Club 520 Podcast - Jeff Teague on Nikola Jokic Top 10 ALL TIME, Warriors DONE, Knicks contenders?

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

On the Tuesday, December 31 episode of 520 in the Morning, Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen debate where Denver Nuggets superstar Nikola Jokic ranks among the best players in NBA history after Kevin Durant called him a Top 10 player of all time. The guys then discuss the future of the Golden State Warriors after Steph Curry’s 11 point night in the loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers, as well as whether the Knicks are capable of winning an NBA title after winning their 9th game of their last 10. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy New Year's Eve to all, man. Make sure y'all responsible tonight. Be safe and make sure you make it to the new year. Man, we had some great sports going on yesterday. Let's get straight to it. Hey, man, the Nuggets was whooping shit yesterday against the Jazz. 132-121. Man, Joker and Russell Westbrook had triple doubles yesterday, bro.

Crazy. Russell Westbrook, no turnovers. He was in there doing his thing yesterday for sure. It was good to see him out there. Killed with Joker like that. They wasn't in each other's way at all. He had a perfect triple double. Didn't miss a shot, didn't turn the ball over.

Unbelievable game for Russell off the bench. That's light work. I guess we don't give him enough credit for being the person that he's been, coming off the bench and being the player that he's been. I mean, getting a triple-double with another guy getting a triple-double is unbelievable. Shooting 100% too. And that light joker had a barely triple-double. Nah, my boy had 36-22. That was a

freaky triple-double. Yeah, that was crazy. It wasn't a lot of stats going around that situation. Westbrook still had 16-10-10. Like you said, 7-7 from the field. Also, 100% on free throws, two no turnovers. Perfect triple-double, man. It's an epitome to who Russell Westbrook is. Like, we talked about it.

That whole Laker situation put, like, a stain on his situation because people got to talk to him crazy and diminish him. Like, he ain't a Hall of Famer. Like, he ain't still a capable player. Beginning of the season, you talked about him going to the Nuggets. You were early to say it was going to work out. And so far, it's been sweet. He just needed a capable player. Beginning of the season, you talked about him going to the Nuggets. You were early to say it was going to work out. And so far, it's been sweet. He just needed time, bro.

He's great for the locker room. His game got to come to him. So, they straight. Nah, for sure, man. It's dope. Like you said, we get to honor Russell Westbrook because we had those years of smut for no reason. Every other team he's been on, he's been a consummate professional. All his teammates say how much they love him.

And he's been playing solid for this team this year, man. Is this what the Nuggets needed? I think they still need another piece. But I think Westbrook solidified scoring off the bench, playmaking off the bench. And obviously, we know he's a great rebounder. But they still missing a wing. They're going to need a wing. But, I mean, having Jokic on your team, man,

arguably probably the best player, top three player in the league, he can make things happen for your team that not too many people can. For sure. And Katie recently said that, you know what I'm saying, he was like, Joker is the best player in the league and probably top 10 all the time. How y'all feel about that statement? He the best in the league?

I mean. Shit, it ain't. Can't be mad at somebody saying that. He proven. Yeah, I think he the best in the league. He can probably win three in a row. I mean shit it ain't can't be mad at somebody saying it he proven yeah I think I think he the best in the league he can probably win three in a row

MVPs I mean the numbers he put up are crazy the way he play basketball is fun to watch he play the right way he makes the extra pass

he's not selfish at all the game looks so easy to him yeah we say he out of shape from what we looking at, but everything he do, he just make the game look easy and simple. I probably would agree with KD that he's the best. Top 10 all the time.

I mean, shit, I don't know how you can argue with it. I mean, if he get another MVP three in a row. Yeah. Only with who? Bron and a couple other people done that. Yeah, Garcia. He got a little bit of a... Yeah, that's just crazy, bro. Because when did NB get a couple other people done that. Yeah, Garcia. Yeah, he got, well, a little bit of, yeah, that's just crazy, bro.

Because when did NB get his MVP? Was it last year? Yeah. So, basically, yeah, like you said, but to take a break off and then still get three or four years is still phenomenal.

And he could have got it last year if he didn't take himself out the race, basically. Like, basically, I don't want this shit. To be in the MVP race for five straight years. Yeah.

And, like, be leading the race. In the guard era. Yeah. Yeah, like you said, in the era where the big is years. Yeah. And like be leading the race. In the guard era. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, in the era where the big is not, you know what I'm saying, the most pushed person in the league. And it's crazy. Man, he's just doing his thing.

I know we talked about it. Jordan Clarkson had 24. So he was killing. He's one of those players that's on the list for a lot of different teams. It's like, okay, it might take a second round pick or two to get him on to be a contender. But as a person, we talked about helping another team for sure. The Nuggets, you said they need a little bit more wing help. It's been rumored

that they've been in contact with the Wizards, maybe getting some help from over there. From Kyle Kuzma? Yeah, and they said, you know, maybe it's a stretch pause, but even getting Jordan Clarkson, I mean, not Jordan Clarkson, Jordan Poole on that team too. I mean, they could use another scorer on the wing, but I think they need another wing defender. Okay, you think

they could just try to go get Kuz? Yeah, I mean, he can guard. I mean, he's not known for defense, but I think they need another wing defender. Okay, you think they can just try to go get Kuz? Yeah, I mean, he can guard. I mean, he's not known for defense, but I think he's a competitor. He's a competitor, so I think, you know, he embraced that role trying to play on a team that has aspiration to win a championship. I mean, leaving the Wizards and going to Denver

is like, never mind. I ain't going to say that. Upgrade for sure. Yeah, going to a penthouse from the outhouse. You ain't going to say that. Upgrade for sure. Yeah, going to a penthouse from the outhouse. You know what I mean? Damn. I'm sure he'll embrace that role and probably have a good time doing it.

