a party.
Wait, Jay-Lah.
I did not. I went to bed a lot.
But I was never there.
Have you ever went to a Diddy part?
Not that I recollect
tonight
Yeah, okay
Well,
let's clarify
that
Through memory
The internet is a wild place
He was there on this night
In 2007
Like all right
You got me
I was outside
I'm just saying
I've never
I've never
intentionally gone to a
DGVARty
To 2010 to 2015
Miami was lit
It was a great place
A great
Great
Those years were amazing
It was affordable
People were still dancing
that we're not recording everybody.
It was a great, great place.
Mancha was amazing.
Speaking of the dance,
so we just had this when I want to ask you this,
as a woman,
if you are,
you know what I'm saying,
after crib,
you hear that your man went to the club.
Your home guard tells you,
no, he wasn't in there getting active,
but he was in there actually dancing.
Are you upset by that?
Like, he didn't have a hose,
but he was in there actually like busting the splits.
Is that out of pocket?
I don't believe that men should dance anywhere.
I don't believe in men.
I don't think men should have too much fun.
So I came over.
I can't have a toolst up.
We model a little bit of Barbie.
Yeah, we need to dress for a barb where you have.
No, please continue.
So, men should I have fun.
No, I didn't say fun.
I said too much fun.
Okay, what's too much?
Dancing in the club by yourself is too much fun.
It's just, what's going on here?
Is Asher on?
I mean, listen, God bless.
Like, life is hard.
Yeah, come on.
Her dudes start dancing.
She's pleased.
It's a rap.
I make to say, I misjudged you.
Yes.
It's okay.
Poor judgment.
Yeah, unless you were drugs, in which case, we can work through it.
The ex-field had him
doing the year in the club
That's not in your veins
It should not be a natural
to what I want you to do
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's all bad.
Be where you're at, we need some drinks,
but we're having to, for a lot of time, for sure.
Barbee, what's happening?
All right, what we got today?
I wanted to make you a drink that they say a great horn, right?
Yes, please.
Okay, thank you.
Can you only enjoy, turn up?
Sure, that dark red.
You came to hear with your epist salad gear on the day.
Okay, first lady.
He called her the preacher's wife.
He called her first lady.
The preacher's wife is crazy.
Oh, God.
You came here with Donnie McCurt.
Preacher's wife is loki a toxic movie.
You know what?
I'll have you say that because this is at Washington.
She got his ass whoop.
Get away from my wife.
God does not see him back on my girl.
Why is she doing?
Because she was being neglected as a wife.
And God sent her Denzel Washington.
So now you're vouching.
Talk about it.
I'm to say.
Her aunt lives.
They don't hear.
She really goes to the girls.
She goes to the girls.
You said, God sent her that.
All right, cool.
Now I was in the club, but it's final a little year over there.
God said her too.
Yeah.
I forgot out that tutsy and got it.
What the Russus to say?
It was gossip.
For sure.
Not what game said.
I'm sitting the wife. That's great.
And honestly, that was Whitney. You got to respect it?
That was.
I'm saying.
God sent him.
Okay.
Why would he send that back off the movie title?
Why would he do that?
He was an angel. He was an angel.
Yeah, he's an angel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't like how he shot that made up before.
My church is trash is hell.
And you send him right here, hey, bro, just give me some more money.
We could have fixed all this.
I needed a new water heater.
And you said the angel to make my family better, bro.
This is in a new collection.
No, she was out of pocket.
I mean, yeah.
Dudley.
Another good guy has ass, whoop.
It's out there punching snow.
I love this show.
For the people who are not familiar with you,
how did you get into liking sports,
knowing sports all the above?
So I grew up in Pittsburgh.
Okay, a Steelish fan?
I am a Steelers fan.
I'm a little mad at them right now.
They're kind of becoming the bears.
Damn.
Not the current bears.
The current bears have got it together.
They're lit.
I said shout to Caleb.
The current bears have got it together.
Yeah.
The Bears before Caleb got there.
Wicked.
Where they have like this,
like we run the ball, we play divas.
Like, how, get a quarterback.
Hold on hold.
They do have a quarterback.
Okay.
It's go, the greatest quarterback.
All right.
So I grew up in Pittsburgh.
Because we'll just keep, you know, we'll get back to that.
You said he's the greatest?
Yes.
The most talented, I should say the most talented quarterback.
Okay.
I mean, I will, I can,
respect that opinion.
I don't have to fight you on that.
He's not the greatest time.
Tom Brady is.
He's the most talented.
He's incredibly talented quarterback for sure.
But it's his last year in the league.
Oh, we got one more year left.
I know he said he's going to retire, but we really got more time.
If y'all goes to the playoffs, Iraq on back.
He's coming back.
No, that's what we do.
We go to the playoffs to get knocked in the first round.
It's not the standard for the Steelers.
So I grew up with Steelers, like, we're going to the Super Bowl.
That's it.
We're going to Super Bowl.
We're winning the Super Bowl.
That's what we do.
And it's a it's, we've had four coaches.
It's not we right now that are upset with them.
Anyway, I grew up in Pittsburgh.
Watching the Steelers was a Dan Marino fan as well from Pitt.
I went to Pitt.
And just, you know, Pittsburgh is, it's kind of similar.
And it's a very sports-centered town.
Everybody has to, you know, pay attention when the Steelers are playing,
have football kind of as the center of everything.
How you guys have basketball sort of at the center of everything.
Like everyone plays football.
Everyone's had peewee games, the high school games.
And I just grew up with women who were very opinionated about sports.
Like my aunts and my grandmother and my mother just my mom loves the cowboys.
I don't understand why or how that happened.
She likes Emmett Smith.
Queen.
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, she is a queen.
But the Cowboys thing is weird.
And I played sports.
I played basketball.
volleyball, soccer,
ran track.
Where you?
Who?
She participated.
Actually.
What sport did you do well?
Track was my best sport.
Okay.
I ran track from college.
Soccer.
I also got recruited for soccer, but
you know, I stopped growing in seventh grade,
so basketball was not going to be
my thing.
Damn.
Yeah, I thought I was going to be Michael Jordan,
Cheryl Swoops,
Theresa Witherspoon,
AI.
Cause Wetherspoon.
You was a point guard, right?
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, that was all that I could be.
Stress was a scrappy, scrappy defensive player.
She was her game?
I didn't say.
I told her she was Jose Alvarado.
Damn, GTA.
I mean, I would take that.
I mean, he's good.
John's my boy.
I'm saying she said she was fast.
She ran track.
Yeah.
You just out there fast and shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But I like, I like to fight.
Choose the rooser.
I would like, because I was little and skinny, like, but I was fast.
So I would always say in.
front of you. I mean, I was not good at basketball. We don't need to get into that.
But I love sports. Obviously, my brother played football from his junior year on. And so, yeah, I just grew up in a sports family, playing sports. I was always at a practice, always at a game.
Gave me an opportunity to get out of the house, which was not a good place for me. So it really was an escape as well. But that's really how I fell in love with sports.
Well, your brother started playing football as junior year?
Yeah, he actually got discovered by the
high school coach.
