Club 520 Podcast - Indianapolis ft Mike Epps

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Mike Epps pulled up to 520!We discuss his journey in the entertainment industry, supporting the hometeam, his iconic movie roles, the effects of social media in comedy, the Montgomery Brawl, a Harlem ...Nights remake and much more!Like Share & SubscribeFollow us everywhere @club520podcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 They kind of lose their shit. Are you a king after your whore or a queen after your whore? It's rehabilitation stage. Okay. We'll talk. It's levels. That's a different 12 steps. Yeah. Because you can recover from being a whore,
Starting point is 00:02:52 but the Scrabble letters ain't no recovery. No, they ain't. Once you step over in that lane, it's over with. What's the letters? What you say if you automatically... A, B, C, D, E, F, G. You get them in Scrabble You automatically win You automatically win a game
Starting point is 00:03:08 Cause you ain't spellin' shit Yo that's crazy You ain't spellin' a motherfuckin' thing Ay man that was in our comments Laughing like But it said scrabble letters I was like damn Y'all finally caught it
Starting point is 00:03:19 Brother T Lawrence Center Nope Pike Went to Pike Yeah Damn I should've went to Northwest though Brother T. Lawrence Center. Nope. Pike. Went to Pike? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I should have went to Northwest, though. Northwest? Yeah, I was going to Northwest. I grew up. You would have made it from Northwest? Shit. That's where I grew up over in the area. Ooh-wee. So I went between Gateway and Howellville in the land. Northwest. You went to Tech, right? Yeah, I went between Gateway and Highville in the land.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Northwest. You went to Tech, right? Yeah, I went to Dusty Tech. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Dusty. A lot of my people went to Tech, too, though. Yeah, Tech.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But you went to Ripple. I know, but I had a mixture. Yeah. So people that were supposed to go to Tech, they came to Ripple. People that were supposed to go to Northwest, Ripple. Arlington, riffle. We had people from Forest Manor. Because back in the day, you could use your auntie's address
Starting point is 00:04:09 and go to a high school, a different high school. That's how I first went to Pike. You used somebody's address? Yeah, I was using my cousin Kawana's address. Dang, that's crazy. Man, if the NBA would have known you used the address to get to there. They going to find out you was a free and reduced lunch boy. This mother use the address.
Starting point is 00:04:30 If he hadn't have used that address, he wouldn't have made it to the league. He was one address from going to prison. A zip code away from Marion County. A zip code from Marion County. Especially the little brother. Yeah. Put that on Mook like that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Hey, for real, for real. God, that ass. Little brother was off the hook. He was wild. He was a wild boy still. That's the thing about Indianapolis, man. You know, when you're young, you're bored. It ain't nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. So most of the guys growing up young, their first case was they didn't have nothing to do. They was bored. We all did some wild stuff. I'm telling you, in Indiana,
Starting point is 00:05:18 man, this is quiet, wild-ass city. He said quiet, wild. Quiet, wild. Quiet wild. Because motherfuckers really don't know nothing about it. You got to explain. Everywhere we go, we got to explain to a motherfucker. Everywhere I go down south, somebody be like, damn, the movie Hoosiers?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Y'all niggas live on a cornfield? No wonder why y'all love traveling. Get to see some city life. I'm like, fuck y'all. We got downtown, motherfucker. We got a mall. And then when you travel, you realize that it's real people from everywhere, all over the world. I met people from Tuscaloosa, Alabama that was raw.
Starting point is 00:05:57 You know what I mean? Somebody you don't wanna see on the basketball court or whatever, they got dudes everywhere. I seen Alabama, how they get down. Oh, I got ways to talk about that. Oh, Lord. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Hey, but we back. Club 540 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. We got a special, special guest to my left. We're going to introduce my man's left to my left. Far left, Bishop Greenleaf. My boy being here.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Out the pearlies. How you what? Bishop Greenleaf. Don't know him, Mike. He's the first person to baptize R. Kelly. Damn. Chill, bro. That is wild. I'm putting respect on your resume, bro. No, you're not, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Leave R out of this. They asking the comments, are you a real bishop? And I want to give you respect. Leave R out of this, man. No, R is my fault. Nah, what up, man? I need to get bishop. We'll talk about that, Mike. Let's get this pie first, Mike. We'll talk about that, Mike. Hey, get this pod first, Mike. We'll talk about that, Mike. Hey, we started off with a lot to do in Indianapolis. He started his own ministry, Mike.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. That's where QKW came from, Mike. See, and on that note, to my right, we got my boy, Young Nacho, Young T. How you what, man? I'm good, man. Appreciate it. Happy to be here. Young Nacho.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Young Nacho. Don't ask him how he got it. Ask Keith. Yeah. Ask one of my homeboys, man. But to my left, man, I'm Geeks Honored. We got a legend, a real legend from the city of Indianapolis. We don't have too many people from the city who go out and represent who really we are in the city.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And he's done this in every single term. Philanthropist, comedian, entrepreneur, overall. Most importantly, he from Indianapolis, the guest, the God, my man, Mike F. Appreciate you. God bless you. God bless you. Oh man, anytime, man.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Anything for the Nap brothers. Hey, hey, he showing the footwear. Look, we showing our feet. These is the body dough. Is them body dough? Yeah, man, them body dough. That's the real body dough. So he be careful though here.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Body back dough. That back dough different than Indian though. That's the real body though. About a back though. That back though different than Indiana. That's wild. That was wild. That's wild. There's a deer on the back. Oh man. A deer with a tongue ring.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Oh. That's a different Milwaukee buck. They'll probably be in Atlanta. They migrate to the Midwest in the summer. That's a different species. Hey, man. Your soul is a stupid. My, my dear. Hey, man. We already started at a good spot, man.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Before we get to the episode, we always ask our guests a crazy question. So for you, man, obviously, Naptown legend in the flesh. I know you love sports, and this is a sports podcast. So I got to ask you, what hurts you more? Reggie getting that layup block by Tayshaun Prince or Andrew Luck retiring at halftime? Andrew Luck retiring at halftime. I think that's- That really hurt.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's one of the places, it's one of the things that everybody in the city remembers where they at when that happened. Where was you at when you heard that, Mike? I don't know exactly where I was, but I know how the it felt. Shit. Because at the time, man, I was bragging on the coach so much, I'm like, everywhere I went, man,
Starting point is 00:09:14 I was the only coach fan, you know what I mean? So you can only imagine how that feel. And then for your quarterback to bail out on you, after we gave up a quarterback that went and won a fucking Super Bowl. So, you know, both of them was playing on a man's mind. You know, like, damn, we could have kept the old man and just, oh man, it was bad.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Damn, he murdered, dipped out and got a chip to Andrew Luck, used that PTO on us. Yeah, dipped out on us, man. Damn. I thought you was going to say Reggie. I'm going to keep it real. Nah, man. You know what?
Starting point is 00:09:53 The Pacers, man, I love. I've been a Pacer fan since I was a kid. But I can't keep rooting for no team that don't go far. I don't give a damn who it is. I'm tired, man. You sick of it? Hell yeah yeah I'm wore out man cause I gotta go deal with that shit out in the regular world go get a star yeah go get
Starting point is 00:10:14 some stars and build the team man the Pacers know how to build a team they didn't have a great championship team I guess they let that fight up here in Detroit keep them from picking right, but. You gotta go get them wild dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You gotta be mixed to come to the Pacers. Yeah, right now you do. But y'all doing all right. I hate them too, but I just been. You gotta be mixed. You gotta be mixed. They can't go to Northwest to play for the Pacers. Y'all stars mixed.
Starting point is 00:10:44 So, and it makes sense. Tyrese Halliburton holding shit down, man. You know, you got a solid all-star. I think y'all gonna make the playoffs this year. Yeah, they gonna be good this year. They got Halliburton, they got Bathurne. Buddy Hill. Buddy Hill, they should be all right.
