Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Rotimi on ‘Power,’ becoming a FAN of Jeff Teague & Club 520, making music, playing basketball

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 93 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Rotimi, where he talks about being both a musician and an actor. He also discusses how he g...ot the role on ‘Power,’ making a song with Wale, being a huge fan of Jeff and Club 520, playing basketball in New Jersey when he was growing up, and much more!All lines provided by hardrock.betTimeline:3:06 - Episode Start3:45 - Hooping in Chucks5:00 - Rotimi on OG fan of 5206:15 - Basketball in Jersey9:15 - Going to Northwestern University11:00 - Living in Chicago11:45 - Barbee13:00 - Music first14:00 - Kelsey Grammer & How he started acting18:50 - Milestone Moment22:30 - "I haven't made it yet"24:30 - Music career26:15 - "In My Bed" track with Wale29:15 - B Hen playing drums32:45 - Being on Power40:30 - The Chi44:45 - B Hen's church47:45 - Jeff rooting for Mook50:00 - People hating success56:00 - Getting features57:00 - Studying actors59:00 - Parents watching his fame01:01:00 - People he'd like to work with01:04:00 - Fan of Club 520#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:26 It's the weekend, so he's feeling the vibes out. Oh, okay, yeah. You know what I'm saying? We rock with stockics around here. We buy a lot of shoes. Let's see you got the chucks on. Is that just your day-to-day? You performing them or how you wasn't?
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's comfortable, bro. Okay. Yeah, a little comfortable, you know what I'm saying? It's, you know, it matched the outfit. Okay. It was a, yeah. At one point in my life, I was a chuck guy. Yeah, I used to wear Chucks every day.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Shout to Jay Mick. Shout to my uncle, aunt. Man. Who he said I was wearing chucks. he was from L.A. High or low? Huh? High or low tops?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I used to wear high. Yeah, I was a hot chug guy. Yeah, don't fly. I still rock with them, too. What's crazy? This niggas used to really hooping them. That's true. Everybody who, and then pre-70s,
Starting point is 00:08:05 they deserve whatever credit they deserve. Because that was out here hooping with shoes and those souls, bro. Big facts. Shout to everybody in the 70s, man. Niggas are sad anyway. Dominique's told you quit talking about them like that. Well, shout out to Dominique.
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Starting point is 00:09:52 That's what it happens. We was ghetto in a... Y'all still geto in a... Y'all still didn't change. You know, that's changed? The house and we were in court, now, no. We didn't have no business.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You just moved, man. Ain't nothing changed with an address, baby. Talk to him to him. That's so fast. Now, listen, I heard you, you know what I'm saying? You used to hoop in high school.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Is that true? Yes, true, but. Okay, what position did you play? How are you going on the court? I play point guard, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm from Jersey, so. So during that time, yeah, during that time, it was J. Kid, all day.
Starting point is 00:10:25 J. Kid, Kenyon, Martin, you know, Carrie Kiddo's type of vibe. Sox up, baby. Yes, sir. So at that point, it was like, I couldn't, I wasn't the best play on the team. I was more so just a leader. You know, I wasn't O.D. Knights, but I had like four nice niggas around me, so I made sure they got the ball. Okay, okay. But in terms of, like, hooping, yeah, Jay Kid changed everything from me, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, it was tough. So that's what you might as your game after? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, it was just passed first, but I couldn't shoot. He couldn't shoot. You know what I'm saying? All right, now, look, I couldn't shoot. Y'all listen.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Y'all, I got to stop disrespect to Jay Kea a jump shot. I don't want to jump around on the spot. He, what he got the record for like? He top five and three, man. Eventually. No. But they used to call him pacing because he had no Jay. I was there.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That was me. You know what I mean? But, no, he's one of the greatest all the time. No, sure. Yeah, one of the greatest all the time. So that was tough. Man, that's crazy. Jersey towns, them Nets squads.
Starting point is 00:11:24 When they moved to Brooklyn, it was like, I can't really be a Nets fan for real because I'm not from Brooklyn. Yeah. You know, but so at that point, it was more so just, like, who do I like? What player do I rock with?
Starting point is 00:11:35 You know what I mean? What year did you come out of high school? 06. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's some killers in Jersey. Did you play St. Anthony's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, shit. They have some, they have some killers. Patrick. Yeah, St. Patrick's R.P. So you play Corey Fisher. Corey Fisher, Villanova. Oh, my God. Randy Ford was cool.
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Starting point is 00:12:08 I got what you, bro. Lance Thomas was that nigga, bro. Weekway was Tom. He busted Greg. Oh, really? No, no. He didn't defend himself? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:19 50. He ain't. No, no, no, la, la, no, no, no. I remember ABC to tell me it to do that, but I don't know. He didn't do that. No, no, no, no, la, no, no. No, it's not true. No, it's not true.
Starting point is 00:12:32 No, it's not true. Listen, bro, this is a basketball part. We really, we clown, but we are tapped in. Especially in our era growing up, like, Greg, we giving him shit. He was the best to ever do this shit for real. Yeah, yeah. Nah, we remember Lance, bro, 42 was a problem. No, he was good.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah, that was a percent. Yeah. Y'all had some killers up there. That's all right. Oh, bro. It was tough, bro. It was tough. Like, it was, you had to even have heart or actually skill.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Me, I was a heart naked. You know, okay. And I was all heart, you know, but yeah, it was tough. So you know some, shout, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was tough. That's what's up. All right, man. So how did you end up in Northwestern? Yeah, I was going to be at West.
Starting point is 00:13:12 That's random as hell. That's the hell what's going to. This shot. This shot. He was always supposed to be in a shot. I see the player? Yeah, you understand. So my mom, so I'm Nigerian, right?
Starting point is 00:13:22 So everything is education at first. You know, so my mom, my mom was like, yeah, this is a school called Northwestern that wants to just, you know, I went there for voice performance. So I audition. And I got in, but it was early decision. So once I got in, I couldn't go anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So when I got in, it was just like, okay, this is exactly where I need to be, but it was cold, bro. Oh, it was cold, big tent. For sure. All like, OD, white. people. It was a culture shop. You know what I mean? But it was exactly where I
Starting point is 00:13:52 need to be because, you know, I'm very big on my spirituality. So God was like you need to go there because after that it was boss and all the other things. But at first it was like, why am I going there? I wanted to go to Princeton genuinely. Yeah, yeah. My SAT scores
Starting point is 00:14:08 and shit was cool. But I love Princeton because there's a lot of pretty girls at Princeton. You know, and at that point it was just like, let's just make it make it make sense. So Northwestern was the wave. Okay. Genuinely.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. Did you ever tap into the Chicago while you was at, northwestern, though, at the actual city? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going to eat out south. What was that O'Block? Oh, yeah. Nah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 He's not going to fly. I ain't going to have far, but I don't even know if O'Block was O'Block when I was dead. It was a pretty great. It wasn't, bro. Yeah. It was all about, but it wasn't how it's like. But when y'all was, like, being here, like, how many times did y'all in Chicago? A lot, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:47 A lot, a lot. Everybody go to Chicago. The first time I ever had a jerk was in Chicago, bro. They had a, damn, what's the food festival? That taste. It's a taste. Yeah, yeah. Legendary.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, summertime, Chicago's the best ever, bro. That's a fact. Chicago's underrated. Food and fashion is Chicago. Yes, sir. But North Washington changed my life, bro. It made me understand, like, what it meant to be a man. I went there at 17.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I skipped a grade, so I was early there. Yeah, I had to. You had to, bro. It was just one of those things where it's like, you got to figure out. who you are now in this world, you know what I mean? What's that mean? I don't know what they mean.
