Club 520 Podcast - The Mini Van

Episode Date: March 17, 2023

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How you feeling, my boy? I'm good, man. Got some special people in the building. Special people, you know what I'm saying? To my immediate left, we're going to introduce him last. That's what we should do. Our guest to my far left, you know what I'm saying? Resident Chef, Bishop Greenleaf.

My boy be here. How you feeling? Cool, I'm actually. Let's get it cracking. All right, man. I got a special guest to my left, you know what I'm saying, resident chef, Bishop Greenleaf, my boy B. Hinn. How you feeling? Cool, Anash. Let's get it cracking. All right, man. I got a special guest to my left, you know what I'm saying. I'm going to go ahead and let T introduce him, you know what I'm saying. They got a little relationship. They go back a little bit.

Classic. This is my rookie, man. My days in Indiana. I mean, carved out a beautiful career in the NBA, man. Iowa State, legend. One of the coolest dudes I know in the NBA, man. Glad to have him on the show. George Nguyen.

Appreciate y'all for having me on, man. It's a blessing. I appreciate you sliding through. It's a blessing. He got the PR statements ready. We going to get out of them real quick. Don't you worry. Before we get into the episode, hey, y'all see this lovely table?

It's a real beer. You know what I'm saying? You got some product you want to promote. Get out there. We got this wonderful laptop. You know what I'm saying? You got some product you want to promote. Get out there. We got this wonderful laptop. You know what I'm saying? Be him. We tried to get him

to the Skechers deal last week. He wasn't fucking with us. Teague, you got that shit on today. No, I don't. It's just a regular day for you. They was about to do it. Hashtag.

It's okay. He flexed on us earlier. We appreciate it, though. Nonetheless. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Skechers, look. Teague might go for a million dollars. Nah, you ain't doing it for a million?

Yeah, of course. I'll do anything for a million. George, you know what I'm saying? We'll expound upon that a little bit later. You know what I'm saying? You still in the league, my boy. Hey, man, let's get the show going. That's where he gets to start talking courage.

I like when he in this vibe, though. He got the simple water. We in a good episode today. Hey, you know what I'm saying? You in the league still. Obviously, you know what I'm saying? You playing vibe, he got the simple water. We in a good episode today. You in the league still. You playing shoes, deals, that nature. How much Skechers got to give you to get the deals to the vibe? What's the amount?

You said a mil. I'm jumping at that. You hopping into Skechers for a mil, Tick? Absolutely. That's easy. Be here. He was being difficult. He trying to give up his footwear. I don't even care, bro. A million dollars, we can talk. I just want to be able to wear what I want to wear to the club.

And when I'm hanging out, bro, I just don't want to. On the 520 podcast, give me the sketcher, whatever. The shape up? The shape up. The Kim Cables hat? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to leave them unlaced like I got the dunks. We can rock out.

But you got to wear them to the club. Yeah, when I'm going out and hanging out with my friends, bro, I'm not wearing them, bro. What's up with it? That's all. We're going to see. Once some comments come, we're going to see how them effects change. Before we get to the episode, I always got to start the episode

with a fried-ass question. Obviously, you know what I'm saying, you had a nice journey in the NBA. Still going on right now. But I got to ask you, what's been so far, without giving too much details, you don't want to snitch on nobody, what would you say your most problematic locker room was so far in your playing days? You can go from high school to college to NBA.

Look, they laugh already. Oh, my God. Welcome to 520. Yeah, yeah, welcome. My most problematic locker room? Mm-hmm. Dang, I would have to say with Jeff. Rob Markman, 3Lz- Yes.

Rob Markman, 3Lz- Man. Rob Markman, 3Lz- I let him go. I let him go. Rob Markman, 3Lz- We had a funny group of guys in that locker room. I think it was PGg's last year right yeah yeah so it was like you know a mix between you know i think there was riffraff of him you know not wanting to be there this that and the third or i don't know what what he was thinking i was a rookie i really didn't know anything but we'd go on seven-game win streaks and eight-game lose streaks. I was confused, man.

So, that was my first year in the league. You know, we were a troublesome group. That was a hell of a year for everybody. And we'll get into that a little bit later. He don't like the Pacers at all. He has no respect. I am, unfortunately, a doomed Pacers fan until I die. Tyrese Halliburton is a savior, man.

Hey, the guy. Shout out to him. Out the gate. Shout out to Ben Mather, too. Hey, the guy. Shout out to him. Out the gate. Shout out to Ben Mather, too. We on the way. See, I don't like his name. Hey, no, G. Well wishes to the Pacers organization.

That's all you got for us? Oh, it's a PR Sunday? That's cool. I can get it out of pocket. We can get it there. So, first, starting off, before we even get to that, you know what I'm saying, obviously, we know how you what, you know what I'm saying? It's your background in basketball.

Talk about your high school days, man. You had a pretty goddamn good AU team, you know what I'm saying? It's your background in basketball. Talk about your high school days, man. You had a pretty goddamn good AAU team, you know what I'm saying? How did that come about? We all went to high school together. It was me, Nerlens Noel, Wayne Seldon, Jake Lehman. Man. When you say high school together, like, y'all went to high school together or y'all, like, had that phone call that we going to high school together next year? No, no, it was a boarding school, boarding school so you know we were allowed to do

that you know a lot of people say they play high school together and they live down the street that definitely was not the case but you know for for high school aau we had a pretty solid team so when you was playing in the summer obviously i had a whip and was it a little bit easier for you to play high school basketball playing with a talented team like that? Like you said, you had a damn rare prep school. Y'all playing a crazy schedule as well. How did that prepare you to get into college decisions? Because a lot of times, like, Jeff could probably speak on this.

I mean, he went crazy at U2, but he played in a high school where he lived down the street from. How do you think it would have been different for you probably going up if you went to a prep school situation? You think you would have got exposure differently? I wouldn't have made no prep school. I couldn't do that. Nah, I'm a west side baby.

I can't do that. Outside baby. Yeah, I'm outside. Y'all know me. I was outside. I went to every party. I went to everything. Bored in school?

That ain't me, bro. You couldn't do that? No uniforms? No way. You can't work through the UEO? I wore white t-shirts and rocker wear sweats every day. Yeah. Mike, come on, George. You had to be real disciplined for that, though, G.

I mean, I'm sure it made you a better college student. Yeah. I mean, I guess when you don't know, I wouldn't say you don't know no different. Like, you just, you know. So, for the most part, I mean, I was an hour away from home. Okay. And, I mean, up there, there was mean, I was an hour away from home. Okay. And, I mean, up there, there was no, I was, like, up in the middle of nowhere. There was no thought of, like, I couldn't go act up.