Starting point is 00:10:57 We gonna be solid. Yeah, but I mean. I don't think they gonna make it to the finals or nothing, but they definitely gonna make it. That's what I'm saying. And that's what I'm saying. Why do it if you're not gonna try to... You gotta go get some
Starting point is 00:11:07 veteran players. You gotta go pay some people, man. You gotta bust that check out, man. You gotta go get some shit. But Mike, they thinking since the Milwaukee Bucks did it, you know, him and them. They trying to, you know what I mean? They thinking like, shit, we a small market. Why can't
Starting point is 00:11:23 we make it straight? Man, you did get a ring, didn't you? Yeah, I snuck out of there with a ring. Yeah, shit. Hey man, that's all you can ask for. Pretty much. Right? Pretty much, I guess. But I mean.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You wasn't chasing it either. No, I wasn't, yeah. I wasn't chasing it. I'm saying Dakota. I'm saying Dakota. I mean, Dakota, Milwaukee is not chasing him. Am I lying? Am I lying?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Nah, we wouldn't chase him because I was thinking about going to the Clippers or Milwaukee, so I wouldn't really chase him. Well, I'm happy you ain't go to the Clippers. I am. I'm happy you didn't go to the Clippers. Me too, I'm glad because we won a ring. Out the gate.
Starting point is 00:12:01 But now he want to be a winner. I mean, I don't care about that shit. You two commenting, they be like, yeah, he wear winner. I mean, I don't care about that shit. You two comment, they be like, yeah, he wear the ring. Maybe I don't care about that. But I mean, we did win. So they did. Mike, I got a question here.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Two cities, we always go back and forth with it. What city you put it up in first, Milwaukee or are you going to Minnesota? I think I'm gonna go to Minnesota. Shit, I ain't. You going to Minnesota. Shit, I ain't. You going to Minnesota? Nah, I'm bad for Minnesota. They ain't fucking with me in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:12:30 They don't like me in Minnesota. Nah. Did you play there? Yeah, yeah, we had bad rapport. Woo wee. See, I don't know about the living status, but Milwaukee is dusty. You been doing your show?
Starting point is 00:12:42 That nigga need lotion on that, man. The whole city? Woo, the whole city. Did the whole city sound like Doc Rivers' voice? Man, I'm telling you. Damn. That city is rough. And the living conditions ain't, you know what I mean? A whole food is out of town.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You got to go to Chicago to go to a whole food. Mike, what's the worst city you ever performed in? Gary, Indiana. Damn, for real? At the Stardome. The G. Lord. Shout out to all my guys, man.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Tons of the region. Yeah, shout out to all my guys. You gotta paint the picture. What happened, man? What was going on? Man, it was a lot of full length leather coats. It looked like a Wild Wild West, man. It was wild.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Well, we got us with a G. What y'all got going on up there? Y'all had Mike Schuch up there. Y'all had to dress like the Matrix. Hey man, Gary is no joke. But you know what? It's a beautiful place. It got some great people in the city
Starting point is 00:13:45 but the city need to be gentrified and once they do it's gonna be the greatest city in the world man
Starting point is 00:13:52 shout out to the new mayor coming out man they got a new mayor named brother Eddie that's running for mayor I think he gonna win man and we gonna try to get up there
Starting point is 00:14:02 and Gary and try to do something nice for that city that's all it needs is some love, man. But it's a rough town now. Shout out to my guy, BJ, man, from Gary. Shout out to 29, man. But speaking of revamps in the city, man,
Starting point is 00:14:16 like we said, man, you represent the city better than like anybody has. And for you to come back to the city and bring that energy back to the city, man, we really appreciate that. We love you to tell the people, you know what I'm saying, what you got going on in that right now. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Indianapolis is growing. I remember it was two buildings downtown. Now it's three. But it's a growing town, man. And I've always did, you know, habitat work with houses and helping people in the community and stuff. Most of the stuff I do like that, I really don't tell nobody, man. You know, it's really close to the hip and it's genuine work.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But I always wanted to bring a performing arts school to Indianapolis for at-risk youth, you know, because a lot of these kids, they don't have a purpose, man. So that's why they're running around here bored, trying to figure out who they are and getting in trouble because they really don't have nothing to look forward to. So I want to bring an art school here so kids can learn that you don't have to be an actor to be rich.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You can be in a craft service. You can work the film, the camera. There's a lot of different jobs in Hollywood that you can work and learn and make a great living off of. I mean like 40, 50 jobs on a movie that people make lots of money and kids be shocked they be saying damn I say yeah man the guy who runs the sound who holds the boom
Starting point is 00:15:51 they be rich man they millionaires sound I'm just saying you know it's a lot of different opportunities so you know that's what I want to share with the kids that's fire like want to share and share with the kids yeah that's fire
Starting point is 00:16:07 like you said bring opportunities to the city that you grew up in knowing what you know giving back that's fire man i gotta ask you a question though you know i'm saying how did indianapolis prepare you for hollywood well you know what you really don't know it it that you know if you if you can make it here you can make it anywhere you don't know it, you know, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. You don't know it until you leave, you know, because it's so small, you know, your chances are really, really small. Your opportunities are slim.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And again, you have to prove yourself over and over from here, you know. I had to prove myself a million times to people because it's not a big market, you know? And when you say it, people are like, because they don't have the history on it. There's not really a cultural history here, not for black people. So when you hear about a black man from Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:17:04 I mean, half the people don't even, if you say Indianapolis, they'll say Michael Jackson because they don't, they just can't differentiate the fact that Gary from Indianapolis, they just say Indiana, they say Michael Jackson, but Michael Jackson's not from Indianapolis. So, you know, it has its pros and cons. I've learned to use it as a, you know, it has its pros and cons. I've learned to use it as a, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:26 it helps me because I'm like, damn, soon as they underestimate me, I'm gone. You know what I mean? I'm like, damn, oh Lord, this is sweet. I don't have the big city pressure on me, you know? Yeah, and that's what's dope for us. Like we growing right now, so like, for a lot of people out there,
Starting point is 00:17:44 we they first, we were Indianapolis, and we wanna represent the city the way we- Well, y'all doing it well. Yeah, y'all doing it well, man. I just seen a clip of y'all on the Instagram the other day, man, the little controversial joint he had. But I like that, man, because that's what this is about.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. It's about, yeah, it's about, you know, raising the hairs up on people's arms, man, shit. And get off your feelings. Yeah. Just's about, yeah, it's about, it's about, you know, raising the hairs up on people's arms, man. Shit. And get off your feelings. Yeah. Just having fun.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. It is, and it be like legit debates that niggas have at barbershops anyway. Yeah, you don't have to agree.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Absolutely. Absolutely. People take that as a, as a, as an argument or a display. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You don't have to agree with nobody. If you don't like something, you don't like it. Yeah, but we ain't hating on nobody. That's why I be trying to tell people to like, Yeah, just something you don't have to agree with nobody. If you don't like something, you don't like it. Yeah, but we ain't hating on nobody. That's why I be trying to tell people to like. Yeah, just something you don't like. He might like D-Wade, I might like James Harden,
Starting point is 00:18:33 but he ain't throwing no slight at James because he like D-Wade more. You know what I'm saying? People take that shit out of context. They both goats. We just, which one you prefer? We're a pair of legends. Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But Mike, back to you, man. I got to ask a question. You've done so many things in your career. What's one role or one thing that you was like, damn, I almost had it or I wish I had it? I definitely wanted to play a full Richard Pryor movie. I got a chance to play him a couple different times, but I wanted to play a full Richard Pryor movie. I got a chance to play him in a couple different times, but I wanted to play a full Richard Pryor movie. Biopic.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You know, biopic. But I played it in Winning Time about the Lakers. Yeah, fire show. Yeah, and I played it a little bit in a Nina Simone movie. So I got a chance to play him a little bit, but not a full movie. Yeah, I remember you doing an interview with somebody about how you was locked into the role and how you got into that mode. So I got a chance to play him a little bit, but not a full movie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember you doing interviews
Starting point is 00:19:26 talking about how you was locked into the role and how you got into that mode. For you, doing so many different types of cinema, and obviously you have some movies where it's just like, that's Mike Epps as a character. How's it for you to be like, all right, I need to get into this character, and how long does it take you to come back to Mike Epps?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Well, I'm always me now. I ain't gonna never just go all the way away from me. For sure, for sure but but I always pick in and add some nuances of whoever that character is because the story itself um if you tell it in an acting form it's gonna you you're gonna turn into someone else as long as you follow in the story right you know and you add in a few little thing, character pieces, but you know, I really don't never go away too far from myself. You know, I'm, I'm still me.
