Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 - Trey Murphy on becoming a LEADER on Pelicans, playing with Zion Williamson, Kyrie vs. SGA

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 38 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Trey Murphy of the New Orleans Pelicans. Trey talks about transferring from Rice to Virginia, getting drafted in the first round of the NBA Draft, and Brandon Ingram becoming a mentor for him in New Orleans. Trey then talks about playing alongside Zion Williamson, becoming a leader on the Pelicans, and debates who is tougher to guard between Kyrie Irving, and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Timeline 0:00 - Start 4:30 - Call from Shaka Smart 12:00 - Working out with Golden State 18:00 - Moment he arrived 26:00 - Toughest NBA cover 32:00 - Dunk contestSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Collaboration, one time for the one time. We got a young killer in the building with us, man. We're going to introduce my man's last. To my far left, we got my dog, Bishop B. Hinn, out the prayer lease. How you doing, Nasty? What's happening, Nasty? Let's get to it, baby. That nigga dog, Bishop E. Hinn, out the prayer lease. How you doing, Nasty? What's happening, Nasty? Let's get to it, baby. That nigga did Jazzy Jeff

one time for the one time. One time for the one time, baby. That's my average. The real ass. I heard that one. One time for the one time. For sure. I ain't gassing.

All black, get it for her. Oh, God. I like this energy from T. We're going to have a good time, for sure. And Trey, your man let you down, man. He's supposed to be in the black forces, man. four. Oh, God. I like this energy from T. We're going to have a good pod for sure. Trey, a man lets you down, man. He's supposed to be in the Black Forces, man. Yeah.

Trey, look at this. What you what? 13, 14? 14. I got you, bro. Don't worry. I got some strings for you. We're shipping to New Orleans, bro.

Some Black Forces? Yeah, I need some. I'm going to get some design, too. That's his staples. Yeah. We starting early. We starting early We starting early You gotta hoop in him though

He deserves Black Forest as well Jeremy Soccer warmed up in him You gotta play a game You gotta drop 30 to Black Forest That's his game That's not my game though He do got a nasty game I ain't saying

I ain't saying I mean he like Play like He play hard bro Yeah He got one of those kind of games. If your game was a Black Air Force, we're going to do a first team all Black Air Force.

We can start it now. We got guests in here. We can do it when we get back home. Oh, man. To my right, my dog. Drake Mild, leading the charge. Oh, he got the black mids for sure. With the...

Oh. My fault. I like it. I like him to my right my dog young Nacho young Teague how you doing

I'm chilling man let's get to it nasty I can't lie I'm not saying let's get to it that's what I'm saying he freaky

chill man freaky don't introduce this nigga for sure man one of my favorite young players in the league man hooping doing this thing right now He freaky. Chill, man. Freaky. Y'all introduce this nigga, man. Yeah. For sure, man. One of my favorite young players in the league, man.

Hooping, doing his thing right now, showcasing his skills. One point, he just got that bag, man. Yeah. And no, Pelicans. We ain't telling nobody to change. Oh, yeah. Nah, we see it, bro. He shining in here.

Love to see it, for sure, man. I'm calm, bro. I'm calm. For sure, man. I appreciate y'all. Y'all killing, man. 50-40-90? Nah, nah.

Close, though. Okay. Yeah, I'm close. If you don't know, Trey Murphy, man. Big dog. Appreciate Y'all killing, man. 50-40-90? Nah, nah. Close, though. Okay. Yeah, I'm close. If you don't know, Trey Murphy, man. Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this, man. Appreciate y'all having me here. For sure, man.

Shout out to my dog, Troy, man. We got the deal done, man. I was like working with Troy, man. That's my dog. He be having me cracking up, man. Man, he's something else. I'll tell you that. Nah, he's something else.

But I got a lot of jokes and clowns in my life. So, you know, it is what it is. and clowns in my life. So, you know, it is what it is. It's, yeah. For sure, man. Shout out to the gang, man. Be here. Young boy right here.

I know, man. Talk to him early, man. I asked him, what you had at UT and he said it was a grassroots nigga like T. You know what I mean? Cut off T's,

airbrush T's. I had a right at UT. What you talking about? No, you didn't. My senior year. Shit, it's over Yeah You already going to college You already going to college

I think it's not What basketball I filed When he was 18 He had a raid Listen So how do y'all feel When y'all go play a team

And they jersey Don't match their shorts Do y'all feel like It's Christmas Or do you feel like They defund them Nah they finna press The whole game

Probably like the Coach yelling fire and it was one, two, two press. That was my team. That's a black Air Force One team for sure.

That was my team. Hate them teams. We had mismatched jerseys. Who was one of the hardest people that you played growing up that you can remember?

Kobe White. Easy. He led the state in scoring in high school. And we played against him at AU and then we had a camp and he averaged, in the camp I think he averaged like 38. Yeah. I was

second though. I was after 31 though. Oh shit. I like Kobe White. Kobe White's a hoop. For sure man. NC kid man. I was like growing up in NC hoop like you said. There's a lot of pressure around there for them schools. That's my area. Yeah, no, for sure.

I was a Carolina fan growing up, but, you know, they ain't showing no love. So, here's what it is. They didn't recruit you at all? No. Even when I transferred? No. What about NC State? No.

