Club 520 Podcast - Saudi Arabia featuring Zaire Franklin
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My name is DJ Wells.
To my far left, we got resident chef Bishop Greenleaf, my boy B here, out the Pearleys.
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My man from the Annapolis Cubs, Zaire Franklin.
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about that a little bit later before we get into the episode wait until we got against
like we already asked a fry question start to show off so i gotta ask you obviously you've
been playing football a long time what was that one one moment where you was just like, damn, I don't know if I'm ready for this?
Probably first practice of college, bro.
I remember being out there.
I'm so damn tired, bro.
I couldn't even backpedal.
We had this crazy-ass receiver, bro.
Bro, dude crazy-ass.
He from upstate New York, bro.
South Syracuse.
I had to say something slick to him.
He was a senior.
He said, what?
Bro, that dude ran full speed, knocked me right on my ass.
I can't breathe.
My linebacker coach was like, bro, we left you in Philly if you could do all that.
I thought to myself, like, man, I should have just went on with the Villanovas.
I mean, I wouldn't even build for this dude in my life.
But we figured it out, though, for sure.
You sound like him.
You said your first practice at Wake was different.
Yeah, the conditioning. I was like, yeah, I'm going You sound like him. You said your first practice at Wake was different. Yeah, the conditioning.
I was like, yeah, I'm going to transfer back home.
I promise you, boy.
If he liked it.
I mean, we're going to get into it, too, but I got a question for y'all.
Obviously, both of y'all made it to the stage.
It was a big of a jump like that from high school to college,
or was it even worse from college to the league?
You got it.
I mean, for me, I would probably say high school to college
just because I feel like you were in high school,
you know, you playing dudes from your area, you know them.
So even like I went to private school,
but I'm like, all right, he from Bucks County.
Like, I done played Bucks County before.
You go to college, you playing dude in Mississippi.
That's when you first really get around the Miami boys.
You really see what that's like.
You know what I mean?
It just be, when you go to college, that's like your first time.
When you get to the league, you done already played half these dudes in games.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You get to the league, I done played against a dude at Clemson.
I done played against NC State.
So, it's like now they just my teammates.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I feel like that jump to college was probably harder.
It's probably different for us.
Like, college was easy.
Like, most of the time it's easier for, like, basketball players.
When you get to the league, now you're playing grown men who got years in the league,
and they already established, and they kind of like, you're a rookie.
You don't know how to draw fouls.
You foul in every play.
It just is way different.
The game's so much faster.
Like, you're only sitting in the – people can't sit in the lane and do three seconds.
It's like you're on the island all the time. So was way different i wasn't ready my rookie year i'm like damn so with speed the biggest adjustment for both of y'all yeah for me hell yeah pace of
the game uh yeah yeah probably i mean everything just be going so fast like i feel like in the nfl
it's just like i know jeff could probably tell you, it's just the details, bro.
Like, in the NFL, they say that shit finna happen at 16 yards.
That shit about to happen at 16 yards.
No question.
Every time.
Like, in college, you got, like, a little bit of a wiggle.
And, like, you could just be nice and be better than people in the NFL.
A lot of times, they just, boys, just be precise, bro.
That'd just be the biggest difference.
Yeah, that's the crazy part about football.
Like, it's so detail-oriented.
And, like, especially when you playing against some QBs
that's, like, really like that, they know every counter.
They know every off.
Like, you really got to study to play the game.
Like, as much as people are taught, like, a brute sport,
you really got to know, like, your fucking plays and stuff.
That's crazy to me.
No, no question.
I mean, then when you going against, like, one of them,
like, I ain't going to hold you.
Like, when we had Luck, bro, my rookie year, bro, like, man, he was just a different beast, bro. I ain't even going to me. No, no question. I mean, then when you go against like one of them, I ain't gonna hold you. Like when we had luck bro, my rookie year bro,
like man, he was just a different beast bro.
I ain't even gonna cap.
He was fucking y'all up in practice.
Bro, he was just a different energy.
Like when he was there bro, like I'm talking about,
he wasn't, he started,
when he practiced the offense just moved different.
You old, like he noosed, like I'm talking about,
I'm a rookie, I'm lined up over two, I'm about to blitz.
He don't see me, I ain't even gonna look at him.
He, that's him right there, he about to come to me,
I'm old, I ain't even look at you.
He just understood how, yeah, Luck was really like that.
We gonna get that, Luck was like that.
That mean Tom Brady was crazy.
Cause he the greatest, right?
He better than Peyton Manning, right?
Oh, he disrespecting me murdering?
See, now you trying to get me in trouble,
see, that's crazy, that's crazy. What Iton Manning, right? Oh, you disrespecting me, murdering me? Now you trying to get me in trouble, see, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
What I'ma say is though, look, look.
I'ma say this though, we played time, bro.
Like my first time, like my first time,
my first start was against Tom, my rookie year.
I ain't know what the hell was going on.
He was dicing that shit up.
I ain't gonna hold you, that shit was bad.
Edelman had just came back from like a four game suspension
Thursday night, I'm not that young.
Yeah, Joe ass in a blender.
Bro, Adam hit me with this crazy ass spin move.
I ain't even know white boys move like that.
I'm like, this nigga fresh off an injury.
How he spinning like this?
That's crazy.
He was like, bro, I played, we played him
when he was in Tampa, bro.
I swear to God, bro.
Like I'm now, I'm on, I'm like year four.
So like, I done been in the league.
I promise you, he still was out there.
It was like, he had like an aura about him.
Like, you know how Dave Chappelle said, Rick James, I'm looking at, I'm like, bro, that's was out there It was like he had like an aura about him You know how Dave Chappelle said
Rick James, I'm looking at
I'm like, bro, that's time out there, motherfucker
Let me lock in for this play
But that boy like that for sure
Man, I gotta talk about your journey
Because you had one of the most unique journeys
To get to the NFL
Coming in as a seven-round pick
You said you didn't have a combine
Or you didn't go to the senior Pro Bowl
Like, how was that process for you coming out of Syracuse
and then getting to the league?
Man, it was just, you know, honestly, it's kind of one of them things.
You know, we didn't win a lot at Cuse.
So, like, you know, when you don't win, it's like at any level.
When you don't win, even if you're cooking,
you ain't going to get the love that you necessarily deserve.
So, it was kind of one of those things.
But, honestly, bro, it, just something I always just took it
on the chin.
Like every time that somebody, you know, hated on me,
they was doing all kinds of flaky stuff
during the draft process.
I mean, I just kind of took on the chain, like,
oh, I'm just going to add to the fire.
So, and honestly, in a weird way, like in a league,
like I would rather go undrafted and like be drafted
in like the six or seven rounds, like at a certain point.
Cause like once you undrafted,
you at least get to pick your shot.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like when you get drafted, you know, you stuck.
Like regardless, even though I'd probably end up
coming to Indy anyway, but.
Damn.
And that's what we used to talk about all the time
before they kind of like start pretty much hoeing
all the undrafted with the second round picks.
It's like, would you rather go second round the league,
get your check quick, you know what I'm saying?
Or would you rather be late first round
and kind of Denmark thug it out, even though it's guaranteed.
That NFL grind is totally different because you got so many people
competing for spots, and them GMs don't really be giving a fuck.
They'll be like, oh, he hurt?
Cool, next man up.
Like, damn, bro, like, I was just nice.
Like, in training camp, how do you compete with that?
Like, everybody's gunning from the same couple positions,
and you play a premier position in the NFL.
Well, I ain't going to hold you.
Since I'm here, I'm going to just get that out of my chest. I be hating on y'all NBA niggas. Straight up. Let me just get that position in the NFL. Well, I ain't going to hold you. Since I'm here, I'm going to just get this off my chest.
I be hating on y'all NBA niggas.
Straight up.
Let me just get that off the chest.
I'm going to start right there.
Yeah.
First of all, y'all boys get to play all overseas.
Like, I ain't going to hold you.
I told myself I was never going to play in Canada.
I told myself straight up.
The CFL, if that was what had to go, I wasn't going to play.
You was nothing on the XFL?
Yeah, I'm not going to play in Japan.
Y'all boys got the Taiwan. Y'all making all kind of money out there.
Y'all got y'all face on the billboards.
Y'all got the new sneaks out there.
You know what I'm saying?
We go out there.
We in Serbia.
It's cold.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't even know what's going on.
We in, no, always the NBA boys.
Y'all situation different.
And y'all got the G League, too.
So even if you ain't start, you still out Vegas tagging something, living.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all don't still live.
Out the gate.
That's a fact.
Nah, I noticed that with football players because, like,
when we used to go to the club, they go crazy.
Like, nah, they spend, bro.
Like, basketball dudes might spend a couple thousand.
Football, they going 20,000.
I'm like, damn, why they going so hard?
Them niggas got them helmets on.
Yeah, they like, they gonna know who we are.
That nigga Zaire probably walked in with a chain that said
Zaire on that nigga.
