Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Tracy McGrady on Kevin Durant comp, punching Jeff, NBA Finals, Ace Bailey

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 72 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Tracy McGrady. T-Mac talks about recently-traded star Kevin Durant of the Houston Rockets being compared to him, punching Jeff Teague, the NBA Finals between the Indiana Pacers and Oklahoma City Thunder, as well as how he would average 40 in today's NBA. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Your neighbor good though. Yes sir, man, we back at it again, man. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. Still got my brothers on stage with me. To my left, we got my dog, Bishop B. Hitting out the Prillies. How you what? What's happening, Nancy? What up, Fanatics?

What's happening, Fanatics Fest? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To my right, my dog, Young Nacho. Young T, how you what? I'm chilling. I see you back there, friend. What's up, man? What's happening with it? show man? Listen, man We have fanatics with it and we got another wonderful guest man longer-waited guests man We are very excited about this episode Hall of Famer one of the coldest to do it be all grew up on his shoes Pure Hooper man, the one the only mr. T Mac Tracey McGrady big dollar Join us on stage. Show some love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey. Oh. Yes, sir. Mack. Hey, my young and get up and greet me, man. Turn my mic on in this motherfucker, man. What up, young? What's up, bro?

Huh? What's up, man? You remember you punched me. Let's get this. Let's get this out the way. Let's just get it out the, bro? Huh? What's up, man? You remember you punched me. Let's get this out the way. Let's just get it out the way right now. This dude right here, man, he used to play so much. I just wanted to beat his ass, yo.

He played too much. He's young, bro. He just played entirely too much, man. I'm trying to get back in the lead. This dude's playing around too much. I did play around a lot, but- We had to get your side of the story. You know what I'm saying?

It's two sides to the story. So do you remember what happened? Y'all really bleed to you going at, he said it really happened. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to put it for you. So I used to mess with Mac every day and he used to be like, man, shut the like, shut up. Why you always talking? Like, so I used to mess with him.

He was like, one day we was eating. I was, we was in a thing and I was sitting back and he walked up. He was like If Marvin like what you gonna do oh gee initiated young fellow initiating a young fella. That's all the world go. That's my little homie, man. Yeah, it's all love. Y'all doing good things up here, bro. Been watching y'all.

Man, we trying to, man. Long awaited episode, man. We happy you could pull up, man. Like we said, we all big fans of you for sure, man. Grew up with the C-Mats. Man, we gonna start first and foremost. We all love the good feet, gang. And you got some legendary kicks, right?

So what's it like? We know how you came into the league, but what's that moment when T-Mack gets his first signature shoe? It's like that kid, man. You know, we all was a kid playing on a playground and you was out there with your favorite player hooping in them shoes.

And for me it was MJ's, it was Pips, and then Penny came along and that's all I wore when I had opportunity you know, opportunity to get some pennies. But then when I, it came along when I got my shoe and then it wasn't, it wasn't to the point. I saw my shoe, had it in hand, I wore it. But when you go out in public and you see kids or your fans with your shoe, that's the

validation right there. That's like, damn dog, I made it. What's crazy, seeing somebody with your jersey on or seeing somebody with the sneaks on? Nah, the sneaks. Cause anybody in the NBA gonna have a jersey. Everybody can have them sneaks. Everybody can have it on, see.

That black and blue color way, crazy. That OG color way. And what's crazy is, you know what I'm saying, you had like iconic moments in your shoes. Like, you know what I'm saying, the T-Mac 1, the all-star moment off the backboard like yeah when you see that you just see like moments like when we look at other people's shoes we think of moments so for you to have your first couple signatures with like crazy moments in them it just kind of like cemented it all in our minds. I want to ask you what's your favorite shoe that you designed?

What's your favorite TMac shoes? For me it's the 3.5 and a lot might not know about the 3.5s. I wore those when I was on a USA team, it was a qualifying team, but about 3.5s but because they don't know I'll say the T-Mac 3s. The 3s was the most, the fire that we still sell into this day. Yeah the T-Mac 3s, you know what I'm saying, almost got me whooping in my household because I asked my mom about two pair of shoes so I could mismatch them. And she was like, yeah, we ain't going for that. Most definitely, man.

But listen, man, before we get to the episode, we got a gift for you, man. Shout out to Tommy John. Tommy John. Tommy John, yes, sir. Be here to tell the people they need to do for you, sir. Man, just wear them drawers. That's it.

Dress them drawers. I don't know if they wear the size fits all. Nah, they ain't white. They not in. They ain't giving me no white drawers. Nah, they not thin. They got the elastic band to extend open for today's high Texas ball handling batters pause on the court but I'm talking to get draws keep it there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great draws are like great sweatpants. You know the vibes. Shout out to Tommy John. Hey, hold it up like we're 100 points on this race.

