Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Murda Beatz on working with Drake & Migos, “Butterfly Effect” w/ Travis Scott

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Murda Beatz joins Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen in a special episode of the Club 520 Podcast! Murda talks to the squad about working with Migos and Travis Scott, and tells the story of what it was like to create the beat behind the hit record "Butterfly Effect." Murda also reveals his love for video games and why he's an elite gamer. Plus don't miss Jeff, Murda, and the guys talk about music sampling, working with Gucci and Drake, and so much more!Timeline:0:00 - Shout out Murda Beatz4:00 - First time working with Migos6:30 - Moment he knew he made it9:00 - Butterfly Effect11:30 - DJing shows16:30 - Working with adidas21:00 - Evaluating verses on his beats24:15 - Gucci26:30 - Working with Indianapolis30:00 - Music sampling33:30 - Artists on the come up35:45 - B Hen rapping Erk & Jerk35:30 - Smuggling Four LokosAll lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, we got caught in the building. you know what I'm saying shout out of God for show now be here you super tapped in you know what I'm saying this is the music buff right here on the show like how do you feel about like being like unknown for real no I'm saying though when people

people don't know this is murder beats for real like a lot of people confuse you with like Ensuring or other people are I think I'm a good level of known yeah no I'm saying you're super known I don't want to be known as Ed Shearing no I'm saying people know you

I'm saying people know you but I'm A lot of, I promise, bro, a lot of people, Gingling. I'm telling you. I think the right people know me. Right, but I'm saying, if you don't know me, it's like, you're not supposed to know. A lot of people don't know that you are white, bro. That shit.

That shit just happens. I'm not going to lie. It kind of happens sometimes. Yeah. Nah, you happen in my whole life. Nah, for sure, for sure, bro. How did you? I'll tell you guys a little story.

Okay. Yes, sir. When I first, like, started working with Amigos and shit, like, KucC and them, like, they couldn't even believe, like, this white kid from Canada was, like, making the beats and shit. they like they like flew me to Atlanta and they were like all right so like make some beats and I was like what they like they literally didn't believe I was making the beats up

yeah so I had to like make them on the spot like look it like I was like I was like 17 years old like look it like look at that shit they're like oh yeah it's fine how did you get into it though shout to coach guys you get into music yeah shout out coach and P and shit I got into music through my pops and shit like he played guitar you know like there was always like music in my in my household and stuff and like I started playing drums I'm left-handed so I couldn't play play guitar, like his guitar and shit.

So I started playing drums and stuff. And then growing up, getting into rap and stuff, like in the beats and then just like getting into like making beats on FL studio and shit. Okay. Did you ever use fruity loops? Yeah. Hell yeah. Still do.

My guy. FL gang for life. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Now, the funny part about this, that you talk about drumming and stuff like that. That's my guy. Yeah, I'm a drummer. I'm really, I'm really tapped in who you are. I'm really excited to have you.

You're a drummer? Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah, for sure. He's not good, but he was drummer. He disresaged. I'm okay too, but that's what made me kind of like want to get into like making beats because I plateaued as a drummer.

I was like, I don't know if I'm going to get better. Yeah. And then when I started like, my boy introduced me to FL studio in high school and I was like, man, like this is like the shit because like I love, I love trap music. I want to make trap beats. I know how to drum so I know how to sequence and shit. Right. And that's kind of like how I started.

So, yeah. Okay. Like I want to, did you know like, yo, my shit? Like I make good beats. Like, hey, they feel. fire? Or did you think like I didn't know by it's fucking with these ever, but Not at first. At first my beats were pretty

shit. I'm not gonna laugh. Can I swear? Yeah, just shut off. We cuss all day. But yeah, so like, I don't know. At first I was like, my beats weren't good, but I just knew it was what I want to do because I'm so passionate about music. It was just like I knew it was it. Like, I don't know. Like, I just knew it was it. Great. So I want to ask,

not to fast forward a little bit, what was that first moment where you feel like you got the recognition you deserve or somebody acknowledge your music that you really fuck with. It was just like, all right, I feel like I'm a ride, bro. Like, all right, I got something I can work with here. Man, there's so many times. Like, it's like when I was like 16, 17 when I started working with like Chief Keith and Lil Durk, that was like 20 fucking 11.

I feel like those times are good because like even those times like I was like fucking with them and like no one even knew who they were in Canada and shit. So I knew I was like on to something that was going to be big and like it ended up being big, you know? And it was the same thing when I found Amigo was like nobody was listening to these guys and shit. But like, even just them giving me the recognition, I just knew what they were going to be. So, like, that was all I needed, really.