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Starting point is 00:15:59 Damn. I'm good. Thank you so much. Damn. You asked me how I was doing? Oh. Yeah, damn. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:16:55 Oh man That's wild So what did you get into first Acting or the music No it's definitely music I've been singing since I was three Four years old Oh for real
Starting point is 00:17:06 I was a Nigerian wedding singer At four years old bro Oh yeah you like me for sure Damn they was booking you like that But I was nice bro In Nigerian wedding, they throw money. I'd be seeing that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So my mom was a hustler. So she was like, oh, you can sing. All right, cool. I sing for the bride. And then they were just throw bread everywhere, Connecticut, Philly. So I was like, okay, if I could do this for the rest of my life, this is what I'm supposed to do. My boy was on tour before he was a kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's lit. My mom's off to play. Yeah, my first manager, bro. You know, so music. But then acting came about when I was broke. Like, I was broke, bro. Like, after leaving Northwestern, all my friends was like, I'm doing investment. the banking and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And for me, it was like I just love the craft. And so it's a long story. I try to make a short, but, you know. I talk a little bit. Yeah, hell, yeah. So when I graduated, had no money. I lived in high part. And so my manager at the time, he was like, yo, bro,
Starting point is 00:18:04 you're natural in front of the camera. Why don't you just try to act, you know, why don't you get in front of, you know, why don't you go to the city and just see what it is? This is before social media was social media. So you had to actually go and hand your resume in front of all these booking agents and everything. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:21 So no one took me, bro. Everyone was like, I don't know you. I've never seen you. But the coolest thing about it was the last place I went to was a boutique agency and her son went to Northwestern. So she was like, let me just make sure like alumni is okay.
Starting point is 00:18:38 She was like, I don't know if you can act, but I'll take you in because you need something. There was a Monday. on Wednesday she was like you know what there's an audition for a TV show called boss learn the lines you're not going to get the role because it's already taken
Starting point is 00:18:56 so just get used to auditioning so when I went in that same day Kelsey Grammer was basically saying thank you for all the casting that they were doing so she was like yo you know what Kelsey just watched this kid he's here
Starting point is 00:19:11 bro he said yo go i said all right cool my dog like literally he was like try it this way try it try it this way try it this way i did the audition eight or nine times not knowing he was like you know what this kid special i got the i got the job three four days later damn so they fired old boy you weren't supposed to even get it i wasn't supposed to get it well your first acting like premiere was in front of kelsey grim like that's that's a lot of pressure but exactly i didn't I didn't even really care who he was. I was on some music shot. You know, I don't know if you remember when you had the rubber bands, like the websites.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I was passing Rotemimmy Music.com to everybody. Oh, the liftroles? Bro. That's a lot of ass, bro. Literally. I didn't care about none of that. I was on some other, you know, so, like, for me, it was, let me get my music out there. And then three, four days later, they called me, you got the job.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So they fired, old boy. So then they give me $150,000. Oh, then you turns up. But not, but I'm stoned. I was scared, bro. I didn't know what I got the job for. So my first acting job was on set and my first acting class was on set.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh, shit. Yeah, bro. So Kelsey was like, yo, camera left is this, camera light. This is where you stand. All right, these little things are called sides. So, like, my whole experience was, like, in the moment, go. But you're learning from one of the best producers. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And one of the lead actor. So it's like, I guess your learning curve or whatever you want to call it. It's fire. But it's fire, though. You got somebody that's like him teaching you and telling you how to go what it should look like. Exactly. I mean. Bro, it's like.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's like learning from LeBron a little bit. Basically. Not for real. It's like a nigga shooting in the gym, like genuinely and like just killing everybody. And he's like, yo, how long you've been playing basketball? This is my first day. And like, all right, well, just come try out for. the Lakers, and you make the team.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And it's like, it's like one of those situations. That's crazy. It's just God ordained, bro. Because y'all know he made girlfriends, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. I was just making sure if everybody, you know, like, your grandmother ain't know. Hey, that's how I was, like, for that to be, like,
Starting point is 00:21:27 your first run in, I thought you were going to say some other shit. Like, that is kind of crazy. It was meant to be. Yeah, it was meant to be. Yeah, it was one of those things where it was like you just trust the process, bro. And then the funny thing, too, while I was filming, And then boss, Courtney Kemp, the creator of power, she was watching boss.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So she was like, who is that kid? So while she was creating it, it became a situation where it was like, it's meant to be. It was meant to be. Oh, a thousand percent. Yeah, yeah. It was always cool, bro. Oh, I knew you went from zero to 150,000.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, bro. So what did you? Hold on. So what did you? No, I was terrified, bro. You getting money. No, don't listen to hell. Bro, what's the thing?
