Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Nick Young on playing with Kobe Bryant, Arenas wearing his shoes, origin of 'Swaggy P'

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 97 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Nick Young AKA 'Swaggy P' in one of the more legendary episodes to date! Young talks about playing alongside Kobe Bryant in L.A. and how he was able to find his role with the Lakers. Plus, Swaggy P gets into how he "survived" playing with Gilbert Arenas and the Washington Wizards and why that experience challenged him. Also, Young shares the story behind his nickname Swaggy P and being a pioneer in the NBA fashion world. And don't miss more StoryTime with Teague, Young's Arenas story, Nick's stories of matching up against LeBron and D-Wade, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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guests in the building gonna introduce my man's last to my far left we got my dog bishop b here and out the pearlies how you would nasty cool and nasty another one another one another one now look nasty swaggy what's up, baby? How far I should want this person to introduce against? All right, we're going to go for it. These guys sound right, right? All right, look, so I know you wanted to, you know what I'm saying, wanted to call this with the fashion game.

Now, his signature, he got a uniform. We're going to find him, too. He normally shows up to work with the black forces with the white laces. Have you ever seen that before? Black force, all black? With the white laces. Let's say they're all white, so I can't do the all black. Just all black. All black?

I actually got a collab with Off-White, but yeah. Swag? That's a little bar. You got my

shoestrings. They did. Off-White shoestrings? I swear to God, they made my shoestrings. That's all.

That's your story. Tell them to call me. You mean they made your shoe strings? Nah, Off-White made my own shoe strings. I'll show you a picture after we done. Nah, but all bless the Foot Locker, though. Yeah, the OG, the Walmart laces in the white.

Hell nah. It was demon time. Yeah, bro. Hanging wood. Yeah. That's crazy. But to my right right we got my dog hanging wood

yeah we didn't need that yeah in the all black forces it's gonna be a goodie you know he didn't take care of that baby he got all black forces

it's gonna be a goodie it's a motherfucker Miami baby little Earl probably 15 days. You know where else who, King? All the best athletes

listen. All the best athletes don't have no daddy. I think I'm gonna be a goat, boy. Especially if you had a list of all great forces.

You're gonna be Brian too. He play football though. Probably. Nose tackle. Man, that's fine Stop fucking with your To my right My dog

Young Nacho Young T What up man I'm good Hey man This is gonna be a classic man Yes sir Hey y'all

With the energy like this I love it bro So I'm hyped I think we're gonna Crack in the intros man One of my favorite players man You know who this is That's a fact That's One of my favorite players, man. You know who this is. That's a fact.

That's one of my favorite players. No bullshit. Straight up. My dog. I told Giddens, I want a lot of money playing with y'all on 2K Live.

And we locked it every since, man. On 2K, I was cold. My ratings was low, but my... The match would be so. We already know. Game plot was already up.

Man. Tell me about it. Man, look. One of the coaches To do it on and off the court Man Coach you know what I'm saying Holding it down right now

Oh yeah man I can't even call you coach I can't call you Swag It's Coach Swaggy right now man Appreciate you 25-20 brother Always man I've been seeing y'all

Doing y'all thing man Appreciate you bro Appreciate you bro We're gonna start back At the beginning though man At Grover At Grover Yeah I caught one of your Your old high school clips Man you had like We're going to start back at the beginning though, man. At Grover. At Grover.

Yeah. I caught one of your old high school clips, man. You had like 50 and 23 in the game before, man. Yeah, dude. You was really one of them ones, man. It slept on. Yeah. I remember you back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When did that start though? When the nigga said, fuck my teammates, pass me the ball. When did that start? Because you ain't never been no assistant nah nah

I'm not the one for passing I never wanted to be a PG you know for sure yeah it came from

birth you know I told you God made me that way respect respect hey I'll never

forget bro before you going crazy with Tess you was just like nah no sass on this arm Just for buckets

Strictly for buckets Boy Strictly for buckets Boy the hardest Course of all time Man I was in a tattoo shop Too I was just

You know When you get in a tat You gotta get Prepared for it For sure That was one of them days That just came to my mind Off the

Off the hand I was like yeah shout out to team hennessy y'all know what it is when did you realize you was called to hoop though when did it click like you can really do something with it for real man um shit well i used to be the guy i was at the park i would have been a park legend to tell you the truth i didn't start playing until like high school going to my junior year year. I just ditched school and go to the park and just hooped. Damn. Then somebody rode by, seen us playing,

and said, y'all want to play on my AAU team? That's how I got cracking. That's hard, bro. Damn, that's different. No, that's smart. No, I ain't going to lie. Then my first year, I got invited to lie. Then I got like, my first year I got invited to like the ABCD and all that, but I didn't end up

going because I didn't really know too much about it. I wanted to stay home and chill. Different story, bro, because he grew up like Michael Jackson. What you mean I grew up like Michael Jackson? Yeah, I'm clear about that shit. Oh, Jackson Lane. My dad...