Hey, shout out to Tommy Don, bro. Shout out to Tommy John, man. You know we rockin' heavy with y'all, man. But you've been going crazy recently, man. We gotta talk about it. Instantly. Oh, you about to say it. Hey, you brought up, and we ain't gonna get too talk about it. Instantly. Oh, you about to say it.

Hey, you brought up, and we ain't gonna get to it. We ain't trying to be messy. But you brought up an Indiana Pacer legend, man. One Dakota Salazer, about the PG for the Pacers. Odd Dog, Jamal Tinsley. Yes, sir. We heard the back and forth conversation about Kyrie. That's cool.

We ain't gonna get to that. But it's dope to hear players, especially who is around, show love to people who don't get recognition all the time. I'm glad you said that, because that was the sole reason for me saying that. I know, trust me, I know basketball, bro. And I know Kyrie is the best when it comes to handles. There's two of my best, and I'm on record as saying this, it's Kyrie and it's Skip Tommalo, my old teammate.

Right, for Austin. Them the two best like for me But yeah when I get an opportunity to highlight somebody that's in my generation of basketball my era I'm gonna take the time to do that The thing is people don't know my agenda when I said that so of course I expect that reaction It's the reaction that I wanted. Yeah, right because I'm highlighting somebody like when you look at Jamal Tinsley, bro People in comparing him to Kyrie. Yeah, they gonna laugh at that But you go and really see what that motherfucking did when he was a rookie

It ain't too many cast that had 23 assists when it was a rookie So although you might laugh that he's not compared to Kyrie He's still somebody you can learn to and appreciate his game. So using Kyrie was my main goal. You gotta use somebody like that. And then the trigger words is, yeah, he better. He got better hands, right?

It's the internet game, bro. Oh yeah, that's all I did. So shout out to Jamal Tinsley, man. Now these young fellas know who he is. That's the stuff. Like, looking in the crowd, and you still see people with T-Mack jerseys and stuff like that. What is that like?

Because I don't never see a T-Mack jersey. Anybody who has a 55 Boston, I don't never see a T-Mack jersey. But, like, to see that, like, what's that like? You know, T-Man, I... It's love, bro, you know? And I don't take it for granted. I appreciate every time I see somebody with a T-Mack jersey on, anything T-Man, it's love, bro. You know, and I don't take it for granted. I appreciate every time I see somebody

with a T-Mac jersey on, anything T-Mac, you know. Even 12 years after being retired, that shit still does something to me because I appreciate that. I appreciate their appreciation of me. And I'm always gonna show love. That's the best one right there. Which one?

That pinstripe one right here. The buddy that strikes the stuff. I was gonna ask you the next one, what's your favorite jersey? Cause you got a lot of iconic jerseys, you know what I'm saying? You got the Raptors, you got Orlando, you got Houston, what's your favorite jersey?

That purple Raptors jersey is fire. Ah yeah. I'm talking about like out of all jerseys, that purple Raptors is fire. The rookie year? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the all jerseys that purple wrap is fire. The rookie year? Yeah. Yeah.

That's the one. That's the one. Yes. That's the one. That's the one. That's that one. Now you look at today's NBA, right? A little bit of a difference between you play a little bit more freedom.

We got the finals going on right now. Game seven. OKC Pacers. I want to ask you if you could play for either one of those teams right now, where are you pulling up to? Indiana. Yeah. Indiana. teams right now, where you pulling up to? Indiana? Yeah.

Indiana? I mean, first of all, they got a freaking great coach. Rick Carlisle is probably one of the best basketball minds in the game right now. And we're seeing that every night. But I like their cohesive. They don't have a superstar. So I like their cohesive.

I like that they do it by committee and integrate somebody like me that could get buckets consistently with what they already have. Great shooting. You got great penetrators and ask someone that could get buckets. I like my chances. Most definitely. You got both those things obviously with all star superstars. They have a lot of role players. You see the league gravitate more towards that because I know back in that you had the hierarchy was a little bit different. We had like two or three guys took a majority of shots. Everybody kind of filled their roles. Now with both these teams, you got some off the bench who

can go shoot six threes and it's all gravy. Hell yeah. I love it. I love it because in today's game, there's a lot more hoopers. Okay. I mean, there's not guys that just do one specific thing, right? One thing that's really great. You got these guys, man, they can score on both sides of the body. They can do a multitude of things on the basketball court coming off your bench. When I played, you had somebody that he's only a guy that can shoot in the corner. That's it.