Damn. What was your first big placement record? Piped up. 2015. I was, like, when I first, like, made, like, my first, like, 20K off music. I was like, holy shit. Like, before that, I was, like, it was like Western Union, PayPal. Like selling beasts.

They had me flagged that Western Union. That I was doing fraud. For so. So 2015 is when you played your business. finally like it's like it's like no it was always clean no I'm saying don't well you felt like you made it for real you're first of year yeah yeah

I thought you was being here and people your paper crazy Trave it yeah Traffin not the Western Union pay I don't know what's your pay Miss is crazy though bro I swear to God

Is that shit still open? No bro that's a scam bro No it's not bro no it's not a scam I did it in college bro they take a lot It takes a lot of money from you though

They hit you from about 10% They were hitting me For 10% You ain't know You didn't get on your brain I don't get their brain That's what you got

Shopping of time Let's fuck them Come on That's so funny You was green You was at the Walmart You thought you was getting Your money straight up

I hope so shit PayPal was giving me them for it No we're respect Shut up PayPal man Yeah That is hilarious So how did you link up with the Migos though?

Man, I had like a formula. I would just always hit people up on Twitter. Okay. So like I would find people like that was around them. That was their right hand man. I would hit them up like, yo, I'll give you beats if you can get my beats to Cuevo and take up at the time because offset was locked up. And they're like, man, I ain't even rapper right now.

I'm engineering. Skip of the flip. But he was like, I'm just engineering them. That's my guy. Yeah. So I ended up sending him the beats and then they got the beats. And then, yeah. Then, uh, rel,

Real money. Shout out, real. Shout to Ray. Real hit me up off the Migos page. He's like, is this the white boy? I'm like,

yeah. And he's like, I'm gonna call you and then he called me and then like, that's how everything just started right there. Yeah.

Because motorsport, motor sport is classic, bro. That's a hard ass beat. That should be smacking. In the car, that shit thumps for real. Like, who says your tagline? Like, oh, that was Baca.

Okay. Drake's boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that's hard. I was going to ask you got that too. We were literally like working on music and he ended up saying that shit

on one of the songs. And then I was with Sunny Digital in Toronto and I was like, yo, I was like, because like these guys all had tags. Like I had the my mama murder tag and shit. But I was like,

I wonder if I like use this as a tag and I played it for me. He's like, man, tried it might, you never know. It might work out. And then when I started sending Drake beats, I always put that on the thing.

And then like Drake was like, yo, like you should start. Every time you send me a beat, just put this tag on it. Kind of like how that started. Yeah, it's sustainable for sure.

No, for sure. And not to jump around, but boy, every time you turn that 2K, Malcolm, no. Yeah, you start that shit off, boy. With what? Come on, man. Butterfly effect, man. Oh, oh, yeah.

Fire is doing it on that. That was the 2K. Which one? Which one was it 20? Don't maybe, let me mess it around it. I'm sorry, but soon as you tap it to the low screen, it was a 20, 20, 2K, 23, 24. Let me not fuck it up.

It was one of those. I know I had a couple other songs in 2K, I think, too. But that was like the low. old screen game and then we went to the park that shit was playing Amelia and your tagged off immediately too man it's crazy um I think that's when I start playing 2K what was it 20

22 that's when I first started playing 2K man another story about fucking butterfly effect 2 Springer on the Blue Jays like that's his walkout song so every time he would walk walk out to the plate you hear that shit yeah so like every time you go to the game you hear the shit like seven times six times it's crazy what was that process like making that

That's a crazy-ass beat crazy. I made that beat with my boy Felix from Sony Creek in Canada, too. Okay. And I made that shit in my mom's basement. I remember I sent Travis the beat. And then I remember FaceTime on him when he was like recording the beat and shit, like writing it, right into it and shit. That was crazy times. That's one of them ones for sure.

A huge record, bro. No, I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Every time I hear that song, I only say, murder on the beat. It's one of those. And I feel like that's a special record for Trave too because like if you go to his show like that's the one record he's going to perform the whole thing.

There's no, there's no feature on that shit. No. Like that's the record that gets the, gets the show to the next level. I went to Astro World and that's what Demner calls the chaos. No, I don't do that. We're not doing all that.