I always wonder what that feeling's like because you seen Dorian Finney-Smith. He was just like, I know what it's like to be the little brother in Brooklyn. Now I'm the big brother with the Lakers. When players go from teams that ain't good to good teams, do you think most of the time they be geeked about that? I mean, I never really had that situation.

I went from good teams to bad teams. So I probably feel different. You didn't come to a bad team, though. But then after that, you went to a mediocre team. Nah, you definitely started high with the Hawks. The Pacers, that was a good year, but it was turmoil.

I'm not saying the Pacers was a bad team. I'm saying when I got traded, I went from a bad team to a bad team. I never got a tremendous upgrade. Yeah, so I don't know what that feeling's like. For sure, man. Yeah, the Pacers, man. Jeff Teague needed to show more love. Man, we love Jeff Teague. So that's the agenda next year, man.

I mean, I love the Pacers. I mean, they just... When they asked you to rev the engine last year, you said no. Yeah, I love the Pacers. I mean, they just... When they asked you to rev the engine last year, you said no. I'm grown, man. I got y'all. We hold it down next year. I'm grown, bro. I said, I'm sitting in that car.

I'm so happy. I didn't want to tell you. I was like, what the? I want to put my hand up. Get in the car, bro. That's how it'll find me. Shout out to the Pacers, bro. They crazy. But like you said, Russell Westbrook, second time car, bro. That's out of pocket. Shout out to the Pacers, bro. They crazy.

But like you said, Russell Westbrook, second time ever, man. No missed shots, no missed turnovers in triple-double. That is crazy, man. Like, historic. And it's fitting for us, for sure. Nuggets, I know we talk about this quite a lot, but you still think they can contend in the West? Yeah, when you got the best player in the league, arguably.

Okay. You always got a chance. And they got capable players. I mean, Jamal Murray, we know he can have moments. Aaron Gordon, he can have breakouts, moments, and stuff like that. And they get a Kuzma or a Jordan Poole, I think those guys are more than capable of having moments. Yeah, they just got to click at the right time.

Yeah. And having Westbrook as your backup to run your team, bro, you in good hands for sure. Especially how he played with the young boys. He ain't in that way. He ain't hating on them either. Yeah, that's all. And having Westbrook as your backup to run your team, bro, you in good hands. For sure. Especially how he played with the young boys. He ain't in that way. He ain't hating on them either. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

He really let his ego all the way down. That's what people thought it was hard for him to do, and he's proven. Like, shit, I can rock out with anybody. His career aged pretty well. Hell yeah. For sure. I thought it would be tough for him, too. I ain't going to lie.

To be how dominant he was. Yeah. I never thought that he would age like he's aging. And his personality was like, I'm not no bench niggas. Facts. I understand. Yeah. Because you think about the trips he took, you know what I'm saying?

You look at the Houston situation. You look at the Washington situation. It's like all those teams he went to, he may have the best stats in Houston. But he flourished in every one of those roles. So the Lakers was anomaly, obviously. But shout out to Russell Westbrook, man. It's just easy to pick on Russ because him and his KD beef.

Yeah, and he don't talk. You know what I'm saying? He don't really go out and say too much about nothing. He just put his head down the hoop. So shout out to Russell Westbrook, man. Crazy game yesterday for sure. Cavs went crazy yesterday. Best in the league record-wise, 28-4.

Beat the sleeves off the Warriors, 113-95. There's a goal at 25-8. Donovan Mitchell, 23-4. Shout the sleeves off the Warriors, 113-95. There's Gall at 25-8. Donovan Mitchell, 23-4. Shout-out to Trace Jackson-Davis. Team Teague alumni had a smooth double-double yesterday, but 16-16. Went crazy. Steph only had 11 yesterday, but Jonathan Kaminga had 18-10. We're going to

put too much stock in this. We're just going to show some love to the Cavs whooping ass yesterday. The Cavs, they really a good team. I mean, I seen Trace had a good stat line, but him and Kaminga was broke as hell. They couldn't make no layups for shit. Or Buddy Hill. Yeah, but the Cavs are just a will-will machine, bro.

They play great together. You can tell how Donovan Mitchell play. He just want to win. He not overshooting, overkilling. He only averaging 23 this year, somewhere around there. there and for us that's kind of low for him yeah him being that upper 26 27 range so you can tell he took a step back for their team to be better because they got some more players that's developing uh they're just garland around 20 points and then you got other people flourishing in their role so uh the way they playing together mean, I think they're a real solid team.

They could be in the Eastern Conference Finals for sure. Most definitely. I was going to ask y'all how y'all feel about that backcourt with him and with DG. I know a lot of people are speculating if Derrick's guard is going to make the All-Star game and how y'all feel about that backcourt

so far this year? I like them. They top three? Yeah, they haven't top three yet. Yeah, they haven't. I mean, they got the record to show. I was debating about this this morning when I was looking at what we were going to talk about, and I was just like, dang, do you pick Darius Garland over Trey Young and Kade Cunningham

because they team having so much success? Or do you go, nah? Man, I think with the East guards this year, I think it's going to be hard for Darius to get in, even though he's probably deserving. Like you said, great stats in the number one team. But you look at Jalen Brunson, you look at Damian Lillard, is he going to beat them over?

I'm asking y'all. I mean... I'm just going through a list of people. I think Jalen Brunson more than definitely deserves to be on that team. He should be an all-star starter

in my eyes, but he probably won't be. But then you got... How do you say Darius Garland, they having the best season ever, arguably for the Cavs, since LeBron's whatever runs. They number one in the East. I think you just choose the best players with the best stats.