Like you just stationary pieces. Now you can interchange with these type of players that's playing the game today. I like how you said that. Would you think your game, obviously you could score in bunches, you could score any these type of players that that's playing the game today. I like how you said that. Would you think your game obviously you could score in bunches you can score any kind of way you think your game would have translated better now than it did back then? I mean, yeah. Come on T. No, I mean you have it. So you probably would have averaged 40. I'm not going to be arrogant and say 40 In my mind, yeah, I feel like I can score 40. I mean, realistically, I think I...

Shea averaged 32 this year in a wide open league, wide open game. I averaged 32 when that shit was tight. Score was 78 to 80. You see what I'm saying? And only shot like four or five threes. Put me in today's game where I can shoot eight to ten threes and I'm going to get to the free throw line because I'm going to get to my spots.

That's definitely a 40 piece. Yeah, that might be a 40 piece. And you had that mid-range. I remember when we was in Atlanta, you used to shoot the middie. You used to, like, yeah, you probably average 40. I'm thinking about it like 32 back there, you probably going to average 40. I'm thinking about it like 32 back there. You probably go average. I mean, it's an easy game now, bro. Defensively, like, nah, I didn't want to try to add the physicality to it, but if you can't touch me when I got the ball in my spot, like you got to back up and give me, nah, I'ma shoot right up. I ain't even got to put the ball

on the floor. I'ma shoot right up. I ain't even gotta put the ball on the floor. I'ma shoot right in your face. People don't realize how tall you are. Yeah, you like 6'10". Nah. In no way. Unless you've got some heels on. Y'all know they had me guard him one time when he was in Detroit. Did you lock his shit up?

Hell no. He went straight to the block. They like just pick you. LD, pick him up full court. Smart man, I could move really. Nah, you didn't, you said. I got out the game all quick as shit. So the game, who y'all got?

Who y'all got in the game? Pacers. Okay, see. Pacers. I want the Pacers to win now. Is that the bias answer, you from Indiana? Yes, sir. He's a God-hard Pacer fan. My phone. Why? Tell me why they gonna win. Why we gonna win? I want the Pacers to win now. Is that the biased answer? You from Indiana? Yes, sir.

He's a God-hard Pacer fan. My fool. All right. Why? Tell me why they're going to win. Why are we going to win? How? How are you going to win?

Tell me that. How are we going to win? So when this drops, we'll already be raising the banner, so give me my props. What I liked in game six from Rick Carlisle is the second half when he went away from the full-court pressure and we just got to him in a half-court setting. We doubled a lot heavier Congested delays. Yeah, it saved our role players because we need everything right here We don't have the most challenges team, but we play the hardest. Yeah, we can serve some energy make some shots at home

I feel like we can carry that over. Okay, see I Feel if they do it by committee like if the committee struggles Siakam is gonna have to have 35 to 40 points, right? So he can be in the game and then the committee can add to that. But if Siakam hovers around the 15 or 20, everybody else, the other guys gotta be in that same room for them to have a chance to win this. But I got a prediction, I think because game six was so subpar by Shay and Jaylen, I think they're gonna have a Kyrie LeBron type moment

in game seven. I feel like we gonna have that moment in game seven. Now I don't have too much doubt, but that did scare me. I'm like, we put Belt to ass in game six. Ah, they're going back to OKC, the role players, and game sliders and something. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough fight for sure. But all the pressure on OKC though.

Yeah, no doubt. It is. So that's why Indiana has to hit first. They have to hit second. And it's got to maintain that throughout the whole game. It can't be no slippage where you get down 10, 12, because when that slippage come, no ass might be in trouble. What's your take on Tyrese being a superstar?

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Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. He's not a superstar. I think he's a really good basketball player on a really good basketball team, coached by a really brilliant basketball player on a really good basketball team, coached by a really brilliant basketball mind superstar. He won the championship in Indiana. He deserve a banner and a statue. We're not saying he, huh?

You said a statue? Yeah. Give Tyrese a statue if he win. I disagree with that. Superstar playoff run. He happened to unbelievable playoff run. In this series right here, he's been unbelievable? No. I disagree with that. Superstar playoff run. He had an unbelievable playoff run. In this series right here, he's been unbelievable?

No, I'm just saying his playoff run. His run to get him here. It's been a great run. Yeah. I'm statue worthy. But now we're playing for the chip though. And if I win, I deserve a statue. Even though you're like, even though you're probably

like the fourth or fifth best players in this series? Who? who does Pascal been the best for the Pacers you said the fourth or fifth best player in this series No, he's number two in this series. Yes is Shane Tyrese Pascal now you from Indiana, too It makes sense it makes sense now Ty is a Ty is a rich, you know what's crazy? Ty for him to be so good, I identify him, when I look at Magic Johnson play basketball, I see Tyrese a little bit.