There was nothing to act up and do. What was I going to do? Run out in the wilderness. Because you from the Northeast area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not for everybody, but I'll tell you this. It does keep a lot of, you know, you know how to find a way to avoid trouble. There's some people that just walk outside and

trouble finds them. So for kids like that, I think it's a good idea because it'll probably save a lot of kids who get in trouble in high school and can't pursue their dreams. Was you at a 2011 or a 2010 class? No, I was 2012. But I was originally 2011.

So in the Northeast, it's popular to reclassify. That's popular. Fireware? It's different now. That's the whole globe. I thought we were the first ones to do it. Y'all probably fired me. Yeah. They do have some cheating teams.

So I was young for my grade. So I was originally class of 2011 and I did two sophomore years. So it hurt me in the long So 20 I was originally Class of 2011 And I did two sophomore years So It hurt me in the long run When I'm entering the draft And they're like

Oh he about to be 23 And I was like That ain't no good Did y'all win Peace Jam? Yes Yo How was that? I had a whip

Oh that was Peace Jam was That was the best That's the best tournament out Yeah yeah yeah And then you see it now It gets all that National That's smart Nationally out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you see it now. It gets all that nationally televised. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I don't know. I mean, Nike did a really good job with the EYBL. It was like the first year when we first joined. But Peach Jam was elite. Who was the toughest matchup out there that you can remember? Who was like, damn, he is nice. I got to work on my game. I got to get in the last.

Matchup, I don't, I mean, I just remember having to play the St. Louis Eagles when they had Bradley Beal, Ben McLemore. That was crazy. I mean, that was the only thing you could do because I was like a post guy and them dudes was just dancing around the three-point line. So they was-

That's Mookie and them guys, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he played for they was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he, he, did he play for yeah. They had him, AJ Hammonds. Who else did they have? They had a couple good. Oh boy.

The Sean Thomas. Yeah. Yeah. The Sean Thomas was nice. Oh no. 2011. They was, they was cold. Then who was it?

Team takeover had like BJ Anya, Jeremy Grant, James Robinson. Damn. Yeah, so they had some. All D1. So you had to smoke every game. No, no. Nike EYBL was for real. That definitely helped me, you know, just playing against guys.

Like I went to high school in New Orleans as well, so playing against him kind of helped me play against shot blockers in college so that I could score, not at ease, but easier. How did you get to Iowa State? Damn, that's actually a crazy story. I didn't have any high major offers, I think going into my junior year, and I played in a tournament, andred hoiberg ended up calling me because this prep school we we went on like a ski trip so he called me in the middle of like me going down

the hill tubing or something and i called him back and he wanted me to take an unofficial visit but people don't realize now unofficial visits like couldn't be paid for so like my mom had to like pay for me to go out there i was was originally going to visit just the University of Iowa, but then I decided to do both because they were both recruiting me. So we get out to Des Moines, and Des Moines is a 45-minute drive to Ames, where Iowa State is, and my mom forgot her credit card. So when we go to rent a car, it was like, sorry, like no can do. This was like 12 years ago.

Damn. And so we had to take a cab to Ames, Iowa. Then my mom was like, I don't want them to know that I forgot my credit card. So like I'm running across like this bean field to like get to the practice facility because they're not allowed to pick you up when you're off campus and stuff like that and uh eventually we had to take like a mega bus which

is two hours to get to the university of iowa and then and then finally at the end i was like i'm gonna call a car service so we can just get to the airport and then this is in the middle of nowhere so this dude was like you want the lincoln or the cadillac and one was like just whatever the lincoln this dude turns out to be like a hoarder so like he just had trash like just trash like in the car so like he was driving to like a tuna fish can and like slide across the dash it was a crazy i was like there ain't no way god wants me to go to iowa next thing you know i'm at iowa state and it was because Fred Hoiberg, I mean, he was just an honest dude. Told me he was going to let me have the ball in my hands. And that's what it was from there.

That's crazy. You might have been in Iowa if they had Uber back then. For real. For real. If you could have hopped in a Lyft, your college would have been totally different. Shout out to homeboy driving the tuna whip. That's nasty. Get your shit detailed.

Super nasty. But like, wow, Iowa though. Those two schools. You didn't like, was BC recruiting you? No. Like, BC was like, I remember Wayne Seldon got an offer from them, and he was like, if they offer you, I'll go there with you. And Steve Donahue, I mean, he's the coach at Penn,

so we've talked because I'm in Philadelphia now. But, like, nobody else was like, at that point, like that was the first time I made it to school, they were like, ah, what position does he play? Like, he's not a three, he's not big enough to play a four, he don't dunk on nobody, da-da-da-da. Twainer. Yeah, so it was like Providence came in late with, like,

Ed Cooley, but I had already committed. Billy Donovan was late, but if I went to Florida, that would have been all bad for me. A little different. Yeah, and then in the midst of George Mason was another school, but Laranega took the Miami job, and like I said, if I couldn't do Florida, there ain't no way I could do Miami. You might not have been in the league if you went to Miami.

Yeah, I didn't really have a position. I didn't really – like my highlights were nasty. People would – they'd do highlights like me at Nike Peach, and people would be like, I didn't really have a position. I didn't really, like, my highlights were nasty. Like, people would, like, they'd do highlights like me and, like, Nike Peach and people would be like, I didn't just waste three minutes of my life watching jump hooks and layups and stuff. Bro, it was crazy, man. You do got a nasty game, but it's, like, it's effective.

Yeah. The ball goes in the hoop. Yeah, it's nasty, but it's effective. I used to say that when we was in practice with the Pacers. I'd be like, his game's so ugly. But he's so nice, though. Like, he's the kill. Yeah, what's your go-to move, though?

What you fuck him up with? You can shoot. You got a clip. I want you to talk your shit a little bit. I mean, I've always had that. Yeah, Jeff, you know, he got the. You know, whatever. That looks sweet. And then he run back, don't have no emotion. Just like, yeah, you know, he got the... You know, whatever that looks sweet.

And then he run back, don't have no emotion. Just like, yeah, that's cheap. You know what I mean? He got the chapstick in his socks. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. The chapstick in his socks. Yeah, nigga, I can't have chapsticks at the free throw line.

At least you ain't go to Charles Barkley right with your belly button. Charles Barkley, he just putting Vaseline in his belly button so his lips wouldn't chat. And I was like, hey, that's the nastiest shit ever. He's out of pocket for that. Yeah, that's sick. Shout out to the chaps to get the socks, though.