That's me. I don't care who win or lose, though. That's for the players. The All-Star game is for the best talent to touch the floor. Yeah, but that ain't fair. Because you get something like somebody got to score the ball. So if I'm the best talent, if I'm LaMelo and we got seven wins, but that ain't fair because you get something like somebody got scored a ball. So if I'm the best talented, if I'm LaMelo and we got seven wins,

but I averaged 30, I should make the All-Star team. Yeah, because I'm killing. Yeah, but somebody... The All-Star game is for shits and giggles, bro. Alright, one year Tony Rowland averaged 22 for Philly. They won like 10 games. That's, but it's probably

so many other people averaging. I'm just saying. Shout out to T-Roll. I'm just saying, but shit, we had, shit,

we had everything. Shout out to T-Roll, for sure. We love to have you on Club 520, but at that time, I'm asleep. There was probably

12 other niggas averaging that, bro. I'm just saying. I'm Lonzo Ball averaging 30 and 10, bro, that's different than 22. He missed a lot of games, too, though.

Okay, so that's probably what's going to probably knock him out of the situation because he missed games. Man, they won seven games. He's knocked out. Yeah. Now, Trey Young's situation is interesting because 22 and 12 in the Hawks, he has to be an all-star. I thought about more what you said yesterday.

I'm like, yeah, he has to be an all-star, 22 and 12. I don't think that K should make it. I think K should probably get in there, too, because like we said, what the Pistons were last year and what they are now, a lot is because of him and his, come on, bro, 24, 10, and 12. I don't think that K should make it. I think K should probably get in there, too, because like we said, with the Pistons were last year and what they are now, a lot is because of him. Come on, bro. 24, 10, and 7.

I love Darius Garland. I just, I don't like... He just might be the odd man out, unfortunately. Yeah, but I just don't like the multiple player on the team. All-star. Just because they're number one.

So you think only... I always hated that, bro. Fuck y'all. Oh, especially your team 100% you probably really like tipped the cake for me y'all the Hawks kicked it over sending four niggas

is crazy I mean the Pistons won or the Hawks won the Hawks bro just because the Pistons the Pistons like or the Hawks won? The Hawks, bro. Just because the Pistons, the Pistons, like, they really, they want a chip.

They want a chip, bro. Like, Ben Wallace is out of pocket. Nobody wants a Ben Wallace all-star jersey, but Ben Wallace was an enforcer. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So it made more sense.

Like, the Cavs, they almost sent five. I mean, the Hawks almost literally sent five players to the Hawks. No, the fuck we did. Y'all was finna see

a whole star in five. No, they wasn't. They was pushing for DeMarco Hart. Yes, they was. And I was hating. I was hating. They was not pushing for DC.

They was picking between him and Kyle. The only reason they made somebody got hurt. Dang. Respect. So it should have been somebody else from another team. Why would we get another nigga from the game?

Kyle was an all-star for us. Nah, that's what I'm saying. Niggas was good for that moment for the team so far as the NBA, but the all-star game, bro, put the all-stars in the game. That's all I'm saying, bro. I love Cal Corver. I love Ben

Wallace, but come on, bro. You gotta give, bro. Hey, people vote who they vote. That is true. No, because you was making an argument about winning, you know, whoever's winning. I mean, that's cool, bro, but damn, bro. I'm just saying, you gotta play

for something. That's what make you an all-star. You make your team better. That's real. Just because I'm cold, it's a bunch gotta play for something that's what make you an all-star you make your team better that's real like just cause I'm cold it's a bunch of niggas that's cold you like

you put somebody else on the Wizards they can average 25 30 I remember that was a conversation a lot with Brad Beal even though we know

Brad Beal's elite they were just like alright yeah Brad Beal's averaging 27, 28 but they trash and it's just like I get it but I think that might be

a threshold with certain people like alright, alright, if you averaging 24, 25 on the sad team, then so be it. You averaging 30. Nah, bro, because I used to be shitty when Dame wasn't making the All-Star game, bro. That was a problem at first. But they was actually good. That was good. It was just the guards and the West. I mean, he was getting

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Come on, that's what I just, that's why my beef is with, for real, with that. Yeah, I was going to say, you look at the Eastern Conference point guards we talked about, we go through the list. Darius Garland should definitely be in that conversation for sure,

but you look at him, you look at Jalen Brunson, you just keep it there for me, please look at the Hawks. You got Trae Young, Magic. I don't think any of their guards is going up, fortunately. Knicks, Jalen Brunson, for sure.

Celtics, probably none of their guards. Their wings will probably go. Cavs, obviously two people there who are capable. Pistons, Cade. Bulls, probably not. Pacers. Tyrese probably not making an all-star game this year. So, I mean, he should, man.

And Tyler Herro. You think Tyler Herro is going to get that all-star spot? I mean, he's in the conversation. He might not make it, but he's definitely in the conversation. He might not make it, but he's definitely in the conversation. He's averaging 24, playing well for the Heat. How many guards

make the All-Star game? Eight? It's weird. They have it like wings and bigs, don't they? I mean, it's a whole different format now. You know, they're playing them split-up teams

and all that type of stuff. People picking the team. Yeah, you're right. So I don't even know how it's going to go. Seven and 25 is crazy. If Tyler Herro... That's all I'm saying. Like, 30's gonna go 7-25 is crazy if Tyler Hero that's all I'm saying like

30 is cool but 7 wins is crazy I don't know probably but that's crazy I was rocking with K but all that LaMelo

and he missed games and he probably ain't gonna make the All-Star game even though he probably should with them stats but I don't know it's kind of crazy if Tyler Hero

get the All-Star bid over Darius Crowley no disrespect I'm not they get an award 20% of the games as well. Especially after getting tossed like that yesterday.

You got to get it out of DG. After getting judo flipped. I ain't mad at DG and Donovan making it though. I ain't mad at that at all. They both well deserve it. For sure, man. Interesting stat

about the Warriors. They started off hot this year, but they have had the same record in the last couple of games, I believe, as the Wizards as far as the winning stuff.

They have been trash. What do they do? They got to make a big splash trade. It ain't working with the young guys. And if y'all going to keep Steph, and y'all going to ride it out with Steph till he's done playing, you got to give him another start.