Damn, shout out to Rice. No, I mean, out of high school, I won't say I was weak, but I won the best. I mean, when I got the rice, I was playing a little more. I got bigger, stronger. I was 6'5", going into rice, about 170 pounds. Damn. Make a wish, kid.

See? That's it. The real Toby. See? That's it. It's a homie. The real homie. I should have sent my little dude some DoorDash. That was before the NIL. Hey, we was struggling, though. Hey, 6-5-1-7, he's crazy.

That is crazy, sir. I was 6-5-1-7. You're down there built like DC Young. Hold on. You just say things. It's crazy, Dre. I was 6'1", what's that? You're down there built like DC Youngblood. Hold on, you just, you just said that? 6'1", what's that? That's the same thing. But you 6'5", what's that?

Nah, nah, 6'5". That's the same thing, bro. 6'4". Nah, but started season nine, I ended up getting to like 185, like 187. So, getting that college weight.

And then I got taller. And when I, my second year I was like you know I think I just need to change and so I went to AIM in the portal

and it got hectic I can't lie to you that's crazy because you was probably like the first generation of people who was able to access the portal right I was second

second yeah I was second so because at that time you didn't even have to tell your coach you was leaving you didn't have to have no meeting you could just dip

that's crazy oh that's wicked yeah so did you have a meeting or anything You didn't have to have no meeting or nothing. You could have just dipped. That's crazy. Oh, that's wicked. Yeah. So did you have a meeting or anything? I didn't do that. I'm sorry. Hold on. I'm sorry.

The rest was good to you. We're not kids. It was a phone call, though. Hey. Coach, I'm out. A voicemail? I didn't build you up. No, that's real nice, though.

I'm being serious, though. How'd that go? It was during COVID. Oh, okay. Yeah, we had to leave. I couldn't even be over there anyway. We wasn't going to be face-to-face anyway. That would have been a tough conversation.

I can't believe it. I might have stayed there if we had that conversation. It's like he's about to be the best player in the right system coming back to the year. Well, actually. Yeah. Yeah, no, the story might have been a little different. Now, how was that portal, though, in there, that process?

So, it's cool, but, but like when you first put your name in the portal though it's not what you think it is like yeah you get in schools it's like at the same level you were just at and i'm not saying like rice is mid-major at the end of the day and like i'm getting calls from like uncg and like schools like that and they'll just pay uncg but i'm like i'm not going from rice to uncg yeah it's all disrespect. Nobody wants to go from Rice to UNCG. I play UNCG. We don't want to go there. My dad, he a troll.

He's a hater. He was like, yo, UNC called. I was like, oh, he said G. We had a dude in Indianapolis. He went to Seller, Illinois University, Evansville. So he's like, I'm going to S-I-U. S-I-U. I'm going to S-I-U.

He put the E lower. S-I-U. Lowercase E. That's crazy. I was like, oh, man. That's funny. I want to ask, like you said, the recruitment situation was a little bit different out of high school.

Obviously, you come back as a developed player. And that portal, how is that? Because for a lot of people who just jump into the kids they just all right i just want to go in the portal because they just looking to run tell me that ain't the easiest solution to your situation see it's different like i had good film like i was nice like so i was transferring and people knew like what it was you know you want that portal is wicked like you won't hear calls for weeks. Probably day three, that's when I started getting high major calls and stuff like that.

That's when my phone just started blowing up. For sure. What was that call that made you like, oh yeah, I'm here now? Probably Shocker Smart. He was at Texas at the time. He called. Because I watched him when he was at VCU, they were always around and stuff. I was like, dang, that's a real good coach right there.

That's your type of basketball, too. To an extent. I'm not in front of the press. That's them. They got that. I'll definitely play that style. Fast pace, all that stuff. For sure. I was saying that, playing that style. How?

What you mean? Did you pick the school you went to? Because they don't play that style at all. Okay, so let me break down what happened. For about 19 years of my life, I didn't play no defense whatsoever. And I said to myself, like, no, you didn't even try? No, no, I didn't.

I was just worried about getting buckets. Get dirty. But I was like, if I want to be a high NBA, like a high prospect in the NBA, I got to play some defense. if I want to be a high NBA, like a high, like, prospect in the NBA, I got to play some defense. So, went to school,

I played the most defense. Yeah, that's interesting. I would never in my life go to school for defense. So, you had a different

mentality, though. Yeah, I mean, it was mainly just in your head, though. Because 19 years,

you damn near thinking for yourself at this point. no, I mean, I try to think ahead. Was it was that in your head, though? Because 19 years, you damn near thinking for yourself at this point. Yeah, no, I mean, I try to think ahead. Was it your dad, your coaches? Like, who, like,

in order to play defense? I mean, like, they said stuff about it, but that was really just me because they really wanted me to go to Villanova. That was, like, my other option. Damn.

That would've been nice. Yeah, that would've been nice. Yeah, no, but, like, that's a tough choice. Virginia and Villanova, you really, like, two best schools you can pick. I wasn't picking no school for defense.

I went to Wake Forest, the real school in the ACC. No way you just call Wake Forest the real school in the ACC. Yeah. Virginia's bad this year. Y'all not much better. Nope. Go check the standards. Go check the standards.

I ain't been looking at the camera. I know he ain't been watching. Wake Forest was sad when you was in. Nope. Go check the standards. Go check the standards. I ain't been looking at the camera. I know he ain't been watching. White course was sad when you was there. Yeah. Oh, he got chill because Virginia was ass

when I was there. They had Sean Singletary. We talking about, we talking about stuff when you was there, when I was there, man. It don't even matter. When you was there, though.

