Club 520 Podcast - Club 520 x Hennessy - Jeff Teague & Baron Davis on BEATING Dirk’s Mavericks, Kobe Bryant playing in Drew League

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Baron Davis joins Jeff Teague and the Club 520 guys on the second stop of the Hennessy Arena Tour in the Bay Area. The Warriors LEGEND tells stories about winning as an 8-seed with against the 1-seed Dallas Mavericks led by Dirk Nowitzki, Jeff Teague talking trash to him when Baron played for the Knicks, having Kobe Bryant play in the Drew League, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:40 - Playing for Charlotte05:00 - Playing in today’s NBA07:00 - Playing with Mike Bibby10:00 - Playing for Warriors21:20 - Beating Dirk’s Mavericks as an 8 seed24:45 - Starting “small ball”32:00 - Baron Davis infamous dunk36:45 - When Jeff talked trash to Baron 39:00 - Involvement in the Drew League42:00 - When Kobe Bryant showed up to The Drew League46:00 - Thinking about life after basketball51:00 - Becoming a rapper #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? What's going on? Make some noise. We're here at Arena Club 520. What's going on? Make some noise. We're in Hennessy Arena Club 520. What's going on out here? First time in the area. Appreciate the love.

San Francisco been holding it down out here. But you know what it is. Club 520 podcast live in Hennessy Arena. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. We got a special guest. We got a legend to my far left. We're going to introduce my man's last.

But to my far left, we got my dog. Bishop B. Hen out the pearly shift. How you would, man? Cool and nasty, let's pop, baby. Normally my man's got on the Black Forces with the white laces, you know what I'm saying? He's switching it up, cause you know, on the road, but you know what I'm saying?

You gotta bring the staples out, let the people know how you were from the city, man. Nah, we gonna get BD a pair with you, about 13? 14. 14. 14, you rock with the Black Forces, BD? I know nobody on the contract wanna respect the- No, no, no, no contract. Okay, yeah, we gonna get you some Black Forces. Black Forces with the white? I know I might be on a contract. I want to respect the rules. No, no, no. No contract. Okay, yeah.

We're going to get you some Black Forces. Black Forces with the white laces. I'm going to get you together. Yeah, you got to perform in them joints. You live, you live. My dog to my right, young Nacho, young Teague. How you doing, man? I'm good, man.

Chilling, bro. Happy to be here with a legend. With a legend. One of my favorite players growing up. You know I have four favorite players. It was J. Will, Allen Iverson, BD, and Gilbert Arena. So it means a lot to me right here. For sure.

For sure. But to my left, we got a legend, you know what I'm saying? The man who went crazy. One of the reasons why this wonderful fan base for this team is even available to cheer for this team. A hooper, creative, and he also making music. We got the dog, Baron Davis, a legend from California in the building. Appreciate you pulling up the 520, big dog. For sure, for sure.

This shit is on. 520 is up. Y'all in the building. Appreciate you pulling up the 520, big dog. For sure, for sure. This shit is on. 520 is up. Y'all got the pie. Y'all got the convos cracking. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate that. Appreciate you. You already started the show with an interesting question.

You know what I'm saying? We know what you did in that Warriors jersey, but before you got there, you had one of the best jerseys of all time that people know in the hood. It's like that Mike Vick jersey. That number one Charlotte jersey. Yeah.

We want to talk about that time before you came here and did your thing here because that's a very important time in basketball that people don't know about, don't speak enough about. You coming out in the draft

going crazy like that. Yeah, it was wild, you know, because I'm from L.A., born and raised, and I never had my own room, right? So growing up, I slept in the living room. Then I'm like, all right, I get to college. I'm at UCLA.

Then Earl Watson, my roommate, so we got a shared room. And when I got to Charlotte, that was my first time, like, having something by myself. And so I always say Charlotte wasotte was a bible belt uh it was like the perfect place for me to go coming from l.a going into the league at that time you know what i mean and it was like damn dude it ain't really nothing to do here but who go to the gym go to the mall go to the movies so i go to the movies like three, four times a day cause I want shit to do. You know what I mean?

It's changed now. It's changed, it's crazy now. Y'all to Charlotte, respect. I wish it was like it was now back then, you know what I mean? Cause it's cracking now, but you know, just being on that team, you know, you got Anthony Mason, Derrick Coleman, Eldon Campbell.

It was like a big man league. Yes, sir. Come out, you got to throw the ball in, you know, you got to throw the ball in the post to start the game. Everything happened in the post. Slow down basketball. And I came off the bench my rookie year. I was the third pick.

Bro, I was the third pick. I came off the bench. Damn. That was true. That's crazy. That was true. Coach Silas was the coach, and he was like, I mean,

back then it was a thing where no matter where you were as a rookie, like, coaches didn't play rookies. And, like, that was, we were just getting into, like, high-pick franchise players starting. You only had a few, you know what I mean? Kobe came off the bench, you know what I'm saying? So it was just a time of, like, the older era. It was like a transition era. But for me, it was, like opportunity to like start being a man.

You know what I mean? But also it was humbling because I was playing like, I was playing 19 minutes a game. No more than that. Shit, I wish. 19 minutes a game, dog. And I'm just sitting there like hot. You watching Iverson go off.

You watching Jason Terry go off. Andre Miller. I didn't make the rookie game. You watching Jason Terry go off. Andre Miller. I didn't make the rookie game. It was actually here. Damn. The rookie. Sophomore game? Rookie sophomore game was here, and I missed that shit.

And I just remember sitting at home like, dog, I will never miss another one of these. You know what I mean? All-star weekends. And then it helped me work on my game, though. You know, because back then you had to, like, pass the ball on the post, spot up and shoot. That was it. Bro, if you play, pass the ball on the post, cut through. You don't have to.

You don't have to. I played with Joe Johnson. I already know. I already know. I read straight to the corner. And that's interesting. That's interesting to say that. Like I was gonna say this for later,

but like you said, that time period, obviously you and Kobe both had to sit behind Eddie Jones to start off your stuff. How was it now seeing guards come into league now and getting keys to franchises, and now you got a league where guards are encouraged to score, like to see your game, especially like your game,

like how y'all would've fit now coming into the league, having the keys to do whatever you want to? Man, shit. It'd be crazy, right? It'd be crazy. It'd be crazy. For me, I think I would have had a different mentality coming into the league. Because coming in at that time, it was like,

you got to be the best traditional point guard you could. So no matter what I could do, dunk, all that other shit, you know, pass. Like, they just wanted you to, like, play basketball fundamentally sound. Don't turn the ball over, bring the ball up, pass to the wing. You know what I mean? So you look at these dudes getting drafted and be like, here go the ball. Everybody else going to follow you. You can shoot as much as you want.