I mean, I like Kaminga and them guys, but it's just not working. If y'all going to rock out with Kaminga and them and stay with the young guys, y'all going to have to let Steph and Draymond and those dudes make some decisions. You know what I mean? If they still want to play for championships and stuff like that. You're going to have to. Yeah, both the Wizards and the Warriors are 4-13 in their last games.

Last 17 games. That's disgusting. They have to do something, bro. I don't know what it is i don't know if they're sending on business with coming but it just it looked weird bro and like you said if you're gonna have steph don't make him waste a year like this or if so just be trash out of way sitting and rebuild and go for the future but what they're doing right now obviously can't be it for sure and i don't think they want to i think it's draymond and steph they want to

play for something but i don't know who they trade for now. Do you trade? Obviously, they said they're not trading Jimmy, Miami. Yeah. Allegedly. You know, anything can change. You sent out the right package. I'm sure that they'll probably come back with a response. Yeah, especially since he's out for conditioning. Yeah, I don't know who else that you go after.

Yeah, we'll see. I always wonder. I think I got an idea. That trade that Draymond said that he wanted them to turn down. Paul George? No. Was that the one

they were talking about? I don't remember who you were talking about. I thought it was the marketing situation, but that's just an assumption, obviously. Oh, go get Laurie?

Yeah, I know they were talking about the offseason. I would love for them to go get Laurie. Hell yeah. That would make that team a lot better for sure. But we'll see, man.

Get well soon, Warriors. The Knicks keep whipping. They got the Wizards up out of here. 126-106. Cat, another phenomenal year, man. 32-13. Josh Harbaugh crazy yesterday. 24-15-10.

Trippie Dubb. Jalen Burns at 18-6. Nine of the last ten, man. Knicks got high at the right time, man. They playing great basketball. They supposed to get two all-stars, Jalen and Cat, for sure. Most definitely. Cat should be a starter.

Yeah, for sure. I think they both can be starters. I don't know if they will, but they both. They're in New York, too. That fan base should definitely make sure that they're starters, man. I think they solidified themselves as the second-best team in the East. I think they're better than York, too. That fan base should definitely make sure that they're starters, man. I think they solidified themselves as the second best team in the East. I think they're better than the Cavs. I think the Cavs are playing better basketball right now as a team.

But in a playoff setting, I want to take them over the Cavs. I'm a Cavs fan. Y'all know it. But the way Cat and the Knicks play, they got two dominant guys that any game can go off of 50. And the Cavs, I only think down if it can have those moments. I don't see Darius being able to get 50 or just to explode and take over a game like that. He can have a good game, but these two dudes can take the game over

and do whatever they want at any point in the game. It ain't too many teams with two capable players like that. No, for sure. Like you said, to be able to create on their own, I think the Cavs need to go get another piece that can be able to help score high volume off the bench for the playoff reasons. Like you said, Donovan Mitchell can definitely get you there.

Darius Grawler can definitely contribute, but they don't have the firepower that the Knicks have. Nah. Especially not in the series. Especially not since dude found his shot. Yeah, since Mike Hill. Perfect Mike Hill worked, boy. Yeah.

He's back. And like we said, OG, we talk about them going back between third and fourth option. Any given time, both of them will go crazy, man. That's just a tough team to deal with. They find their rhythm.

They damn near scary. I ain't gonna lie. They damn near a tough matchup for Boston, really. Unless Porzingis. If Porzingis is healthy, then it's a different matchup. But if Porzingis is out, it's a tough matchup for them. For sure. If Porzingis if Porzingis is healthy then it's a different matchup but if Porzingis is out

it's a tough matchup for him for sure if Porzingis and Drew is playing at a high high level it's a it's a wrap

yeah it's a wrap that's the scary part about them outside of that all healthy we're at a high level you right you right bro

them is even teams without Drew and Porzingis playing at a top tier level I would say the Knicks are a better team without Porzingis playing at the top two level. I would say the Knicks are a better team without Porzingis and Drew. Yeah. Because I think Drew is...

I agree. I think Drew is like the glue to that team. I think... Obviously, I know JT and JB, they superstars. They're killers. Yeah, superstars. But what Drew provides to that team is irreplaceable.

Yeah. And I think that OG, Mikel, I'm not saying they're going to stop Jason or Jalen at all, but I think they can match up. Yeah. They can make it tough.

Yeah, they can make it tough. I ain't going to stop them, but they can make it tough. I'll go on the limit and say, I mean, I respect the Porzingis, but how Cat looking this year,

I don't think he want that smoke. I know schemes and stuff play a matter in what you're talking about as well, but if it gets between them two, I'm taking Cat. I mean, yeah, you would take Cat, but shit. I know.

It's all schemes and how they move off. Yeah, that helps. That helps in Boston. Different. And that pick and roll going to get real scary with Cat. If Porzingis is there and Cat got a switch because Porzingis shoot threes. So now he got a switch on a JT and JB. That's when it gets spooky.

Spooky. Even with Al Horford because he shoot all threes. It could get real spooky fast. Put a ball on him. Yeah. Yeah, that drop coverage didn't help Cat last year at all. But like you said, come to Skins, but then Michelle Lopes and Nixman, they are whooping shit.

