Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Trevor Jackson on being CHILDHOOD STAR, hooping w/ Chris Brown, DREAM roles

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 19 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Trevor Jackson, where he talks about being a childhood star at the age of eight, from being... in ‘The Lion King’ on Broadway to being in shows like ‘Grey’s Anatomy’ today. Trevor also talks about his dream role being to be in a Marvel or DC Movie, talks about growing up in Indianapolis, and playing basketball with Chris Brown.Timeline:1:50 - Episode Start3:00 - Growing up in Indy4:30 - Head of Household6:15 - Not built for school system8:15 - Being a child star15:00 - "Superfly" movie17:30 - Meeting fans19:30 - "Burning Sands" was most difficult role22:00 - Dream roles25:00 - Making new music26:30 - Indianapolis Colts28:00 - Carl Lewis national anthem30:30 - Difficulties of performing32:00 - Acting on TV shows38:00 - Black sitcoms40:15 - Favorite childhood TV shows41:15 - Family Guy42:15 - Playing basketballAll lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 We got a guest in the building, but as usual, we're going to introduce him left to my far left. We got my dog, bheeing out the pearlies. How you what, nasty? Cool, and actually, let's get to it, man. Got a hometown hero in the building. Come on, man. This is our music guy right here, man. So we're going to see what's going on for sure.
Starting point is 00:03:23 To my right, we got my dog, young Nacho, young Teague. How you what? Chillin, man, like he said. Hometown Hero in the building It's about to be lit. Come on, man. I had my nephew flashing back. Oh, movies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I said, okay. So I remember you're from Lion King. He said, man, you don't sit your grown-in' ass, man. For sure, man, listen, man, we got a nap-town legend in the building. Big getting to it since he was a younger, man. You can see him on the screen. You can hear the music all the above, man.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The superstar, Mr. Trevor Jackson, Big God. What are you, man? Y'all nap-tance is a good. What's happened? What's happened? Be here, man. I want to just say, man. I want to just say, too, on camera and just to y'all,
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm proud of y'all, too, man. This is amazing what you guys have built, and everybody knows the show. And just congratulations for building something amazing. Reping the city, right? Love, man, for show. On some Nap Town shit, man. What's how I town you from, man?
Starting point is 00:04:08 Where'd you go to high school at? So I left before high school. Okay. But my brother went to Paramaridian. I went to Abraham Lincoln Elementary. But, like, when I was like eight or nine, that's when I started, like, moving around and touring and working and stuff. But my family's from Marion.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And then I got family in, like, Greenwood area. Oh, okay. You were a little bit all over the city. Yeah, exactly, exactly. What's that like to start working at a young age like that? You know what? I'm super thankful for at the time not putting too much weight on it. I was just doing what I had fun doing.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You know, I wasn't like, eight, like, man, I got to do this because I got a chance. I was just like, yo, this is fun to do. Right? And it just so happens that transforms, like, you know, what you want to do. But then as you get old, do you learn why you want to do it. And so, yeah, man, it was dope being that young. And I just, I went through the training process that I feel like people go to school years and years to get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Because I was working with so many talented people, you know, people that came from out of the Ailey or came from the best music school or whatever. And I was just, you know, always around greatness. So, yeah, it was an honor for sure. Now, we ain't going to get too far into it. But, you know what I'm saying? I've ever run a joke in this podcast. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:11 You was making that chicken. Now, these two gentlemen go back and forth for this. At that point, if I'm the kid making a chicken, this is my house. Yeah. Oh, y'all go, you go, you're going to pull a trim into that. Wait, yeah, no, what's the question? What's up? Weird here?
Starting point is 00:05:23 How's that conversation, you know what I'm saying? The rinse holder, dad is like, all right, now, I'm making the bread now. Yeah. Be here and say, you know what I'm saying? If I make the bread, this is my house. Yeah. I think it's a village, man, for me. I'd be nothing without my mom, my brother, my family, my support system.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And nothing really feels good if you can't share it. You know what I'm saying? I always think about, even this is how I knew what type of person I was, anytime I have anything that's, like, delicious, like food-wise, I want to share it. I'm like, yo, you got to try, right? And that's the same with money or that's the same with, you know, anything in life. I want to share good things and watch people that I love, enjoy those things. So is it my house, sure, but it's our house.
Starting point is 00:06:00 You know, it's a house that we help build, and I'm never that person. I've never been that person I can ever be, you know, but there are, you know, guidelines and boundaries that I think, as long as people respect each other. So if you wanted to have a party, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm throwing a party. How old am I? 13. No, no, no, no, no. I still think a kid as a kid as a kid, even if he's making all the money, a kid is a kid.