He was a workout My dad Yeah my dad Had me doing Workouts and shit When I was like Five six But he was cool He was cool But see

The contest Coach T played In college And you know All my brothers Played like I used to have to Go to their games

Into the park They had to like Drag me along with them So that's how I got good He moved That's right Yeah he moved

That's how My little brother was we had to drag him along he ain't really going to hoop he was like doing everything else skateboard and all type of what was you in the streets or was it another sport that you was fucking with you just i was just living living i was in the streets was living yeah thinking i was cool not getting good grades you know when you was back, you just wanted to dress and shit. Yeah. Okay. So fashion always been a part of you though. Yeah. 100%.

I always been like a Michael Jackson type man. Like, you know, I've been the goat in this. This is my field. Like, this is my real field. Do you think you the first?

And basketball just came like, nah, I was like, oh, I could do this too? Because y'all niggas used to wear some weak ass outfits back in the day. Hold on. Nah, I'm not saying you. I'm saying, do, I can do this too? Because y'all niggas used to wear some weak-ass outfits back in the day. Hold on.

No, I'm not saying you. I'm saying do you feel like you, because David Stern used to make y'all niggas dress like Steve Harvey. So I'm saying do you feel like you're the first swaggiest NBA player when they kick back off to wearing regular clothes again? Yeah, man. I feel like I set the tone for that. I get you there.

I was through with the Versace and the playoffs. Yeah. And, you know, that was like the start of Swaggy, you know. Okay. Check this out. Where did Swaggy P come from? His name is Nick. Where did P come from?

Where did P come from? I don't know. That shit just came to my head one day. Oh, you named yourself? Oh, yeah. Oh, motherfucker. Yes. That shit just came to my head one day. Oh, you named yourself? Yeah. Oh, motherfucker. Yes. But I fuck with that, though.

I fuck with that. You named yourself? Why you pick Peter? I can't give you all the answers. Oh, okay. Respect. I got a book coming out. Oh, respect.

The mystery of the people. That's the name of it? That's crazy. That's not like there, man. That's not like one of Mike's movies. One of my cat movies. That's not like Mike's movies. What if I come out the room blindfolded?

That's a soldier book. Man. How'd your ass land up at USC, bro? How'd you land there? Let's start there. Shit, well, it took me a while. I had to pass some SATs, man. I'm just kidding.

It's no joke, bro. Me and him both. I was stuck, bro. I was stuck bro I was stuck on the one I started looking at Juco and that C shit

might not work out but like so you finally passed I finally passed man I was on the third the third try

it took me like yeah it took me three tries that was your top offer or did you have somebody else that you was

looking at nah I had like UCLA had some East Coast schools but I didn't want to go I wasn't gonna leave LA at all so or did you have somebody else that you was looking at? No, I had UCLA. I had some East Coast schools, but I didn't want to go. I wasn't going to leave LA at all. I had UConn. I didn't have Kentucky.

I had none of them. You know what's crazy? He almost went to USC. For real? Yeah, I almost went to FC, but my visit, OJ Mayo was there, and they forgot I was there. You was on the same visit? I don't know why they sent me out there with that man, there. You was on the same visit? I don't know why they sent me out there

with that man, bro. You was on that same visit? I just happened to be there, bro. Then we just still there. I was there. Yeah, I was there. I was at the game. Yeah, I just happened to come.

That's crazy. I had breaks. I was just there. Because you left in 07, right? Yeah. I was there. OJ coming to the game. Yeah, I thought. They laid the red carpet out for him. Yeah. They didn't have that motherfucker for me. It was just there Cause you left in 07 right Yeah OJ coming to the game Yeah I thought

They like They didn't lay the red carpet out for him Yeah They didn't have that motherfucker for me It was just for him They legit Thought I was like One of his homeboys

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I thought I was Romeo. I was like, DeVon. Man, he fucked up. Tim Floyd was like, yeah, we love you. We're going to do whatever you're going to start. I get to the visit. Shit, they forgot I was there. Damn, bro.

You was in L.A.? Why L.A., though? Like, what made you? Because of Tim Floyd gassed me. Yeah, Tim Floyd good at that. Yeah, he gassed me, bro. Yeah, man. Thinking I was about to go to the NBA after one year, bro.

I thought he probably gave you an envelope, too, man. Didn't he? He had me feeling good, man. I'm like, they want me. I got to that visit. They forgot I was there. Tim Floyd good at that, man. Shout out to Tim.

The real NIL. Yeah, the real. So, the NIL. So, clearly, you got the envelope. All right. You been told on the set? Shit, nigga. Kim and Taz, all of them had nice cars, bro.

Y'all heard about Expedition? Nah, they don't have nice cars. Bro, I seen them. They all had nice cars, bro. All the time. All the time. What you have, Swag? He had a Mohawk.

He had a Mohawk. He had a Mohawk. I remember of the mohawks. Yeah, oh, God. I remember, bro. For sure, for sure. I remember that day. Y'all was at the game. You probably don't remember me. I remember you.

