Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Symba tells Jeff Teague that LeBron James CHANGED HIS LIFE + Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 35 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Symba for an interview where he talks about becoming a rapper, playing basketball in high school, Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake rap beef, and how LeBron James of the Los Angeles Lakers changed his life. Plus, Symba ranks Damian Lillard, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, and the best players to come out of Oakland and the Bay area. Jeff also tells Symba a hilarious story of his "welcome to the NBA" moment with Joe Johnson that you won't want to miss! 0:00 - Start 6:00 - Best PG out of Oakland 11:00 - How he started rapping 19:00 - LeBron changed my life 28:00 - Colin Kaepernick 34:00 - Jeff's welcome to the NBA moment 44:00 - Symba's new movie #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bayer has found us in the building with a special guest. He ain't even a guest. I'm out of this family already in the building. I'm a real family of the show. I ain't a friend of the show. I watch every episode, man. I love what Teague did on the court. I fuck with my nigga BN.

You know what I'm saying? My nigga DJ Wells, what y'all doing for the culture is important. I wanted to bring my brothers through because they run the culture out here in the Bay Area. And sometimes in the Bay Area,

a lot of us don't get the platforms we deserve. So I wanted to make sure we highlighting our culture during All-Star Weekend. Y'all allowed us to do that, so we appreciate that. I'm saying it's all culture.

Mitchell and Ness is out. It's all tied in for sure. To my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Henn out the Pearly's. How you doing, Nasty? Cool, and I actually got one of my guys on here, man.

So I'm excited for this one, for sure. Hey, man. We never thought that B. Henn would be one of my favorite back guys on here, man. So I'm excited for this one, for sure. Hey, man. We never thought that Simba and B.H. would be one of my favorite backcourts, man. B.H. my new best friend. Your legendary duo, man. Me and B.H. had a good time last night, man.

I will say, B.H. is very disciplined. He's very disciplined and I'm not. I love it. So he left the church. That's going gonna be a real Nah Luis cut that out But so to my right

My dog Young Nacho Young Teague How you work? Cooling bro Excited Me and B.H. Was talking about this

A minute ago How we used to Send each other the raps The riffs The freestyles And like How this moment Is huge for us bro

We excited Cause we was fans so to have him on the show uh this is gonna be dope now teague i've been a fan of you since wake forest man you gotta remember when i dm'd you i sent you them basketball clips to show you i was a real i really watched your come up nigga like i'm really a fan like i know what it take that's why when gilly was in here yesterday talking that bullshit, I said, Gil, you know how hard it is to score 12 points in the NBA, nigga? You talk about you just going to dog these niggas? Like, it ain't going to go that way.

Not at all. Matter of fact, Gil canceled the game today, didn't he? Yeah, somebody was dodging. You see the flyer. Somebody was dodging. See the flyer. It's posted, baby. Somebody was dodging.

How have you guys experienced been in the Bay this weekend? It's been cool, bro. It's been cool. Been great for me, man. Especially last night. We can't speak too much, but I told the guys,

I said, yeah, every time I enter California period, I'm tapping in with my guys. Yeah. So I appreciate that, love. Shout out to Hennessy for sure. Shout out to Hennessy family.

Them is our people over there for sure. But now the love you showed last night, bro, is for real. No, we appreciate it, man. It's a lot of things that's going on behind the scenes to make sure we keep everybody safe. Keep everybody feeling welcome. Just having y'all here, right? Gilbert Arena is my big brother. Shout out to Gil.

Gilly and Wallo, everybody. Like, we want to make sure when you guys come to California, especially to the Bay Area, y'all are taken care of and y'all feel appreciated because we appreciate what y'all do for us as a coach. Appreciate that. And shout out to the Bay, man, especially like the last couple weeks you've been seeing everybody giving the respect they're supposed to. Supak talked about how he came to the Bay, man. Especially like the last couple weeks, you've been seeing everybody giving the respect they're supposed to.

Supak talked about how he came to the Bay and got his hustle. Master P talked about how he came out here, got his game, and took it back to the N.O. So, you know what I'm saying? Especially for our people, the real culture, black people, the Bay mean a lot, man. I brought one of the most ignorant Bay Area niggas with me. Okay.

Rab, explain to him how we live as a culture out here in the bay area well first of all uh we play us you know i'm saying we play us and we uh we come from that panther cloth you know i'm saying so we come from that panther cloth and a lot of a lot of drug dealers big time drug dealers you know that crack era hit us hard too so like we just full of game so when y'all hear Tupac saying he got that game from here, that's what it's about. It's about the game.

Game. And we on the island. So in the whole United States, it's the only place that probably don't have no gangs. So we don't have no gangs. Not no black gangs. So ain't no Crips,

no Bloods, no GDs, no Vice, none of that. We just straight niggas. No, for sure. For sure. Turf wars, though.

It get tricky everywhere, though. It get tricky. I got a question on that. Big fan of y'all's show, too. For sure. Drake Mott is one of my best friends. Shout out to Drake. And I know y'all over there at The Volume, and I've been watching y'all rise, but one thing I like

about y'all's show, though, is one thing I always tell y'all, I love the way y'all get on there and say what the fuck y'all over there at the volume and I've been watching y'all rise. But one thing I like about y'all show though is one thing I always tell y'all, I love the way y'all get on there and say what the fuck y'all want to say. That shit fired me. I appreciate that. I be like, yeah, this, this is, this, that right there is what this shit supposed to be like. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate what y'all, I got a question.

What did y'all hear before y'all got out here on y'all way to all-star weekend? Like what was the things I was going through y'all here when y'all got off here? On your way to All-Star weekend, like, what was the things I was going through y'all here when y'all got off the plane? Like, this is what we about to see. Shit, we pulled up. Shout out to Henny Arena last year in San Francisco. So we had pulled up. But what we remembered was,

if we get a rental to make sure the car unlocked, or don't put shit in the motherfucking view, because that will be, your liability is going to be used in that claim. Yeah, that's a fact. Somebody put us on game, we pulled up, and we was like, yeah, remember, no rentals. Niggas kept hitting that lock button, walking down the street.

What they fail to tell y'all is y'all caught the tail end of the bipping shit. That was like a trend, right? So y'all caught the tail. That shit didn't like die down. We might be close to a year past that, right? Because what happens is once everybody starts to not leave nothing in the cars,

leaving their windows down, because the broken window was the headache. Then all the bippers was like, shit, we ain't making no money now. So this shit started to go away, in my opinion. We ain't really had a whole lot of that within the last year or so. Y'all said progression, boy. It was We ain't really had a whole lot of that within the last year or so. Oh, okay. Shout out to Progression, boy. It was a little wicked last time we pulled up.