Right there, right on the big screen,
though, right there, though.
I used to be like, man, they going so hard.
Hey, they get the size of the club, I'm in the league.
Boy, that's
Zaire and Neil.
Yeah.
We do that when the motherf the bottles i'm saying though
y'all boys been famous as a you that's the fact you know what i'm saying y'all been playing for
this team and that team and highlight been one mil since you was in 12th grade nah y'all got it rough
but nah for real all right that was enough that was enough i ain't gonna let you do that though
you ain't gonna do that nah for real though it's kind of up like if you ain't a star star
in the nfl it's like yeah don't really know you get them to us, though. You ain't going to do that to us. No, for real, though. It's kind of fucked up. Like, if you ain't a star star in the NFL, it's like.
Yeah.
Motherfucker don't really know you.
You can damn to be the 12th man on the bench in the NBA,
and motherfuckers will know who you are.
Like, if you ain't a star star in the NFL, it's like.
Right.
So they got.
Y'all just big in the motherfucking.
Like, that's a big ass.
Right.
So they got AAU.
What do y'all got?
Is it Nike camp?
And I know Cam Newton highlighting his kids with his 7-on-7 shit.
Like, what.
Oh, that 7-on-7. Or y y'all on, like we got ballers like,
all that shit that we can watch on YouTube
to check out the young and up and coming,
you know what I mean, stars.
What do y'all got?
That's a fact.
Honestly, it's crazy,
because like 707 really becoming like the new AAU,
like from football wise.
Like it's just the way it's growing,
the way it's expanding uh even like
my og you know shout out the philly finest out in philly uh you mean they like the top school
top uh organization on the whole east coast you know they playing florida they playing in kentucky
they playing and you know i'm saying and it's just they got tournaments all over it's crazy
because like even now you got teams putting they they high school teams in these big tournaments
they getting a look so that's how a lot of dudes getting the offers and all that too so um it's crazy how that just take
off oh yeah the camp team like that too i think they played i think we won though yeah talk your
shit you what 26 27. i'm 26 i didn't play i only played i'm a cap i only played two times
but i had offers so it didn't really matter but i mean you know what i matter. But I mean, you gotta get out there on that circuit
sometimes, you gotta get on that grind.
Why you pick Syracuse?
Man, I mean the easy, honestly it was close to home.
For real, it was close enough to like,
it's three and a half from Philly,
so it's close enough to where my mama and my grandma,
my auntie, they wasn't just gonna pull up
whenever they wanted to,
because my auntie and them was crazy. They'd really just slide if i was in my temple or something but like
if something was going on i could slide home you feel me like something happened so i needed to be
somewhere far but like i wasn't really trying i had all from arizona damn that should have went
on that visit i was tweaking they was mad as hell i committed yeah i definitely would have went out
there should have went to my visit to Arizona State. Yeah, I'm about to say, damn, bro, you went to Syracuse.
That motherfucker, the snow, all that.
You were trying to get away from that weather.
You love your family more than me.
I'm surprised you ain't trying to go down south, though.
I'm not made for the south, though.
I ain't going to care.
I talk back to the folks too much, bro.
East Coast is different. Yeah, he is East Coast.
Yeah, East Coast is different than South shit.
But everybody from the East Coast, like all the people in Atlanta,
they from New York or Philly.
Yeah.
Yeah, they do talk crazy, though.
Yeah.
Q's was ACC or Big East when you was there?
They had just went to ACC my first year.
So you seen all the – you played.
Yeah, my division was – my freshman year was Jamison, then Lamar,
then D-Watt was in that joint, too.
NC State had a bunch of them boys, too.
Did y'all play Wake?
Yeah, we played Wake.
Yeah, we played every.
Wake was like, I ain't going to hold you.
We'll play Clemson.
We beat Clemson, though, so hold on.
So put some respect on that.
We spanked Clemson, them boys.
So let's put that on my side.
D-Watt was there?
Huh?
Deshaun Watson was there?
Nah, nah, nah.
How about it?
It had to be that transition period. They went to the chip. It had to be that transition period. That's hate. That's hate. That my side. D.Y. was there? Huh? Deshaun Watson was there? No, no, no. How about that? It had to be that transition period.
They went to the chip.
It had to be that transition period.
That's hate.
That's hate right there.
Look, look.
That strike, too.
He chimed with the index.
No, no.
It had to be that transition period.
Battle Wars and shit.
That's crazy.
But, no.
We beat Clemson, but what I'm about to say.
No, it was all goons and goblins down there.
But wait, was like the team we like we probably lose the Clemson and Florida
State, but we play wait, we oh, yeah, it's us and Christmas.
And we went back and forth against them.
Yeah, I can see that being a good match.
I got to be workforce.
They they got better though this year.
They got 25 this year.
I got a question for you.
I'm a little bit biased in this question, but
who you think was better in college between Jameis and Lamar?
Jameis and Lamar?
Jameis tough.
Jameis team so stacked, bro.
They had 22 guys drafted, bro.
That's OD.
I ain't even going to hold you.
Their defense was crazy.
They had Dalvin Cook and they had Kelvin Benjamin.
That's cheating.
Their whole line was crazy.
So, like, the 22 guys that they had that started for that national That's cheating. They, whole line was crazy. 22 games in the same year?
So,
like,
the 22 guys that they had that started for that
National Championship game,
all 22 of them got drafted.
Oh,
okay.
I was about to say,
now the draft is out.
Nah,
but it be like that,
though.
It be like that.
You see Georgia
putting all them boys out.
True,
true.
That's crazy.
Teams,
it same way,
like,
you be like,
12th man,
everybody know you.
Teams will go to Georgia.
Y'all was undefeated.
Y'all defense was crazy.
We just gonna take y'all fifth linebacker. Come here, sixth round. We got you. They just will go to Georgia. Y'all was undefeated. Y'all defense was crazy. We just going to take y'all fifth linebacker.
Come here, sixth round.
We got you.
They just all go to the fucking Eagles.
Yeah, but to answer your question, I'm going to go Lamar.
Lamar was something crazy in college.
I didn't even catch him.
He really was.
He was OD, bro.
His stats was crazy in college.
And, bro, I was a Louisville favorite.
I still am.
But I watched that, and I said, this man was literally running for his life every single
play, and he really was going crazy against the nation.
Imagine if he would have went to a real football school.
Now, Louisville team was tough that one year when they lost to D.Y. at night.
They was tough.
They could have actually won.
I think that was his first high in the year.
They was nice, but it was just like they just never won.
Like, they won some big games, but they never won, like, the game.
Because you know how in college football, it's different.
Like, if you lose one or two games, it's over with.
So it's like, they'll beat like Florida State
and then lose the Clemson.
If you lose the Clemson, you ain't gonna win the chip.
And then it's all over with.
Yeah, cause you lost out of your division.
So now you ain't getting in that ACC championship game.
And now it don't matter.
Now you in a dollar general ball
and you won 12 games anyway.
Exactly. But college, like I ain't gonna lie.
College basketball is trash.
I don't like college basketball.
Oh, it's way better than college football though, bro.
How you figure that?
Nah, I hate college.
Cause they at least got martial arts.
Yeah.
That's it?
We don't know what, like, I ain't gonna hold you bro.
Niggas wasn't checking for like too many football games
after a certain amount.
Oh, you sleep.
A lot of people take it.
That's real shit to be honest.
Throughout the year though?
Throughout the year?
College football is not as big as
College basketball
That's cap bro
Popularity
Absolutely
Nah
The whole season
For college basketball
Does not matter until March
You don't think that's crazy
Nah but it get crazy
In March bro
It do get crazy
But
Playing games
You not supposed to play
Y'all be undefeated
Y'all number one
In the country
What Purdue
Number one country
Oh yeah
Win the Big Ten tournament.
Big Ten tournament.
Then get your ass spanked by St. Mary Vincent somewhere.
And now.
Yeah.
You never supposed to play them, though.
You know Purdue ass.
You don't know his name from Purdue?
Nah.
Oh, yeah.
He love Purdue.
Nah.
Nah.
I hate them niggas.
Yeah, yeah.
But hold on, hold on.
His team was the same way.
They got Dustin.
That white team.
Yeah, yeah.
Who kind of nigga is you? Oh, that's crazy. Who kind of nigga is you? That way. They got Dustin. That Wake team, what kind of nigga is you?
Oh, that's crazy.
What kind of nigga is you?
That's crazy.
You see what I'm saying?
What kind of nigga is you?
Shout out to North Coast.
But I'm saying that part to me.
Oh, no, that's crazy.
We lost to the first round, too.
We lost to Cleveland State.
Damn, not Cleveland State, dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, that's what I'm – but you're not even supposed to play.
I would have been cool to lose to Syracuse, not Cleveland State.
Right, right, right.
Syracuse quality.
The excitement.
So I get what he's saying.