No, not that one. Oh. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm sorry. Oh, you're, I'm saying when the people get hype, bro. That's what I'm saying.

You also, by the way. I ain't talking about it. No, you have a fact. He didn't start chaos. It's not funny. It's not funny. It's not funny.

It's not funny. It's not funny. They came to our house, bro. That came to Indianapolis, bro. No, yeah. No, I see because we went to Vegas. He plays that shit. He plays this.

Oh, and what happened? Oh, let's talk about it. Oh, that didn't happen. That didn't happen. That was just one time. That was one of the most randomest club experiences we ever had our life. Shout Toledo.

We pulled up off the humbug just off the strip. It was like, damn, murder DJ? It was going crazy. And it was going to be crazy. And they did not disappoint. Yeah. It was fighting. It was fight weekend.

Everyone was pissed off and shit. Yeah, they said, somebody going to win this fight. That was somebody on your team who was ever on the stage with you was like, they want to start the fight now. I was like, I was like, yeah, I like them. I like James. How often you DJ out there in Vegas? A lot, man.

I did probably like over 20 shows this year. That's hard. It's cool, man. It's fun, you know? That's a, we always, every time we out there, we always try to find like, where to go to hear the hip-hop music.

So they randomly went up there that night. That should just be fun and a good time. Every time it's always good vibes, except that little altercation. Yeah, y'all came. You may be, y'all brought the energy right now. It might have been us, bro. For sure.

I want to ask you this question. Obviously, you make your own music and you DJ. Is there like a balance you have to keep in that? Because obviously when you play in sets, you got to be tapping in with everything that's going on. So that means you pretty much, excuse me, pretty much keeping the ear to everything that's going on as well.

Yeah, like it's like, man, I'm not going over there. Like, it's not an ego competition with me. I'm not going to play fucking two hours of my own music. I'm trying to make everyone have a good time and, like, cater to everyone in the crowd, especially Vegas because like it's people from everywhere. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you got to kind of play a little bit, you know?

I know sometimes I go over here and I'll play a couple of rock songs. I see people over here like, Oh, fuck. But it's like, it's all good. I got you. Like, it's like, they're like, oh, fuck. Like, it's like, you got to just play for everyone and make sure everyone just has a good time, you know? You better to me.

I'll be playing all my shit. People hear my fucking tagline every song. That's what you can control the crowd and keep everybody happy. That's the best part of it. And you got to be able to stop and talk to people and like, you know what I'm saying? Make sure everyone's good. What type of music did you start DJing at first, though? Man, I started DJing, like, after I started to get a little, like, my name out there.

people wanted to start booking me because I had a brand and people wanted to see me. So that's how all this shit started. I started DJing around like motorsport and butterfly effect. Oh, so you ain't even have, you wasn't even like a DJ.

You just figured it out. This is DJ. That's all. I like the party. I'm here for Art Basel. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, shout to see, but that play is going to be 2010 and below.

I have house parties. Our podcast started because of my house parties. That's fucking lit. That's a good story. For sure. That's true. Damn, you guys got to do like a podcast anniversary.

Do like a house party, do a podcast and the house party. Well, we can't go back to that house. We can't go to another house. Actually, I got a new house. T, y'all at me. Yeah, there you got. You matter of fact, yeah. Shout out to the person in both the house.

Yeah, we want to have a reunion tour. Respect. Shout out to Pops 20. That's fine. But if we do, we got to book you. What's up? Come on. Let's do it.

Oh, no. We call it. Hey, girl. No, we can afford you. Man, what was the first place you DJ. that. What you like when you got it? Man, the first place I DJed I was in Hawaii. Wow. That's hard. That's fine.

That was the only reason I started DJing. Because they were like, yo, look, you can go get a vacation and go DJ at the end. I'm like, all right. I'm like, I'm not. I never wanted to DJ. I didn't want to be a DJ. I never like, I don't know. Now I appreciate it. I appreciate the art of DJing. I appreciate the art of producing. I appreciate all this shit.