Okay. Well, here's what I mean by that. When you watch Magic play, dominant right hand player, dominant dominant. You don't really see them do too much on his left side of their body. Tyrese is the same way. If you only could be dynamic on the right side and you got two killers that can play both sides all over the court, you think you're going to beat me being dominant on one side? So for him, for Tyrese to be great, Tyrese gonna have to, if you're going to have four points, damn it, you got to accumulate for your team at

least 40 points. That has to be the accumulation. You can't have four points and only accumulate like 12 points for your game. Now, if you want to be a superstar, I'm fine with four points, but give me 15 assists. Give me eight rebounds. That right there to me is like a Jason Kidd. That's having an imprint and you don't have to score that much. But you can't give me four, seven, six. Nah, fam, nah. I respect it.

T-Mack, what I'm banking on, two years ago, they tried to make their jokes about Jaylen Brown and they said his left hand isn't the strongest. We know what he did. He went and got paid and got a chip. They always talk about Tyrese ain't got no left hand, he ain't going left. Cool. They ain't gotta have a left hand to raise that banner up. You killin' shit.

Speaking of Jaylen Brown, I know that's like your little brother. Who reminds you of you in the league right now? Like me, only person I really see that kind of remind me of you is like Kevin Durant. The way y'all scored the ball is really kind of similar. That's that's that's really it. I mean, it ain't too many. I used to think Paul George, but then when I watched P.J., I kind of a little different, but you and Katie, you do the rocker hang dribble pull up.

Why? Why? Why? P.J., you what? KD y'all do the rocker hang dribble pull up what why why why PG what he was a little more like pin down I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. You're right.

But speaking of comparison, some of the youngsters coming up, I've seen a lot of people do a lot of comparisons for Ace Bailey to say, you know, best case scenario, he could be a really, he could be close to Tracy McGrady. How you feel about that? I like the Bailey's game. I actually went and see him play this year. Kid has tremendous upside smooth about six six seven six eight got a nice shot Tough shot maker you got to be a tough shot maker if you want to be compared to me

You got to be able to make tough shots And I think he he's gonna be able to develop in that Creativity off the dribble needs to get better, but he has the potential most definitely obviously We know you went straight out of high school to the league. With the NIL situation now, we know you do a lot of mentoring around these kids. What's the advice that you give them now, where you can possibly make more money

going back to school than being a first round pick? You saying what would I do? I know what you would do. What advice would you give the youngest? Man, honestly, I think you gotta have people around you that understands finances. You know what I mean? Because given high school kids,

you know, two, five million dollars, that's tough to have for them on their mental. I was 18 years old coming out of high school, signed a $12 million deal, but I still kept my drive. Like I didn't let that affect where I wanted to go with my game. And I think a lot of these kids now, man, I'm hearing them, it's like,

they feel like they made it when they get their money, bro. It takes a little bit of that drive away. And I don't think these kids have that same type of drive or, you know, enthusiasm to reach the highest level of basketball within themselves, you know what I'm saying? When they get this money, I think they lose a little bit of that.

And it's strong and important that they have people around them that can understand the money and what to do with it, but also keep them level-headed and keep them focused on the task at hand. And that's improving as a basketball player because you're nowhere near where you're gonna be in five to 10 years. Most definitely.

And you talk about this all the time because T is a coach right now. The NIO, it looks good, but it could stunt your growth. You get this money now, you could jeopardize the money later. But it's crazy how y'all talk about it as professionals, but they take advice from other people who ain't even got to that level yet.

Yeah, it's like they forget the main thing. Like the goal is to make it to the NBA. Like, that's the goal. I tell all the kids that I come in contact with, like, OK, you can get this money. That's great. You can help your family right now. But the goal is to make it to the league like two million dollars. Believe it or not, it go kind of quick. It's not a lot.

I used to think people was crazy when they said that I'm like 2 million dollars. You crazy. I'd be good for life. But in that world, it goes kind of quick. You're trying to keep up with the Joneses. Yeah, then when you run out your money, then your family looking at you like what's next? Yeah, you don't fuck your whole self up and your career. So I get it.

Yeah, that'd be the first thing is they take care of everybody else with that money. They stressed out and they don't get no more money. It's scary, man. It's a scary situation. You know what I mean? Because these guys are so fragile and it's glorified on social media.

So that's all they see. Yeah. They're consuming all this information via social media. And they think, damn, I'm getting this money. Like I got a lot of money in my pocket. I'm rich now. Nah, bro. You ain't nowhere near that.