Starting point is 00:06:22 There we go. I don't think a kid should make any grown person decisions, right? I love that. 17. Yeah, 17. I'd rather 18. But 17, I think I would fight for it. But if my dad was like, no, I'd be like, yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You know what I'm saying? I'm like, whatever, dad. I'll make the money so I can die. No. Nah, you know. Like, no, d'nagin you take the train. I'm going to get Steve to come up here. Put his hands on you, then.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Oh, you're going to get Steve, huh? Oh, okay. No, Mr. Smith. It was like growing up. What's that lie? You know what I'm having to go to school work, but you like on TV. Yeah, it was- You still got to do chores, but I'm on TV.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I hated it, dude. School, and I don't think it was because I was on TV. I just, I don't think I was built for the school system. You know what I'm saying? I think a lot of people weren't built for the school system. It's a thing that builds employees and not bosses and entrepreneurs, and we all know the world is, a lot of it has been a lie, right? Especially in the school system.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So I hated it because I just felt like I was being forced to do things that I didn't love. I was being forced to do things that didn't peak my interest. And I knew I could do the things that they were asking me. You know? So, like, if a teacher comes like, hey, give me six essays, I'm like, I'll give you one essay and it's going to be a fire essay. But I'm not going to give you six of them because, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I hated school, though. I got to say, it sounds like that you didn't like school at all? I hated it. I hated it, bro. I hate you. If you could tell your professor, hey, six days, I got one. I got one. I got a trouble for it, but I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I mean, I'd rather draw a picture or something, you know what age did you know you want to become, like, in this entertainment world? I was like eight. I knew it was what I was meant to do when I was eight because I was doing the Lion King, the Broadway show, and I remember I was looking at the front row and everybody was just smiles, right? And I don't know if they were fake smiles or real smiles,
Starting point is 00:08:00 but while I was on stage, people were enjoying life, you know what I'm saying? And I just wanted to do that. I want to bring that. I also, now that I'm older, I want to bring perseverance into that. I feel like when you're young, you're like, oh, this is going to happen, this is going to happen. But once you go through the real life stuff, it's the gas in the tank gets low.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And there's a lot of people that have helped me through that. There's a lot of movies that have helped me through that. So I want to create projects and things like that to, you know, when people are at that finish line about to give up. Hey, man, keep going. Hey, man, keep going. One more step. And that's kind of what I want to be remembered, you know, as and what I want to represent.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Because so many people, bro. My grandfather died last, no, it was this year. My grandfather died this year. But around the same time, the Superman movie came out. And I was like down and I was sad, but I went to see it. And I was like, I got to keep going. You know what I'm saying? I could break down, you know, but.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So things like that I want to be a part of I'm fine Sorry, we're lost Thanks I appreciate that I appreciate that What's that like
Starting point is 00:08:56 On stage A year's old And like you're really getting your shit off But like Like you really Like what's that moment Like you young
Starting point is 00:09:04 But did you realize That moment Was that crazy Or did you have to get older Realize like I had to get older I had to get older At that point
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah Yeah it was huge And at the time I think too That's why I feel like I've been able To do what I've done Because I don't
Starting point is 00:09:16 I try not to put too much pressure on the moment. Yeah. Whenever I do that, I, like, try to zoom out. And I remember the feelings when I'm on a plane or I remember those images you've seen on Instagram, like, this is the universe. And you pull up, this is the galaxy, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's like, yo, you know, we can create how we feel about something because, you know, we don't really know much. So it's like, I don't know. Man. Did you have, like, homeboys or anything, like, at that age? Like, I had, yeah, so people that were in it as well. So, like, Lion King, because it was child labor laws,
Starting point is 00:09:47 you had to have two cents, two dollars. So there was girls and boys, we were young, so we'd be, you know, doing school. So it would be like the first, from 11 to 4 we had school, have an hour break, then you have the show. You'd work the first hour of the show, you're on stage, the whole hour, and then the second hour you're sitting backstage doing more school work. Then you probably get out of the theater around 11 p.m. You're on a high from the show, yeah. Do that eight times a week. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I did that for three years. I'm cool. For three years. You did that for three years? I did that for three and a half years from eight years from eight years old to 11. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he was meant to do this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You're really working. That's a real job. No, real job, yeah. Yeah, I'm cool. At eight, I was watching pro wrestling. This is all that one, New York. No, this was a tour, so it's the same Broadway show everywhere. So it's like I did two years on the East Coast on the week.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Then I did a year on the West Coast. No. I think anything anybody wants to do, they can do, you know what I'm saying? That's right. The moment they told me, hey, you got to go back out there. I've been like, could. But you, hey, you really don't know, for real. I knew.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And it was lit. My dad used to make us play basketball the whole time. Yeah, but she was playing basketball. I want to go on that slide over there. You played basketball at the same park. He didn't take you to Chicago, L.A. You don't know the difference. How do it's a different city, dig.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The weather's different. Nah, you don't know. He said he's not outside of eight. He's not outside. By the time he was 10, it was probably groovy. He's going to go to Toys R Us, that's it. He's like, he didn't hear. Can we talk about Toys R Us?
Starting point is 00:11:13 Hey, that's one thing I can be super thankful. My mom, she always made. made sure I was a kid, too, you know, and allowed me to, I was a skateboarder. I was heavy skateboard, and I played ball, too, but those are, like, my two things. And at one point, she kind of was like, because I started getting more and more into skating. And people were like, hey, man, this kid's like, can skateboard, like, what should we do? And she kind of, like, sat me now's like, you have to make a choice now because I want you to do what you really want. Do you want to skate?
Starting point is 00:11:36 You want to, you know, do the other thing? And I was like, I want to do the other thing. But I love skating, you know what I mean? Shout out. Yeah, she's a great mom. Shout out. Speaking of that, how did you balance, like, I know you said your mom let you be a kid, but I'm sure when you got older, it got harder for you to do.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, how did you maintain your outside life and your entertainment life? There's no rulebook on that, you know, kind of trial and error, trial and error, you feel me? But, again, I always stay true to, I think, what I wanted to do. I never felt enclosed or trapped by anything. And I think living that way promotes happiness, it promotes peace and kind of, you know, you're just in a better space but I feel like people who feel like they're in a cage whether it's their job or whether it's
Starting point is 00:12:17 oh I got to wear this or I got to do this just people conform you know what I'm saying all the time because they just want to like you know but I've never been able to do that and I think that's been a big impact on my work you know what I mean cool cool cool
Starting point is 00:12:30 when did you start fucking with them girls boy I don't want to real I was a hell of prison maybe I'm trying to think I'm like man five four five I was getting in Troubles like Trebers.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You being so lit. I'm like, shit, how do you know how to pick them? Hey, man, it's hard. I think especially in entertainment in any form, you know, whether it's sports or acting or music. And especially the time that we are living in is a lot of people are just hypocrites. And the biggest sense of the word, it's like the girl that says she doesn't want the guy is the same girl that's listening to the music that promotes and creates guys like that. You know what I'm saying? It's like we kind of live in.