He was mowing a lawn because he played basketball
and he thought he was going to play basketball.
And he was mowing a lawn and the coach saw him,
the head coach of the football team and was like,
do you play football?
And he was like, now I play basketball.
And he was like, come try out.
Damn.
One of the coldest ever do it, man.
Shout to O.G. Jason.
You said you liked to fight.
Barbie, our sister.
She liked to fight.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't like
She's been fighting all her life.
I like to fight.
I'm a grown woman now.
I'm not fighting.
She just stopped.
She just stopped?
Yeah, yeah.
I stopped that maybe like 25.
Yeah, yeah.
She meant 20, 25.
I just seen her all-star in her throw that.
My last physical, probably 30, but.
Damn.
They deserved it.
Oh.
But, yeah, no, I just, I was.
Did you win?
You know.
Well,
I don't know if I should tell
I'm not going to tell that story
It's inappropriate
There's nothing appropriate about our show
Yeah
Yeah
Hold on
You don't say no name
But just it wasn't really
It was one more of a fight
It's more of me
Like smacking someone
Oh okay
Okay
A little bit straight now
Yeah
You smacked it and it was
You smacked it and it was over
Yeah
Damn
Big dog
Oh respect
She walks it down
She wants to work for you
Okay
Cool
She does not work for you
me. I have a never
ever
I just play
You want a race?
Never did a co-worker
I have never ever
ever ever
whoever that was at the bar
I hope she's doing it was at the bar
it was at the bar it's always at a bar
you wasn't drinking red wine
and smacking people
I was not drinking red wine
you know the thing is I
I do like a martini
okay I like
I don't like talking about you
I like a martini
and I like a
really, really good, like repasado.
Okay. And like a good juice.
But I can only do like one.
Yeah. Wine is different.
Wine I could do a bottle.
What's the martini that you get?
Corn star martinis.
Yeah. Bro, love them.
I used to know. I used to bartend for a long time, but I don't remember what's in that.
It's a whole lot of bullshit in the sidecar.
Get drunk real quick.
Yeah.
One of my favorites for sure.
Now as a man, what's a drink that if you see him pull up with?
You're like, I'm judging you.
Like when we was in Vegas, he got us lemon drops.
That's what they had me
at me at the
Where we went
What's the car?
St. Elmo's
They gave me a
They gave me a
Margarita
Oh
Yeah,
Yeah, it's sugar on the real car
Right, so you
Did you tell them
On the rocks though
Cause
I ain't say nothing
Bro, he just brought it out
You gotta tell him on the rocks
Oh, so you knew he's an alcoholic
Excuse me?
You gotta see how you got to
See how you got the sugar off
I ain't get no sugar off
Cah?
No, I didn't
Oh
He just spent it
He just sprinted
room? Wow.
Rim is crazy.
I love a Tahin room, you know.
I do love Tahin.
But Tahin, actually, I even think for women, it looks crazy.
Oh, really?
I'll be busy.
Oh, you get busy?
Yeah.
Because you have to, you got to have.
You got to have tongue to glass.
She's undefeited.
A tongue to glass?
You have to have tongues of glass.
She's latched in two games.
So it's stuck to the, how can get it all off?
In a main face.
Oh, yeah, that's going to.
She ain't going to catch it.
She's a two-way.
No, Kuala.
They're getting too personal.
Y'all getting too personal.
Respect.
I feel like I'm sure.
That's doubt about it, guys.
Yeah.
We're not going to buy me.
I don't really judge judgment for drinks.
Okay.
Yeah.
If you like a fruity drink, you like a fruity drink.
Also, I think people should drink what they want to drink.
Oh, no.
Like this is like a lot.
I had to tell.
I like, you know, I was.
You very softly ordered, first of all.
You didn't order with confidence.
I said, I just like rep a side of them.
Neat.
He said.
Not say need.
Oh, okay.
That's my boy order a drink.
He said margarita.
I get a margarita.
And you say tequila, neat, because I know he do, he do order that.
Yes, the fact.
Yeah, but so because he didn't say me.
I said, let me get a repasado.
I didn't say nothing else.
He said, Margarita.
I said.
Because he did not say meat.
I said, day.
I told him what.
Hey, Barbies says a wild shit.
Oh my eyes.
When y'all is, Barbies gets a chill off.
Give me one, Margarita.
I'm going to give you to.
I'm after the game.
Now he was flaring with the game.
You know.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean about a cut.
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Actually, can you help me shape this?
How about we flip it on his head, right?
How about we flip the script?
What is the surprise woman?
Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.
Adam Scott.
This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
I would never expect.
I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen.
If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.
I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine.
Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you.
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I love good cut water.
That was worse.
Joy,
you was around, obviously.
The Limerida era
or the cut waters.
What's more dangerous?
I have never had a cut water.
You never had cut water?
You had a Limerida, though?
A Limerida?
Yeah.
I could not put down a Limerida, no.
I wasn't,
I'm not really like the,
I wish I could drink the can
drinks,
but they upset my tummy.
So I can't do it.
But they seem very convenient,
so I would like to like
them.
No, they are.
They get to them.
But if I have to do something like that, I'll have like a cider, like an angry orchard.
Hey, man, though.
I ain't never drunk a beer in my life.
That for real?
Never had a broost?
I ain't a good.
I ain't grocery.
I don't trust nobody to drink beer, though.
What?
That's a wild sport.
Just like, you don't trust people on the speakerphone.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't a lot.
Joy, if you, if you drunk a beer right in front of me, I'm like, ha.
Yeah, I'd be like, like, like, she smoked cigarettes.
Yeah, that's an honest.
You got a squirrel on here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, so I'm not judging men for the drinks that they order, but you guys are judging women for things.
I like to dance, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
He breaks the dance.
You guys, three of you go out.
Uh-huh.
And all the sudden, a song comes on.
Hold on, Joy, wait, before you finish, out of Oz three, who you think is going to dance first?
Keep it real.
Yes.
Yes.
The love of, love a little.
Finish your story.
I don't mean that as an insult.
No, no, no, okay.
You seem the most carefree.
Oh, God, facts.
So what I'm saying is, you three are out,
and he just pops out on the dance floor and starts.
Yeah.
You're not going to be concerned?
No, it's going to be on the show.
But you're not going to be concerned.
You're not going to be like that.
Why is this happening?
I'm going to say, I can't wait.
I just make sure security is around him and guard him so he can get this shit up.
I don't want nothing to happen to him, but.
Yeah, hip whites off for a soul training club,
I'm gonna be doing something else.
No, the impact we dropped six to get a blood test in the morning.
That's we're going on there.
See what's going on there.
Now, be here, we came front on the beer
because back in the Vogue days, the Bull Limes used to go up for $1.50.
You had to drink in the beer for show.
This is shout out to my boy, Hughesie Hamry.
Oh, yes.
He is the goal for the drink and the beer at his hand.
It was just a vibe thing.
I never drunk that shit.
But High Lime was a tough era.
I can't really drink a lot of beer.
though. I got like a little corona
on a boat. Okay.
For the vibes. Yeah, that type of shit.
But I can't put down like a logger.