You can make turnovers like there's no like high esteem uh for fundamentals or high esteem for like turnovers and things like that you know what i mean so the freedom allow a lot of these kids now to just play to their talent and so i didn't even know what my full talent range was to my third, fourth year when you're like, fuck it. I'm going for all-star. I'm going to show them what I can do.

You know what I mean? Instead of coming in and being like, hey, show us what you can do. We're going to rock with you. It'd be way different. Did they let you rock that third year

or did you have to really earn it? The third year, I did real good my third year. I believe did i did real good my third year um like i believe like my sperm was hurt i make the all-star game uh but it was uh vince carter yes sir and he he got injured but vince carter was such a real one he hadn't played like the whole season he was watching he was like man no way i'm playing an all-star game you know what

i mean and it was like he he uh he was hurt so then that's way I'm playing in the all-star game, you know what I mean? And it was like, he was hurt. So then that's how I got the call. That was my first all-star game. Shout out to Vince, that's real. Yeah, that is real. Vince my dog. I always tell them, if I got handed the ball when I was a rookie, this podcast would've been

based out of Miami. It wouldn't have been based out of Indiana. I would've been a fool. I would've been living in Miami, yeah, on the beach. Yeah, what's up? $15 million career, it would have been a fool. I would have been living in Miami. Yeah, on the beach. Yeah. $15 million career. It would have been nasty. I would have been crazy.

But I always tell them that because, man, I had to come in in a row. I played after Mike Bibby. So I had to learn how he played. And he was more of a traditional point guard. He scored, but more traditional. And I came out of college shooting 15, 16 shots a game. So coming to – He's a killer in college, dude. Appreciate that.

But coming and passing the ball, going to the corner, I ain't know what to do. But like you said, if you had a different opportunity, it'll be a whole different story, I think. Yeah, and I play with Bibb too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Mike Bibb. The Knicks, yeah.

Yes, sir. Bibb is a funny dude, man. Wow, boy. That's my guy. One of the best teammates I ever had, dude. I'd never seen some dude. Like, I was bigger than Mike. I was damn near bigger than Mike Bibby my whole career.

Like, he was big. You know, he had size on him and shit. And, man, you look at Mike Bibby now. He can grab you like this and pick you up like a fucking Hulk. He WWE, bro. He got incredible Hulk muscles. Mike Bibby should wear Black Forces every day. He called me the other day. I He WWE, bro. That's probably where he got incredible Hulk muscles. Mike Bibby should wear black forces every day.

He called me the other day. I told him, bro. You might as well go pro wrestling, bro. You Brock Lesnar, bro. He should do the slap contest. He Vince McMahon?

No. Relax, bro. Put the allegations on Mike. My fault, my fault, my fault. But obviously, man, you did your thing with the Hornets, and then you got the opportunity, you know what I'm saying, to come play in the Bay.

How was it, your first transition coming from a new team, new situation, and obviously you came into a new situation with a new coach, but then Don Nelson came. How was that transition, like you said, getting able to actually do your thing? You was already established with your game. Now you got to just really show everybody how good you was. Yeah, man, it was crazy because we was in New Orleans.

So the team moved from Charlotte to New Orleans. And then, you know, New Orleans was like, oh, we got a basketball team? Like, win the games. You know what I mean? We had to like pass out flyers

and shit, you know, going to the game, like pass out tickets. Throw tickets out the window so people, you know, do a Mardi Gras, catch them and come to the game. So coming from New Orleans, I was already like-

Tickets with the bees is crazy. You know that was your first. It was there for a party for a moment. Basically, hey dawg, it was crazy. You have to fight for so much attention in the city, then you go to a Saints game and it's like, the whole New Orleans come to the game. But like for us, it was wild because people weren't really like, it was in the basketball new orleans come to the game but like for us it was wild because

people weren't really like it was in the basketball basketball wasn't like yeah like a thing and uh and then i had a lot of controversy leaving new orleans a lot of controversy disagreement a lot of disagreements i had a lot of shit going on when I was leaving New Orleans. So when I got here, I was like, man, I get a chance to turn my life around. You know what I mean? And I'm going to leave the homies alone. You know what I mean?

I'm going to leave all the extracurriculars alone and I got another chance to come and hoop. I walk in the first day, go to state warrior practice. I'm like, damn like damn dude who died in this in this motherfucker you know what i mean like nobody was talking to each other dude soon as practice was over everybody took one or two shots and got up out of there and i was like damn like you know it's like a walking corpse you know what i mean and so all

i wanted to do when i came here was like get these dudes some some energy you know what I mean? And so all I wanted to do when I came here was, like, get these dudes some energy. You know what I mean? Let them know, like, damn, dog, we got a chance to hoop no matter what. You got going on with the coach, management. Like, let's just go hoop. And, like, that's our therapy. You know what I mean? And so it started turning around, you know what I mean, when I got here.

And then it was lit. You know, we had won had won like seven games to finish the season seven games in a row and then I think people in the city just was like fuck it we start believing it you know what I mean they start believing that we could be something because they always did like every year Warrior

fans they were like fuck it we gonna be good until they wasn't you know what I mean but they still showed up to the games you know what I'm saying so like the whole up to the games, you know what I'm saying? So like the whole journey was like, man, it was packed from the time I checked in, my first game off the bench, it was packed already. It was already cracking.

And so I was like, damn, we got, I'm coming from New Orleans. You know, we struggling to get 10,000 people, 8,000 people. The year before in Charlotte, bro, we're in the playoffs, playing New Jersey, second round. There was 5,000 people at the game. That's crazy.

The arena seat, 22,000 people. It's 4,500 in here. Hey, bro, it was wild. Y'all was playing J-Kid. Bro, we had 5,000 people at our playoff home game. That was a JV game. That is crazy though. That's crazy.

We had no home court advantage at all. Like that last year was like, once one game around Christmas is snow, it was like a thousand people, if that, in the arena. That's crazy. You could hear shit. Like you could hear people having conversations. You know what I mean?

Almost like it was practice. Can I tell you a story we had on our podcast before? So he said this about a WNBA game one time. He said he was eating chicken fingers and he ran out of some. He told his cousin across the court, like, hey, grab some more. Don't laugh at that

shit, BD. Shout out to the W. This is about BD. You can't do it in field games no more. Kayla Clark came, them tickets done went up three times. Nah, for sure. But when did it start turning around and go and stay for you?

I'm saying for a minute. It didn't. I mean, it was like the last... No, wait. No, it didn't. Like, to be honest... Nah, it turned around, bro. Nah, I'm telling you, bro.

Everybody here knows the story. The next year, we end the season. I'm a back-to-back player of the week, though. So I'm like, oh, shit, I'm feeling good. Like, I'm back in my groove. And they fucking with me, you know what I mean? I can do whatever I want. J-Riz cracking.

We figure it out. Get to the end of the season. Everybody leave on a good note. come back in the training camp. We got a whole year with Mike Montgomery. Oh, man. That ain't going to work. You know what I mean? That wasn't going to work.