No, but I first noticed you when you was at Iowa State. I watched all the basketball. I watched college basketball like a fan back then. And you were killing. But you had a rare game. Like, you were doing dribble handoffs fake dribble handoffs running point shooting threes and i'm like man what i couldn't figure you out i'm like how is he killing he's moving in slow motion yeah i was like a little boris d out yeah you know where it's

like i think the college game is so traditional where it was like play through the big. When you first got in the NBA, play through the big. There was no real movement where Fred Hoiberg, we played five out. I would play center just because I was big enough to guard a center back then and then drag them away from the hoop. And they couldn't guard me that far away from the hoop. I was able to just change direction, dribble, fake handoffs, and then I could shoot threes. So that made me effective there, but little did I realize

when I got to the NBA, they was like, cut all that shit out. Yeah, they did. He said, I know first. The NBA will put you in a box. If they want you to do one thing, you're going to do that one thing. So, I got a question for y'all regarding that. How do you think is a better situation to go forward with kids like now that's in prep? Because, like you said, you can go to college and do whatever the fuck you want to as long

as you follow whatever coach you got going. But you can get to the league and they can kind of, like, shift your game. Is it more beneficial to be like, all right, fuck college. I might as well go to a G League or be in a structured place to where they're going to teach me how to play at this level? Or do you want to go to college to learn how to play your own game and then just fit in once you get to the next situation? Man, that's tough because there's some people that, you know, before they've even gotten

to college, they've outgrown the college. So they need to go to like, they're too talented. They're too big of a name. They need to go to the G League elite. But then there's some guys that think they're too big for they're too big of a name, they need to go to the G League elite. But then there's some guys that think they're too big for college that really need to go be, like, disciplined and learn how to play and, you know, learn how to grind and actually work before they actually get to the league.

So it's like a person-by-person basis on that one. But I do like what the G League Ignite thing does, but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better than they are and basis on that one, but I do like what the G League Ignite thing does, but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better than they are, and you get caught taking 500 grand to come out, and that's the most money you'll ever see, and you don't see that you show what you can't do, and they're like, why would I waste time on playing this kid?

That's real. Like you said, you got to sell yourself one way or another. I know it's a little bit later now. We ain't going to talk about the past, but you know what I'm saying? NIL deal. How you feel you would have, hey, you know what I'm saying? Iowa State. I would have went crazy on that.

Especially with you being, you know what I'm saying, a 10-year player. You know, college basketball loves any upperclassman. Man, all those, you know. Four years in the tournament. The farmer money out there, would have i would have had a i would have had a good experience out there but now that i think about it if i had because i remember when i got out of college i did like a signing for like 10 grand and i thought i was rich i was like you couldn't tell me i was driving up to the mall of america minnesota buying true religion like i thought that was the time period yeah I thought I was living Yeah that ain't cool To wear that No no no

Not the truth Yeah Wear what you want man Yeah G don't do that Actually I was a true religion Give me a pair Fuck what G talked about Give me a pair

Oh man He trying to make Every jacket cool again Give me the true religion fit Without the The nigga that's built like me On the front of the shirt I fuck with that

Just give me the regular true religion fit. Now you don't want the boot on your shit? Nah, give me the little coastal symbol on that bitch. Ain't no little true religion side besides the t-shirts. Ain't no fucking like this bitch. It look like the Lucky Charms fucking cereal box. Like, nigga, I don't want that. The gray one?

Man, I wore it in the summer. That was my biggest mistake because, you know, it gets hot. Tricks be like, raise your hands. George the Club going crazy. Oh, man, I was so embarrassed, dude. I was like, from now on, just black T-shirts in the summer. But how was it, though, at Iowa, though? Did you have fun?

Yeah, I had a blast. I mean, so that was kind of really like where I enjoyed, like, the outside of basketball. Right. But it wasn't too crazy where like it got out of hand. Like I could still manage to get in the gym. You controlled it. But like people out in the Midwest, they just know how to drink, man.

Nothing else to it. Shouts in the Midwest. There's like people that drink and then there's people from the Midwest. They just. We do it a little different. Yeah. It's like people are like, I drink. Where are you from? Out of West Coast. Nah. You know what they just. We do a little different. Yeah, it's like, people are like, I drink. Oh, where you from? Oh, the West Coast.

Nah, you know what I mean. How much love you get at Iowa State? I mean, it's still, to this day, I do a charity golf outing out there. I do a basketball camp. I don't do anything else anywhere else. Cause that was like the craziest amount of love that like, that's what I got.

It was wild. That's crazy. We sitting here with two people who could have went to BC. Yeah. That's crazy. Damn. That would have been a lot. You would have had the city going crazy.

I was, I thought about going there. What has tired you the wake visit or just cause they had another guard coming in? Honestly, my mama had a dream. That's really what it was. Damn. She said, you gotta go to wake forest. Shit. I had a dream. That's really what it was. Damn. She said, you got to go to Wake Forest. Shit.

She said, I had a dream. Say less. It was over with. Ain't nothing else to talk about. Yeah. That's crazy. So, you know what I'm saying? You do your thing at Iowa State.

Now it's time to go to the NBA. How was it, like, the workout process? You know what I'm saying? Because you were second round pick, so I imagine you probably had to do a lot more shit than, like, you know, most people have to who go in a couple top slots. Was it more favorable for you, or was it more of a stressful time? Like, damn, I got to go get this shit cracking. Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, my agent had a good plan of what teams he knew actually would value.

Skillset. What I brought, and I remember my last workout was Indiana. And I just remember him. All the other workouts, whether it was like the Clippers. I forget who else I worked out for. But he was like, that one, that's the one you need to be real shit. And I'm like, what are you talking about? They're trying to trade.

He's like, they might trade that first round pick, but they have a second round pick. So I think I was in there with like Yi pharaoh shout out to yogi uh check diallo maybe even bryce johnson i can't remember but uh i ended up playing really well in that workout and kevin pritchard i remember kp yeah came and had a conversation with me after and i was like oh damn that went better than all the other workouts then you get to draft night and that was the best, worst night of my life. It was 50 picks before you. That was like four hours of sitting there just waiting. It felt like forever. And then, you know, that's when you can't, I mean, that whole trade happened. You was coming in then. So Jeff really kind of stole like the limelight

because it was like, oh, the Indiana kid's coming back. Yeah, fuck him. Yeah, I'm like. We've been waiting four hours. Yeah, we ain't going to talk about the 50th pick. We just got this dude. Then he chose that weak-ass number. 44. Man, I feel you, G.

What did you tell me? You said you was going to pick 50. I was going to wear a zero, but CJ had a zero. He was nothing. Nah, he wasn't giving that up. So I have 44, so I can throw it west side. Alligate. Alligator. Both hands.

But y'all was just as mad as you. But go ahead. Nah, but I want to ask you, though. Was you thinking NBA the whole time, or was you like, yo, I might have to go overseas? Or was it like, nah, I'm going to the league? I mean, I always, like, the league was always like, that's where I wanted to go. But to be honest with you, I never was like working on like, ah, I got to get to the league where like most people do.

