Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Shelvin Mack on playing with Jeff Teague on Hawks, facing LeBron’s Cavs, Kobe scoring 60
Episode Date: November 28, 2024We’re back with Season 3, Episode 11 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Shelvin Mack. The guys discuss Shelvin Mack’s Butler run in the NCAA tournament where they made the n...ational championship in back-to-back seasons, and had the city of Indianapolis on fire. Mack speaks on playing for Brad Stevens, and tells a WILD STORY of having to practice the day after the NCAA Championship game. Mack also talks about being part of Kobe Bryant's 60-point game with the Jazz, and what he remembers from that iconic moment in NBA history. Plus, don't miss Shelvin on his Pro-Am game with John Wall and Demarcus Cousins, hooping with Jeff Teague on the Atlanta Hawks, losing to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers in the playoffs, and becoming good friends with rapper 2 Chainz in Atlanta. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, we back.
Another episode of Club 520 Podcast.
I'm the host.
My name is DJ Wells.
Special guest on the build-up.
Returning guest, if you know, you know.
You know what I'm saying?
Back in our OG 520 days.
We're going to introduce my man's last.
To my far left, my dog, Bishop B.
Hand out the prillies.
How you doing, Nasty?
Cool, Nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Hey, T the prillies. How you doing, Nasty? Cool, Nasty.
Let's get to it, baby.
Hey, T.
It's crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
We started this podcast.
My boy was in the Black Forces, White Laces.
You know what I'm saying?
Now he just taking fines every week, and he got shut up today in the all-whites, man.
He don't care, man.
He don't care no more.
Check that cash, man.
He don't care no more.
I'm going to fuck that chick, man.
Introduce that nigga so we can go, man.
DoorDash.
DoorDash chick came in. That's how he act. That's crazy. Finally. That's a quick return, man. Introduce that nigga so we can go. Door dash. Door dash chick came in.
That's how you act.
That's crazy.
Finally.
That's a quick return.
It wasn't that quick.
Tell my right and my dog, young Nacho, young Tig.
How you doing, man?
I'm chilling, bro.
You know what I mean?
We got a homie in the building.
One of my closest teammates.
One of my favorite teammates.
But I got to say something before we start.
Our buddy had a job messed up in Lexington.
Oh, yeah. I seen little homie. It was
Donovan Mitchell's coach.
Whoever he is.
Don't ever disrespect.
I don't think he watched a lot of basketball.
Jasper Johnson. That's the young kid. He's top
10 in the country. Yeah, and he tried
to disrespect Lexington like that.
And saying, who's Shelvin Mack?
You're gonna find out.
What are you talking about? But he was to find out what he's talking about.
But he was about it though, though, for real.
I ain't going to hold y'all.
He was.
That's crazy.
That was about it, though.
I don't know who flexing
harder today.
Him with the off-whites
or you with the T-Scots?
He's like paper, though.
I'm hooping him.
Man,
that's who we got.
Nigga going to die
if he hooping him.
I guess we are not seeing
you in the Big 3 next week. On my mama. We are not seeing a new victory next week.
On my mama.
Not next week.
Next week.
Cincinnati.
All right, man.
But to my left,
like I said,
returning against family
at the show.
One of the coldest
college basketball players
of all time.
My man.
From the legs going crazy.
Shelvin Mack.
Big dog.
Appreciate you sliding
on us again, homie.
Yes, sir, man.
Appreciate you having me. I love your podcast,
what y'all doing.
Listen to all the stories.
All of them true. A lot of people think
they're not true, but most of them are true.
I lived it, been around it,
seen it all. You've been a part of them stories,
you know what I'm saying? They ain't made it. That's why we got this
episode. The crazy part is, man,
the six degrees of separation with you
in this episode and the whole gang is funny.
Y'all got to talk to him about how
you first met Shell, man.
It's a reason
why, because that's how he met T and
vice versa.
This one right here,
I met him, he had on a black shirt,
some football jeans.
I was flexing.
It sounds about right, Fat Albert.
Fat Albert jeans. I was flexing. It sounds about right, Fat Albert. Fat Albert jeans.
My God, this is 2008.
This is 2008.
You know, my dude, Barry.
Shout out to my dog, Barry.
He was cutting bro hair.
And then, you know,
she just wanted to link up with the black people.
I didn't know he was going to the NBA.
I had him in the trenches getting his hair cut.
Yeah.
He was at the Dice Games, at the Trap. I had him in the trenches getting his hair cut. Yeah. He was at the Dice Games
at the Trap.
I got put in office
plenty of times
everyone thinking
thinking something different
of being on Butler's campus
all the time.
Yeah.
Shout out to Brad Stevens,
man, I love you.
They thought I was trapping.
I had the 26s on the 300.
The funny part about that
is you look like Ice Cube, bro.
On J.D. Promotes. Damn, you in the bullet hole of the 300. My shit was you look like Ice Cube bro on Janky Promotes damn
my shit was way better
than Cube
no Janky
but yeah
I had
you know
I took care of my
dog wives here
I wouldn't have had him
in them type of situations
if I knew he was
going to the league
like
but he was always
good with me
and he a Tremors legend
yeah he had me
in Tremors
was Keyshawn
was it Duke
who
we went to go see you was over at getting to it nah I took you to Waka Flocka yeah and he a Tremors legend. Yeah, he had me in Tremors. Was Keyshawn? Was it Duke? Who?
We went to go see.
You was over at Gantt's.
No, I took you to Waka Flocka.
Yeah.
And Tremors?
You did not want my boy to go to the draft.
Nah, he was trying to get you.
He put you in the draft.
Nah, Shell was in the trenches
of Indianapolis.
But Butler is right in my ghetto.
So, you know,
it was right there.
38th Street.
Yeah.
Man, that was so funny about it
because when we was at Butler, like, it was, like, funny to see people come to the school.
And, you know, the Panthers at Butler don't tell you anything south of 42nd Street.
They just show you that Butler bubble, which is a for real bubble out the way.
If you didn't know, you wouldn't know.
But when my roommate told me he walked to that gas station on 38th and Illinois.
With the McDonald's?
Yes.
Trippin'.
Yeah, he was trying to get it. yes tripping yeah he was trying
to get it
tripping
he was trying
to get put
put to sleep
he was trying
to make that
that his last
that was going
to be his last
McChicken
I don't know
where he was on
ultra frown shit
but it's so funny
like you said
that brother bubble
you safe over there
but outside of that
it get spooky
so y'all linking up
over there was funny
and I was on
campus at the time
and I remember him pulling up
Butler PD knew this nigga
by heart, but with the cars,
man, that was crazy. They really thought you
was trapping out there. And Butler people telling on
me. He said I was giving them liquor and all
kinds of stuff. Like, it was crazy.
I wasn't even 21 yet, for real.
But I was over there partying, you know, make sure my
guy was straight. Shout out to my dog
Emerson Grant. Just saw Ron, Ron, coaching for Atlanta. my guy was straight. Shout out to my dog, Emerson, Grant.
Just saw Ron, Ron, coaching for Atlanta.
Shout out to Ron.
Shout out to Coach Norad.
Yeah, shout out to Gordon.
Oh, my gosh.
My boy, Avery Jukes, too.
