Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Kam Jones on Pacers NBA Draft, CRAZY high school career, Derrick White comp

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 76 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Indiana Pacers 2025 NBA Draft pick Kam Jones! The promising, young PG is excited to get started in the league, and with Tyrese Haliburton out for the upcoming season, has a chance to shine early in his NBA career. Kam talks about his high school career in Memphis, and why he PLAYED CENTER before playing point guard! Jones also talks about playing under Shaka Smart at Marquette in his college basketball career, and how he helped motivate him to be an even more aggressive scorer. Jones also talks about why he thinks his game is like Andrew Nembhard and Derrick White of the Boston Celtics, and that those are the players he models his game after today. Plus, don't miss Jones and the guys talk about their best rappers and R&B singers, getting NIL money, his legendary game at Madison Square Garden, and so much more! #Volume #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're gonna introduce my man's last to my far left. We got my dog, Bishop B, hitting out the prior lease. How you doing, Nasci? What's happening, Nasci? Let's get to it, man. Show me, I can't mind. You know what I'm saying?

You know you keep your feet snagged, man. You got the AM1s on. For sure. You know what I'm saying? You know you keep your feet snagged, man. You got the AM1s on. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Now you grew up in Memphis, man. They rocking the Black Forces with the white laces out there, man. I don't know about the white laces.

All right. All right. I had some black forces. I kept the black laces in there though. Yeah. Okay, don't put the white. I'ma get you right though, Ken. Welcome to the city.

Okay, man. Welcome to the city, guy. Appreciate that. Yeah. To right my dog, young Nacho, young T, you got you what? Man, I'm chilling get you right though, Cam, welcome to the city. Welcome to the city, man. Appreciate that. Yeah. To right my dog, young Nacho, young T, you got you what? I'm chillin', man. Chillin', bro, we got a newcomer to the league, man, to the association, man, so excited for him,

excited for his journey, man, let you do the honors, DJ. Come on, man, welcome to the city, big dawg, man, all biggies, man, hail from Memphis, Tennessee, man, we got the one and only Cam Jones in the building, big dawg, appreciate you sliding on us, man, and welcome to NAP, my boy. So appreciate that, appreciate y'all having one, the only Kam Jones in the building. Big dawg, appreciate you sliding on us, man. And welcome to NAP, my boy. So appreciate that. Appreciate y'all having me.

I was excited to get on here. For sure, man. I seen those that drafted me. My boy said NAP Town was heading. I said, oh yeah, he really tapped in because everybody else be like, I'm coming to Indianapolis. I'm going to Indiana.

Yeah, in fact. The city had to stay all the above, man. But welcome to NAP, man. Appreciate that. First of all, man, we all talk about your career, man. You went crazy in Marquette, man. But how'd you get there, man? Going crazy in Tennessee. What was that like hooping down there the above, man. But welcome to that, man. Appreciate that. First of all, man, we gotta talk about your career, man. You went crazy in Market, man. But how'd you get there, man? Going crazy in Tennessee,

what was that like hooping down there in Memphis, man? Man, growing up, Memphis had some good basketball, some good players that some went into the league, some was very good college players. Growing up in Memphis, it was fun just being on the floor, being there. I knew I definitely wanted to get away with my college decision.

It was actually crazy because my high school coach was old teammates with a coach who was on staff at Marquette. And he basically ended up hitting them up. And then we went out there for a team camp. They recruited me for like a year, man. It took them a year to offer me. Now I pretty much committed a week later. I knew that's where I wanted to go.

Okay. I heard you played center at one point. Yeah, I played center my senior year in high school. I was the tallest player on the floor for real. We had a bigger football player, but he was a football player. He wasn't really, you know. Yeah, they all everybody football.

I'm in everybody's basketball team. He couldn't hoop for real though? He wasn't, hoop you know. They don't want everybody football. I'm in everybody's basketball team. He couldn't hoop for real though? He wasn't, hoop wasn't his main sport. He was, he had Clemson for football right now, so. Oh yeah, he's doing his thing. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah, he has a lot of football. Get it here and foul my boy.

Yeah, I definitely played the five, man. Did big man drills every day in practice at the skills balls. But it's crazy how that translated. Cause I made, I shot a hell of jump hooks this past year. Like jump hook and spin jump hooks. And you know, it was kind of just automatic just from all the work I put in that year.