I thought you was like his homie. I thought you was like, this cunt. That nigga ain't shake my head. That nigga ain't shake my head. I was kidding. Fuck them. He said, what up, cunts?

The whole thing was like A big big deal Rockstar bro Rockstar Employee gas And shit out Me out there Looking crazy That team would've been

Kind of lit though Yeah I ain't been cracking Man He gas me I wasn't going there How many years You played with Taj

Two or three Two Two What kind of teammate Was Taj years you play with Taj? Two or three? Two. What kind of teammate was Taj, man? We fucking Taj. Five, twenty-one. Nah, Taj Cooley's still my dog to this day. He was quiet at first, but

I was shocked when he came in. He was a freshman. He was 21 years old. Damn, he was the same age. The first reclass. The first double reclass Damn Damn Tell me he could drink

He was like Yo it's fun out here Yeah tell me he could take me out We could have got a beer Right Same boy Oh god Shout out to TG

For real Nah y'all was lit though Obviously you did your thing Went to the league And then man It's crazy Went to Washington man You went to Washington?

Nah I'm sorry You I didn't go The Wizards Fuck the Wizards I'm telling you You went to washington man man change your life surviving the wizards like surviving diddy and surviving oh we need a tubi classic for the wizards you know what's crazy you said surviving diddy one of our

freaky mike behind the camera Told me he wanted to be Diddy growing up He randomly told me this Like 30 minutes ago I swear to God Before we came Excuse me Before we potty

He told me Man I grew up And I wanted to be Diddy I swear to God My right hand a guy bro He said I wanted to be Diddy Growing up

Before he knew Before he knew Yeah before the allegations So you wanted to be Making the band Diddy Yeah He said I I wanted to be Diddy growing up. Before he knew. Before he knew. Yeah, before the allegations. So you wanted to be making the band Diddy. Yeah. He said, I thought that was tight. Send niggas for cheesecake.

All right, Micah. That's crazy. See what you want. But nah, what was that like getting drafted by the Wizards? And I got a crazy story about y'all, man. You and Randy Ford. The Wizards? Man, it was tough, man. Like, my first really official there, like, training camp, man, you come outside, the parking lot is filled with the fire extinguisher.

It's all over everybody's cars. Like, Gil just flooded everybody's cars with the fire extinguisher. My first day there, I'm like, dog, what is this? Took my wheels off and rode them into the film room first day as a rook. Damn. Man,

this is not what, fuck, you know, this ain't what the NBA is about. I'm thinking, yeah, this is not the NBA.

But it was cool though because he like, he'd do that type of stuff and then throw me like 10 bands after like, it was sick. It was sick,'re sick yeah that was

really the wizards and gil there was both of them together was kind of tough you had the owner on this side though he was the owner yeah yeah man it's crazy look back you got you a young you young javel mcgill and Like, y'all was, and we had Bibb on the show, man. Bibb said, when he got traded to Washington, he was like, man, it was just different going from the Hawks to the basketball hill.

This is real, bro. JaVale, young JaVale was playing in the NHL. Yo, JaVale. From free throw. And just threw the ball at the backboard like he couldn't make it.

He just said, fuck it. On a fast break, bro. I've never seen nothing in my life. But a big man got in on a fast break. I'm thinking he about to do something cool. He's trying to jump from the free throw line. Couldn't make it. Look at that bitch.

She's like, fuck. I said, we coming out this game. Backboard dodgeball. I said, we coming out this game right now. He took all of us out the game. I said, yeah, he about to get us all subbed you know you sub in like everybody's get this going and took off he couldn't make it just said you boo he took everybody out oh my god he's all together i remember playing y'all at this time and randy

foyd was on your team okay okay okay so i'm like i still been they like yo they could score and these both i had to go on nick i had to go on randy foyd they gave me buckets bro off of screens nigga i'm like y'all said they were sad this whole before the game everybody like yeah these suck man they sad as hell these got some bit these coming off screens killing i'm like y'all said these was sad they like well they ain't that sad because these was killing me that was my welcome to the NBA moment, bro. Those two niggas coming off screens, bro. We were saying, but because we was losing so I get the chance

to go off. Yeah. Him and Randy Ford gave me the blues, bro. I was like, what the fuck? I said they suck. We won, but

they killed me, bro. I was like, yeah. Randy Ford slept on him for sure. For sure. For sure, but it was my welcome to the NBA moment, for sure.

For sure. Before he came to the Wizards, I think after the Wizards, everybody pretty much mind getting fucked up. Let's think about it. Everybody that came after the Wizards is there. Especially Andre Blatch. Blatch ain't been the same. You don't see Blatch no more.

Shout out to my nigga, A.B., the real A.B. I'm about to build a case man I'm about to build a case I'm about to build a case Against the website It's meant to abuse man Y'all got lost too For sure I'm about to see

Blash's disappear Yes Don't want to be seen Or nothing You never seen somebody That don't want to be seen Yes bro Don't want to be seen

Blash was supposed to be One of the ones bro And what's so crazy Like you said Now I think about it, all y'all left and won championships on the place. You went to both of your teams for successful. Yeah. To be able to win the ring somewhere else.