Yeah. I ain't ever mad, man. Especially people
who know what I'm saying, watch sports, especially football as well,
man. Keep the butt on tap for sure with the wings.
I ain't mad at chicken and beer, man.
So I was a player combination for sure.
I don't.
I just know you drunk beer.
Once you get me started, if somebody
like, come on, I chug a beer, Barbie, I might.
There we go. She will.
She will.
I would never. She grew up 40 ounces.
And so that's a good.
Barbie vibe out.
So she probably would.
Just for the vibes, you know?
Yeah.
For sure, man.
It's 520 somewhere, man.
Tap me into the Patreon on the YouTube.
Barb, we appreciate you.
Before you kick me off, I have a question for Joyce.
Go crazy.
One, one, one.
So I have a podcast.
It's 520 somewhere in my growth.
So I wanted to ask you, though, with being in this space, how do we be ourselves, be authentic
without giving the people too much of our personal life?
Like, how did you decipher that?
I'm still figuring that out, honestly.
especially because I've worked in sports my whole career.
So I'm talking about someone else.
If you do a show about you, you have to talk about you.
Exactly.
And I'm a pretty private person.
And I don't like everybody in my business, but that's not how that works.
So what I try to do is just have things I know I'm not going to talk about.
Or, you know, I've never been like a name person.
I'll talk about experiences, but not ever say this was the person that this happened with.
But I think just remember that everything that you put out is forever.
Right.
So have boundaries that you feel comfortable with.
And don't compromise them just for the cliques.
For the cliques.
Do you drink while you're potty?
I don't.
Okay.
So maybe we need to tone it back a little bit.
Because once we get started, oh.
It's tipsy time?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm drinking on this show, so we'll see how I go.
I'm drink on my show.
I'm also shooting in the afternoon on like a Tuesday.
So it's not really drink time.
Yeah.
Well, it's 5.20.
everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Actually, before you leave real quick,
I'm sorry, I didn't bring this up.
Shout to the two personal show,
joins the other show she does as well.
Y'all talked about, you know what I'm saying,
if your boyfriend is still left on good terms
with the ex and they still communicate,
is that okay or is that bad?
How you feel about that?
Can your ex, I mean, can your current self be cool with his ex?
No, for what?
They get in on good terms.
It's mature.
They're adults, you know what I'm saying?
They had a good time together.
Now they just communicate, check in on each other.
Is that okay?
And anything on good terms means that if we see you out in public,
it's okay to wave at them.
communicating with them still?
No.
So she can't tell me
happy birthday?
No, I tell my man
happy birthday.
You don't have to wish them nothing.
You are the birthday,
that's supposed to say.
Good.
I am the birthday.
No.
Ain't that what they say?
Her birthday is made different.
Her birthday was better.
I mean, she got me something
a little bit better than you got last year.
That's why I was going towards the gift.
I ain't worried about that.
You got a better gift?
How do you feel about that?
I think every relationship
and every situation
is different.
I think there are certain X's
I wouldn't be cool with.
And some I probably just wouldn't care about.
I'm not a very like,
I'm not a really like an ownership person.
Yeah.
And I am very big on like trust and respect.
So if I don't really fully trust you,
I can't be with you.
And if I don't respect you,
there's no way I can be with you.
So if you're going to disrespect me,
it doesn't matter how many clamps I put on you.
You're going to do it anyway.
So,
I actually feel more comfortable with
someone who's like, oh, you know,
so-and-so text me, happy birthday, whatever, like,
or not even knowing.
Like, it's like, okay, you're cool with that person.
Thank you.
Move on with your day.
I'm not really like a territorial person
because I can't,
I can't deal with one percent of jealousy.
I can't deal with a man that's jealous.
It's like, not only is it super unattractive to me,
it just pisses me off.
And I can't, I don't,
I got like two modes, like cool.
and absolutely not cool.
I have no great area at all.
And I just do too much
to deal with someone who's insecure at all.
And I can't control someone texting me
and I'm not about to be like,
don't fucking text me, I got a man.
I'm not doing all that.
Every time you see that text,
it's definitely text me.
For sure.
Anytime they say that,
don't text me, I got a man.
That means text me later.
He next to me.
That's what I'm out of.
He said next to me.
I call you later.
No, jealousy is overrun.
DJ Shudlow.
It's not a good vibe.
It's not a good energy.
But for some people, like, some people are codependent or some people just, you know,
have their boundaries, which I get.
Everyone is very different.
Everybody's different.
I've realized over the past couple years, I don't know what's going on over here.
I don't think I want to be.
Don't worry, buddy.
What you said?
What do you say?
What do you say, Troy?
Because the lollies over there, they get in trouble.
No, we've all.
I've realized that I'm probably more of an unconventional relationship person.
My relationship takes our.
extremely unpopular.
Shout to the show.
What's one of your wildest ones?
I don't think it's wild at all,
but my absolute most unpopular
take is that if I date a man,
I want him to have some
female friends.
Oh, I like it. That's a great take.
That's good. Why is that, though?
Well, one,
because I want to know
that there are women
that you have known for a certain amount of time
who feel comfortable being around you.
without you praying on them
or wanting something from them
or trying to sleep with them.
So you have the capacity
to see women as more than just sex
or your family
or someone that works for you.
Oh, I thought she was talking like our cousins and shit.
No, I'm saying like,
because they don't count that.
Like, oh, I got girl cousins.
I got sisters.
Like, you're not ever trying to fuck your cousins
or your sisters or your mom or your aunties.
Like, that doesn't count.
Of course you love them.
That's your family.
Right.
And then it'll be like, oh, well, my secretary are like, you know, so-and-so that works at the bank.
Like, that's your co-worker.
Yeah, Barb.
Oh, Barb.
Barbie.
Okay.
I was like, yeah, like Barb that works with you at the bank.
Those are your nose.
I need to not look at that.
That doesn't count.
Like, those are, those have boundaries.
I'm saying, like, you have a friend from high school that you're cool with that has seen you
through different parts of your life.
You respect her opinion.
And you're not trying to fuck her.
Like, I think that's a good character trait.
for a man to have.
I want to know that he respects and cares about women.
I want to know women feel safe around him.
Like, not for nothing, but a lot of men, not all.
Because I got a lot of girls.
A lot of men are unsafe.
Like they don't treat women well.
They're only trying to sleep with them.
And also I've had some experiences with men who do not have any female friends whatsoever.
They have no women around them that are nightmares.
Like, they're kind of the worst.
Scary spooky.
They're scary spooky.
Like, why can't you be around women without
I fuck with you.
Okay?
Like, just take a beat.
Just chill.
Yeah, chill.
Like, it's okay.
Daringly, hornet.
We're trying to hump the wall.
Let's.
Put the wood down.
That he has had sexual interactions with, but then they decided.
Boy, it's out of the mud.
They just remain friends.
I mean, I think, again, I think it depends on the situation.
But I feel like at my age and, like, everything that I've been through an experience,
I can kind of tell if somebody's on some other shit or not.
So, you know, if you are, then that's what you want to do.
I'll find out.
I'll leave you.
It's, you know, life goes on.