So, respect. Niggas is getting Uber stamped. That's what I'm talking about. The rental car industry only. We in the Uber and get bit. We in the Uber out here. Nigga, y'all got Ubers with no drivers. Y'all got the remote cars out here.

Waymo. Shout out to Waymo. Yeah, don't wipe me down in a Waymo. I can't even get your pill off. Yeah. Can't do nothing about it. Let's see. For sure, now that we got a relationship with you,

now we just getting car service through you now. Oh, you good. You good. We're going to make sure y'all are straight, man. Anytime y'all have a relationship, we're going to make sure you're straight. Facts. Facts. Nah, bro.

We know the world know you as a rapper. I love ball hoop. Like, what was your position in high school? I was a two guard, man. I still hold the point record at my high school. I dropped 47 and three quarters. I was very passionate about basketball, but I got caught cheating on my SAT test.

So I didn't pass clearinghouse rules. That's how I ended up becoming a rapper. I was like, I got to do something else because I didn't talk too much shit to that's how i ended up becoming a rapper i was like i gotta do something else because i didn't talk too much shit to go to the 13th grade you know i'm not going to a jc and go ball at a jc when i didn't told all the girls i was going to duke lying my ass off but rapping worked out for me there's some schools some schools checking you out though like did you tell you i had a lot of offers. I just was a hardhead, bro. I didn't listen.

Yeah. I was very spoiled as a kid. You know, I come from a rich culture, a rich heritage. And I didn't have the work ethic. I always say, if I would have made it to the league, I would have been worse than Teague. I would have been a nigga that would have been in the strip club right after the game.

I know Teague used to go to Magic City right after them Hawks games. No. I would have been there at halftime. Magic City was my spot. My spot was Diamonds of Atlanta. It was right by my crib. Okay, okay, okay. My challenger used to be posted up.

I was legendary in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a question for you. You know what I'm saying? You up on your hoops and stuff. I'm going to ask you, who the best PG out of Oakland? Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd,

1,000%. Shout out to Gary Payton as well. Y'all think Dame going to catch him? Man, Dame still got work to do. Dame still got work to do. Dame still got work to do. If J.K. played in Alameda, does that count? High school ball. St. Joseph.

And the Reds. I bet. I ain't mad at that. Y'all got GP for sure. Definitely shout out to Gary Payton. Shout out to Leon Poe too. Shout out to Leon Poe. I'll, y'all got GP for sure. Definitely shout out to Gary Payton. Shout out to Leon Poe too. Shout out to Leon Poe. Okay,

shout out to B. Shaw on the other side. Yeah, B. Shaw. But Dame, Dame Lillard different. Dame Dollar different, bro.

Like, Jason Kidd was one of your traditional PGs, but Dame and Lillard, bro, is probably the best player to come out of Oakland,

bro. Which I probably know better. You know. I wouldn't disagree with you. I only said J.K. because of the heritage and how we grew up watching J.K. So I know Damian is still fulfilling his career. He got a lot more to go. I just talked to him the other night, and I know he want that ring.

But J.K. is somebody we seen play in high school go to the NBA, coach we've watched this whole thing and he's also big in our community out here as well so it's just a different level of love and respect when it comes to J. Kidd but salute to Dame as well I want to say this about Dame too y'all, I used to be at all

Dame games because my brother played against him he's the same dude nothing has changed from high school to the pros, he was pulling from I used to be at all Dame games because my brother played against him. He's the same dude. He's the same. Nothing has changed from high school to the pros. He was pulling from logo in high school. Most niggas get benched for that. You know what I'm saying? Especially at them times.

He is just throwing that motherfucker up now. But Dame was pulling. And he had the green light, so you know he could shoot. But shout out to O-High, man. Dame was a fool up at that school. Yeah. Definitely, man. On top of that, To see what Dame did,

he probably, because I might have to agree with that. He might be close to the best player to come out of here that didn't have the most hype coming out of here. He went to Weber and shot the piss out the ball. Yeah. And the way he turned it up there, I don't think nobody thought

Dame coming out of Oakland High, you know what I'm saying, was finna turn into what he did. He went there, he was shooting lights out, you can't deny him. out of Oakland High, you know what I'm saying, was finna turn into what he did. He went there. He was shooting lights out. You couldn't deny him. And then he kept going. You know what I'm saying? He never leveled out.

He got to the league and just turned the fuck up. So, shout out to Dame. Because when he was in high school, I don't know if he had the hype that some of the other dudes. He did. I think Ray Young had more hype coming out of high school. I don't know, Ray Young. How does he do?

UCLA? Nah, they over me. Nah, that's why. He's trying to do a Baron Davis. That nigga is 91. I had a Baron Davis jersey. We grew up watching media. I'll be tripping on what made Dame decide to –

I'll be curious to find out from his people how he decided to go to Weber. That's what – He said his assistant coach he was fly with from the crib, he was just like – he was out here just like, hey, I got a shot for you out here. He said he rocked with it. Yeah, he came and talked about that for sure. He said Weber was one of the few places he could go.

He said it was a direct correlation from the city. He tapped in. That was an excellent choice. All right, Simba, so you know what I mean? Hoop didn't work. He was a damn fool, so you can't hoop no more. I was undisciplined, BN. I wasn't

a fool. I was just undisciplined. I know. I got you, though. That's why I'm in your life now. I got you, my nigga. What was the rapping shit, though. What was the rapping influence, though? Man, bro, just... Did you guys take you to the studio? You know what I mean?

Did you randomly freestyle around the team? Like, how you get into it? Man, honestly, bro, it was something we started, like, hooping. Like, we used to be in the locker room just freestyling and rapping. You know what I mean? Just having fun. I'm sure y'all did the same thing coming up. Just having fun with it.

Being on the team bus. My name is Simba. Yeah, I got them bitches. Yeah. We used to do that. You know what I'm saying? That's the first one. We cook it.

That's where it started. That's where it started from. But I just kept going going and i fell in love with the craft and um i'm somebody that like i love the process of things more than i actually do the beginning of it or the ending result so i love going through the process um and rap for me was something that was like the first thing that i was never good at that i had to work to get better at right so like who I was a natural athlete. So I could literally get in the game and my C-list effort would be a lot of

people's A-work. You know what I mean? But music was something I really had to learn and really get into the craft of and I just fell in love with it from there. I got a question for you. I ain't going to start by who you feel like, who influenced you musically, like basketball, who you play like? They call me Lance Simberston.

Me? You play like Lance? That's what they call me at LA Fitness. They call me Lance Simberston. You bully bull? I'm a defender. You know what I'm saying? I knock down a couple threes, but I'm going to irritate the fuck out you.