So we went back to, you know, he thought that, you know, college coaches, he thought that, like, he needed to have needed to have control and teach and teach. And we're like, man, you ain't teaching us nothing. We already know how to play basketball. Let us play basketball. So the next year came back and then we kind of was like hovering and struggling under Mike Montgomery. You know what I mean?

And so it was like, we made a bad draft pick. We kept making bad draft picks, I'll say that. So we weren't getting better in the draft. You know, like we kept making bad draft picks. You know, I say that. So we wasn't getting better in the draft. You know what I'm saying? Like we wasn't getting better in the draft. A lot of fans are here looking. Man, they know the real. They know the real.

You know what I mean? Dunleavy was beefing with the fans. You know what I'm saying? Which was crazy. It was the wildest shit ever, dude. Because Mike Dunleavy is a great teammate. He a great dude. He a great dude. He want to win.

And it was just like, it was almost like the other team bought tickets for plants. And they thought that they were Warrior fans. But they'd just be like, fuck you, Dunleavy. Mike, fuck you, too. They're like, no, don't leave him alone. Leave him alone, man. Like, hey, focus on the game. Sound like me in Minnesota.

That's how I was in Minnesota every game. I mean, I see, you know, it's tough. I went through that in New Orleans. That's how I got traded. I was sitting on the bench and hurt, and I'm watching Dan Dickow kill, and I'm watching the crowd go crazy, like, ah, ah. I'm like, dog, we 2-20. What the fuck?

Like, y'all cheering Dan Dickow name? Like, we 2-20. Like the fuck? Y'all cheering that dick out, man? We 2-20. I don't care. You know what I mean? But they was booing me. I wasn't even playing in New Orleans. It got to that point. But we had a lot of, it was just ups and downs, ups and downs.

And we couldn't turn the corner. They fire Mike Montgomery. Then they bring in Don Nelson. Yes, sir. Don Nelson come up. Remember DeJuan Wagner? Yeah. Then they bring in Don Nelson. Yes, sir. Don Nelson come, remember DeJuan Wagner? Yeah. We had DeJuan Wagner, Montae. We got a guy from our city named Andre Owens.

He came and tried out. Andre Owens came, tried out. So we like, we had the little warrior makeup. You know what I mean? Dunleavy was cool. Troy Murphy was kind of like, you know, man, you see everybody laughing,

bro. He was the daughter of Dan. Troy Murphy was done. You know, like, you know when a player is done, like, he done.

He was done here. He needed to, like, he was a good player. He was a double-double, but it was just like, he, he was,

he was drained, bro. It was like, he had, you know, you got to think, Jay Rich, Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Adonis Foyle, they had seven coaches. They had like seven coaches before I got there. So like you can imagine like, damn, we got another coach. They don't care who the coach is.

It's like, fuck, man, we got another coach. What are we doing now? So it was like we was hovering and we was cool, but we didn't have like, we didn't have a juice. And I remember Chris Mullin came to me. He was like, man, we're going to try to make this right. We're going to try to get this right. And wasn't nothing happening.

You know what I mean? And so towards the end of the trade deadline, it was almost like they came and it was like Steven Jackson, Al Herring. I was like, oh, hell yeah. We cracking now. You know what I mean? And so towards the end of the trade deadline, it was almost like they came in, it was like Steven Jackson, Al Herring. I was like, oh hell yeah, we cracking now. You know what I mean? Y'all sent Troy Murphy to Indiana. Y'all sent them two to the heart of Tar City. We sent Troy and Dunleavy and Ike Diago.

Yeah, we remember. I still think in that trade, we should have tried to keep Dunleavy. We would have been all right. Like he was like a missing piece for us. Like in that we believe when you think about what we needed. But we make the trade, right?

Everybody like, ah, shit, yeah, the homies here. We was getting our ass whooped. Everybody know we was getting our ass whooped. We still was like, couldn't get over the hump. You know what I mean? We couldn't get over the hump. And then Nelly was like, alright, well, shit, I see what I got. You know what I mean? We couldn't get over the hump. And then Nelly was like, all right, well, shit.

I see what I got. You know what I mean? Like, fuck it. We'll just wait till next year. And it was like not even halfway during the season. It wouldn't all start breaking? It wouldn't even all start breaking. I coached high school.

I did that this year. We lost like five in a row. You got to let them get to the city and get comfortable, bro. So, Nelson knew. Nah, bro. Come get comfortable. Chill out this season. Let's tank. Y'all buy y'all some new houses.

You know what I mean? We had went on the road. You know what I mean? So, we had went on the road. So, we was on the road. Just like struggling. And I got hurt right before All-Star weekend and

shit we was just hovering hovering and then after All-Star I remember we had a team meeting we had lost to Washington Gil had hit two free throws

and we had a team meeting and I was like man we if y'all motherfuckers wanna party I throw a party at my birthday end of the season but we got to start partying on the court you know what i mean so like if we make the court our party in our club then shit i go out every night we'll go out but

we had never really like before that dunleavy j rich uh troy murphy or donald foyle like that Jay Ridge Troy Murphy Adonafoya Like that crew They never hung out Yeah With Stack And Matt Stack And Matt Steven Jackson

Al Harrington And we already had Matt So like When they came It was like Now everybody had People to hang out with And then the young dudes

Wanted to hang out You know what I mean Cause it was like Now you got real NBA stories You know what I mean Stack telling stories Al Harrington out. You know what I mean? Because it was like, now you got real NBA stories. You know what I mean? Stack telling stories. Al Harrington telling stories.

You know what I mean? And so that kind of like built that little camaraderie. Then after that Washington game, I came back. We played Detroit. And everybody thought we was going to get our ass whooped. And we beat the shit out of them. And it wasn't like a game where it's like, oh, we beat them. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, we got a good one.

It's like, nah, they can't fuck with us. Like, we can fuck with them. You know what I mean? Like, we can match up good against Detroit. And Detroit was like one of the best teams in the league. And after that, we was like, shit, if we can beat Detroit, we can beat anybody. That's the turnaround, BD, right there.

That was it. That was it. But it happened because we was like, all right, fuck it. Everybody giving up on us. If we going to party, we going to party on the court. And then after the game, if we win, we going out. No, we went out every night.

Every time. We went out every night. I was like, God damn. That's what we're about to start doing with 520. Tonight. We winning. For sure. It was the wildest shit because we was like a rap group.

We was like the Wu-Tang going to like, we play and then we go to the club. Motherfucker was like, damn, it's Wu-Tang, Death Row, Bad Boy, whatever it was. We was cracking, yo. Every city. It didn't matter what city it was like we was cracking yo every city it didn't matter what city it was we was going to the club we was taking over the club

so you was setting shit up drinking got the hand going yes sir and then if I drink I'm going to go grab the mic so I would take the mic

that's where the rapping career started I would take the mic from the DJ you know what I mean and the DJ you know what I mean and who knows you know what I mean everybody was

hey everybody was in fire and rains when I got the mic nah but in serious no I think for real

that's what helps teams come together when y'all hang out off the court that chemistry yeah that chemistry mesh like well when y'all get on the court

for sure I'll probably say y'all team was like that. Y'all look like that Joe Johnson team. Ah, we went out early, though. Turn my boy out, pause. That's great. That's great. That's great.