9 out of 10. Y'all think this could be a championship team? Nah. Y'all think so? You don't think they could have a crazy run and get through the East? Nah. Okay. They can make it to the East and come to Boston. They can make it to the East in conference finals,

so they can make it tough for Boston. Okay. But everybody healthy on Boston, it's a wrap, bro. Back to the championship, they go. For sure. I ain't mad at all at that situation. Other games,

I know y'all probably didn't tap in with this, but this was a crazy game yesterday. The Bulls beat the Hornets yesterday, OT, 115-108. Kobe White was killing, almost had a triple-double, 23-10-9. Miles Bridges was hooping yesterday OT 115-108 Kobe White was killing Almost had a triple-double 23-10-9 Miles Bridges was hooping yesterday

31-12-8 I ain't gonna lie They was broke as hell Did y'all see how many threes they missed? Bro, they missed with them Their 75 threes combined Yeah, bro It was nasty

It was crazy though, bro It was crazy They missed 75 threes And still scored 115-108 In overtime Bro, that shit Nasty work I think it's just a That's bad basketball, bro It was crazy. You missed 75 threes and still scored 115 in 108? In overtime. Bro, this is nasty work. I think it's just a—that's bad basketball, bro.

You can get that motherfucker up, though. Man, they was coming so fast, bro. You're damn near— 10 for 43, bro. You're damn near playing within 10 seconds of the shot clock. Yeah. You missed that many threes, bro, and still have a high score again. Take that. Y'all damn near looking like Phoenix when Steve Dash was there.

Getting them FGAs up, bro. Damn. I know a lot of people, especially the OGs be mad. They was like, man, talk about the shooters. They're like, I wish I could have played in this area. We can shoot the ball whenever the hell you want to with no consequence. Man. I think Reggie Miller, as much as the smut I put on his name,

he probably average 30 today. Reggie. Reggie Allen. Oh, my God. Like, people like Dennis Scott. D3. People like him would have made hundreds of... Mitch Richmond would have averaged 30 in his name. Man, hundreds of millions of dollars

because the way they shot the ball back then. Rex Chapman. Yeah. All these dudes had burners. Shit ton of Klay Thompson's. Even Rip Hamilton. Yeah, like the way they shoot the ball yeah bro and at that time you only could shoot like people were shooting like three or four like players three or four threes a game yeah and that was low-key like max like yeah having a hot night even like

a guy like jj reddick he was way before his time you know i mean like i remember when i first came in the league if you shot a first side three like coming up in transition you was out of pocket like a pull up three in transition you was wowing like

you bugging I think the first person I started seeing do that was Chauncey Billups yeah Chauncey Billups I'm not saying nothing you know

of course J.J. Reddick too but Chauncey was a pull up nah Chauncey was cold at that but like you had to be like Chauncey Billups. Chauncey had a trust in his coach that most players did not have. I was saying, you could be anybody now, and you could shoot a pull-up first side three if you open.

Like, that was Chauncey Billups. Like, Chucky Atkins wasn't coming in doing that. You know what I'm saying? Chucky Atkins, boy, he had a long career. Yeah, bro, just tossing it back up? Chucky Haggis, boy, he had a long career. Yeah, but I'm just tossing it back up. Chucky wasn't

coming in and pulling that. Chucky was going to get that ball, you know, penetrate, get the ball to rip him. And then he'll

shoot a, you know, come back around to him, he'll shoot that three. Open top of the key shot. Yeah, he ain't

pulling up in transition. Shout out to Chauncey Billings, man. If you're a young guard, watch Chauncey Billings,

man, learn something. Elite point guard for sure. Clippers beat the Pelicans yesterday 1-16 to 1-13 MP's he 35

P's James Harden 27-4 MP you know what I mean you know I put that back in your bag is MP an all-star

is he an all-star I don't know man I'm not saying he's not deserving I don't know bro go to MP's stats he averages 24 he ain't getting no assists MP you ain't passing MP ain't passing that ball that's why James I'm saying he's not deserving. I don't know, bro. Go to MP's stats. He averaged at 24.

He ain't getting no assists. MP, you ain't passing. MP ain't passing that ball. That's why Jay's hard on my team. We took Paul George's spot. Don't ask too much. Okay, let's look at Paul. Let's compare Paul George and Norman Powell. Oh, please don't go to Paul George's stats right now.

No, I'll just say that. No, today. We can even do last year's stats. Well, I'm a... Paul George asked for a max deal, so if I'm Norman Powell... I speak high on MP

on this show, but he is not fucking with Paul George. Oh, he's an overall body of work, but we're saying compare... Oh, right now? I'm saying I'm going

to the drawing boards and I'm getting... I'm asking for a max deal from the Clippers or whatever Paul George asks for. Yeah. If I'm MP, I'm going to go I'm asking for a max deal from the Clippers or whatever Paul George asks for. If I'm MP,

I'm going to go compare my stats for Paul George. If he averaged 22 last year and y'all thought about giving him a three-year deal at whatever number, I'm going to be like, I averaged 24. We still winning. That was with Kawhi too. Speaking of Kawhi,

Kawhi is targeted to be back in the next two weeks how y'all feel about that? Him and Peasy I don't believe it but I don't believe it I don't either bro they said

he was targeted in the first week of January whereas I had an extra week on there to give him some grace so he's supposed to be back in the next two weeks but I ain't no sweat on nobody's paper

or nothing but people like Scottie Barnes a Max player most definitely yeah Norman Powell um a max player yeah most definitely yeah norman powell's a max player hey boy you don't know steve ballmer i ain't doing this trying to get some tickets bro i've been

i mean i nicknamed you for a reason this was last year you earned your nickname because i saw it in you bro pause but like yeah max me bro max me he'd be killing for sure yeah he'd be killing This was last year you earned your nickname because I saw it in you, bro, Paul. But, like, yeah, Max Me, bro. Max Me, bro. He'd be killing for sure. Yeah, he'd be killing, bro. I'm a big fan of him, man. Y'all was thinking about giving Paul George. I mean, Paul George come with superstardom, too, though.

Yeah. He brings fans and stuff. And he got that 22 off being the first option. And I got to shoot, bro. You know, I love Mpeasy, but the Mpeasy, bro, it's probably quiet. Yeah, team shoot for sure. You know, I love Mpeasy, but the Mpeasy, bro, it's probably quiet. Yeah, team shoot for sure.