Starting point is 00:22:12 I don't know. I don't even know what this means. I don't know what this means. If it makes the show, it makes you know. I don't know what that means. What are you asking me right now? Just get it out. Oh, we went Choms too.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay. This is brought to you by John. I didn't know we go on. Make sure that ACH is going on. Oh, sorry. I didn't know we was with Chauvin. I didn't know who was trying No, real shit
Starting point is 00:22:43 He was like, bro, Tony got just talking before the show Just have fun, bro, this have fun I just want to know like Because I obviously Coming from like nothing to something I've been in that position
Starting point is 00:22:52 What did you do when you got that 150? Like was it like Yeah, I'm about to find me A nice place or would you like Yeah, when they finally settled in Yeah Nah
Starting point is 00:23:01 Mom Mom's for Tom Yeah The first thing I did bro Was save 120 of it Wow, you better than me. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I saved $120 and got like a real cheap apartment in high part for the first year. Well, nice. Yeah, so, like, I didn't spend any of my boss money and I didn't spend any of my power money throughout the whole time I was working. Wow. Yeah. I'm not Nigerian, bro. I mean, listen. Okay, let me.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm not Jerry. My pops was like, listen, bro, my cool thing. Sorry to cut you off. No, no, no, do your thing. But, like, my pops is like, if you really like that, if you're a star, bro, save this and live off of 20, 30,000, and figure it out. And I'm competitive. So I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:23:51 I'll do it. And that's what I did for the last, for 10 years, bro. Damn. My whole power check, boss check, I turned it into real estate. Damn, that's great. I used none of it. Yeah, I lived off of hosting and endorsements. And, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Shout out to AMP as well, you know, so like. Oh, gee. Yeah, just shows and things like that. That's very impressive. Thank you, but. Like, because. What'd you do with your first million, bro? Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Oh, my God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Listen, they know, what did you do, David? If I didn't get that second VHA, boy, we wouldn't be here. Really, bro, no, what you do? What's you to do? Like, for real, like.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So, look, you got to think, when you first, you know, obviously taxes hit you. So big facts I just wasn't crazy I signed I think my first check was my first year was one point three
Starting point is 00:24:45 tough so you cut it and a half taking home a couple 700, 800,000 whatever it is by career well I rented a career my first year smart
Starting point is 00:24:54 wasn't too bad so I think I say maybe like four or 500 thousand a year but my mom she ain't working no more my mom was early like it
Starting point is 00:25:04 early you retire now birthed that we're not doing my dad wouldn't like that, but my mom, and they wouldn't, like, my mom wasn't expensive. And she's like, oh, dear, nothing. So it was easy.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But after my fourth year, I had, like, 1.5, say. Tough. And a lot of people are out of the league after their fourth year. You know what I mean? But I was blessed enough, lucky enough that I ended up getting another contract. But if I would have just played that four years, I'd been cooked.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Cooked, yeah? I've been cooked. So that's why I'm blessed, and I'm so thankful for how long I played and I got a chance to play. That's tough, bro. What did you do with the first, like after that second check? Oh, when I got the second deal? Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, come on, man. I went about a crib. I went a million on them. He went G-wagon. He went G-wagon. What? G-wagon, million crick. Tough.
Starting point is 00:25:54 G-wagon. My clothes was different. So when did you start getting like comfortable in the industry, though? Comfortable in the industry. Like, where you feel like, okay, give me a, you feel like you made it. or you still feel like you know what I mean you're trying to get to that point like I know I know me bro
Starting point is 00:26:13 I ain't make you yet bro like genuinely you know what I mean like I've done fly things is a part of my journey but I haven't made it yet to my standard I know who I am I know I'm one of the most gifted niggas ever bro and I have to live that
Starting point is 00:26:33 so it's coming it's happening You know what I'm saying? It's in the process. So give me a year and a half and then I'll be able to answer that. You know what I mean? But like I'm getting there. One of my favorite questions I always to ask artists,
Starting point is 00:26:48 what's more fun, creating the art or sharing it or performing it? I ask specifically with the music. Hmm. Because I've seen some of your concerts. The vibes is hot. The vibes are super. The vibes hot. You cause a lot of arguments on the way home.
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Starting point is 00:32:02 partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. I'm like, hey, man, y'all seen this nigga concerts. Mm-hmm. Bro, bro, freaky. Hold on, I know you got your boy, you know, you got your bad. No disrespect, but my wife watches this shit. And I'm like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Bro, in his own, man. And she got me in there frees. You learn how to you, love me. My boy, T-J, I'm with the Afro beats. The Afro is shit different. Hey, what's your favorite Afrobeast song, bro, right now? Okay, look. This is about you, but it could be about me.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Lines for us, bro. So, DeVito, you got a song with DeVito called Love Reddit, Love Rhythm or something. No, that's just me. That's just you. I thought DeVito was on that. But DeVito Phil, is my shit. Yeah, yeah. That is, that vibe.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, that is my shit, bro. That's tough. That's tough. What about you be? Oh, bro. Anything I've seen women dancing to, too, I'm something, bro. You're smart man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Burn a boy, tough. I like Wiz kid. Tough. Tough. I fuck a Wiz kid. I fuck with Oak Shorty. This is the keys
Starting point is 00:33:11 that you cannot buy. Tams is tough. Oh, she gave me to my shit. My feet get the moving a little bit. I ain't know what too. I just like that. I sing her concert. I said,
Starting point is 00:33:21 Woo. You got to come to my show, bro. With your song, too, with a damn. With Waleigh? My brain fogging up. There's a meeting in my bed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Hey, at the hookah lounge I just left it out of it I just left it I don't even smoke hookah, dude I swear to God I don't know what you do to these girls The vibes is high, bro
Starting point is 00:33:48 I was love to come to the show I would love to come down to show I don't know because that that song that song right there I'm gonna keep a bean we went to go see a house today me and my wife we went to go see a house and she played
Starting point is 00:34:00 that show and she's like Oh you by the real? She was like, you're about to interview. I said, yeah, relax. She said, she put it on. I said, no. That's tough. That's, that's, that's, I'm up with that song.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I said. We're jumping all over the place. It's going to be, I'm really, like, into music. He's singing that, brother? I just had some shots. She knows. I'm going to go home. We're jumping all over, bro. I want to ask, like, how did that song, like, come about?
Starting point is 00:34:29 And did you, it's two part. Like, did you know that was going to? be the one that's a great question bro um all right so when you're a part of a show like power it could easily just be you are dray forever right yeah yeah so i had just signed my deal with empire and they were like bro you have five days to make a hit record damn yeah i have five days bro yeah five days bro they're like you have five days because you got to get back to filming because uh stars is tripping that you're leaving I said, fuck.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Okay, so my man hit me. Did the man. Yeah, H. Money, Harmony Samuel, shout out to Harmony Samu's. He hit me. He was like, yo, I have this idea. And I got this Lauren Hill Fuji sample. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I was like, all right, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:35:17 He was like, it goes like this. There's a meeting in my bed. And that's all he said. And he was like, yo, I promise you just fly out to L.A. tomorrow, bro. We'll finish it. I was like, damn. Empire just told me I got five days. he just gave me a cool idea
Starting point is 00:35:32 let's just go I went out there bro and just finished the record and it changed my life it was one of those things where you just had to trust your instinct because anybody else would have heard over the phone
Starting point is 00:35:46 I got this idea you're not going to move you're not going to change your reality even though I knew I had pressure on me that wasn't enough to make things move but it was you know what I trust it pulled up, finished a song in 45 minutes, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Damn. 40 minutes, bro. Damn. And I remember making a, it's like Instagram was like this, 2019. So Instagram, I remember like, yo, I just made a record that's crazy. It's going to change the world. I remember saying that. And two weeks later, it just took off.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So then I hit Wa-A. So I'm Nigerian, Walei Nigerian. Shout out to DJ Money forever. Thank you, DJ Money. DJ Money was my dog. I was like, yo, bro. you think while they would get on this man because it's like it's lyrical girls gonna like this i think it's gonna go and he was like let me play for let me play for bro bro heard it and just went
Starting point is 00:36:41 nuts true three days later that's his fact so it didn't even matter if i had the whole album ready we had the one swap you know what i mean and before that we had a record called love rhythm that kind of just started them started that's the one i was talking i didn't mean to say I don't say that's my guy But love rhythm That's my shit That's what I really know you for Oh that's love
Starting point is 00:37:06 For real That's what I really know you for Thank you bro So we had that one But I was one of the first people In America Kind of just take the flag Of Afrobeats
Starting point is 00:37:15 Because I remember going to radio stations And radio stations And radio stations was like I can't Hey man I can't get the What is this man I can't get the beat bro
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know what I mean It's like I don't know I know that beat very well What? Yeah Yeah That rhythm That's why we tapped in
Starting point is 00:37:34 That's why I created it The same rhythm That's a classic bar you just put it Yeah, be here and do play the drums I do Yeah, I'm a drummer for real, bro Yeah, bro Like I really like
Starting point is 00:37:46 Even when we first started Like this I used to play field For DeVito like all the time I just love that shit Like I don't know The vibration of that music That you're making it crazy
Starting point is 00:37:57 Probably bro. No, you're Nigerian. My mama hair a little nappy, bro. Sure, I might be, bro. Like, I'm really tapped in. I am 58% out of Germany. I don't know why. You 50%?