But I do think, like, that whole, like, oh, I'm friends with them because I'm trying
to get with them.
Like, not for nothing.
That's shit lames do.
I'm sorry.
Like, I'm sorry if you're involved in that kind of situation.
But, like, if you're a girl that has to pretend to be friends with a man to try
and get with him, you're a lame.
And if you're a man who's, you're a man who's.
like just waiting around a woman to like get her to notice you, you're a lame.
Like that's not in my blood.
So I don't,
I can't relate.
You've always seen when a niggas out there trying to wait it out.
It was like, that's nasty.
It's nasty.
That's nasty.
You're talking about a long game.
It's nasty.
So it's cool to have female friends, man.
There's nothing wrong with it.
If you ain't touching them.
And also,
don't you just want some other perspective?
Like I actually feel like I get great perspective on business,
on moving around certain situations,
on places I would,
never be in because men are there on dating,
like on being a father,
like all kinds of shit that you can't get from a shit.
That's why I draw the line, though.
I fuck with that.
But I'm saying like I would never tell one of my
female friends about my relationship.
Oh, no, no, no, no, I totally agree.
I don't, I don't think you should do that.
I don't think you should do that.
We keep that that.
I don't think you should do that with.
Because if you say something wrong about now,
I'm shit.
No, no, no, no.
I agree.
I totally.
I totally.
I totally agree.
You should have boundaries for sure.
You have to have boundaries in intersex friendships.
You have to have boundaries.
I fully believe that.
Like, there's certain shit you shouldn't talk about.
But I also feel like if you're married,
you shouldn't be talking to really nobody about your relationship.
Like, you should have maybe one friend you've been to,
and it got to be about light shit.
Yeah.
Like your marriage or a very serious relationship,
you can't be, you know, bitching to your mom.
You can't be talking to your friends.
Like, it introduces.
an element to your relationship
that you cannot undo.
Man, that's shit weak as hell.
Yeah, you can't do that.
That's true.
You all said, man.
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I try to make Barbie like my home girl,
but she gets bad advice.
Yeah.
She's like,
I'm like, man, I've been thinking, man,
I'm trying to get by this gift.
She's like, go to all stars tonight.
She don't want you to be great at all.
You've been a part of some legendary shows.
first thing as first, being part of one of the best shows on TV for a long time period.
What was that like, man, with Undisputed?
Undisputed was, man, that was so long ago, it feels like.
It's 10 years ago.
It was a really great experience for me.
It was my first network television show full-time.
I had done some work with CBS in Miami.
But, you know, full-time, obviously.
And it was a huge network launch.
It was a big deal.
because Skip had just left ESPN
and Shannon obviously hadn't done
that type of television before.
So it was a big launch for the network
so being a part of that was cool, just making
commercials, doing a whole rollout
and the expectations
that people had for the show because everyone was watching.
Like everyone wanted to see how it would do,
how would Skip do without Stephen A,
what was Shannon going to be like?
And, you know, we traveled a lot.
We were all over the country, NBA finals,
Super Bowl,
Mayweather, U.S. Open, so many different places and doing live shows of that magnitude with
the live audience was just a crazy experience. And while I had done radio for years before that,
it was a whole like another step up of doing live stuff and just the expectations from it. But
it taught me a lot. I mean, Skip obviously notoriously has his quirks about him, not resetting his
clocks. And, you know, he's just a very regimented person and had high expectations.
of everyone, which really taught me how to be discipline.
Yeah.
Because I was not going to be late.
Like I was not going to be the trouble on that show.
And it was intentional on my end to really be prepared, really work hard at the show, work
hard at that position.
And I've always found like in any new position doing the work first and getting, getting
to like an expert level at your role, almost always.
grants you the opportunity to expand.
So I think sometimes, like, when we get an opportunity,
we think we're better than we are at it.
Like, if you'd have told me at 22,
like you'd have asked me if I could do that show,
I'd be like, yeah, for sure.
There's no fucking way.
Like, you have the delirious confidence
that you can do anything.
And so you get there and you're like,
fuck, I do not have the skills for this.
But if you do an excellent job at it,
the people who are experts, then start to trust you.
And they know that you're willing to, like,
do the work to expand in it.
Like, Skip wasn't sure that he wanted me for that role,
because being a moderator is a very, very specific job.
All the lights are on you, but you're not necessarily the voice.
But it's very important.
Like, if you let the conversation go off the rails
or you're not getting to break on time,
and like, there's a lot of technical work that goes into that job.
People screaming their ear and earpiece,
you tell you to go to commercial and you try to get some people to stop talking.
Wrap up.
And then you got to, then you sound rude because you're cutting them off.
Like, you got to have their respect to know, like,
hey, guys, we got to end it here.
All that's like behind the scenes stuff.
Yeah.
That seems very easy.
But, you know, you're dealing with big egos and people want to get the last word in.
So there's a lot of dynamics that go into doing it.
And Skip wasn't sure if I could do it because I was coming from the radio side where I'm doing four hours of morning drive radio on my own show.
Like, that's a lot of talking.
That's a big voice to have.
Yeah.
To then move to that position where it's important, but you're not necessarily talking.
And I told him, I was like, I know what this show will lead to, and I know, like, the opportunity that it is.
So I'm going to do the job that is assigned to me.
Like, I'm not going to force myself into the show.
And when it feels right and when it works, I'll get my opportunity.
And that's how it grew.
So that's how I've always treated those jobs.
And it really worked out for me.
It was a great experience.
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On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.
I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle.
I chose option B.
I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.
I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita.
trading the pity for possibility.
Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people,
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It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is
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Hey, this is Hayes Davenport.
And Sean Clements.
We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.
Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz,
and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show.
We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great.
Actually, can you help me shape this?
How about we flip it on his head?
How about we flip the script?
What is the surprise woman?
Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.
Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
I would never expect.
I would never set expectations for something like that to happen.
If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.
I'm always going to accept.
You know, Danny McBride, fine.
Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding.
I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you.
I was like, is that weed?
Nope, it's fragile masculinity.
Ben Stiller, no.
Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is.
You know what I mean?
They're like, oh, what's a state.
Everyone's.
And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life.
I don't care about your life.
And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us.
Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy.
Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Yeah, hell of a show for sure. I want to ask you this, obviously, someone's been in the field for a long time.
You think shows like first take undisputed, a lot of people attribute those shows for ruining
sports media or player podcasts for ruining sports media.
You think that's true or there's just been evolution of how things are conveyed and media is given to people now?
I think it was an inevitable journey.
Okay.
So sports and news kind of follow along the same line.
They're the last thing that we watch live.
Like if there's some huge emergency in the city, yeah, you might go to social media to check it out,
but you're probably going to check in with your local news
to see what's happening.
If there's a big international event or something like,
God forbid a terror attack or something,
like you're going to the news
and you want to get the live information.
It's the same thing with sports.
It's the last thing that we watch live.
Everything else is on demand.
Everything else is on the internet.
It's on our own time.
And that shift happened in sports.
At the same time, it happened in news
because you used to have to be in front of
news to get the news. You used to have to be in front of sports center to get the highlights.