So did you play one and five in high school or did your coach let you, you know, be versatile or? Yeah, a little bit. We had a, we had a younger point guard. That was, that was pretty good. So he had the ball most of the time. Okay. Okay. So that's crazy. Went from center to actually being a point guard that was pretty good. So he had the ball most of the time. Okay, okay. That's crazy, he went from center to actually

being a point guard, now about to be a point guard in the NBA. Ain't no way in hell Coach could've told me to play center. No, yeah, that's why I'm saying, I'm trying to figure out how you was finessing that, bro, with your game. I ain't gonna lie, bro, I was getting double, like in the post, catching the post catch, instant double. Got to make it work.

Nah, bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro, I swear to God, instant double. Got to make it work. Ryan, a lot bro, I swear to God, you're my new favorite player bro. I didn't know that bro. For you to play center and make it to the NBA as a PG bro, that's a hell of a journey bro. I thought he was posted, I thought he was just jumping center

and bringing the ball to the man. Yeah, you know what I mean, I might, right, you might get in the post cause you bigger than everybody. I got a smaller guard, but that for you to be a straight center, thinking we got this guard, we don't need you bringing the ball.

I used to bring it, I brought it, I ain't bring it up that much. Sometimes I get a rebound and take it, but yeah, we coaches be like four round cam. We try and feed it. Wow. That's crazy, I didn't expect that. Wait, you got recruited, what about AAU?

Yeah, okay, we're good for AAU. Oh, but you gotta, look, I'm sorry, I wanna get ahead, but you gotta explain that. Yeah, AAU is different, I played like the one, two AAU. Oh, okay, because I'm trying to figure out how the fuck you got recruited. I'm gonna show you. One kid came to the hospital,

yeah, we need your six-four center. I was like, yeah, I was like, no wonder it took them a year, they didn't see something. It's an explained center, I'4 center. I was like, yeah, I was like, no wonder it took him a year. They ain't see something. They just playing center. I don't know. Oh damn. It was fun though. It was definitely fun.

Yeah. And I respect your mindset, bro, cause you really locked in for you to be like, I'm going to mark it bro, but you got another point guard feeding me the ball. I would have had a problem. Yeah, I would have been like, he got to come off the bench, coach.

I gotta play the foul. I'm not, I'm playing the one, bro. You gotta do it. I've never heard that in my life, bro. When you have sat down, I've known Hella Bass, where I played before. You destroyed it. Played center in high school,

and we're the one that had you, you different, bro. Appreciate that. But for real, that probably helped you though a lot, because you probably became a good rebounder. Oh, definitely. Yeah, you know what I mean? You could see the floor, you could play multiple positions. You probably know one through five, obviously. But that probably helps your game expand, definitely. Yeah, for? You can see the floor, you can play multiple positions. You probably know one through five, obviously.

But that probably helps your game expand, definitely. Yeah, for sure. Especially in the paint, like scoring in the paint, finishing, yeah, most definitely. Markelle, was the main people on you, or did you have any other looks? I had some good mid-majors. Okay.

Yeah, I kinda, I knew I wanted to go high major, and I knew it was possible for me, so once Markelle offered, I was like, yeah, this is pretty much where I wanna go. Memphis didn't offer? No. Was Penny there then? Yeah, he had to be.

It's all right, bro. I ain't tripping. It happens, bro. Is there a rumor, is this rumor any true, that Wake Forest was interested in you? I think Wake Forest might've show interest. They weren't recruiting me for real. Okay.

Yeah, don't worry about it. We make mistakes all the time. Did they give you the ball right away or you had to come in and you know what I mean? Marquette, man. Coach Smart was, he really let us play. So like, he kind of seen what I could do. Yeah, here you go, man.

But once he seen what I could do a little bit, you know, he would pull me to the side as a freshman. Like, you know, when you get the ball, go score, go be aggressive. And he'd be talking shit, like, like, go score on this ass cam, score on him. Yeah, it's funny. Now that's a player's dream, though. Most definitely, he's definitely a player's coach.

Like, he say that in the games, like, I had a ball on a dude, he fries ass, fries ass. Like, just go. That's him. Yeah, for sure. Oh, that's my coach, man. That's him. Yeah, for sure. Oh, hey, that's him for sure. For sure. Kill him.