So you pat big? Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to get all in your ear. I'm going to irritate the fuck out you. So you pat big? Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to get all in your ear. I'm going to talk that shit. I'm going to steal the ball from you.

I'm going to do a pause. I'm going to do whatever I'm supposed to do to make sure we win the game. No, man. Okay. See, I never thought you was a defender. Nah, nigga. I lock niggas up, pause. I was just saying, you said 47.

I thought you was just a pure scorer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I'm ball hogging and nobody out there guarding me. Oh, okay. So if I got some defenders on me, I'm going to adapt and go the other way, and I'm going to knock down some threes and play some defense. Oh, that's good. I know we talked about music.

Like, who influenced you to rap? Like, I know you said you started off on the hoop tip, rapping on the bus and stuff. But, like, when you got serious about it, like, not even before that. Like, who was you listening to? Like, that's my shit. Man, bro, Jay-Z. Like jay-z was always jay-z jay the kiss i seen jay the kiss last night which was crazy because i had my best friend with me and she told him like this nigga never happens without you because we used to ride to school to jay the kiss like

she told him how we used to be late to class to go buy his albums and things like that so i always was inspired by, like, reality rap. Not just people that can rap because it rhymes. People that really said something that spoke to our culture, spoke to our community, and pushed us forward as a culture is what I always related to. So the Jadakisses, the Kendrick Lamars, the Drakes. Let's get into that subject.

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Drake and Kendrick, how y'all feel about that? This nigga messed. This guy wicked. How y'all feel about that? It's going. I like that new Drake album. I'll say this on another part.

I wish, shout out to P&D, I just wish it was Future on some of them songs instead of him. Really? What you like about the album? I love to give me a hug song. Hard. Now here, imagine Future on that. Hard. Just Drake alone though. Do we really need Future on that?

Shout out to Pluto. Nah, he don't need it. He did his thing on that. Nah, give me a hug, it's crazy. He did his thing on that. He was crazy. I that. Nah, give me a hug. It's crazy. He did his thing on that. He was crazy. I fuck with the type, though. I rock with it. I rock with it, man.

Shout out to Drake. Shout out to Kendrick. But yeah, those guys, bro. J. Cole. Anybody that was a great. Like, I've always been a friend of people that's great. You know what I mean? I used to argue with people when I was a kid that would say Gucci Mane was better than Jay-Z.

But they just didn't understand Jay-Z at the time because they was living the Gucci Mane life. Niggas in the street. You know what I mean? You gotta... Because it's all an opinion. When you really in that life, not saying y'all wasn't, but when some people are programmed

like that nigga is talking about literally what I'm doing. What was Bo we was with Boosie, though. Yeah, like every. What was Boosie like on y'all's side? Because y'all from that Nap Town. Jay-Z on your side. He was like, yeah. Boosie got in that, bro.

Nap Town a little different. What was it like having Boosie over there? He was like, like you said, he was like Jay-Z, bro. Yeah, bro. If you a trap artist in the Swiss at that time, Jeezy, Webby, Boosie, Gotti. Hey. Bro, this was Baby Shire. It's debatable. If Jay, Webby, Boosie, Gotti. This was Baby Shire. It's debatable if Jay-Z there and Boosie there.

Who you going to? What's up? I don't know if y'all too old. Y'all CD old? Yeah. So y'all remember when we used to have the CDs in the binder? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

We old, bro. I'm down there 40. Okay, bet, bet, bet, right? Niggas look good. Niggas have one of these then we old, bro. I'm down there 40. Okay, bet, bet, bet, right? Those niggas look good. Niggas have one of those size niggas, bro. But look, that was when you, because right now,

somebody could just send you a song, you just add it to a library, take a second. But back then, the CD binder told me everything I needed to know about who you fuck with. So because you had to physically

go to the record store, buy this shit, you treated it different. So if I open the nigga CD binder up, whoever's in there, oh, that's who you really fucked. Nah, yeah, for sure. So if you open my shit, it was going to have hard. I had LimeWire, though.

I was burning the shit out of CD. I damn near went to jail for that shit. That was rough. Hey, shout out to LimeWire. That's what fucked the game up. Yeah. LimeWire shit. LimeWire was the

beginning of streaming. What a lot of people don't know is Spotify was the first paywall that the industry could put streaming behind. You had LimeWire, you had BearShare, you had Napster. You had all these different platforms. In 2006, Spotify came with a creation that Steve Jobs tried to

give them in 1999 that the labels wasn't interested in, but it all ended up turning into streaming. Yeah, because I had to show up. That was a real freaky tails over there. On that lawnmower, boy. That nigga had them movies going. Freaky T's.

Freaky T's. There you go. It's only one freaky nigga on this podcast. That's freaky Mike. Nigga had that QK DVD going. Nigga's one of the five. That shit was down low for three days, bro. I always wanted to ask Teague something just because he's one of my favorite people that I love to hear tell stories and speak. What was your favorite city that you loved to play in?

That you wasn't on the team in, but you loved to go there and play? As far as the outside world or Hoopin'? Hoopin'. I liked to play in Utah. Ooh, Park City. Yeah, because it's nothing to do. You can just focus. I love when people are against me.

They booing me and shit. I'm fine with that. And that's how it is in utah so you can lock in have a good game i play great in utah every time would you say you somebody that um performs better under adversity yeah my back against the wall i probably play better that's how i am as a rapper like when i be feeling like niggas got me fucked up yeah i write my best shit in the world. So I can relate to that. Outside of the Bay, what's your favorite place to perform in? Utah. Park City.

Shout out to Jasmine Rose in Park City, Utah. Oh, he did that? No, he was doing shit. Hey, Utah book is doing crazy. I was like, damn, Utah. He's gonna perform in Utah every month. I was like, damn, Utah. I'm performing in Utah every month. I love Utah. We just left Sundance Festival out there.

I actually got a movie coming out called Freaky Tales where I played too short in 1987. It's coming out in April. Yeah, we just premiered it in Sundance in Utah. We're going to be dropping the trailer real soon. I think it's Andre Iguodala's Jersey Retirement Night where to be dropping the trailer real soon. I think it's Andre Eagle Dallas Jersey retirement night where we drop in the trailer. I'm not supposed to say this, but it's Club 520, so fuck it. We here. Come on.

You playing short. That's fire. What was that? I don't know about celebrity or artist that put you on the platform like introduced you to the world. Man, the nigga LeBron. LeBron changed my life.

Like, literally, LeBron the reason I'm here. That's why, like, when it come to Michael Jordan, I'm biased. Every time they want to have that GOAT conversation, I'm going to run with LeBron because LeBron changed my life, man. That's one person to where it's like, he put my song in the front of Space Jam 2. You know what I'm saying? He made sure I was taken care of on the red carpet.