That's my dog, too.
Me and Avery Jukes used to, well, I can't speak too much on that, but my dog used to be like Jukes.
Yeah, I know what's going on.
No maddening.
We used to have him going on marinas.
Shout out to my dog, Jukester.
Jukester.
Man, before we talk about the college days, man,
we got to talk about high school.
You know what I'm saying?
You from Lexington.
Went crazy in high school.
All the time we scored at your high school.
He the high school coach.
How would you feel having to play on your team
that scored the most buckets in program history
he a gun
I'm a lay with shit
I know he a gun
I ain't nah man
I'm playing with you
and I only had
eight minutes to get
out of it
I'm seeing Jeff
walking down the sideline
I gotta put this thing up
I'm coming out the game
but no just being
very aggressive
going out there
trying to score
I knew
something I just had to do to get to the next level.
But then playing in the NBA, like with Jeff, other good point guards,
being a backup for the majority of the time,
you got to get it in where you can.
And, you know, I love Jeff, you know, being the starting point guard,
one of my good friends.
He'd tell me every time, shoot that thing.
Facts.
Yeah, so.
Facts.
We got to talk about that. We're going to go back
to the college days, of course, because you're one of the
coldest college players of all time.
How did y'all meet?
Me and Shell?
Yeah. It's because of B.Han.
B.Han used to come to Atlanta
when I played for the Hawks. Shell was still in college.
B.Han would come in like,
my nigga Shell would kill you.
I'm like god who is Shell
he like
Shell and Mack
play for Butler
he's acting like
that coach
he's like
no
he been college
I'm talking about
Coach Gray
you saw that too
I've been going
viral the past few weeks
it was like
uh
that's where
they bust your ass
yeah but you was
trying to tell me
that like
Butler was good
and all this shit
and I'm like
it's better than Wake Forest.
Wow, long shot. Y'all just had played in
Horizon League. They lost to Cleveland. Y'all lost to
a Horizon League team. Cleveland State.
That was our problem.
Finish your story.
It was North Dakota.
North Dakota got in. We ain't taking serious.
Finish your story.
We was like
shout out to North. I fuck with him.
So he talking crazy
We about to
Shel's getting drafted
We having a
Pick up game
It was a lockout year
Pro-am baby
So I see Shelvin McName
On the list
Of the opposite team
We about to play
I marked that
Yeah he's getting killed today
We in Indianapolis
He don't even know
Yeah he don't know He don't know nothing.
But he's marked.
As soon as he get on the court, I go at him full speed.
Dunking.
I'm talking crazy.
Definitely did.
And I'm pointing at B.H.
And like every time, like this.
Shale don't know what's going on.
I'm not talking to him.
I'm not trying to be his friend.
Shale think he in the charity game.
I'm not, yeah.
I'm not a pro-am player.
I do all day right there. But some context for the story. Getting busy with it. I'm not trying to be his friend. She'll be here at the charity game. I'm not, yeah. I'm not a pro-am player.
I do all day right there.
But some context for the story.
Getting busy with it.
This pro-am was like
one of the bigger matchups.
It was Indianapolis.
It was what?
Goodman?
The D.C. pro-am.
So you had John Wall,
DeMarcus Cousins.
They all came to town.
It was an all-Indiana
team put together.
So it was a really big deal.
Yeah.
If you ever see the highlights,
it's crazy as fuck.
I'm sure they clip it up. But for B.H. to line you up like that in that it was a really big deal. Yeah. If you ever see the highlights, it's crazy as fuck. I'm sure they clip it up.
But for B-Han to line you up like that
in that series of a game is crazy.
It's very,
it's a lockout.
I ain't never played in the NBA.
I don't know what's going on.
I hop on the court.
I took a shot like,
boom!
No, everybody was hating on Butler
at that time.
But you,
you cooked me that time.
I was just, it wasn't even you
I got you back though before
when?
I chased you down
you got that block
you got that
I was like bro
it led on to me
it never stopped
until you got on the team
when I got traded to Utah
I gave y'all that work
ooh
in Utah
okay
are you sure
we talking about
when you stumbled
we can pull up the clips
he talking about
when you stumbled
I don't remember that
you gotta pull that up
I don't remember that
no we got somebody
that can pull that up
y'all gonna pull it up
I'm gonna see all that shit
I made you all stumble
and I shimmy and hit the three in the corner it up. I'm gonna see all that shit. I'm gonna see how I stumbled. And I'm shitting me
and hit the three in the corner.
It's crazy.
I don't remember that.
Oh, I didn't.
It's all right.
We'll clip it up.
Okay.
We'll clip it up.
What you had at game, Shiel?
I know, I guess,
when I first got traded
from Atlanta,
I was just going hard.
Same thing.
I'm not sure what I had,
but I know I played well
when I was playing
against my former team.
Oh, no.
I just remember when you were starting. I know there was gonna be a well when I was playing against my former team. I just remember
when you were starting.
I know there was going
to be a drop.
When you were starting
and I came back,
maybe the next year,
because after I killed you,
I went to your house
and beat you in the mat.
Damn!
This boy telling
all kinds of stories.
He get on the mic
and start talking crazy.
I was like,
damn!
That is crazy.
You got to watch behavior. You got to watch behavior.
You got to watch behavior.
No,
my dog,
the first time we played,
y'all,
you did hoop though.
I remember I was hype.
I was like,
damn,
she hooping.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
The second time we played
in Utah
because Bud was mad.
He was like,
you know how he is.
Are you going to play
for real tonight?
Because you're friends
on the team
oh here we go
but
he did that to my
little brother too
all that to say
I'm the reason why
they friends today
he the reason me and
Shel started
hanging out
I brought him together
definitely did
y'all welcome man
we had a lot of
great time
a lot of Sprite
dirty
dirty Sprite
not no
not no
Sprite it was just it was just tequila and Sprite. Dirty Sprite. No, no, no.
It was just tequila and Sprite.
We used to talk over the game and stuff.
For sure, man.
Team Dennis was lit.
Lit.
Team Dennis was lit, for sure.
Y'all the hell of a team.
But before we get to the NBA draft process,
we got to talk about what you did in college, bro.
Like I said, one of the most underrated college players of all time.
I was on campus when y'all went to two back-to-back national championship games,
and you was a very big part of that, bro.
That's one of the best runs in college basketball history.
For sure.
Which run was crazier, the first one or the second one?
To me, I would say the second one. The first one, we was actually really, really good
with Gordon on the team.
I think we won like 20 games in a row.
The second one,
snuck in like an AC,
just thugged it out,
you know how to win,
close games.
John, you're Matt Howard.
And we won every game,
the second one,
by like last second play.
Remember the foul I had against Pittsburgh at half court?
It was like one of the worst fouls
in NCAA history.
Facts, I'll tell you that.
Bull.
Boy, if it was DraftKings back then, boy, you was selling.
He was supposed to be cut off at the double.
That was rough.
Fouling him.
So, we won that game.
Yeah.
Because Matt Howard got fouled.
Then also, VCU.
Mm-hmm.
Not VCU.
Old Dominion played against Bays.
We beat them on the last second shot.
Shot to Kent.
Yeah.
We just kept winning at the end, just squeaking by.
Then we got to the championship.