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Starting point is 00:13:22 In what you're saying Just stay out of this Yeah Yeah you saw me See out of it Because you know what the clip's gonna say Turnpjection said Women aren't accountable
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm gonna do DJ hate women Don't worry about That's the thing We got to go on the show I said I was going to end that He does it He loves it
Starting point is 00:13:40 He always says he's going to end it But it always says it the next episode That is hilarious Yeah, you got a chico Because you can sing too Yeah, you was probably wilding man I respect it It's funny though
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know, we all have that time Where you wasn't, you know It wasn't working I feel like from like age 12 to like 16 I was you know Come on pick me Why not
Starting point is 00:14:01 You know what I mean Like maybe if I do it run You know sing real quick Then you don't get no hose That's crazy Damn Trey You went to a four year span I mean
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, that was, hey, bro. You were on Disney. You were supposed to be out. No, you're keeping it on PG for the cameras. I'm just talking about you. No, this ain't that. This ain't Disney. No, but you know what I mean, like the one you wanted, maybe.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, there it is. I was eating, girl, but, you know, the one you wanted. No, I got it. 12, 16? Yeah, all every girl, I like, I got it. Tread, that's four years. You, you, you, you, him at that point. You started at eight.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You don't take you eight years of figure out. It went from, it went from, it went from, Okay, let's put it this way It went from He ain't getting a hugs It's crazy It went for me Trying to
Starting point is 00:14:50 To get the girl I wanted to me Not having to try Maybe that's a better A way of doing it's like I'd be like Oh, I really want that And yo, it was more Maybe performative
Starting point is 00:14:59 Or maybe I tried harder And then something turned Where it was like You know, you don't have to do much No, I'm just fucking with you really You're like, hey, how's it going? And that's it. Oh, damn
Starting point is 00:15:09 My boy is locked I had that, yeah, I didn't get the, hey, what's it? Yes, huh? You've had that before. No, I still had to be like, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Man, he don't know with that. That's super flawed, ain't me? He's like, you ain't got to say that, just. Oh, boy. It's like, that's how they walk up. Right here. That's how he's like him to walk. That's how he's down.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. Respect. While we're here. Man, you know. had some roles. You did a lot of different things, but Superfly? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 How was it like being the main man in the movie? Ed. That movie. That was an honor, dude. I was 20 years old when I did that.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I was a baiting. You know? It was really a dream come true. I grew up watching The Matrix. I grew up watching Blade. So wearing a long leather jacket and whipping ass was a dream of mine that came true working on that project.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And my dad, I remember when I was like seven or eight years old, he made me watch that movie, the old one. Yeah. I was like, why is he so excited for me to watch this? But I just saw a lot of joy in his face.
Starting point is 00:16:10 and happiness and it meant something to him even if at that age I didn't know what it meant so when I was auditioning they actually didn't want me to play the lead they want me to play
Starting point is 00:16:18 the bad guy the leader of Snow Patrol and I was like one of the first times I went into an audition and was like I don't want to do this I want to be the dude
Starting point is 00:16:25 and they're like well you know maybe here's the side and go and you can come back and read and that's kind of how that went down um
Starting point is 00:16:32 yeah dude that was a dream come true honestly that's fire for Popston don't send to be tapped in with the original how did you tell him that you got the roll
Starting point is 00:16:38 uh called him but then when we were at the premiere, me and him had an awesome moment where we were watching it. And it was probably like my first time really watching, you know, because when you do something, you don't really want to look at it. You're like, ah, you know, you've done all these premiere screenings. I don't want to see it. But for some reason, my dad was there.
Starting point is 00:16:53 We both were watching. And then we looked at each other and we laughed like 20 minutes, like throughout the whole thing just because we could not believe what was happening. It's like, yo, he's just like, what? I'm like, what? It's crazy, right? It's a special moment for sure. Hell of a movie, man.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Thank you, bro. You was a pimp. That new karate. They say some people are method actors How did you get in that bad? I've already done martial arts for a long time Since I was like, yeah, 10 So that part wasn't the more difficult part
Starting point is 00:17:18 But I think just Yeah, just trying to find a new person A new character It's funny because a lot of people who met me After that were like, oh, you don't talk like that Or A, man, I'm like, no guys Don't talk like that at all It's a character
Starting point is 00:17:30 I was playing somebody else Or, you know, I have people really try And make plays with me also After seeing the movie I'm like, guys, I don't This isn't some of my profession. I don't... You know, Nicky, you priest, tap me in.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I was at the bowling alley, and the dude walked up in front. He's like, yo, you should see what I got in the trunk and got some stuff. I said, uh-huh? Buddy, I'm trying to bowl, man. Thank you, though. Appreciate the love. God. God bless.
Starting point is 00:17:53 God bless. God bless. We got... That thing that thing don't talk like that. For real. For real. You ain't got the... Where is the Zah?
Starting point is 00:18:05 Because we got... We usually have a bartender on our show. She would drive all the way to Mexico, so here that door, she'd probably... No, for sure. Dang. Shout to board. She would have been great in that movie, for sure. 1,000%.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Hell of a runner. But that is hilarious, though, because we all judge, not judge people, but we all assume people are that character. Yeah, for real. And certain people, no matter what they do, they're going to be that character. I told you. From tired of how they did, Tyreek at that ludicrous game, I felt bad for buddy. I said, oh, no, TV is real.
Starting point is 00:18:33 TV is real. People would really be locked in to that shit, for real. I'd be like, guys, it's a job. Is that the only time that you ever been approached like that? About a road? No, I get approached about a lot of stuff. When I was doing Gronish, why do you do Zoe like that? I get that all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm like, guys, it was in the script. I did my job. If I was creating Gronish, I'd be making a lot more money. That's got to be a good feeling, though. You did your jobs or whatever? People were, like, bought in like that. Yeah, yeah. I'm super thankful, man.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I love fan interactions. I was a fan first. Before I was an artist, I'm obsessed with movies. I'm obsessed with TV shows. I'm obsessed with artists. So I really understand what it's like to be on the other side. So whenever I meet a fan or a person, I always try to give them all my attention, all my love,
Starting point is 00:19:13 because I know how impacted I was when I was, you know, meeting somebody that I looked up to. You can really change the course of somebody's life with one word, with one high, with one hug. So when I see these artists and people out here being rude and I can't stand there. That's like, you didn't ask me, but that's one pet peeve? I'm just like, why, bro? Why put the cape on if you don't want to be Superman?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like, what makes sense? 100%. I want to ask you this. Did you catch life like or any, flag for being in Bernardson? Oh yeah, a bunch of flag. Yeah, I remember that movie came out. The Greek community was very upset about it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, they were very mad. Here's how I look at that, though. If I were to make a movie about a basketball player who did steroids, it doesn't mean every basketball player does steroids, but this particular person did steroids. And we were kind of showing, you know, how people can abuse power, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 That happens in every level of life, I think. Yeah. And anybody who does that should be, you know, exposed. Listen, man, the NBA is heating up, and you know what that means, you got buckets, bets, and big wins every single night. Tap in with Hard Rock Bet, the home for hoop heads all season long.