We don't really look forward to – it's maybe two or three bowl games
that we look forward to in college football.
And to me, you damn near got to be a fan.
Everybody and their mama tap into March Madness.
That's fair.
One thing I will say about that, too,
is the college basketball rivalry is different in football
because football, if y'all both good, is different.
College basketball, IU
and Purdue can be ass, but when they play
them two games, oh, it don't fucking matter. You don't think
them niggas undefeated. They be at
Assembly Hall going crazy. Same though with
Michigan-Ohio State play. They could be having a
down year. They rarely have down years, but if they both
have a down year, it's still going to be crazy.
Yeah, that rivalry shit here different.
Who was your rival? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Who was our rival? Wait for it. He was on A.A. Are you's still going to be crazy. Yeah. That Robby shit hit different. Who was your Robby? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
Who was our Robby?
Wait for it.
He was on A.A.
Are you serious?
In BC, he was on A.A.
And y'all talking about college football.
Fuck out of here.
Niggas don't even know that record.
Niggas don't even know that's a real thing.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
We not finna do that to Syracuse, though.
We ain't finna do that to Syracuse in here, though.
That's not how that's going to work.
Hey, shout out to Tim Bayhom.
That's like when the Clippers was like,
yeah, we rival with the Warriors, fuck outta here.
Nah, we ain't the Clippers though.
We respectable, don't do that, that's crazy.
Said we number 63rd.
You don't know nothing about that B.
You're all LB.
That's a if you know, you know type of thing.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't do it for us.
Don't do it for us like that, though.
That's crazy.
Free the wave.
Free the wave.
So, you know what I'm saying?
I got to ask, man, what was your first thoughts coming to NAP?
Like, have you been here before?
Before you pulled up, what was your reaction when you first pulled up in the city,
you know what I'm saying, got on the soil? Keep it clean. Keep it clean. coming to NAP. Like, have you been here before? Before you pulled up, what was your reaction when you first pulled up in the city, you
know what I'm saying, got on the soil?
Keep it clean.
Keep it clean.
Bro, I first pulled up.
First of all, I didn't know where Indiana was.
Ah, damn.
Respectfully, I'm not.
I understand.
But I ain't good at geography.
But when I pulled up, it was just, you know, I'm from a big city.
Like, I'm obviously, I went to a college town.
I'm from Philly.
Nah, finish your shit.
Finish your shit.
I'm from a big city, and it's just slow.
I'm from, like, one of the biggest cities cities, so it's just slower here, though.
You seen the cornfields?
Yeah, yeah, the cornfields.
I ain't going to hold you, though.
The only thing about any that get under my skin is everything,
every one of y'all stores is in a strip mall shopping center.
Y'all don't got no stores on the street.
Nah.
Pull up.
Oh, yeah.
I don't like stores on the street. This ain't Grand Theft Auto.
Yeah.
Grand Theft Auto?
You got that Grand Theft Auto and stores on the street?
Motherfucker Philly set up.
Boys in the hood.
Nah, Philly really is Grand Theft Auto. No cap.
Nah, it ain't cool.
Nah, I rock with the nap, man. I'm trying to get good with them.
You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to tap in.
You feel me? They put you on the Boosie, I heard.
Them boys in the locker room put me on the Boosie.
Nah, they love Boosie.
I just ain't never been nowhere where they play Boosie in the club.
But they got a Boosie set every night in the club.
He's on a really napkin.
I ain't know that.
Outside of Philly, though, when y'all go to the club,
who's they playing in the club?
Who they rocking?
I mean, the guys, I mean, club, who's they playing in the club? Who they rocking?
I mean, the guys, I mean obviously Baby,
you know what I mean?
You know the guys.
Hey man, don't fall for this shit, man.
What the hell bullshit?
Well he trying to line me up, man.
He trying to line me up.
He trying to bait you.
He trying to line me up.
Where you trying to line me up?
No, I'm not, I'm trying to ask because,
he's like, I'm on your team, brother.
I mean, they playing Drizzy, they playing the guy.
Black man, I'm on your side. I. I mean, they playing Drizzy. They playing the guys. Black man, I'm on your side.
I appreciate that.
Who do they play in the club?
We try to lobby see this shit, but.
Baby, me.
I mean, they was playing one out, Gunna.
I don't know.
You feel me?
That's a little situation.
Yeah.
It's been a while.
Future, obviously.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know the guys.
Okay, when did.
You ever heard Nas?
In the club?
No, we not playing Nas.
Okay, we can go up to the. All right. I just want. You got Nas, guy? In the club? No, we not playing Nas in the club.
We can go up to the, all right.
I just wanted to.
You a Nas guy?
See, man, he's trying to lie on me.
I ain't doing this today, man.
No, we just wanna talk about, but what's your,
you don't have a beef with Boosie,
but that wasn't really a thing in Philly?
No, it ain't a beef.
I don't wanna talk about it.
That's why I said there ain't no beef.
It was just more so like,
you ain't never exposed to it,
so I came out here, like my teammates, shout out to D-Lennon. He like my teammates shout out to d lennon he loved it he loved busi so like when i
first pulled up we got drafted together they played that set it off at first i was just like
jumping around like that now i ain't gonna hold you play that in the locker i'm ready to go run
through some so oh that's an ego spiritual out here yeah no no but i but now now now you
know i'm saying i'm a part of the gospel you feel me? So it took me a little minute.
Yeah, for sure, but no, he got,
Boosie definitely got some slacks, you know what I'm saying?
Mind of the Maniac, that's all, he got hits.
I got a few of them, but just coming out,
I had never really, they don't play that out of Philly,
so I just, you know what I'm saying,
never listened to dogfights.
So when you was in Q's, though,
what was you listening to to get it going?
When I went to Q's,
that's when they put me on all the Atlanta dudes,
so that's when I found out about the,
because again, I'm with a bunch of Atlanta dudes do so they put me on the Amigo all of
them because we had a bunch of concerts too like kids we probably had pretty much everybody out
there you know like Travis Scott all kind of people damn I would never think that about Syracuse
though you gotta think football football they trying to get football players they all recruit
from Denver to South on then they go to the Midwest and East Coast I mean they had like
concerts no we had we had we had all I saw the Migos in my rookie year,
we had a party next door, all kinds of shit.
Sizzle, everybody pull up.
Like we didn't play that.
You ain't getting no concerts.
Nah, you ain't getting that.
Nah.
Nah, you ain't slapping like that.
Nah.
I never heard of no college half concerts like we did.
I ain't gonna cap, that shit was OD.
Okay.
And what's crazy for you is, you was in Atlanta
when that shit was really cracking though.
Mm-hmm.
I seen the Migos like, I remember when they first dropped, I was in the club.
And there's this dude named Migo Gandalf.
That's a nasty name.
He's one of their homeboys.
And he was, like, trying to tell me that they was going to be the next thing out.
I wasn't going.
I'm like, man, this shit is weak.
You know, I'm like, nah.
I'm like, nah.
This ain't it, bro. Put J. Cole on. They're like, nah, you got to hear. And they was like, man, this shit weak. You know, I like Nas. I'm like, nah. This ain't it, bro.
Put J. Cole on.
They like, nah, you got here.
And they was like, that shit.
I'm like, nah, man.
I heard that Versace with Drake.
Woo.
I was gone.
That beat so retarded.
What?
Man, they played it like 25 times straight in the club.
Girls was going crazy.
You asked for J. Cole to get put on in the club?
Man, listen here, man.
I'm just trying to catch your vibe. the club? Man, listen here, man.
I'm just trying to catch your vibe. I like rap, bro.
I like rap.
That's fair.
So you like Benny the Butcher?
Kobe.
Yeah, Kobe.
Yeah, I feel a little Muggers attitude.
Muggers attitude.
But I like Future too.
Like.
You a Future fan?
Of course.
He look, see look here.
Of course, he a top one.
He a top one.
He a top one.
He a top one.
He a top one.
He a top one.
He a top one.
He told me Future was better than Jay-Z.
Stop telling people that.
No lies, bro.
The impact.
Listen, I never said the impact.
What did you say?
Z.
Listen.
I'm Z.
I'm gang now.
I'm gang.
I'm gang.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That's a nasty game to be a part of.
You know how a nigga go to Rucker, and when they get the name, they're part of the family.
Yeah. So, look, man're part of the family. Yeah.
So, look, man, this is all I was saying.
Jay-Z is not impactful no more, bro.
He's not.
The old heads is listening to Jay-Z when he drops just because.
The young niggas, they not really tapped in.
Future is all over.
Because, listen, bro, future is all over the internet.
With the hoes, these young niggas can relate because they fried.
I'm spiritually.
His last name is Hendrix.
That's my last name.
So, you know what I mean?
We're one and the same.
But what I'm saying is, music-wise and influence, he's bigger right now than Hov, bro.
Hov is 60.
Hov not active.
Let's start there. Hov not active. Let's start there.
Hov not active.