It was kind of ugly, as you know.
That was tired, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, y'all went up against a really good team, though.
It was a bad game, though. I went to that game.
It was horrible.
It was a long story.
Very ugly game.
Ugly game.
And to be fair,
y'all ran into one of the best runs
in basketball here in history.
Kimba Walker's run through the Big East
to the National Tournament.
That was one of the best runs
you will ever see in basketball.
Yes.
Six games in six days in the Big East
and then this willingness team in a tournament.
It was special.
It was definitely special.
What was the old boy
named White Skin
Shabazz
no no no
the other one
Jeremy Lamb
Jeremy Lamb
wow
yeah
he was special
for sure
that's the reason
why y'all lost
he was cold
she'll run that
butler though
it was really
unbelievable though
bring that little
school
from Indianapolis
to have them
nation wow but the the most fun was like playing her at um though bring that little school from Indianapolis to have them nation
wow
but the
most fun was like
playing her
at Lucas Oil
for the championship
that was crazy
that
I was there
that Duke game
was one of the
craziest games ever
I sat next to all
Duke fans
and they didn't say
a fucking word
until that shot
missed off the bank
off the rim bro
that was a really good game. And I still
hate Kyle Singer to this day because of that game.
Kyle Singer has never played. I mean, Kyle Singer was cold.
Don't get it fucked up. Obviously made it to the league.
But that was the best game I've ever seen him play in his life.
He hit every elbow jump shot that game, bro.
Yeah, they had a great game plan.
I don't know if you
game planning like that. But they had only
teamed up for Gordon to go right.
He had to go right for that last shot and missed it.
You know, they just did a good job.
But it was a hell of a run, a hell of a game.
One thing I do remember, Coach Stevens had us going to class on Championship Monday at 10 a.m.
Wow.
Out of pocket, Coach.
Yeah, talk to him, man.
Out of pocket.
That's why y'all lost.
You might have to go to class.
Wake Forest? Wouldn't happen.. You might go to class. Wake Forest?
Wouldn't happen.
We didn't go to class on Monday anyway.
We just had Monday.
Chef said Monday.
Chef said Monday.
You ain't going for show, huh?
What?
That went to class?
That's crazy.
It went to class.
Everyone did.
We had a shuttle going back and forth.
And y'all was downtown at a hotel.
Y'all wasn't even on campus.
I remember that.
That's crazy.
I would definitely not went to class.
What?
I'm sure Brad learned from that.
Yeah.
He learned from that.
Did y'all do anything the next year?
We was in, what's the name?
We was in Houston.
I mean, did y'all have like study hall and stuff?
Nah, at Butler, nah.
I learned.
Nah, but I was hoping
I ain't taking study hall.
I never had study hall.
We recruited the right people.
You don't have to do all that stuff.
Take care of your business.
Y'all didn't have study hall at Butler?
Nah.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't go to school for real.
Nah, we did our work, man.
Nah, he's saying
they didn't have to
have study hall.
Why you have study hall?
Because...
I had 3.2 in college.
I still have study hall.
You had to get enough hours.
That's crazy.
You had to have like eight hours a week.
Like mandatory.
You don't care if you had straight A's or not.
I didn't know that.
You finished your degree?
Boy, now I went to the NBA.
Those niggas say, now you in my business.
I just finished mine up.
That's why I was asked.
It took me 10 years
to do it,
but I got it done.
Let's see,
Butler,
let's try to go back for free.
MBPA.
Oh,
y'all should have
did that route too.
Because Butler charged y'all.
Yeah.
That's crazy, right?
What?
That's what Wake Forest do.
Butler owe you
reparations.
I mean,
Wake don't owe him nothing.
Brother owe you a lot of chicken.
They owe you reparations.
I was a student there, and I remember tuition going up 10 grand each year
that we went to a national championship.
That's about right.
I should have did the NBA.
I can still do that route, but the way this podcast set up in school,
I don't really know, man.
It add up really,
I don't know.
Yeah, they ain't
a bullet out of pocket, bro.
Y'all brought a lot
to that program, bro.
All of y'all.
Nah, for real, though.
You know what I mean?
Y'all should have got
honorary degrees.
But Grant,
the new AD,
Grant Line Decker
came in and helped me out.
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That is crazy though. They make you go pay to go back
to school. My first summer, they told me to pay
I wait for it. It was $17,000. I said Yeah, I go pay to go back to school. My first summer, they told me to pay away for it. It was $17,000.
I said,
yeah,
I'm just not going back to school.
I tried to transfer to IUPUI.
Wait,
wait,
wait,
wait.
I swear to God,
I tried to transfer to IUPUI.
They probably treated him
like Everest College, bro.
That was like,
some of my credits
wouldn't transfer there. They was like, you're going to be a freshman. I'm like, damn. That was like some of my critics wouldn't transfer to here.
They was like, you're going to be a freshman.
I'm like, damn.
What class was I taking?
What class was I taking?
That's crazy.
But obviously, man, your college career was insane.
Yeah.
You cleared for the drive.
How was that process?
I know you probably had to do a lot of workouts.
How was that?
Yeah.
Mine was completely different than Jeff.
Jeff going lottery. going lottery uh go lottery
i had to work out damn near it's better than me i had i had a workout for like 20 teams and my
class was like loaded i would say hello um who was your class kairi clay kawai jimmy bulla Klay Kawhi Jimmy Butler Norris
Kimba
Kimba
Cardiac
yeah it was
the Morris twins
it was
it was stacked
that was legit
Isaiah Thomas
he was the last
so like
we all just had
a beller out
throughout the
no on the combo
especially coming from Butler
no we went to
Nassau Championship,
but we didn't play
a lot of projections.
We played a certain style
so people couldn't
really see how it was.
And no,
everybody was like,
it was fat, too.
Better go in
and show my body, y'all.
Oh, that's crazy.
Pause.
That sound like a slave.
That's a Diddy workout.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
It's like a slave trade, bro.
Come on, bro.
Nah, it's just,
you know,
he had the baggy clothes
and all that.
For sure, for sure.
I mean,
we wasn't Nike elite
apart from how
Wake Forest was.
That stuff was a little baggy,
so.
Y'all was better
at Nike school than us,
for sure.
I mean,
we was a test Nike school,
so I apologize.
Y'all remember
I got them
bullet jerseys
to ring my neck
and be down here
like this.
Yeah.
It was nasty.
That's crazy.
Y'all didn't,
Mike Green wore them jerseys.
That's his name, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, y'all had the same jersey.
I remember, yeah.
I remember, yeah.
So.
But you get drafted by D.C.
and you was at D.C.
at a really good time.
I mean,
so you had that.
Oh, calm down.
Calm down.
What?
Good time for D.C.
It was a good time for D.C. to have the rebuild mode
get into it.
It was more than a rebuild mode.
First year,
lockout year,
started off 0-18.
Yeah. Rough.
So,
I don't know what to say.
It wasn't a good time
you should tell people
how the lockout worked though
like as a young guy
that was getting drafted
you got no money
and you get drafted
to the NBA
and now you gotta figure it out
for what
three, four months
like four or five months
I was still here in Indy
working out
trying to get my degree
then got thrown at
Hibachi with him
in the program
in the league.
But it was real tough.