He made sure I was seen. He made sure I got with John Legend. And he just rocked with my freestyles. So he didn't have to do that. You know what I mean? And Draymond as well. Shout out to both of them. They both played a part in my come up.

So I'm forever embedded to them and forever love them forever. They're my big brothers right there. Nah, that's for sure. I know making mixtapes, making albums is different, but that movie score? Oh, yeah. That's a different situation. Oh, yeah. Especially when you control the music in there, too.

Especially when you do that. It's a lot of fun. One thing that making a movie taught me is why the music industry is not thriving right now. Because as a movie it's a production i think one of the hardest things to do is get your team on one accord as a whole most definitely you know what i mean and when you shooting a movie you got the camera guy you got the director you got whoever it may be they all in sync and music is not like that so i really enjoy shooting a movie because i can appreciate the process of the production

it's like a lot of ego involved in music that kind of hinders people I really enjoy shooting a movie because I can appreciate the process of the production. For sure. It's like a lot of ego involved in music that kind of hinders people from those. When you got a movie set or even podcast productions, everybody got a role. Everybody trying to outshine each other. Movie, everybody got to be in sync or the movie's terrible. Everybody getting fired. Music, too much ego involved when people just going straight with stuff. That's why you see

legendary rappers and producers break up. It's like, I've been making crap forever, but a little bit of stuff getting away. Max, what's that like in sports, T? Because I know it's tough when the team ain't on one accord. Break that down for us. Yeah, it's different in the NBA

because it's a money-based league. So, if you on a max deal, obviously you got more pull than somebody on a minimum deal. So, it's never going to be like one accord

because I'm trying to get paid. I'm trying to get where you at. So, when I'm in the game, I'm trying to get my extra five shots. I'm trying to get paid i'm trying to get where you at so when i'm in the game i'm trying to get my extra five shots i'm trying to do whatever i do that i can get some more money for my family so you never that's why when i played in the nba i didn't look at it like that like i always make jokes about the league and stuff man it was fun or whatever but i knew it was a business like i'm on a fast break and i I got somebody that can jump behind me. I'm not throwing the ball back.

I need my two. Like, the crowd not going to be feeling it. Like, throw the ball back. No, I need my two. I averaged eight. I got six. I need my eight. You know what I mean?

So, it's kind of a weird league. If you find a groove with a team that everybody got paid already, that's when you see the good team. That's why when y'all had Oakland with the Warriors, everybody had already been paid. And that's another conversation that we've been having out here too because since the warriors left oakland it felt like the warriors lost that culture when we walk into the chase center we love it we appreciate everybody there but when they were in oakland i knew the security guards yeah you know what i mean it was never a

time that where i was standing outside and couldn't get into the players' interest or couldn't get into the arena because people in Oakland knew who I was. So, shout out to everybody at the Chase Center. But we are really missing that culture of what we had when we were in Oakland versus what's at the Chase Center now. When y'all played in Oakland, the vibe was way different. Like, I felt like we could win when we came to the Chase Center. When you played in Oakland.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Rewind that, rewind that, rewind that. What you mean you felt like you could win? Like, the vibe ain't the same. Like, when you used to come to Oakland, especially when y'all, that run first started with Steph and Clay, Mark Jackson, that whole era, you knew you was losing when you came here.

The crowd was too much. Like, they had gone 15-point runs so here. The crowd was too much. Like, they had gone 15-point run so easy. The crowd was too much. When they got to the Chase Center, it was green. What was it like having to go against that? You got Klay on one side. You got KD over there. You got Draymond pushing the ball up to kick it to Curry.

That was cheating. What was that like as a player? As somebody that's really out there on the floor with them niggas, how confusing was that? Your goal was just to make it to the fourth quarter. If it was a close game by the fourth, then you got a chance to win it. We just got to stay close to the fourth.

Man, that first quarter, if they go out and go on a 20-0 run, they could do that. They could hit five, six threes in a row and it's over with. You done. They gonna win by 30 because you can't shoot with them. You couldn't keep up. But if you can get to the fourth quarter

and make it interesting, that's how you have to think about it when you play here. But if that halftime, you down 15, it's over. Make it to the fourth. Hey, start making your plans, bro.

Where I'm going tonight. Interesting you brought that up because the situation with Dallas, they trying to get that resort, right? So all the fans who've been around that organization is pissed

because they hardened souls into this. But you look at the organization and like, nah, we about to build this resort. We about to get this bread. So it's kind of

the same situation. It sucks when you successful because now it's time for more opportunity. We said the people along the way to build the stuff, they get lost in the situation.

But then people don't get looked at as people. They get looked at as numbers in the situation. Right. That's what I try to tell. Rad people. They get looked at as numbers in the situation. Right. That's what I try to tell. Rad was having this conversation. I was talking about Raiders leaving and going to Vegas.

Yeah. How that kind of fucked the city up. The tailgate and all the shit around the surrounding Raiders was like, that was like a lifestyle. It was a part of art. You know what I'm saying? The fabric of Oakland. And then when they left with them, when you look at it, when they go from one of the worst value teams in sports to like worth billions of dollars and then when you look at it from that

aspect like how do you can't hate a business how do you not do that you know yeah so how do y'all feel all y'all in this room so when we was having that conversation I asked him because sports has fans though right and so the fans have to be into it are we heading towards super corporate to where like i look back at old games and fans didn't even have jerseys on they didn't even have team gear on like if you look at old nba videos in the 80s it wasn't apparel wasn't even selling like that so do y'all feel like sports is moving to that just like we're gonna be big and the team is going to be worth this, but we don't care about the championships?

Well, I mean, championships don't necessarily make you valuable unless you're trying to sell the team to an extent. I mean, of course, you want to have a successful organization, but look at the Dallas Cowboys. We ain't won a Super Bowl since I was elementary school, but they're the most profitable business in sports. Unfortunately, bro. It's a narcotic.

Somebody had a jerry curl in that house. Shots on. He's a narcotic. Somebody had a jerry curl in that house. Shots on. He had a little side hustle in the job. You have to say that in the Raiders is the AFC equivalent to the Cowboys. You're like, we really the same friends. No, our friends are different. We feel how they feel. Y'all friends, the Raiders fans, y'all respect.

Y'all move differently than Cowboys fans. Cowboys fans, they whatever. Raiders fans. But what I'm saying, Jerry Jones is really Cowboys fans. Cowboys fans, they whatever. Raiders fans. But what I'm saying, Jerry Jones is really out, they philosophies and the way they get between. Jerry Jones is a better businessman, but out, they philosophy on a team ownership of it

is the same. They in all the business. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? All in the videos. You know what I'm saying? They all have a concession in Raiders. True.