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Starting point is 00:24:53 get your podcast. Brought to you by Liberty Mutual Insurance. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty. That's it, man. Was it one of the hardest roads you to play? Burning Sands, I think, was one of the hardest ones. I think that's the deepest I've gone into something, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:10 where I didn't really feel like me. Yeah. You know, it was just a process that I tried to make even harder than it already was. I just tried to not get sleep. I just tried to, you know, put myself in that space. So that was difficult. And then also I did a Broadway, New York City Center on Broadway. They have this, like, weak thing where they bring back super old plays,
Starting point is 00:25:31 and they bring it back to Broadway for, like, maybe a week, and I did the tap dance kid, and that was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Yeah, man, tapping for two hours, learning 11 different songs, it was insane. Damn. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, it was nuts.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It was nuts. How do you, like, get out of that character? Like, how long does it take you to get out of that mode? We talked to a couple other actors, and they was like, man, it took me three months to get out of it. Columbia Shore couldn't get out of it. Yeah, he's still there. Shout to brother.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Nah, he good now. Shout to Columbia. We talked to Columbia. That's game. I love game. I like the boo-boo-boo. y'all had that for a look that stock kicks man don't said you what
Starting point is 00:26:06 chap in I bet for sure he's good I'll fuck with Trim already how long how long do we you said do we come out of the camera
Starting point is 00:26:13 I think me shit oh y'all Hey me dude I'm just trying to think maybe Burning Sands is maybe a week or so Okay
Starting point is 00:26:29 But also I don't I don't give too And I also haven't had a role where I've had to go that crazy, you know what I'm saying? Okay. I like when people change the voice. I like when people change the walk. I haven't had to do that yet.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I would like to for a project. So who knows if I go that deep into a row how long it would take. But so far it hasn't been too crazy for me. What's a row that you wanted or almost had that you didn't get with what's a row that you didn't, you was nothing on, it'll be in cool? Sorry, say one more time. What's one row you passed on? Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It was something wrong that you were like, dang, I was trying to get it. It didn't work out, but it would be something crazy. There's, bro, pretty much everything you've seen with a black guy my age I'd probably have to be. You know what I'm saying? Snowfar, I remember I auditioned for like eight times. I got casted by sorry, I'm spacing my friend.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Snowfall, what, what's role was you going in for snowfall? The main dude. They used to be frankly the same? Yeah, John Singleton casted me and then he took the cast that he casted to network and they were like, recast the whole thing in the new castes. So that would have been fun,
Starting point is 00:27:30 but I think everything happens for a reason. I think dancing is a beast, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, facts. And that's how it works. And that's why I do love this industry for some reason that people may hate it, but I just think everything is meant for who it's meant for, you know what I'm saying? And it goes the way it's supposed to go, so I'm super thankful. Every time I feel like I really wanted something, it didn't work out, it made sense that it didn't happen for me.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Right. And even outside of entertainment in life, whether that's a relationship or a car or a place I've decided to move, but I really wanted that. And it just works up. Yeah, you got to trust the plan for sure. Be we're supposed to be. Our producer is a jerk because he put in Black Panther. Did you see that, Jeff? I don't think that he auditioned to be Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:28:08 That is crazy. He said all black movie. He went to Black Panther. Yeah, that's messed up. Respect. Now. But a dream role is anything Marvel, anything DC. That's my dream.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I'm a nerd, man. I'm obsessed with all of those characters and stories. And I want to play one bad. DJ, no. They ain't type men for the Green Laner reboot. I'm a little sad. No, they already got them. Yeah, it's going to be hard, though.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It could have that thing with you. I'm moving to the home team. Yeah, I appreciate it. I want to do an older Miles Morales. That's, I want to do a Super Surfer. I want to do a Blue Marvel maybe or a Batman, the Black Batman. I ain't going to lie. It's like you talking about ice cream, nigga.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Just now? He started out of Super Ice cream. I love it. I'm like, some ice cream. We got to get you some comic books, man. I ain't got none of those. I ain't tapped it. No, you get one of the roles.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You're good for life. Yeah, for real. The reoccurring roles for ever. But also, I'm a fan of those. I feel like a lot of people are like, those are great actors and they put them in those. But I've watched those every single Marvel movie that comes out, every single DC movie.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm front road, dog. So to have someone that passionate about it, too, play it. He said, Blade, yeah, that Blade movie ain't never coming out. I don't believe him. I'd love to play Blade, too. Son of Blade? Come on. Son of Blade would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Come on. You already got to, you know what I'm saying? I already got a Pimp jacket on and the kid. Makes you good. Blade is, oh, boy, ain't it? Westis Night. I ain't never seen Blood. I ain't.
Starting point is 00:29:37 What was that? I ain't never seen it. Any of them? The first couple of Blades is fire. Hey, I'm really the wrong person. He don't watch movies. We're just talking about the black superhero that brought Marvel to the forefront. That was Blade right before Marvel Endgame.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You seen Endgame, Infinity War? Yeah. All right, bro. Fantastic for her. I'll watch her as that. Okay, okay. He said, dude, I see Fantastic Four. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Which one? I don't watch scripted stuff. Uh, volume. No. Fantastic. I've seen like volume 37. 37. You know what Fantastic for I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Volume 37. The real fantastic. You know what being this one? Home DVD. Straight to the ass. You can get this on your local. He's professional, bro. We can't do that.