Probably quiet. But I'm just saying, maybe he deserves an all-star, though. We got to see who's all-star. If I'm averaging

20 seed, this is the beef that I got. I'm saying you got to look at the West. Yeah, look at the guard. You got Bron.

Man, it's quiet, bro. I don't know how West for the forwards. No Mpeasy. It's Bron. KD. KD. If you go through. I'll let y'all do your thing, bro. How was for the forwards? No, man. It's Brian. KD.

KD. If you go through. I'll let y'all do y'all thing, bro. I'm averaging 25. Brian, go to the Western Conference teams with me real quick. Yeah, so that's going to be the tough part about it. James Harden will be All-Star this year. Has to be.

Yeah, for sure. But you got, so is he Thunder? That's Shea. And J-Dub. I'm asleep. Yeah. I hear it. Oh, man. We're going back to that conversation. J-Dub, make'm asleep. Yeah. I hear it. Oh, man.

We'll go back to that conversation. J-Dub make it over. No. Number eight, 26 and five. We're going back to that best team. I gotta stop, bro. No, bro. No.

Norman Powell. Over J-Dub? Fucking killing. Yes, bro. It's in Shea. And be cool. Be smooth, bro. So no J-Dub.

No, bro. It's Norman Powell. So how you get James Harden and Norman Powell, but you don't get J-Dub and Shea? We a Be smooth, bro. So, no J-Dub. No, bro. It's Norman Powell. So, how you get James Harden and Norman Powell, but you don't get J-Dub and Shea? We a better duo, bro. No, y'all. Y'all, you crazy. You crazy. You crazy.

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get my boy a jersey bro alright and I love three forwards so you got Brian, KD, J-Dub J-Dub at 16 bro

can we go back to the ranking okay so we go with the Wimby's definitely make it but he's a big Timberwolves A.E. A.E. might make it

oh Anthony might make it all-star game for sure LeBron, A.D. will make an All-Star game, for sure. LeBron, AD going to make the All-Star game, for sure.

Nuggets, you're going to get Jokic. I don't know if you get anybody else on the team. No. Mavericks.

Luka out, though. Yeah, he's out. Well, he ain't going to be out until then, but I'm sure he... I mean, I don't think he going to play.

Come on, y'all. I think MP going to take Luka's spot. Anybody on the Rockets getting an All-Star spot? I suspect. It's a gun. Okay, it's a big... Yeah. But MP going to take Luka's spot anybody on the Rockets getting an all-star spot it's a gun okay it's a big

yeah but MP going to be a replacement for Luka do Kyrie make the all-star team Kyrie better make the all-star team yeah but MP John Marino make the all-star team too

he too he out team hey give my nigga a rep jersey it's crazy he definitely going to be I mean I ain't mad at it if he do. I won't even make it.

Shit, Max, I'll MP. Look at these teams, y'all. Let's go scroll to the bottom, please. Y'all got Norman Powell fucked up, bro. Yeah, because nobody on the Pelicans is making it. The Trailblazers, Jazz. And if somebody from the fucking Pelicans make it, LaBella Ball better fucking make the All-Star game.

First and foremost. Lori Mark, then he's an All-Star player. I'll just say, I don't think you can get two. I don't think you can get two on a Clippers. Two off the Clippers is crazy. We did. If you don't get two.

In a way. If you don't get two from the Thunder, come on, bro. Nah, bro. That's crazy. Bro, you 12, 16, bro. No, it's over with, bro.

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I ain't joking. I'm serious, though. He is older, bro, for real. Shout out to him. serious, though. He is older, bro. For real. Shout out to NB. Give my nigga an all-star nod, bro. He deserve to be an all-star. Hey, he deserve it, but... Man, y'all niggas wild.

If he make it and J-Dub don't make it... When be gonna make it? These all-stars might smack the West, but we'll talk about that for a different conversation. Nah, but I hope he make it, too. Shout out to NB. Man, having a great year. Nah, for sure.

He was killing 35. Definitely done the sneeze that he been hooping all year, especially standing on business. CJ McCle Shout out to MP, man, having a great year. Nah, for sure. He was killing 35. Definitely nothing to sneeze at. He'd be hooping all year, especially standing on business. CJ McCollum had 33 yesterday. Gotta show some love for that. Free that man too.

Pelicans, y'all gotta get people about here, man. It's a lot of quality players on the team that deserve real homes, man. Y'all hear bullshit. I don't know where CJ McCollum go.

Send him to Milwaukee, bro. Him and Dame link up. Let him go crazy again. I don't know who you trade out of Milwaukee then if you go get him. Oh, shit. The Pelicans, I don't know who you trade out of Milwaukee then if you go get him. Oh, shit. The Pelicans, I don't know what they asking prices.

They probably just looking to move on. Give them a pick. Couple picks and a rotation player. Maybe. You probably get it done. All these second round pick moves. You see what happened with Dennis Schroeder. If you can move people for second round picks, obviously a different situation with the Nets. But, shit, if you can get him gone for that, make it happen. Ain't got too much to lose. And he'll definitely help that team.

I mean, but Dennis Schroeder about to be an unrestricted free agent. That is true. But what's CJ's deal? I don't know what CJ on. I'm sure he on a deal. I think he had signed an extension not too long ago. Maybe two years ago.

Yeah, we'll look it up another time. But yeah, free that man too. Man, 76 to beat the Blazers yesterday. 125 to 103. Built to ask situation to be. Had 37 to 9. Tyrese Maxey, 23 and 3. No, A. Simon. Fuck my parlay up. 25, 4, and nine. I reached maxi 23 and three. No,

I saw my parlay up 25, four and four. Then he fucked the, the, the layup. That's who might need to get traded. Simon. Yeah.

Simon's my hemorrhaging regret. I got to get up out of there, bro. But he, he's another person who could go help a team for sure. He's a verified bucket. I would like to see him in Denver. He would.