That's a different scene to say that. Listen, I'm going to keep it cool. I'm going to keep it cool. At the right time and media. I'm going to keep it cool. We ain't at home, bro. I was going to say something out of pocket, but let home, bro. I would have said something out of pocket. I was just saying, that's where your life chance ran.

They put you on the game. No, we went out of every city. It wasn't a gentleman's club that I didn't know about. For sure. For sure. So, obviously, man, y'all get this together going into the season, and then you get into the playoffs, and that's where the magic happens. Like, it's very rare that you see.

Obviously, that was a historic situation, you know what I'm saying? Y'all being the AFC, beating the 1C. But, like, y'all went into that matchup very confident, and you can tell. It wasn't like, oh, we about to get them. It was like, nah, we got this handled, and y'all was playing against dirt. Yeah, we had beat them, them like six games in a row. And we had beaten them with Troy Murphy, Mike Dummy. That's T-Murf.

Adonel Foyle, Jay Rich. And so we had beat them with that squad. I had, at the time, I don't even think I had played against Dallas yet. Damn. Because I had missed a couple games. Jay Rich hit a buzzer beater or something like that in Dallas. But for some strange reason, when you look at Golden State versus Dallas, we had their number.

Yeah. So when we came into the playoffs, like, I'll never forget. The first day of practice, I had never seen Nelly move so fast, talk so fast. It's like, hold on. Like, this is a whole new dude he was like yeah I know how to beat him shut the fuck up do what I tell you

and if you do it every time I don't care what happened if you do it every time we're gonna win and he knew you know he grew up Josh Howard you know what I mean he put that team together that was really like his team and he gave it to Avery Johnson.

So we knew that Dirk was going to dribble right and spin or dribble left and spin. So anytime Dirk went to dribble on that second dribble, if he was getting ready to spin and somebody wasn't there,

you're getting out the game. You may not ever go in the game again. So once we started doing that, we was really disrupting Dirk timing. So if you watch the games, like he was balling still, but he couldn't get comfortable. You know how it is. It's like, man, I'm scoring, but like I ain't been to my spot. He ain't got to his spot all game.

You know what I mean? man, I'm scoring, but like, I ain't been to my spot. He ain't got to his spot all game. You know what I mean? And then Josh Howard, we had, he was the next, you know, important person for them because he was like, they glue guys, scoring good. And he went left all the time. For sure. Definitely left. So all his game was left.

So we was like, don't let him go left. Jason Terry couldn't go left. He went right all the time you know what I mean so it was just like everything was just precise it was detailed and he was like we're gonna beat these dudes he said it the first day he said

we gonna beat them that's what you gonna do stay humble in the media don't say none always get them praise and just act like we lucky you know what I mean just act like we lucky. You know what I mean? Just act like we lucky. But we had their number because on the other end, it was just hard for them to match up.

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Right? If they tried to play a matchup, which they did, which we didn't think they were going to do. Right. The first game was the dictator because they took the dude out the starting lineup, Dampierre. Yeah, I was going to say the big dude. They took the big dude out the starting lineup, Dampierre.

Yeah, I was going to say the big dude. They took the big dude out the starting lineup. I played with Damp too. And he played here for the Warriors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you take him out the lineup, like he looking for revenge. He got drafted here. And then when he was in the game, like he was dunking.

You know what I mean? That's six, eight easy points for him. Yeah. But when they took him out the lineup, we was like, oh shit. Christmas. They trying to play our game. You know what I mean? It ain't gonna work like that.

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I mean, it was already Started like You know From history Hold on BD Tell your story King He just wanna Nah I think they started The small ball

Because I think Like they took Dan Peer out Like we started The three point shooting shit Don't worry about that But the small ball They started that bro Cause they took

They took like you said Took Dan Peer out the game They tried to match up with them When they played the game Now you got BD going at Dirk and all these dudes, and it's like, it ain't fair. Harrington played a five. Like, they was revolutionary with that. I mean, I think a lot of times when you balling like that, the announcers say,

oh, they just out there playing. They don't, you know what I mean? It's like street ball. It's like, fuck you, man. Like, this is high intellectual basketball. To move that fast to be thinking like that be all thinking

on one accord you gotta have some intelligent people on your team you know what I mean and so I think for us if you watch I would say

we didn't start small ball but we started like mismatch basketball yeah for sure you know what I mean you got me

Stack Al Matt Barnes Jay Rich out there Amante me Jay Rich Stack You know what I mean? You got me, Stack, Al, Matt Barnes, J. Rich out there, Amante, me, J. Rich, Stack, and Matt. And what we started realizing was basketball is every team has one or two really good players you got to worry about. Yeah.

The third and the fourth guy are really good too but you know they're not they're not comfortable as those first two you know what i mean and so if you play to the tiers right and say like we ain't gonna stop your main guy but we're gonna disrupt your main guy and then the second tier and the third tier dudes they're not getting nothing facts you know what i mean because they are more limited you know what i mean? Because they are more limited, you know what I mean, for what they can do for the team. You know what I mean? And they don't have as much freedom as the Dirk.

You know what I mean? Or as KG. So we would just watch teams and be like, oh, we playing against Boston and they got Kendrick Perkins and KG. It's like, oh, yeah, we going to run them. Because anybody can guard Perk. You know what I mean? Shut up to Perk.

But anybody on our team, we didn't care who guarded Perk. You know what I mean? Y'all have big wings, though, that can guard anybody, though. Yeah, think about it. If Boston start posting up Kendrick Perkins to play against us, right?

Because it's a mismatch, right? So you're gonna be like, damn, that's a mismatch. So you start creating dissension. You know what I mean? For sure. Like, if we don't guard, who was the center on y'all team? Boy, you had a lot of them, boy. Kyle Horford.

Kyle Horford. Kyle Horford. Kyle Horford. Y'all had a squad. Y'all had a squad. Y'all was difficult, though. Y'all couldn't guard them like y'all guarded them. Nah, they were a matchup problem.

For sure. You know, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson was unguardable. And then this motherfucker was just fast as hell. Then you got Kyle Corver. You can't even, you know what I mean? It was a lot of, they got they created a whole little they were like the us in the

east. Facts. They were like the us in the east. Yeah, we tried to disrupt LeBron. That didn't work though. You said that two dribble left feedback. We was there. That didn't work, though. Yeah, you said that two dribble left feedback. We was there. It didn't work. Y'all was putting

the wrong dudes on LeBron. We ain't had nobody. Y'all supposed to bring the dudes off the bat. Yeah, that's the problem. That's crazy. That's the problem. You supposed to bring

the hacks in first, right? They came in, too. Nah, man. You supposed to tell the hacks. You want to smart guy Ivan Johnson? Aw, man. He can't guard no LeBron.