Starting point is 00:30:28 He's cool, Trave from the Tennessee. Just the bootleg version of the film. It's a bootleg of a type of film, you know what I'm saying? You guys, not going to be showing you. You got to set your camera up just like that. That how I got set up. Talk to us about the music, though, man. Who you want to work with?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Oh, man, I want to work with everybody, dog. I'm open. I like being inspired, so, you know, new energy, new music. It's always fun. But I just dropped an album. It's called I Love You Goodbye, the greatest breakup album of all time. I'm super, super proud of this project. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on record.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So you talk to you. And it saved my... So you're toxic. Not me. It's not me. No, nobody's toxic. It just didn't work out. Respect,
Starting point is 00:31:09 but... You know what I'm saying? But I'm super just thankful because I was in a dark spot, bro. I toured my Achilles. Hey. I was... After the breakup, two weeks, I toured my Achilles. And then I had to come back to L.A.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I was in a cast for like a week. Yeah. And I had surgery. But yeah, within like the first two weeks after I got back, I made the album. And it just helped me a lot. And so again, what I was talking about before how I just want to help people through those times
Starting point is 00:31:35 That's what this album is You're going through a breakup, press play on this You'll hear a record, you'll understand You'll connect with something And that's what I want to do Is just be honest about my journey and share it Because I remember seeing you on them remixes You was a wild man
Starting point is 00:31:49 Oh yeah One boy trying to tap in I'd just be doing my thing man Now listen we love RB music I'd ask if you ever made a song And then you got a call from somebody about it No no I was never be that specific
Starting point is 00:32:01 I'm saying They won't be a little cop They won't know who it is I'm saying I want him to wonder 8 and 12 They're good now I bet you think this song
Starting point is 00:32:13 Is about you Now are you a real coach Are you just rapping a jacket Hey man I'm from Indiana I'm a Colts fan You know what I'm saying Now do I watch the Colts play No I don't watch the play
Starting point is 00:32:23 Every single time they play But I'm from Indiana You're going to the game Yeah I'm going to the game Now I got to ask You got big duties at the game You know what I'm saying? National Anthem
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah Oh yeah Is there any pressure In the situation Like singing amongst that MEP? I know you've been on Big stages Yeah, I just performed it to the sofa
Starting point is 00:32:39 So that was That was the most people I've ever sang in front of 70,000 people That's crazy Lucas oil ain't that many right How many is Lucaso? Probably 50
Starting point is 00:32:47 50,000 So 20,000 lines It's always I'm always I'm always feeling A little pressure though when I perform You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:32:53 I always think your last performance is your matters the most It doesn't matter what you did before So the most important I think he's your last performance. But yeah, it should be fun, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm going to be with my family, people that I love and respect and get to do it for the city. So I'm stoked. I'm hyped to go to that game tonight. It's going to do. We tap into it. The national anthem is always funny because everybody's looking at you at that moment. I was like, I know you've been on stage that. I probably that's a little nerve-bring where everybody are really looking at you
Starting point is 00:33:17 because they're just waiting for somebody to mess up. Oh, yeah. No, for sure. Like, what's the old girl? Who? What's that? Fergie. Oh, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah, she has one of the worst national rhythms of all time. She destroyed. Now, who old boy that stopped in the middle of his, like, uh-uh, Carl, uh, what was it? The runner. Winslow? Nah, not, no. Carl, he was a sprinter. You just got to look away.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Wait, we, you got to. He saw my son. I like the Lubu back here. Yeah, he, don't work, bro. He got good. Carl, who? He told me. He was a sprinter, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He sang the national anthem. You're Carl Lewis? Yeah, Carl Lewis. Oh, yeah, the Carl Lewis one is nasty. He had no reason being up to her anyway. He stopped in the middle and said, uh, oh, oh. He forgot the words. Tram, good at tonight, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No, no. No, Tram cool, bro. Now, go ahead, load it up. Ben Carlos was out of the body. He said, I, ah, I, hold on. Hold on. Let me see this is what you're talking about. Man, it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Trem, you been messing with him. I just want to see what he's talking about. I don't think I've ever seen it. Yeah. Hear me out. that dude forgot the words no
Starting point is 00:34:32 he didn't have the words you've never seen that no I'm gonna give him a hug no that's a classic brother
Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm too bad I'm too bad and he's wrong as him for that he's wrong a white man in a mug left that's a classic video first of all I don't know he gets the
Starting point is 00:35:01 the bulls are there bro I didn't know he did that in the presence of Michael Jordan he is really out of pocket before I'm laying to go that outfit is crazy too y'all why the hell what you invite him to go sing that anyway Carl Lewis he's a lip to hear you go there you bro
Starting point is 00:35:14 respect what he said to music or acting? I guess it depends it depends on the role um it depends on the role um it depends
Starting point is 00:35:27 on the role, right? How much the role demands. Yeah. I think music, to me, comes a little bit easier just because I feel like I have more hours in there. You know, you work on a set when you get booked for a job, but I'm in the studio every day. You know what I'm saying? I'm working on music. I'm listening to music. I'm editing a song.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'm going back, rewriting a song. So I'm always in there. So it comes a little easier, for sure. You know, and especially when I have sessions and stuff, like, it'd just be flowing. I absolutely love it. Is there any differences in performing music? And and perform, like, say, a live play or a live action situation?
Starting point is 00:36:01 So, sorry, say one more time. Is there any difference between the two for you? I know, obviously, you're pretty good at what you do, but is there a difference when you're performing your music on stage, or is there a difference when you're, like, doing a live play or something like that? Is there different? A live play.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Oh, okay, okay. Dude, I'm going to be honest. When I'm doing the play was one of the hardest things because it's not just the song, right? You're, like, remember into acting and you're still dancing and you're moving, your breath work and all the... Like, that's just way more difficult. When I'm doing my music, it's my show.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And if I want to take a seat, I'm going to take a seat. If I need some water, I'm like, hold on. You know what I mean? I can do what I want. But if it's someone else's production, I got to do the job. For sure. Ain't no way. We did a commercial here the other day.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And we had 17 takes. I said two words. That's small. That's not that many takes. For eight hours, bro. Ain't no way. We're here for eight hours, bro. I got a lot of time for you, man.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You was elite, man. Hell now. He got it now, bro. He ate. Thanks, bro. He was eight now. I appreciate me. We did that for eight hours.