That's definitely 15 years. We was good. We was there. We lost first round, sadly, but it is what it is. Who'd y'all lose to? Yeah. Shout out to Kyle Guy.'d y'all lose to? Yeah. Shout out to Kyle Guy.

That's that town, baby. Yeah. We lost to Ohio. Oh, man. Jalen Preston, though. They had Jalen Preston in that. On that team. I know.

He was. Y'all helped him get to the league. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Y'all did. We lost in the first round. I was in school, too.

Don't worry about that. It be like that sometimes, bro. Don't worry about that. I think our situation was a little bit different, but nonetheless, early trip. Same thing, though. Where y'all played at? Indy?

Damn. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. Oh, that's tough. But the thing is, though, bro, hold on, though. It was like the COVID year, though, so we got COVID

during the ACC tournament, so we had to forfeit. And the tournament, like the NCAA tournament, was five days after yeah you're not just supposed to be able to play during a couple you got it's a week right it was just like we're just gonna figure it out day before the game we flew up there tested at two in the morning tested again at 10 in the morning and they we played oh yeah they was trying to get

you out of there that's what i'm saying that was a money grab absolutely but here's what it is though for sure damn wicked situation but like for you as a player in virginia how was it like all right That was a money grab. Absolutely. But here's what it is, though. For sure. Damn. Wicked situation. But, like, for you as a player in Virginia, how was that? Like, all right, now I'm on the stage I want to be on. I'm getting to get my shit off. What's that feeling like?

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts I remember it was the first game because I wasn't even supposed to play that first year I was, we told everybody I'm a red shirt and stronger, play the next year go to the league, and I was playing like everybody knew that I get to practice i'm cooking and the coach like i mean you can play right now

if you really want to look at my dad i said i can't lie i'm trying to hoop i ain't trying to sit down like just be chilling for a whole year and um so i got my transfer like waiver like the day before the game we played Towson and I had like six threes dunked on somebody got an M1 was playing on ESPN

I was like oh shoot I might be I might be out of it and I saw my name on NBADraft.net and I was like hey and I was like

they said first round next year like alright hold up I might be out of it so yeah that's that's really how it happened

what number they had you on the board 30 yeah it was right there yeah right there yeah you bet on yourself I hit. So yeah, that's, that's really how it happened. What number they had you on the board? 30. Yeah. It was right there. Yeah. Right there.

Yeah. Right. You bet on yourself. That's a bad man. Got away. That's a bad man. Did it mess you up though? Like when you see your name on the draft board? It did because the next game we lost to San Francisco.

Okay. And my name was taken off the board. That's what I'm saying. That's a good one. Damn. I'm weak again. Nah, you see your name on that draft board. I was at three one time. Damn. Yeah, it's different

than 30, though. Nah, it's just huge. Nah, I was like, dang, it's Blake Griffin, James Harden, and me. Then I look back again. I was 28. Like, boy, I gotta stop looking at this shit. And y'all didn't lose. Didn back again. I was 28. Like, boy, I got to stop looking at this shit. And y'all didn't lose. Didn't lose.

I was like, God, Lee. For sure, man. That's crazy. You was going to redshirt the whole year and end up killing that whole year.

So at this point, you're like, all right, we thought we was going to go to the league next year, but fuck it, we can do it now. Yeah, I didn't.

It was a game in January against Syracuse. I had like 16 8 horses like blocks whatever and the assistant coach

was like yo I gotta send these agents numbers to your dad because I don't know if you're gonna be able to be here next year I'm like

what you talking about bro I'm coming back to school and then as time kept going like ESPN started picking up something that said sleeper for

potential first roundround pick. I'm like, shoot. If I can leave it now, I'm leaving now. I ain't going to come back and let them pick my game apart even more? Absolutely not. That's a smart man. And I started locking in. That was during COVID, too, so I ain't seen nobody.

I won't try and get COVID. I won't try and mess up my draft stock, none of that. I was in my room going crazy. Damn. So you didn't work out for no teams? No, I did. No, I did. I worked out 14 teams. I had 14 workups. Damn, bro. Damn. So you didn't work out for no teams? No, I did. No, I did. I worked out 14 teams.

I had 14 workouts. Damn, bro. Yeah. That's a nice journey right there. 14 workouts. What was your best workout that you feel? Go to say. Who you thought was going to take you?

I know they regret the fuck. Is that who you thought was going to take you? Yeah. I know they regret that. Damn, San Fran. Get well soon. Damn, who they picking that one? Do they remember? It's 2021. Oh, no. Damn, who they picking now, man? Do they remember?

It's 2021. Oh, no, I remember who it is, but I'm going to... I'm going to say the name. You got me over here thinking. I'm over here. I'm over here. That's Michelle. Say the name.

I mean, I'll tell you, everybody was drafted. They drafted Kaminga and Moody. Yeah, yeah. I'll say it's Kaminga and Moody. Yeah, I'll probably take you over Kamega and Moody. I mean, they're good players, but... Yeah, no, they're

good players, but, you know, I know they regret that a little bit. Wow, for sure. Especially Moody because he was known as a shooter.

And no disrespect to Moody, he's a good player, but he was known as a shooter. Mm-hmm. And you got a goddamn...