You got to stay ready.
You never know
what's going to happen.
And,
you know,
you just got to be up
and ready to move
in a second.
But when I got there,
the team was kind of,
wasn't the best team
ever put together.
I can say that.
And I just kind of
had to figure out
and fly out some great vets
to help me together because
the team, I'm telling you, the team was like, wow.
Started off
0-18 and then we was playing Philly
because the lockout was very close.
We was playing Philly like every other week.
Three times when they had Lou,
L and Drew, Dre.
It was just, it wasn't a good matchup for us.
Yeah.
You had some good nights in D.C., though.
Definitely had some good nights.
You know,
as a rookie,
going in,
I'm pretty sure y'all
haven't heard some stories
especially about that team.
Yeah.
I'll leave it at that.
Who was your vets
on that team?
On that team?
So, I had Roger Mason
and also Rashard Lewis.
Okay.
Rashard, the coach,
Lou.
And Mo Evans.
You played with Mo.
I played with Mo.
Yeah, yeah. So, they, you know, Lou. And Mo Evans. You played with Mo. I played with Mo. Yeah,
yeah.
So they,
you know,
took me on if they wing
and let me understand
this ain't how the NBA works.
continue to work,
be a good pro.
Crazy thing,
all of them second round picks too.
Like Rashad,
I'm going to say Mace was
and just grinding.
So,
it was there to help me out a lot.
For sure.
Now,
obviously,
Did you like that team? What, that Washington team? Yeah, it was put together? No, y'all definitely out a lot. For sure. Now, obviously Did you like that team?
What, that Washington team? Yeah, it was put together?
Nah, y'all definitely needed a lot of work,
you know what I'm saying? But it was just a crazy ass team. I just
wanted you to bring it up because I remember y'all had a crazy streak,
man. That's a crazy way to get into the NBA.
Yeah, it was
I went 18, flip
Sondra was the coach, he got fired.
A lot of young guys
trying to figure it out.
Now you go from
the first bench to Washington.
What's the next team
you went to right after that?
I went to the main Red Claws.
Had to go back to the G League
drawing board,
work it out.
Killed there, though.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
I was putting up
some good numbers,
playing in Doc Rivers' system.
That's when he was in Boston.
So I was basically putting up the same numbers like Rondo. System. That's when he was in Boston. So I was basically
putting up the same
numbers like Rondo.
Rondo was like
20, 15 and 18.
I was more of a
scorer, so I was
getting like 30,
10 and 12.
That meant a lot.
I actually did
two 10 days
with Philly.
Then I ended up
going to Atlanta
nicking up with
this guy.
Yes, sir.
We have for the
next three, four
years, I would say.
Yeah.
I remember the first day you came.
I was like, okay.
Like, I don't fuck with him.
Like, you know what I mean?
In my head, like, oh, he coming to the scene.
He still on it.
Like, he about to play?
He ain't about to play.
Like, that's what my mind said was.
Then when I got to knowing him, it was like,
I mean, he cool as hell.
And I wanted to do everything I could to, like, help him. I wanted to knowing him, it was like, he cool as hell. And I wanted to do everything I could to help him.
I wanted to see him kill.
And we had like a group hate.
You got something to add?
Nah, nah, nah.
We just bonded over some things.
So it was like, cool.
It was me, you, and a lot of other people.
It felt the same way.
Yeah, we just bonded.
He said group hate. Yeah, we had a group hate. So it was like, you, and a lot of other people. It felt the same way. Yeah, we just bonded. He said, go for it.
Yeah, we had a group hate, so it was like, all right.
Hold on, was Shell on the Little Giants run?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Shell was the, what'd you call it?
The Little Giants run.
That's right.
That's right.
That's the one T-Bone run in the league.
Is that what you called it?
We won 20 games in a row.
Oh, I was on that team.
Yeah, okay.
That was fun. We had a lot of fun. Too much fun. I remember when Shell, I was on that team. Yeah, okay. That was fun.
We had a lot of fun.
Too much fun.
I remember when Shell,
I was like,
Shell about to get paid.
We played in the playoffs
against the Pacers
and I didn't get to sit back
in the game
because Shell and Mike
was hooping.
I remember that.
I was like,
damn, they killing.
We went back home
for game six
and I smoked it.
My bad, bro. I let you down, bro. Y'all won game five for us. I went and I smoked it. My bad, bro.
I let you down, bro.
Y'all won game five for us.
I went home and smoked it.
That was the 8-1 matchup.
We were supposed to win that.
Yeah, we were supposed to win that.
I smoked that one.
Hey.
I did y'all job, bro.
You and Mike was clowning that game.
Yeah, but that team
was so special just because
everyone, like,
got along off the court.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, we had the real ones
in the front playing Boo Ray. We had the real ones in the front playing Boo Ray.
We had the other ones
in the back playing
Uno.
For sure.
Where was you at, Jeff?
I was playing Uno.
Ah.
I was playing Uno.
I'm browing the Uno cards.
Browing the Uno cards.
Well, now there's a great team
that's hanging out with everybody.
You went to the Atlanta guy.
I mean, you went to Atlanta
and got settled, for real.
Got you a crib and everything.
I knew you was...
Once you bought that crib,
I'm like, yeah,
he like, he love Atlanta. He ain't going nowhere. you bought that crib I'm like yeah he like he love Atlanta
he ain't going nowhere
he like then
I'm still there to this day
tapped in with the city
now I get a lot of love there
like
it's a special place
in my heart
yeah
sure
mine's too
for different reasons
nah
I mean
I grew up there
I went from a little kid
to a man
in Atlanta
so that's all it got a special place for me I met some I grew up there. I went from a little kid to a man in Atlanta.
So that's all.
It got a special place for me.
I met some long-lasting friendships there.
Shea, do you think that team could have won the championship if LeBron wasn't in the East?
Hell yeah.
Yeah, if LeBron wasn't playing, yeah.
Y'all could have won the championship.
Yeah.
We beat everybody else.
Who were y'all facing in the finals?
Golden State.
Nah, they wouldn't like that yet.
They wouldn't like that yet.
They wouldn't,
they wouldn't like that.
They wouldn't like that yet.
They wouldn't.
Wasn't it Golden State?
Yeah,
they wasn't them yet.
That's the first year
they won it.
Y'all beating that team?
Fuck no.
That wasn't,
that wasn't,
they wasn't them yet.
They was still like.
Brian didn't win it
the year they beat us though,
didn't he?
Nah,
they lost at Golden State.
Remember, everybody was hurt.
LeBron, Kyrie hurt his knee.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, so what make you
think y'all was going in?
What did he just say?
Everybody was hurt.
It wasn't a full team.
They're full roster.
I know, but that's
LeBron and them,
not y'all.
Like, what?
You ain't like
our four all-stars?
All right, let's mash it up.
Let's have fun.
You ain't like
our four all-stars?
Let's have fun.
That's what we're here for.
They just wasn't them.
They wasn't them yet.
Jeff,
definitely supposed
to be an all-star.
Al,
for sure,
supposed to be an all-star.
PM,
for sure.
Now,
who else?
Who are you slighting?
Now,
Freaky Cal.
Cool.
I ain't mad at it.
You went on the run.