Jerry Jones. All the luxury bodies. Damn, for real? He don't own the concession. Oh, yeah, it's over. Come on, bro. That's gangsta. I knew he on the Raiders. That's crazy.

That's what I'm talking about. Get down. The concession stand is a dope game. Come on, bro. Some of the shit I see Jerry Jones do, I be like, damn, Al Davis is living through. He would have did that same exact shit. Nah, for sure. I mean, look at the NBA, bro.

Look how long it took him to get, oh boy, from the Clippers away. Yeah. From the, like. He bought that for what, 100? Come on, bro. Look how long it took. Look how much blatant shit had to happen for them to make him sell that team. Yeah.

Yeah, bro. Let me ask y'all a question, man. How y'all feel about the Niners, though? Let me say this. I'm a Niners hater. Fuck them 49ers, man. How y'all feel about the Niners, though? Let me say this. I'm a Niners hater. Fuck them 49ers, man. Say it again. Fuck them 49ers.

We Raider fans over here, man. Can I join? We Raider fans. Hold on. Get my good side. Y'all ready? Fuck the 49ers, man. We Raider fans out here. And to your favorite team?

49ers. When it go deeper than that, because, you know, Oakland is the blue-collar city. Yeah. And San Francisco is like, they like the princesses of the, you know what I'm saying?

They kind of like that shit. We just got a good race. Go get us canceled again. You got to realize we from Oakland. I thought you were going to say like the Kings. No, no, no, no, no, no. And when I say princesses, I'm not talking about they are princesses. I'm saying the way they are treated.

You know what I'm saying? They apologize for it. We like the writers. We like the stepchilds of this shit. You know what I'm saying? Iron workers, blue collar, that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? We get the worst of everything.

Real finesses. But we were all the culture. So you're in for Colin Kaepernick. I got a theory about Colin Kaepernick. Oh, do you? I got a theory about Colin Kaepernick. What's the theory? And I never said this, but we on Club 520.

I'm with my nigga Teague, my nigga DJ Wells, and my nigga B-Han out the Purlies. I'm going to say it. I think that nigga got on that blackity black shit because he was playing terrible. I think it started going bad and he was having a bad season and he just started taking a knee

to take attention off his performance. He wasn't even playing though. But he wasn't playing at that time though. When he started, he was coming off the bench at that time. That ain't where I thought he was going to go with that one. That's my nigga,

I'm a Sigma sign. I thought he had some Bay Area info. I just always felt like it came out of nowhere. Like, it was just like, he just started taking a knee one day out of nowhere and it was just like,

where'd this come from? Yeah, the timing could be, you know, be impeccable. But yeah, the play was definitely declining. So when Deion Sanders was on the Niners, y'all ain't fucked with him either? Hell yeah, that's prime time. We love him. I did fuck with Prime, but I was a big Rod Wilson fan. So, you know, in my closest home, he just went back and forth.

Burned Hanks, huh? I thought Rod Wilson was a better DB than Deion. I can say, yeah, I bought it. Oh, no, we're going to start that one. Say it again. Say it again what you said. No, no, no. Rob Wilson did it all.

Y'all remember Rob Wilson, right? Most definitely. He did it all. A lot of Deion. We really didn't get to see a lot of Deion because they were scared to go his direction. That's my point. They stayed away. If you can make plays and I can't because they not throwing my way.

I'm probably better. But I just wanted that one clip where I seen Deion just stick his head in. Oh, no, you're going to get in that. No, no, no, no. No. No, you're going to get shoot. Now, listen, we in Mitchell and Nesmith. That Rob Woodson.

One of the hardest throwbacks of all time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One of the hardest. Yeah, them sneakers was hard. First sneakers with white laces. First black sneakers with white laces. That was all the way over here, though.

Nigga, I'm the first. Shout out to Ron. Shout out to Ron, dude. Shout out to Ron. We got to give Prime more light on his rap career, though. Y'all got to stop hating on Prime. Must be the money. Come on.

Prime got a few classic verses. He might get Shaq in a battle, too. You out of pocket. Not out of pocket. Shaq, nah. Out of pocket. Shaq can't stop the rain with the hardest rap songs. Yeah, Shaq won't let him.

Shaq might be the greatest NBA rapper. Shaq might be the greatest NBA rapper. Dame, bro. You right, Dame. You right. You right. Y'all right. Dame.

Shout out to Dame. Oh, LeVon. Y'all right, Dame. Shout out to Dame. Jello about to clean check up. Jello looked terrible last night at the All-Star game. I'm just saying. My bad.

I'm out of pocket. My pocket. Jello looked terrible last night. Hey, man. You see him on the live performance? He the reason why

they lost. It looked terrible. He performed in front of 70,000 people his first show. That wasn't a good one. The All-Star game was too light for him.

Yeah, this is light bill for him. If Dane didn't hoop, Dane could have took on a full rap. He got the charisma to take on a full rap. He do. Yeah. He got the swag. He's so disciplined. I feel like Dane could do whatever he wants to do.

If Dane didn't hoop, y'all think he could have took on a full? You think he got the charisma to take on a full rap career? Yes. He got the whole demeanor. He show everybody Oakland. fool you think he got the charisma to take on a full rap career yes he got the whole demeanor and i he showed everybody oakland like where he from like and people gravitate and it goes across the world like we really fuck with dane yeah because yeah he who but he feel like one of us and he from all the way out here bro you know what i'm saying so i think he's more relatable than everybody else that rapped to the masses that played in the league.

Nah, but Terry Sabal is my nigga on some other shit, though. Off the court. The real CC, though. He was on Living Single. What you want to get on? Everything, nigga. He was on a TV show.

The league cameos. Yeah. Was it Hanging with Mr. Cooper? Yeah. Mr. Cooper, too. I got a question for y'all. How did y'all all meet? Me and DJ went to high school together. Cooper. Yeah. With Mr. Cooper too. I got a question for y'all. How did y'all all meet? Me and DJ

went to high school together. Okay. I went to Butler and Hen neighborhood is where Butler is. If you don't know

where Butler University is it's right next to the ghetto. They told me you had no left hand. For me? Nah, I got a burner though. Okay. I'm a one trick pony baby

but he paid the bills god damn it. Him and Shell was super cool. We looked up on campus on some shoe shit. So me and him tapped in that way.

Me and Freaky Mike worked at Foot Locker together and B.H. catered his wedding. So like, it's crazy. Six-year-old chef merchant type shit for real.