What's your 16? Basically. Give or take. Yeah. That shoot probably better. I mean, I was 50, 40, 90 in Virginia. Yeah.

That's why. That's why I missed that. Stock of shit. Obviously, athletic as shit. Hell yeah. Beyond that hoop. Obviously, you know, end up in the world. But he was a trade on draft night.

How was that? I mean, I kind of knew what was happening. Because they told me the day before, they were like, all right, they're moving back from 10 to 17. When they did that, I was like, all right, they're moving back from 10 to 17. When they did that, I was like, all right, I'm not going past 17. But I also wasn't invited to the green room, which I was hot about, too. Like, I wanted to be at the green room. You wanted to do that?

You didn't enjoy it? Like, you was at the crib? Yeah, I was at the crib. You didn't enjoy it with the fam, though? There's too many people. Because then, you know, like, there'd be some family members that'd be a little worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, they're like, oh, like, man, I knew you was up.

Bro, I ain't trying to hear that right now. I'm stressed. I'm trying to figure out where I'm going with that. I ain't go to the green room. I was too nervous. Really? I ain't want to be that guy, the last dude in the green room. Everybody got spooky for me.

I was like, nah, I can't do that. I'm too nervous. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's a bad feeling. Yeah, that's a bad feeling. But you knew you was going no later than 17. I knew no later than 17. Oh, yeah.

I'll be mad about that too then. That's what it is though. For sure, man. What's that feeling like? All right, we went to Rice. We done turned up. Now we in the league. What's that first initial

welcome to the league moment like for you? It might have been like the first open gym. I was going to RBI and I was like... And like... Damn.

When you see it on film, he's moving slow. He's not really like getting by people. He's just shooting over people. I was like and like when you see it on film it's he moving slow like he's not really like getting by people he's just shooting over people I'm like alright like nah

nah he was hooping it was put a ball on you that day yeah you said what put a ball yeah yeah yeah bro

pause bro yeah it's not a real commercial I fuck with you though cause you checking shit that's your shit yeah he said what Yeah. It's not a real commercial. I fuck with you, though, because you checking shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, what? Nah.

I fuck with that. It's second nature, though. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. My team, they just... They the worst. They the worst. Nah, they the worst. They the worst.

We got police, the Pulse police on our team. Oh, y'all got a hell of a roster. Most definitely. Shout out to the Pelicans, my dogs. Yeah, yeah. I like y'all team a hell of a roster. Most definitely. Shout out to the Pelicans, my dogs. Yeah, yeah. I like y'all team, actually.

Yeah. One of my favorite teams. One of my homies, Woo, Javante Green. Oh, that's my dog. Shout out to Gary. Yeah, that's...

Woo! He probably the funniest dude on the team, bro. Oh, God, Woo. He loud, too, bro. All the time. He do not, like, there's no, like,

inside voice for him. He hype every day. Every day. I respect it, bro. Because there definitely be like, inside voice for him. He hype every day. Every day. I respect it, bro. Because there definitely be some days where probably should not be that hype. He still bring energy. What was that? Don't start laughing, bro.

I know what you're thinking. No, I know it get dark in that locker room sometimes. And the media room be a little different. Shout out to Double M. My man. Maybach music. Oh, I like that Maybach music Sweet

So be Be our Buster Jazz That first open show We got Buster Jazz Welcome to the league Little nigga So And you know what's even crazier

Devontae Graham He was on the team too And at open gym I ain't even scored One bucket the whole day. Not one. The whole day. Your confidence was shot.

In the trash, bro. It was bad. And Devontae was like, I can't lie, bro. You can't go a whole day and not get one bucket, not even layup or nothing. I was like, I got to figure this out. He liked that, though. Probably had a little nerves, too. Absolutely.

Yeah. Absolutely. Coach was there, all that stuff. First-round pick. Yeah, he'd be nervous. He'd take you under his wing, though, after that. Absolutely. Bro, I was watching a workout, and I'm like,

I ain't working hard enough. So, like, I got to figure out if I want to be at his level, I got to work like he do. So, he was the person that, like, opened my eyes, like, really, like, working hard and, like, being real intentional about your work. But you can see like the like from seeing you your first year i think you had a good work year i'm like great work year and i see your second year in the development i know you went through an injury and now we see you now like with bi not playing this

year and kind of leaving i'm not now he's gone or whatever but he left and then i see your growth we always talk about in the morning show. We like, damn, he had another 30 point game. Damn, 35. That boy killing. He killing. He killing.

And I'm like, my boy getting a mother. Somebody got to. Somebody got to. Somebody got to. Somebody got to. Somebody got to. But like,

the CEO development, like, I think you're making that next step, that stride to be the go-to guy on the team, you and Zion,

obviously. But Zion, you know, he plays. Hopefully he can get healthy. Yeah. And stay healthy. Look at him.

Here you go, bro. I'm not, I'm just saying, nigga, you be gunning, you be killing. Do you know what I'm saying? Rather Zion,

rather Zion is there or not, you still hold it down. You know what I mean? So, absolutely. Do that feel good? Like, knowing that,

basically, you the go-to. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Dude, I feel good, like, knowing that, basically, you the go-to guy now. Swing that shit. Yeah, swing that shit. Yeah, for real. Nah, I mean, for me, it's just, like, I know this summer,

well, the summer before, I was like, I'm going to work on my game, so I'm not relying on other people. Okay. Because every mini-game is, like, my third year. I'm just waiting in the corner chilling.