Starting point is 00:20:11 We had Columbus short on this motherfucker. He said, he turned into the full goddamn character and they got different kinds of actors, man. They got, they got, yeah. I think Columbus come from like that kind of actor. Yeah. When they say, if you, if he, if they say you're a bottle, he'll get on the table and turn as the bottle. No, I'm serious. For real.
Starting point is 00:20:36 They call it method. Yeah. He said he was method. Columbus would gotta say we're the acts of the league, but I understand what you're saying. For real. No, no, they call it method. I forgot the gentleman's name,
Starting point is 00:20:46 but he said he was a method actor, so he indulged in all his vices. He said that kind of led to some of the things that happened in his life. So I always wondered what actors like, you know, obviously you are you in every role and that's the dopest part about it. But I've indulged in them things anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I didn't have to be in the movie. This Saturday afternoon. Party peg Mike. I brought the party with me baby. Yeah, I already indulged. I had a question. Go ahead. Which role did you enjoy playing more?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Your role in Friday or your role in All About the Benjamins? Probably All About the Benjamins. But I was high in that movie the whole time. For real? Yeah, I was doing drugs at that time. Real tough. Man, you got some classics, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:35 That bathroom scene is one of the most iconic roast sessions of all time. You was high right there in that one? No, I wasn't high then. Oh! I couldn't afford it then. I couldn't afford the drugs at that point. Damn Q, show up.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Q, got the events. The drugs I was doing, I couldn't afford them at the time. No, all about the Benjamins was definitely my more, you know, I was in the game. I was happy to be in the business. Right. And I actually brought that script to Ice Cube. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Okay. I brought All About the Benjamins to Ice Cube, and he, executive producer, and starred in it with me. But, you know, that was one of my projects that I brought to Cube. You know, a lot of people don't know that, but. Yeah, we didn't know that. Nah, Devin didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I just felt like you was real Naptown in the month. That's my favorite. I just wanted you to answer that for yourself, but I felt like you was real Naptown front and back to that bitch. Yes, sir. Yeah, he definitely was Naptown. My favorite Friday after next, though.
Starting point is 00:22:39 That shit was my shit. Yeah, that was my shit. That was like ignorant. Yeah, it was. It was. It was. Ignorant. Hey, holy moly, don't know. Shot dog is funnier than ever. Holy moly.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Don't know. Shot dog is crazy to this day. Hold the flies. So you taking Friday? You taking Friday after next time? Yeah, that shit was fun. I came. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:22:53 That's tough. I got to go next Friday. When he was joning on Buddy, I said, damn. Lighten his ass up. That's my shit. That's what we do. So that's why I'm like, I ain't against motherfucker. Nah, that's why I picked that.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But that ain't a bad pick, though. That's why I asked you, though. So you from NAP. Did you hoop? Everybody from Indianapolis played basketball. I played basketball and, you know, I always tell this story. People be laughing. I said, man, I always made the team and played the first two games. And when the report cards came out, it was over with.
Starting point is 00:23:29 He got a couple of players like that on his team. Yeah, I'm the head coach at Pike High School now. Oh Lord, that is crazy. Yeah, I was back at coach at high school. I was working with the Hawks for the last two years and I came. Man, ain't that fun, man. Yeah, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:23:46 How is that, man? It ain't too bad, but we do got some players that's gonna be like that though. Yeah. It is. Is that a cool feeling though, man? Nah, it's a great feeling. Damn.
Starting point is 00:23:56 To be able to like, just give back really. Cause you don't do it for the money. And I bet them kids is like, wow, man, Jeff Teague is my coach. Nah, they look at me like this nigga. They just be clowning with me. So it's good though. And not instead of, cause you know,
Starting point is 00:24:12 we always grew up looking at coaches. They was like probation officers too. You know what I mean? They really wasn't. No, they were looking at the fun environment for sure. We have fun. You looking at the mamas and all that. And I'm married.
Starting point is 00:24:27 They're all looking. I'm married. Hey, yes. Yes. I'm married too. Yes. But I'm not blind. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I love this interview. This is my favorite one already. We not blind, man. Yeah, my eyes work. That's the thing our wives have to understand. We not blind. Yeah, for sure. We not going to man. Yeah, my eyes work. And that's the thing our wives have to understand. We not blind. Yeah, for sure. We not going to be disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Absolutely. But sometimes it's hard to say, okay, take it easy. And then do like this. Ain't no crime in there. Nah, there ain't no crime. Just don't get caught. No, what's crazy is you said that, so I got to ask you about this. The J. Cole joint, man, when he sampled you,
Starting point is 00:25:04 how did you feel the first time you heard that song with that? Because that shit is, like, perfect. I said, damn, man, my wife ain't heard. I'm gonna hope she don't never listen to J. Cole's album. He dropped the G. Damn, Cole. Man, I've been sampled by a lot of these dudes, and I didn't know it, man.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And shit, they sampled the wrong parts. We fucking shit up. Yeah. But wait a minute, was you flattered or were you like, damn man, what the? You know what though, man? I mean, J Cole is such a great rapper, shit. I mean like, I'm like, damn man,
Starting point is 00:25:42 the youngsters know who I am, you know what I mean? They grew up watching the movies and shit. For sure. For sure, bro. It's cool to be able to roll over into another generation. And that's fire. That's like you said, with your cinema, you got classics and now you in the music industry.
Starting point is 00:25:57 For you, you've always dabbled with that. You always did air loops, but how was it you, like, you know what I'm saying, trying to do your own music, having your own record label? How was that endeavor? Oh, no. They just play me one of them. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So, you know, laughing like, oh, boy. That was that. That was all about the business. Like, yeah, I don't know. Mike was half that shit. I was. I was. And see, that's what it do.
Starting point is 00:26:24 It make you do shit. You see, that's what it do. It make you do shit. You don't know what you're doing. You're just doing shit. And then when you come clear, you're like, what the fuck was I doing?
Starting point is 00:26:32 And everybody around like, yeah, it's cool. I said, yeah, Mike out of pocket for getting this motherfucker mix a bastard for even getting it mixed up. Hey,
Starting point is 00:26:40 when I seen that, I paid so much money to get it mixed. I told your ass something. You should have went to DJ Gus. He would have got you together. Man, let me tell you something about the music business will embarrass anybody.
Starting point is 00:26:53 No, for real. Draw two facts. That shit was, I mean, like, man, Lillard can rap. For sure. But I'm not buying the album. And you're not hearing it in the club. They arguing me about that. I'm just being honest with you.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That's just that he don't make shit or that music. No, that business is no joke. That business is you either got it or you don't. And you really don't gotta be a star to make a hit. Not a little too tight. You'm sure she has a TikTok. Too tight, you know what I mean? It's like... But I'm saying, all right, now that we're talking about music,
Starting point is 00:27:30 are you tapped in with this new generation of music, or are you still stuck? Yeah, I like some of the music. Yeah, hell yeah. So you ain't disconnected from... Hell no. I like some of the... Yeah, I like...