But whenever he do drop, everybody listen, though.
Not everybody.
Everybody our age.
Zaire, you barely make the cut.
That's fair.
You got an old soul.
I do.
I do.
All right.
I just met you.
This nigga 26.
Ain't too many 26-year-olds bumping that.
God, dude, everybody play God.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like I hear what you're saying, but I feel like it's different.
You can't compare Hov not even competing with the rest of them.
Hov not even competing with Future.
He's like two, three generations ahead of them.
He ain't even competing with Nas either.
I'm a Jay-Z fan.
I'm just telling you, like, niggas ain't really trying to dress like ho or be like ho.
So who are the greatest rappers to you?
Oh, I'm biased.
I'm just asking.
Who?
Future.
You said Future's the best rapper ever?
Yeah, Future.
He's just a filthy nigga.
But if you go off numbers, if you go off numbers.
Listen, listen, listen.
I was on the wrong team.
Yeah, you are.
I told you.
I told you.
Well, you can go back to Zaire.
No, what I'm saying is, though, if you go by numbers, fuck it.
Give me Drake.
Okay.
I don't do that numbers shit, bro.
I go in.
Me either.
Carmelo Anthony was my favorite basketball player.
That's respect, Syracuse.
Shout out to Melo.
You know what I'm saying?
See, you back to Z.
Yeah.
I'm up with Melo, though. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. He not better than Bron. I'm not a, exactly. You didn't even have to say that, though. That's respect Syracuse
That's a great question you think better brown and Mike I'm definitely going Brian I mean just just off the screen I respect it. I's all right, too. It ain't bad. It ain't a bad show. It's corny at first. Then you kind of get into it.
I think these niggas going to win or what.
Damn.
Yeah, I watched it, too.
I want the Brian documentary when they start snitching.
That's what I want.
I want to hear the bullshit.
He's always fit.
When he done, I want to hear the bullshit come out.
The expose?
Yeah, I need to hear it.
I need to hear it, bro.
The Miami exploits?
Yeah, bro.
Nah, that's nasty.
Keep them in the rap.
Yeah, please, dude.
Nah, Brian the only good one, bro.
We can't throw him away, man. We need him clean like Martin Luther. Nah. No, he wouldn't be clean. Keep them in the rap. Yeah, please, dude. Nah, we – Bron are only good one, bro. We can't throw him away, man.
We need him clean like Martin Luther.
Nah.
He wasn't clean.
He wasn't clean either.
RP.
That piece of shit.
Oh, that's crazy.
Respect our leader.
That's crazy.
Not Martin, bro.
Not Martin.
Hey, have y'all seen the AI pic of Martin Luther King with the tats?
Hey, that's fire.
That's me with my album cover.
Martin was hitting hoes in Philly, bro, back in the day.
No, not Martin, bro.
Not Martin.
We ain't doing that.
Not Martin. Y'all got all them motherfucking Chinese schools.
You ain't watch that VHS movie when you was in elementary, huh,
when they rolled it in?
My friend Martin.
One of the weakest movies ever.
Oh, you would hate him, too.
That's crazy.
That was a classic.
That's a classic.
Give me Magic School Bus.
Magic School Bus.
School was a little different.
When you was in school, y'all probably had iPads and shit already.
Oh, come on.
We didn't grow up on that.
They walk the TV in on us
with the big back.
Ooh, the BBL TV.
Yeah, so
that motherfucker was wrong.
Our school books were different than yours.
Well, he was IPS. They didn't have school books.
Me too. I was lying to him.
I watched it until 6th grade.
Once that Nate came out and really told Martin's story, I was like, yeah, he's a piece of shit. One on nine. Once that name came out, I really told Morris,
I was like, yeah, he's a piece of shit.
One of the weakest leaders of all time, bro.
That's crazy, bro.
When we get the Chris Bosh ice on camera about LeBron in Miami,
that's going to be the best shit.
They're going to snitch on LeBron at some point, bro.
It's coming soon, bro.
But you was probably one of the most important draft class
in the Colts' recent history for sure.
Y'all had them hitters.
You had a great offensive line, great defense.
Now, we're going to skip past a little bit of rookie year.
You told us about how you came in, you know what I'm saying, first start against Tom, which is crazy.
That next summer, boy, you was a part of city history.
How was that training camp, like with that information going on, with Andrew Luck, like, how was that, like, for your second year in the league?
Did that throw you for a curveball?
Or was the team already kind of prepared for that shit?
Bro, we had no idea.
That's crazy.
I mean, the whole training camp, you know,
we were just assuming he was going to come back.
It was just – but, like I said, he's so cold that it's like –
he, like, one time he just jumped in a walkthrough.
Offense just – they just shot out immediately.
You are, you mean, he him.
It really don't even matter, same offense, whatever.
And then, you know, just preseason game,
I'm on the sideline and you just hear the fans going.
I feel like it's actually kind of salty.
I think I might be in the video just cause I'm just young.
You know, you a young boy in the league,
you don't know what's going on.
I just see the cameras.
I'm, oh, I'm in the back.
That's the camera.
I'm in the way and shit.
I'm like, I'm tripping.
But, I mean, that was just a crazy-ass moment.
That was one of the times I'm just sitting around like, damn, bro.
I'm like, I'm a part of history.
That's OD.
Shout out to Luck.
That's my guy for sure.
But definitely a crazy situation.
The whole city was just like, what the fuck? I remember
we was headed, he had a barbecue that night. I was
headed to your crib and I was watching a preseason game
and Adam Schefter hit the report and
I seen Luck walk off the field and start booing. I said,
damn. Oh yeah, that was that night.
Yeah, you had a party that night. We all slid to your crib.
I was like, damn, Luck really out here.
I was like, I wonder who knew because I was like, I don't know
because I work in the media too. So I'll be
the leak shit don't ever really be leak shit. You be knowing people be kind, filtering for their own stuff. But I always like, I don't know. Because I work in the media, too. So I'll be the leaked shit don't ever really be leaked shit.
You be knowing people be kind of filtered for their own stuff.
But I always wondered, did y'all lock room?
Because how did y'all feel about that?
Because I went from like, oh, damn, we up this year to, oh, shit, we got to figure this shit out.
Yeah.
I mean, you know how it go.
You just, nah, bro, we about to lock in.
We got all we need.
You know what I mean?
It's one of them type of Jones.
But at the same time, it's just like, damn, you just lost like a generational talent just like that.
You feel me?
That's tough.
It was definitely crazy.
I mean, we ended up thugging that year a little bit.
You know, we – injuries kind of fell off.
But, I mean, no, it was definitely crazy.
I mean, but like, again, I was nobody.
I had no clue.
I was a second-year boy.
I was really just focused on trying to make the team at that point.
You know what I'm saying?
That's real.
So I wasn't privy to none of that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So I found out same time as everybody else.
Damn.
And that's interesting because he always talk about him
grinding to get to that second signature.
How was it for you?
You know what I'm saying?
You come in there, seventh round pick,
you had to grind that shit out.
No question.
That's probably a lot of –
and that's why I think one of the most underrated things
about professional athletes is like, yeah, you see their salary,
but you don't know what niggas got to do to get to that next
paycheck. Like, you had to grind
that shit, especially in football, you know what I'm saying?
Hard on, y'all playing, hitting.
You got to grind that shit out physically and mentally.
I know, like you said, for you, like, it was crazy
and you was in a situation where they wanted you to have it.
How was that for you? You had to grind that shit
to get to that next contract.
Man, you just got to win
the game on different fronts. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, just got to win the game on different fronts.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, you got to be the best on the field.
You got to carry it the best,
you know, be a good leader and all that.
But at the same time, I feel like
you just got to keep grinding, bro.
And honestly, I feel like even,
I be telling the young boys even now, though,
like, first of all, I be trying to let them know,
like, yeah, I get it.
Like, the Colts love me.
San Conj, WooDee Woo, starting captain, all that stuff.
I'm like, bro, it wasn't always like that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I was just telling one of my young boys today, I'm like,
man, they ain't put me in a team photo shoot
till my third year.
Like.
What?
I'm saying like everybody, I'm pulling up.
Everybody got their jerseys on,
everybody got their sleeves on.
They damn Z, you ain't got no,
no, I ain't even got no time.
I'm going on year three.
I was a captain on the team before I even had a photo shoot.
Bro, that's crazy.
But that's just what it was.
But it's just like, bro, you just gotta to take all that shit in stride, man.
You just really just got to.
Honestly, I just took it personal.
I just always felt like, shit, if they feel like I'm not this player that I feel like I am,
obviously I ain't proving it enough.
So I just took that mentality.
Like, if they not going to play me, I'm not snapping hard enough.
So I just got to keep going.
And I just be trying to tell my young boys that, too.
Like, bro, you got to keep putting that in.
And then either they going to support you or guess what?
Somebody else will too.
Damn.
That's crazy.