I'm just like, bro, I just can't do this. I'm going crazy. I ain't touch the ball and find possessions. I get the ball, they swing it to me off a foreign object. I can't shoot now. I was like, I'm not doing that. I just worked on my game. I just made sure I stayed aggressive and just changed my mindset to an extent.

You already talked about that. That transition to like, I'm used to having the ball in my hands and now it's just like, all right, I got a fitness offense. Like, all right, I get the ball once every two minutes. Y'all want me to shoot?

I ain't warmed up or nothing. Like, that's a lot of pressure. It is. And I know as a young player, because I did have to run the corner with Joe Johnson and those guys. I know what that feeling's like.

So when you actually get a chance to beat a guy and I'm looking at you, I'm like, shit, I ain't do enough because you getting 20 attempts. I'm like, my boy I ain't doing enough. Because you're getting 20 attempts. I'm like, my boy figured it out quick.

Yeah, you got to let her shop some lectures. Oh, love it. I mean, what's funny is, I ain't going to say the name of the coach. One of the coaches,

he was like, I mean, they paid you already. They can't unpay you. That's a fact. You might as well do what you want to do at this point. That's a fact.

And so, yeah, my third year, I was stressing. I have a bad game. I'm like, damn, I ain't going to as well do what you want to do at this point. That's a fact. And so, yeah, my third year, I was stressing. I have a bad game. I'm like, damn, I ain't going to get paid when I really want to. That's where I'm feeling, bro.

I like you. Oh, that's the same, bro. I like you, bro. And then, like, that last road trip, we played Golden State. I had, like, 28. Played Sacramento.

I had, like, 29. And then we played somebody else and I was hoping. I said, yeah, I'm going to make me some money. I'll be all right. I had like 29. And then we played somebody else and I was hoping. I said, yeah, I'm going to make me some money. I'll be all right. I said, yeah, I'll be all right, man. That's the name of the game.

You fucking right. You get paid. You play well, you get paid. When did you figure out like, all right, I'm here now, though. Like what year was that? Did you start understanding like how the NBA game is played? Where you was like super confident in yourself? I would have to say playing game my rookie year.

We played against the Clippers. We were up 20, going into half. Third quarter, we down 10. They told me the game. Yeah, crazy. 30 points lead? Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, crazy. 30 points lead? Yeah, it was bad. Okay, respect.

And it was loud in there. And, like, Staples and his don't get, like, this was Staples at the time. Staples don't get loud like that. It was loud in there. And I'm just like, man, we finna go home. I ain't going to the playoffs. I ain't what am I finna do for the summer. But then they threw me in the game.

I said, all right, we're going to figure this out. I ended up hitting, like, four or five threes or something like that at the end of the game. So we went to the playoffs.. I said, all right, we're going to figure this out. I ended up hitting like four or five threes or something like that at the end of the game. So we went to the playoffs. I was like, all right, that might be nice. Moments like that,

a lot of people, they just going to get into their little shell. That's hard. Yeah. I got a two-part question for this. All right, rookie deal, first game paid, went crazy. What you cop?

Not no responsible shit. What you wild out with? What did I get? I can't lie. Like, I don't be making wild well, now. It's a two-part question. We go see them shoes. Yeah. I know them Botteghe's just came out. They didn't come out of full lockers.

Don't put them up on the table, nigga. Cross your legs and shit. You can get some real camera time, nigga. It's cool. They cool. They cool. We all general releases. It's cool. I still care right there. They cool. They cool. They cool. We all general releases. Yeah.

These was free. This is make a whiskey. And you're going to make a whiskey. They're my favorite people, brother. Something wrong with you,

bro. We can't never get no proper. If you acknowledge it, it gets worse. What you buy, man? Damn, what you buy? That's the question for you.

Nah, you know what's crazy? I was about to buy a chain. I was very close to buying a chain. Okay. Then my teammate Josh Hart, he was just like, bro, like, you just throwing money away. You might as well get you a watch. And then, like, the whole value, you might get, you know, more. And so, I ended up buying, like, a little Rolex, Scott Dweller.

Okay. That's what Mike got on. Oh, no, that's a dead. That's a dead. You saw that Apple Watch over there. You know what I'm saying? I know, I did. He got one.

He bought like three or four Rolexes. So he got one of those Scott Dwellers. Oh, you got one. Yeah, he got the G-Shock on today. He got a Cuban anklet. Bust down. Yeah. He bust down an anklet.

He trying to put the anklet on his wife's shoulder. The ultimate warrior. He the real ghost. He got out the place and said, Sam Fran, I'm here. He put his ankle up.

Sam Fran, I'm here. The ankle up is crazy. My fault. All right, you ain't got a mic today. I believe you love it. Bruce Smith.

He can't defend himself, bro. That's the best part. That is crazy. Motherfucker. All right, Mike. You ain't got a mic today. I believe you love it. This is it. He can't defend himself, bro. That's the best part. Shoot the strays. All right, second part of the question. New extension, what you got, man? I know you get wherever you go. I know you went crazy. I got a car.