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, for sure. Hold on, my great bad. I'm bullshit, bro. I'm bullshit, bro. I'm bullshit, bro. No, no. Like, we did that my cousin did the ancestry, and we literally got the same.
Starting point is 00:38:20 My mama and her dad is brothers and sisters. And then my dad, her mom and brother and sister. I know we did we just sang. And she's 58%. I'm really, my dream, I ain't been overseas nowhere yet, bro. My first time, I really want to make it Lagos in Nigeria, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Come on, pull up, bro. Like, I'm so for real, bro. All right, let's do this now, right? Like, for real. When I have a show in Indiana, yeah, you got to play the drums. He's going to fuck it up. I'm really like that. No, for real.
Starting point is 00:38:52 For real. I'm looking at you. Ro, I'm telling you. Hey, this is the moment. O-G. All right. I can't really play the drums. He's really good play the drone.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. Don't try to be with a good time. I'm telling you. Yo, I can't wait. Watch, much. Watch.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Watch. I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait. I'm dead assing. I'm dead-ass. Like, I listen. I listen. Hey, link in bio.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah. They try to pick me out. Here's the one. Hey, Gage. for supporting that. I don't know. What the fuck, Mike's on that? Yo.
Starting point is 00:39:32 For real, let's do a show. Oh, yeah, we got to make it happen. You heard a lot. Let's do a live show. Let's do that. Let's do a live show in Indiana. You heard it here first. Can we break the news soon since we live?
Starting point is 00:39:43 This comes out on Monday. Since we're doing a live show on Houston, I talked before, be here's hometown. Special guests. He's confirmed out. I'll be there. Yes, sir. Are you signed?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'll be there. Yeah, we got. We got Bumby. We got Boney. Bring the John here. Here we got wrong to see me. It's lit. Will, we're afraid.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I want it to be for real. You think I'm, I'm going to be, I'm going to be off this. I'm going to be crazy, bro. Yo. Bro, I'm dead serious, bro. The lot. It got to be real. I take, I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:40:12 No, I'm going to be sick. No, I'm really like it. Yeah, he's scared. Off this, I'm going to have to be sober. I want to be pissy drunk at my show. If you really pull up, I promise you. I promise you. We'll make it as professional as possible.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Mike, Mike. Come on. I'm dead serious, bro. You know, this is going to be the best show ever. Come on, bro. If you ain't got your tickets to the show, I feel sorry for you. This is my God. Yeah, I, I, he's locked in.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The vibe is so good. You think I'm joking, bro. I'm dead serious, bro. I'll be October 4th. October 4th. We're in Houston, baby. October 4th, yeah. We're locked in and loaded.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It's all wax. Where are we at? Come on, House of Blues, baby. Slide. Oh, House of Blues. It's the Vi. Come on, House of Blues. House of Blues.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Boys, man. House of the Bulls, man. House of the Bulls. That's the end of this episode. It looks like Phil Jackson. Kobe, go. Oh, that's what I'm tough, man. That's tough, man.
Starting point is 00:41:07 That's tough, man. Now, listen. Obviously, the acting side is crazy. You're in two prominent black shows, man. First, we got to start with power, right? Everybody watched Power at a house off show. Yes, sir. Hey, man, what's that feeling like to be a part of a show
Starting point is 00:41:21 that everybody looks forward to? It's like, I'm one of the people summertime. I'm skipping the club. come on 12 and 1 stars load up the jerk i need to see it yeah what's it like being a part of a cult following bro you don't even know you like you don't even really know you a part of something so special because you're just working mm-hmm you know what i'm saying like you hear the noise but it's like i got to deliver i knew that every time i stepped on set it was going to be special but at the same time it was like damn like i can't mess up bro i got to i got to drive i got to drive
Starting point is 00:41:54 We've got to be this. So again, I'm an athlete mentality at heart. So whether it was Amari, whether it was Joe Shakora who played Tommy, whether it was Michael Rainey who played Tariq, I was trying to dominate everything. So I was trying to make sure that you remembered Dre. You know what I mean? And everybody had the same mindset. So that's what made us great. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:19 I think you said something a couple months ago, you're like, yo, you're competing against your team. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's really what it is. You know what I mean? So like it felt that way. Everybody, because we didn't, so basically we didn't start, no one was stars, bro. No one was fly.
Starting point is 00:42:37 No one was the guy. I can stand next to Drake, Chris Brown, this, and be just as relevant, you know? That's 100%. And the battle, and the battle was, all right, don't get big headed, bro. Like, you know, you got to be on set tomorrow. Just keep killing. Yeah. You know, I've seen a lot of actors be like, damn, I finally made it, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'm here. And just fall off. Damn. For me, it was like, all this is motivation. You know, I got to keep killing. You know what I mean? And so. Does that come from your parents, though?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah. Keeping you grounded, like your pops and shit. Yeah, it came from just being, just being, again, like, yeah. But at the same time, innately, like, I'm a savage, bro. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, for me, mentally, I just want to just dominate everything. thing.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah, got you know, certain people have that type of mindset. You know, some people are just naturally gifted. I happened to be, I didn't take an acting class, a music class in my life. So I never experienced what it is to be taught this. I just know that I just want to just dominate. So that's why I trust my intuition. So any actors out there, any musicians out there, just trust your intuition, trust your instincts. And then trust in God, man.
Starting point is 00:43:52 That's what guided me. those three things guided me, you know, to where I'm at now. You got a lot of guide-given ability there. That's a fact. Like, you are one of them ones for real. Not to have no classes? I never took class. Okay, so for you to never took class, like, what is?