I be like, kill her. Kill her. She don't wanna go. Yeah, for sure. Hey, that used to be the teen team catchphrase before it fits like, kill her. Kill her, bro. Kill her.

That's dope, cause a lot of people, what they say, well a lot of people that I done met through this shit, they was like, when they get to school, it be different than actual recruitment. It's like damn bro, this ain't how you came to my house and told me how shit was gonna be. So you'd have had that instant love thus far.

Then one of my kids getting recruited by Marquette. I might have to tell him the truth now. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's funny. Obviously, man, you went to Marquette for hoop, but we know I'm saying boxing. Was that your first love too? No, that wasn't my first love.

I pretty much picked up love for being around my dad. He liked to watch a lot of fights, a lot of big time fights. He grew up a huge Mayweather fan, watched a lot of his pay per views, yeah, for sure. I pretty much, when I got to Milwaukee, was able to find a good coach, Coach Angel up there, good facility up there. You know, I was just training up there for years.

Who your favorite fighter? Man, Errol Spence up there for years. Who you fight your fighter? Man, Errol Spence. Okay. His last fight was rough. Man, he got the shit beat out of him. Shout out to him. Bud went crazy though. Bud did go crazy.

Yeah, I rock with Spence though. It's some good up and coming young fighters too. Like who you like? I'm in the box. I like Motin. Okay. I like Abdullah Mason. He's probably- He nice though. Yeah, for sure. I'm in the box man. I like Motin. Okay. I like Abdullah Mason. He's probably-

He nice though. Yeah, for sure. I just hope, nevermind, he nice. What you hope? I just hope it continue. And I hope he have some good, I hope he fights some good fighters. You know how it go like,

no shade to Tane Davis and them, but they don't really fight the best fighters all the time. I feel what you're saying. Like Shakur, he fought some fighters, but he ain't fought nobody that really nice. Yeah, he waiting on that big time fight. At least it seems like it. It seems like it.

Yeah, I like boots too, man. Boots is nice. Boots is nasty. Oh yeah, one of the ones. You nice in the ring? I'm silent. I just fought a few times. Nobody ever knocks you out. Nah, I ain't never knocked down yet.

Okay. Okay, you a big nigga, bro. I ain't ever knocked down yet. Okay. Okay. You a big nigga, bro. Yeah, I know, yeah, in fact. My boy, my boy. And the Turner boxing now. We got it. Oh, he's a big man.

He teachin' me the footage, man. Oh, wow. He teachin' me, man. I didn't know that. He in the ring, he's like, he told me set up a celebrity match for him and Lance. Ooh. Him and Lance?

That's some good ones right there. I was like, all right. Them celebrity matches make money, bro. For real, for real. Nah, straight up. They did a real boxing right now. Voices tapped in with that. Man, that Tarzan white fight had me weak, bro.

You too, bro. He was talking about you, bro. The way he jabbed you, bro. Yo, that's funny, bro. I didn't know we was gonna talk about that, bro. That was a classic fight. That was the stiffest jab I've ever seen. Bro, I was, when he did the ring walk, walked in and stopped, kept going.

He might have to be a reoccurred guest. He act like us, bro. He might just have to come get us the niggas on the season. All right, man. I would gladly do that. Yeah, for sure. For sure, man. Obviously you had a great career, Marquette, man. But like you said, freshman year got acclimated. What was that time where you felt like,

all right, I'm ready, y'all, this my team? Man, right when that, it took me a while to get over. That sweet 16 lost my junior year. And man, I'm still getting over how we went out senior year. But yeah, once I got over, pretty much, you know, Coach pulled me into his office and was like, yo, Ken, I'm not gonna over how we went out senior year, but yeah, once I got over, pretty much, you know, coach pulled me into his office and was like, yo, Ken, I'm not going to go on a portal and fish for no point guard because I think there's something you can do for us

at this level for this team. So man, I put in a hell of a work over the summer, working on my game, watching individual film with teammates, getting our two man game right. Learning how, you know, learning more about them as people, learning more about what they like, what they like to do on the floor. And we was able to just, you know, go out there and do our thing.

It was a lot of fun for sure. Well, it was definitely big easy, definitely not an easy conference to play. It was one of your favorite games. One of your favorite moments in college, you know what I'm saying? Obviously you went crazy. Oh, just in college in general?