Starting point is 00:36:59 You weren't complaining a lot. I said, damn. I said, what? I said, what? I said, what? I've been on set for 17 hours, 18 hours. You don't mind. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And it also depends, too. Again, it's like, is it something you really want to do? And that is a difference, too. Like, if we're doing it for, because I've definitely done stuff for money, right? Where I'm like, okay, I just, this ain't really what I want, but I'm going to get a little bag off this. I'm probably going to be looking at the phone a little more. But if it's like, yo, I'm getting to do this thing. You know?
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's a little. bit different. So I guess it just kind of depends on what it is. Yeah, he complained the whole motherfucking day.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I did not. I just asked why I got two words and I got to be here this long. Like, is that I get the angle. No,
Starting point is 00:37:38 because I'm gonna knock my eye. I'm like hove in the booth. Like one take. That's all I need. He said, I gave you what you need. Yeah, I got.
Starting point is 00:37:44 He did only say when he said that I had to think about like damn, you didn't only say two words. I said, what up, bro? Eight hours later.
Starting point is 00:37:52 What up, bro? What up? Bro. I mean, it's no disrespect. I just want to know what is the point of all that time being taken up. Well, that can also be this.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Look, sometimes there's a, because I've also been here, right? So when you're working on a show, so like I'm on Gray's Anatomy right now and you have different directors or grownish, you have different directors. Sometimes they bring a director who maybe, yes, they've done stuff,
Starting point is 00:38:20 but they might not know what they want. And a lot of actors don't like directors like that because you're having me here all day because you don't know what you want. So you're trying to cover your butt by shooting every shot, every angle, all the wides, all the mediums, let me come here, so that in the editing room you have more freedom. But the best directors, to me, the best directors are actors who understand acting and understand what they need and go in there and know the shots that they want. They'd be like, okay, boom, all right, let's move in tighter, boom, okay, let's turn around, boom, okay, and I need one more of this, boom. Instead of people like, oh, back, well, what if we, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Now we got to be here, why are you trying to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I guess it just depends on the person to direct it. No, wine is the best. You know what I mean? Our boy, Juan, he did it. We never did it before. So we're like, bro, if we're only saying this, you know what I mean, minimum
Starting point is 00:39:03 word, why the hell are we here for a whole work? It's a process, man. Came out dope as well. I got to ask. Definitely. Being on a show. Y'all are funny. All three years.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Actually, we love it. We love it. No, yeah, no. It was dope. No. I was like, it was fine. I can't wait to see it. But you wouldn't meet that took us eight hours to do.
Starting point is 00:39:21 No. It was locked the end for me. It was a one-minute video. Literally. I said two words. I loved it. But I just couldn't believe I had to be there that long.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I said, I ain't order shit. I'm a gay nasty. You got to play it? Let me see, let me see. Listen, we appreciate y'all. We'll catch y'all next time. Club 520. We out.
Starting point is 00:39:39 All right, good stuff, y'all. Yo, what's good, bro? He did the same way. Congratulations. Welcome to the family. I left a carry package by your front door, so just go check it out. Let me know what you think.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Peace. Damn, who's pulling up? I ain't order shit. There goes Behins, goes Mines. Yes, sir. Adidas family now. I'm back. We got.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Hey, Club 520. Adidas Kala. Fire, y'all. Out the gate, nasty. The hard and 10. I'm raw. He's raw. Those are hard.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah, they went crazy shots to the dude's family. What's good, boy? Yeah. Welcome to the family, though, my God. And we appreciate your family. Like, this history right here, you know what I'm saying? Y'all deserve it, bro. The first podcast with a shoot.
Starting point is 00:40:25 deal, we're grateful. Let's go, black man. Hey, let's go, right on, right on. The Deidas, man. One time for the one time. Ditas, that's fire. You want some, I'll get you some superstars. Please, yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:40:38 All white. Come on. We'll let you pick your own color. I'll take the all white joints. Oh, yeah, see? He's all classic peri when you see one. Respect. Look, man, they give it hard, so I wear these every day.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Well, those are cool. Those are classic. For sure. He's a good dude, man. What are these right here? These are Yeah, they're bad bunnies Yeah, bad bunnies
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, bad bunnies Yeah, I ain't get the middle of day man Talked Yeah, I got the Tim's on You see me No, I want to No, okay, we're here
Starting point is 00:41:05 Because we're talking About how nasty he is So how many times Are you gonna wear a pair of shoes Like Throughout the week The same pair? Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:15 Oh, however many times I feel like it You know what I mean? I don't have like a rule Room I don't have a rule Sometimes How many times have you
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, I prefer to be barefoot. But if I have to wear, that's the kung fu coming out. If I have to wear shoes, I'll probably wear a Tim or a cro. He took me for a loop with that. I ain't never been stuck on the show. That one. That one got me playing it right there. DJ, what else got?
Starting point is 00:41:44 What is that barefoot? Well, what's that beerfoot? Hey, man, I like to touch the grass. You know what I'm saying? Touch earth. It's like to touch the grass. Because, you know, the bottom of the most tennis shoes is rubber, it disconnect you from the...