I was like, oh, I'm trying to be All-American, or I'm trying to be, you you, I never was like working on like, ah, I got to get to the league where like most people do. I was like, oh, I'm trying to be All-American or I'm trying to be, you know what I mean, first team All-American or like Big 12 player of the year. And then it was like, oh, shit, your name's on the draft board. I was like, damn, I could actually. Because my whole like, if you look at my game, like, yeah, it is nasty, it's effective. But like I never really thought,

because nobody ever gave me like the reassurance to be like, yo, your game is league. You know what I mean? It was always like, yeah, you nice, if we played at the YMCA. I've always been. I've always. You know what I mean?

Like someone's. But I think that probably helped you though. No, for sure. Because you stayed true to who you was the whole time. But you look at my game now, you watch college film, I was spin moves up and under until like now it's like catch a shoot and drive. And obviously I could do other stuff, but you realize like if you could fit a role,

there's probably like five to six to seven roles on a team. If you could fit one of those, you could really like just stick it out. Like I didn't realize that like when I first got to Indiana, like I'll never forget. It was preseason and I got got in, and I traveled, and I seen Nate McMillan. He was walking to the coach's huddle, and he was like, someone has to talk to him. He travels every time he's about to dribble.

And in my head, I'm like, I should just never dribble again. You know what I mean? So you got to find where you really fit and who's going to give you an opportunity to do that. Not throwing shade at him, but it kind of helped me realize, all right, there's some things

that I could get away with before, but now it's like, all right, now the box of being a corner three-point maker, that helped me just stick around long enough to get more opportunities to show what else I could do. Who put you, like, who got you into that mindset, though? Oh, Quinn Snyder. that helped me just stick around long enough to get more opportunities to show what else I could do.

Who put you, like, who got you into that mindset, though? Oh, Quinn Snyder, 100%. Quinn Snyder? Yeah, he's like a, I don't know how to explain it, but he's like a basketball. A mad scientist. Yeah, like a mad scientist. Like, that's like, he's just so in-depth with his detail. You know, I just remember, like, he had one of the assistant coaches

come talk to me. It was like, hey, you know, obviously we signed you, but if you want to play, you have to make that shot and not let someone just straight line drive you on the other end. All right, just start running to the corner. I'll pass you the ball. We'll start shooting corner threes. So literally, like, my first year when I was with him,

all I did was just rep out corner threes. And you know how the NBA is, like if you don't know who a dude is and you out there, the ball gets passed on one three point line, you like, man. So if you miss, all right, they gonna keep, but you start making, then you start getting a reputation like, all right,

like this dude can make shots. And then, you know, the evolution of three point shot making, you know, on the move, you know, all that shots and then you know the evolution of three-point shot making you know on the move you know yeah all that and then you eventually figure out like damn if i can make three pointers and keep guys out of superstars laps when they ice on that's that's a role you know and that's kind of like what i've carved out here and and uh it didn't look that promising when I was my rookie year. But it took some time to figure out and I'm going, this is year seven.

So it's crazy. Hey, salute to that too. Cause the way that you made it, like you said, you didn't have a situation where you just came in, got drafted. I'm playing,

I'm here next contract. You had to really grind. And like you said, you came into a situation that that shit changes a lot of players because you came into a volatile situation in Indiana where a lot of unmoving parts was going on, and a lot of things should have happened that didn't happen. Also, like you said, shout out to Coach McMillan, but where he was at, where the organization was at,

and where the players were at was all different places. And it's your first experience in the business of basketball. That can break a lot of people because, like you said, you're Big 12 player of the year. You come in here like, I'm used to doing whatever the fuck I want to, and then it's like, nah, you got to do this. That breaks a lot of players right like you said you big 12 player of the year like you come in here like i'm used to doing whatever the fuck i want to and it's like nah you got to do this that breaks a lot of players right there yeah off the sense of i've been doing this shit my whole life and now you telling me how to play but like you said you took advantage of a situation and you making a

full career out of that shit now we're talking about the pace you know i'm saying who was your vet man you was a rookie who was your who was your guy that you you cracking? This man right here? Jeff Teague. The first trip we had, he pulled me aside and he was like, listen, your rookie year is going to be crazy, but I got you. I'm going to ask you to do a couple things here and there. A couple things. Yeah. I remember one of them was the Dove soap.

After every game, I can appreciate that. My man cares about his hygiene. You know what I mean? He wasn't using none of them weak soaps that they give us. Wait, he made you go get the dove soap?

Nah, so every... I'm sure you probably still get the dove. Yeah, absolutely. So... Nah, go crazy. I don't want to interrupt your interview, for real.

Go ahead. Nah, you got it. I'm not, bro. Why can't you say that? You going... I swear to God, I'm chilling, y your interview, for real. Go ahead. Nah, you got it. I'm not, bro. I used to. Why can't you say that? You gone. I swear to God I'm chilling, y'all. For real, go ahead.

The soap that they give you is like hand sanitizer. Yeah, yeah, no. No, the hotel soap is trash. No, no, no. No, no, I'm talking about it's up on the wall. One of them type soaps. Yeah, the locker room. Oh, yeah, locker room.

Oh, I thought you was talking about the hotel. After the game, after the game. Oh, okay. Oh, wait. My bad, I didn't elaborate. So he'd be like, hey, yo, here's some, you know what I mean? I ain't going to go into detail, but you know what I mean? Is that less?

Just let me, every road game that we have, like, can I get some Dove soap? Yeah. You know what I mean? I understood. So I always carry around, like, Dove soap. I also had to carry around the cards. Got to go get Long's Donuts. Shout out to Long's.

So, you know, when some of the other vets, you know, didn't step up, do you know what I mean? Help me out, my good man, you know what I mean? Look out for me. Nah, that's love. And, but another one. Nah, because some vets, they'll do you dirty and make you go get shit and be like, all right.

And then not pay you. So that's kind of like a lost art. Oh, that's grimy. That's kind of like a lost art. So when he first was like, yeah, like, here you go. Like, this is what I expect out pay you. So that's kind of like a lost art. That's grimy. That's kind of like a lost art. So when he first was like, yeah, here you go. This is what I expect out of you. You know what I mean? I'm going to look out for you if you ever have any questions.

You know what I mean? And from there, that was the best season ever. You know what I mean? I think every rookie should have a vet that actually looks out for them. I mean, I think I was the only rookie on the team, but he actually showed me the game. You know what I mean? Kept it real, and that was a rough season for me,

but my guy always kept it interesting. Another one was Al Jefferson. I can't never forget him. He was making me get him a breakfast sandwich before every shoot around. And Jimmy John's after every shoot around with like potato chips and water. And I remember we was in New York and I ordered like an egg sandwich from, and they did some fancy, like this is a southern dude. So he like wants scrambled eggs, bacon, cheese, like just the regular way.