Yeah, that's dope, man. I met my guys for a minute, man. I met B.H. He talk shit all day. Yeah. So he talked about shoving. Mack, me and shoving end up being real cool,

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episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. So we coming around. I've been knowing him for a while because I used to open up the Butler gym and they used to have,

when he was in high school, he used to come and kill, like, all the old heads from my hood. Like, him, Jeremy Mixon, he was the all them. You know what I mean? They was some big killers. But once we got grown

and kind of circled back around, you know, everybody like, T-Haw, my nigga fuck T, my nigga shell in the league, nigga. But just popping shit. But he was shitty because I had many of my side used to go do shit called Music Mondays. Everybody like the league, nigga. But just popping shit. But he was shitty. Because I had many of my side.

We used to go to this shit called Music Mondays. Everybody like, nah, bro. T-Code. I'm like, he is cold. But my youngin' coming up. So my nigga, he got drafted to the Wizards. And we got like a pro-am game. So Jeff, I don't give a fuck about nothing else.

Nigga, it's Zach Randolph, John Wall. There are some hitters in that business. Like, for real. You know what I mean? Everybody thinking he hooping because he in that for the city. Nah, it's like videos of him pointing at me, nigga. Like, fuck you, nigga. This sad ass nigga.

So my nigga Shelvin called a quick, I don't know what this nigga had. Best game of his life. He ain't even look at me like, what's up? Why you so aggressive? I mean, we're talking to be sad ass niggas. I'm like, this nigga sad. He didn't even know. He was looking at me like, what's up? Why you so aggressive? I mean, we're talking to B-Sad. That nigga sad.

I'm like, that nigga sad. He like, who the hell? Cheryl ain't know B-Him was instigating the whole time. I'm not even really paying attention. I'm like, man,

that's what he's supposed to do. He ain't a rookie. I'm arguing with Oscar Roberts and people in the crowd, his nephews and shit. Like talking to them about how sad they uncle was.

Yeah, yeah. That's all he do is talk shit, man. Nah, but then that's just, that became my guy,

man. You know, we've been locked in damn near, shit, 15 years. That was 2012, what was that?

Yeah, so that's 13 years. Teague, I heard you, um, welcome to the NBA moment before, but what was the

moment when you was like, damn, I wasn't ready for that? Like, what was a moment that just caught like, damn, I wasn't ready for that? Like, what was a moment that just caught you totally off guard in the NBA?

How much money people really got. That's the thing that caught me off guard. Like, you hear people make millions and stuff. So one day,

not to tell this bitch, fuck it, I'm going to tell you, you can look it up. So, we used to get check stubs, right?

And you a rookie, I got my check stub stuff i think mine was probably like 86 000 for the two weeks or whatever i'm like damn so i just grabbed joe's let me see what joe's shit look like that shit said two million two million i'm like yeah i gotta figure some shit out like this is my life you get this for two weeks? Shout out to Joe Johnson. I'm like, yeah, I got to figure some shit out. Like, this is my life. You get this in two weeks? I was like, yeah, that was like the first thing.

So, because I couldn't understand it. Like, you a young dude, you coming in, you coming to money. My mom and dad didn't have money, so I didn't come for money. I just told one of the young homies last night, he was trying to get some soft legs that belongs to somebody that play on the Celtics. And I was like, man, that nigga got a max contract. Leave her alone. Yeah, it's quiet.

I just love him, bro. You can't compete with that max contract, buddy. He experienced a lot of that in ATL. So you saying it ain't nobody out here knocking down nobody, girl, that got a max contract? Yeah. It's a broke nigga with some good out here f***ing shit out of max contract right now.

I'm just saying. I'm not the beat. I'm not the beat. You're not brought to coaching with me, B. You're not supposed to sound like short-knock for coaching. What's my favorite word

y'all come on our show act a fool everybody else niggas answer questions on property yeah you gotta you gotta watch yourself out here

they will back don't be selective when you take your girl with you out here these niggas will back man outside of that we in the party yesterday this nigga

talking to me he said yeah there's 20 of them that can't get in. They'll rob everybody in here. I'm like, well, nigga, make sure all the motherfuckers get in here. I have my wallet right here. I got my shit snubbed.

What the fuck? What did y'all be forgetting is how much it costs to live out in this motherfucker. No, no. What if my guys live out here? He. No, no. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't.

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Man, I'm like, yeah, what the fuck is $6 for gas? That's some different shit. So he like, it's 20 beautiful things outside ready to touch you. I'm like, nigga, who? What they fashion number dress look like? We got all the one pieces. I really want to send a shout out to a lot of the big homies who've been working behind the scene to make sure this weekend was beautiful. It's a lot of things that could have went down that didn't go down.

So we want to send a shout out to them and shout out to the whole Bay Area, the NBA, everybody that allowed this to happen. Man, we don't get this a lot. It's been 25 years since we had the All-Star game here. I was a kid when I seen Vince Carter go between the legs, pause. But to have this back in the city just to see my people, you know what I mean? My brother Rad was with the head of the NBA last night. My brother Brownie was at the Chase Center hosting

an event for us to be able to have this for y'all to be here. You know what I'm saying? When I seen you, I'm like, bro, whatever y'all need, y'all straight, because we appreciate y'all for even getting on that flight and coming out here and fucking with us, bro. We feel the love, too, man. Shout out to Mitchell and this, man.

You talk about the 25th anniversary, that whole caption. I mean, excuse me, the whole collection that they have for this. Like, you see the Vince jersey up here. You see the OG Shaq jersey with the tag. Like, that's a real big all-star game for a lot of members, people growing up. So, especially for y'all who y'all saw it firsthand, we influenced 25 years later still being here, man. Yes, sir a that was a big game for us man vince did a lot

for us with that shout out to jason richardson too because um he was the following year 2001 i think it was in like philly or something like that and he went there and did the crazy between the legs joint but he had that warriors jersey on and he was repping for us and that really got the city down so shout out to that whole We Believe team, J. Rich, Baron Davis. I seen my brother Matt Barnes last night, Steven Jackson, Al Harrington, even my nigga Gilbert

Arenas who played for the Warriors before. Man, shout out to everybody that ever came to the city and fucked with us. I wanted to ask you too, bro, back to the music shit. Like, what's your favorite freestyle you done done so far? Because your Justin Incredible shit is crazy. Yeah, straight up. Nah, um. Back to the music shit. Like, what's your favorite freestyle you done done so far? Because your Justin Incredible shit is crazy. Yeah.

Straight up. Nah. This nigga freestyle is great. They all be different. They all be different for me, man. Like, everyone means something different. You know what I mean? Like, I probably was pissed off one day when I wrote the L.A. Leakers joint,

but I was feeling myself when I wrote the fire in the booth joint. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's just everyone be different for me. But if I had to pick one, I would say the Funk Flex joint. I would say when I went to Funk Flex, and not the Tupac part, but when I broke down, just what happens to us as young black men with success.