Starting point is 00:41:57 It does. We ain't do the signs. It's a science. There's a science behind it, you know? It ain't a conductor. It's a muter. It mutes the electricity in your body. Sorry, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:42:07 He locked there for sure. I'm glad you're with your shoes in here. We appreciate you not coming on to jump barefoot. Trevor, you need your ass with you walking around outside. L.A. with two more fucking feet out. Enough shoes on. You get too little, buddy. They're going to think he's about to go to ski your own
Starting point is 00:42:25 with the show's out They got a final They got to find a fucking For real for him to play in now Barefoot For real For real We know just the guy
Starting point is 00:42:33 He loves being barefoot That's crazy What's it like joining the show With such a heavy cult following Because like I can imagine that fan base As soon as you pop into an episode
Starting point is 00:42:45 They either hate you Or love you But they locked in either way Yeah Thankfully it's been all love And I think I think the most amazing part is the people on that show, man. The cast, the crew, producers, but as people, not just like what they do their job with.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Like, as people, they're warm, they're welcoming, they're supportive. And that's all you want as an actor. You want to feel safe to make choices. You want to feel safe and feel protected. Nobody wants me to look bad here. We all want to win, you feel me? So it's really an honor to be on that show. And for me, coming off, Grownish, and I'm always kind of like particularly about the role.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I picked, right? You know, so I was thankful that I get to play a doctor on TV. And that is what a lot of, you know, young black men will see and be like, oh, I can do that. Also, that's an option as well. I don't have to be a rapper or I don't have to, nothing wrong with any of these things. I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:39 But there's a lot of things that they put with this is, this is what you can do. And this is it right here. So I like to always kind of widen that space for young black men to see. So I'm thankful for it for sure. And we was just talking about this. Like, I mean, obviously these shows is like the stories that our parents are grow up on it. They're going to be on long after we go. Yeah. So to be a part of that lineage is crazy. But do you ever think we'll get to a point
Starting point is 00:43:58 to where we'll have black sitcoms like regularly again? Like we got Martin. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie Fox. Those show like we look up on. Dude, sitcoms in general, though, are kind of like dead. They're kind of dead because people are too sensitive. That's why. You know, I feel like sitcoms are just kind of like families and what families would say in their crib, which families wouldn't say out and, you know, public. But you, it felt like you were in a, you know, being able to watch them through a hole in the wall, and that's why people loved it, you know what I'm saying? But now I think people
Starting point is 00:44:28 are just too, I don't know. But that is true. I mean, I'm trying to think, what's the last sitcom, really, that was like, I mean, I wouldn't count Grownish as a sitcom. That's more like a, would you count like blackish and Grownish as a sitcom? I mean, for this generation, I mean, it would qualify. Right. I don't think it is, but it's not really sitcomy
Starting point is 00:44:45 though, you know what I mean? Like a Martin or like a fresh pants. It's not like a... Yeah, I mean, even something like we were talking about it, like Mike Epps had one, Marlon had one. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But it's just don't get the same traction. But it's not syndicated as well. Like, being on them shows was that shit. But it just molded a lot of us. I don't know, but you being in the industry, I wanted a thing. But, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely think it's a dying art.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I also miss sketch shows, like, other than SNL. Remember when we were young, like all that and all those different, like, and people were seeing kids being super creative. I feel like now it's either like super kiddy stuff or grown stuff. There's not like a in-between. I think that's... Need a living color type thing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:25 That's them they're streaming now, though. You think so? Yeah. I mean, you do do a lot of sketches. Like Drusky and Drusky and all them, Brazy and all them, they kind of... It's not the same, but they give you that same feel. That same feel, that's a good.
Starting point is 00:45:37 The mad TVs of the world. Mad TV! Come on, Bob, you used have a lot of shit. He's looking like a man. He was cold. Quality shit, yeah. For real. All that is top-tier show.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, all that was great. All that was great. Yeah, all that was fire, bro. You guys have a favorite? Favorite childhood show? Favorite childhood. What shit, bro? I mean, one that kind of the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Curz of Carly Dog was one. I used to watch him. Yeah, you got a different TV than me. No, that was all. You didn't watch Curz of Cowley Dog? I don't even know that is. The Purple Dog, you've seen him before, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Curz, yeah. You did say you didn't like TV. No, well, I didn't watch cartoons. I seen him on, like, a graphic TV before. You've seen him, yeah, you seen him. Oh, on a graphic TV. Yeah, I never watched the show. That was one of the shows
Starting point is 00:46:23 The Carton Network That was between the shows You wanted to watch You just kind of like Walk past Oh, it's the long Yeah, exactly I'm gonna go back
Starting point is 00:46:28 I saw a regress though Rugrats is great Bangor Rugrats is classic Chuckie was my guy What's the one of my boy Cartman? Oh
Starting point is 00:46:36 South Park The best show That's where I grew up all South Park South Park What's the other one you said? Oh with Rick and Morty I can't do that
Starting point is 00:46:45 I'm picking Rick and Morty every day I really grew up like watching Martin and shit like that too My brother and me That was my shit my brother and me.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, how you with Mr. Cooper? Yeah, see, them type of shows, bro, we don't... I grew up with him. Even like Malcolm and Eddie, shit like that. Like, man, we don't get that no more, man. I remember Doug, I remember Doug. What's funny? What's the same?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Richie and Morty. Ricky Morty? Ricky Morty. Rick and Morty's dark. You seen that? No. Oh, you got to give it. Just one episode.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Just watch one episode. Got some holographic to you. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. One episode. Not even. 25. It's family guy type humor.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Family guy, but way smarter. Like the concepts that they're talking about in the show is like Not far from what could be happening Today Why we're here? Family Guy or Simpsons? Family Guy My dad would kill me for saying that. My dad loves a Simpsons but I'll go Family Guy.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Family Guy, I like Family Guy. I'm able to get into it quicker than Simpsons. Like if I put a Simpson on, Simpsons episode on, I don't, I'm not really into it by like the middle But Family Guy, like the first two jokes, I'm like, ah, I'm in it, you know, man. They were a while, but the Simpsons have been on a very long time. The family guy got some jokes, bro, that are top tier. That you can't repeat anywhere else. Seth McFawg is a nut.
Starting point is 00:47:49 The American had to press too. Simpsons knew the aliens. They knew all the future stuff. They got everything right. Yeah. That's a fact. Now, earlier that's how you mentioned on you skateboarded, but you hooped as well.
Starting point is 00:47:59 You know what I'm saying? Indian a kid. We got you in the basketball. Who was your game? What's your game? Like, who you got a game after? My brother, I was trying to be like my brother. My brother, Ian Jackson is a hooper.