Nigga didn't take a team picture.
You was damn near a choir boy from the 500.
You damn right.
I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm one of the extras and I ain't even got my name on the movie.
And that's how the pocket could.
Because you want a team fighter.
Yeah.
That's crazy too.
That's a lot of niggas to get in one picture though. Hey, see, sit this one down. How many players on the team? Like 50 something? 53. Yeah. That's crazy as hell. That's a lot of niggas to get in one picture though.
Hey Z, sit this one down.
How many players in the team?
Like 50 something?
53.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, better than the 12.
That's a lot of niggas.
I was wondering like, man,
y'all don't be having guaranteed contracts
in certain situations.
Ain't no way in hell I could play like that.
Did y'all ever have the uh?
That's the ghetto for y'all.
That's the ghetto for y'all.
That's respect.
I'm like, damn, y'all still go out there
and risk y'all life, like play hard every day.
And you don't even know if it's guaranteed.
When they motherfuckers told me your shit might not be not guaranteed.
I left.
I was like, yeah, I'm going here.
You were in a COVID year.
I retired and they was like, everybody was calling me like,
yeah, you should come back and play one more year. We just need you.
And I'm like, yeah, you're going to guarantee me.
It was like we do partial.
I was like, yeah, I'm cool.
I'm okay. Tell me, y'all going to guarantee me. They was like, we can do partial. I was like, yeah, I'm cool. Damn. Oh, my foot can't tell me to go home.
I'll be shitty as hell.
What?
Yeah, we don't need you no more.
The NFL is crazy, though, because it be like,
niggas got to get, like, a certain amount of receptions.
Yeah, them incentives.
You might get some tackles.
Is that a part of your deal?
Nah, mine's not necessarily.
But this deal I signed was a little bit just not for my role now
though honestly um but for i mean it is crazy though i again i've been told i'll be hating on
nba players first of all happy some of these don't play it's like 10 in nba that just haven't
played in like two years shout out to zion i'll be likeiggas don't play. Still getting the big check. Big runs. Zion living.
Fuck what y'all talking about.
Zion living.
I love work-life balance.
Shout out to Zion.
He living.
Get out of your living place.
Zion, Kyrie, real niggas.
Get paid.
Don't go to work.
That's a nasty shout out.
So they know.
Did y'all see the clip where dude was like,
they was talking about he was a freak athlete.
Out the gate.
They said that was the most accurate description I ever heard in my life.
I was sick.
So ain't nobody on the coach just chilling getting a bag?
Hell no.
No, this is the NFL, bro.
It's crazy, bro.
It's 53 people, bro.
Let you act like you ain't finna.
What?
No, hell no.
Right about it.
No, they just cut Dalvin Cook.
Yeah, how'd that work?
They didn't cut him. I hate the way that people say he wanted Cook. Yeah, how'd that work? They didn't cut him.
I hate the way that people say he wanted to be released.
How'd that work, though?
When you a good player, I be seeing like cold players,
they be like, oh, he got released.
I'm like, why'd they do that?
Well, it'd be, honestly, it's funny how they word it and stuff like that happen.
It'd just be the media playing tricks.
But, like, they got contracts.
They got guarantees in their contracts.
So, you cut them at a certain point.
I don't want to speak on everybody's situation, but some people might have in got contract, they got guarantees in their contracts. So you cut them at a certain point. Like for, I don't wanna speak on everybody's situation, but some people might have in a contract
or they getting guaranteed this,
if they get cut this, they gonna get nine million.
So you cut them, they still getting that nine M's.
They really double dipping.
Like you get what I'm saying for the next joint.
So.
That happened to me.
Yeah, so.
Milwaukee.
Milwaukee went to Orlando.
You got Orlando jersey?
No.
You need to take Orlando jersey. I didn't even go, I didn't even go. You need a T-Garlando jersey.
I didn't even go.
I didn't even go.
They told me just don't even come.
They told you don't come?
Yeah, because I had left Boston and I got traded to Orlando.
And they was like, you don't want to be here.
You want to try to win something, right?
And I'm like, yeah.
The team told you that?
Yeah.
That's nasty.
I knew them, though.
They like, we playing all.
We sad.
We ain't going to win nothing.
We going to wave you so you can double dip.
We going to pay you.
But you going to gonna sign another team.
Let's see how they do.
The NBA is way more transparent than y'all.
But it's like the NBA, I feel like they want
their players to get paid.
I feel like the Grizzlies are mad that
there's like Ja fucking it up.
They mad like, damn, we wanna give you 200, you tripping.
Bro, you be all pro and that be,
I don't know if you deserve this 15.
You be like, damn, I'm putting it all in for you.
Show love.
All pro, pro bowl, fake cover, man.
Like, damn.
But in the NBA, they just can't wait to give y'all 150.
I don't care.
Nah, if you kill them in the NBA, they gonna pay you.
For sure, they love that.
So that's basically like getting a buyout,
like getting bought out, basically.
That makes sense.
Dalvin gonna be, though, bro.
I mean, he wants that bread, though,
and they kind of doing the running backs nasty right now.
They don't respect the running backs at all.
Yeah, they violating real big time right now.
Outside of the quarterbacks, who get the most love in the NFL?
Pass rushers.
The ends.
The ends.
Hell yeah.
Because it's all about the quarterbacks.
So you got the quarterback, then who going to affect the quarterback?
The ends.
Then who going to protect the quarterback? The ends, then who going to protect the quarterback?
The left tackle.
You going to pull a Michael Parsons to go down to the line?
Hell no.
He's nothing on the trenches.
I'm not going down that, boy.
Look, Defoe, Grove, shout out to the guys.
Y'all got it.
Y'all know you're my boys.
Whatever y'all need.
I got y'all, boy, but no way.
I think they're one of the most underrated athletes in, like, sport.
Because they big as hell.
Hell yeah.
And be moving.
Defoe, 6'7". Moving like, bro, that like bro that's six seven like 300 that's crazy bro that's nice we're at a
four seven four bro and we're really walking and being and all that and i'm like yeah y'all boys
are different damn that's crazy before we get to some other stuff man i want to talk about what
you do off the field man you got a wonderful foundation man please tell us about that also us about that. Also, if you haven't seen, shout out to my boy JB.
Wonderful expose with my guy right here.
That's my dog.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, that's my dog.
Shout out to JB.
We like that.
But, yeah, tell people what you got going on, man.
Oh, yeah.
No, I got my nonprofit named after my late mother, Felicia's Angels.
You know, just helping out young kids, specifically young women in Philly and Indy.
Got a couple things going.
We got a business academy coming up next week in Philly for, like, three schools.
Got a couple black-owned business owners from the city.
I'm going to have them pull up, talk to a couple of, like, the middle schoolers,
tell them about what it means to run a business.
Then we got, like, this business simulation that we took from the University of Michigan.
Nice.
We're going to, like, teach the young boys about, you know,
what it means to really run a business, like hire staff.
That would be crazy, though. I'm not going to lie. It would be really crazy because you're teaching kids, and I ain't going to teach the young boys about what it means to really run a business, like hire staff. That would be crazy, though.
I'm not going to lie.
It would be really crazy because you're teaching kids,
and I ain't going to hold you.
The middle school I went to was in the middle of the trenches,
like Kensington, Allegheny.
It'd be kids that's from the trenches.
Now they run in the store, and they'd be like,
I don't want to pay my servers this.
And I'd be like, damn.
They'd be managers, and they'd be like, no, I don't want to pay my staff this.
And you'd be like, it's different on us. When you're getting that check, you don't want to pay my staff this. And you be like, it's different on us.
When you getting that check, you don't want to pay.
But definitely be teaching the kids, you know what I'm saying,
the different business and stuff too.
So it's definitely, you know, good job.
Shout out to www.shalecesangels.org.
You know, shout out to them.
Check it out.
Yeah, I think that's fire, especially like, you know what I'm saying,
when you get to a point to where you can pour into it.
That's like the homie.
Like, he coaching.
Like, coaching in high school.
And that's fire.
That's fire. Still to this day, when I see people talk, I'm like, damn, that's fire. Like, really, homie, really coaching. Coaching in high school, and that's fire. That's fire.
It's still to this day, when I see people talk,
I'm like damn, that's fire.
Like really homie, really at Pike.
You at Pike?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, my first year coming up.
Uh oh.
Okay.
Get them boys right.
Suicide, day one, huh?
All the time, that's how we do it, bro.
Damn.
All the new head basketball coaches do, bro.
You gotta be in shape.
He's Stan Van Gundy.
Best player playing the whole game too, he ain You got to be in shape. He's Stan Van Gundy. That's how I ever do it.
Best player playing the whole game, too. He ain't coming out.
For sure. If you kill him,
he's staying in. I'm trying to win.
And if we up 20 and you got 35, I'll let you get 40.
I ain't taking you out.
So now I hate Coach Carter.
A whole lot of sisters.