You helped him. Jeff, I say you the real MVP of the team. I didn't mad at it. You went on the run. You helped him.
Jeff say you the real
MVP of the team.
I didn't play in the NBA.
Take your 26
All-Star jersey.
Run with it, bro.
I get it.
But when we get to the finals,
4-1, bro.
That's nasty work right there.
4-1, bro.
Sean Livingston, Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala,
Stephen Curry.
Dre won the 18th, was he?
Yeah.
He was on it.
Yeah, Dre.
Draymond Green.
It's Christmas, yeah.
But, see, we played them.
We went one.
It was even.
We beat them in Atlanta.
They beat us in Gose.
Fair enough, bro.
Y'all beat a lot of teams.
You got a great memory, man.
Y'all won 61 games
he definitely had like 35 but we beat him y'all had a y'all had a good team bro y'all y'all really
did bro i just don't know we just matched up because we switched one through five. Do you think we would
get to the finals
if LeBron wasn't playing?
Oh, I mean, look,
that run was magical, bro.
That Jeremy Lin run
was magical.
I was getting there
for sure.
The thing about LeBron,
we just didn't have
nobody to match up
with LeBron.
No facts.
So Golden State,
this was before
they found
all their superpowers.
Like, only...
They got there, they did it as a... Yeah, only Steph. Only Steph found all their superpowers. They got there, they did it as
an all. We can do this.
And then it took off to a whole nother level.
Steph had his superpowers. Clay was coming
into this. Everybody else was still
they wasn't all the way there yet.
We matched up
cool with them because we could switch one through five
with them. We couldn't switch with Bron.
I can't switch on Bron, man.
It's fucking Christmas.
I just think Sean Lipson would have been the X Factor, with them. We couldn't switch with Bron. Like, I can't switch on Bron, man. It's fucking Christmas. Yeah.
I just think Sean Lipson
would have been the X Factor, bro.
We smooth.
We had shit.
We straight.
You could have posted
that big check.
I love shit.
But Sean Lipson 6'7".
We shooting right over.
Yeah, bro.
We living with the mid-range.
He gonna knock them in, too.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
We shooting threes, man.
We started that three-point shit.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit. The five-man shooting threes. That that Three point shit Oh man Oh shit
The five man shooting threes
That was us
That was out
On the pocket
When he held that thing
Like that
Elman Perro
Started that three point
Shooting
Green bro
Shout out to the
Ellen Hawks bros
At 14
Shout out to my guys
Man
Alright man
Give us some love
That was uh
That was actually
A really fun time
Cause also music Was just popping crazy at that time.
That's what I wanted to ask y'all.
I mean, that run was crazy, but at the same time when y'all was in Atlanta, the new wave
of Atlanta artists is going crazy.
You got Future reaching his pinnacle.
You got Migos coming out.
Y'all got to see them early on.
How was that?
Because I imagine, we already know how Atlanta went.
Off the court was probably way better than on the court at that
time period because they had bankroll fresh. Everybody was
getting their run at that time.
She'll went really outside. I was outside.
Yeah, I'm sure you were.
I'm on 10 days
and not guaranteed.
He wasn't outside.
I'm like this.
I was outside.
Crazy thing is I'm real good friends was outside crazy thing is
I'm real good friends
with 2 Chainz
with KY
my dude does his
engineering
so the first day
Bud got the job
me and Chainz
in the private
facility in the back
working out
Bud come in
he don't know anything
about like the hip hop
scene music
so I go to
Chainz sit down
I was like
I'm still on my
10 day not guaranteed
time
I was like
hey man you gotta do this cut all these people and like it's like my home he think it's like, like I'm still on my 10 day not guaranteed term. It's like, hey man, you got to do this.
Cut all these people up.
And like,
it's like my home.
He think it's like my homeboy
telling this.
It's like,
who the hell is this?
I'm like,
you about to be out of here.
Like,
who's this telling me all of this?
So I had a good chance.
Hey bro,
you got,
you got shit.
Like,
he don't know who you are.
Hey,
don't mess my stuff up.
I know you're on the
College Park Skyhawks. I ain't trying to go there right now, shit. Like, he don't know who you are. Don't mess my stuff up. I know you're on the College Park Skyhawks.
I ain't trying to go there right now, man.
Chase, I'm going to fuck up the play.
I'm going to take my boy out.
True.
And I'm just, it's funny because I can imagine BuzzFeed's like not giving an entire fuck about it.
Oh, you got it all.
He probably has a marker right here and shit.
He over there telling them to cut people on
rookie deal on the 10.
I wish I could see his face, though.
Imagine coming in like, you don't know who this dude is.
No, we just walk in
and we just hanging out. It's like, is Shelly's homeboy
serious?
And Bud, funny
as hell.
He probably had that.
Who the fuck? he probably had that. What the fuck?
He definitely had that.
He was like, what the fuck?
Who the fuck Shelton think he is?
Get this guy the fuck out of here.
But Shelton was at birthday bash and shit.
He wasn't all the way inside.
When I say inside, I mean like Shelton,
when he got established in Atlanta,
you know, he had a family.
Yeah.
So he wouldn't go out with us.
Like,
I'd be like,
sure,
you coming out?
He'd be like,
nah,
player.
I'd be,
I'd be,
be going back to the arena.
Every time,
every time I go back
to the arena,
we kind of live
in the same spot,
same area.
We drive.
Where'd you see that?
Where'd you see that?
I look up,
I look up,
I see a red Camaro.
I keep on going. Where the red Camaro at, you see? I look up, I see a red Camaro. I keep on going.
What a red Camaro, actually.
I ain't going to say all that.
You can not lose a baloon.
I don't want that deal.
I had my jersey hanging on to me.
Every time in the cage.
That's a wild boy.
That's a crazy after party.
I just got a chicken
all the way there
I see chicken wings
bro
yeah
you know
sometimes you don't
play a lot
like in the league
you go upstairs
and work out
yeah
so I go up
break him a workout
in
he didn't play
30 minutes
he out
he gone
I'm driving home
at the light
you smell the chicken
wings from the street
bro oh fuck y'all crazy I was just at the light. You can smell the chicken wings from the street, bro.
Oh, fuck.
Y'all crazy, man.
That's funny as hell, man.
That was my spot, though.
Yeah.
Obviously, you know what I'm saying?
Atlanta was very well for you.
Established yourself as a player in this league.
Then you get a chance to go to, you know what I'm saying,
a different situation to get some more minutes.
How was that going to Utah for you career wise?
It was great
I was just having
a relationship with
with Quinn
he was part of the staff
in Atlanta
so he kind of
knew my skill sets
and know what I was
capable of doing
then it's also
just having opportunities
going and just like
play right away
and start
it's been a great team
in Atlanta
you always have a lot
of good players
you know Jeff's a good player didn't watch it didn't show it at the time so it's kind a great team in Atlanta you always have a lot of good players you know Jeff was a good player
didn't watch it yet
Dennis Schroeder at the time
so it's kind of
tough to get minutes
consistently
you know there's got to be
a pro be ready
but I also
want to appreciate Atlanta
but for allowing me to go
could be selfish
you know just have me
sitting there
because you just never know
somebody can get hurt
or any situation
but they allowed me to
to move on and
you know develop my game.
That's fire.