What's harder though? Is it like producing a track or making the beat? or DJ. They're both difficult in their own ways, you know? Yeah. I don't know. They both come with their own things. Like, I know a lot of producers

that probably can't DJ. I know a lot of DJs that can't produce. Yeah, that's true. That's true. For you to pick it up and then be getting books so crazy, you're natural, bro. Yeah, it's fun. I'm still like, man, I'm from a small town in Canada,

bro, like 40 or 30,000 people. Like, I'm still just like that kid at heart. So it's like, it takes, like, I got to get into the mode to be, able to do that shit. Sometimes, like, go to do a show and I'm, like, still kind of shy at the beginning. I got to, like, warm up a little bit, you know, but that's just what comes with it. But speaking to the career, I know you tapped into the hoop situation, I'm saying, you're an ambassador out there for basketball. What's that like, man? That's what, like, when you guys

shout out to Adidas, you know what I'm saying? Because, um, so, yeah, so, like, my hometown in Canada, Fort Erie, um, a few years ago, I found out that, like, they're developing. They got, like, the best, like, development program in Canada, number one basketball team, Number one and two men's team in Canada. Number one women's team in Canada, like top 10 team in America for prep schools. So I got involved with the school, got them partnered up with Adidas this year, like literally like a month ago. And just like, you know, just like bringing awareness to the school and to the kids, you know, giving them the right education, helping with the curriculum. And just like, man, they're going crazy, man.

So I'm glad I can help them. And, you know, they're taking kids to college and universities and stuff. A couple kids went to the league. So, man. Yeah, it's fine. So all they warmed up to your music. You know what I'm saying? Look, he's a high school coach.

I'm a monitor. I know what I'm saying? I know the pregame mix. I know they should gotta be fired. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. I'm going crazy, man.

Shout out the 4-3. Did you hoop yourself? I was okay. Okay. What was it? I had a little corner three. Oh, that's your best. They used to call me Kyle Corcorner.

Oh. That's my guy. That's my guy. Kyle, it's my God. Okay. I got to tell him that. Yeah, that's my good of it. A little bit.

He said, corners were like, Bruce Boy. Like, I played like a little bit of ball and shit. Not much in high school. I was playing like travel baseball. Oh, okay. Turn me on. Yeah, I was like decent because I'm left handed.

So I was like, that was my first thing. I was like, man, I'm going to go to the MLB. Then I was like, this ain't for me. And then I was like, I'm going to be like a professional gamer. And then I was like, honestly, that's still kind of like I'm still, like amazing at video games. I could have did that. What game is right?

Right now I'm playing Arc Raiders. You tell you a real gamer. Insane. My nephew, a gamer. Yeah. That game is like, this is the only classic game that's came on probably the last couple of years. That game's amazing 10 out of 10. I advise everyone, anybody watches, go get that game.

I play FIFA. Okay. I play PGA. I'm really good at PGA. Oh, that's my again. But I'm going to have to see you in FIFA. I'm going to have seen you in FIFA. Man, you should have brought it.

Could have play right now. You play 2K? I'm okay at 2K. I used to play the game. I feel like it's like robotic basketball. It's like I don't want to play that shit. Shout to Ronnie. Fight night.

You go with me. It don't feel robots. I feel like I'm right too. I feel like I'm still there. I feel like I'm back in the league. I know a lot of people be hooping, though, online and shit. Yeah. Yeah.

I know Ronnie got my guy like all maxed out and shit. I just don't be going on there. Oh, man, you got to try. Man, we got to get you on a strike. We can do that. I'm down. The park, for sure. Then we can do FIFA or whatever.

Yeah. I play like, man, I play like NHI. I play everything, bro. Warzone, PubG, Battlefield, like, Gears of War. I play everything. Hey, NHL is a real gamer. I'm a real gamer, though. NHL.

The, it's. The old NHL games are like Sega and the old Genesis and something. The old ones are crazy. They let your bump on there? Dangles so fast. They let y'all fight on there? Like, square up? Yeah, of course.

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You know what I'm saying? In fact. Gets the teams all pumped up, you know? Was music always in your household? Like, how did you catch a hitch for? Always. Always. Like, my parents were always playing the radio.

Always playing. CDs and stuff. My dad was always watching like live bands, like DVDs. They had all the collection and stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like everything. How do they feel about your music? Because obviously it may be a little bit different

to what they was playing in the household, but how's now? At first, my mom was always like, she's still like, whenever like a song's very vulgar, she's like, why do they got to do that? Or like, but like my mom's like a real like, she's like a student of the game. Like she knows like a lot of shit. And like, if I like drop a song with a rapper and like they didn't do justice to the beach, should be like, why did they do that? Why didn't they do that good job?

Because sometimes the beats hard, but the artist don't do it. Like, justice, you know what I'm saying? So, but, yeah. So you have felt that way before. Like, damn, you could have came a little harder than that. Have you ever told anybody? 100%. Oh, damn.