Alright, man. So we got a lot
of wonderful topics to get into before we get out of here.
Speaking of podcasts, this is what we're on right now.
Your man, Marcus Jordan.
Is he out of pocket?
Nah, man.
Run it up.
Shit, y'all put his name all in the media.
He a chill nigga.
Y'all don't want to exploit me.
So shit.
For those who don't know, you know what I'm saying?
Larson Pippen and Marcus Jordan, they got a nice podcast coming out.
I want to hear that first episode.
I hope he on there snitching.
I hope he on there talking crazy.
Why you always want everybody to go feed?
I do.
We need it.
Because what y'all doing is already out of pocket.
Don't sit here and try to act like I'm about to play house with this shit.
I want to hear it.
I want to hear it all.
That's what we here for.
Oh, no.
You not tuning in?
You not fucking with it?
B.N., you fucking with it?
Oh, absolutely.
I just want to see the first episode drop,
and then I can speak more on it from there.
I am interested.
I'm not interested at all.
Hey, look, between them and Khalees.
What Khalees do?
Khalees and Bill Murray is the nastiest couple I've ever seen in my life.
Come on, Nas.
She let Nas down.
Nas let Nas down.
Nas let Nas down.
Yeah, Nas.
Nas fought with a bag, man.
Nah, he didn't. He fought with a bag, man. Nah, he didn't.
He fought with a bag.
He made ring, bro.
He made ring.
And he had Nikki after.
Oh, man.
Nah, nah.
I'm not talking about his paper.
Nas is very, very educated.
I'm just saying, bro.
How you lose your lady to Bill Murray?
He's 80, bro.
Bill Murray got that bag, though.
Respect it.
He got that chicken, though.
That's a fact.
Y'all.
Bigger chicken than Nas? Pause. Yeah, pause that, please. That is crazy. got that chicken though. That's a fact. Y'all, bigger chicken than ours?
Pause.
Yeah, pause that please.
That is crazy.
I was about to say yeah too.
So niggas call they shit chickens?
I don't know.
I don't know, but I just didn't like the word.
Yeah, that's crazy.
The live was just kind of like,
you was setting me up.
You been doing that lately bro.
Don't worry, I got you under this.
I'll let you slide with a pause when you talk. I know. You still like, hey, I'm on four I got you under this. I'll let you slide with a pause when you talk.
You said like, hey, y'all know four of them.
I'll let it slide.
And I was really saying that's crazy.
I was like, it's cool, bro.
Shout out to Khalees and Milkshake.
That's tough.
He's proud.
Man, get off this.
Hey, come on, music man.
Philly Anthem.
Oh, let's go.
Is it Meek or is it Uzi?
It's what we do.
State property.
Oh, facts.
Hey, he's a real nigga.
What?
Shout out to Freeway.
Oh, my God.
They two different vibes.
Like, you play Dreams and Nightmares, you going to jump up and down, get ready to turn up.
You know what I'm saying?
You got bottles to pour another shot.
Uzi play, all the kids start to dance.
That's TikTok.
It's like TikTok and Fortnite.
Now the song is hard, it's a movement,
but two different crowds, I mean,
they just being emotional.
Drama was reaching.
Drama just, I feel like just trying to sell a narrative
because that's his artist or whatever,
but I would never say like nobody in the city
gonna sit here and say, oh, then Uzizi got the new uzi just got the new wave so like but i guess
what meat didn't have the first wave because what we do was run in the streets for a long time and
that's still turning everybody over so it's like oh it's just you know i'm saying different eras
you just gotta respect your uh elder who's the best rapper in state property? Beanie. No question. Beans for sure.
And then Chris after that.
You got Chris over freeway?
I like Petey Crack,
respectfully though.
That's where I'm from.
I like Petey. I like Chris after that.
That's a good one.
Petey,
I fuck with Petey.
Petey gave all them niggas swag.
Yeah,
I feel like he was a,
Petey was the swag,
bro.
Nah,
Ho really took Chris swag.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
He did.
I knew he was about to do that.
He kind of was stealing his swag a little bit. That's not fair. How you figure that? If you go listen to Chris Swagg. Don't do that. Don't do that. He did, though. I knew you was about to do that. He kind of was stealing his swag a little bit, though.
That's not fair.
How you figure that?
If you go listen to Chris rapping, how he rapping,
some of the shit he say, ho, start saying it after that.
Yeah.
So I can say that Nas stole AZ flow?
That's a good one.
Don't disrespect Nas.
Hey, what are you talking about home now?
AZ is crazy.
I ain't saying he stole his flow.
I just said something with you.
Yeah.
So you really think Nas over home?
You think that? No, no, no, no. Jay-Z you. Yeah. So you really think Nas over who? You think that?
No, no, no, no.
Jay-Z, my favorite rapper.
You still listen to Nas, though?
Yeah.
Like, four or three?
Hard.
For real?
Yeah, you ain't like him?
No.
He's out of the pocket, bro.
Scared the hoes.
I thought he was rolling with me.
I was like, yeah.
Nah, not today, buddy.
Kenzie's run was hard, though.
But he didn't need to make no more at the first one.
Nah, bro.
All of them tough, bro.
You got to listen.
You got to tap in, bro.
They really liked it.
Yeah, play it in the club.
He like, what's the nigga you like, Joey Bell?
What you like?
Hey, nah, he disrespect my nigga Dom Kennedy.
Dom got one joint.
I like that when I come around.
That's my joint.
That joint always in my, that's always in the side.
There you go, man.
That's one joint for sure.
We in the club.
We in the club.
We got to play Dom or nah, so you pick. I'm definitely dropping a Dom for sure. We in the club. We got to play Dom or Nas.
Who you picking?
I'm definitely dropping a Dom for sure.
Out the game.
They're going to hear Nas and put their shows back on.
I'm playing Mims over Dom Kennedy.
You already told me.
For sure.
You said Mims?
He keeping Mims light on.
I'm going to let motherfuckers hear.
I'm going to let motherfuckers listen to Ether before.
Yeah, Ether way better than anything else.
I'm going to let motherfuckers listen to Ether.
I'm going to force you to listen to Ether in the club over any Dom.
See, that's y'all problem.
You play music in the club for the hoes.
None of the hoes want to hear Ether, bro.
They want to hear that Dom, cool, LA shit.
Nah, bro.
We don't want to hear that.
You're going to be in a section just fitted low.
All right, bro.
I'll call some ladies right now, and I swear to God,
they don't know who Dom Kennedy is.
Same with you.
But they know Ether, though?
Yeah.
Yes.
Y'all women rough. I'm going to say that. yeah y'all women rough
all y'all women know how to slapbox too
I'm glad he went to their own Saturday
you went ahead of time
to all stars
y'all got some rough looking motherfuckers
in Philly though too
y'all got some penitentiary
motherfuckers too
a lot of memes come from the Philly women
let me just ask you,
who do you think
I better win
in the Philly?
I know you probably
buy it.
Philly.
No.
I'm quick.
I was just asking.
You disrespect the queens
in the city?
No,
shout out to Philly.
I don't know.
Listen.
Listen.
Deep in the rat.
I told you queens
don't love y'all.
He ain't with y'all.
He's a liar. Listen, I got about 30 of my favorite don't love y'all. He ain't with y'all. He's a liar.
Listen, I got about 30 of my favorite Queens here.
Y'all know all I'm going to say y'all day.
30.
We talking about as a village?
Yeah.
As a collective.
East Coast.
As a conglomerate.
Drop Dreaming Nightmares now.
You crazy, bro.
Hey, you are, bro. Hey, you
are fried, man.
Speaking of back to sports, man,
y'all got a crazy season coming up
because we finally got a black quarterback in Indy.
Yes, sir. Thank God. Y'all know you
reached out. Don't do Brissette like that.
Yeah, don't do my man JB. Shout out to
JB. Don't do Brissette like that. But I understand what you're saying.
We drafted a black quarterback. There we go.
There we go. Respect to Brissette like that. But I understand what you're saying. We drafted a black quarterback in the first round. There we go.
Respect to Brissette.
Brisket, as they call him.
No disrespect.
That's my man, JB.
I can't let you do that to my man, JB.
My boy, what'd they call him?
Dink and Dash?
No, when y'all ain't doing it.
No way.
You call me Dink and Dash?
No.
Hey, yo.
I said Dink, nigga.
The iPhone typo just got crazy.
They say just throw 15 yards.
With respect to Kobe, I'm happy we got AR5, man, in the city.
We got the rebound.
We got Leah Boston defeated.
We got a black quarterback drafted finally by the Colts.
Shout out to Earthstate.
I'm geek, man.
I ain't even a Colts fan, but I'm excited for the city for this right now.
I'm a Colts fan.
I know you are.
You say you're not a Colts fan.
Who your squad?
It's not that I ever would have guessed the Colts. I know you are. You say you're not a coach fan. Who your squad? It's not that I ever would have guessed the coach.