So they gave me me poached eggs. And it was right before the bus was coming down, but I ordered an omelet for myself. So I'm like, oh, I got an omelet. So I ended up cutting half an omelet and tucked the poached eggs off, threw it on the bagel, put the bacon on it, threw some cheese on it, put it together, and I'm walking down. Because whenever the breakfast sandwich was sucked, he'd be like, yo, fella, man, this is the worst shit I ever had ever.

And I'd be like, oh. That was a big hell, though. Yeah. He would be like, you're the worst fucking rookie I done ever had, man. Like, you shut up. Like, you stupid. And he was just joking.

But after a while, he'd be like, damn, I got to be better. So when I'm getting on the bus, I'm like shaking. He always sat in the back. So I walked it all the way down in the back. And I'm like, damn, I gotta be better. So when I'm getting on the bus, I'm like, shake. He always sat in the back. So I walked it all the way down in the back. And I'm like, damn, he definitely gonna know. I cut this off. It's like hanging out. The baby gonna like.

Listen. So we ride. I remember we were in New York. We ride in the shoot around, which is crazy. We had a shoot around in New York. That's crazy. That's wild. That's wild.

Now that I. So we like 10 minutes in. And he like, yo, fella. And I'm like, that's crazy. That's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild. Rob Markman, that's wild.

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Oh, yeah. You didn't have that motherfucking post, Sam. Yeah, my mama used it. Nah, but we shot a fuck with George, though. George, you laughing, nigga. I'm serious. He would have had that Motherfucker Big hands

And fucking with the hands Like Y'all know how I was I was nothing like him He was cool I ain't deal with nobody Telling me shit So you went out your way G

That's why I asked I was like I know some of his rookie stories In here You're like That's cool He took it easier That boy

You had to deal with some shit He was so cool I got the best part About his rookie years After our season was over I'm on fire You good This is a podcast I got the best part about his rookie year is after our season was over. Oh, my fault, yeah. You good?

This is a podcast. We don't have to be professional because it's our shit. Interesting. Literally, my rookie year after the season was over. We playing one-on-one. Yes. Yeah. This is where my knee problems start. You remember that shit? I slipped, bro. I'm a free agent. I slipped. I banged my knee on the ground. I'm like, shit? Yeah. I slipped, bro. I'm a free agent. I slipped.

I banged my knee on the ground. I'm like, oh shit. I was so scared. I thought I ended it. I thought I tore my ACL. I looked at him. I'm like, oh shit. I got to quit playing.

I just left. I ain't come back to the facility at all. No, that was it. I was like, fuck. I fucked up my shit. My agent called me. I was like, I think I fucked my shit up. But I had like tore a little piece of my meniscus.

It was over. Damn. But then he still had to go collect. I went through that motherfucking drill shit in Minnesota. I'm over there. That shit was hurt like hell. Are you going to figure this motherfucker out? Yeah.

They ain't do no MRIs on the knee or nothing. I was like, hell yeah. We going to sign this motherfucker. I'm going to play this shit up. I love this nigga the world. That's one thing I'll say about my nigga. He going to get to that check and I always respect that. I was going to play this shit up. That's one thing I'll say about my nigga. He going to get to that check and I respect that. I'm going to play that shit up.

I'm going to sign this motherfucker. No question. So that's, you know what I'm saying, you go through that first year and then after that, you know, take us a little bit through that journey

because I'm saying you obviously moved around a little bit and you was in the G League. How was it like going through that first year in the NBA and then transitioning to the G League and then you end up transitioning back out to Utah?

But how was that time stand for you? Man, that was a humbling experience. I mean, I get cut, you know, so you hit rock bottom. You're like, damn, did I just mess up the only opportunity that I'll ever have to play in the NBA? And then the best thing I did was I was able to sign Exhibit 10, which is like you're going down to the G League with the Golden State Warriors.

So I could see how like KD, Steph, Klay, Draymond, how they work like every day. And then to be around guys like Andre Iguodala, Sean Livingston, like you got to see like. So I went from one side of the spectrum to the other where it's like they just won a championship. And so just to see how they had a daily routine. I think that was the biggest thing with me is just, you know know you can't just work on the days that you feel like work and it was

more or less that uh you know you got to do it every every day and get a little bit better every single day so obviously that was humbling you know being there and being in the g league having to start making you go i think i made 650 my year, and then my checks every two weeks were like $900 because I was making $25,000 on California. Damn. Santa Cruz Warriors. That's when it was like, all right, I better make this shakeout, or you know what I mean?

I don't got no other choice. So obviously the G League is a same game, but it's totally different. You can get away with over-dribbling and stuff like that that but it allowed me to show what i really was doing in college at kind of the nba-ish level and then i got that two-way contract which rather than having to be on a 10-day which is i can't imagine the pressure to do is on a 10-day you gotta feel um so then i was allowed to like you know play the rest of the year on a two-way obviously you got practice time you know summer league and i practice time, summer league, and I had a good summer league,

and I ended up getting signed as one of the 14th, 15th men. And the thing that saved me was Tabo Cephalosha had got suspended for five games. Damn. So they had to play me in, like, spot minutes, and I made shots for five games. He came back, played over me, but I ended up getting back in the rotation.

And from there on out, it was. Hey, that's real. Breaking a rotation. I always say this. As much as people talk about athletes and how much they get paid, yeah. But you couldn't imagine. People grinding for them 10 days. You got to make the most out of nothing.

Because you ain't getting too many opportunities. Barring somebody getting crazy injured, you probably not going to shoot the ball that much. You got to do something in that time period for a team to be like, hey, we got to keep him around. Why they looking at eight other different prospects? But like you said, you made that shit happen. Got in there, got the all-star, got it cracking. And then you get to Utah, you know what I'm saying, with Coach Snyder.

How was that? Because you was at Utah when Utah, you know what I'm saying, had like a revamp, you know what I'm saying? You got Young Donovan. You got Rudy. How was that experience like getting back? What was your nickname?

Oh, wow. I wasn't going to bring that up. Nah, he had a fire nickname though. The minivan. The minivan, that shit. See, here he go. There you go,

here you go. G, what? That's the G-Wagon now. Oh, it went from minivan to G-Wagon? You told me to talk my shit,

I'm talking my shit, man. Pop your shit. Well, why they call you the minivan, though? Nah, because... So I was out the rotation, and we was beating Brooklyn, like, bad, and they subbed me in the game, and I had a chance to go up and dunk, and, you know, like, the rim graze was, like, barely over the rim. So Joe Ingos, who's, like, the king of talking shit on the team,

was like, man, what the heck was that? I was like, whoa, whoa, listen, I'm not like a Ferrari like the rest of y'all. I'm more like a minivan. I need a couple laps around the block before I get to top speed. And then the sideliner reporter was like, the minivan, I love that. And then I was screwed after that. If you would have went to the record, I'd be like, the minivan, you would have been mad.