And it's not too, you don't see,
it's not too common to see organizations do right by people.
And when they do, sometimes they may be handpicking
with that, but for them to show you love like that,
to put you in a situation where you can actually play
is fire.
Like you said, that's our first time going back
at each other, you know what I'm saying?
When he got to Utah, that first game.
I was so happy for him, man,
to see him get a chance
to be the starter,
do his thing.
He had a good game
against us.
But I think we probably won, though.
We won?
I can't remember.
It don't matter.
When you kill,
you don't even give a fuck
you might lose.
Sometimes I ain't gonna hold you.
In the regular season,
you be like,
I killed y'all, though.
So he probably had a good game.
I can't remember.
If I get eight,
I'm killing.
Oh,
he at eight?
Oh,
shit.
He going to kill him?
Nah,
it's transition.
I can't start on the first day
of getting there.
We played y'all like right away.
Yeah,
you did.
Oh,
yeah,
you did get traded
and play right away.
Yeah,
you right,
you did.
That was the crazy part.
I was in practice.
I couldn't get no reps
the day before.
You know, Jeff don't like practice.
Jeff's like,
come get me.
I'm like, bro,
they're not letting me in.
Listen, kids,
I love practice.
Listen, Coach T.
Coach T loves practice.
But that was a good way.
Jeff would let me
get out there
and like play.
Yeah.
And like work on my shit.
I'm like, shit, go ahead and kill them. Yeah. Wait, And like work on my shit. I'm like, shit, go ahead and kill them.
Okay, Ivo.
Jeff be like, come get me.
I'm like, bro, they ain't letting me out there.
Damn.
Damn.
It was like, hey, see how I'm cyber.
What you had?
Yeah, I came off the bench.
Who was starting that thing?
Hey, man, quit asking all them questions.
What was the foreigner?
Light skinned buddy Dante
Oh
It might have been Dante
31 minutes
You better play the whole game
Sure
He let me
I got
What was my shooting percentage
He had to be
3 for 16
I definitely
Gave myself a chance
Get the MGA's up I had to I gave myself a chance. Get the MGA's up.
I had to.
I gave myself a chance.
Hopefully my dog had like 10 assists.
Nah, he had Rudy.
Damn.
Should have had Rudy when he was weak too.
Yeah, he had Rudy.
Man.
Hey, what's crazy is while you was in Utah,
you played in one of the most important games
in basketball history, man.
Kobe's final game.
How was that atmosphere building up today?
And how was it to play in that game?
Because everybody in the world wanted y'all to lose that game.
And y'all was still like, I know y'all was right out of playoff implications, but y'all wasn't trying to let Kobe win that game either.
Yeah, it was like we had to wait until like halftime to see if he was going to make the playoffs.
We were trying to win.
A lot of people get it confused.
They're like, we was letting Kobe do all that.
Kobe also shot 50 times.
Not harder to shoot 50 shots in one basketball game.
That's nuts, bro.
If there's anybody I know who would do it.
Who's he on?
Nah, but the atmosphere was crazy.
The president was there.
We'd come in.
You know how you go down the tunnel at the Staples Center.
Everybody out there with AKs, 47.
Damn.
No, Secret Service.
It was amazing.
Kanye, Jay-Z, all these people
sitting like second row.
But if you go back
and watch the tape,
I had zero of that 60.
You didn't get scored on at all?
I got pulled up.
You live and die by that.
That's his first time.
I ain't getting any of that.
He was a part of that shit. No, that's one of my favorite players. Kobe's his first thing. I ain't get any of that. He was a part of that shit.
No, that's one of my favorite players.
Kobe's my favorite player.
Yeah, for sure.
But I didn't get any of that.
You didn't switch on him?
No, but...
Luis!
They're going to pull it up.
But the way they was letting Julius Randle set them screens?
Outrageous.
Had to get Kobe open, bro.
But Kobe Kobe it was
it was this different
like no matter what he did
everybody in the crowd
like oh
who this turn
it's a work game
kind of playing
it was the last
what he ended with
62
on 50 shots
that's a way to go out
boy
I swear
for sure
50 shots.
Yeah.
I don't see nobody else
shooting that many times.
I didn't get in.
And the crazy part.
My last game,
if I didn't touch the floor.
Well, it wasn't about you,
B-Tel.
I see the 50 piece, though.
Y'all understand?
The crazy part,
like pregame,
Lou was on the team.
Lou was like,
he about to shoot 50 times.
I'm like, he ain't about to shoot 50 shots.
Came out there and did it.
Like, every time somebody wide open, just swing it at him, let him go.
And the crazy part, he started off super, super slow.
And then, like, started making, like, eight baskets in a row.
And the whole stadium just rooting for him.
Like, you foul him, like, take the side out of everybody, boom.
Boom.
So, it was a little different.
It had to be an amazing atmosphere, though.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine
playing in a game like that.
I would have loved to have been in that game.
What would you have done?
I would have been trying to go at him.
Yeah.
I would have been trying to guard him.
I would have been extra as hell.
I would have put your name on there, too.
I would have been talking shit.
It wouldn't have worked man
nothing was going to work
he was going to get them points or whatever
but that was special
I would have been Dylan Brooks
that's like I said my favorite player all the time
you said you'd be Dylan Brooks
I would have been Dylan Brooks
I would have been like Kobe's not that good
he shot 50 songs
he said he wanted people to do that though
he didn't want people to you know let him nothing, go crazy like it's a regular game.
He worked for it.
It wasn't nothing easy.
I'll say that.
I'm saying, like, talk shit like Jeff would have been like, come on, sir.
You got the Kobe's from that day?
Hell yeah.
I got them.
And the Mama Days?
Yeah, the Mama Days.
I actually got them.
He was able to sign them for me.
Oh, he signed them?
Yeah.
Damn.
Shit, I don't ask for it.
Damn.
I should have played in them have played him but i didn't
no i got him only thing i got signed from kobe was uh he signed a card yeah so i always did it
i was i wore kobe's all the time whatever we played him i wouldn't wear a shoe but i can't
be on the court looking like that yeah what about you i ain't hooping kobe's to the end
i know you're the adidas all the way i was adidas so i ain ain't hooping Kobe's to the end. I know you was
Adidas all the way.
Yeah, I was Adidas,
so I ain't hooping
Kobe's to the end,
really.
I was hooping
the Jordan 10s.
I was trying to get
signed by Team Jordan.
It didn't work.
Damn.
Joe didn't put in
a call for you?
Joe ain't fuck with me
like that.
He only fuck with me
at the club.
Off the court.
Off the court.
T, you got them hoes.
I go.
Bruce Smith.
Play roll.
That's crazy.
Because you was on
one team, LeBron, too.
I used to wear LeBrons, too.
He wasn't fucking with me.
You going to sign with Rich?
I was like, damn, I can't do it.
It's quiet.
All right, then.
I should have.
Damn. Fuck that up. Shout out to then. Damn. I should have. Damn.
Fuck that up.
Shout out to JR.
Shout out to the guy.
JR.
Ah, yeah.
We love JR.
So, obviously, man,
you know what I'm saying?
Had your time in the league,
transitioned to different things.
What you got going on right now, man?
Right now,
I do college basketball.