That cat-ass tattoo.
He got that joint.
Junior, yeah, and Pike, huh?
It's all right.
You still named him.
You know what I mean?
It's on your body.
That nigga mama made him get that tattoo.
That nigga here crazy, man.
Respect Mama T.
You know what I mean?
Shout out to Miss Crew.
I'm hooked with Dwight Freeney and them, man.
Damn.
Shout out to the girls. That nigga came named seven coach work with Dwight Freeney and them, man. Damn. Shout out to the guys.
That nigga came in seven Coast players.
Dwight Freeney.
He got a horseshoe on his arm.
Payment.
Defund Jeff Saturday.
Defund Jeff Saturday.
I'm sorry.
Did you see?
He did a terrible tank job.
I'm sorry.
Continue.
Zaire Franklin.
Don't go crazy.
You're cheating.
Don't go crazy.
Shut up.
Shut up, Zaire Franklin. That's crazy. That's crazy.'t go crazy. You cheating. Don't go crazy. Shut up. Shut up.
This is all your
frankness.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Reggie Wade,
Marvin Hanson.
Oh, no, man.
Reggie Wade,
I told y'all,
that 10 is cat.
No way.
But, no,
I grew up a Cowboys fan
until we tried to,
my nigga,
Mark Cooper,
man,
it's been,
I've been a step back,
but I got love for the Colts. Hey, anytime the Colts
is good, it's do good for the city. Anytime y'all in the playoffs
there's more shit to do. My friends is happy.
They barbecue. When y'all not good, my niggas
be sad on Sundays. Mondays is all bad.
They don't want to answer their phone.
I'm just getting, we got something. I feel like we're going to have
a super exciting product.
Not that y'all are bad, but
the quarterback position has been
an issue for the last couple years.
Now you got something to look forward to going forward.
Because like you said, the league is evolving.
You know what I'm saying?
You got them boys up front doing 4-4s.
You got to have somebody who can combat that.
Yeah, yeah.
And he out here, damn near threw the legs in the free throw line.
So I'm something.
I want to see it.
Nah, for sure.
Nah, Young A.R., man, he definitely a talent, bro, for sure.
But I definitely feel like it's going to be more exciting this year, too, man.
We young. We got one of the young boys. Shout out to my man, Drew, from the. But I definitely feel like it's going to be more exciting this year, too, man. We young.
We got one of the young boys.
Shout out to my man Drew from the city, man.
He went to Warren.
So, we got some Naptown boys on the team, man.
We got some young boys in here.
But I definitely feel like it's better.
I can't lie to you.
Even for us, though, it wasn't exciting.
Like, we knew, like, you're not scoring points.
You know what I'm saying?
It's tough.
You ain't winning.
But I ain't going to hold you.
I feel like my whole thing, we really just be wanting to turn the city up. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like's tough, you ain't winning. But I ain't gonna hold you. I feel like my whole thing, we really just be wanting to turn the city up.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like in a different way though.
Like, when we be, like Reggie on the team,
I mean, he on the coaching staff.
So like him, Kato, all the OGs,
they be telling us about, you know,
what type time they was on.
Cause they was playing when Jermaine O'Neal was gone.
And all this other stuff.
So the city was just OD.
And I'm really trying to turn up the same way though. because i feel like when you win and when you turn and sit
up just me being from philly i know what that's like like when the city really rocking with you
bro that's what you really want so they had five sanders and bro they was on they was lit
no disrespect to y'all they was winning 13 games yeah but i don't even know if the city could get
back to that to the person who's lit too yeah Pacers was lit, too. Yeah, it was.
Halliburton liked that, though.
I like Halliburton.
Nah, he cold, but I'm saying the type of people they was.
Nah, hey, hey.
Yeah, that's my only thing.
Them niggas was outside.
That's what I'm saying, though.
That's what I'm saying.
They was dropping 30, and they was shooting up the trip cup.
Yeah, Reggie was telling me.
He be telling me.
He be like, yeah, we had it on smash.
Like, when they was on him, Jermaine and all that.
If y'all want to do that, we could be of some assistance.
Y'all see I'm here, right?
I'm trying to bridge the gap.
We can put that purple demon emo.
Nah.
I'm glad you clarified.
You said that purple was y'all's line.
Hey, yo.
I know it's the month of respect, but you out of pocket.
I ain't in that.
Nah, you tripping.
I ain't messing with them folks.
Respect to the letters.
Respect to the letters.
All of them.
We got to pay.
We got to pocket.
But nah, bro, for real, I think that's the thing, too, though.
Culture in the city.
We just don't, like, it'd be harder for us to tap in with y'all
because we don't know.
You know, I don't think NFL players really gravitate toward the city
because we just don't know who y'all are for real.
But I feel like where is it at in Indy?
I feel like that's a little bit different.
Like, when you go to Houston or if you're in D.C., like,
Philly a little different.
I wouldn't say Philly necessarily, but, like,
even New York a little different spots.
Like, you know, like, all right, look, if I want to be out,
I want to be seen, I want to be where it's mixing at.
This is where I'm going to be on these days, this time with the Woot.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, where did that be?
Lava?
It mixed it up.
Yeah, but see, lava ain't lava no more.
I believe that.
So now we got my nigga C-Hove.
They doing the shit at Georgia Street.
Okay.
We have shit sometimes.
I got shit on Sunday.
We can tap in.
That's why.
Honestly, I feel like what I really think is, what I always wanted to do is on some
shit, like, after we win, we host some shit.
Like, every time we, so like, you knew,
all right, Coach Wayne, we in this motherfucker.
Yeah, I could do that.
That's what Reggie and them used to do, though.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Them niggas was winning back to back to back.
But that make it fun, though.
I ain't going to hold you.
That make it fun.
Like, when you winning and then you turn up,
you like, you get thirsty for that shit.
Like, bro, we got to win because shit,
I already got this lined up. I got
whoop-de-whoop in town.
You feel me? We'll talk after the show. No question.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe you're on.
They had Reggie. They had
Edge. They had some niggas.
And they still throw. I ain't gonna hold you.
Edge still pull up big low.
Still pull up. Still on that.
Edge, my favorite coach player ever, bro.
He was more relatable to us.
That's number eight, too.
That's number eight, too, by the way.
That was number eight.
No, I know Ed's, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying that.
Shout out to Bubby in the club.
Them niggas used to come to our schools, bro.
They really tap in with us.
That's what I'm saying.
We don't know how to really reach out.
Duh, we not in school no more.
But I'm saying back in those days, Jermaine O out. Duh, we're not in school no more. But I'm saying, back in those days,
Jermaine O'Neal used to have an all-star game for the city and the county.
Like, our schools versus they schools, nigga,
and they played at the Pacers facility.
All that shit ain't like that no more.
I think we're getting the culture back, though.
Getting, like, AR as a quarterback,
and then you're getting the lead of Boston there.
Like you said, you got Halliburton, and then they give them the revamp.
That's what it takes to get it back to Baxter City because the city ain't like that.
We like that.
We know how it is.
But for people from out of town to tap in, it's not that easy.
So that winning culture make everything easier, obviously.
But you got to have them people who are like, all right, I'm on that.
Like, I'm stepping outside.
Like, you see people, touch people.
But he can have it on lock this year.
I mean, the All-Star game going to be here.
Oh, for sure.
What a time. What a time.
What a time to be alive.
Indeed.
Because if y'all
really want to turn up
like after wins
from the game, bro,
like we can really
orchestrate that shit.
We got to tap.
We got to tap, man.
We got to tap, man.
Yeah, that can be easy.
It's easy, bro.
But that's what I feel
like the city be needing too.
Because I ain't gonna
hold you like,
one thing about Indy though,
like in a lot of cities,
like, I don't know, it just be like,
where is that space for like black people to really kind of
congregate and kind of get their shit off?
Like you feel me on some cool stuff.
Cause I look, I understand, you know,
the situations come up and you know, look,
I'm from there too.
So I know how that go.
But at the same time, where is the spaces where you'm saying,
we going to go, we going to turn up,
we're gonna have a good time. As long as you get out of here about two o'clock, you going to be cool. You feel me? Like, where is the spaces where, you know what I'm saying, we're going to go, we're going to turn up, we're going to have a good time.
As long as you get out of here by 2 o'clock, you're going to be cool.
You feel me?
Like, where is that at?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to bless you, brother.
That's all I need.
He got you, bro.
That's all I need.
Speaking of turning the city up, hey, Lionel Messi is a god
because he about to take over Miami.
Oh, no question.
You see how much money he turned down from Saudi Arabia?
Absolutely.
He did not want to be over there, bro.
Yeah, I would have went. I would have went.
I would have went too.
Three years, 1.6?
Yeah.
Billion?
Billion.
Huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how they carrying it over there.
Bro, they let Chris turn it down.
They broke laws for Chris Siano.
That's like, hey, bro, you can bring your girl.