Mm-hmm. Probably getting the triple double against Purdue. Because Purdue, we owed them. They had beat us my sophomore year. We pretty much had them. We played them here. Gave that game away. Then we lost to them in the Maui Classic Championship.

That was painful, very painful. It's a story behind that. But yeah, so we played in my senior year and we was like, bro, y'all not beating us, bro. So that was pretty much our mindset. For y'all to be in the same car for the, for y'all to play them three times. It's crazy.

Yeah. We turned it into a home at home after the Maui game. So my senior year and they going to play them here this year coming up. Okay. Okay. I watched y'all play. We got a kid named Ryan. Damn, what was Ryan's last name?

Conwell. Conwell. I always get that nigga name. Xavier? Yeah, Ryan Conwell, he a pipe kid. Yeah, but I seen y'all have a little duel in the garden. Real duel. Yeah, y'all both was going crazy.

I hate our opponents, honestly. Damn. Okay. I ain't gonna lie, He was frontin' that. He was goin' crazy. He had 38. Yeah, y'all both was goin' at it. What you know that?

Like 26, if you assist. Okay. They had a duel. I was like, damn. That's what, I had seen you play before that, but I was watchin' Ryan. I ain't gonna lie, I was watchin' Ryan. Cause he little bro.

And I was just like, damn, damn, how they going at it? Bro, he was not missing, bro, then there are all threes. Facts. That was one of your toughest matchups right there? This past season, yeah. I liked Luis, or Louis from St. John's, he was all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, we, the Big East, like you said,

Big East is a tough conference. It's always tough every year, like, even, like, Seton Hall only win in the conference was against UConn. It was really like no game you could just pull up and just BS your way through. Yeah. I be mad as hell. From UConn, they get out there with one game,

it's against us. Yeah, in fact, they, man, that ain't the first time they lost to Seton Hall, honestly. Yeah, it get tricky in the big East, bro. But they had back to back champs. Yeah. Could you play for a coach like that? Coach Hurley?

Yeah. Keep it real. Yeah, I feel like he loves his players. I mean, he just a little, he got a little screw loose. All coaches gotta have a little screw loose. Yeah, he different. Especially in college, bro, yeah. He different.

Yeah, obviously, I'm not too fond of him, but you know, I'm rocking with Coach Smart. Nah, yeah, yeah, I was just saying, that style. Yeah, sure, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he be on one. Yeah, I'm trying to get him to start acting like that. That's why I'm here. Nah, you ain't gonna do that, you ain't got that?

I'm too cool, bro. I'll curse you out, bro. I'll say, I'll make a joke afterwards. It's like, boy, you sad as hell. All right, boy. Love you. Yeah, love you, boy. make the joke afterwards. It's like, boy, you sad as hell. All right, boy. Love you, son. Yeah, love you, boy. You little ugly.

Ugly, you little ugly ass. That's the clip. Bill was like, he was like, your stats, don't worry about your stats because they suck, quite frankly. Yeah, that's me. Don't be an idiot. That's me.

Hey, boy, y'all all trash. That's what I've been telling them. Ain't none of y'all going to the NBA tomorrow, bro. They be like, what? I'm like, y'all all trash. That's what I've been telling them. And none of y'all going to the NBA tomorrow, bro. They be like, what? I be like, y'all, they sophomores. Duh. Right, that don't even make sense. Like, none of y'all going to the league tomorrow.

They be like, dude, I'm going to class, nigga. You stupid. Yeah. Shout out to them boys, man. For sure. For sure. All right, man, before we leave off Marquette, man, talk about that NIL, man.

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That's the first time we got some real love about the NIO. Yeah, NIO was crazy. Uh-oh, man. You got Yeah. It was the first time we got some real love about the NIO. Yeah, NIO was crazy. Uh oh, man, you got his ass. You got his ass. You got his ass. Yeah, NIO was good, man. It was ran real well at Marquette.

Had a very good collective, very good people in that job, in that profession, you know, NIO people to help put your name out there, get you brand deals or whatever. It was love, man, for sure. Nah, that's fine. When I seen my boy doing the Crush commercial, I said, okay, they tapped in now.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that was love. That Crush commercial was love. It was bad. They chose a rough time. My cut was ass, but. They ain't let you get prepared. Nah, yeah.

As long as you got it done, man. Yeah, for sure. It was all good. Let me ask you this, because Marquette, Brand Joy, right? Yeah. What's that like? Did y'all get P's?