CBS Sports Analyst. Yes, I heard. Also, working in the front office with the NBA team, got going on right now man um right now i'm gonna do college basketball uh cbs sports analyst yes
also working in front office with uh with the nba team doing some pro scout and trying to find some
talent um no um hanging out with the family and kids so got a good life blessed life you know
the crazy part is playing multiple teams you know meet a lot of people have a lot of connections and
it's no pin out for me now as I make this transition of being a retired player.
I was going to ask about that.
Even with Jeff, like, you guys always have good rapport with different people.
And people understand the NBA fraternity is different.
Once you're in, you can really be there for life if you got good rapport.
And it's dope to see the network and the stuff of how it works.
But now it's interesting because, like we said, brother, definitely all you reparations.
But the NIL shit going on.
Back-to-back championships, bro.
Yeah, I had dinner with Brad last night.
I told him.
Same time I would not have been at Butler the following year.
Yeah.
Out.
Transfer portal.
Oh, for sure, bro.
Easy on him.
For sure.
That bag would have been retarded.
He would have got a meal or something.
Yeah.
Probably 1.5.
It's definitely different around here.
How was that taken?
I wonder, like, as you're scouting, you know what I'm saying?
You look at the different kids and stuff going on that could potentially be pros.
Does that play a factor in it?
Like, how they handle their NIL at all?
I mean, I don't know if that's not being pocket watching, but just like the mannerisms.
Because that does mean a different aspect of recruiting with people.
For me, not really.
No, at this side,
you're not really
dealing with that.
It's more like
the agent of somebody else.
I got you.
But, you know,
it's a lot of people
who's very good
playing basketball.
So a lot of stuff
like off the court
that stops them
from getting to the next level.
Like Intel,
they might be hanging out
with a B-hand
all the time.
Yeah.
Being the wrong spy
wrong time. Red flag, red flag. Being the wrong spot, wrong time.
Red flag, red flag.
Red flag right there, right there.
Nah, that's my guy.
But look for stuff like that
because once you're able
to get somebody
a lot of money,
a lot of access,
you just don't know
how they're going to act.
Basketball is like a small piece.
There's no more about your character.
And no,
you're going to have to be
a great teammate.
That's the hardest thing.
In the NBA,
everyone averages 20 points at some point in time. You're going to go there and you might have to be a great teammate. That was the hardest thing. You know, NBA, everyone averaged 20 points at some point in time.
You're going to go there, and you might have to be a cheerleader for a few games
and just see how you respond.
Are you going to be mad at the coach or the assistant coach or the ball boy
who has nothing to do with this?
Are you going to take it out on them now?
No, it's not the kind of people that you want to work with on a day-to-day basis.
How do you like commentating, though?
You see yourself doing that for a long time.
I enjoy doing it.
I get to watch a lot of basketball,
stay around the game.
It's a little different doing college instead of pros
because you're not trying to talk bad about anyone's son.
Everyone's trying to work and continue to get better.
I would love to call some games.
See how I sound at the arena.
But the good is keep me all around and stay in touch with everybody.
Cool.
So, man, March Madness is still one of the craziest fucking basketball situations of all time.
Obviously, we do have an experience in that.
Do you think it's different now with the game as far as like marshmallow?
Because we don't even have too many cosplayers that we get excited about anymore.
It's like we skip every so often.
But back in y'all's days, it was every year, every team,
like not every team, but you had marquee teams and matchups every single year.
It's like totally different now.
How do you stay in tech with that?
Do you even get excited for that type of stuff?
I know obviously with you working, you locked in with it,
but is it even the same
atmosphere like being
removed from it?
When you're able
to go to the game,
you're still able to feel it.
Okay.
Because it's like,
say here in Indiana,
like IU Purdue,
no matter who's playing,
you can just go to the game
and kind of feel the energy.
Yeah.
It's hard to keep up
with it though
with the transfer portal.
People just being able
to just go school for school.
So, you know,
sometimes I get lost on it with the transfer portal. People just being able to just go school for school. So, you know, sometimes I get lost on it
with the players transferring.
And then also, you know, the six-year
kind of threw everything off.
That COVID year.
Yeah, so once all of that stuff's settled in,
people can start, you know,
tapping back in with their favorite players.
And hopefully we get some loyalty coming in soon
with all of this.
But I don't see how long,
how much longer NIL stuff can work.
How do you feel about
brother moving to the Big East?
I think it's a great move.
He had some good years.
Yeah.
When Coach LaValle
was coaching
the top 10 in the country.
All that.
Right now,
some downtime.
But,
can't really say it's downtime
when they got
the two national champs
over the past few years.
Back to back,
knowing the conference. It's a tough conference. I think it's one of the best conference. Better over the past few years, back-to-back, knowing the conference.
It's a tough conference.
I think it's one of the best conferences.
Better than the ACC, if you ask me.
Cap.
Ooh.
Cap.
I don't know.
Big East ACC?
I don't know, big dog.
That's tough.
Too heavy.
Who do you like in the ACC?
I'm biased.
I'm going to go ACC.
But if you're going with UConn against the board,
then you definitely got to go UConn.
Consistently, like Marquette,
Villanova.
They've been good.
Creighton.
They've been good.
I don't know about Creighton.
Creighton's been good.
I'm talking about
like 20 win teams.
Oh, no, no.
As a total haul for sure.
Yeah.
They got an overall
better conference.
Yeah, they got a
right now, but
in the tournament,
I fear a couple of
them ACC teams
a little bit more.
I like Duke.
I like Carolina. All right. I like Duke. I like Carolina.
Alright. I like Wake Forest.
You said Wake?
Yeah, I like Florida State.
I like Miami a lot.
Quiet.
Miami good.
They okay, but they
not better than Miami.
Miami was good, because you're talking about
Nigel Peck getting a transfer in.
Yes, sir.
You need that to be at that high level.
Yeah.
NC State.
I'm anxious to see how Duke is going to be this year
with us having all those freshmen coming in and playing.
Oh, I think they're going to smack shit.
They're going to smack shit.
They so?
Cooper Flacco is the one.
He's the one.
If they let him cook the right—
He's the one, bro. Isaiah Evans is the right, he's the one, bro.
Isaiah Evans is pretty good, too.
Yeah.
Oh, no, they got a whip, too.
He ain't a one-man band by any means.
They got a whip.
That's why I didn't understand
why he was talking about them transferring.
It was like,
everybody who transferred was tampered with.
I'm like, that's crazy, bro.
He the best player in college basketball.
Nah.
Cooper?
Yeah.
Nah.
I got to see.
Right now,
even though his people are aging there right now,
he's still better than all of them.
He's the best prospect.
Yeah, he's the best prospect.
Playing college basketball is, like, different.
Like, we see Oscar Sheway 20 and 20 and then go to the next step
and play for the Pacers.
It's kind of hard for him to get out there and contribute
and play at a high level.
But Cooper Flagg's path is different.
Yeah, he's going to be the best path is different. He's definitely different.
That's what I'm saying. It's different,
but also, she weighs
player of the year. I don't think Cooper
is going to get player of the year.
He probably won't get the accolades.
He's going to get the number one pick. Cooper is going to average
nine. Hell no.
Nine points?
You know how it goes.
I say between like nine and 14.