Oh, yeah. That's crazy. So how was it finally leaving Washington and getting a more stable situation and playing with your franchise? Oh, yeah, it was good. It was good. It was good. It was refreshing because you, like, see what, like, a real franchise is about.

Like, from, like, the way they do breakfast, practice, the owners talk to you different. It's different. Like, I guess because we were losing, Gil was hurt. He wasn't practicing. Like, he wasn't Gil Gil. Like, turn was hurt. He wasn't practicing. Like, he wasn't Gil Gil. Yeah. Turn around Gil.

So he was rehabbing every day trying to find stuff to do. So, yeah, man, it was tough. So when I got to L.A., playing with, like, Kobe, Kobe was different. Kobe was, like, the first person there always on the training table getting treatment or something. He was just always in the gym, first person there. That's crazy.

And speaking of Kobe, man, one of my favorite moments of y'all going back and practice, man. That's one of my favorite clips, man. How was that, the battle with somebody of that legend?

And you from LA too, so the legend was already there and you get to really go at him at a time where y'all wasn't the best, so y'all really got to get y'all shit off. Man, that was fun

because in practice, like, he wouldn't practice. He would just tell us about it. Tell us about us. Like, man, if I plan on seeing you left, you can't go that way. So when he finally got out there, I was like, yeah, this is our time because we all were just talking trash. How am I going to get better practicing with y'all?

I said, damn, that's a cold line. You said that to me? You said that to me that's a cold line. You said that to me? You said that to me? Hold on. This is disrespectful. So when he got out there finally, oh, yeah. It was fun, though. But I think Jeremy Lane got like the worst of that.

Oh, God. Jeremy Lane got like the worst. He was getting, yeah. And it's funny because that could have been your teammate in L.A. Nah, he told me that. He said, in the middle he told me that He said In the middle of the game He said

Why you got me out here With this shit And I said What He said That's cold right Yeah he said You left me out here

With this shit And he pointed at Jeremy Lin And I'll never forget that I said damn Oh so that was supposed To be you instead of Jeremy Lin Nah It was supposed to be me

It was I told him nah I was like Yeah he declined I remember he said He was like Please don't trade me He said He was like I can go to the Lakers I said go now

That would have been cold Leave me I said nah I'm cool I told him please It was new I was like I had the Knicks I had Lake

All the big cities I didn't want to go I wanted to go to Indiana Like every time I wanted to get treated I wanted to go back home But at that time They was like

We're going to trade you To the Lakers It was good at that time Yeah It was good're gonna trade you to lakers it was good at that time right yeah that was good when i got there we were i fucked it up i fucked the locker room up but shit chemistry went to d minus on 2k but if y'all would have linked up in la that would have been crazy i would have had a fucking time yeah sure for sure my favorite moment for you was when you was on the

Clippers bro y'all had that series Memphis oh man that was fun y'all was hooping bro

it was like it was dope to watch dope to see I'm like damn and the way you you know you you kind of like me

you kind of goofy you be good you have fun with shit so after the games you having a ball like you know what I mean? I'm like, he bringing some life to the Clippers, bro. This shit hard.

My boys have to be away from Washington. He's like, I got to cook. Miami in the playoffs, and we coming back down 23. Yeah, that was dope. That was dope. Yeah, that shit was hard. I was like, I'm having a moment. You know, Blake was, you could tell Blake was like,

he was a little nervous, a little scared of a fucking, I can't think of his name. Z-Bo? Z-Bo, yeah. He was a little scared of Z-Bo. Yeah, I'm saying. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. He was scared of Z-Bo.

So we got down fast, bro. I'm like, man, you start looking at the bench like, man, it's our time. You know, when the starting unit, you know, losing. Like, man, you know, we can shoot the shots we want to shoot. It's our time. They need us right now. We can't do worse than them. Yeah, we can't do worse than them.

So, yeah, that was one of those moments in the playoffs. So, yeah, that felt good. Because, you know, when you come off the bench and the team is balling, you don't want to be that guy that mess up the – Yeah, the facts. Facts. That's pressure right there. Where you have most fun at, though, with the Lakers or the Clippers? was balling. You don't want to be that guy that mess up the... Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. That's pressure right there. Where you have most fun at,

though, with the Lakers or the Clippers? Where was you able to be really swaggy at with the Lakers or the Clippers? I say the Lakers.

Yeah, yeah. I remember y'all turning around to miss. Yeah, yeah. That was one of my favorites. Tony let me rock, though. Yeah, my mom let me rock. He let this thing out.

Tony let me rock. He was cooking out there. He said, go do you. Yeah, that's why I had to ask you, like... Yeah. One of my favorite games bro y'all versus the heat That third quarter. Yeah, but you was a part of some of the craziest right? He gonna push me? I said, he push me? Fuck. Roll the clip, Luis. Luis! Roll the clip.