Did y'all get special P's? We got P's every year. Man. What y'all get? We got some sixes, some ones, some low ones, some fours and like some- Oh them fours crazy. Like some 38s or something.

Yeah the fours. What color are the fours? The fours are the ones. I could pull them up. They like, they got all Marcher colors on them. Yeah, he gonna pull them up real quick. I hope it ain't the fours I'm thinking about. Yeah, I think it is.

The P's are they got. Oh, D. It's these fours. Yeah, I hope it ain't the fours. I'm thinking of the blue ones. Yeah, I think it's the yellow, the M on the twey joints. Yeah.

I ain't seen them. I think it. Them right there? Yeah, I think it is. Oh, you got the M on the sway joints. Yeah. I ain't seen them in, I think it- Them right there? Yeah, I think it is. Oh, you got them? Oh, them crazy. Hold on, I don't know. I don't know if this is- You might not got them.

Yeah, you might get them. Yeah, you might get them. Hold on, you don't know if you got them. Nah, them threes. They're nasty. So I ain't seen them fours in a long ass time. I'm not saying you got to tap in, man. You got them.

You quit and measure my cat, take care of my boy, if I didn't, man. You gotta tap in man. You got them. Quintin, Major Marquette, take care of my boy if I didn't man. Yeah, them is fire. Damn. And that's him. Yeah. Tap in. For sure.

Now that's a five-part going to a Georgia school. They be lazy. Yeah, who is it right here? Ooh, damn, I did not see them. Them for sure. Oh, damn. Them freaky. Them the yellow ones.

Let's see. Yeah, there we go, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Damn, little, little lemon. All right, yeah, them different right there. Yeah, there it go, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Damn, Lil Lil Lemon. All right, yeah, they look different right there. Yeah, them cups. They're hard. You know how nasty you gotta be to wear a rare P

with some Lil Lemon. That is not a fucking- No, that's OD, man. That's OD. Nah, nothing. Nothing. Them are right there, right there. Yeah, I'm right with them.

Them fours, you talking about, I think a few, like a while ago they got them. Ah, yeah, them more kept them. Them fours you talking about, I think a few, like a while ago they got them. Ah yeah, them more kids. Them crazy, yeah. They were so, yeah I need to know. Them fire. Yeah, for sure.

Nah, them crazy. Obviously man, you declared, how was that pre-draft workout? What was that like, man? Man, my pre-draft experience was a little interesting because I got hurt in the combine. I had a grade two hamstring, like strain or tear. Sat out for a few weeks. Then I was able to go to a few pre-drive workouts and do like one on no shooting. So I was just pretty much

there on the sidelines, giving energy, talking shit, just encouraging people. But yeah, it was cool. And then I shot at the end of the workout. So it was pretty cool, pretty drive process. Jor, you're kinda similar to you. You had to ask a couple stops. That was mine right there. I had a spring in my MCL. I had a grade two spring in my MCL. I had to sit out like that.

I didn't really do no shooting drills or nothing, but very similar to yours. You went to somewhere? Yeah, I went to Philly the day before the drive and I shot in Indiana. That was it. How many stops you do? Seven.

Oh dang, you went on a real tour. Yeah, real tour. Oh wow. All right, you in the league now, man. So what's something you feel like you can work on on your game? What's one of your weaknesses? Man, first and foremost is getting stronger,

getting my body stronger. You know, this dude's been in the league a long time. Bodies are much more mature. They know how to train. So, you know, that's one area. Making sure, just getting faster, getting stronger, making sure my body's prepared and just cleaning everything up with both hands, passing,

finishing around the rim. You know, my lateral movement for defense because you know, we can be picking up full. Yeah. You know, my lateral movement for defense, because you know, we finna be picking up full. You know, just constantly working on that, getting reps and that, you know, because I'm looking forward to, you know, I'm already doing it, just adapting to the pace of way,

you know, really embodying that, embodying what that means. Obviously we know you got drafted by the patient. I wanna ask you, catch that. I ain't never seen a nigga catch a boy like this. Obviously, you know, you got drafted by a patient when I asked you Praise this I got it. All right. No! No! There it is, Mike, we got it. How we catch a bullet? Ken Griffey laughing hard. That motherfucker's about to get Griffey.