Yeah, like Escalade, you know what I mean? I fucked with that nickname. When I heard it, I was like, they calling you the minivan? This dude was talking, when I was shooting threes in the corner, you know, trying to make a living, this dude was on the bench like, hell nah. He was like, you made that, I knew you was gonna look at me after that.

That's my guy. He's a hater. It was so fun competing against him, cause it's like somebody you watch go through it and then you get there and it's like, damn, he having his moment and he was killing. That motherfucker could shoot. What the fuck? And like you said, your timing is impeccable because a lot of people come in the league at different times to where your specialty may expire in two years.

You came in a situation to where now it's like, hey, the premium, the most important position. You look at guys like Duncan Robinson. you came in a situation to where now it's like hey the premium the most important position like you look at guys like Duncan Robinson Duncan Robinson got paid a shit ton of money to do one thing

and now they're kind of like eh we don't really fuck with that but he hit at the right time oh my god as you can get attest to free agency matters about timing not about situations

it's timing it's all timing and you in a perfect situation you in a perfect situation right now she's a boy and you guard better than what they give you

credit for at times like yo and that's that's another thing that I want to talk about talk your shit let them know You in a perfect situation right now. She's a boy, and you guard better than what they give you credit for at times. Yo, and that's another thing that I want to talk about. Talk your shit. Let them know. The perception is crazy. Yeah, G, you got a little loud. Yeah, because at the end of the day, someone will look at someone that looks like they can defend, right?

But someone will drive past them four straight times, and they don't even, you know what I mean, don't even bat an eye. But if someone go by me, oh, look at him. Look, he can't defend. Light skin, Jay. That's what I mean. I used to get that shit though. I was never a defender though.

But you know what it was is like, cause you have like the emotionless face that people didn't think that you cared, right? So like, he would even tell me on the bench, like, hey, watch this. Like, he'll go through a lob and be like, ah. And coaches would be like, Jeff's in the game today. Like, what?

Because, yeah. For real. He'd be doing the same stuff, like, drop a dime, it'd be a nice pass, lay up. He'd be like, look at him. He looks like he's asleep out there. Like, look. I'm like, what do you want him to do?

Like, that was never you, but you knew how to play the game and now that i'm seven years in i know exactly so would you call yourself a elite defender uh i mean okay here's what i'm gonna say i i feel like there's guys that get picked on you know in, in the playoffs with, like, that guy's in every, like, I'm doing two things. I'm talking crazy shit. Oh, we know. We love it. And I'm just going to be ultra physical. Like, you're going to have to have me just foul.

Like, you know what I mean? It's not, like, you're going to have to hit tough contested jumper. You're not just going to, and then, like, think you're just driving by me. Like, if you drive by me one time, it's like, you know, like. You don't make them feel it. Exactly. Where, like, these other guys that are out there that get picked on, they're like, they don't want to touch nobody. They got G fucked up.

Yeah, no. It ain't sweet. Yeah, we ain't switching for G, y'all. Okay. So, how was it, like, when you had to leave Utah? Was it bitter? Sweet? I mean.

Damn. You had a good thing going. No, I mean, that hurt. I mean, that really hurt. That was like the first time where I felt like I really earned my roster spot, earned to be there. And it was like, yeah, we signed Rudy Gay. We going in a different direction.

And I'll never throw shade on another player. But obviously you look at other people and where they are in their career, like Rudy Gay's had a hell of a career. But in my mind, I was like, but like what I did, like I shot 40%. Like, you know what I mean? I came in, never complained. And like, that was just taken for granted. But, you know. I feel like it fucked up once you left.

Like, cause it seemed like y'all was all like super cool. Like even seeing y'all after the game. Yeah, like Donovan. I feel like it fucked up once you left. Cause it seemed like y'all was all super cool. Even seeing y'all after the game. You and Donovan, y'all was at Cheesecake Factory and shit. And I'm like, that's the only place I could go. For real. That's the only place I could link up. Plus Rudy was there temporarily.

He wasn't trying to. He's still there. Oh, he is? But I'm just saying, I just feel like they probably, I don't think that was really where he probably wanted to go at first though. You think Rudy wanted to be there? I mean, shit, I don't know.

I mean, you go where the money goes. But so like, when you're a free agent, you thinking like, if the team signs someone that kind of does the same thing that you do for more money than what you're making, they chose him over you. So I had to go find another place oh yeah which that was like damn so you didn't really value what i did you felt like you had to go get someone else to to do something that i did and think they're gonna do it better so that was my first time experiencing that i never had free agency where teams were like hey

we're asking about you so that was like yeah i was like, damn, like that, that really like, that was one where when I got to Philly, I was like, damn, I, I miss Utah, but I know they don't really care about me. And, and then when you play alongside like two superstars that like demand,

like double team and stuff like that, you like, shit, I thought I was opening Utah. Yeah. I just double team, try to trap it. I hope he missed opening Utah. Yeah, you wide open. Yeah. Tuesday ain't even like, I just double teamed, tried to trap him. I hope he missed. I'm getting wide open shot after wide open shot.

And it was a blessing because I didn't think it was a blessing in the beginning, but it really helped me show the NBA or other GMs how much more I have to offer in my game if I'm given the opportunity. And you on a team that's highlighted in the league. Oh, yeah. Y'all are on a showtime team. Oh, absolutely. So, like, everybody's seeing you every week.

Yeah. Do you think there's – I mean, obviously, it's a difference, but do you think there's a really big difference from, like, when you're in smaller market teams or, like, even if you're going crazy? Yeah, for sure. Look at Dave Miller. Yeah. If he's in LA.

Talk about it. He should have been an all-star off the jump, but being in Sacramento, even though they playing good as hell this year. Yeah, they're like third in the West, and they still don't even get like- They gonna fuck around and get the two seed, and they still don't give a shit. And they haven't made the playoffs in 15 years. Like the bean. Man.

They was due for a good year. Yeah, but I mean- to play us in 15 years. Like the bean. They was due for a good year. Yeah, but I mean, they were. What do you mean they was due? They was due seven years ago. Like come on. Gee, they was due for a good year, damn. They ain't been good since Bibby was there. Nah, come on man.

What they're doing over there, that's real effort. It's not just the luck, you know what I mean? Damn, gee, I ain't saying it was luck. I'm just saying... Nah, yeah, I'm not saying that. Ain't no G shit. If they were Skechers, you'd be like, nah, they ain't do. G, you on that bullshit. All I'm saying is

they a good team. They done had every fucking draft pick since motherfucking 97. So you damn... First draft, first round, you do for a good season. No disrespect to, first draft, first round, you due for a good season. No disrespect to Marvin Bagley, but boy did they fuck up that draft.