Nobody can. Hey, he supposed to say, Ivan Johnson? Oh, man, he can't guard no LeBron. He's supposed to say, Ivan Johnson, you're filing out today. I don't care. First quarter, man, come on, dude. If I'm in his ear, hey, I need six. I need six. I need six fouls. It ain't even okay. Your stat line is crazy. I don't care what. I get you a bucket. EBD, fuck the bag. It ain't even no game.

I don't care what, I get you a bucket. Hey, if Ivan Johnson got six pounds, the game would have been over. The game is over, bro. Bro, you seen Ivan Johnson? We was terrified when we seen that dude come in the game. He played with a grill for real, bro. Hey, this dude was sick, dude. Bro, yeah.

He came in the game. Dude was like, hey, hold on. That's my wedding first time, bro. Hey, who was that? He had 32 goals, bro. Yeah. Hey, dog, I love that dude. I did, too. He was a dog.

He came in the game looking like, hold on, man. Who signed him? You know the real story about that? He just showed up. He got cut, bro, and came back to practice. And they were scared to, like, tell him to leave. Oh, yeah, for sure. I swear.

I swear to God. He got cut and then came back to practice. And they was like, who going to tell him to leave? Nobody. And he started practicing again. And everybody was like, y'all got to keep him, man. Y'all got to keep him. No, that's fire.

I swear to God. Yeah, because everybody on the team was probably scared, too. I ain't telling you to go home, shit. I ain't going to lie. I was scared the whole time. Real 44. Imagine if you had to tell him, like, hey, bro, I don't think they want you in here. Bro, he came back, bro.

That's crazy. Legend. But obviously, we know what you did. Y'all took care of bits with the Mavs. And in the next round, you had one of the most iconic, legendary dunks in the NBA history, man. How was it going against that Jazz team? Because a lot of people don't understand.

That Jazz team was lit. Like, D-Will, Booze. That was one of the most underrated two-man games in the league. They were real good. They were like a machine. You know what I mean? For sure. I felt like if we could have got past Utah,

we were a bad matchup for san antonio oh for sure we're a bad matchup for san antonio because we can guard tim duncan with beatrice and let tim duncan eat and then everybody else you know what i mean but that boozer d will was just like they were they were just bigger than us. You know what I mean? And really it was like after the Dallas thing, it was like you riding a high. And if you like, if you can't keep that shit going, and there's a moment where it's like two or three days and you like can sit and settle in,

then it's hard to get back. You know what I mean? So we had one 18 out of 22 to get there. Then when we got there, it was like, you know, remember the first round we won in game six, but I got kicked out game two. Stack got kicked out. We had the Friskin thing, you know, when we came home. So it was just all kind of like, then I had the fedora hat with the bullets. They tried to get me kicked out. You was wild. I was suspended. That was sick the fedora hat with the bullets. They tried to get me kicked out. You was wild.

I was suspended. That was sick. That was the same. You know, that was NBA fashion, bro. It was like, hey, the playoffs coming. You know, ain't nobody really dressing up. Let me throw this bullet fedora on. That was before Tunnel Fitz, by the way.

Oh, bro, that was right before Tunnel Fitz. For sure. And then they was complaining, like, oh, this fool got live rounds in his hat. You know what I mean? Like, you just about to throw me. You was really wilding, baby. You was wilding. You was wilding.

You was really wilding with that. I mean, I was fashion. You know, I bought it. It was a fashion hat. It was hard, though, but you wilding. You wilding. You wilding. It wasn't live rounds.

It was hollow shells. I just want to ask you, what was going through your mind when you dunked that though? Because as a fan, we all was watching. When you dunked it and pulled up and y'all see you had a waist trainer on. I was like, damn, my nigga got a waist trainer on?

DB got the first BBL on the list. Don't do BD like that. You got one now, nigga. You got the real one now. You know, you've been looking awful different since that nigga's been traveling. Shout out to Henny Arena.

I'm sorry. Henny got you right. Shout out to my dog, BD. That was a back brace, right? So I had this back brace. Oh, shout out to my dog, Vito. Oh my God, right? That was a back brace, right? So I had this back brace. Oh my God. And Nelly used to get on us about our weight.

So I would put this back brace on and get my back warm. And obviously, that came around my stomach. So when I dunked, I just pulled. I didn't know what the fuck to do. I didn't even know I made it. Until I looked over to the side, and dudes was like. Nah, that shit was know what the fuck to do. I didn't even know I made it. You know, until I looked over to the side and dudes was like. Nah, that shit was crazy. That shit was crazy.

You couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't hear nothing. All I could see was people just stunned. And then that's when I was like, all right, let me, you know, let me get my walk. And then Stack came, bro. It was epic. It wasn't like none of that shit was playing.

I just pulled my shirt up like, get in my belly. I used to play. I used to be like Fat Bastard. You used to say that shit in practice all the time because Nelly used to fuck with me about my weight. For sure. Nah, that shit was crazy. That's probably top five dunks, bro. Especially in the playoffs.

Yeah, that's crazy. It was cool. I knew I was going to get him now because he winked at me the play before. Oh, word. So you got to watch the play before because I did the same exact move and I laid it up. Yeah. And he was standing under the baseline right there. And when I laid it up, he looked at me when he took the ball out and he was like, all right.

I'm going to meet you at the... So I was like, I'm about to try this shit again. I said, if I get there, I'm about to try this shit again. I said, if I get there, I'm going to try. But when I got and I turned the corner, he was right in the same spot. I said, man, I'm about to try this, dude. And when I dunked it, I thought the ball had bounced up. But it was like deafening. Everybody was just like, I saw Adonofoil like oh my god

I was like oh shit I got his ass you know what I mean my favorite dunk you had was against Jermaine O'Neal though that shit was nasty I gotta tap into YouTube if y'all ain't seen it do your research the one in Charlotte that shit was nasty

it was fun man I think for me like people always think that, oh, he was a dunking point guard. You know, like I ain't even like, I wasn't even tripping on that shit. I just like dunking, cause I could dunk. But I was more into like passing, handles, you know, like the bop, like trying to create my own bop.

But I always get credit for like- No, you the first explosive point guard in the league. Nah, but I watched you at like EBC in New York and stuff. So we, I'm a fan. Yeah, we tapped in, bro. I already knew you had handles you can create, you can pass. And my best friend back home named Phil. Shout out to Phil.

He like your biggest fan. What's up, Phil? Nah, Phil, yo, really. So he was a- Nah, for real, for real. Nah, for real, like he post your highlight tape at least once a month. I'm like, all right, my nigga, like, post mine, shit.