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, I listen... I like some of Lil Durk's music. I like a few songs on Gunna's new album. I like some of their shit. Okay. We got to talk about your music endeavor because you be going crazy on the lives with the mix. I see you.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I see you having a home. I be mixing it, man. I be mixing it, man. Shout out to my man, JF, man. Legend in the city. Love JF. Hey, the next 520 party, we gotta get you on the ox and get Jeff off.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Cause we can't get him out of 2008, man. I'm stuck in the 2000s, man. I'm still playing wipe me down. Damn. He's out of pocket. He's definitely out of pocket. You better not be playing. Still playing wipe me be playing that nigga is
Starting point is 00:28:27 you know what I'm telling you I think sometime man you don't even know you got left in the sauce you just fall in love with your shit and you look up and like damn I'm still playing Dipset. I do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Like why the fuck am I still playing? Something to make you feel old. Nah, for real. I gotta ask about that. You know what I'm saying? Obviously with you being, you know what I'm saying? Legend in comedy. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Nah, nah, nah, you a legend in comedy. But the thing about you is you've always adapted. It's still been you at the same time. With social media being such a prevalent situation to, like, promote your stuff or push your content, how do you feel about the new wave of comedians who came from social media? You know what I always say about the new wave of comedians that came through social media is that the time that they're in right now,
Starting point is 00:29:20 best time in the world. Because, you know, it's always the group before you who paves the way for you. So we were the group that paved the way for this young group. We had to do Def Comedy Jam. We had to do Comic View. We did the Apollo Man. We worked for $75 a show.
Starting point is 00:29:45 These dudes is on the internet. They ain't been on TV. They ain't been on shit. They ain't been in no movie. And they making money. They got fans. They got, I mean, for real, it was some little dude just walked in the Cheesecake Factory the other
Starting point is 00:30:01 day, and people was like, I'm like, who the fuck is that? At the Cheesecake Factory? Here? No, was like, I'm like, who the fuck is that? At the Cheesecake Factory? Here? No, I was in Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh, okay. And the girl said, he's a YouTuber. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, I was in a club with my nephew one night and he got hyped for a YouTuber, you remember? DDG. Yeah. DDG. I was like, who's that? He's a YouTuber, huh? Yeah, he went crazy. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And the kids are, the way they receiving entertainment now, they don't receive it like we used to. We had to see somebody on TV to be like, damn. Now they like, I seen him on TikTok. I'm like, damn, I ain't seen him. You know, I ain't seen him on TikTok. Like, I don't, I'm on that, you know? It's so many of them, though. It's hard to keep up. Right. No, but I seen you on things like, I don't, I'm only, you know. It's so many of them though, it's hard to keep up.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Right. But I seen you on tour with DC Young Fly, like when he was on your tour. So I could see you embracing the younger comedians. Man, the young DC Young Fly, Carlos, all the 85 South. Shout out to 85 South. Man, them dudes is, them dudes is, out of all the groups of the young comics,
Starting point is 00:31:06 them are the closest ones to what I was when I was doing it at they age. They young, they raw, and they gonna be great too. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. All of them got little old souls.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And if you get close to them, all of them, you'll smell a little gin on all of them. They drinking the gin? all of them, you'll smell a little gin on all of them. They drinking the gin? All of them's little old niggas, man. They all smell like a little bourbon or something, man. They got a little bumpy face. Yeah, a little Cadillac smell. Oh, bourbon.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Oh, Cadillac? Oh, DeVille? Especially Carla. You got that new leather. Shout out to 85 South. We pushing this up. That's crazy. Yeah, man. I got to new list. Shout out to 85 South. We pushing this up. That's crazy. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I got to ask you, I'm going to just go ahead and throw a couple movie names out at you, and you just tell me your first thought about them. How was it when you got the call to be a hangover? Man, I was like, now I'm getting a white check. Because, you know, as a black person, as a black guy, you know, we always talking about the white man, the white man. But soon as he called. Hello?
Starting point is 00:32:14 They called Tyrone. Hey, all the white people just called. For sure. I feel different. I got my money and I was gone. Black people don't understand the dynamic of that. They don't understand that in this society
Starting point is 00:32:36 right here, I don't care who you like and who you don't. You got to play a game, man. Life is a game itself. You got to a game, man. You gotta, you know, life is a game itself. You gotta play it with your own people, so. Yeah. Hell, you might as well go on and play it, period.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And that's what we learned in this industry. And now, like, you know what I'm saying? We crossing barriers with things a little bit different. We like, ah, we still gotta play ball. You still gotta play ball. Even though Jeff ain't playing in the NBA, now this is a whole nother game you guys are playing but it's still rules and regulations to this absolutely and and the only way to make it
Starting point is 00:33:11 to that other you gotta you know you gotta play ball hell yeah y'all do y'all remember uh uh uh them two djs in new york that was off the hook. Man, what was the dude? Who you talking about? Starring Buck Wilde. Oh, yeah. Do y'all remember them? Yeah, I do. No, sorry. Now, them dudes right there, I got to give them a shout out
Starting point is 00:33:35 because they was the first, when I tell you, crazy motherfuckers doing like podcast, like seeing some crazy. Like, they talk about Charleston white and all them. Nah, them dudes right there was off the chain. They just came out too early. Yeah. They came out too early.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Cause if they would've came out around like right now. Where's Charlemagne? They be Charlemagne. What? They be Charlemagne. Bro they be huge. They was Charlemagne. They was the first, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:34:01 No dead ass. Star and Charlemagne. He was wasn't it? It was worse. No, it was the Kangol. Was he worse than Charlamagne. He was, wasn't he? He was worse. No, fam. Was he worse than Charlamagne? Nah, he was worse. I know early Charlamagne was crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But Star was talking. He was on the radio. Yeah. That's like if Rec 1 used to get on 96.3 and start talking greasy. That's one of them. That's what I'm saying. They came out before they time. Because they really like if you know, you know type shit.
Starting point is 00:34:24 For real. Nah, them dudes was, they was, like you said They came out before they time. Because they really like if you know, you know type shit. For real. Nah, them dudes was, they was, like you said, they was before they time. Speaking of New York, Fat Joe said lay off the crack. Man, why you say that to me? Shout out to Fat Joe, man. I DM'd him. He said he's going to fuck with the show. So, wax.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Pull up, Joe. He fucks with you. Come on, Joe, and lean back, baby. Lean back. Lean back. As big as Fat Joe is. Lean back, baby. Lean back. Lean back. As big as Fat Joe is, that nigga be having them leathers that a skinny nigga be wearing.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'm telling you. All the flavors of Pelly. Oh, come on. He's the flyest big nigga out, man. Ain't nobody flyer than that nigga, man. That nigga got peach Pellys with peach. I said, how'd he find some peach shoes to match that motherfucker jacket, man? I got to ask you. I know, how'd he find some peach shoes to match that motherfucking jacket, man?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I gotta ask you, I know you spent a little time in New York as a nat Midwest kid in New York. How was that adjustment? It was an adjustment. You know what I'm saying? You know, being from Indiana, man, we really pick up a little
Starting point is 00:35:22 bit from everybody. You know what I mean? Shit. In New York, I was a New Yorker. In L.A., I was a L.A. But I always been a nap guy. You know what I mean? But, you know, that was the way that I survived
Starting point is 00:35:40 and blended in, man, and handled my business and did what I had to do. You know? I teach my kids that. You know, you go to Rome, you become a Roman. You know, but you know where you're from and know what you do, you know? And most of the time,
Starting point is 00:35:57 it was a character builder for me because once I got to them places like New York and LA, I realized where I was from. I was like, damn, I didn't appreciate it until I got to them places. And then I was like, I'm sitting here trying to fit in with them and my shit is potent. I got the better shit than anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:29 That's how I feel in Atlanta. Right? Yeah, you try to fit in in Atlanta, I'm like, I'm from that. Yeah. I wanna be like me. That's right. I wanna be like them.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's right, and whatever that is, even if I'm standing by myself, guess what? I'm still standing on what's mine. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's real. I know that L.A. life was different, boy. L.A. life is different, man.