A lot of times I've told people to redo verses and sometimes are like, nah, that's it. I'm like, all right, cool. What's that kind of like? Are you like, are you like, are you like, are you like? Hey, don't be fucking my shit up now. Hey, that ain't it. You ever. You ever.

That's your. I was actually. I was an action. Have you ever seen Safari on the breakfast club? What he said? Top off freestyle all time. Plug that in right here. He was rapping.

He was saying a freestyle and Charlie May was like, that ain't. Yeah, I think I see that. That's fucked up. Have you ever did that? Have you ever did that? Not like that. I'm not going to disrespect somebody.

It's still like they're trying their hardest, hopefully. But is it like you in a student? Is it like you in a studio session with them or they just send it to you and they'd be like, hey, man, answer this FaceTime real quick. It would be both. Like, it would be both. Honestly, I've had both situations.

Okay. I can just like mad at a studio session. You know, everybody got their crew with them. Everybody bobbed in the head. He just like, nah. There's a lot of yes men in music. I can only matter. Probably.

Probably like basketball two and shit. I don't know. Oh, yeah. People always tell me, man, you play good tonight. I might have four points. Whatever. You was in your bag, though. No, I was.

But man, they're just like, they're just like a fan of you. They really play well. Yeah. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Then you got people like them

and they tell you the truth. Like, yeah, for sure. Because in the music, they probably, they probably like, man,

I'm just trying to stay around, man. Boy, you killed it. Boy, you killed it. That hook crazy. And then you got him in the backline. Shit. I ain't it.

Have you ever took a beat from somebody and gave it to somebody else? Oh, yeah. That's hard. Rep on the beat That's funny That's kind of fucked up He's like nah

He went on there and start doing Whatever he was doing You know, we're gonna take that one back I don't do it a lot I don't do it a lot Now I do see this Commonwood music producers I'm going to ask Has you having a situation

Where you gave in multiple artists The same beat And you had to have a conversation about it Or somebody took it That was a butterfly effect Was one of the beats Oh shit I had Nikki Minow

on the beat first. Wow. And then I got Cuevo on it. And then I got Travis on it. So that was like a whole like, you know, there was like three songs. So what did you do?

Yeah, like how does it? Travis dropped the song. Oh, that's how that played out. Yeah. Oh, okay. Once Travis drop it,

is it like, yeah, I ended up with the Cuevo joint, I ended up remaking a beat with the, with the Acapella. And we made a bigger than you with Drake and Two Chains. Oh, yeah.

me and Drake like we restructured that whole Acapella and remade a whole song for that So that was dope Man Yeah, he got hits on hits on hit on hit I'll shit Oh he got hits Yeah that's crazy

It's green Who's somebody that you would want to work it Work with in the future That you ain't even You know what I mean got in the lab with Who's someone I'd want to work with now Yeah I think me and Playboy Cardi got to get back in

We did some shit way back Yeah I'd be back in with him Um Who was like Definitely like Justin Bieber Yee, yeah Shout out to Yee

He's going crazy Yeah, that's one of his favorite artist Yeah, he's definitely one of them Malk tapped in Yeah He's a festival I'll ask you a question There may be a lot of pocket

But let's just see what happens What's the beat you heard You was just like Yeah, see what happens What's the beat you heard You was like damn I wish that was my beat Ooh

Or a song You was like damn I wish I had that song I made that song deep in thought it's a real good or has a song gave you influence to like all right I'm going to the lab tonight you just heard something and you just like damn

I'm going to go to the studio right now which beat I wish I made My Kitchen by Gucci Santa O'S Saturday of 60s you know somebody dog somebody No I was like one of my favorite artists

growing up I had the big classics I used to fucking I had the DVD so I put it in my little C-3-50. I always said to any guys to play that shit on the screen. You could only play it when you were part. You know all about the movie, all that actually. No, that's true.

Yeah. No, Gucci's a fucking legend, man. Like, it was- Yeah, hell yeah. So the first time I ended up working with him, I gave Drake this beat. And then one day he told me to pull up to his crib and he played me back on road right before Gucci got out.

He's like, yo, this is going to, or no, he played it for him. He's like, yo, this is going to be Gucci single when he comes. out so I was like, damn, this is crazy. Like, then I got to meet him. We worked on a bunch of other records together as well. But, man, Gucci's a legend.