Once we were able to get them on the phone, the natural evolution of the consumer became,
well, I want to know what people think about it now. And because news shows like Fox News and CNN were
exploded. Like, this was all happening really when I was in college. Not so long ago.
A long time ago. It was a long time ago. It was a minute. It was a minute.
It was a minute. It was a long time.
No, but it's what I always wanted to be.
It's about O-Fo.
Yeah.
I graduated high school at O-4.
You did, so you've been out of college.
Oh, damn.
0-7.
She'd been out of college about 18 years.
This is all Googled.
It was happening when I was in college.
And I always wanted to be a personality, but it's why I went into radio.
Because I wanted to get the skill set to be able to do the shows that I'm doing now.
Yeah.
And long form, you know, talking was really only available.
on radio at that time.
These shows didn't exist.
Podcasts didn't exist.
But the point is,
the consumer kind of created that.
Like, you didn't have to watch sports
anymore. You could get the highlight.
You could get the stats.
You could get the reaction on your phone instantly.
So now I want to know what people think.
News was already doing it at a really high level.
And that's where people were going.
And they were getting outrageous ratings.
So sports kind of mirroring the things that we watch live
went in the same direction.
also I think that sports conversations have always been like this like this is how we have always sat around and talked about sports barbershop.
Yes.
So it just got translated to TV.
And when it gets to the network level or the national level, you're going to talk about the Cowboys.
You're going to talk about LeBron.
You're going to talk about controversy.
You're going to talk about the things that most people are talking about.
And so I can't say that it ruined sports television.
I think sports television and television in general changed.
This is a really long,
and technical inside baseball answer.
Not get this shit off.
But I do think it's changed again.
Like I think panel shows are what people want now.
People want multiple perspectives.
They don't necessarily want to see two people arguing across from each other.
Yeah.
So I think it's changed again.
No, we'll say.
I agree with the podcast damn near is like the,
I don't know.
I just think of athletes more.
of a voice to speak on what's real
instead of like skipping Shannon
just going at it and just that is what
it is. Yeah. I take that for it. And
athletes have a perspective
obviously that people who haven't played
do not have.
But you also need entertainment.
You need fun. You need somebody
to move the conversation around.
So I think it's just evolved. And I love the athletes
are in the space now. It should never
have been this crusty old media guy
decides what someone's story
is. That's a fact.
Like, that's, that's bullshit.
You know, I'll never forgive baseball.
Barry Bonds is like, what are we talking about?
Barry Bonds is like, being a Hall of Famous
because he was rude to you?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Who gives me to fuck who you are?
Crusty old keeper of the gate?
That's fucking bullshit.
So I think of more voices are always better.
No, I'm rolling.
Yeah, that's what I always say.
I could go to school.
I could study.
I could watch to my eyes bleed.
I can never tell you more basketball than Jeff's heat.
Like, that's just not what it does.
there, somebody who lived this life, who played in his life.
There's nothing you can say to somebody who went through those things, even though you can
love it and study it.
It's just a total difference that people just have to respect as well.
Yeah, but opinions are opinions.
Like, I don't, if he's like, this is what it is, that's what it is.
But if we're, you know, having a conversation about what do you think about this?
I can have my opinion.
You can have your opinion.
If it's a completely unprovable thing, then we're just talking about it.
I think a lot of people, like Stan Van Gogh ain't going to know the game.
For sure.
Yeah.
He's the coach.
Yeah, like he knows.
I love staying on the call.
So him and Jeff can have a real-life ball talk
and it don't feel no way.
Nah, because he's been in the trenches with me.
Yeah, so I'm saying, that'd be like the difference, I feel like.
But then you got to do it with just the basketball nerds talking about advanced stats.
And it's like, bro, you can't say none to these people who didn't do this at a level
that you could never fathom, bro.
Like, the conversation is a totally different thing.
I think that's the disconnect too.
I think players respect the coaches.
It's just the people that they know ain't even been a part of their game, football, whatever,
that they feel away about when they say some crazy.
crazy shit.
I also think people like, your opinion is not a fact.
Yeah.
Like you can, you can say like based off of the information I have, the games that I've
watched, the experience that I've had around the game, this is my opinion about this.
But I think sometimes people get egotistical about their opinion.
Like, this is what it is.
That's not how facts work.
That's true.
Your opinion is not a fact.
And I think when you start talking about your opinion like it is a fact or you start
being disrespectful, then it's hard for players, for sure, to take you seriously.
But I also think at some point you lose the audience, too, because you're speaking in such
absolutes that it's like, we know you've never played the game.
We know what your resume is.
And you're talking about people that, even if you're the worst player in the, I'm sorry,
you're the worst player in the league, the worst player in the league will cook you.
On their worst day.
You're talking about people like their bums.
Like, these are the one percent.
of the 1%
just put a little respect
you got too much
base in your voice
yeah I feel that too
but I feel like
athletes do too
like when we just talk about rap
you ain't never rap
and it could get into a heated argument
no motherfucker
Jayze is better than Biggie
you know what I'm saying
people do have this
that's just my opinion
yeah people are still human
at the end of the day
that's why I don't harp
too much on it
like people pick and choose
what they really care about
we was talking at St. Elmo
she said that like
Kareem in them year
didn't matter
this is this is like live
She said Karim is the goat, but like the rest of the people that played back in the time, it doesn't matter.
And I was like, damn, that's crazy you said that.
Because I was never played.
I know how hard it is you to be in that locker room and do that.
And you just say that like Kareen era didn't matter.
It's crazy.
The reason I'm at peace with this slander is all of it is recorded.
Like, we have mics on the whole time we had this conversation.
So how do you feel about Kareem's era?
I actually think, well, Kareem's era is.
but but but but but Kareem specifically
I actually think Kareem if we were all keeping it funky
Kareem is probably the goat like it probably starts with Kareem
and then we could go to everybody else he's better than Joker
he is he was great his entire life
high school college NBA
A champion everywhere he went could play in any era.
What about his teammates?
What about his teammates?
Are they just as good?
Like, could they play in any era?
I mean, magic could.
Yeah.
But I...
Can't it with 10 other people?
Sure, but doesn't that speak to the greatness of Kareen?
Yeah.
Corrine.
I'm stamped.
100%.
Yeah, he is.
But I think we skip over him, is all I'm saying.
He's trying to make it seem like I was like Kareem was shit.
No, no, no.
You said Kareen was good.
He said the era.
The era was.
I'm getting on that.
No, no, no, he cleaned it up.
I'm talking about the era.
How do you feel,
tell your truth about the era?
How do we fight the old heads?
Yeah.
Because when we bring up Bill Russell,
he got leverings,
we don't be getting back on the fuck.
80s, 80s on down.
I'm asleep.
I told you.
I'm asleep.
What do you do that for?
What does that mean,
rest of the OG?
I'm saying, I mean,
is Bill Russell the greatest player of all time?
No.
I mean, not to me.
How do you feel?
No, I don't think Bill Russell's the greatest player at all time.