Starting point is 00:36:51 L.A. is the cream of the crop, man. And all of it will suck you up and suck you in. That's crazy. No, that is crazy. We were trying to have my talk. we been trying to have my talk you know they say chew you up and spit you out nah that's crazy
Starting point is 00:37:13 I didn't know y'all had a freak alert on here his name Mike too we gotta be careful Mike on this show when we talk about LA and Miami you gotta be careful with those type of words allegations cause we know how shit get.A. and Miami, you gotta be careful with those type of words. Allegations. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Because we know how shit get out of L.A. and Miami. Shit get spooky. Well, you know. Different type of letters in Atlanta. If you ain't did nothing, ain't nothing to be worried about. Absolutely. If you do something, you got something to worry about. Then you all, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:37:47 The eyebrows start raising. Oh, yeah. What's your favorite place to party in, though, when you was partying? I know you probably chill now, but you got any memorable cities that you, like, partied in that you had a good-ass time in? Man, I ain't going to lie. I think Miami might have been the funnest place to party for me back in the day. I used to go to Rolex.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I used to go to all the strip clubs. But the strip clubs in Miami were clubs. Yeah. You know what I mean? The girls was just extra walking around in the club naked. They still clubs. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? The girls was just extra walking around in the club naked. They still clubs. That made me think
Starting point is 00:38:29 of something, Mike. When you got your first real payday, you look at that account, it's up. What'd you burn your first bread on? Quarter kilo.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's on the real. 10 pounds. A 9.8 nah man you know what I bought my mother a wash and dryer man my mother needed a wash and dryer I bought my mother a wash and dryer damn yeah that's real
Starting point is 00:38:58 cause I'm from dirt man I came from nothing so you know I ain't gonna be sitting here sugarcoating nothing about what I did with my money. I bought my mama a wash and dry. Paid a couple of my bills off. You know what I mean? Got a couple of my teeth fixed.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Toothpaste got them fixed. Yeah, yeah. But you was ahead of time. You didn't get the big veneers like the rappers get now. No, I got a couple of them, but they ain't like the, no. I had a couple left. These dudes didn't have none. They just put the whole thing in there.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Motherfucker put the whole Chuck E. Cheese right up there. For sure. I see you all sitting there smiling. I said, man, what's going on up there? It's so road to. Scrappy shit crazy. You know what I mean? So I did the right thing with the money.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I tell you that. That's cool, man. I couldn't imagine, like you said, grinding the way you did. And then for you doing comedy, that's a different attention from movies. Which one did you prefer to do? I would say probably your favorite movie or your Netflix special for comedy when you came to the crib. You know what, man?
Starting point is 00:40:08 They both serve each other. If I'm doing standup comedy, it'll make me good in the movie. If I'm doing movies, it'll make people come out to see me do standup. So they both service each other, man. So I really, really need both of them. And one is not stronger than the other.
Starting point is 00:40:30 That's dope. I would say. I guess when you get into that mode of, you know what I'm saying? All right. I'm about to happen to my comedy band. I'm about to get on stage. I'm about to go warm up. What's your inspiration?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like you hit a couple of cities and get, you know what I'm saying? Just test your ideas. Or you just like, all right, I'm locked down for a month. I ain't talking to nobody. Y'all see me when I get to it. No, man what I'm saying? Just test your ideas or you just like, all right, I'm locked down for a month. I ain't talking nobody. Y'all see me when I get to it. No, man, I'm a natural comic. So I really don't have to prepare like most comics do. It's because I, man, I perform 52 weekends out the year.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm always out on the road. I'm always doing six, seven shows in the city. Damn. You know, yeah, I do two shows on Friday, out on the road. I'm always doing six, seven shows in the city. You know, yeah, I do two shows on Friday, two shows Saturday, two shows Sunday. By the time it's time for me to shoot a movie or shoot a special, shit, I'm on fire
Starting point is 00:41:15 because I never stop working. You know, I'm always working on it. And that's another thing, like, with the young comics that's on TikTok and stuff like that, they don't work hard. So they really burn out quick. You see them, and then they just disappear.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Or they can't act. When it's time to put them in a movie, they're really not that good because they really haven't worked on it long enough. Would you say that's the big difference between how you did... Hell yeah. You did an iconic movie, you know what I'm saying? Your favorite character appears. Powder, nigga. Baby Powder.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Come on, Powder. How was it? Don't nobody say that now. Don't nobody say that now. That a now nothing. The difference between doing the first movie and then doing the sequel where you got some of the newer guys, I'm sure say that now or not. That a now or not it. The difference between doing the first movie and then doing the sequel where you got some of the newer guys, I'm sure the acting level was a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Like you said, because of that, it's a success from my living room, instead of having to go through the trial and error with the fire. It is, because you sitting there, sitting there across from somebody who's, you know, really new at it. You know how that feel, man.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, when you a rookie and it's like being a rookie in the NBA. You've been in both of them, though, right? Yeah, going to get somebody who's been in the league for 15 years and going to get somebody their first year. Complete difference. Yeah. It is, man. Right, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I wanted to ask you, nigga, I always see Ice Cube as being serious. Is he really always that serious, like, even on set? No, he was cool, man. Okay. Ice Cube, he's a serious businessman. Oh, for sure. So I think that's the side of him that
Starting point is 00:42:55 people perceive as being, you know, serious. Yeah, and I had a two-parter, too. Always business. But, you know, he's got his fun side. We seen Jaggy Promoters? Nah, for sure. Nah, but I'm saying that had a two-parter too. Always business. You know, he's got his fun side to him. We seen Janky Promoters. Nah, for sure. Nah, but I'm saying that's a crazy-ass movie too.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Russell Ray. That's on the walk-up tab. Yeah, y'all was some raggedy. That was a nap shit. That was. My friend live in Modesto. He's a sick nigga because there was some raggedy-ass niggas in that movie. He's live in Modesto.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Keith, we gotta have a conversation. Hey, y'all was some raggedy niggas in that movie. Oh, Keith's living in Modesto. Keith, we gotta have a conversation. Hey, y'all was some raggedy niggas in that movie. How did y'all link? How did you and Cube like first link up? Man, you know what? Me and Cube was, I was performing on Sunset at the Comedy Store and one of my little partners, Baby Looney, rest in peace, he was telling people
Starting point is 00:43:44 he was managing me. And I got off stage and he said, man, Cube wanna holler at you. I'm like, what? I thought he was lying. I seen Cube, I'm like, damn. I like, you know, you really don't say, you know, you say you're not starstruck,
Starting point is 00:43:59 but boy, when you see somebody like Ice Cube when you're young, that shit do something to you. I was like, damn. So he put me through the audition process and I got the role. But it wasn't easy. I auditioned for it for like a month. And he went out of town and went on a vacation
Starting point is 00:44:19 and came back and I got the role. That's good. Yeah. Okay. That's crazy. You was probably in there sweating bullets. That was for Day Day, right? Day Day. Day Day. Iconic. That was 30 years ago. That's a good, yeah, okay. That's crazy, you was probably in there sweating bullets. That was for Day Day, right? Day Day, Day Day.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Iconic. That was 30 years ago. That's crazy. And people probably still call you that when you out. Yeah, Uncle Elroy was my nigga. Uncle Elroy, rest in peace. That was my nigga. I was talking about Uncle Elroy.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I was talking about John Witherspoon. I was talking about John Witherspoon. I was talking about Uncle Elroy on the interview the other day.. You talking about John Witherspoon. I said, okay, I wrote an interview the other day. Get your hand out of my sugar bowl. You feel me knocking? Let me in. Let me in. Him telling Craig to run back to use condom is crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:00 That's one of the nastiest things I've ever seen. Spilling the bottle on the Durex is insane That's the first DVD I ever had I swear to God Next Friday, first DVD I ever had When I first said it, I didn't even know you was from there When I found out, I'm like, we spitting that shit back Over and over and over, bro
Starting point is 00:45:18 N.A.P. Out the show, man Yeah, I left Indianapolis When I was 20 years old, though. 2021. Flew to New York. And I lived in New York for 12 years. And then I've been living in LA.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Okay. The first place I went was Chicago. Ooh. Damn. Up the block. That was the first place I went. And I went and stayed up in Chicago And went to
Starting point is 00:45:48 All the comedy clubs With my man Kenny Howe Stayed there for I realized I don't need to be here Because this ain't where the business is Then I moved to Atlanta Stayed for a year And left Atlanta and moved to New York,
Starting point is 00:46:05 stayed in New York for 12 years. But I didn't know them cities, you couldn't be a star there. I thought you could go to Chicago and become a star, but the business is not in those cities. Right. The business is you. The business wasn't even in New York.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Damn. Not for what I did. Ultimately, it was in there. For real? Not really. I mean, if you go to New York and you. Not for what I did. Ultimately, we did that. For real? Not really. I mean, if you go to New York and you a comic, if you not on Saturday Night Live, you ain't on TV. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Cause they don't have a lot of shows in New York. That makes sense. But it's a great bootcamp for a comedian cause it's raw up there. Yeah. That's why I thought you could go get your practice and shit. They hate everything in New York. They shrewd.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I gotta ask, man. You say you performed at the Apollo, like, your first time on stage. How was it like, hey, the same man is not getting me? I didn't perform that kind of way. Like, the Apollo used to have Guest comedians And then they had
Starting point is 00:47:08 The showcase I was a guest comedian You wasn't on the audition I couldn't imagine that, that's a different type of pressure They were still raw They was booing gospel artists, that's how I knew it was different You booing Jesus, y'all niggas different If you ain't got it, you ain't got it
Starting point is 00:47:23 You're a bishop, You gotta respect the choir. I know, but you ain't got it. Especially your church. There's a lot of people at Friendship that can't sing, nigga. And they made me leave a couple times that week as choir. So I get it. If you ain't got it, you ain't got it. And the Lord know it, too. That nigga
Starting point is 00:47:39 tapped me on the shoulder. He's telling them people all the time find something else to do. You can't be an usher. Not at Fresh. Y'all ain't gonna do my mama nothing like that. Them niggas stretch them careers
Starting point is 00:47:53 longer than what they should be. They got 360 deals at Fresh. It is somebody 86 singing in the choir. Free baby girl. Free baby girl. She shouldn't be up there working.