You know what I'm saying? Facts. He pulled away for everybody. Everybody. Shit, he found them and they found Amigos. He found a lot. He was a part of a lot of shit. Yeah.

Yeah. Shut up to walk. Early on, you think a flaco. You look at Nikki Minaz. Like, she was on them early types. French Montana. Yeah. Man.

Damn, that is crazy. I was going to say thug too. Gucci found thug. Part of, my bad. I'm a lot of shit, you know. My bad. Man, that's crazy. Shut up.

Yeah, Scooter. Oh, for sure. Be scooter. That's my hell of my dog. Man, that's crazy. Go ahead, be here? You still stay in Canada now? Or you just move around?

I live in L.A. I move around. You know what I'm saying? I'm like in Miami, man. Me too. Yeah. As soon as he got off the money today. It's 15 degrees when we're from today.

Wait, see, you guys still live in Indiana? Yeah. Why are you saying like that? What I'm just that. What is that? Like, what the fuck? We left the snow this morning. It came to sunshine.

Damn. Indiana's cool. Shout to that. They got that casino when you go through the south side of Chicago and you get to the Indiana. What is it called? Oh, yeah. That's a little more. Shout to the region, but that's a little bit different.

I've been there a couple times. You was way, way far from our rock casino in it. Shout to the game. It is. It is. It is one having her dinner there. So I'm like, well, yeah. Yeah, it is a lot of casino.

Shout to each one. That's up. That's up more freezing. No, shout to it. We're from the capital, the actual city. Indianapolis. Oh, Indian, I've been there too. Yeah.

Yeah. You probably did. I did tour there with a G.Easy. I brought out a Jeremiah in Indianapolis. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I did a show in Indianapolis in January. Did I?

At a club downtown. Okay. They booked you a nap. Didn't we do Indianapolis in January? You probably did Rebel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He probably did a little club down there. It was cool. It was like right downtown. There was a lot of like, you did rebel. It's a nice club, real nice club. It was a pretty nice club. Yeah, it was cool. It was good vibes in there and shit.

It was when Trump coin was going crazy. So I like, I bought Trump coin at the time and I was like watching the shit when I was DJ and it kept going up. I was like, holy shit. I kept saying like, what? You would have bought it? He said, I was going to say. It was crazy.

I got off stage. I got off stage and I sold the shit at the top and then it just dumped. It was crazy. Damn. I had just found, you remember I just found? The shit was crazy. It was crazy.

He made a white, boy. I had a hundred thousand. What's it called? Bitcoin. And I didn't know. Oh, yeah. Just keep that shit. Don't sell it.

I don't know the past code. He can't sell it if he wanted to. Yeah. He can't retrieve those funds. Like 2017? And I'm locked out. I got an email the other day. I was looking at it.

I knew you all in here like, where you got it? Do you got that coin base or something? Yeah. We can help you find it. Oh, for real? Tap in. Oh, okay.

Lord, I'm back. No, we're talking about that off camera. Okay, we're back. The good thing you brought that up, though. Yeah, we're back. That's like Homer who had the hard drop of the Bitcoin and had on that bread on there. He only had three attempts of the password. Yeah.

I don't know what I do. That's crazy. Now, he was really at the studio, I'm really trying to think how to retrieve this money. A little bit of it at least I was trying to see how cash it out That's crazy, man You big in a crypto world though Yeah, I like to invest in like modern shit

You know? Yeah, anything modern really like You know, crypto's cool Obviously like real estate I've been a bunch of startups and shit I'm in this disposable wipe company Good wipes, that shit's fucking killing it Number one white company in America

Watch stuff Tap in, good wife You heard the first Good wipes man Let's get it So this is like wipes for like like to wipe your eyes. Oh.

I'm afraid. We got some shitty booty. Listen. Whoa. No, no, no. Listen. No, Mike, you can wipe whatever you want to. Be here.

Don't act like that on. You can wipe your TV. I thought he said it was for you used to Russia. Because the way you got him to the studio is crazy. You gave me an Lally-Hood. I'm just saying, the way they did be doing it in second floor. The second floor is crazy. You know what they got like the dude wipes and shit?

But good wipes is for everybody. So, like, one day I posted them and, like, all these girls that are they, like, hitting me up, like, oh, wow, my mom loves those. Wow. Hey, man. They need a multi-purpose. Shut out to moms. The way the studio is being treated is out of the park. We got you.

We'll send y'all some. Yeah. A paler. We need a whole palette. We need a whole palette. Because the way Mike can maltreat that, we call them M&L. They go crazy. Our production is saying M&L.