I said, damn, nigga, fail. Live off the backboard, they was doing some shit, bro. How did you, how did you feel

when they teamed up, man? Since you was in that moment, how did you feel when they teamed up, man? Did you think it was some bullshit? I feel like, yeah, they man? Since you was in that moment, how did you feel when they teamed up, man? Did you think it was some bullshit? I feel like, yeah, they're going to win.

Like, it's over. Same way when KD went to the Warriors. I was going to ask what was worse. Yeah, what was worse? They're going to make it, you know that. It's fun to play with them. It's fun to play against them. It's fun to play against them, but you know the outcome.

Yeah. When they was in Atlanta, they was the number one seed and shit. It was big as shit. They ran into... He be hating on us, bro. He calls us the little giants, bro. He was like, we wasn't supposed to be... We're fucking Adam Sandler team, bro.

We was whooping shit, bro. Y'all was, but... The league was rigged. We weren't supposed to. That's when FanDuel started. FanDuel locked in. Y'all got swept, right? Hell yeah.

We lost to Brown, though. No, they had a great... I give him shit all the time. I mean, we was going to be Brown. How was that all-star selection? Like, how was Jamal looking in the locker room when Kyle Coover got picked? Jamal wasn't there. He wasn't there.

Jamal was in L.A. The one who didn't. Damari. Damari didn't get picked. He might hate it, y'all. I don't know. I mean, shit. We all made it on some.

I knew I was going to make it. I was like, I was going to make it. Like, I was averaging like 19. Yeah. But then we started doing five and five. I knew I was going to make it. I was like, I was going to make it. Like, I was averaging like 19. But then we started doing five in, five out. Like, we was beating people so bad, we was doing five in, five out. So, our minutes was like. Yeah, people don't know. I only played 28 minutes a game.

Like, you know what I mean? It was a starting guard. Y'all was clicking shit for real. Yeah. So, I was only playing 28. But why didn't that transfer it in the first round? No, we won the first round. I mean, when y'all ran into. They made it all the way to for real. Yeah. So I was only playing 28. But why didn't you not transfer it in the first round? No, we won the first round. We made some.

Only when y'all ran into. Right. It always been. Yeah. We, because it's Brian. Shit. That nigga said, I got, I swore the guy at All-Star, he told me, we swept him in the regular season.

Yeah. Beat him by 25 every game. He came to me, he was like, I figured y'all out. Before the game started, I figured y'all out. They do say that Kobe said that I said you figured us out Man

All he did was run one Whatever he was The three one pick and roll Yeah He bring me up there Said it I'll hedge Said it again

I'll hedge again Said it again Eventually I got a switch Bag me down Get to the free throw line Shoot over me If somebody help Throw it to J.R. Smith

Three Throw it to Kevin Love Three I was like Yeah it's over Yeah it's over He figured us out Ain't no way I can go

I'm fucking brah It's over Like what He's like I figured y'all out And it was over Like what the fuck We gonna do Yeah that was impossible

And then Kyle broke his foot Game two Or whatever game He broke his foot It was definitely over Nah y'all had a. Game two, whatever game he broke his foot, it was definitely over. Nah, y'all had a great year. Yeah, it was just, yeah, we take our,

we take our little giant shit. Nah, y'all had a great year. I don't think we had another whole starting line of starting the All-Star game since, right? That's like the last five years. They shouldn't. That's why.

Right. For real. Shit. They did more pisses than they did with y'all. It was only four of us, man. Y'all cool? Nah, Celtics did it too. Yeah, they did too.

Man, that's crazy. We up there with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, KG, and Rondo. See, that's where the show gets spooky. Yeah, we just like to. That's where the show gets spooky. The real Celtics.

We the real Celtics. We just like this. Shit, I'm trying to get him in. How long did he say that goofy ass shit? It's only us. I'm done with that. I'm done with that. I'm done with that. I'm done with that. I'm done to get him to make some fun. Did he say that goofy ass shit? It's only us. I'm doing it. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Say Sean Prince. Now we got to ask who's who. Look, you hear them legends. That shit gets spooky. And then it's me, Kyle Corbin, and I'm fucking promise. Nylon. Fuck y'all. They'm with the problem. Nylon. Nylon. Fuck y'all.

They got us fucked up. Oh, shit. They got us fucked up, man. Kyle Corbin, man. That's tough. I'm sorry, though. Kyle Corbin.

What'd he do in the All-Star game? He hit about five threes. Yeah, what the fuck? They ran screens for him in the All-Star game? I don't know what they was doing,

but he was getting the moment. Kyle had a clip. He had a T-Bone moment in the All-Star game, for sure. Y'all got it, doing, but he was getting up. Kyle had a clip. He had a T-Bone moment in the All-Star game for sure. I got you, bro. I remember him killing Swaggy one time. Roll the clips.

Swaggy's right off the screen. Swaggy's is true. I hate to run it off the screen. I'm not about to get took by a cobra. I know what he's doing. We like, hey, set him away screen. That nigga don't feel like running. Shit.