I'm just going to say that. Okay. When people start doing that, they know what type of car it is. It is not a Toyota. You deserve it, though, man. Work hard. You know what type of time it is it's not a Toyota you deserve it though man work hard

it's funny though I told my financial advisor I said when I sign this contract I'm making a African American purchase I said I'm gonna

make sure I make one of them purchases I'm gonna I'm gonna get something I want exactly what I want I don't care

exactly like if it's too much whatever I'm gonna be alright it's a dream man yeah I'm gonna make sure I want. Like, I don't care exactly, like, if it's too much, whatever, whatever. Like, I'm going to be all right. It's a dream, man. Yeah, I'm going to make sure I look out for myself. Yeah. Work hard, man.

You get to live your dream. Get something you like. Oh, boy, you and Mike Lowry with it. Yeah, I had got the Porsche, yeah. Porsche 911. Yeah. I wanted to get something. Got me a nice little truck.

You making all these faces? What was it? What you get? You got the Lamb truck? Nah. Billy. The Rolls Royce truck. Yeah, I feel that.

I like that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah. I love it. We celebrating wins on this show.

We just walk by them now. Just look at them. Yeah, we probably looked at yours when we was in the room. I think I'm in the car door. Let me see what's on this. We just want to sit in here. Call them seats, dude. Just want to take green or worse. seats no Devontae Green or worse

he was like he said let me get I just need a picture bro that's it that's all I'm on man don't be like that hey pull your head to the side

that's why I'm taking phones in the car nah you done had any crazy matchups like so far in the league with like another opponent like I had a battle

you know what's crazy when we played Denver in Denver we had like a home and home Like I had a battle. You know what's crazy? When we played Denver, in Denver, we had like a home-and-home. Game I had 41, Michael Porter had 36 or 38. And it was all like both of us were like hooping in third quarter. He was hitting shots, I was hitting shots. So it was cool just like shot making because then at the time I was just in like a flow state kind of. I wasn't even really thinking.

I was just shooting the ball. That was it. And y'all both were, like, y'all both shooting at a high clip. Yeah, they both shooting. Don't play no defense. That's right. He play. Was you guarding?

I won't guard him, no. But who was guarding? I don't remember, bro. Damn, Jeff. We be switching, bro. We be switching, bro. One, two, five. Yeah, team defense, bro. It's a team.

We get scored on as a team. Okay, so shoot. I got to coach you off. Who got more assists in that game? Him or MPJ? Him. Bro, MPJ. I had 11 assists last game.

Come on, dog. MPJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. MPJ. MPJ. Oh, yeah, no, that game, I think I had two assists that game. He had none. Guarantee. Oh yeah. No, that game.

I think I had to assist that game. You're into, you know, we got a running joke. Like we, we look at MPJ since every, every game. Yeah.

Average one. And it's hard to just average one. I mean, you fall. You fall into two assists a night. You average one. I'm just, I just made that up,

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that was how much he gave you he gave the team 30 ah this nigga here man yo ain't no switch

alright I'll tell you this first game he was like 1, 4, 6 on like when I guard him second game he was like

6 or 6 law averages he had to figure it out. Yeah. I understand now. What's crazy is I thought I had figured it out first game. I was like, oh yeah, I had to figure it out. The second game, he had another counter. I said, all right.

There's a reason why he averaged 30. That's what would be making me high. People are like, oh, he cooked you. He averaged 30. He played 70, 80 games, averaged 30. Yeah. He played 70, 80 games, averaged 30. Everybody is getting 30, bro.

Nah, that's a fact. There's no discrimination here. That's a fact, bro. You think he got the best, like, bag in the league? Like, you guard Kyrie? Yeah. I would say it's gotta be Kyrie, though.

Gotta be Kyrie. Yeah, it's Kyrie. Go. Yeah, Kyrie. He right there, though. Yeah, they like one and two. It's different. It's just different.

Like, Kyrie, he has like a cadence a cadence and, like, a pace to him. Where it's like, you know he's going to swing, do this, do that, counter. Shea, you just, like, you do not know what he's going to do. Good look. Kyrie, like, he be practicing. Like, I think he know his head. Like, all right, I'm just about to hit him with a cross and pull up. Oh, yeah.

This is like, like, Shea really counter. No, true. Like, you bump him, he go behind the back spin, come back with the end. And I'm like, golly, I don't want to hit him with a cross and pull up. Oh, yeah. This is like, like, Shea really counter. No, true. Like, you bump him, he go behind the back spin, come back with the end. And I'm like, golly, I don't want to guard him. He got too much. Like, y'all know me. I'll just foul him at that point. When he start doing that.

Oh, we know you're going to foul. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know you're going to foul. See, y'all doing that. I know you got to look his compilation up. Go ahead, look at my file. You got to file. Nothing crazy. No, nothing crazy. I've about to go look his top. Go ahead. Look at my phone. You got no bells. Nothing crazy.

No, nothing crazy. I've been getting texts recently for some reason, though. Oh, you be cussing the refs out? My type of guy. He the type of guy. He the type of rapper. He want to change. Cuss refs out.

Got the roll. Jello on the way. Wow. He don't swerve. That boy in New Orleans, too. Damn, don't live in South Jersey. Oh, yeah, we got to get you a T-shirt. Let's go.

Oh, yeah, I got jokes today. All right. Everybody got jokes today. How many texts you got? I got two in the last, like, week. Boy, you got a lot of work. Bro, but, like, nah, bro. But, like, there's something to be weak, though.