You know, they don't play about that shit.
For real.
They let him say that.
What did he get over here, though?
Everything in the world.
He's going to have a dual partnership with Adidas.
So proceeds of that jersey sale, straight to him. Ain't no distribution. Everything in the world, he's going to have a dual partnership with Adidas.
So proceeds of that jersey sale, straight to him.
Ain't no distribution.
Imagine if y'all could have got a percentage of y'all jersey sales straight to y'all pocket.
That's crazy.
On top of the team, he's probably going to have ownership in the future expansion team.
And his layup lines, bro, that's like LeBron going to fucking Shanghai. He's going to murder these niggas and just smile and walk off with it.
I think that's crazy.
That's how you turn the city up.
I wonder how much money he got, though.
He had to get at least $100 million a year.
At least.
They paying them boys $200 a year in Europe.
He's not seeing at least below $300, bro.
He living in Miami?
Yeah, bro.
What's up?
I ain't living.
I would have went to Saudi Arabia for three years, though.
Bro, that's hard.
1.6 billion, bro.
The 1.6 billion is crazy, though. I would have got over the living, bro. He's already up, bro. Yeah, he's's up. I ain't living. I would have went to Saudi Arabia for three years, though. Bro, that's hard. 1.6. I'm living, though. But 1.6 bill is crazy, though.
I would have got over the living, though.
He's already up, bro.
He is.
He's already up.
You're American.
You're selfish, bro.
Never enough money, bro.
You're American, bro.
He's for the people.
You're not for the people.
He's not for the people.
He's not even from here.
I'm just saying, like, he don't care about no bread, bro.
He's like, I get to get in Miami.
He's like, all right, it made crazy bread.
He'd be taxed.
I'm the most
popular soccer player ever bro what i'm turning down saudi arabia to live in miami i'm not
worried we're saddam hussein used to play tag at to go down here with the goddamn swims
which one you're gonna choose a bitch in the bomb go hit your house
You say oh South Beach
Club by 20 HR be having a field day with Brandon Hendricks, boy. I'm just saying, he died for a fire-ass life insurance policy.
This nigga down here in Miami, turning up. We can't never have a plea.
It's always him.
Always him.
It's always him.
Nah, I'm nothing to live inside your world.
Like, respect to them.
They going crazy with the money because, shit, they bought golf, dog.
They literally bought golf.
And I know all them people, like like tiger and them who had them buyouts
and they said nah nah keep it in we're gonna keep it loyal it turned out 800 amps to turn around and
buy that shit a year later hey tiger go sue them niggas bro they always be on your name always be
smut on you you be in the media go get your bread dog because they owe you all right they start a
league i'm out don't even ask yeah I'm trying to make sense. All right.
So let me ask you.
Miami offered you $150 a year.
Five years.
You get $150 a year.
You go to Saudi, you're right.
$1.6.
Three years.
The only thing about Saudi, bro.
All right.
Yeah, nigga.
This is what I'm going to say, man.
Look.
Bro, I don't know.
Look, I might be throwing dirt in their name,
but wasn't these countries like somebody had like a grandma
underneath their sneaker, they found it,
and you went to jail for a year?
Them laws overseas is a little weird.
Yeah, see?
Don't be Brittany Griner.
Bro, I'm saying like that.
And I don't want to go to no Saudi jail, bro.
You don't know what they got.
And them other jails, the prisoners got guns.
I ain't going to jail.
Bro, I seen the Dark Knight Rises, bro.
That's what I'm thinking.
They probably leave your ass in a hole.
I'm doing a real bid.
I'm just sitting over there like this every night.
I might just count my money every day.
They ain't going to take it.
Bro, nah, dog.
You a filthy nigga.
I don't know, man.
Miami might be nice, dog.
1.6 billion, bro.
I'm over there.
Miami, 150 a year. Bro, Miami, 100. You know be nice, dog. 1.6 billion, bro. I'm over this. Miami 150 a year.
Bro, Miami 100.
You know what you're doing with 150 in Miami?
You know what I'm talking about.
You don't want to live in Saudi, bro.
That's cool.
After my three years, I'm going to move to Miami, and I'm going to look at you.
That's fun.
I don't know.
I'm thinking about buying the heat.
This is what he's like.
He's like, all right, let's buy the wars.
Yeah, yeah.
You ready, boy?
You know they took half your shit.
That's why tax-free over there, too.
I didn't think about that.
That's big cap.
You think them boys ain't got no taxes over there, bro?
They do.
They ain't federal, though.
Yeah.
They got some other laws where you got to pay them 5% for your security.
You could have got them to be like, hey, y'all got to pay for my taxes.
I want the whole.
They got life tax.
Yeah, bro.
Saudi Arabia, bro.
They were Toys R Us managers in the government, bro.
Them motherfuckers ain't everything pass over there.
You better not ever go to Saudi, bro.
Me here can never go to Saudi Arabia.
You never can go over there, bro.
No, I'm telling you, bro.
They definitely going to beat you.
Bro, I'll retire after that.
I played them three years ago.
Y'all brought up a good question.
Before we get out of here, NBA, NFL, who y'all think will be the first?
Well, obviously, MJ did it it but he don't count how long do you think it would take for the first nfl player to own the
team in the nfl like this year time by the owner raiders you think so yeah he already basically in
business that's about to go down that's all right that's probably that majority and the owners like
time i don't think i don't think he got no enemies other than probably in the years.
You think he'd be the majority owner?
Hell no, not majority.
That's what I mean.
But a majority owner?
Yeah, like nah.
Nah, that's gonna be a long, long, long, long time.
It's gonna have to, I don't know.
That's gonna take a while.
Bronco finesse, somehow, someway.
I think Magic might get it first though, honestly.
Ooh.
Nah, Bronco get it.
He gonna get the biggest team.
Why you laughing?
Why you laughing? I was just saying, if Magic get it, he's undefeated, honestly. Ooh. Nah, Brian gonna get it. He gonna get the biggest team. Imagine getting it
while he's undefeated, bro.
Nothing can stop him, bro.
Nothing can stop him.
Don't do that.
No, you know what?
If he gets majority honor,
he's the real MJ.
Fuck 23.
Reverse it.
Reverse it is crazy Cause I don't wanna hear
Magic say reverse it
He's the real MJ bro
That's crazy bro
The nigga got the best
Biography ever bro
He do
He do
He got Starbucks
And Doritos
And EVA
Go
I already told y'all
What he just robbed
The guy
He real crazy
The real future DBA team. Go. I already told y'all what he just survived, bro. The guy. Yeah, bro.
The real future.
And on that note, we're about to get up
out of here. Appreciate y'all. Last
but not least, hey, for y'all who put up to the live
show, we appreciate y'all. Bro,
birthday was going crazy. We're going to run a live
show back a little bit different. We learned something,
but we did learn, as we stood on our
fucking party. My boy, how was your birthday man it was cool man i had a great time everybody
came out i seen all my dope boys out there i ain't gonna put nobody out there but i seen
the old schools in the parking lot so it was a good time this down to times hey
z appreciate you pulling up on my boy follow my boys shout them out tell them what they're
gonna find they're gonna see you on the field.
Go ahead and get the socials out there for him.
Oh, yeah, Zaire on IG, ZSmalls underscore on Twitter.
What's your number, bro?
44 for sure.
Yeah, that's what I used to wear in high school.
That is a –
That thing is nasty.
Oh, before we get out of here, where the fuck did you pick –
is that your street number from the hood?
No, I wore number four in college, and then 44 is some Syracuse shit.
You know, I said 44, Jim Brown, all that.
Oh.
Yeah, so it was Jim Brown, Ernie Davis.
So you got a real history behind 44.
Yeah.
Technically.
I mean, also, too, respectfully, they gave me 97 when I first pulled up.
Oh, that's not a pocket.
Well, because how you was built.
They thought I wasn't.
No, I'm just saying, why did they give him a nigga 97?
We're trying. We're trying. No, I'm just saying, why did they give him a nigga 97? We're trying.
No, no, no, no.
Hey, tell me, you and Atreus.
To give a nigga a number 97,
bro, y'all start off at one.
I'm just asking, bro.
To give a nigga a number 97 jerseys,
why did they give you 97?
But it didn't matter. I ain't play no real games in it.
Okay, man.
We got to find a jersey just in case.
You got to put that up.
The 97, right?
The jersey.
Yeah.
That's the one I want.
All my life, I'm going to come up.
No, I swear to God, I hate the fucking coast, bro.
Whoa.
How we went through the whole joint?
Nah, nah, listen.
I'm my mama.
I'm getting a jersey, bro. I fuck with you, bro.
I appreciate you.
I want a 97, though.
For sure.
You getting a 44?
Pike, though, back?
He going to bring it back? I appreciate you. I want a 97 though. For sure. You getting a 44 pike though back? He gonna bring it back?
I would never.
Give me the Z44.
Look out.
For sure.
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