Swaggy get them steps in. Fucking floppy. Yeah. Run that nigga off the screens, man. Nigga, why do you like playing defense, nigga? Me either. I feel you, brother. That nigga swacking was nothing.

You see? They out there hear me chilling. As soon as that motherfucker hit the rim, nigga. Full speed. Come on, come on come on let's go I said damn

it's so wrong with him he worse than me I used to watch you bro cause what what make it so crazy

cause he really breaks down basketball and one day this nigga was so mad at Luca playing D I swear to god on my keys you was the first person that came breaks down basketball. And one day, this nigga was so mad at Luka playing defense. I swear to God

on my kids, you was the first person that came to my mind. Because they play defense. He was so mad. Now, look at those people walk past us now.

Now, you play more defense. Yeah, I play more defense. Look at those people walk past us now. Oh my God, I was more messed up

on like the team defense. Yeah. Team defense, I used to get lost my God. I was more messed up on, like, the team defense. Yeah. Team defense, I used to get lost in that. But one-on-one, I was cool. One-on-one, I was cool. Look at me chilling. He's like, all right, bro, I'll get the ball back. Let me get the ball back.

Nah, y'all are crazy. That's crazy. Listen, man, one of the biggest in the fashion game, especially hoop-wise, it's crazy you had Simone, when she was the first to hoop in the Yeezys. Y'all was team of D's at the time. You got them in the mail. You would never have had Simone when she was the first to hoop in the Yeezys. Y'all was team Adidas at the time. You got them in the mail. You would never have thought to put them on the court. You went

straight to the face with them. Yeah, I was in the garden too. So, you know, you have to do something for them type of games. Playing New York, you know. And Adidas don't really be having like old school shoes. I'm not about to go get no old Tim Dunkers or something. It's just a pro model

Yeah pro models Here and there But yeah I had to throw those on Nah They alright though They wasn't as bad They wasn't as bad

As I thought they was gonna be I thought it was gonna be I thought it was gonna hurt My feet in them But they was alright Nah you different bro I remember when I did the fashion week

In New York When I made the all star game And that's when The Yeezy first dropped so he gave him to us and we i wore him in a little fashion show shit or whatever and then i remember he was like if you hoop like whoever hooping these like and then i see this i was scared i was scared like but then I see him I said oh this nigga He different He different I told you I need my own

Adidas hoop shoot I need my own hoop shoot Yeah I remember I felt good then I ain't gonna lie Yeah he did that JR had all the pressure

Yeah I was like Hey man Somebody JR My man JR man Get real soon What was the craziest shoe you ever hooped in

I would say those the Yeezy the high top boot that shoe has no stability no stability I don't know how he hooped in but my feet is already custom

they're already dead so fuck it I could hoop in anything yeah I was like how the fuck is he hooping in these boots bruh

it's crazy it was hard too I was like it looked it looked crazy but I don the fuck is he hooping in these boots, bro? It's crazy. It was hard, too. I was like, it looked crazy, but I don't know how he hooping in them. You can hoop in a phone posse. You can hoop in pretty much anything. You a gangster if you go phone posse. That's damn near a boot. That's a fax.

Speaking of hooping in shoes, you know what I'm saying? We didn't know this until later, but Gil hooping in one of your shoes that wasn't meant for shoes. How was you? You look like, bro, what do you want? To look up and see a nigga hooping in your of your shoes that wasn't meant for shoes. How was you? You looked like, bro, what are you on? To look up and see a nigga hooping in your shoes you about to wear to the club is crazy. I go out to do my little shoot, you know, shoot around 15 minutes before the game. I come back,

he got my shoes on, doing this and I'm stumped. And I was like, Ben, I said, dog, what is you doing? He said, man, I'm like hooping these shit. Next thing you know, he out there on the court with some Dolce Gabon's on. Oh, that was yours?

Yeah, that was mine. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, but I came back in the locker room. He was,

had his whole little, the damn shoe thing inside. He had his own little thing in there. Damn. I was like, man. Broke them holes in.

I didn't know that was your shoe. That's crazy. That's a crazy ass story, man. And hoop them hoes in? I didn't know that was your shoe. That's crazy. That's a crazy-ass story, man. I swear to God. And who? He hooped. Who? Who?

Who? He killed him. Did he give him back to you? Yeah, I know. He came back to the game, but them bitches was... They're playing, man. You wouldn't even want them to come to the game. Yeah, I was about to say.

But he's like, yeah. I was like, man, this nigga. This nigga. Y'all took all my attention and shit. I'm low-key mad. Hey, you got a crazy moment that you can share with Gil. That can be talked about on camera.