I think he's an incredible player.
we just we just we're just fine
I'm just basically
we just saying that
I'm not nice thing to put me in
I think I think every era is important
to the history of the game
I'm not being like I'm not
I'm not trying to be political about it
I really do think it's
it's almost impossible to compare eras
we're talking about
food training
just the athleticism alone
civil rights
civil rights
They were smoking cigarettes in a half-time,
and shit like that.
You couldn't drink from a water fountain,
you can't smoke on the, like,
you can't fire a cigarette right now.
Yeah.
At halftime.
No, but in 1980, you could.
I ain't gonna lie, if you smoke a Newport
in halftime, we get 30, you cold.
You go.
I actually would respect, for sure.
If I had to smoke an entire cigarette right now,
it would be my last day on the service.
Oh, God.
There's no way.
She liked the era of, like, Charles Oakley, though.
I do.
I do.
I do.
Like the 80s, early 90s.
Yeah.
I mean, I enjoy, I think it's a better game, a better product now, I should say.
But, you know, I like the little animosity.
Yeah.
But it was real rivalries, though.
Yeah.
Yes.
That part, I think, is important.
I think villains are very, very important to any game.
I think you need people to root against.
And I get it.
There's a lot of money on the line.
If you're telling me, look, you got to get your shit together because it's going to be the difference
between 500 million and 70 million,
I am, what type of square would you like me to be today?
Yes.
I'm not saying shit.
I will, I will.
Yeah, yes.
So I get it.
But I do appreciate when someone is willing to be a villain because we need them.
We need, and not because people compile on them, it's because you need stories and you need
people to root against and you need to be able to overcome.
Like everything for a while felt very watered down.
And if you're not just a rabid fan, like, okay, you hate this team.
Why do you hate them?
Well, I've just always hated them.
Like, you hate any of the current players?
And not hate, like, actually hate.
I feel like it's crazy.
I even have to explain rivalries anymore.
It's like it's just not the same.
You're not supposed to be like a villain now.
Well, we were talking about a little bit.
I think Wembe really stepped into his villain era very quickly.
went from the darling to the villain, like, just like that.
And I hope next year he wild out.
I hope he gets 10 texts.
I hope we start air-boeing people in the face, bro.
It's time, bro.
Be the villain you deserve to be, bro.
Yeah.
I think Jaylon Brown's about to be one.
I think Jaylon Brown will be a villain.
He'll turn.
I like this art.
I'm rolling.
I think Jaylon Brown is really about to step into that.
Y'all got me fucked up.
Yeah, I could see that.
I mean, I guess I like him there.
So, but Philly is like an easy place to be a villain for everyone else.
Yeah.
Like, Philly will stand behind you.
If you're winning and you ride for Philly, they'll turn on you if you lose at all.
But immediately.
Immediately.
But I do think it's a good place to be a villain.
Like, you'll be supported by the fan base there.
It feels a little funny to be a villain as a spur because they just, like, haven't really had them.
But I do think he stepped into it, though.
I think it suits him.
I think Anne has the ability to be a villain.
I mean, he's obviously so well liked, but he, you know, he talks his shit and he has a very
aggressive style about him that I think suits that very well.
It's good.
Like, talk a little shit and just not, don't apologize for it.
But you know, I don't like, I hate when people try to be the villain and, you know,
it's clearly not cut off for them.
Like, even like the LeBriars in Miami, he was a fake villain.
It's like, LeBron, you're not a villain, bro.
Like, you're one of the most love people on his earth.
You may have him short, bro, but you weren't a damn villain, bro, because I feel like he had to
be.
There's a lot of people that hate LeBron, bro.
He faced scrutiny for sure, bro.
LeBron ain't a good.
When LeBron, he had to be.
He loved, bro.
Yeah, bro.
What's LeBron went to Miami?
They hated him.
He had to do that.
But I don't think being a villain suits LeBron.
It doesn't suit him.
But he was known nice, for sure.
And it was very silly in hindsight.
The whole thing was very silly.
John Moran, too.
If he come out and killed this year, I think he on pro take that role.
Oh, John need to be loved again.
I said, bro, yeah.
We need to be to buy that for job.
I'm very happy for John.
I think it's a great, great start for him.
I feel like everybody counting him out, bro.
We don't need him to be a villain, though.
We don't need to get all love for him.
We need to get him back in the light.
Yeah, we don't need him.
They are disrespecting the crowd, bro.
Switch the crowd, bro.
No, no, no, man.
The grenade, Tilly is one of the hardest things I've passed in this.
That was fire.
Hard, bro.
Elite.
That's filling material, bro.
You all that.
We need him to.
A real villain?
To be a square?
No, square.
I didn't just be love.
Turn it down.
We need a perception, bad road,
because they disrespect the job day too much.
I want them to be a villain.
Now, dang me to be the villain.
I want that to be a villain.
A villain suit stand very well.
It's fine.
And I do think, like, villains get, like,
I'm not saying in a way that you're a bad guy
or you're getting in trouble off the court.
You're just wanting to say what people won't say.
Say what people won't say.
Stand on your shit.
You know, to me, basketball, like,
that's what basketball is.
It's not, football is a violent sport.
You don't really need to talk shit in football.
You're already running full speed into another human.
You already got 400 pound seven foot men blocking each other.
Like you don't necessarily need the extra shit on it, you know?
It's like when they fight, you guys are hitting your, you have a helmet on.
Yeah.
You already, you're already violent.
Basketball to me at its core is so like it's contact, it's aggressive, it's shit talking.
It's I beat you.
You beat me.
But it's almost like a combat sport in a way.
Like at the ends where you just shake hands.
Like you just beat the fuck out of each other.
But then you shake hands.
That to me is what basketball is.
And I do feel like over the past few years, it's lost a little bit of that.
And I would like to see that back.
So when I say like Oaks era, like, yeah, obviously we can't go back to that.
No.
No.
But, you know, maybe.
Close a lot of people lay up.
When I be returned.
But you know, somebody in football, I think needs to start his villain era.
Lamar Jackson
Yeah, they've been disrespectful
The way that they break them on that list
It's fucking disrespectful
You know that's fake though
Somebody who should have been close to the MVP
Babe, babe, babe.
You know that's fake though, bro
Enough, bro
It's too much slant on his name
bro, I don't like when people
get that comfortable
disrespecting some of our stars
in these leagues
because it's other people
who don't do half this shit
or the accolades
and they just get all the love
just because somebody quiet
and they just go about the business
who you didn't get a lot of love
that shouldn't be getting that much love
over Lamar Jackson
somebody who
Justin Herbert
Oh Justin Herbert
I mean, he's solid, but, bro, his fan base is a mac in a way.
He's not going to say Jalen Hurts.
I'm not going to say Jailorz.
He hates too, though.
Y'all respected.
He got it done.
Even though I don't think he's a better quarterback, Lamarer, he got it done.
I don't disrespect chance when he gets to that point.
But, you know, my Philly hate is.
So much love.
Justin Herbert is so much love.
Yeah, they're a campaigning card.
That's the Derek White fan base that said they had a better season to Jail Brown.
That's the jailer.
Same game, for sure.
But Justin Herbert do not be getting past nowhere, bro.
He calls him.