You could blow that shit to them tomorrow. Most definitely. Now you're talking about you came into the league at 18. You know what I'm saying? Got you some chicken. We know you're responsible. But what was your first like wild out purchase? It was like, all right, I'm on that today.

My first wild out purchase was like, all right, I'm on that today. My first wild out purchase. Honestly, my wife, like because listen, I don't look back. I'm not. Let me explain. All right.

Let me explain. Let me explain. So I'm crazy. Because when you married. Yeah. Yeah. You broke bread. Yeah. You broke bread. So I always wanted a Lexus Land Cruiser, bro. So when I graduated high school, I drove to the States, and I was like, I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like,

I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like, I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like, I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like, I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like,

I'm gonna get a Lexus Land Cruiser. And I was like, I'm gonna get about Lexus Land Cruiser. Okay. So I always wanted a Lexus Land Cruiser, bro. So when I graduated high school, I drove to Raleigh because that's, I was in Durham, North Carolina. I drove to Raleigh. I'm at the Lexus dealership looking to get my Land Cruiser. I see this female that's the receptionist. I was like, damn. So I had to go talk to her, to see what's up.

After that, this is the time where before the draft, I'm driving, I'm going around touring all my teams. Man, so I got connected with her. The bulls are playing, we go to dinner, watching the NBA finals. I felt like this is gonna be my wife, bro. I'm traveling from city to city, calling her on the flight, on my flight, checking in.

That's when they had phones on the plane, so I'm swiping my credit card, calling this woman. This was 1997, fam. It's what, 2025? Still married. That's five. Four years later. So yeah, my host is great. Great investment.

Yeah, y'all can make some noise for that. The best. Love, love. Great investment. The best. Great investment. married as far as later so yet so those great investors right investments my way him 97 and 97 dog how old was we 10 97 how old are you I'm 37 97 I was seven yeah I was a teen now I gotta question. Did you still buy the car? I still bought the car. Yeah. Yeah. Where is it now? Oh, I saw it. Probably crushed somewhere in the great in the junk yards. I wanted to ask you, did you ever have any one on one matchups? Nah, never. Nah, we didn't. What? Tell me about your one on one lead man? How that's so I started my one-on-one lead in 2022 and It's really just based off of my story and how I got to where you know, I ended up being 1996

Junior high school one of the best players in Central Florida. No one really knew about me and and outside of my region Yeah, this guy from Adidas comes to my high school and he has a camp that wants me to attend this camp. I go to ABCD, we all know about the ABCD camp, Lamar Odom, top high school players. I make a name for myself on this platform, right? It's not that anything changed about me. It's just a platform that I got on and it created some buzz for me. I ended up being the number one player in the country.

Well, for these kids out here that is being overlooked, probably had some turbulent times on their journey to play basketball. Who knows? Somebody in the family probably died. He had to step up as a man and take care of the family. You just don't know what their role was for these cats. I wanted to create a platform for those type of dudes that get overlooked.

And one-on-one basketball is not for everybody. There's a lot of talent out there, Jeff. You know, there's some cats on your block where you come from. Nice as hell at one-on-one. So, and to me, we all grew up playing one-on-one basketball. That's the pure essence of our sport. So, creating that foundation for these guys, that platform, I want to create stars

through one-on-one basketball. And that's what OBL is really about, just really giving guys another chance, giving them a hope to live out their dreams Because we are come from places like such as such could have made it but such as such could have did this but So for somebody else have another outlet Maybe not the most traditional rock you never know what they got going on But a chance to make it to feed a family some basketball. That's always a good look. So check us out

Oh BL started a YouTube channel week. We're going on five part series right now We got four episodes out, and you can see what I'm doing with these guys, man. I think they appreciate that. We need to come commentate one of them, bro. Y'all come do it, bro. I love that. I wanna come commentate one.

Let's come out here and act a fool. My next one. I'm for real. You pull up. All right. Don't wax. I love that. Most definitely, man.

Make some noise for T-Mac one time for the one time. Mac. Wear them drawers, Mac. Them real size, boy. And they ain't thin. And that little pouch. Can I walk around the beach with them? Walk around the beach?

Well, that's on you. Standing there. No shirt on, just these, just the drawers. Oh, you out of pocket. I don't know. Respect, man. Y'all just talking about wearing them boxes for show, man. One time, it was mobile.

Y'all keep doing your thing. We appreciate y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Give it up, give it up, give it up again for show, man. What's up with Boots Mobile? Y'all keep doing your thing. We appreciate y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give it up. Give it up. Give it up again for Club 520. Yeah.

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