You know what I'm saying? We get money. We come from these impoverished communities to where a lot of our friends have the sin of familiarity a lot of niggas be hanging with the next Michael Jordan don't even know it be with the next Jay Z and don't even know it because they your friend

you know what I mean and I was rapping from that perspective just to show like how it ain't fair to where we get in these positions and we had a dream of certain people being in that dream and then you get there and it's like, Oh, you can't go.

You know what I mean? Everybody ain't meant to go. So if I had to pick one, I would definitely say the funk flex. What's the process with that though? Or is you going in like, Hey, I'm gonna do this beat or you already kind of know what you're going to say,

or it's just more so like, I'm on the spot. I'm a, I'm one of them people here and there where I just let life happen, bro. Like I don't, I don't people Here and there Where I just let life happen bro Yeah Like I don't I don't try to calculate nothing I just let it happen like

I wrote that Funk Flex verse Three days before I found out I was going up there Okay You know what I'm saying So I'm in Philly On tour

With my nigga Joyner Lucas Shout out to Joyner We on tour And then my label Had hit me like Yo Flex want you to come up Rap I'm like what beat You want me to do They like Wu-Tang Cream Bet say no more We on tour, and then my label had hit me like, yo, Flex wants you to come up, rap. I'm like, what beat do you want me to do?

They like Wu-Tang Cream, Bet, Say No More. The whole way from Philly to New York, I'm writing. You know what I'm saying? I'm writing a verse. I'm rapping this shit in the phone. I'm getting to the hotel at 4 in the morning trying to memorize this shit, because I got to be there at 7 a.m.

You know what I mean? So it's a different process process but I take my craft serious and when I lock in I don't think there's too many people that can fuck with me nah you one of them ones bro

like I said it's so crazy that I like me and you building a relationship for sure but bro I used to post your shit

all the time on IG bro a couple years ago for real nah I was watching the episode and somebody had yelled out Simba know how to hoop?

And Teague was like, no he don't. I seen him at the Russell game. I only speak facts, bro. And him was like, nah, that's my nigga. I'll fuck with him. And I went back to go DM you. And I had seen you tagging me and shit

before. Way before, bro. Like, nah, this nigga is the one. And you from all the way out here. I didn't even know where you was from. But my brother, he's like, nah, bro, tap in. He sent me I forgot the first one I sent you. It's in our DMs for sure. But I was tagging you all the time. Because I was really like, nah,

he one of them ones. And I'm on everybody ass this year. Pause. Like I said, we on Club 520, so I'm letting it be known. I was really like, nah, he wanted them more. I'm on everybody's ass this year. Pause. Like I said, we on Club 520, so I'm letting it be known. I was in a crazy situation that I just got out of. I'm a free man now. I think all y'all should be afraid.

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Speaking of, we don't have to talk about the label or nothing. What did you learn from that though? Never drop until your team on one accord. If your team ain't on one accord, especially when you in them buildings, every department got to align. So the marketing side got to be aligned with the product manager. The product manager got to be aligned with the A&R.

The A&R got to be aligned with the executive. If all this shit ain't aligned, when the executive comes downstairs to spend the money, you look like you ain't got your shit together, and then you end up falling to the mercy of that. So a lot of times, I will put my destiny in other people's hands, and I'll slowly start taking it back, and I'll never do that again. Okay, for sure, for sure. Damn, that kind of hit home, huh?

Niggas had a moment of silence. And it's awesome. Go crazy on the show. It's my own silence. God bless to the new journey. So what's next? We on tour? What are we doing?

Yeah, we got tour on the way, but the thing that I'm most excited about is this new movie, Freaky Tales, with Tom Hanks and Pedro Pascal coming out this April. That's big, bro. I'm super excited about it this new movie, Freaky Tales, with Tom Hanks and Pedro Pascal coming out this April. I'm super excited about it.

I got the opportunity to play one of my idols, Too Short, in 1987. You going bald? You said what? Are you going to cut all your shoes? I got the hat on. I have the hat on. I ain't have to go bald, but the teeth look crazy. When y'all see me with the teeth, it's going to be crazy.

Yeah. That's all right. That's all right. Shout out the teeth, it's going to be crazy. Yeah. That's all right. They got it right. Shout out to Macro. Shout out to Lionsgate. But that was phenomenal for me. That's what I'm

super excited about and getting back to the music. Nah, bro, you deserve all that shit, bro, for real. Where I've been going, I didn't even trip

till All-Star weekend. Niggas feel like you could have played Anthony Edwards. This nigga like Anthony Edwards, everywhere I go, they be thinking this nigga Anthony Edwards. Youiggas feel like you could've played Anthony Edwards. This nigga like Anthony Edwards. Everywhere I go, they be thinking this nigga Anthony Edwards. You could've.

You could've. Probably in 2017 when you was hooping for real. Nah, Lockett, that'd be hard. You first down over commercial. That'd be hard, bro. Shout out to my dog Langston at Adidas. Who works with A.E., works with James, Langston, at Adidas. Okay. Who works with AE,

works with Jane, works with Dame. Y'all been killing that AE campaign and commercials. What a year. Everything y'all been doing, bro, y'all been killing it, man.

Shout out to y'all over at Adidas. Come on, man. Adidas feel like then. Shout out to Cam, shout out to Allen, for sure. I want to ask you this,

man, I know your freestyles, they go crazy, but what's that feeling like or that first feeling when you got your stage moment, you'd like, I rock.

Like that first concert, like, I hear that. I still don't feel like that. Really? I still don't feel like that, DJ. I still feel like I got shit to do.

I got shit to prove. You know what I mean? So even when I'm up there and I hear people screaming the lyrics or one of my songs, people sing a lot when I perform

is Can't Win For Nothing. Yeah. And, it's, it's a euphoric feeling, but it's also like I could do more. I could be bigger. I could beat this. You know what I'm saying? I hear where the drums could be better.

I hear where I got lazy on the lyric. I hear where I was just trying to win the crowd over with the hook, and now it's like how do I authentically be me with this no matter what I'm doing? And I'm owning that now, and i'm stepping into it and i'm not allowing no motherfucker to force my process i'm gonna take my time whether it take me a year two years three years i'm gonna get it right but i'm gonna take my motherfucking time when that time is right y'all gonna see it most definitely for sure man we always ask people like they goats Mount Rushmore I know you said you rocked with Jay-Z but like we grew up like we said

we listen to Boosie and shit but Lil Wayne when we was growing up goat man he was like the guy I was wondering

where you rank Lil Wayne as far as like your rappers favorite rappers T you my nigga man I hate that you asked me this

cause I can't lie to you. I love Wayne. I think it was tough for us to grow with the music as it got older. I think he has a phenomenal catalog. But it's certain things to me that I feel like, you know, could have been enhanced or could have been whatever it may be, but he's a legend. I always got Wayne in my top 10,

but I'm somebody that choose quality over quantity. So when it come to artists, I'm always run with Jay-Z. I feel like his taste level is unmatched. Kendrick Lamar, the taste level is unmatched. It's just Drake even, you know what I mean? It's certain people to where it's just like, they put a certain effort into the music that we never heard before. We never seen.