Like, the last one was really weak. Like, I was actually, like, there was one, like, all right, I was trying to get a take. Like, when we was in Sacramento, I went down like the last possession. Got fouled and called out. I wild out. I came out to you. And I felt bad after because before the game, the ref asked me. He was like, so how have you been, man?

You know, have you been blessed? You been getting treated well? And I was like, dang. He had this conversation with me before the game. I just cussed him out. Nah, bro, you the opps, bro. Who is it? I hate Scott Foster. And Tony Brothers.

And Tony Brothers. I ain't got no problem with Tony. Oh. Never mind. Wait, I forgot about that. I hate Tony Brothers. We don't want to talk too much about the refs. Trey's still in the league. I was going to tell him, don't cuss them out. If the refs Trey's still in the league yeah yeah

I was going to tell him don't cuss them out because if you cuss them out you not going to get a call another year you see for Evan Fleet

yeah bro don't do that don't do that they ain't going to give you no calls so you know I can understand

you got a Mike Conley Mike Conley had to take his whole career everybody love Mike just go sit your little ass down on the bench and yell, bro. Just start yelling at your hotel. Pause, yeah.

I was going to ask you, what you do when you get calls? I'll punch you. I'll punch a cop. What if a gladiator was? Nah, see. Y'all know I got a little angry pride because I don't like being cheated. I feel like if y'all cheat me, I'm going to take it in my own hands. We're going to figure this out.

So learn from the old heads, Trey. Protect your money, kid. Yeah, don't do it. I lost the free. I ain't got that many, though. It's been two in the last week. Overall, I probably got like five texts. What's your favorite thing about the league?

I know it's playing at the highest level, but, like, I used to ask people this. What was, like, your favorite thing when you made it to the league? Like, actually, like, my real answer is being able to, like, show my parents, like, the experiences and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Like, I went to All-Star two years ago? Three years ago? I was in Utah. And I did the dunk contest

and my mom and dad got to meet like Dr. J. Yeah. Like Charles Barkley. Like all these old hits that, you know, they used to watch and I really appreciate it

and just seen like a smile on their face. That was like the biggest thing for me. See, my biggest thing when I first got to the league at Wake Forest, we was kind of like, they were stingy.

But you got unlimited Gatorade. That's what you hype about? Listen, that shit is crazy. They be putting this shit in the back of your trunk, right? They do that for y'all? No. Y'all ain't have it like us. It's like, you can get, we can get 40 cases of Gatorade.

They put it in your trunk. I couldn't believe this shit. I was 20, turned 20. Look how you said you was geeked about that. That's how you know a nigga had a rough life. And I mean,

that boy appreciate everything that come to his way. You know what I mean? Nigga gave him something to drink. This nigga, million dollar nigga.

He gave the nigga a Gatorade. He blessed. You talking about showing your mama Dr. J. Motherfucker had the all-star game chilling

this nigga giving his family nigga what color blue it's the truth we ain't got to share no more y'all I swear bro

I couldn't believe you had unlimited Gatorade that's just something I I don't know maybe that's just me I don't know

it is hey man y'all appreciate little things bro it was little things I ain't bought a Maybe that's just me. I don't know. It is. I appreciate little things, bro. It was little things. I didn't buy a drink for like three years. I had water, propels. Is that why you always had

that shit in your cabinet? No, he did though. That's dope. He always had everything free. Yeah, that shit was always. Redacted. We'll get that. Don't worry about Pinterest. It was all with ****. That was the gang. We're knackered. We'll get that. Don't worry about it.

We good. This nigga is a clown. It was a little thing. You part. You part. See how he do with me, bro. It's all good. You talked about the duck houses.

How was that? Like, being isolated, everybody all eyes on you. Like, what's that like to prepare for that and then being in that moment? I'll say the moment's cool. Like, I like playing, like, on the road because it gives you that like man in the arena feeling like they booing you and stuff like i'm a hater at heart so i kind of appreciate like having those like men in the arena time so um it's weird though like that first dunk you nervous like super nervous because you can't miss your first dunk like you've seen in duck contests

last night you miss your first dunk it's just yeah seen the dunk contest last night. You miss your first dunk. It's just bad start. Yeah, bad start for you. So, you know, it was cool, though. I feel like I was fighting an uphill battle. But, like, you know, I still had a good time, though. Sure. You are one of the bounciest players in the league, though. Like, you athletic as shit.

I didn't know that when you was at Virginia. I knew you were athletic, but how you jumped in that dunk contest. We all were talking about it. I remember we was watching. I was like, what the? Like, that boy, you got the juice. You talk to LeBron? No.

No. Nah. Because I know what you're trying to do. I'll try to figure out. Y'all think he's jumping too high, man. You know what's crazy? I didn't get my first dunk To my senior in high school

Wow Damn So he was 165 So 6'5", 165 No athleticism Just shooting That was it I'm telling you

What happened? I got in the weight room That was really it And then also just Hitting puberty Being honest with you Damn, you hit puberty? Damn, what was that?

Like, for real? That boy, something he didn't apply for year over? Damn, Steve, girl. You hit puberty in your senior year? So late, bro.

I can't control that. I'm talking about puberty in your senior year? It was wicked. Oh, shit. Problem was wild. Yeah, wild problem. I don't wonder why you wouldn't get no

taxes. You didn't even grow up until your body. Here we go, brother. Let's see why you went to Rice. Okay. Rice first. Okay. Rice was cool, bro.