That's wild. What is for it. Shout a good wife. You guys are crazy. Lob, average. Shout out to Ed Shearin, man. Look, he know. That's why when he said that, he knew, like, bro,

it's not the first time to happen. I told him I had a whole argument, arguing about him. People was like, bro, you know how Google just be posting people. I'm like, no, this is a legit, real person. That's why I wanted to ask you really. I'm AI. I really wanted to ask you about your musical,

like, your background, for real, for real. That's crazy. Wait, what? No, so that's why I wanted to ask about your musical background Because people really just, you know, like how you said to do What's the name of them treated you at QC? Like, bro, make the beats like they didn't believe who you was. Yeah, because I'm sad thing because it's like him and Harry Frye people were surprised

What they look like? I'm like, no matter, it makes fire. Yeah, you can't put, you can't put like how someone looks or where they're from, you know what I'm saying? That's one thing like it's like bro I'm from a small-eyst town like I usually think that's like when I started making a piece it's like you had to be from like a bigger city to like make it in you know what I'm saying no one was like making it for like small towns and shit so yeah don't matter where you're from what you look like where you're at what language you speak man make whatever you want to make that's 500% I want to ask you this question

that's a party who loves music um sampling process how does that work um is it like you go hear some stuff you like added did you got to reach out to the people or is it like yeah it's like a whole clearance shit the label I just let the label managers people deal with that shit It's very complicated. Is it very annoying, I can imagine? Yeah. Yeah. How are you to imagine?

Okay. I'm sure there'll be people who don't even, I'm like, man, you're not even fucking doing nothing with this shit. I hate that I haven't had to fucking ask you. You made this song 50 real. Let it fucking fly. Nobody's replay. It's like a state for the most part.

The other time the people have been dead and gone. It's like because it's driving. Boy, they on every fee you can find. Well, you play a note out of one. You are getting cooked. Yeah. That shit crazy. But they don't even let you sample their shit.

Like, Princeton people don't even want you to sample the shit. They don't go, fuck. Damn, that's good. You're like, away from that. But, like, hip hop, like, the art of hip hop is sampling. Like, they're, like, going to vinyl's chopping up drums and, and shit. Like, this has all been sampling. So it's like, I don't, like, you shouldn't shun it, you know?

Some people are like, why, everyone's sampling and flipping records. But it's like, bro, that's the whole art of the game. Real shit. I'll try to the high day. Cammin was gold for that. I would try to. back in the day. Kanye's beats.

I never thought Kanye had made no money. Yeah, all this beat. He made some money. No, I know what I'm saying, though. Like, back then when you started against him yourself

about that, he sampled everything. You see Shaka Khan came out? She was just like, if I know he was going to do this with my son, I wouldn't have cleared it. That shit crazy. It was fire, too. Yeah.

Come on, man. As I was talking about Big X the Club. I know my boy get his bread on tour for sure. Because, I said, oh. Yeah. That whole album, he ain't made.

Oh, that shit. That was a mixed. I wonder how does that work with Apple Music, though. Like, does an artist get paid from that? You know, like, belly gang just did his shit. Yeah, you're simple. Yeah, I wonder, like, how does that work so far as good paid? It goes to the world, too.

Yeah, it's like publishing royalties. Like, you'll get paid. Okay. Goes through. Who's the young artist that you, like, tapped in with and that you listen to that you like, man? If I gave him a beat, man, I know he'd go through the roof. Like, if I could work with him.

new young artist yeah um zucchini kid from Atlanta he's nasty okay um I actually did some stuff with him it's not out yeah it's gonna come out top of the year so shout out to zoo um amified super dope kid out of the UK nasty um this girl led by her she's super dope

from the UK um yeah how you get tapped in with these people like is it from labels or just somebody like you listen to that music like yo I like it man's recently just like random shit like like algorithmic shit like I'm just like playing Spotify and like you just keep like skipping shit and then you get into like the more random stuff that you don't know you just keep going through it and then you find shit you like honestly that's how I found some stuff like the last like few weeks I don't normally do that but yeah you know it's crazy

we just had a mori on a show shout out to oh and he said one thing he does in a chorus he just plays mixes my different DJs and stuff he's like that's how I discover different stuff like that is that the new way or not like a common way to find it that's definitely a cool way and like I feel like, yeah, you always are going to discover something from a DJ. Yeah. You know? Got to. That's the whole point of DJ.