Starting point is 00:44:08 I hope I answered the question, but. No, you did. Okay. Before being here and go crazy, because I know he's about this, that's something funny. I want to ask you, like, what is it like to, like, because you could have been a hated character on the show. Yeah. Like, people love you and then people hate you.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Right. Like, what's that? like when people are so invested in the show and they come up to you and like, you got me fuck. Like, you're like. And that's the time of crazy. I ain't going to lie all me to jump because you're going to answer the question. I swear, I'm just giving you y'all a quick story.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Ludacris Weekend. Yeah. I swear to God, this is me, Shelby, engineer for my boy, if y'all watch it. Shout to K.Y. It did. Young Dolph was still, God bless the under. Yeah, bless the R.P. Bro, I seen Tyreek get pressed at Ludo weekend, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Is recently? This is, no, this is like a few years ago I'm shoving them had me out for the weekend. Why are you letting him get clapping? I was like, bro, this is because I watch y'all, but I'm not really. They really the TV is. I'm not really.
Starting point is 00:45:05 But I was like, people don't understand this is just a character. Like, people was really walking up to him, cussing him out, bro. Yeah, bro. Like, that is really crazy. Like, they talk of a doctor, bro. They hate you outside of your robe?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah. They lock that means you doing your job. I'm like, this shit is fake. Like, why are y'all pressing him? Now, he let me get clapped, but you got to understand, bro, like, we're in people's living room every Friday or Saturday or Sunday for years.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, people used to have parties here about power. Power parties. Bro, we were, we were everybody's escape from life. It's a fact. You get what I'm saying? So, like, you escape to this world and you feel like you're a family member, you know, and I had to realize, I'm like, damn,
Starting point is 00:45:49 like, we really are affecting people. The illest thing that Tyrese told me, And Jamie told me, shout out to both of them. Shout out to Jamie Fries. The illest thing they told me, bro, was they all knew that music is my heart. So they were like, yo, just kill this and make them want to research who's killing this. You get what I'm saying? Understood.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And so before that, I was like, man, why do they keep calling me Dre? I hate that. That's not my name. Da-da-da-da-da. Girls coming up. You cute. But I can't stand your ass. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:46:24 but that shit real. But I'm like, damn. Like, you know what I mean? And then I had to realize like, one is a compliment. Two, it's also a testament to how you're affecting people. But keep killing it to be like, yo, who is actually playing Dre?
Starting point is 00:46:43 And they just start doing this. Oh, his name is Ro Timmy. Oh, wow. Then they start following everything else. So that was the illest. illest, like, advice that I've ever received, man, like, just kill to the point where they have to know who you are. And that's what changed the game.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah, because I was like, this nigga. Y'all are a hell of the people who are repressing y'all. Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, y'all are doing what the fuck y'all you post to them? He had me mad sometimes. Yeah. I'm over there watching Perl. Like, man, what are he on?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. He was a real. He was a real, man. Yeah, I'm like, this is a real name. Bro. Why are you going to get gas from you left the city, man? I was pissed up there. Why didn't get gas?
Starting point is 00:47:22 No. It was supposed to do it. It was going. Explain. They went to the gas station on the run from the cops. He was called a body. You got to explain. Bro, I used to read it and be like, damn.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I would like, Courtney, I got to do this. Like, these knickers gonna hate me. She said, yes. Okay. You know what I mean? But it was a part of it, man. It affected people, man. Like, it made people feel something, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:48 And so I thank God for that. So, listen, man, now you're on another one of my favorite shows, Rashah, nah, you're going to love this. My boy grew up in the church. We always had a power rankings of the freaky people in the church. Now, normally we give the, no what I'm saying, the love to the deacon. Normally, they didn't ask the nash the nigga in the church. Who my boy in the church?
Starting point is 00:48:04 My boy playing a child, the associate pastor. Oh, he's the nasty. Oh, he's the shit. And I bring the girls to the niece. To pray, to pray, to pray, to pray, to pray, to pray to God. To pray to God. My boy went Do you need a prayer today?
Starting point is 00:48:23 To pray To pray May Wiley I didn't I never see the passion Deliver prayers Pray What are you
Starting point is 00:48:33 What are you stoo in the hell No You don't need a break He's your husband That's crazy Nah, bro You've been getting your shit off man
Starting point is 00:48:43 It's one of my favorite shows I'm going to tap in No, they don't went crazy My boy was pulling up It was every single mother With no niggins at home He found everybody in church
Starting point is 00:48:56 Can I come inside? Yeah, yeah, it was different, bro Hey, yo Yeah, yeah I want to ask, obviously you've been a part of starting franchisers What's it like to go into a franchise I already have some momentum
Starting point is 00:49:07 And then kick it to the next level Because obviously it's going in a different direction Everybody's growing with the show What's like joining something Already had a status? Again, it's like being a free agent, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You know what I'm saying? Again, like everything correlates to sports to me in my mind, bro. It's like it's a new team. They're already winning. They're a hit show. So it's like going to play with Yokic, them niggas, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, how do I fit in?
Starting point is 00:49:34 You've seen what I've done on another team. So it's trying to figure out where do I play? Like, how do you, how did you fit into a situation knowing that you nice, but they already got a movement going. Oh, it's different for me. They had enough money I fit in you. You want me to play the bench? You got no money, I'll be on the bench.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You want me to start? It didn't matter. The check was right. I'm down. Oh, yeah, I play. You want me to shoot? I'll shoot a lot. You want me to sit the bench.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Whatever you want, and honestly, bro, like, to that extent, it's like, do you want me to shoot? Do you want me to play, just play defense? Do you want me to just be a, that's what it was. And, like, people don't understand, like, with the shy. I was only supposed to do two episodes. Oh, damn. I was literally only supposed to be there for two episodes.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And I knew I was like, man, like, look, I got a, it's basically a 10-day contract. Like, what do I do? You know, I know what I've done. But in this industry, what you do doesn't, what you've done doesn't really matter, bro. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Hey. Oh, my phone.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Oh, he wanted you pull it closer, folks. Do you hear me? Yeah, he didn't want to do more side, like that we He was, oh, he's wild Can you hear me, bro? Yeah, he said what, yeah, he said You can't hear it the whole time?