Starting point is 00:48:08 He's right over there. But he was the first person I ever seen play. My dad made me play. And then I loved it. And that's how I tore my Achilles. So me and basketball, We got to love-hate relationship right now. But I'm going to get back in there.
Starting point is 00:48:19 But I haven't played in two years. I, uh, yeah. You're not playing against any actors or anybody in an entertainment? Yeah, yeah. Played against Chris. I played against all there. I had the game that I had with the BET experience. I had the most points, but nobody talked about that.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I had 26. Chris had 25. Talk about it. But this was back in, I was like 18, 19. Yeah, pop your shit. I'm just saying. We don't see, Chris. We know what somebody.
Starting point is 00:48:41 No, yeah. No, for real. And we played at the BT experience. He found me on the last play. No, I'm just kidding. I'm still hurt. You can tell I'm still mad. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:48:50 It was a great game. They won by a few points. But I didn't get it no love. Trevor had the most points. It was probably playing with the whole thing, 26. Oh, let's talk about it. The only person I really hear to talk about hoop is like Tank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And Jay Valentine. I play with Jay. I play with Jay sometimes. Jake and Hoop. Yeah, he said to call you. Yeah. Jake Hooke. Jake Hooke.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Jake and Hoop. Have you been on R&B Money Podcast? Yeah, okay. So you're going to give this a real answer now. He's in a job. Jake and Hoop. Jack and Hoop. Shout to my boys.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I play 101. What's the score? Me and Jay? Yeah. One-on-one, where we're going to? 11, 13. 11. 11.
Starting point is 00:49:29 18. Okay. 11. 11. 17. Okay. Jake Hoop then. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I miss it, though. I miss it, though. I miss. Tank can't hoot. No, Tank. Tank talk about hoop all the time. He can't. I seen, I seen some footage.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Oh. You know, that's home. I didn't, nah. Coming from you, it's a little different. You call your body said. No, I'm saying. I'm not talking about NBA. Well, I'm just talking about, like, in the entertainment.
Starting point is 00:49:55 When I had my leg, I was one of the best, I think, people entertainment that played basketball. When I was, you know. First team. When I was at your peak. Because right now, obviously, I don't count Davey's because he played college basketball. But, like, Chris Brown was probably the best I seen. Chris Brown? Yeah, I had never seen, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Who? Cuevo, Cuevo got game. He ain't better than Chris, though, but Cuevo can hoop. Oh, no, NLEC chopper can hoop. No. He can't. Better than Chris? Because I've just, I've seen him play more, but I'm a role, Chris, Brown.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I love Chris, but I'm just saying, he can hoop. He got a jumper? NL.E can hoop, bro. He can hoop. He got game. Because sometimes I feel like people were young and athletic, but can he, you know, I just seen him play against, uh, in a referee with Gilly and him. Yeah, he break a game from him.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You think he, Gilly. We're Gile yet. I think Chris might be better than Gilly. Yeah, for sure. Chris Brown is definitely better than Gilly. He can't shoot better. Nah, Gilly can shoot. He can definitely shoot that pill.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So, yeah, I'm trying to start bringing you up in conversation. Come on, man. I'm going to get my leg back. I'll show you. I'll show you. I'll show you. It's mental now, bro. I feel like my leg is back, but mentally I'm not back yet.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah. I'm still hurt. Man, yeah, you ain't hurt in over gym. You know what I'm saying? On the day that I decided stretch. You know, he did the same thing. I did. Oh, for you turn.
Starting point is 00:51:12 This thing acted like you didn't have no health insurance. Oh, shoot. Which one? This one right here. And walked home. How long was your recovery process? Oh, I'm still there. For real?
Starting point is 00:51:20 I ain't finished. But how long would you, how long could you not walk for? I couldn't walk by myself for probably about a month. Oh, I had like five. Did you go to the hospital after it happened? Yeah, and it was so bad. Ask him when he went to the hospital. Oh, I went to the hospital, but my insurance told me, I toured in December, right?
Starting point is 00:51:37 And they was like, yeah. So doctors, for you broke niggas, we don't work right now. So we back in office after the first of the first of you. year. So, you know what I'm saying? I did my own rehab. You know what I'm saying? I was just walking everywhere. Sorry, bro. That sucks. Get insurance, niggins. Go to the doctor. That absolutely
Starting point is 00:51:52 sucks. He's safe to say his ACS still tour. Careful, man. Hey, listen. He was going to the hospital and they tell you that today is crazy. Would be his say, I'm a sham got away. You know how poor you got to be?
Starting point is 00:52:12 It's one cook I hate insurance They still didn't I didn't give a shit I didn't say I'm at all for them I tell they're going to go home somewhere
Starting point is 00:52:23 Take you get your money Right Get out the mug Oh my god Oh man That is hilarious Yeah Getting her
Starting point is 00:52:33 No work racial shit is Dish I'm just going to work I had to shoot Grownish With a peg leg I looked like
Starting point is 00:52:40 Captain Barbosa bro walking through set dude literally I had to shoot we have five episodes left and then I had to go on tour so yeah I still went I still did it and that's something too like I don't care I'm gonna get it done
Starting point is 00:52:53 yeah but it definitely was a hill I had to get over and I was kind of in the lowest point of my life again that's when all this music came and all of it kind of turned me into the person I am now and I would do it a billion times again to to be where I'm at today mentally physically spiritually you know I would turn my Achilles a million times
Starting point is 00:53:12 Because I needed to sit down That's what everybody that knew me was saying They're like Oh, God's just telling me to take a minute It's too fast Yeah, but guy, you could have since on vacation, brother I would have went to a Rubber for a minute
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'm like, we could have figured something else out I'm not about a leg If I needed to sit down, brother You could just sit down I would have done it Oh God Oh, Lord
Starting point is 00:53:33 Y'all are five Listen, we know you were busy man man, what did you got coming up soon for us, brother Hey man, I'm probably going to go on tour Yeah, maybe around April time I'm still on Grey's Anatomy every Thursday Please check that out
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