That was supposed to get them back. Woo, is Vladi still over there? No, hell no. After Vladi had the picks on the draft. Shout out to my nigga, DeMorris Cousins.

Fuck Vladi. Come on, same time as him. So now Vladi out T-Hawk. I'm going to say Thomas Hill. That nigga crazy, man. So now Vladi out of there. See? There you go, G. That's why they made it.

You played with two, you know what I'm saying, high-low tandem so far in your career. I got to ask you. I think obviously we know where you're going with this, but what's the difference between playing with Donovan and Rudy and the difference between playing with Harden and Embiid? Oh. I mean. Embiid. Oh. I mean. Embiid demands double.

I'll do it for you, bro. He demands double teams. Rudy didn't demand no double teams. Yeah, I mean, like, Rudy is like, think about who we had, like, in Utah, right? Like, we had all, like, 6'8", you know, not really NBA athletic, like, shooters. Like, Royce O'Neal, Joe Angles, Boyan. Yeah. We even have Mike Conley.

So, I mean, Chris Snyder was like, hey, worse comes to worse. Just pressure up into your guy. Stay on his hip going to the rim. And Rudy, you know what I mean? Like, at the end of the day, I remember sometimes just guiding my guy into Rudy and then just falling right off into the big. Like, he going to either block it, affect it. Like, you going full speed, got to shoot over a 7-2 shot blocker.

It changes the game. And we're taking away the three-point line. I mean, like, so we were allowed to play defense a crazy way, which didn't give any teams advantage. Like, if you wanted to beat us, you would have had to make, like, 25 mid-range jump shots at, like, a 50% clip, which is, like, unheard of. And then you, you know, Donovan was so athletic, dynamic. mid-range jump shots at like a 50% clip, which is like unheard of. And then you, you know, Donovan was so athletic, dynamic.

Like he's just creative out there. Like you seen him last night? He hit someone with a sham guard and then a pull-up three. No, he nasty. You know what I mean? And then he's just, he's just, he was something that we didn't have. We all was, you know, I hate to say unathletic, but like to the NBA standard of athleticism. Like, so none of us had the ability to like really go by anybody and quinn's a

mastermind at creating advantages then you have donovan and someone that could play one-on-one so it's like two different dynamics because now i'm playing with guys that don't need any action like they all go get a bucket regardless from the other side of the court. In the corner being double teamed. Like, we played last night. I don't know when y'all going to hear this. But against the Bucs, I mean, James, we was down 15 points going into the fourth quarter. It was like James Harden was like, all right, come on. You know what I mean?

Lay up three, step back, and one. Next thing you know, you're like, like Jalen McDaniel said to me, he was like, oh, we win it? I was like, yeah. Like,

this dude just really just put the team on his back and, I mean, they're just two different people, but the dynamic duo of Joel and,

and James, I don't know, I don't know if you've ever seen a pick androll tandem like that in this era of the game with switching. Because you can't switch. Like, what are you going to put your big on, James? What are you going to do?

Put the guard that's guarding on Joel? Like, it's over. And then you surround that with shooting. You know what I mean? That's how you get some chicken. And that way, like you said, regardless, if you don't cover him, they're going to get free throws. And I ask that question because, shit, people,

as much as I'm not the biggest Rudy fan, yo, his defense changed a lot. So being able to, like you said, close out and send somebody to the rim can be just as effective as being able to throw the ball in the post if you play in the right way. Right. No, you ain't lying. I mean, the thing about Joel is that you want to come double team, he has that mid-range where he'll just shoot over you.

You see teams just get discouraged because they come to double and he's looking and shooting right over you. Whereas, like, Rudy is more of like a lob threat. But on the defensive end, he's stopping other team from scoring 20 easy, 30 easy points because they ain't. They ain't no jelly. They ain't no jelly. You thinking about that shit

when you come to the play? Yeah, come on. I remember we played, remember when we was in Indiana, they were like, go bear. I remember Dan Burke, go bear. If you go in there, just think about it,

whether if you're going to kick out or try and shoot a layup because his blocks turn into like, they're like turnovers for us. They lead into fast break points for them. And like you said, that's the part of the game that people don't really put together. Like you said, a quick little contest or a block is a layup on the other end.

It's just an effect of getting that bitch in the post. Also, James Hart should be all-star this year. I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, James Hart not getting all-star this year is absolutely crazy. That's crazy. For no reason. I understand everybody.

Respect to those who had good years. I ain't trying to down nobody. But James Hart was fucking cooking this entire year. 22, 11, and 7. Yeah. Just give somebody else a turn. Just give somebody else a turn. He's a hater.

That's just what it is. It's just equal opportunity. If anybody else had that stat line, bro, you'd be getting a max deal. Talk about it. Your stat line is crazy. I got a question, though. What are you listening to game day? You got some music that what are you listening to game day you got some music

that get you together or you know obviously being in Philly you know Meek Mill eventually comes on but

you know who I really really been listening to is NBA Youngboy yes my CG that's why he shoots I mean

so I don't so here's the thing it's like where I've come where I've come Where I've come from I can't really say That I really You know

Understand Something he's talking about But It's okay I'm here to got you I'm here to got you G You fuck with NBA

I fuck with Youngboy too Youngboy fire That one I ain't gonna lie bro That shocked me No I mean It's not like Like

It's one of those things That I'm listening to on a constant basis, but his music definitely gets me hype. That's the vibes. That's what's up, man. Hey, do you remember what he was listening to? Because we had a whole argument last week about Nas, and I just refused to believe that he had one mic playing in y'all locker room when y'all was getting ready for a game.

I wore a headphone. Oh, come on. My phone. I wore a headphone. Respectfully. You was a great teammate. Yo, you know who he put me on, though? Okay.

Which helped me, you know, ladies out there. Eric Bellinger. Come on, man. He good. Yeah. The R&B guy? Yeah. That's a good one.

I ain't going to knock him. Usually we be at it about music. That's a good one. Yeah, nah. So I didn't know nothing about him. He was like, yo, you got this one right here. Play this for me. So who do you?

He put you on Eric B., but who you fuck with on the R&B side, though? He the R&B guru. Debatable. I mean, I'm very. I like Genuine. Wait, wait, wait. I can tell. But see?

See, G? Genuine. But you got to understand. I'm mixed, right? Okay. So, like, that side, you know what I mean? That side where you talking about, like, someone at a cookout, like, mm, this is me and your mama, you know what I mean? I ain't really got too many of those, you know what I mean?

I respect. I go with the flow, you know what I mean? So I'm still being put on to, you know what I mean? I go with the flow, you know what I mean? So I'm still being put on to, you know what I mean? I ain't gonna sit up here and lie to you and make up some shit that I never heard. Nah, we want you to be you. I say G1, got the girl. Hey, what y'all do in Utah though, like off the court?