He back there rolling, ain't he? My father's saying about me. Aw, man, this ain't no ice, son. This about KM today, man. I'm proud of him. My father, my father. He's talking about Ken Griffey. He's going in, all right.

Here we go. All right, but we know you got drafted by a fake. He going in, all right. All right, but we know you got drafted by the Patriots. He's rolling. It's raw right now. Where did you think you might go? Did you have any teams that was interested in you or any idea where you got drafted at? Or a promise? I didn't get a promise.

Well, I knew I was going to Indiana when they traded up to get 38. I had talked that out with my agent. We figured this is a good spot for me to be at. And it's somewhere I wanted to go. We're like, I only wanted to, well not wanted to, I guess preferred. I really didn't care where I went.

But if you would have had to ask me, it was a few teams that I preferred. Indiana was one of them for sure, so. I'll try to get him. He's on the line. That's a'll try to get him. He's something around there. That's a cool way to do it, Ken. Swipe it up. I'll try to bring it in like a lightening bug.

That's two. That's two, Ryo. Listen, y'all know, I forget we on a, all right. That's two. But it's funny because your style plays like perfect for the Patriots, obviously, man. You in college get awards, it's just turnover ratio, a team that gets up and down the court,

obviously you can make good decisions, man. You watch the team, obviously, in the finals, man, just like I can lock in with them for sure. Yeah, most definitely. That's what I was thinking watching them the whole playoffs, like, you know, I rock with this system, just how they running and playing. Similar to Mulholland, similar to Marquette.

Yeah. You gonna get a lot of opportunity. You gonna get an opportunity, I was about to say, it's a big opportunity with Tyrese being out for the season. Obviously they got TJ McConnell, they probably got some other guards that we're not thinking of right now. I'm not sure who they picked up.

They probably picked up somebody in free agency, but you gonna have a big opportunity though. It is open for you. That's one thing about this. I wish you would have gained pause on different circumstances, you know what I'm saying? A lot of turmoil going on right now, but you definitely get a chance to play.

Y'all love that for you, my boy. I'm looking forward to Summer League, getting to know those guys and building those relationships on the floor. Most definitely. Hey, Summer League, man, we were talking about the OG days. Boys used to be hooping at Orlando side gym. That was low key to fire in Summer League situation.

Paces used to play in that every time too. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, nah. Everybody in Vegas now? Oh, it's another one too, like in Utah still. Y'all going to Vegas, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I gotta be there for, woof. We'll be ready for that weather, boys. Yeah, I know it's banging out there. We ain't there two weeks. Yeah, I might just wear the beater. For sure, that's okay. That's my swag. Real baby boy swag.

If you wear the beater, you definitely the Black Mourner. For sure, yeah. All right, if I could baby boy swag. If you weren't a beater, you definitely in a black one. All right, if I go get you a pair before you go get yours. Just make sure the beater white. Don't wear no gray beater. Not the gray one, the gray one's fake. He might have a black one. He got a black one.

He got a black one. I got a black one. He got a black one. You got a gray beater? I got gray beaters. Yeah, I can tell. All you young niggas, bro, stop wearing gray beaters. He from Memphis, bro.

He from Memphis, bro. I knew you had a gray beater, bro. Hey, what is that? Hey, Mike. Hey, Mike. I knew that nigga had a gray beater. That's crazy. A gray beater's crazy.

No gray beaters in them. No gray beaters. Don't say that for the family union at the crib. I'ma lock in. I normally, I keep the, I keep, I order fresh packs on rotation. I'ma just slide the gray ones off. Yeah, bro, all white.

This gonna haze white, bro. Okay, let's order it. Ordering a multicolor pack of beaters is crazy, Kim. You are 955. I'm fine. A gray beater like white draw. I get black, a pack of black, a pack of white. And then it's another pack like with variety in there.

Okay. We're going to cut the variety. The variety pack got to go. Just have the extra white with it. Hey man, we heard it right away, man. You a big R&B guy, man. Who's one of your favorite R&B artists? Who you rocking right now?

Yeah, Rhyde Way my favorite of all time. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Okay. Yep, my new favorite player, bro. We locked in, bro. I bet.

You can now be wearing a gray beater listening to Rhyde Way, bro. We gonna call a hotline, make sure you go K. Yeah, that's best. that's outside singing great light. Don't seem right. In the great beat. And Craig with some forces. That would be what about old school R&B.