Every year, they said Justin Herbert is on his way, boy.
That thing guy went nowhere.
Respectfully.
He's nice, though.
He's good.
He's good, but he's not better in Lamarge.
Y'all don't compare him to Derek White.
Yes.
The same people who said Derrick White had in the mess with the USA team.
That was him niggins, bro, tweeting.
Out of pocket.
Derrick White was.
He played over J-Town.
He did.
100%.
Steve Kerr.
You're talking about why she get crying.
Put him on the corner.
Yeah.
You're supposed to be arrested people while we told you.
You're supposed to say jail.
Hey, mom.
I'm a kid.
He said, Jim.
So, Justin, Hurvers, to jail.
Okay, I like that.
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Hey, this is Hayes Davenport.
And Sean Clements.
We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.
Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz,
and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show.
We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great.
Actually, can you help me shape this?
How about we flip it on his head, right?
How about we flip the script?
What is the surprise woman?
who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.
Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
I would never expect.
I would never set expectations for something like that to happen.
If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.
I'm always going to accept.
You know, Danny McBride, fine.
Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding.
I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you.
I was like, I was like, is that weed?
Nope, it's fragile masculinity.
Ben Stiller, no.
Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is.
You know what I mean?
They're like, oh, what's a state.
Everyone's so dumb except for you.
Fake.
Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life.
I don't care about your life.
and a lot of other big shots
that wouldn't be where they are without us.
Oh, and by the way,
Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show
and he wants to be a guest on every episode,
but he's just so busy.
Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app,
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On the new podcast Solita,
we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.
I can wait four hours for the next bus
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I chose option B.
I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by my.
because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.
I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility.
Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us.
Not a lot of people smile around here.
It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're
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Justin Herbert fans are
disrespectful to the game.
They take it too far.
Justin Herbert is an excellent player.
He's in a situation
where he's at a lot of coaches,
a lot of turnovers,
turnover.
That was a bar.
I think, listen,
I wish Justin Herbert was in Miami,
like very much.
He's a very, very talented quarterback.
At some point,
you have to be compared to your peers.
At some point,
your talent has to overcome at some point.
I'm not saying you need to win a Super Bowl.
It's so fucking hard to win a championship.
Like, we throw this shit out there,
Tom Brady, Mahomes,
like LeBron.
Talk to him.
Notcho.
Like, they've spoiled us.
Like, it's really, really fucking hard to do that.
I'm half to have an amendment.
I miss that one.
He said Jeff T while you was named after those fans.
I know.
He knows.
Yeah, you know.
He's fried.
He's a lot of the championship, bro.
You know, it wasn't hard for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got to do it.
That shit can't easy.
Hey, you'll put the anniversary pants.
But boy, Nach got through free.
Yeah.
You know what I'm done.
You know what I'm talking.
Hey, you know, that time my shoes.
man.
She was easy,
cut.
Justin Herbert,
I'm here to support,
bro.
I'm a fan.
What being
y'all is doing?
Nobody said with her fans.
Hey, come on, say, got it.
Me and y'all just put him
50 games six.
He's so talented.
Y'all compare him
with Derek White is crazy.
I am not going to, listen.
It's the same fan base
by this guy's gas in.
I'm also not disrespecting
Derek.
I don't know how Derek White got in this.
You put Derek White.
I did.
I am saying,
Justin Herbert is a great player,
but I'm saying at some point
you have to be compared to your peers.
If your peers are winning
MVP's, if your peers
are winning Super Bowls.
You can't be in the same,
at some point you had the time
to do something.
Yeah.
With a playoff game.
Because he's not Caleb to me.
He's not,
he's not Kelly.
He's not, no.
What happened?
He's not Caleb.
That great quarterback
up there in Chicago.
Yeah.
He called.
Speak.
I'm rolling with Caleb over there.
I think Caleb was great.
I'm really excited
for what Caleb's going to do
in Chicago.
Yeah.
And for what's been given
to both of those two gentlemen
and what they've had,
I understand the turnover.
Chicago's done a,
Chicago, for their history of doing nothing,
they've done a really good job about putting.
But Jay H. They used to have some crazy teams.
And you look at some of their personnel, too.
Yeah.
Especially on their defensive side.
I mean, obviously.
Jaylam?
No, the Chargers has some very good players.
The Chargers have, I don't think there's any excuses for Justin Herbert.
Yeah.
Like, Justin Herbert has to start winning playoff games.
That's it.
Caleb is on a trajectory that hopefully will bring a championship to Chicago.
Like that that is what should be expected of him.
And I think he is, he is now has the opportunity to step into that role.
Bring it, bring a trip to the, to Indiana.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That'd be crazy.
That'd be too one.
Two one down bears.
If you win a Super Bowl, bro.
I'm about to get the Bears tatted on my wrist.
Oh, that's nasty.
You know, had a fingernail pallas going.
It's up.
Oh, I talk with me also.
Niggas.
Hey, low.
Cuck.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
I'm talking about Caleb
Are we anti-Nail Paulsh?
No, that's not for me
I mean.
I mean, love he would love.
Don't get off.
No, love him, love what you want to wear.
I'm just saying like, his value is going to be so crazy
if he won the Super Bowl, bro.
That's already crazy.
Oh, yeah.
He's insane.
When he did in the playoffs this last year, bro,
even if then the loss was immaculate.
Yeah, he's turned.
Yeah.
I ask you this, if you could start a franchise right now,
say the Steelers, you got the first pick,
you got the Steelers,
and you can pick any player in the league or
now. Who would you be in the league right now?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm taking Patrick Holmes.
You still taking Pat?
Yeah. Like right now? Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn. I ain't going against a guy.
You taking Pat too? Uh, nah.
Do you not taking Pat?
He just said I ain't going against the guy and said, nah.
Don't know what are you going to get Mouser here? I'm going to get Mous Gears your first pick.
Yeah.
Oh, listen. I.
We can get a quarterback.
Well, no. You're getting fired.
I'm a count one.
Yeah, that makes sense.
You're getting fine.
I'm getting one of the best
defensive players lost off.
No, Miles Garrett is
absolutely
like the Rams should be favored to
Yeah, they're cheating.
They are cheating.
They're not actually cheating.
They're just better at everything
than everyone else.
Fucking pics.
You think Aaron Donald's going to come back?
I don't, I honestly did not believe
that that was a real thing.
They're trying to figure it out.
Because Shady was saying that forever.
Like, he's definitely going to come back.
And, yeah.
I think he is.
There's so much noise around it.
I'm playing with them all Madden every single time.
Yeah, he's not going to be in camp.
Yeah, he gets my team.
I can come back with my team, bro.
And I'm good by Aaron.
The Rams are an incredible.
I am kind of like an organization nerd.
The Rams are an incredible organization.
McVeigh is a great coach.
Legend.
The owner lets him do what he's supposed to do.
He hires well.
He brings in players, develops well,
drafts well.
They're just a great organization.
So that's an incredible move, but you will still get fired.
You have to have a quarterback.
I can get one.
What's you doing on Mondays?
Monday?
Yeah, what are you doing on Monday?
We did football.
It's like five in the morning.
Monday's at five in the morning.