Who your nigga been? Nah, I feel close, bro. Fuck with you, for real, bro. For real. But he kept, like, he had put me on the way you play. He like, bro, you trippin', he the best point guard, because I used to like Steph Marmarbury, too. Then I started watching you play, I'm like, damn.

I'm trying to play like that. You was throwing it around people here and shit. I'm like, damn, I'm trying to play like that. You was throwing it around people here and shit. I'm like, ah, yeah, this kind of shit. I like, yeah. You had the size advantage too, though. That's why I was like, damn, this nigga a little heavy. Nah, I had to guard him, bro. The first time I stepped on the court, I'm a fan.

I'm looking. I'm like, how the fuck he this big? I'm 6'1", 180 at my best. I'm like, man, fuck, I'm going to guard him. And you know him. He come in like, how the fuck he this big? I'm 6'1", 180 at my best. I'm like, man, fuck, I'm going to go at him. And you know him. He come in like, what the fuck? I said, oh, shit. I'm trying to be hard.

I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. Like, what's up? Like, shit. I was scared as hell. Same thing, bro. I think it's when you're young, you're a rookie, and you're going up against some dudes, cause I was like that with GP.

And I was like, damn, this fool got me on the block. You know what I mean? Like, yo, whatever you do, don't let GP post you up. Cause he gonna elbow you, you know what I mean? It's like, run down and turn and spin. Cat asked for the ball, man, I was, boom, boom. I was elbowing him in the back. ball. Man, I was boom, boom. I was elbowing him. I was like, call a pilot.

You want to see me score? Hey, bro, it's scary. You know, when you're young, he's like, damn, that's GP. Damn, that's J.K. Damn, that's Iverson. Damn, that's Marbury. Stephon Marbury did me so cold my rookie year. I had just gotten a game.

He was hot. He go to the hole, score him, and get an and one. Shoot a three. He had already had like 24 in the first half. And he get an and one. He like, ah, these, da, da, da, da, you can't hold me. And he was like, oh me, you know what I mean? Like in my face.

And I didn't know what to do. You know, I'm like, damn. Eldon Campbell was like, ooh, you gonna let him talk to you like that? I was like, it's on. It's on after the game, homie. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, I don't really be talking.

I don't talk trash. You know what I mean? I'm not like out there talking trash. So my natural response is like, all right, dude, I'm about to clothesline this dude. You know what I mean? Like I was just automatically mad, but but it was like you just nervous playing against dudes you watch play yeah or somebody that you heard about that you like damn like i know i watched him play but i never played

against him like you always got that little nervous and that's what make the league so fun yeah because then full circle come back i I'm playing with the Knicks, and you know, I'm struggling at this point. I'm like older, my body breaking down. And this one right here, he just pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew. Like just fucking me up. And talking shit the whole time.

And I'm like, why is this motherfucker talking shit to me? You know what I mean? Like, I ain't didn't, I don't even know this dude. I don't know him. I ain't said nothing to him. But he just, you can't fuck with me. Old ass. Get his old ass off the court.

And Melo, at some point, Melo was like, hey, bro, you got to stop letting him talk to you like that. Don't trip, Melo. I'm going to catch him in the summer. I didn't know what else to do. Hey, that's why Jeff ain't never played in UCLA. I ain't got no Drew league. Once he said that, I ain't been to the Drew league. I'm staying on the East Coast. Speaking of that, a lot of people don't know, like,

your involvement behind those two things. Like, for me, speaking of that, a lot of people don't know your involvement behind those two things. For me, Rico Hines is a YouTube, I look forward to that every summer, to see them runs. And then you talk about the Drew League. How is that, being a part of two things that's so important in basketball, you have your own direct fingerprint on that.

Yeah, I would say for me, when I came in the league, it was a lot of LA players, but they weren't LA like, LA famous. You know what I mean? They all went off to college and other colleges and shit like that. So for me, it was like, man,

I got to do something for the next generation because, like, LA don't get no credit. Like, I'm out here, and I ain't seeing it. The homies back home is better than a lot of these dudes. So, like, I wanted to invest my time in the next generation. You know, James, Poo, you know, all them dudes, Bobby Brown, Trevor, Darrell Wright. Like, it was like, yo, if we can create something that's dope for us in L.A.,

then we can make L.A. like the record. We got the Drew. We got the real run over here. And so it was first, like, get the real run cracking. And then the Drew was like, the Drew was already in the hood. So nobody was going to the Drew. I took Tyronn Lue to the Drew, though. Shout out to T. Lue.

I took T. Lue to the Drew when he was playing for the Lakers. And he was like, hey, bro, don't ever take me back. I'm cool. You know what I mean? I don't need a Saturday bro, don't ever take me back. I'm cool. You know what I mean? I don't need a Saturday, Sunday morning run like that. Like, I'm cool. It's 12 dudes in the gym, and they all talking shit. Three of them got jerry curls.

You know what I mean? And so I think for L.A., it was like, man, be a staple. Be a staple. You know what I mean? And with the Drew, it was sitting right there. And Poo, LB, Trevor, the year of the lockout, Clay Thomas,

JaVale McGlee, JaVale, who else? James, DeRozan, all them dudes was hooping in the Drew. Craig Smith, it was a bunch of dudes. And I came back and I was like, damn,

like y'all the next wave. I wanna invest my time in y'all. And then when Rico, Rico was coaching, not coaching, training, not training. And he, I think it was at St. John's. And then he was like, man, I don't know what I'm doing. I want to do this. I said, bro, we're going to create a logo, go back to UCLA.

We're going to start filming. And we're going to make you like our version of the West Coast Chris Brinkley. That's real. You know what I mean? And so shout out to Chris Brinkley because he was doing it. And I was like, Rico, that's all you need to do. So we put the cameras on Rico. And then that's how now his shit is cracking.

Motivational, bro. Rico a godfather for sure, bro. That's my whole thing in L.A. Like, a lot of dudes may not give me credit. A lot of dudes may not, you know, or they may. But my goal was just to stand behind people or be the ladder that somebody need, push a ladder to them, you know what I mean? Or push opportunity to them.

So it was, you know, hoop, off court, on court, like how do we bring this whole little thing together? For sure, I mean, and before we get off this point, like for me, loving YouTube and like loving basketball, to see y'all document like Kobe pulling up to the Drew, was crazy. Like that's a big moment for a lot of people in basketball because it changed a lot of trajectory for that era kids

and like you said, for the Drew itself. Man, the Kobe moment, I wasn't there because I brought LeBron. Yes, sir. The day before, literally the day before. Show you Kobe power, though. Find out LeBron. Oh, LeBron at the Drew.

Everybody going crazy, right? About 6 o'clock, somebody like, yo, Kobe coming up here tomorrow. I'm like, who is Monday? He's like, so what? Kobe said he want to get a game in. I was like, all right, like, who going to play? I go out of town. Everybody in they mama showed up on a Monday, dog.