Well, he'll be your man. If not, it's okay. We can move on. I want to ask you that what is like what is like

working on Gil's arena though like being a part of that podcast oh man oh it's dope it's dope but Gil like he really like

studies everything like when he was doing his little draft thing he called me every minute about who should we draft and break it down trades and how the game thing he called me every minute about who should we draft and break it down trades and how the game go he called like and then he'll do like sneaky stuff he called

ronnie 2k and asked him about certain players on the game like if i shoot with him like what's his stuff like all that so like he really likes to win he gotta win. So he wanted me on it. I never seen him lose in court. I never seen him lose in the courthouse. That's a great place to be undefeated. Yeah, undefeated in the courthouse. On the court, you know, give us the goat when it comes to that no chill shit. He good at that, boy.

He live by it. It's just dope to see y'all relationship, man. Yeah, it's like a big brother it's just dope to see y'all relationship man yeah it's dope what is dope is feeling like see him with your son man yeah that hard sick man that's a hell of a godfather man hell of a godfather but you ain't got some money now hey man you my kids y You got to throw me something. He'll get to that chicken for sure. Oh, and on YouTube every day. We tap there.

Nah, for sure. I wanted to ask you, what's some of the music that you was tapped into when you was in the league? Or even now, what you be vibing to, man? Music? Yeah, who you fuck with? Yeah, of course. You know, Kendrick.

Kendrick, that's my cousin. You know, around in the family. Biologically or married in? Yeah, nah know, Kendrick. Kendrick, that's my cousin, you know. Reminds me of the family. Biologically or married in. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. That's, um, let me tell you, break it down. That's my daddy's sister, daughter, son. There you go, sir. Respect.

It's in the blood. The lineage, for sure. It's in the blood, yeah. Family reunion safety. I dig it. You feel me? So you got him number one right now. Oh, yeah, for sure. It's in the blood, yeah. I dig it. So you got him number one right now? Yeah, of course.

Who your number two? Shit. I don't know. I used to like J. Cole not until... Until he pulled out. That's awesome. He never pulled out. He never pulled out. Stay dangerous.

Hey, man. Y'all got to get these two niggas under control, man. These two guys are here. We got to get swagged to Black Force with the white laces now. It's up now. Y'all like me too much. Y'all pie, man.

Y'all talk about you sticking shoes to jumpers. We talking about a different open gym. The real session. The real session. What's wrong with you, man? Are you sick? Oh, man. But listen, man.

It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? You was getting bucks at the Big 3 starting. Now you called swaggy. You know what I'm saying You was getting bucks To the victory Starting out So now you call Swaggy You know what I'm saying Yeah How was the season man

Man disappointing Shit Talking all that shit In the gallery I think it happened After y'all game Yeah Y'all was talking

All that shit Cause we came on A seven hour flight To play y'all Taking pictures Half time Like damn Look at the school

Taking pictures They beat the shit out of us And we seen the market They was just like We need to finish it We ain't get no We ain't get no promo They beat us by what

30 We only got to 50 We lost by 30 I feel bad I feel bad Yeah I feel bad But they didn't understand

We just took a several hour flight I pulled my groin On the first play I was shitting Some of y'all just got there Yeah I had just got there Me and my little brother Had just got there

Like an hour before Damn But it was cool though We deserved that loss I'm glad y'all lost though How was that first year In a big three You said you glad we lost

Yeah I'm glad to see some real Competitors We made y'all win The next game though I swear y'all did I swear y'all did Y'all didn't want to get

Embarrassed Nah I swear to God We came out playing hard i came out like nba pride came out i'm about to get embarrassed i swear to god we about to win this game we play hard as fuck right although we play at bees and they'll fuck that shit we wouldn't no but now y'all team was dope this year though like watching y'all play then to see you actually really cared on coaching that shit was funny as hell when you broke the clipboard and shit. I was like, hey,

this nigga really out here killing the fuck. I was hot, bro. Reggie Evans don't even be playing basketball. He's just out there just to fight. We just saw him.

Oh, that's the homie. Shout out to Reg, but man, he's just out there to just beat people up. Look your dog, bro. Man.

Yeah, but to see you, hey, to see that reaction bro I was like ah okay We gonna win Yeah I fuck with that I wanted to win

It's tough though Your first year in the big three Like you try to find yourself Like do I go out there And play cool Yeah yeah Do I care as much Yeah

That shit's hard bro Nah I was I was trying to be like I couldn't really Yeah you got fine Get the feel for it Then when I see people Was trying to go at me

I'm like well fuck it I'm just gonna open So it was cool It's cool to be competitive though Then you get Like feel like you're out there Everybody just watching you And shit

That's a lot of pressure Especially that 3L3 It's a microscope on you Man That shit It used to be like this Back then So

But it's dope to see The progression of the league Though You know what I'm saying Like we just made a pioneer With it to where it is now Especially going to the next season You know what I'm saying Like we just made a pioneer To where it is now Especially going to the next season You know what I'm saying

Having the cities and stuff Y'all gonna lock in That's gonna be fun Yeah it's gonna be fun For sure for sure Can't wait I know y'all gonna get better though What y'all doing next year

We got some people on We got some people on Yeah some people You like it man look Nah some people just had Called me man It surprised me You don't want to

get embarrassed again. Nah. The revamp is on the way. 47 to like 11 at one point. Listen, bro, we wasn't even there. I wasn't coming.