Like six in the morning.
You live in LA, right?
Yeah.
What are you doing like a six in the morning?
Seven.
Seven.
I am getting up to go to Pilates.
Oh, don't worry.
We'll be sick of coverage.
We'll call you.
Don't worry about it.
Oh.
And why am I?
George Taylor.
Is this a joke?
I'm missing.
Oh, no.
I'm just trying to figure out.
You do that every Monday?
Or you skip some?
No, no, no.
Are you guys trying to get me to come on the show?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Oh, I can go on the show.
Like, everybody.
You zoom in.
We'll pay you.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
I was so huge.
I was like, um, it feels like a trap.
I don't know how much, you know what I'm saying?
We're five to movie right now.
I'm just trying to get it figured out.
I was told you guys didn't have proper lighting in here.
It looks good.
Damn.
I was joking with him.
Oh, I'm going to say, wow.
Who the fuck hated a heart studio?
It was wrong.
It starts out of all.
Seriously.
No, it was good in here.
We need you over there on that screen.
We'll get a beer.
Can I get a jersey so we can see you?
Oh, yeah.
As far as it?
We got you.
What kind?
$520 jersey?
I want my number.
What's your number?
Two or 33.
Scottie Pippet.
Why is two or 33?
Well, two because I was always small.
So two.
What's the number I could get?
Yeah, I never had two.
In my side.
What number you got?
2.20.
Shout to Rick Rock.
Shout to ABCD.
My number was like 157 of ACD.
There you got to be fucking.
Eric Coles.
That is nasty.
Now, why 33?
My brother were 33.
Okay.
Yeah, my brother was cold.
How was it like growing up?
They were 99 in the league.
He were 99 in high school.
But did you know he was going to the NFL and B?
such a big story.
I did not know.
And he didn't really know either.
He was a third round pick in 97.
It's not, it's a different world now.
Like, it was not, that was not a guarantee that you're making the league.
And he was going to Jimmy Johnson.
And I love Jimmy, but Jimmy was wearing a cold fucking program.
Like, two a days in the Miami Sun.
Like, Jay tells a story that he was like, I don't know if I can do this to my mom.
And she was like, oh, that's cool.
Like, you could come back and you could, like, join the military.
Damn.
Damn.
Damn.
I mean, that was real.
My mom is like kind of a,
she's really strategic about that.
She kind of did that to me too.
Yeah.
She knows her children where we'll complain about something or be like,
we're not going to do something and she'll be like, all right, well, do what you want.
And it's kind of like, wait a minute.
I don't like how that sounds.
That sounds like some bitch shit.
Yeah.
And then we don't do it.
But it's hard.
Like, it was really hard to make the lead.
It wasn't a guarantee he was going to do this.
It's not like you're, you know, you're obviously making a lot of money, but not
compared to what any of the environment of college or the NFL is now.
So no, definitely, definitely not.
But he worked really hard and he was undersized and used the speed and skill that he had to really change the position in a lot of ways because he was not highly touted at all.
Like everyone thought he was going to be too small to play the position.
I remember the first time I met Jonathan Ogden.
That's a big dude.
who was the biggest person I've ever seen in my life.
And I was staring, he was, he was at my brother's charity event.
And I was just, I couldn't stop staring at him, which is very rude, obviously.
And he kind of was like, hey, are you okay?
And I was like, I'm sorry, you're just like the biggest person I've ever seen.
And he started laughing at me.
And I was like, I'm, I just think it's crazy.
Like, I'm worried about my brother because I don't know what's wrong with him that he would think he could line up on the other side of a person that size.
Yeah.
and do anything.
Yeah.
That happened to me.
With who?
Dewan Jones.
He plays for the Cleveland Browns.
Oh, yeah.
Shout to Juan.
He's our young boy.
He's like 6-9.
He's probably the biggest person in the NFL right now.
He got the biggest hands in the NFL.
Yeah.
And I was like, I can get around you.
And he did that.
That shit was crazy.
At this size of years now.
This ain't no kid.
This is.
His young boy is doing this to him.
He said, well, you can't get nowhere.
He did that.
Didn't move his feet at all.
He didn't move.
He was like.
So yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, they're not.
They're not like the rest of us.
No, it's, it's, it's, I mean, obviously, he's a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest
seven to do it, but the, they're all that size.
So for Jason, yeah, that's, yeah.
That's now.
That's now.
6-8, 374.
He used to be over 400.
Yeah, he's tossing you.
Oh, yeah.
No.
It's not.
It's not.
Your brother, the throwback jersey is golden.
Come on, man, that teal joint.
I remember on NCB cribs, I feel like.
Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah. I said, damn, I got my money up.
I was sure.
I feel like they should bring it back.
But people don't want, people don't want to know.
Yeah.
I was fake.
I was just about saying people don't want to be straight.
They were fake.
Shout to you.
No, I was going to know.
No, shout to your brother.
Your brother had real money.
A lot of people who had fake houses.
This is a real life.
Really?
Yes, this is real life.
that.
It was like your brother
Penny Hardaway.
John Rue had a fake house
on that.
Yeah, Jarl rule.
Like,
Red Man had the best episode.
Yeah, Red Man had the trap house.
I thought that was Mariah Carey's house.
I mean, it was a couple.
We just said a mass majority of those was fake.
It was probably.
So that was the brother real house.
Yeah.
Yeah, what's his real house?
It's like Pint My Rye.
He had a bins too, didn't he?
I love Pimp My Rye.
You need a new alternator.
Here's a microwave for the truck.
What an amazing show.
I'm like an old school.
No.
See.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
It's crazy.
We're real cultural on this show.
She used her uncle crib.
Yeah,
3LW, yeah, we know it wasn't.
You are really putting me on.
I did not know this.
Okay, so not TLC through.
Don't put that,
don't put that smut on Bowie, man.
Damn, he ran in a for a ron.
Yeah.
That was our car.
Yeah, oh, that was my brother's, like,
that was his real shit.
Nah, yeah, we can tell you.
And that's ain't, don't tell me what I rented it.
Yeah, Jason walked around that before.
Yeah, this is mine.
Yeah.
Yeah, that pool.
Hey, Zbo pool table.
That was his house.
No, I do that was Zbo's house.
When I see that pool, I said,
damn, all right.
That's great.
I'm a old school reality TV show for a person, though.
Room Raiders.
Barby had a van just like that.
You stand there in my going to do that.
Shout to the height.
I was allowed to see him do a room writer.
That'd be fun.
Jeff out of pocket.
With the light.
And on that,
no.
I'm trying to be polite.
You know, he did my show earlier.
I love to see him with that blue light, gay.
Joy, with me, hot.
Oh, the motherfucking of a morsel comforter.
And that's how we're right.
We're just...
Is this how you treat your guess?
Actually, we treat them a lot worse, but we appreciate you.
Molly, tell you word to find you at.
Come on, man.
Tap in two shows.
Joy, what you're at.
Masked-assie-ass
me
Nah, I shouldn't do that
Because I edit that name about
Cool, we might have said
Oh, no
Yeah, we might do the head
We'll read us up for all right
Initial
My
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