That's a big gap.
But it's not going to be 20.
No, it ain't going to be 20.
It'd be 13, 14.
And he going in there with a whole bunch of other freshmen.
He going in with a whip.
Yeah, they all trying to get paid.
I don't think they're about to be the number two pick.
Are you one?
I know I'm about to be two.
We had this clip.
It's okay.
All right.
Cooper, player of the year.
Duke, national champion.
Think about how old dude was at Carolina.
What's his name?
Babcock?
Babcock, yeah.
Babcock, for sure, was in the dress.
It's three or four other players out.
They not going, bro.
They 24 and up, for sure.
Who ordered him?
Our own boy from Kansas.
Actually, what's his name?
What's his name?
The kid from Notre Dame.
The guard.
Oh, yeah, he nice.
Marcus from Indiana.
Johnson, South Indiana.
Great, great basketball player.
Yeah.
Cole.
Cooper Flag.
I'm cool.
The great white hope is on the way.
Man, I got to ask, man. You know what I'm saying? Off the court, I know how y' hope is on the way man
I gotta ask man
y'all I'm saying
off the court
I know how y'all
went on the court
how was like y'all
kicking it off the court
y'all talk about
them tequila and sprites
man
how y'all get
like that
I think it was more
just like us
loving the game
like we would talk
about basketball
off the court
so we'd be like
man how can we
get better
looking at stats
watching games
like this is all I gotta do me and Shell was barely by the numbers So we'd be like, man, how can we get better looking at stats, watching games?
Like, this is all I got to do.
Me and Shell was barely by the numbers.
I can average 12 points a game right here.
That'll give me $6 million a year.
Like, we was like that.
Like, we was just trying to map the game out, but we enjoyed playing.
So we'd talk about the game.
Then we'd just kick it, bro.
He was just cool.
We'd talk about, we'd still talk about playing Madden and stuff like that. NCAA football
just came out. He never was really
that good at video games, but he always
wanted to play. I'm top of the
country.
He ain't Shell.
I'm in the game.
I'm trying
to tell you.
Also, I think I was forced to tell you also I think
I was forced to go to
team dinner all the time
but it's about
after every
every road game
we go to team dinner
we sitting there for
three or four hours
just sitting there
hanging out talking
no obviously having Hendrick
is a connection
he was able to relate
on a lot of different
different things
do people know
anything about your
your wrestling fetish
yeah everybody know I love wrestling about your wrestling fetish?
Yeah, everybody know I love wrestling.
That's balls.
Fetish is crazy.
Everybody know I love wrestling.
When my man watching
1976 wrestling matches,
what's that?
I guess that's a fetish.
Two motherfuckers
swinging.
That'll turn me on.
Fetish is a wild word.
Yeah, that'll turn me on.
He's a fan of wrestling, bro.
Why he say fetish? If all the whites said fetish, but everybody know I like wrestling.'s a fan of wrestling, bro. If all the whites
that finish,
but everybody that I like wrestling.
See a big show of that
with fucking one piece.
You got him back a bit, bro.
He was quiet, bro.
He was a dead cat.
In 1976, though,
on the iPad,
I'm like, bro,
what you got going on? He's trying, bro. Bro, I just like like, bro, what you guys doing?
I'm trying, bro.
Bro, I just like wrestling, bro.
But you know what?
Something else we relate to?
We cheat.
Whoa.
No.
We cheat.
What you talking about?
Because that's why we was going to the team
this year so long.
We cheat.
Cheat.
I cheat.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try.
I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. Iap. I ain't cheap. I ain't got a white heel, bro. No, we both cheap, bro.
We don't want to spend money.
Say that P, bro.
You ain't from Chicago.
Say that P.
Man, look at him, bro.
He trying to get you caught up or something.
I know.
I got white heels.
He was confused, too.
Nah.
Cheap.
Like, we don't use the money.
We cheap.
Frugal.
There we go.
Frugal friends go Frugal friends
Cause that's how we used to go
To them team dinners
We like
Oh he about to pay for us
To eat again
Yeah we all
Eat free
Yeah what
Tequila on him
Oh shit
Why
Jeff getting all the
1942 he can get
For sure
My bill used to be
1500 or long
Damn
Who was paying
For the team dinner
But
Damn I was racking up I was taking stuff Back to the room 1500 alone. Damn. Who was paying for the steam dinner? Damn.
I was racking up.
I was taking stuff back to the room.
I was like,
like being on the volume tab.
That's how you be doing it?
Yes.
He gets a golf play
everywhere he go.
He get two to go.
Two to go.
I knew there were golfs
when I pay.
With a volume.
That nigga
look at the bill.
He just take his
bags and leave.
Mike be like
Mike left over
in here too.
And he Mike
left over.
Yeah.
He can swipe
that American Express.
Fuck out of here.
What's wrong with him,
man?
They try to get
people jammed up.
No, we definitely cheap,
I would say.
Yeah, we cheap.
We trying to go
to get a section for a thousand.
We like,
who else coming?
That's nasty.
I got 250 on it.
Straight up.
And your old boy,
he be like,
Paul, you good?
Paul be like,
what?
You the make the most money, man.
Yeah, that was in the league.
One hand on the rack.
That's how they was, bro.
They was.
Y'all getting a bottle?
Bottle 300.
I got 25.
Me, him, Damari.
We all break it up, baby.
Break it all up.
We was smart, man.
Trying to be.
That's funny, man.
He's a hoe.
I can't believe that nigga over there
I'll wrap it up
oh man
hey man
it's been real
shells
family at the park
man
we gotta have you back
man
it's always a good time
when you're in the building
man
you know what we need him for
he gotta be our
college
basketball host for the morning show.
Come on, man.
We got a morning show.
We got a morning show coming.
It's on the way, bro.
It's on the way.
We need to call you for the college basketball updates, man.
On the zone.
I'm definitely with that.
Yeah, we need that.
On the zone, yeah.
Come on, man.
Come to 520.
You already game, bro.
You already know.
Yeah, you know.
You feel me?
You got to represent football a little bit more.
Nah, man.
I didn't graduate today, so shout out to the Lou your family. You got to represent football a little bit more. Nah, man. I didn't graduate
from here, so
shout out to the
Louisville.
Hey!
You didn't graduate
from there, either?
Nope.
I didn't graduate
from there.
He's lost flagging.
No, I'm talking
about him.
He claimed the
Louisville.
He got the bird
on him.
Not the bird, man.
No disrespect to
Louisville.
He's lost flagging,
bro.
You a card?
You a Louisville
card?
Yeah, my family all from there. So, yeah, we locked in for sure. You're a card. You're a Louisville card. Yeah, my family
all from there.
So yeah, we locked in for sure.
Deep in the rap.
But look, man,
you're not going to see this face.
Did you graduate from there or what?
I didn't go there, my nigga.
My whole family's from there.
My family's all locked in
with Louisville.
Gotcha, gotcha.
One time for the one time.
Hey, man, you'll see
the show back soon.
We set it on wax.
He's going to be our basketball,
college basketball analyst
for 520 in the morning.
Coming soon.
Lock into that.
But you know what it is?
Be here and tell the people they can buy some merch at.
Shopclub520.com, baby.
Yes, sir.
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