They had called. You wasn't there, man. I wasn't there. I think I had a point. I wasn't about to show up. They like fly the same day. I'm like, same day, bro. Y'all didn't even have a big that fly the same day I'm like same day Y'all never had a big that day

Nah I'm from Indiana But y'all been fly to Portland Boy On the same day In that hoop I ain't really built for that But I did it

For the league I fucked with them So I got y'all Then we got our ass beat Y'all give us the best team That's crazy On that day We were in places

The best team That's tough I wanted a rem day, we didn't play since the best team. The best team, but I wanted a rematch, but we didn't get a chance to play, but we'll see. Y'all messed us up because after that, we thought we were so good.

We just like, man, we the best team, dude. We lost three straight after that ass move. Damn. See?

Shit got spooky. Yeah. I'm defeated, so that like messed us up when we lost our first game. We didn't know how to recover, really. Yeah. Damn. Hey, listen, messed us up when we lost our first game. We didn't know how to recover, really. Yeah.

Damn. Hey, listen, we just had DeMar on the show. We talked about the Drew League. You know what I'm saying? Obviously, you going crazy in that. For us basketball fans, we appreciate it so much because we get to see niggas in the league who may not get to get their roles. But we know y'all get to go and get y'all shit. For you, that's showtime for you.

Hell yeah. Describe that feeling to just go play in the Drew with that being home and everything. Drew used to be cracking. I remember me and DeMar get to the championship game. Then we ended up having to play James. And James Harden versus PG. They stacked their teams.

The shit was cracking. You have all LA in in one spot and everybody there to line outside it was crazy it was fun man i didn't win i didn't win my first one till i've been to like five championships and lost all of them to about one you know i went to james and don't stop playing got you look. Look, James and PG is, come on, man, didn't you? It was tough. Yeah, like you said,

the playoff rushes looked a little different. Yeah, it looked different. Yeah, for sure. So, but no, it's been cracking, but I ain't been up there in a minute, you know. Some of the,

everybody getting older, so it's going to be, it's going to take from the young L.A. guys to go there and play again. It's like... Turn it up. Turn it back up, from the young la guys to go there and play against like turn it up to turn it back up but yeah yeah so can anybody just play in there like that's been in the league like say if you got a raw squad and i might be the number three player in the nba can i just come around with you or is it like it's politics it depends if he wants you you know

some people come and get embarrassed. You got to, freaking, they need to ruin like two people's NBA career. It's a ball time. Ball time. Yeah, everybody.

So, damn. I remember when James Jack came cold. He scored like two points or something like that in the Drew.

But, it wasn't because he got shut down. He was just missing. But they was talking trash. They'd be on the mic talking. Yeah. It's a different environment.

Back and forth with the dudes. You got to be... It's different. Then you got dudes from the hood over there talking shit. It was crazy. Yeah.

Y'all got something like that in Indiana? We used to. We used to. We don't got it no more. We used to. We used to. Yeah, yeah yeah Like you said

It's kind of like The older guys Stopped kind of playing The younger generation Got to pick it up You know what I'm saying Take it to the heights But I think the close we had

Unfortunately everybody had During that lockout time Oh that's crazy That's crazy That's when everybody Was like Looking after that The IUPUI

The year after that It was fire Yeah man When Lance When Lance fucked Daquan Cook up. Yes. Yeah, that was a elite one. So that's a round.

Drew is a staple, though. We ain't really doing that. I'm a staple. Yeah. Great one, too. He's Jim, too. That was a good year. Lance killed us that one year.

Lance killed you. Yeah, he got us like 40. Mook had a good year. Yeah, Mook hit the game winning. Mook hit a game. He said, Lance, you might get Lance next year. Damn, that's crazy. He was supposed to be on my team this year, which was crazy.

It was supposed to be me, him, James Johnson, and Paul Millsap, and my brother. Come on, man. We was going to fuck y'all up. What shit is that? We was about to kill y'all. Yeah, they was about to kill y'all. Then James got signed with the Pacers. Lance bagged down the last second like, man, I don't know.

Like, man, I'm trying to still get back in the league. But that was my team at first. I had them on board. I was like, yeah, we about to win this shit. What happened to Millsap? He got hurt the first game? Yeah, the first game he said he pulled his calf muscle. Damn.

Damn. Man, he's supposed to be on my team. Well, something, brother. Yeah, they'll bring you back. Yeah. They got this nigga in there, so shit. Oh, shit. You know, he thought he was dunking like he was 20.

Legs hitting. He did. You're a player. You better do some hook shots. Nigga, let's do some hook shots. Drop some leg up, nigga. That's like, man, it's okay. I'll turn one right now.

I still run with him. Say that nigga do the reverse mic and then warm up. But listen man Swag we appreciate you man We gonna be doing more Big 3 content man We gotta tap back in with you man We gotta talk to you a little bit more man Love bro Thank you for coming man

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