Starting point is 00:50:53 No, I can't get it. No, you didn't hear any. He was just saying, my fault. So, so for me, it was like, being on the show, I was a 10-day contract because I had two episodes only.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Damn. Shout out to Lean away. She was like, yo, I have an idea for you. I think you playing a pastor would be really dynamic. Like, what do you think? I said, yeah, hell, yeah, that's dope. She's like, I got two episodes.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And when I did it, I was like, man, I got to ball out, bro. I got to do everything. I got to chair when people on set. I got to make sure everything. I was like, this is an opportunity because most people, most actors don't get an opportunity to be on two-hit shows ever in their life. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay, wow, you know, this is a moment. And I just killed, bro, like, I stepped into a realm of like, I have to be here. Man, how the hell do you prepare to be a pastor? Pastor Charles. Because this is, look, bro, and this is, we just get our shit off on here. But I'm saying, though, like, you're so talented, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Like, how do you, like, tap into that mode? Like, DJ so much you pulling up to the dick's houses. Nah, I'm telling you, seasons, it's so crazy. Listen, his head pastor had left his main wife for his sidepiece and then left her for a white woman. That sounds like my church. Shouts of River Johnson. And. No, no
Starting point is 00:52:17 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, Redmond Johnson? Oh, shoot. No, he's on my pastor dirty every weekend. Shot the pastor Covency, you still, it's been a legend. He's still a legend. No, God bless. If you got to get the camera on O.D. Airbride down, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Pass, you know, that? You know that? I don't, I don't watch TV. That's funny. That's funny. Boy, you pastor Johnson. That's funny. Not the job for y'all thinking about Easton Stark right now.
Starting point is 00:52:55 No, we're not talking about. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, not Easter Star. No, definitely not. Hey, what's the sign label, nigga, tell me? No, no. What's the sign?
Starting point is 00:53:06 No, no, no. Pastor Jeffrey would never, never. Oh, man. It's a different job. Now, that's a common name. He's talking about Jacob That was about the fuck the city up, boy Jacob
Starting point is 00:53:21 Jacob You're about to end the home Jacob If you didn't clarify We're about to have We're about to have to fight some Oh my God Standing up outside
Starting point is 00:53:30 Oh my Jesus And by the pocket It's more My guy's name Johnson Oh my God Sheriffry They're my guys
Starting point is 00:53:42 bro Oh my god The bigger church of the city The biggest church in the city We're about to be fighting niggins of suits Fuck would be here Y'all diggers got to be sweating Oh my girl
Starting point is 00:53:55 Sit the fuck damn I said No I was talking about my pants Oh yeah Yeah yeah You know You know this church
Starting point is 00:54:08 This church got 30 members I didn't talk about. What the fuck I was about to ask right now? Oh, my goodness. His church only got 30 members. We didn't talk about it. Barby, can I get some napkins or something? Shit.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Yeah, let me get whatever Jeff drinking, bro. Hey, what's this right here? What's that? Barbie! Yeah, let me get some of that. Barbie!
Starting point is 00:54:32 She's still here? Oh, man. I don't even know where to go out there. Can I get a perfect tell? Bernie. You sure you want to drink? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I guess I have a drink, thank you, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Oh, man. Hey, I'm out of fucking pocket. This is dope. This is dope. I said, be here and need some holy water. That's a fact. My mama say that every day I see her. She's saying, hey, the way y'all be talking, be here and need holy water.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I love, I love Mama, too. She's one of my favorite. Hey, can I ask you a question, for sure, for sure. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paula Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians.
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Starting point is 00:55:37 There's not a single day that Paola and I, on call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away.
Starting point is 00:56:28 They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's smart for generations.
Starting point is 00:56:37 We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is Sprott. I wouldn't fight him.
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Starting point is 00:57:23 anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coach. strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
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Starting point is 00:58:45 and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, tie. We live it. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Were you ever jealous of your brother success as he was coming up? My little brother? Nah, I used to champion that.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Like, I wanted him to be way better than me. Like, I'm like, I knew I was successful at basketball. Yeah. I'm like, if my little brother is better than me, like, our family is set forever. Yeah, we get goaded. Thank you. Yeah, like, I want you to outdo everything I did, like, ever. So in high school, I was hard on him.
Starting point is 00:59:32 So when he was a young guy, and he was ranked number one, two in the country. I would be like, man, you ain't, you ain't shit. You're weak, bro. He'd be like, I'm rent tired of you. I'm like, yeah. That's light, though. Like, you ain't going to make to the league. And then we make to the league, I was the same type of thing.
Starting point is 00:59:49 But I'm still proud of him to this day. Like, I'm so happy for him. He made to the NBA. He had us, you know, he's living a cool-ass life. That's tough. I was always happy for him. That's it, but. Because I wasn't rent.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Really? I was like, I was unknown for, like, my whole. Because I was. He was a Lake Bloomer, I was a street, I was a street basketball player Everybody knew you, everybody knew, oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:13 everybody knew about it was cold Yeah, they knew me, but like I hung out with my crowd, my friends was different. Like, G.O. here, yeah. Big 50, they had a high- team, they knew 50,
Starting point is 01:00:27 they were 18, they wasn't going to the same parties I was going to. Yeah, I was going to. And if you see me now, I still go to different parties and everybody, but I was going to...
Starting point is 01:00:38 Different algorithms. My algorithm was different. I like that algorithm, by the way. Yes, sir. But I was in the school. I was with... Yeah, yeah, yeah. My guy, some of my friends went to prison.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And it's not a bad thing, but that was my friend. I was thinking of basketball, the way they... Like, he's been NBA since we thought of. Younger. I wasn't thinking like that. So when my little brother was in the same position, kind of like, Greg, he was one, two, in a nation. I was like, oh, we're not letting you not make it to the NBA.
Starting point is 01:01:06 That's tough I was always happy for him I don't have a hate bone in my body I can't because I want everybody to win That's rare That's rare, bro
Starting point is 01:01:17 Why not though Most niggas is hate, bro But since it's a fact Is that heavy? Is that heavy? Let's just make it simple Is it heavy in your industry? Absolutely
Starting point is 01:01:26 Okay Why hate though Because niggas is Insecurity, Ego, pride Jealousy Trauma But what that's going to do for them?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Like, if you winning, what's that going to do for me to hate on you? I'd rather be with the winners. I always want to be with the winners. It's that logical. Yeah. But most people look at it like a crap. Only our people look at it like that, bro. Like, we're only people that be like, man, that nigga's 60 years old and he's looking in.
Starting point is 01:01:57 But the other side will be like, look at Garf Brooks. He's 60 and he's just amazing. Our whole mindset is just hate, hate, hate, hate. Hate, hate. I ain't got that. You don't champion nothing, bro. I champion a barrel mentality. Robbs and a barrel is survival.
Starting point is 01:02:12 You know what I mean? I got everything. It's survival. You know what I mean? Yeah. Almost got down here. Like 90, 90% of our people, bro, are just angry at their life. They're not happy with themselves.
Starting point is 01:02:26 They need validation. It's a lot of things that, like, if another man doing well, they look at it like, why ain't that me? Why ain't that me? What he do? Why he's so special? I ain't going to say that's true because you don't think so? I don't think that percentage is crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You think 90s? That's a lot of high, but I think 9. That's damn near 100. Yeah, it's 90 hot. That's true cold. What would you give it? Nah, like 40. I like look at my men's like Behan.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I knew Behan for a year. I knew DJ for years. And like to see him like have a following people like liking man. It's like, like people come to me and be like, be he and carry y'all show. And niggas think I'm like, they want a reaction from me. And I'm like, good. They're trying to pin me out of you.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Bro, what else I want to be here to do? Y'all want to sing? It couldn't wait for you to say, yeah. How many people, how many people try to do that, though? I mean, a bunch of people do that. Yeah. I ain't a lot. Thousands of people say that to me.