Anybody grew up on. Mike is also bullshit today. What's old to us though? Probably that's why I'm trying to. He got the ages. So go ahead. I was just. What's old to us though probably is like. That's why I'm trying to, he about to age us. So go ahead. I was just, I fuck with Kells. I swear to God, hey, nigga, all my mama, you good.

You good no matter what. Yeah, father 20 Kells, he is officially father 20. I was wondering why he was over here looking nervous in the motherfucker, you was confusing me, nigga. But don't ever be ashamed to say, Kells on this one, but we scream Kells on here. 520Kell, do you have your passport? Do you have your shot?

He is part of the team. What are you, boy? 520Kell. My guy. Listen, man, Kells did what he did, boy. He started going, man. Yeah man. We on, we on, who, who's he calling?

Listen man, I said, listen. Yeah, tell him, he'll tell you. Listen man, Robert did that shit, bro. Yeah, we don't like Robert. Yeah, man. Give Robert the chair, bro. Yeah, yeah. Just bring Kelly back in, hey y'all, bro.

Yeah, we just want R. Kelly, we don't want Robert. We don't want Robert. Yeah, we don't want Robert, We don't want Robert, we don't care about Robert. Robert did that shit. He was over here like, oh lord. Yeah, you can say it over here, cause we ride with R. Kelly, we don't ride with Robert. We don't ride with Robert. Default Robert, R. Kelly, he still gets left in the way

of what he's showing. How you feel about the rappers though, man, from your city? You got some dope ones from Memphis. Yeah, it is definitely a good amount. Is that like a thing like, you know what I'm saying? Like I know Yohgadi does his birthday bash and stuff there but y'all got bag, y'all got youngster, y'all got glow.

Come on, Dolph, R.P. Dolph, everybody bro. A lot for sure. Yeah. Yeah, keep going on one of them that I can get into. Pooch Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep going on. I can get into. Yeah. Push I see real catchy.

Free push I see. And he still like? Still. He live his raps. Yeah. Boy still here. Come on home. He on his way though.

I just didn't know what I wanted to add. Like what that music scene was like though. Man, it was like around my junior senior year high school, Memphis was on a crazy run. All these people that you just named was kind of on the up and coming. That's all you heard, just in cars, riding around throughout the day in the gym.

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, when I'm in the gym, I'm more of a, like a mellow type guy. Like I play like no cap. I played Kills in there, Drake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But when I didn't have to, especially in Memphis, you know, it was, it wasn't that.

So I learned a lot of, a lot of songs from that. So yeah, I definitely learned about a few artists just listening around. Okay, okay. Yeah, chill, chill, he like us. He like me more like they like, they like new shit. I don't like none. I love Raui from NBA.

I like Raui. I'm rolling like nothing. I love Raway from NBA. I'm rolling with bro. No cap for sure. No cap is solid. He gets no play in my rock. There ain't no disrespect. I don't know him. I ain't tapped in.

My playlist don't go past 2007. Yeah, he get wicked bro. You come to one of my parties, you invited, but it's definitely gonna be. And when was you born in? 01? 02? wicked, bro. You come to one of my parties, you invited, but it's definitely gonna be you. When was you born then? Oh, one? Oh, two? Oh, two?

Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, boy, when you was born, boy, I was turning. Damn, we owe them. I was turning. Oh, no. Jesus. I was going crazy, boy. I was listening to Lil Jon.

Ooh. What the click that you throwing up? Oh, great thing. B.I.B. and China White, dude. Yeah, what? We was going crazy. Woo, 2002. We old heads, right?

That was an anthem for a lot of ass-whoopin' stuff. Damn, what 2002 we was with, 7th, 8th grade? Yep. Damn. Literally. Crazy times, man. If I went to school, I went 03. Mm-hmm.

You went 02. 02. Yeah. Damn, Ken. And growing up in Memphis, was you a Grizzly fan by chance or one team? Nah. Who'd you rock with? I was never really a Grizzly fan. I kind of grew up a players guy. Okay, Ken. Growing up in Memphis, was you a Grizzly fan by chance? Or one team? Who'd you rock with?

I was never really a Grizzly fan. I kind of grew up a players guy. Okay, okay. I used to like Kobe a lot. For sure. Steph. So those are my top two players that I really liked. But that grit and grind era was,

that it was cool like that with Tony Allen. Tony Allen, Zach Randolph, Martin Sawley. Steve Boesky. That big three. They turned Memphis up for real. They really did. Mike Conley from MarCity. Yeah, for sure.