It wasn't even a – LeBron, we brought him to the Drew to play in a game. Kobe was sitting at home. I was like, hold on, let's set this up for me. Every pro, every young pro came out, out and it was up i think that turned a corner for la because now like kobe was right there they ain't never seen kobe you know what i mean like especially the young dudes like you don't never see ko that's kobe yes sir kobe came to the kobe came to the hood by himself on his own there. Now, that's, you know what I mean, on the east side.

So Kobe coming to the east side was way bigger than that. You know what I mean? It's way bigger news because, you know, he a god out there. Facts, bro. Like, we watched Kobe grow up. So for him coming to the hood that day, it's like, it's just like layers. Kobe here, Kobe here. Like, you bullshitting.

Kobe here, Kobe here. To where nobody can get in the gym, nobody can get in the park. And the fact that, shout out to Josiah Johnson and Chris Young. Yes, sir. They had to wear what they ought to film it. Cold, bro. That's why I knew James Harden was real, though. Yeah.

Going back and forth. James was like grooming himself. James studied Kobe. Boy. You's when I knew James Harden was real, though. Yeah. Going back and forth. James was like grooming himself. James studied Kobe. Boy. You know what I mean? And so James got a lot of just like that offensive repertoire. You know what I mean? That iso thing was crazy. For sure.

When did you start thinking about life after basketball? What point of your career did you start thinking about other business endeavors like uh outside of hoop after my first contract well uh i wanted to make it to the nba i wanted to get a rookie contract and if i got a rookie contract it was gonna be enough to last me for the rest of my life that's real i tore my acl in college acl surgeries was like you don't know how much how long you got and in that era it was like after your rookie deal if you ain't cracking you out you know what i mean especially for a point guard like or are you backing up you know what i'm saying so for me, it was like, once I got the max, I was like, okay, I'm a businessman

now. You know what I mean? And I did my own deal. So I was my own agent in the deal. So that's what made it. That's what sent me to like, oh shit, I gotta take care of myself. I gotta fend for myself. It was a good idea

to not have an agent, but at the same time, bro, I didn't have an agent. I was 22 years old. And it was me, Rico, Ty, Ramazar, Earl was around us, but he was hooping and still in college. Ray Young. And it was just my... We like a real life entourage. And it was like just trying to navigate the league and say yes and no to deals. We were like, man, I was like, fuck it. If I put anybody on, I'm going to put the homies on.

Out the gap. Out the shit, yeah. And so they want to be in the league. They want to be agents. They want to be coaches. Right. Like, man, y'all just rock with me. You know what I mean?

And anytime we get a call or we had a little P.O. box set up back in the day. agents they want to be coaches right like man y'all just rock with me you know what i mean and anytime we get a call or we had a little po box set up you know back in the day so anything went to the po box we sit there we'd be chopping it up and be like all right look i want to do that all right let's go there you know what i mean so it was always like use me to get in yeah i don't think i ever approached the league after that as like it's all about me. You know what I mean? I wasn't the person that was like

basketball was everything and it's my creativity, my piece but it was always like damn dude I'm here. How many, who can I help? You know what I mean? Who can I help? Because I'm just a fan of the game so to be on the court with these dudes and to play against an Iverson or a Marlboro is like, man, I done made it.

You know what I mean? How can I help other people get in this space? Because it can save lives, you know? For sure. And I think, like, now, you would have really, really thrived today. The way that the NBA endorses people to show their brand and creativity and stuff like that, because obviously you one of the most creative people to ever touch a basketball. Then you used the NBA endorses people to show their brand and creativity and stuff like that? Because obviously you one of the most creative people to ever touch a basketball. Then you use the NBA program.

Like, how was that coming about? Like you said, all right, now I'm a businessman. I got this relationship with the league. I'm going to just use this to build my brand and help everybody else see, too. Man, it was just, I was doing whatever I wanted to do, honestly. As far. You know, you're 23. You got a lot of money.

You have no mentors you have nobody leading you know what I mean? It was like I was really like really one of the first ones that was like from L.A. to do it so it wasn't like

older people reaching out like yo you trying to do that? Let me help you out. You know what I mean? It was more so like oh shit like let me see how I can get on. Everybody was like really just like trying to do that let me help you out you know what I mean it was more so like oh shit like let me see I can get on everybody was like really just like trying to get on trying to get on trying to get on so for me I was just like I'm just gonna do all this shit myself I'm gonna take the experience

I'm gonna learn the experience and then I'm gonna figure out along the way what worked for me. Right. And so even though I'm in the NBA, my business as an agent, I'm an outsider looking in. So I got to make relationships with the equipment manager, with the VP of marketing, with the salesperson. Like, I need to know what everybody do. So they don't know I ain't got no agent. Someone I'm asking questions. You know what I mean? You're learning the game. I come up on the deal. You know what everybody do so they don't know i ain't got no agent someone i'm asking questions you know what i mean you learn again i come up on the deal you know what i mean and that's how um that's what happened with vitamin water i was with sprite and my rep for sprite was leaving sprite to go to vitamin water and i didn't understand like i could not understand why he was leaving and taking less

money to go to a company that like wasn't even a big company yeah and that's how i learned startup and he told he told me like this is a startup company and i was like what the fuck is a startup company it was like oh that's how uh remember power a got bought for 80 million dollars yes sir i was like damn if i take this sprite money for three years like cool I'll be cool I may get a commercial I ain't getting no commercial you know what I mean I'm gonna go and take this

vitamin water deal cause I'm already on billboards out here and I can use my leverage to help them get in the game equity and that's how it happened and I was like I wanna learn marketing cause that was my home I was like yo if you learn marketing cause that was my home. I was like, yo, if you leaving, I'm going with you.

Just teach me how to do marketing, like teach me marketing codes and like the things y'all look for to like build the brand. So I was there and I watched Vitamin Water hire the right people, put all the right people in position, bring in rock stars and the brand just like, by the time I got here at Golden State,

I remember I went to a conference bringing rock stars in the branch it's like by the time i got here at golden state i remember i went to a conference and it was in oakland at like the hilton or something it was like 500 sales reps in there i was like damn yeah i'm moving up you know what i mean and it was cool because i got a chance to be a part of a company in my journey that started after me and finished way before me in accelerated times. So they went from $15, $30 million company to a $4 billion exit. Crazy. Crazy, bro.

So that was your first initial investment was Vitamin Water. That was my first investment. That was my first time I was like, you know what? Ain't nobody doing equity deals for their brand. You know what I mean? And investing income. People weren't really doing that. They was buying car washes, you know what I mean?