Starting point is 00:48:05 They need to start a friendship into an Airbnb. She shouldn't be up there working. Oh, man. They need to start a friendship into an Airbnb, man. It's over with. I'll take you out of pocket. Hey, stop the disrespect, bro. Pass the cover today. That's all, man. That's all for the one time.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Hey, we got to talk about it, man. August 5th, 2023. A moment that will live in black history. The Montgomery white chair whooped down. Mike, please tell me how you felt when you saw that first footage of that man going apeshit with that chair. You know what's crazy about that man is
Starting point is 00:48:31 thank God for cameras and phones and shit nowadays. Absolutely. Just think of all the ass whoopings that people done gotten. You never could catch it on camera. And it was unfair. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it just go to show you, man, that, hey, man,
Starting point is 00:48:52 it can go wrong sometimes. It can go bad for that side. You know what I mean? And it was just glad to see some black people sticking together, man. For sure. More than anything. Fuck that they was to see some black people sticking together, man. For sure. More than anything. Fuck that they was jumping on some white people or whatever they was doing. Whatever they was doing, as much as we've been through as a race.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Because didn't nobody die? Yeah. They got their ass kicked, got hit with a chair. Okay, so what? For the race, it was good to see black people sticking. Standing for each other.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah, man. That was beautiful. When I seen the skip down the boardwalk. Them people didn't even know each other. Nah. They didn't know
Starting point is 00:49:34 that security guy. You know what I mean? And it just automatically clicked. Man, let's look out for him, man. Let's help him out. Shout out to my nigga that swam across that motherfucker to help, too.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Man, come on. Definitely, Les. All I kept saying to myself is he ain't going to have no wind when he get a dive. He ain't that fresh from the swimmers. I ain't no nigga from Santa Cruz. I said, I don't know what he's running over there for because he ain't going to be able to breathe when he get out of there.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I mean, he was hitting hard. He was doing that motherfucking hard as hell. He went to the YMCA growing up. Ah, shit. Hey, man. It was crazy. It was crazy. But like I said, man, it was good to see black men sticking together.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah, man. That's crazy. We went from seeing that to seeing Tim Anderson getting pieced up. Are you still over that, man? Man, it was a blind punch, man. Hey, a win is a win, man. I'm happy to close your eyes and swing. Once you throw your hands up, bro, it's game time. Nah, facts. He took it.
Starting point is 00:50:33 See how crazy it is, bro. See how crazy it is, bro. Tim Anderson was script walking back to the dugout. They carried my boy like he had just hit the layout. I'm like, damn, Tim's dead now. Don't do Tim like that. Shout out to my boy, Tim. That's my man's. That's had just hit the loud. I'm like, damn, Tim's dead now. Don't do Tim like that. Shout out to my boy, Tim. That's your man, Tim?
Starting point is 00:50:46 That's my man's dog. That's why you put the cow. Yeah, it was a blind punch, man. Now we growing by, you know what I'm saying, the relationships, you know what I'm saying? We started to see who we really like. That's why you had that thing. Yeah, man. I ain't no Tim.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Shout out to my dog, man. Back on some Naptown shit, though, bro. You got any dope thing Willie stories for? Come on, man. That was my man, Willie Hawkins. Yes, sir. Naptown shit though bro you got any Dauphine Willie stories for come on man that was my man Willie Hawkins Willie Hawkins man we had so many man we had some great nights great fun
Starting point is 00:51:13 yeah man Dauphine Willie man he was in the Master P movies if y'all don't know who that is a lot of youngsters don't know yeah yeah about it yeah he was a dude that could have made it man But he just never left Indianapolis So you know
Starting point is 00:51:30 One thing about Being from Indianapolis If you don't leave You might not never see The greatness of who you are You know what I mean You might not really see You know what you can really do.
Starting point is 00:51:46 For sure. You got to leave here, man, and pair yourself up. Yeah. So I used to always tell this motherfucker, man, what are you trying to come back?
Starting point is 00:51:53 You see this stupid ass jersey? Look at that dumb ass number. He finally did it. Fucking fullback. You know why I wore that number, man? You know why I wore it? Now I wore 44 so I could do this to the crowd.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Cause I'm from out west. You got it before. What was your original number, man? That was my number 44, but I wore a zero most of my career. Yeah. I wore a zero because of Gilbert Arenas, but that was my favorite player. Yeah, zero is better than 44 for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Hey man, that's definitely a big man's number. That's what I'm saying. That's the last Jersey motherfucker get. I wore it in high school. My brother wore 44 when he was in high school. Wow. So I wanted to be like him. And then when I came back home. Oh, Terrell?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. Yeah, Terrell was definitely a four. 42 is a good number. 45, 47. him and then when I came back home Oh, Terrell? Yeah. Terrell was definitely a four. 42. That's a good number. 45, 47. 43. I seen 43, 41. Them niggas weren't respected for real. I ain't never seen
Starting point is 00:52:55 nothing past 45. All they had was 45. Couple niggas had 50. Chuck Patterson was who? Z-Bone? Z-Bone had 50. A real one, yep. But he was real big though. Corey Maggette. Corey Maggette.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Corey Maggette. He had muscles. All these niggas who could wear above 45 had to have. He was cold. He was. Corey Maggette wore 50. Damn, Z-Bone did have it. What was Greg number?
Starting point is 00:53:18 I mean, he was 50. Hey man, I wanna ask y'all some sports questions. Oh, let's get it. We love this part. They're not really sports questions, but have you ever seen in your whole, I mean, your existence of knowing basketball and not nobody that went pro,
Starting point is 00:53:37 but have you ever seen somebody that was like 5'10", but they could play center? Mike. That's him. He played center at Broward. You were beating the first stretch four. Stretch Hitty. Stretch Himalaya.
Starting point is 00:53:56 He was 5'10". Nah, real shit. He's 5'10". He played with George Hill. You bet your first digger, bro. For sure. That is wild. Congratulations, bro. For sure. That is wild. Congratulations, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:07 For real? It has. I played big, for sure. I played one, too, because my hand was pitty-patty crazy. Yicky crazy. But I played big because we was undersized. So I was the biggest nigga on the team.