Hey, I'd love to see him in Denver, bro. He wouldn't be bad in Denver. They ain't going to trade him in the conference, but he wouldn't be bad. Yeah, they won't do that at all. He wouldn't be bad. Damn, 76ers, six of the last seven.

I don't even know why we put this up there. Have they figured it out? No. Why not? They're playing good basketball. Go to their record. Go to the standings, please. Bless you.

Thank you. Obviously, it wouldn't be back. I mean, it'd definitely make a difference, but they are what? Theyings, please. Bless you. Thank you. Obviously, with Embiid back, I mean, it definitely make a difference, but they are what? They 13-17. They started out. On a six-game

dinner win streak and they only got 13 wins? I mean, they started out so bad. I mean, Embiid missed the majority of the games. I think, man, by the time this ends,

by the time All-Star break, they be dang their ace. Everybody healthy, man. Paul George has still gotta find his way though yeah he hasn't been he's been struggling he only had

only had nine last night only happened 13 in the last five but but they won without him though most definitely I'm just getting my hate off right now cause realistically like you said by all-star break bro

if they catch another win streak bro they gonna be a problem to deal with yeah they gonna be in seven this is a team you don't wanna face in the playoffs so the Cavs, all these guys are really

nervous about them being the eighth seed or whatever. You know what I mean? Because that's a bad matchup. That's a bad matchup. Imagine being the number one seed in the East,

having a crazy, you playing a team that's probably better than you. And you get in beat in the first round. Like, that fucking sucks. Yeah,

because, shout out to Jared Allen, I don't think he want that smoke. And then PG, he's still capable. And then Tyrese Maxey. He just into a little slump right now. We know how we feel about Tyrese Maxey.

Oh, yeah. Michelle, man, get well soon to the Blazers as well. Glad my youngin' back, though. Michelle, Kings beat the Mavs yesterday. I told you. 110 to 100. The Mavs saw a lot of people yesterday, so they should have won that game.

33-6-8 for De'Aaron Fox. The bonus, 17-16-7. Just to deal with it, he was killing yesterday. 30 ball. P.J. Washington had 28 as well. They almost beat them yesterday, missing a lot of starters,

but this will say more for the Mavs. This will say more for the Kings. I mean, they just... Good dub for the Kings. And shout out to De'Aaron Fox, too. He spoke on, you know what I mean, that shit Lou said. He said none of that shit is on, you know what I mean, that shit Lou said. He said none of that shit is true.

You know what I mean? But you can run with that narrative. Go on, too. Yeah, that was interesting back and forth. I think that's the power of, you know, players having a voice. He was just like, hey, we wouldn't have known that. Not trying to correct Lou,

but trying to get some information to it. And then Lou was like, I wouldn't have known that, bro. I'm just saying. But I do love the fact that everybody's just like, nobody wanted to fire Mike Brown. Well, somebody's lying because he got fired. They said he was underperforming. Damn! That's what

the Kings people said. He was underperforming. Yeah. De'Aaron Fox was just saying, bro, just do your thing, but don't put it to me like I'm on some LeBron shit. Yeah, he ain't a coach killer by no means. Yeah. And you can't say

that the organization is trash and they're terrible and then blame De'Aaron Fox because if they're that type of organization, trust me, and I'll disrespect De'Aaron Fox, he wouldn't have

that type of pool, bro. Yeah. That's just their decision, but that is crazy. Shout out to Mike Brogan that payday, though. Pull up to that. We got a job for you.

Tonight's games, going to New Year's Eve. They got some matinee games today. It's crazy. Raptors at Celtics. I'm going to New Year's Eve they got some matinee games today it's crazy Raptors at Celtics I'm going to go with the Celts I was surprised

it was a pause on that one I don't believe in Toronto Bucks at Pacers Pacers money line man my boys was in town I ain't even hit them up

they going to be in town for a while too I think free money for the Pacers right there get that money nah Bucks going to be in town for a while, too, I think. Free money for the Pacers right there. Get that money. Nah, Bucs going to win that one, though. Clippers at Spurs.

Clips. I'm going to go Spurs for some reason. I'm going to go Spurs. I don't got no. I don't care. T-Wolves at Thunder. Thunder. Yeah.

Okay. I'm rolling. Grizzlies at Suns. Suns. I'm going Grizzlies. Js Suns I'm going Grizzlies Jive out So I'm going Suns Cavs at Lakers

Cavs I'm going to take the Lakers You're going to take the Lakers? Yeah I think Brian playing right Take the Lakers That's going to be An interesting game for sure

On the back to back I'm going to roll with the Cavs man See what happens But like you said It is the Cavs Brian might fucking run a kill Verified buckets Be here Who is getting to it? I'm giving it run with the Cavs, man. See what happens. But like you said, it is the Cavs. Brian might fucking run a kill. Verified buckets be here.

Who is getting to it? I'm giving it to the youngsters in college. Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper. Triple W. You know what I mean? Dylan Harper had a triple W yesterday. Ace had 24 and 8. So that's who I'm giving my verified buckets to today.

Man, they was killing yesterday. Young lottery picks on the way. I'm going to show some love to NB, man. 37-9, 76 to be catching a lot of flack. That's nothing to sneeze at at all, bro.

He was killing yesterday for sure. I'm going to agree with being with Dylan Harper. I was watching that game and see how he controlled the pace and playing

against a Columbia team that was 11-1. Wasn't a bad team. Not at all. So, they played well yesterday. Shout out to De'Aaron Fox, though, too.

You know what I mean? Still playing through all that smut. And Embiid, you know what I mean? Old school. You talking about old school? Young old school. Yeah, he brought age. Still doing his thing.

I don't think that gets spoke on enough. Who older? Embiid or Norman Powell? Definitely Embiid. Embiid was supposed to get drafted in 03. Watch now. But you'd still be kicking and killing, bro. Oh, definitely Embiid. Embiid was supposed to get drafted in 0-3. But he'd still be kicking and killing, bro. It don't go unnoticed, King.