Starting point is 01:03:32 But my mindset is so. different because it's like, I want the group to win. I want everybody to win. Like, when you drop out, like, I want you to win every time. I don't want, like, win. Like, when we talk about NBA players, and they'd be like, oh, he, like, you know, people, other, other shows, they'd be like, he got overpaid. We like, nah, break the bank.
Starting point is 01:03:53 You sad, but, hey. We don't get a fuck. Get $800 million. Because your life don't matter to us and we don't really give a fuck, bro. Like, what is your life? Your life not going to change. I get it. No, I think in the music, in the music business and in acting world, bro,
Starting point is 01:04:11 it's so crab in the barrel that, and there's not a lot of jobs for African-Americans. That's a problem that no one really champions anybody. I think it's more like, why did I, why did he get that? Why did I, instead of me, it's, that's because I feel like, but they live. And we just came off a strike too. Yeah, but I live, y'all live, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Like, basketball players is kind of like.
Starting point is 01:04:34 like you get paid for like literally your production and what you do. So Jeff average 30 or whatever, he's getting like when bro, he'd be, I know he watched a show, but he'd be like, shit, all I need is 14 and 7. Yeah, big fat. I'm getting this money. With y'all, it's not like that for real. And I'm not saying, hey, this cool, but I was like, damn, bro, Timmy record and took off. Big fact.
Starting point is 01:04:57 How his shit take off and my shit, they probably feel like my shit better than he is. Yeah. I'm not justifying it, but I'm saying it's looked that different. For my angle, I was like... Or even a role. Big fact. Even a movie role. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I look better than this... I look better. I got an APEC. That thing only got a six-patch. Respect. Like, it is different. Like me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But I'm saying for me, I would rather him fuck with me. So if I'm like, bro got a role or bro music is popping, I'm gonna post it. And he might be like, damn, he's fucking with my music. Damn, let me do. Let me do it. It's all with him. Like, damn, bro, really rock on my shit. For sure.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I'm gonna fuck with him. That's how I look. That's different, bro. That's why you're successful, bro. Yeah, that is different. You know what I mean? Like, most people don't do that, bro. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I understand it from, like, both. Not saying I understand the head. I'm saying, like, because people, like, see you thriving. And it's probably a motherfucker that's been thirsty to get Walee on a record. Big facts. How this thing is? How he gets Wally on the song? This nigga in power.
Starting point is 01:05:54 He don't even do music for real. I ain't know. All of that. Yeah, all of that. Yeah, all of that. All of that. All of that. I'm already doing.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I'm already doing. It's like your... It's different, bro. It's different, it's different. It's different. It's different, it's different. Yeah. King.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That's what I'm saying. I will be... I'm, my mind might be... I'm sad then. Because my mind fucked up. I would be like, then we got Walee on a record. That shit hard, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And you're like, if you fuck with it. Yeah. You're not insecure, bro. All right, cool. Most... Sorry to cut you're all, most artists, actors,
Starting point is 01:06:28 most creatives are insecure human beings. beings, bro. You know what I'm saying? I believe that. That's a real fact. 100%. And sometimes they can use the insecurity to thrive or use the insecurities to just hate.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And most don't know how to support because they're not comfortable with themselves. You know what I'm saying? And so, like, for me, I'm the same way. I'm like, yo, go crazy because what you do ain't going to affect me. That was meant for you. Again, a lot of people don't have, again, this is me. I'm spiritual, bro. I got God.
Starting point is 01:07:02 What's meant for me is going to be for mine. Like, doing y'all, like, it was a, shout out to Mike, bro. Like, doing y'all show, we've been talking about this for a year and a half. Yeah, time and the timing, the timing didn't make sense, but it makes sense now. Yeah. You know, who knows what's going to come from it? You know what I'm saying? So, like, again, it's just being confident within self and most people aren't confident within themselves.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Is it hard getting features? Or do you even seek them like that? That's a good question It's not hard getting features But it's more so I'm in a situation mentally Where I just want to just Show that I could do it myself
Starting point is 01:07:40 I'm personally Because you doing the two-dish shit It's crazy Thank you We ain't I'm gonna say I haven't paid a decision to that Since damn there Nelly That's a good
Starting point is 01:07:50 When Nelly did a double-side of shit And so I said damn Roe damn near tapped in Doing double-sided You really like Yeah it was the first time Giving both of your audiences You know what they want
Starting point is 01:07:59 It was the first time having an R&B, I had nine songs, R&B, nine songs, Afrobeast. No one else has ever done that, you know what I mean? So for me, it was just like, just show my African-American side and my Nigerian side, you know. And so it just felt right, you know. Is there a different process when you make those different types of music? I mean, I know it's kind of similar, but is there a difference when you make an R&B record more than an Afrobeast record to an extent?
Starting point is 01:08:23 No. Okay. It's just, it just feels whatever the beat leads to. I'm really. I mean, like I just, I just, I just rock, bro. whatever feels right again it the same thing with acting they'll be like yo the character's supposed to be this and i'll just literally just give what i feel and usually it works you know like dray right for example i go back to dray because it is what it is like dray would be season two i didn't have
Starting point is 01:08:48 that many lines it was all about eye contact so basically before i got dray i studied alpuccino Robert De Niro Ed Norton, Brad Pitt Leonardo DiCaprio, Denzel I studied what they did with their eyes like what they literally how they look what they made what made them go this way
Starting point is 01:09:09 what made them just angry what I studied what they did because I didn't have that many lines so I was like how can I impact this role with no lines to make people be like he's up to something
Starting point is 01:09:22 oh okay you get what I'm saying and so that's what I did all season two until they were like okay you know what this is and then this is like 2014 so it was black Twitter
Starting point is 01:09:35 I think Drake gonna take over everything I think da-da-da-da-da it was just from just eye contact scheming and I created that and gave me life on the show so it was one of those things where it's like just create something out of nothing that's funny as you said Ed Norton because as an early
Starting point is 01:09:50 Marvel nigga he used to make a lot of non-verbal contacts with people used to be crazy and so you just say that makes a lot of sense you know what I'm saying Yeah, bro, I didn't take acting classes, so I had to learn from watching what I saw and just feel like, okay, this might work. I just trust my discernment. Mm, yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Nah, bro, you, I got a whole new respect. I fucking shit, bro, but now, like... Oh, that's late. Nah, bro, you knowing how you came up in this shit? Yeah, bro. Nah, bro, I was all right room for it, but now it's extremely hot. Well, get out here, I want to ask, what's that feeling like for your parents? Obviously, disciplined household wanted you to be great.