They changed the sound of things. We was just having a conversation about Drake and we was saying like, Drake, like created the industry standard to where like, where like if you were somewhere close to that, you would be successful. Right? So it's hard to, now that Kendrick's the guy, it's hard to follow that because it's so authentically him.

But Drake kind of created a standard for everybody to kind of be like, hey, here's where we go with this thing. And I feel like- But didn't Wayne do that too, though? As rappers. Yeah. As rappers. So as rappers, to me,

he's one of the greatest rappers ever. But when it come to like song making, Drake took it to another level. Kendrick took it to another level. You know what I mean? I see what he's saying. You know what I mean? So I salute everybody.

And I don't want this to feel like I'm bashing one of my idols because Wayne has done things I probably would never do in my life I look up to him I study him I love him to death

but I feel like Drake and Kendrick and certain people people just took the song making ability to another level it's like what you always say with championships

you know what I'm saying the team will win they set the tone right Drake was winning for a very long time as far as industry standards and numbers wise. So then Kendrick come in,

all right, now how do you copy Kendrick? That's like trying to copy Kawhi getting that ring in Toronto. You can't do that shit. That's an anomaly. You can build a good team, you can build a Warriors team,

Dynasty, add to that like Drake had, but you can't go get Kawhi to go somewhere, get one and go out. Yeah. I agree. That's a fact.

Like Drake has had like three successful rap careers in one month. The only people realize he been at the top of the game for 15, 16 years. You know what I'm saying? It's tough, bro.

Drake came in what, 2010? 2009, he came. So far gone was L.A., right? Yeah, that's what should change. That's a long time to be at the top, bro. How y'all feel about rappers at halftime performance? I've been hearing people say the Kendrick shit was not so good, but in my opinion, I'd be like, damn,

what more could he have done to make it a better show? That's what I'd be trying to figure out. What can a rapper do if he's not a dancer or a break dancer? That's what it is. What could you do? Yeah, I don't think rappers should. I'm not saying they shouldn't do halftime shows, but if it's going to be a rapper, it got to be like how L.A. did it, where all those rappers gave you different.

Yeah. They can't be one dude because they don't dance. Yeah. I think one thing people are upset about, and I'm a big Kendrick fan, is we didn't get the set list we were looking for, right? But the dope part about it is he took a world platform

and made it his motivation and what he had going on. That's the dopest shit ever to me. I don't care what y'all talking about. I'm here for one reason and one reason only and I showed the world this shit.

That's a hell of an accomplishment. That's dope. We just don't want to see another nothing like that again. Shut up. Look, and I'm all, I'm all, I'm all for the Black Beauty. Hey, did you hate

on my nigga Doc? Oh, I don't know. Could I have a moment? Did you hate on my nigga Doc? No, I love Doc. Swimming Pools is one of my favorite songs,

nigga. What are you saying right now, man? Listen. I'm all ears. Yeah. So look, bro, the halftime show

is a different platform. Like, Kendrick doing that, he's the only one. That's why I'm saying we don't want to see it no more. He's the only one that can do it and make his mark and everybody respect it. We loved what he did. But, bro, we don't want to see next year Common do the same thing. We don't want to see Lupe Fiasco the following year, you know, mix it up. I can't argue with that.

Yeah. So bring my nigga Future. No. It's not pushback. We'll be a mess. 56-9. The dancers gonna come out. Y'all done pissed these white people off so bad. Oh, they going back white.

Kelly Clarkson is pulling up. Kelly Clarkson. So y'all better enjoy them Kish Club Bar t-shirts while you can who they get next year I don't know bro Molly

Molly 2-2 she done Justin Bieber Jay-Z running through his roster first nah Justin Bieber he got that contract he do bro

but I feel like you gotta go with somebody not XT but I think we forgot how real quick how the Super Bowl used to look, the halftime performance. You're gonna have ACDC, Metallica

playing with her and some other rap, Nick McLemore coming out the cut with a little verse. Kendrick could've did his thing, for sure. Like I said, we all respect that. It ain't no hate. But he could've brought out more people so it'd appease some more. Like, bro, you gotta think. I'ma just keep it real.

And all you fake conscious-ass rappers, nigga, fuck y'all. Because niggas don't keep it real, bro, on my soul. All women watch Super Bowl for the halftime show, my nigga. So I don't care about all what niggas is talking about,

bro, that is an entertainment moment for people's families, bro. So they want to see they pop star. Like all of our girls listen to Lil Wayne. So if he would have popped out, bro, they would have been singing along too and engaged in that shit. You know what I'm saying? I think it was on brand for Kendrick just because it was a buck the system moment. Oh, yeah, exactly.

So also, and we got to remember this, he performed the songs he owned. So he was really fighting against the system with that one. This was like, I ain't trying to come back. Nigga, don't invite me. Nah, right, right, right, right. Kendrick, he was a streaker. You know, somebody be in the crowd and they run. They run across the field.

You open, niggas. I'll fuck with y'all Kendrick Kendrick was a streaker at the Super Bowl Kendrick took that moment to do it to protest so he was a streaker at the Super Bowl

I get it I get it you got my nigga I get what you saying I get what you saying, though. I get what you saying. Don't miss the message, man. I get what you saying. I get what you saying, though.

Well, that nigga's crazy, man. Nah, bro. We ain't all that serious ass shit. Shout out to Serena. Put some bad bitches out there, man. Get them cheerleaders. Michelle. Y'all ride Grand National,

don't you? Let's call people out there who got something. Yeah, let's call them. Michelle, yeah. Shout out to Dot, too, man. Kendrick. Kendrick been killing it

for West Coast culture this last year, man. That's my dog right there. He supported me before anybody knew me So I always got love for my nigga shout out to Doc Shout out to K-Dot for sure man Appreciate y'all for slime bro We done had a hell of a weekend man

We wrap it up with the gang here man Shout out to Mitchell and Ness one more time We appreciate y'all man And like I said man I appreciate y'all For allowing my brothers to come This Baharian shit This Baharian shit mean a lot to us, bro. It's not just about me.

It's not about him. It's not about him. It's about us. So when we can move as a unit and people allow us to do that, we gonna continue to do that and we appreciate y'all for being here. You're always welcome, bro. Appreciate what y'all do for the culture, man. We gonna continue to support you. Be here and I told you when you get off the plane,

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