Starting point is 00:54:23 That is hilarious. It was George Hill Center, bro. Double-double-handle. Like you said, that two-game rule, so I was the you know biggest nigga on the team that is hilarious you know bro double double Henny he was George Hill Center bro double double Henny like you said that two game rule that was happening
Starting point is 00:54:30 that too so he had a slide down to the five double double Henny you know what I mean for sure I love that man they gave me
Starting point is 00:54:35 that weak ass jersey too but my coach was special ed though I what number you wore he was dyslexic they gave me 40 that was your number
Starting point is 00:54:47 yeah then I switched to 5 though cause I really hoop like KG I swear it was then we moved to 21 fuck cow guy shout out to cow though but I was the first I'm shitting he really said it I'm thinking this nigga about to say something serious
Starting point is 00:55:04 you ever seen a nigga that was 5'10 to play center nigga you done been to a dust bowl game before I'm shitting he really said that I'm thinking this nigga about to say something serious That was serious Nigga you done seen a nigga that was 5'10 to play center Nigga you done been to a Dust Bowl game before That's where I seen it at I seen Hey man that shit always Blew my mind To see a dude 5'10
Starting point is 00:55:19 Playing center That's above the real For sure bro The same three highlights that they put in above the real. That's one of the greatest basketball movies of all time. But Tommy Shepard hit that mid-range jump shot 18 times in a row. Yeah, that movie is cat. I hate that movie.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Above the real. Yeah, because they should have just showed more highlights. I like Tupac, but other than that, it was kind of weak. That's just me. Yeah, they was kind of. Like, what's your favorite sports movie? That was a fake record game. Yeah, like it was,
Starting point is 00:55:48 they should have showed a little something different. Oh, what's my favorite movie? Yeah. Sports. No, any, period. Sports movie. Yeah, you go, whatever. Oh, any movie.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm not gonna lie, not my favorite movie, but one of them is Dead Presidents. I like Dead Presidents. I really enjoyed that movie. The only reason why I said it is because I'd just seen it again out of nowhere, and I was like, damn, that was a good-ass movie. What about Harlem Nights? I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I wish y'all could remake that motherfucker, bro. We're trying to do something like that right now with Kevin Hart. Me, Kevin Hart, and all the rest of the dudes oh that's gonna be fire that's fire hell yeah we trying to do something like that damn
Starting point is 00:56:31 we trying to do something like that Harlem Nice would be crazy nah especially now who y'all gonna get to play old girl though the big girl
Starting point is 00:56:38 Monique out the gate or uh why'd you laugh right now nah cause what's old girl what's Uncle Erroy wife in Friday
Starting point is 00:56:47 his girl might be getting Big Lizzo oh for sure the biggest or Belly you gotta get Mark Henry for that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:56:54 for sure Big Lizzo she already slapping motherfuckers right now shit turn y'all shit up don't let her get
Starting point is 00:57:03 the Amazon Fresh the bananas you'll get real spooky y'all sick hell yeah Now let her get the Amazon Fresh. The bananas come. It's going to get real spooky. Hell yeah. Put Hurricane in that motherfucker for sure. Hey, that was some of the wildest y'all ever seen. Man, what is wrong with y'all, man? They were so ready to turn on her.
Starting point is 00:57:15 When they got the reports in, we're just like, yeah, we've been ready to talk about this. Nah, that movie going to go crazy. I remake that. For sure. Because all the characters are there. All we got to do is just replace them damn that's funny little bitch i got a question for you mike how you feel about tubi tubi yeah i'm not even familiar with it for real is that a network oh you gotta tap in you gotta
Starting point is 00:57:40 no you don't you gotta tap in you you above and Oh, no, you don't need to be on it, but you need to see some of that shit that's on there. Is that an app like Instagram? No, it's on your TV, though. They got some wild ass movies on there. It's like Hulu, bro. Netflix type shit. But the hood version. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:57 For sure. Have to move to film in Detroit. It's like the hood version of Netflix. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait. Like Paper Soldiers and shit would have been on there. Yeah, see, the thing about that is, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:08 I don't want to look at some shit that's not of quality because, believe it or not, you can ruin your lens with that shit. You don't go on two. I'm serious. You can ruin your own lens.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You can ruin yourself looking at low quality shit. So when it's time for me to go do it, you find yourself, you're like, where the fuck did I pick that bullshit up at? I'm just being honest. Don't go on Tubi.
Starting point is 00:58:37 That's a fact though. If you go watch basketball like that, you start watching poor basketball, you'll fuck around and start doing That's real, right? That's real, that. You start watching poor basketball, you'll fuck around and start doing shit. That's real, right? Yeah. That's real, man. You got to be careful what you consume because this shit is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Is that your next movie that you're working on, though, with Kevin Hart in it? Or you got something else in there? No, I got a movie coming out with Snoop Dogg called Underdogs. It's about his football league. Oh, okay. And I'm playing one of the coaches. That's love though. Yeah, it's still, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I'm still, I'm still appreciative of it. And I did another movie with Sanaa Lathan coming out called Young, Wild and Free. Pretty good movie. So they got a Hollywood strike right now. Y'all hear what I'm saying? Now I was gonna ask you about that. The writers and the actors as well.
Starting point is 00:59:24 With us having such a prominent space in YouTube, do you think a lot of like comedians or entertainers are gonna probably transition to other things while this is going on? Cause like, obviously with you being- Well, we the only one working y'all, me, people who have these type of jobs are the only ones working right now.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We fortunate enough to be able to do it because everybody else is under the union. And man, we don't know what this thing gonna do, man. Only one's working right now. We're fortunate enough to be able to do it because, you know, everybody else is under the union. And, man, we don't know what this thing is going to do, man. You know, they're fighting for residuals. They're fighting for wages, money, because the streamers, they don't want to give up anything. They figured out a way where they don't have to pay people and um
Starting point is 01:00:05 and now they figure out trying to figure out a way to replace your ass yeah they got this ai situation in the movie business and you know once they start uh implicating that in our businesses, it's over with anyway. You know? Now people's jobs are going to have to be associated with working with that. If you're not working with that, you don't have a job.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Man. Nah, it's crazy, because even with musicians, you'll hear a song and you'll be like, he didn't make that song. They made this on the keyboard, but it sound like it. But see, what they don't realize what that is, is that nobody with real substance is going to want to listen to some fake shit. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:59 If my mind is clicking to me telling me that that ain't the real, I'm not listening to that shit. Hell no. You can't imitate soul I don't want to hear it man you know so that's where they at in Hollywood with it man and we just got to figure out different ways to
Starting point is 01:01:17 bring some income in man it's a million ways to make money out here you got to buckle down and figure it out alright well I got a question I'm a hoop it's a million ways to make money out here. You got to buckle down and figure it out. Agreed. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Well, I got a question. I'm a hoop. I hooped all my life. Yeah. You've been watching basketball for years. Who are your top five favorite players? My top five favorite players? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Don't say no bullshit, Mark. Reggie, make the cut. Reggie Miller? Mm-hmm. Hell no. I would say Reggie might be one of my favorite fives because I'm from Indiana he always represented us and I always
Starting point is 01:01:54 you know rooted for Reggie he's definitely one of my fives I gotta have somebody from Indiana in my five respect Michael Jordan definitely out the gate Julius Irvin I gotta have somebody from Indiana in my five. Respect. Michael Jordan, definitely. Out the gate.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Julius Irvin. I used to love Julius Irvin. I used to love Dominic Wilkins. Man. That's my guy. I used to love Dominic, man. That's my guy. And you know what? One thing about Dominic, he was really unorthodox.
Starting point is 01:02:23 He was really like, really wasn't like. Nigga bow legged. He wasn't like nobody. He wasn't and he, I mean. I don't detail. I mean, he really damn near, he played different from any player I ever seen ever play. His jump shot was different.
Starting point is 01:02:42 He had an ugly jump shot. It just went in. Yeah, it was like air. Yeah. That motherfucker was ugly. He walked like Kenny Smith. Now? He was cold. He was cold.