Starting point is 01:10:23 What's like when they first see you on TV or they first hear your song on the radio? Oh, my mom was like, oh, Rodney me, why are you, why are you stroking this girl like that? Why are you just beating, beating sex like that, eh? Nah, it's a night of yours, mama.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. And then she got that first check like, uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Yes, keep beating me. Keep beating me. Let me. Left that right.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Let that right. Think of that's crazy. Listen, she had my boy out two and four. Mom. That's all the business. You know what? Yeah, bro. Like, you know, it was, it was tough at first because Nigerian parents.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Why all you all, y'all talk like that? At first, it was like, what are you doing, bro? But then it became like, okay, yeah, this is good. Yeah, just keep doing what you're doing. But, yeah, it was, it was tougher at first, but they're happy now. Look, can I ask you, you got the Afro-B album, you got the R&B album? Like, what's more of your vibe? I know, I know you have, I mean, well, you're Nigerian.
Starting point is 01:11:26 But whatever, like, what's more of your vibe? What feels great to you? Bro, I just, bro, honestly, man, whatever beat I hear and moves my soul, bro. Yeah. Genuinely. Like, I can't give you like a, this is, it's genuinely. If you play something now, I'm a melody guy.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Oh, okay. So everything that I've done, like, from in my bed to love rhythm to all the records I've done, it's all melodies that I just come up with, you know what I mean? And it's just, it just flow. It's like, again, it's the same thing. It's like, what made you spin move when the double team came? He's a Hooper, for real. For real, like, what made you do that?
Starting point is 01:12:05 I love a person who, like, based their life off basketball, because that's what I based my life off of us. Same, bro. So, like, I'll fuck with that. Like, yo, I had the crossover because they would say. Yeah, like, and you're an ill niggie if you spin out of a double team. You call. He's a gun.
Starting point is 01:12:23 He's a gun. Yeah. He said he was passed first, but sitting out of the double team. Yeah. Now, but for real, like, what made you do that? You can't explain it. It's just what calls for it, you know what I mean? Now, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I'll ask you a question. On the music side and the extra side. Anything. What was somebody or some people you would like to work with? On the music side and acting side? Yeah, either one. Music side, like in any era. Yeah, go crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Bob Marley, bro. Oh, okay. See the Bob's? Yeah, Bob Marley. I feel like if me and Bob linked up, it would be the most timeless music. Acting-wise, now, I'll go now acting-wise. Shout out to my brother Damson. Okay, killing shit.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I think me and him would do something crazy. You know what I mean? I think that I'd be crazy. Oh, man, I'm mad that the times is crazy because at some point, they should have had you on Snowfall. Yeah. We were filming power at the same time. No, that's why I hate the parallel. That would have worked.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It was like a battle. It was a battle. Okay, so question. Like, unbiased, right? Bro. Huh? Ah, shut up. No, for real.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I was, I love, I love Snowfall over the original power? No, I fucked with Snowfall. Really? I felt like I knew Snowfall story. I felt like I knew it already. But I knew it. I feel like, man, listen. It was a biopic.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Like, power, I didn't know where the shit was going. Fair enough. I didn't never know. It's so far. But the fact that James St. Patrick gave us lifelong quotes, he said, Tasha, I just lost a love of my life. There's nothing that could top that show. He told his wife that he just lost a love in his life. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Franklin could. And I felt like I felt like I knew. Only real, you know what I'm saying? I understand a game go, bro. That's my nephew. You finally made to work. His latest school. Freaky mouth.
Starting point is 01:14:23 We already have been. We want to wrap the show of the camera shit. We don't need no picture. That's why I meant you. I love him to death. But where are you there? Oh, I'm fine. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Where, dick? Oh, you're going to follow you. All respect. Oh, my. Oh, he takes a pretty. You wanted that. Oh, my. Oh, my.
Starting point is 01:14:49 You know, a little cupcake strawberry. You were a little cupcake strawberry. You were a guy. Yeah, we're going to be in the bag to him today? Ah, man. That's the head's all. We don't know what that means, but it's wild. Now, while you're here, I want to ask you,
Starting point is 01:15:02 we've been having to debate, who's been, number one on the freaky lad has been the photographers of first, but now the personal trainers, then they're creeped in. The party promoters, they had it on lock for a second. But between the photographers and the fitness trainers, we want to see which one right now. And the OG, you're here, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Y'all was number one, respect. At those top of them, the party leaders? You're holding it down. Y'all was holding it down. Photographers. Or the trainers. Trainers, they're good,
Starting point is 01:15:31 wow. They're like arched it, arch it right there. Archit right there. One and two. One and two. That's a thing is crazy. With your music playing in the background?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Listen to the music and arch it. There's a meeting in my brain. She's doing a push-up. Why does she got to arch her back, nigger? Spread your legs, toes up. Yeah, y'all, I love him, bro. No, man.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Man, listen, we have too much for all. We have to do this again. We appreciate you sliding on. No, thank you, Joe. Thank you. We appreciate, man, tapping in with us early, bro. It means a lot for real. It does not go unnoticed.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Before we got out here, be here next week, baby. But this week, when this drop, when you're home town, baby, Houston, Texas. Bro, you know you're playing the drums, nah. Yeah. You play the drums, bro. You play the drums, bro. Mike, please.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Freaky Mike, lock it in. Please, bro. I promise you, I'm crazy. My dog. I appreciate you, bro. No bullshit. I don't even fuck with a lot of people
Starting point is 01:16:29 that be coming on here. But genuinely, bro. You want on my guys, for real. And I'm saying that on the live pie right now. No edits. No, no edits. No, thank you, bro.
Starting point is 01:16:41 He's funny. He's that ass. He know how I'd be feeling these niggies is weird. I just do it. No, bro. No, bro. No, bro. You're a real genuine person, bro.
Starting point is 01:16:48 No, it is. Thank you for blessing our pod, though. That's that thing, bro. He's like, he won't have fun of this guest when we were at. No, that's a thousand percent. Now, again, shout out. All four cameras looking at me, man.
Starting point is 01:17:00 This is one of the best pod. This is one of the best conversations I've had, bro. God bless y'all. Keep doing what y'all do. I've been a fan, bro. I don't like a lot of things. I love this show. And it's amazing to be.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Blessing, bro. So keep going, keep riding. Bodge, bro. Mike, though. Respect. Mike. Yeah. So with that being
Starting point is 01:17:21 said, man, October, we got, hey, the Houston is lit. That's last year.
Starting point is 01:17:26 We got B hit on the drum. We got Toby. We got Vern. We got Byrne Maxwell. And then we got Bunbee.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Oh, baby. Trill Burger's Blacklow up too. House of Bulls, South of course. Nick, practice.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Get your tickets. Baby, we're going up. We can't wait to the Houston show. It's going to be amazing. Oh, my guitar,
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