You didn't hit puberty. So when you actually hit it, it was time to go to Virginia. That's respectful. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, that's kind of how it played out. Don't say, don't agree with me on that. Did it?

I mean. I still did, bro. Yeah. That is crazy, bro. I never heard that ever in my life. Nah, it's meant to be, bro. Man, don't even start that, bro. Nah, because you kept growing in crazy, bro. I've never heard that ever in my life. No, it's meant to be, bro. Man, don't even start that, bro. No, because you kept growing in college, bro.

You growing and you 20 years old. That's crazy, bro. It's meant to be, bro. You was meant to be in the league, bro. For sure. Your time is impeccable for sure, man. I want to say, obviously, up and down here, but what's the one thing you've enjoyed about this season so far, man?

Obviously, coming to see y'all, being a leader, but what's it like you enjoy so far with this new season with you? Biggest thing is just growth. Like, for me, I get so, like, lost to the process of working hard and just getting better each day. And so, now, like, I'm actually getting game reps. Like, I'm getting pick and rolls now.

Like, I ain't never been in a pick and roll for real. So, you know, people double-team me. I'm seeing different looks, and I just know where I want to get to eventually. I'm going to need these game reps right real. So, you know, people double team me. I'm seeing different looks. And I just know where I want to get to eventually. I'm going to need these game reps right now. So, you know, it's been good. Where do you want to get to? Like, where should we go?

All-NBA. All-NBA. Yeah, All-NBA for sure. Yes. You can get there. You can get there. For sure. Absolutely.

You're 24, right? Yeah, 24. Oh, yeah, you still young, bro. Yeah, I got time. I'll be all right. I know you talk about this all the time. Like, the pressure's up as well to perform, right? Now, 24. Oh, yeah, you still young, bro. Yeah, I got time. I'm going to be all right. I know you talk about this all the time, like the pressures of basketball to perform, right? Now you're in a situation, all right, cool, we inked the deal.

How does it feel now, like that pressure, like you said, going from year three to year four is like, all right, I had to fight for this. I was struggling to get there. But now it's like, all right, cool, I can just hoop again. What's that feeling like? It's great. I'll tell you that.

Because like I said before, them year three games, I go one for six and three. I'm like you that because I, like I said before them year three games, I go one for six and three. I'm like, hey, I ain't finna get paid or I really want to. I'm be struggling

blah, blah, blah. This and the third. And now I shoot one for six. Hey, bro, it is what it is. I'll make it back next game. Yeah. I mean,

you talk about you as like it was a real stressful process for you that first essential pause. Yeah, I broke out of highs. It was too stressful, bro. I wanted to hoop. pause. Yeah, I broke out in hives. It was too stressful, bro.

I wanted to hoop. Like you said, I looked at every game, every stat. If I wasn't shooting 40 from the three, I was worried, all this stuff. But once you get that extension, you get paid, it ain't no pressure no more. Now as you start reaching goals, like I'm trying to make the all-star team, I'm trying to do this, you're not even worried about missed shots and all that stuff because you know that's part of the game. Absolutely. Yeah, so now

we expect you from next year. We know it's a little struggle this year with New Orleans or whatever. Y'all had a lot of stuff going on. Zion play. You play. We expect you to be making a push for the All-Star game, right? Absolutely. Yeah, I expect that. For sure.

What you be eating down there, man, in New Orleans, man. Best food city in the world, baby. I'm talking about food. Nigga, what you looking for the game? Boudin. You say that? Hold on. I'm about to get on both of y'all's ass.

See, I'm trying to be... She laughing. You say that's a boudin ball? All right, Chuck. Ducky Say that's a booty at ball Alright Man tell me some footwork Quit playing man Damn

My bad bro This is This is the end of the question though don't go Okay Cause I know what you thinking No I'm not

I promise bro No I'm not I promise I'm not I'm not thinking about it I'm not. I promise, bro. No. I'm not. I promise. I'm not thinking about it. I was thinking it. See? See?

Nah, bro. We ain't doing that. I ain't doing that. I was thinking it. Nah, I can't lie. They got a lot of great food out there. But, like, I'm not a fan of, like, real, like, New Orleans food, like, gumbo, all that other stuff.

Oh, you don't fuck with that. I ain't going to say I don't. I'm just not going to go out of my way to get it. Gotcha. No disrespect to y'all culture. We're trying to get him to learn and try new stuff on the food side. New Orleans, they eat gator down there.

Oh, no. Gator bites? Bust down. It's not that bad, bro. No, no, no, no. He doesn't like it at all. So they fast and food differences be hilarious. Row House. Legend. Texas Row House legend. They got good rolls. He don't like He doesn't like at all So that ain't fast And food difference Be hilarious Yeah he is Rowhouse

Legend Texas Rowhouse legend They got good rolls Yeah Legendaries He eat the food He eat the food Top five restaurant

All the time Without a doubt Please give him a deal Please Listen I'll do every ad read Whatever y'all want me to do You ever seen Blondside

Yeah That's the best My mama hate you for that yes I'm just curious how many quit acting like I was homeless I mean the Gatorade

the Gatorade I'm like I mean touche let's get him out of here that's right man we appreciate you sliding on this man we're about to get him out of here. Trey, man, we appreciate you sliding on this, man. We're about to get up out of here before we get into any more trouble, man. Shout out to Mitchell and Nez one time for the one time again.

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