I heard he from, shout out Mike. They had a crazy run. Who you will model your game after or do you see yourself similar to anybody in the league right now? Yeah, for sure. I was thinking, like in my interviews, I always gave comps like Derrick White.

Okay. I'm kind of like a, in my interviews, I was actually saying Nim Hart, kind of guys like that that can play one and the two. Yeah. Do what you need, can catch and shoot. Okay. Can handle the ball, make the right play with the ball.

Don't turn it over. Those are two of my main guys. Got you. That's a valuable player right now. I ain't gonna lie. Everybody want a Derek White or a Nimrod. So it's a Mario game after them. Yeah, you, them are the ones.

The two holidays, all them. People that can go out multiple positions and play multiple positions. People love them. Before we get out of here, until you got advice from the youngster, man, going into his rookie year. Man, be the first in the gym, last to leave.

That's just like, be a gym rat. Like I swear to God, everything that you thinking you wanna do is gonna be there in year 10, 12, 15, 20. My biggest advice, the girls ain't going nowhere. That was my kryptonite. I lived in Atlanta as a rookie. I went out. So I'm telling you, they're gonna be there in in the summer. They're going to be there everywhere.

So throughout that year, stay in the gym, first to leave. I mean, first to get there last. I was the first to leave, don't be me. The first to get there last to leave every single time, man. Live in the gym, bro. Yeah, definitely. I'm going to do that. Yeah, live in there, bro.

It ain't nothing else to do, especially you and Indy. I'm going to tell you, you can call us anytime. We be down here, we be chilling, but we'll come shoot with you too. I'll probably bust your ass in one on one still. Okay, we gonna see. That shit light. Uh-oh, listen, listen.

I'm old, but I still can hoop. Sure. No, but just live in the gym, bro. I'll jump to the side, bro. That's why Indy ain't like a perfect place to come because it ain't too much going on. You still can get out and shit, but live in the gym, bro. I'll jump to the side, bro. That's why Indiana like a perfect place to come because it ain't too much going on. You still can get out and shit, but live in the gym. Call me for all your off-court activities, bro.

You're gonna say, yeah, bro. If you got any questions, bro, you need to know where to go, where to eat, we got you, bro. Just step here, bro. We'll make sure you take care of the show, man. Yeah, I appreciate y'all having me on, man. It's easy, bro.

Everybody in the city gonna rock with you too, just because you came. Man, a lot of people don't come on the show when they first get here. You know what I mean? They don't do that. You're actually the first-facer. We sat down.

You are. You are the first-facer. Second, who else can? Miles, Miles sat down. Miles our guy. Sure. RIP to Miles. See, Miles had the script in his head.

He just planned on leaving anyway. We hoping you stay here for at least 10 years. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my dog, Miles. Mous had the script in his head. He's planning on leaving anyway. We hoping you stay here for at least 10 years. You know what I'm saying? Like it. Shout out to my dog, Mous. Shout out to Mous, man. Congratulations, man. I'm happy for you, congratulations,

but we got a new Pacer in the building. Shout out. Come on, man. Tennis squid, man, you know what I'm saying? Pacer playing for life, man. Happy to have you, man. Can't wait to see you crazy. Okay.

That's a big number. Yeah, it is. That's a big number in our city. J.O. held that seven down. Oh yeah. Yeah, defensive player of the year. Big seven. I'm gonna be a devil.

NBA in that seven. Yeah. I'm gonna be a gym rat. Yeah, you gotta be a gym rat, hold that seven down. I was about to say, don't pull that 44 out. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And he's like, you want to switch it up? That's 44 legendary, dog. Yo, walk that 44. Hey, man, wear that motherfucking summer league. Now that'd be fire. That's crazy. That 44 legendary, boy.

You're gonna leave that one below. For sure, man. Siddy, show love to Ken, man. Tap in, man. Have a great summer league. Have a great rookie year, man. We're gonna be rooting for you. Can city show love to Ken man, tap in man. Have a great summer league, have a great rookie year man. We gonna be rooting for you, can't wait to see you on the court man. We gonna be going along the whole journey bro.

We'll see you down there too bro. We'll be down there. There's a link up for sure. For sure man, you know what it is club 520. The Volume.