It don't go unnoticed. He was supposed to be the 0-3 draft plan. It don't go unnoticed. But, y'all, man, last but not least, I got to show some love to Joker, man. I know we get normalized by it, but 36-22-11 is fucking crazy, bro. He was whooping shit yesterday. Last one of the year, man.

Be here. Get well soon. Who needs some encouragement going into the new year? My dog, whatever you say. Well, y'all got some names fucking crazy, bro. He was whooping shit yesterday. Last one of the year, man. Be here. Get well soon. Who needs some encouragement going into the new year? My dog, whatever you say. Well, y'all got some names on this, bro. Charlemagne Legay. Gershon. Gershon. Yablousi.

I'm going to take the safe one. The old road cat ducking on star. Oh, sorry, man. Chill out. Hey! Okay, cat. You're busy.

Hey! Play that again. Welcome the young boy to the league. That's hard. On the island, cat? Yeah. Young boy, excuse me. Hey, with the left? Yeah, cats's hard. On the island, cat? Yeah. Young boys, excuse me. 20? Hey, with a left?

Yeah, cat's a starter. Oh, without question. Yeah. Without a question. I don't want a cat jersey, but that move crazy. I got it. In the leggings. Yeah.

I do need a cat New York jersey sign. I got the Timberwolves. I need the cat jersey. Damn, he's skilled in the motherfucker. Yeah, man. I told y'all aberwolves. I need the cat. Damn, he's skilled in the motherfucker. Yeah, man. I told y'all a long time ago. My Lord, bro. You just said that

very, very, very early on about how good cat was. Even back in Minnesota that you spoke on that highly. One of these days, we're going to have to go back and really talk about how that Timberwolves

tried to fuck up the Eastern Conference, but not today. Mr. Gershon, post-rise, didn't he? I beat him yesterday. Crazy.

There's some names on this motherfucker for sure oh yeah Charlamagne McGee hey my girl DJ Envy

and you with the Breakfast Club you know what's crazy he got back one more time he got back in the league because of the Olympics and Duncan O'Brien

that's fire yeah he had a great 2024 he's been playing great like he's really been playing well for the Sixers not even trying to be funny Try that one more time. He got back in the league because of the Olympics and Duncan O'Brien. That's fire. Yeah. He had a great 2024. And he's been playing great. He's really been playing well for the Sixers. Not even trying to be funny. Nah, he's been hooping.

He's been hooping. Even that game against the Celtics, he played well. Made some big shots. And tonight, I think he might have had 18, 19 points in this game. You know what the crazy part about it is? He came to this team after having a great Olympics. Could have had a different suit. He's like, all right, I'm going to go to this team.

I'm going to get to play. And we're going to have aspirations. know what I'm saying, aspirations. Boy, I know he was shitty them first two months up there in Philly because they was boo-boo. He probably was hype because he was getting a chance to play. Shit, you know, when you come back to the league,

it ain't always guaranteed. I mean, you signed, but that don't mean you're going to be in the rotation. And while they was out, he got a chance to show what he was doing. He was playing well. And now he's stuck in the rotation. Now he's about to solidify himself as a real NBA player

and he's going to be probably get paid. So it's an average of 10? Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. You in the rotation, for sure you're getting 10 piece. Another good one,

I mean, a good one goes to Joe Budden. My boy was naked outside the apartments and shit. Oh yeah, the sleepwalking situation? Yeah.

Get well soon, Joe, man. Get well soon, boy. Hey, I love that back in Park's crib, though. I always like the OG. Get well soon, Joe, man. Get well soon, Lord. Hey, I love that back in Park's crib, though. I always like the OG Joe

Button vibes when he's in the park's basement with the paints behind. That's the real vibes,

man. Oh, that's what they're doing now? Yeah, they're back in there for a temporary situation.

Get well soon, Joe. You know we fuck with the JVP up here. I'm definitely got to show some get well

soon to the Pelicans. Ten straight losses, man. 19 to the last 20. Yeah, they try to get Cooper flagged down. Yeah, I think Cooper might be going to the last 20. Yeah, they trying to get Cooper flagged down.

You know, man. Cooper might be going to the Noli. Damn. Do that Noli clap. I'd give him some Reebok as soon as he touched down. That song was really weak, too.

You disrespectful. It is a good song. Shout out to Wacky Skip, man. We don't disrespect. Do that Noli clap. You got Juvenile hate. I don't realize. You got Juvenile hate.

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Dang, boy. They please believe. That shit just didn't age well. That's it, bro. Shout out to Juve, man. Listen, man. We appreciate y'all. Show a little appreciation, man.

We started this out almost the end of this year. We in and out strong. We appreciate y'all. We can't wait to show y'all what we have in store for 2025 for the morning show and the podcast as well. Thank you for your support. We hope y'all have a great year. We damn sure plan on having one ourselves. We'll catch y'all next year at 520 in the morning show and a podcast as well. Thank you for your support. We hope y'all have a great year. We damn sure plan on having one ourselves.

We'll catch y'all next year at 520 in the morning. Hold on. I got a crash out. Oh, you got a crash out at the end of the year? That nigga did a hell of a speech. He said, hold your horses. Yeah. Thank you, Malcolm X.

For the DraftKings purposes, you know, I'll be the crowd of yours. Tonight, Shea, 25. Anthony Edwards, 25. Anthony Edwards, 25. Dane, 20. Jason Tatum, 25. Norman Powell will get 20 points today. LeBron James, 20. Kevin Durant,

25. $500 of light days, $8,000 for your grandchild. Yeah, that sounds like it could be doable. Is Dane playing, though? Yeah. Okay. Dane's playing. He talked to sources? He locked in? Yeah, he locked in, bro. So we good.

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