You got cool people on, you know? Big responsibility as well. I want to ask you this. What's like nowadays, obviously, we should, you know, this odd success. How many people ask you for a beat on a daily basis? Probably a lot every day. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah.

How do you choose? How do you choose, though? If I fuck with someone, I'll send them a beat. You know what I'm like a fan of you Like I hear you I'm like you know it's gonna But what But damn what if I'm a up and come an artist

Murdering you ain't giving me a chance And I'm fired Bro I'm harder What I gotta do I gotta get you to y'all look What's your budget? Western Union Back to the Walmart baby

Western Union Because my man Paws But like Back to war He made a song Back in the day Yes

We can't put it out because... Sunny Digital. That's my guy. Sunny Digital. We're working on now. I did a remix to Rex on Rex and I smoked it. Yeah. You bobbing your head because it's a bob.

The beats of Bob. When used to rap? Yes. Arc and jerk freestyle. Are you in a rap group? No, definitely, though. I would never be in a group. It's a large.

I'm bigger than a pro group. And we're his co-workers His own was called Urkinjerk You ever heard of Urkin jerk? No Oh man E and J man How are you man

31 Oh yeah you just missed it I missed it Yeah you just missed it I'm happy You know what they had Going up there in Canada But the Urgen jerk

Yeah they probably don't I got Urkinjerk Y'alli Irish Rose in Canada I know jerk chicken I love Jamaican food Now listen I don't know the Urgen jerk How much brother have?

Drunk chickens. It's a $10. It's a, it's a $10. It's a $10. Really? Yeah, what's some cheap liquor y'all drinking in Canada, bro? Oh, yeah. Some, some, uh.

Crown Royal. Oh, wow. Canadian club. I don't drink that shit. Don't be doing that. I don't do that. Shout out to the good people are. Crown Royal is elite.

That's true. That's premium. That purple bag. Oh, y'all, if you said Crown War, you for damn short don't go on the wild-arish rolls. You get drunk off a fifth of a fifth of a fifth of a pump, and then you get a fifth of that for about five, and you're going to have a great night or bad night. Yeah. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. You don't have a night. Good or bad. In our high school, we used to get four locoes. There it is. There it is. So now you coming back down. Right.

Four locoes is really. The rest of four locos and they still had the ginseng in there? Yeah, that was a different time. That shit would fuck you up. Just one. All you needed was one. Two of them, you're gone. Oh, yeah, you're done.

Two? You couldn't even get them in Canada. Like, you would have to, like, people would have to go over the border in America to get them and bring them back. Dan's bootlegging up. Y'all was smuggling for your alcohol. Don't call me back then. Yo, Chuck. I wish you were to call me back then.

I would have got to each other. Bro. He's crazy. Bro. We used to. They didn't, yo, they didn't have Swiss or sweets in Canada for a long time. So we would drive, we would drive over the border and go to this native reserve. in Buffalo and like Cheek Tuaga

get the Swisher sweets and then bring them home and like grow blunts and shit. Ah, damn. I wish how we were. Damn, man. That was like before backwards. That was like before like, you know what I? I had a swisher in a long time.

Yeah, that was like back in the way. That was the first, but that was the first. Yeah. We did all together. He reminiscing. My boy back. Nistalgia. Yeah.

Man, listen, this is been fun, man. We got to do this again. We got to get a production, man. We got to get the erga jerk. Yeah. Can you think you can help, my man? What would a beat cost me? Oh, damn.

He tells somebody saying figure out it costs too much. No, for sure, for sure. No, for sure. Murder, we appreciate you to be, bro. For real? Yeah. We locked in.

Shake on it, bro. Yes, sir. You said, you're right. I wrapped him. You got to do justice, though. I don't want to call you back. You got to redo this. You know what you're going to do?

You're going to be like, you're going to be like, It's going out He's going to somebody else He's going to put him the beat I said the beat to someone up, I'm sorry Shout to stock is you can't No, real shit, man, that's crazy

Listen man, this has been too much We're going to do this again, murder, big dog We appreciate you sliding on this brother Thank you for having me, man, real shit For sure, man, one more time for the good people Over there at Boost Mobile man Shout to Stock X, keeping us fresh, keeping the studio clean as well

And last but certain at least, man, shout to to Harrod Beck, man, got us out here at All right, Basil, having a good time. We appreciate y'all. We'll catch y'all next time. Club 520. Yes, sir. The volume.

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