Starting point is 01:02:54 He was cold. He was bad. He definitely was one of my favorite. Damn. I might got old niggas on his shit. He might like you like, how about Kobe? I'm a old niggas on his shit. He might like you like I'm an old nigga. Oh, definitely Kobe, man.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Kobe is Kobe, man. Kobe. That ain't bad. So Reggie Miller is the greatest facer ever to you? Yeah. Yeah. That's out of pocket. You know any other great facers?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Shit. Jarvis Best ain't walking through that door being here Fuck that Give me Jamal where you at Nah I'ma keep it a bean I'ma keep it a bean bro Chuck Person Nah shout out to Chuck
Starting point is 01:03:36 Chuck a filthy nigga but shout out to Chuck Hey Chuck 3 respect Nah give me Paul George over here I'm not Nah Nah Paul George I'm sorry Paul George didn't do anything In Indiana He killed in Indiana
Starting point is 01:03:51 Don't do that Reggie killed for 20 years Every year Paul George got Up to LeBron I mean that's everybody You can't be playing ball with him In the summertime I'm not gonna be your friend nigga
Starting point is 01:04:08 And I'm trying to beat this winner The NBA is friendly The NBA is friendly But y'all played football back then That shit wasn't really basketball for real I get it Don't be friends but y'all was out of pocket Yeah Julius Irving
Starting point is 01:04:26 and them. Yeah, come on, bro. Bill Lambert and Rick Mahorn started on the team. They had to smoke a cigarette at halftime. On the championship team. Niggas roll breaking up 40s, like smoking cigarettes at halftime. I'll be able to bring that back to the league. That'd be hard. If I see a nigga rolling up at halftime, that's a hard time. Hell no. If I see LeBron
Starting point is 01:04:41 rolling to join at halftime and go get 40, that's elite. No, it's not, bro. You out of pocket. Yeah, you out of pocket. Yeah, that's some slam box shit. We're LeBron see LeBron rolling to join at halftime and go get 40, that's elite. No, it's not, bro. You out of pocket. Yeah, you out of pocket. Yeah, that's some slam box shit. Where LeBron? LeBron not top five for you? LeBron?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. Oh. Nah. You more of a Julius. I mean, a Magic Johnson type of thing. I told you I like the old guys, man. It's not that he's not top five. I'm just, you know, this is more competitive.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Named all the old dudes. He definitely did. You know what I'm saying? They feel like people his age feel like motherfuckers is more competitive. No, I like the young guys too, but I'm just telling you that I just grew up in an era watching basketball different than what it is now.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I respect it. You know what I mean? Basketball now is different than what it was when I grew up watching basketball. Man, it was like everybody was a star then. Back when you played? No, back when basketball was playing, when they was back
Starting point is 01:05:41 in the day. Man, I mean, they had some dudes. They had a dude named Xavier McDaniel. Ex-man. Ex-man. Man, these was dudes that was, I mean, boy.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Only old nigga I really showed some real respect was Benora King. He was a walking bucket. He was cold. Man, they had a lot of them. Walking bucket. Man, they had a lot of them. Walking bucket. Man, they had dudes. Ron Harper. Cold.
Starting point is 01:06:09 In Cleveland. He was one of the first big PGs that really did their thing. Before he got hurt, he was cold. Yeah. 6'6", PG for sure. He helped Jordan with them other titles. Before he was with Jordan, he was real cold. That's going crazy in Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:06:22 What college did you go to, Jack? I went to Wake Forest. You went to Wake Forest. Yep. Tim Duncan. Yep. Timmy D called, too. So you and him might be the only guys that came out of there.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Chris Paul. Chris Paul did. Chris Paul came out of there, too? Muggsy Bogues. Yeah. Damn, I forgot. Rodney Rogers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Shout out to my, I always put it, respect, Al Farouk Aminu came out of there. Al Farouk. Shout out to Chief. James Ishmael. Oh, they had a great program then. The lineage is there. Yeah, it's there. You supposed to go to Purdue though.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I'm glad you didn't. Man, I'm glad you didn't go to Purdue. I wasn't supposed to go there, man. You wasn't supposed to go there. Nah, man. Me and Purdue got beef, man. He called them and said, I'm coming. They said, they get worried. They said they had no scholarship for me. Fuck you pulling up to me.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Man, I just did a show in North Carolina, man. I went on stage with a Duke jersey on. Ah, they'd kill you over there. They booed the shit out of me. Yeah. They'd kill you over there. Don't nobody like Dukie. Ah, nigga, who's jersey you have on?
Starting point is 01:07:20 They ain't tell you that. I don't know. I just had a Duke jersey on. They said, Mike, yes. I came out and said, ah. They was like, yeah, boy. I just had a Duke jersey on. You had a black Duke? Yes. I came out and said, ah. They was like, yeah, bro. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:07:30 You got to wear a Tar Heel jersey, bro. You out of pocket. Yeah, you got to wear a Duke. Hey, when I see you with 50 a couple weeks ago, and I see the jersey, I said, Mike, be at the crib. Why you got the Miss Jersey? What jersey you have on? Nets.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Hey, man. I rock. I rep the Pacers. You do, though. No, no. You do. And Colts. And more importantly coming up, we got a great season with the Colts.
Starting point is 01:07:56 We got a young black quarterback. First time the Colts really going to let him rock out. And more importantly, we got the all-star game in the city. I know damn well they better be handing you the keys to handle all that. Because I saw what they did with Comedy Chicago. Me and Jeff are going to do a party. Yeah. Comedy show slash
Starting point is 01:08:13 party. Hell yeah. I just got hype. I'm glad you said that on tape. We're going to have a cigar lounge while the party is happening. It's going to be, we're going to have it right. Oh yeah. Ladies, the nice ladies, we're going to have a cigar lounge while the party is happening. We're going to have it right. Oh, yeah. Ladies, the nice ladies.
Starting point is 01:08:29 We're going to have the VIPs set up. The nice ladies. It's going to be nice. It's going to be cigars. It's going to be on one side. You're going to have the mad DJ on the one side with the music playing. It's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. Mike Epps, Jeff T. Hey, you heard it first. Jeff T, Mike Epps. Fuck with it. No Jakey promoters. No Jakey promoters. I can see us now
Starting point is 01:08:55 running around with the suit on. He definitely one of them niggas. That's cute. Where's Mondo? Yeah. With the nigga with the Chrysler 300 with the rims. Y'all niggas is crazy. Oh man, man. Before we got out of here, Mike, please, man.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Please tell us, man. The people wanna know what you got going on. What's your goal to close out this year with? Hey man, this year, my goal is make sure Hollywood come back because they on strike right now. So I don't know what this year is going to be, but I got a tour coming up hosting. I'm going to be hosting with DC Youngfly, Carlos Miller, Chico Bean,
Starting point is 01:09:43 D-Ray Davis and Little Duval it's coming up this year our first day to be in January I'm going to be hosting, that's going to be one of the biggest comedy tours ever that's starting the first of the year and like I said I got the movies coming out
Starting point is 01:10:00 man and you know I'm just hey, trying to stay in the game, man. Put out good work. Keep proceeding. We want to say thank you. First and foremost, not even for coming here. Thank you for representing our city
Starting point is 01:10:15 the way we want to be represented, bro. We don't have a lot of people out there. We got people from the city, but they don't always come back. They may not show how we really was. We appreciate you being that beacon of light for the city out in Hollywood to show always come back. They may not show how we really was. We appreciate you being at Beacon, a light for the city out in Hollywood to show people, hey, we got talent here too. Thank God we got some fly guys, man, representing too.
Starting point is 01:10:32 On the podcast side, man. We only growing from here, man. We got the bishop, you know what I'm saying? He caters to the people. Shout out to the QKW. I'm gonna put Mike on You got to come speak. You got to come speak for the Queens, Kings, and Whores. Bishop Don Juan.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Have an alcohol. Bring the green soup. Ain't a man. Let's show them, nigga. Out the gate. Know that. Know. Like, share, subscribe.
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