Restaurants, fast food chains, parking lots, real estate. There wasn't nobody really like thinking about being an entrepreneur. We weren't taught that. You know what I mean? We weren't taught that. The NBA wasn't coming by saying like, yeah, be an entrepreneur. You know what I mean? They't taught that the nba wasn't coming by saying like yeah be an entrepreneur you know what i mean they were like yo save your money because people out here trying to take your money you know it was like that that type of financial literacy conversation that's far and obviously now um they do a good job of making sure y'all were having programs

available for the players who went through the process and vets and that nature to all right once you leave here we got these opportunities opportunities for you all to stay around, making money rights, things like that. Before we get out of here, man, tell the people what you got going on, man. What's new with you? You know what I'm saying? You know you be in the studio.

And I got, we about to launch Slick TV, so I just been cooking up my little podcast talk show. Nice. Okay, shout it out, shout it out. WC and CJ Mack got a show so we're gonna be basically uh launching like our whole live stream 24 7 channel uh and the whole point is for us as the culture to have to be on tv and so that's what you know we've been working on and then uh i got uh a character that I created called Bart Oatmeal. Yes, sir. And he rap, make music, produce, and DJ.

So we got two projects that are coming out over the next three, four weeks. And then my birthday, April 13th, my first live show with a bunch of dudes. So shout out to Big Rich. I know he in here. Shout out Big Rich. Big Rich, in the background. Big Rich, Bay Area legend. We got Mr. Fab.

I tell you, my goal was to make music with all the dudes I admire, respect, was in my age range, you know what I mean? And really, I was just trying to get some credibility because my brother was like bro nobody's gonna take you serious as a rapper like he was always saying you're a hooper you're a hooper first and i was like fuck that i'm gonna make myself a rapper you know what i mean i'm gonna validate myself as a rapper and build and build this character so the rap dudes can fuck with the character

and then Baron Davis can be their friend. You know what I mean? And so now it's turning, you know, Bart O'Mill get a ball, y'all be able to download the music. It's cool, it's a vibe, you know what I mean? So that's really what I've been on like that and just working on writing scripts and things like that. I'm coming out with not WTF, my little series I have,

but a different version of it. So I just finished that, so I'm working on that too. I'm just trying to entertain people, make them laugh and shit. You know what I mean? All right. What rapper that you would want to work with, though, that you probably ain't got in contact with yet? Like, what's a...

Because you probably in contact with all the L.A. and every area of people, but is there somebody that you'd be like, damn, I'd love to have this person on the track? Fucking with Bart. I mean, obviously, Dre. Okay. Yeah, Dre, Kendrick. Come on, LA, make it happen.

50 Cent. Fuck with 50. Yeah. He's going to have you in power. Be careful. That's fine. Out the gate tonight, too. Yeah, let me get on power.

Me, too. I'm trying to get on there. Who else? Juvenile. Juvie. And Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne, but you and Wayne, boy. Yeah, I need a joint with Wayne.

Who finishing the track? You or Wayne? Who last? Wayne got to finish. He got to finish. My man. Okay. He got to finish.

Would you do a track with any other hooper like Dame? Yeah, hell yeah. I've been trying to get Dame on the record. Come on, Dame. We on wax with it. I think Dame, when I talk to Dame, I think he think it's Baron Davis trying to get a record from him. But it's like, no, Bart Oakmill trying to make some people be confused with the two.

But I fuck with Dame music. We always talk about this at our spot. It's like, who are the best hoop rappers or hoop musicians? And so I do want to put together a project where we can get everybody on a record, you know what I mean, on an album. It be you, Shunk, Dame.

Bridges. Bridges. My house is hard as fuck. Oh my God, he hard as fuck, bro. Y'all gotta let Miles do the video. Bones Highland hard, he dope. Bones rap? Hell yeah.

I gotta tap in. Bones tough. You gotta put the OG on there too. Rozier, he tough. You gotta put Diesel on there. Just for some OG touch. You can let Vic sing the hook. Oh, Oladipo.

Yeah, Oladipo sing the hook. He cold too. There's somebody else who sing too in the league. Oh, you know who else called and rapped? Triple J. Oh, for real? He got a sick little EP. I did see him rap.

Yeah, I think it's Triple J or Trip J. Jaren Jackson. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I seen his rap video too. Yeah, look it up. Boy, Park Tudor hear about that, they gonna be mad. No, it's hard, it's hard.

You gonna like it, it's a vibe. Okay. Like the cool thing about these young dudes, Yeah, look it up. Rob Markman, Boy, if R2 to hear about that, they gonna be mad. Rob Markman, Nah, it's hard. It's hard. You gonna like it. It's a vibe. Rob Markman, Okay. Rob Markman, Like the cool thing about these young dudes, man, is like they have creative freedom and they can beat Excel. Rob Markman, Thanks, bro. Rob Markman, And they don't give a fuck.

You know what I mean? It's like they hoop all day. They love to hoop. And now they know, like if my hobby is Twitch and playing video games, you can do that. If I want to make music, you can do that. You got plenty of time in the day. And I think a lot of times, in our era, people didn't know that we had hobbies. They just thought practice, show up on TV, and never see... Whatever the media wanted to show was who your brand was.

Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, Now, since social media, you can say, hey, I hoop, but I'm also in the fact... You can communicate. Rob Markman, Nah, I'm fixed. Rob Markman, You know what I mean? So these dudes is like, they just going up being who they want to be, you know? And I just feel like all of it is like a shade of like all the things that I was fighting for to like be for myself, you know what I mean?

So I can just, all I want to do is just give roses and you know what I mean? Be a fan and support, you know, this next generation. You think Instagram would have messed up the league back when you came in? Yeah, for sure. Cause y'all had a lot of. We could have had none of that. That we believe team boy.

Bro, we could have no way. We wouldn't even made it. The whole team would have been suspended. Twitter would have lit your ass so far. What? Twitter, we would have had beef in cities. People would have Lifted your ass so far What? Twitter We would have had Beef in cities People would have been waiting

People would have been waiting Y'all was real different I can't say it But you gotta have One of my teammates Cause we I used to grab the mic And say some wild shit

Come on Matt We need you on the show Come on the show man Yeah you gotta get Matt and Stack You know we went out New Year's Eve. We played Houston. We beat Houston.

And you know, we got homies on the Rockets. So they came and fucked with us in the club. We in A-City. I go grab the mic and say fuck everybody. Everybody on the Houston Rockets except my homeboy right there. Bozzy. Lou, Martin, Luther,

you know, just like we were so cool that other, you know, like even though we had homies on other teams, you know, like I ain't really coming to Atlanta and me and you going out unless it's like we went to school together. We got hit, man. We was having all kind of dudes on other teams coming out with us like man we fucking with y'all where y'all going tonight yeah

it's like it's going up now that's hard man we can do this all day we gotta get up out of here make some noise for Baron Davis one time one time

appreciate it appreciate you rocking with us sir appreciate you man know what it is club 520 here appreciate y'all rocking with us till the next time

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