What did y'all do, like for real? They wasn't playing G1, I tell you. It was actually cool, cause it actually gave me like time to just not feel like, you know, when you're in a city where there's some shit to do, you like, I gotta be doing something like the views. It was cool. There was, there's good people out there,

but I was never in a rush to like try and go meet up at dinner or I just, it was just slow pace. So it was more or less just chill. I mean, there was like rooftops that had simple stuff. Nothing that you – No, I was just wondering. I ain't never kicked it in Utah, so I always wonder. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, Park City is – when there's Sundance out there, there's some good times. Did Utah remind you of Iowa? No. Disrespectful. No, come on, man. I mean, we just talked about your recruiting trip, so that kind of brought me back to...

That kind of brought me back to the camp Uber. Iowa was flat, so Utah had mountains and... I'm talking about the vibe, G. The vibe. What's going on? No, because drinking wasn't really a thing. It wasn't a thing. Okay, okay.

So now you in Philly, you know what I'm saying? How was it going outside of Philly? Like how's that camaraderie, you know what I'm saying? You in the locker room with the homies and y'all stepping out to. Hold on, let me ask you this before we go to that one. Oh no, no, go ahead. After a game, what are the fans like in Philly?

Cause I've been to Philly. Oh yeah, they don't play. When they getting they ass kicked. Boo. Them fans, brutal. They be talking shit to y'all like. Oh, yeah. They don't play. When they getting their ass kicked. Boo. Them fans. Brutal. They be talking shit to y'all like. Yeah. Like, I remember, like, you might have to pull the clip on this one.

But we played Denver. And it was, like, Joel's first matchup against Jokic. And they was going, like, they was neck and neck MVP, right? Yeah. And he kicked it to me in the corner. And we was down three. Jermichael Green blocks my three. I get the rebound back.

We still down three. There's like three seconds left, but I had like a, I gotta just score quick. You know what I mean? I just got my shit blocked. So rather than kicking it out to Tyrese Maxey, I shoot a floater. Time ends, we lose.

This is like, Doc is like, what the fuck? Man, I'm walking off the court. They're like, you fucking suck. Da, da, da. So I'm like, damn. So I'm driving up, you know, because there's like a ramp to like get out. And then, so I'll never forget this. Like, people know like your car after a while. They're like, I don't even know why we signed your fat fucking ass.

Damn. No, it's crazy, but I can appreciate it because they actually care. You know what I mean? Whereas, like, I wouldn't want to go to a place where it's just like, eh. You know what I mean? Where half the stadiums fill. Like, every night, like, you see people in there who are like, it's a blue-collar, you know, city where it's like, I'm an electrician. I make 80K a year.

If I'm going to a game, you know. It means something. Yeah, like, I put a lot of my hard-earned money in this. Like, I want to see you play your best. You know what I mean? And I can appreciate that. And it definitely makes you want to be prepared when you get out there. Like, you ain't going out there like, eh.

I don't know if I got it tonight. Not at home, at least you ain't doing it. Hey, them Philly fans are stretchers. Them motherfuckers boo Santa Claus. I'll speak for, you know what I'm saying, I'm going to save G, because obviously he's a professional. He's a Sixers organization player right now. But you Eagles fans, y'all fucking suck.

They are probably the worst fan base. I speak for me. Now, G, I know he going to the crib. Fly, Eagles, fly, baby. Oh, no. I'm happy they flew where they flew to. Right back in that cage. Defund the Eagles. Hate them. Shout out to, I know he going to the crib. Fly, Eagles, fly, man. Oh, no. I'm happy they flew where they flew to. Right back in that cage. Defund the Eagles.

Hate them. Shout out to, you know what I'm saying? It hurts. He's a guy. I respect that a lot. He cold, but them Eagles niggas, they don't get no play around here. But like you said, how was it once you, you know what I'm saying, deal with what you deal with in Utah?

Now you in Philly, a little bit different of a vibe stepping out, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. MVP candidates on your team. I'm sure going out is probably a little bit more lit there than it was in Utah. I would imagine. Yeah. I mean, we have a good time as a team. You know, obviously, New York's right up the street, if anything.

But Philly is, they definitely show love. And we definitely have people on the team that, you know, know how to have a good time, that's for sure. Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely. You know, you got to kick back, relax, that's for sure. Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely. You got to kick back, relax, and enjoy yourself every once in a while. You can't be always uptight. You know what I mean? I'm fucking with you.

Where we going tonight? Tiki? Oh, you was here with Tiki? You're a nasty nigga, G. One time I got to talk about where was you outside here? I know you was here for a year, but where was you outside here? It was you was here for a year, but what was you outside here? It was Revel. Oh, wow.

You were here. Tiki Boss. Yeah, what was... They had you at Tiki Boss. What was the spot like under the bridge? Cadillac Ranch. New Year's Eve. Jeffrey ain't happy with it.

He didn't take it off. Nah, I took him there, didn't I? We were over there, New Year's Eve. Where is that? That was like a ranch, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good time.

I seen him in a hill, though. Yeah, it'd be a lot of mixed motherfuckers. Hey, man, slow and roll with him, man. It'd be a lot of mixed motherfuckers in there. It was a great experience. Indy sometimes. He's crazy. He's kind of crazy.

I'm just saying you in there like okay cuz it's like it's a bunch of us in this motherfucking he didn't take you to no trench

like he took you to some safe spot that shit wasn't there then though yeah yeah yeah tremors and all that shit was gone

you went in there you probably you was probably in that motherfucker jumping with your arms in the air no we got that's what you think no he's crazy You was probably in that motherfucker jumping with your arms in the air. No, we was in that.

That's what you think? He's crazy. Don't let him paint you, bro. I'll fuck with you, G. Nah, but he didn't take you nowhere where it was really happening. Yeah, you ain't go a couple blocks away from Long's. He had you in the same spot. It's a bro's defense, too.

What's the place across the street at Long's? Oh, yeah, you went to the Icon. Did you, Catfish? Yeah. Okay, long? Oh yeah, you went to the icon. You catfish. Yeah. Okay, G. Come on, I'm cultured, man. I'm cultured, man. Okay, light skis. My nigga ain't the Vogue, baby, okay?

Oh man. Y'all retarded, man. All right, y'all just saying something. Y'all be in so much trouble, man. Nah, I'm just fucking with you, bro. Like, what's the difference between your team this year and last year? I mean, I feel like I did some radio show. Yeah, that was funny.

I texted you that day. Oh, yeah, you were hilarious. But the way I said it was like, you have a roster. When someone takes a max contract, he was beneficial for us. Like, get in there, pass. Like, you know what I mean? So, like, when I signed to come there, you know, I'm thinking, like,

oh, this is perfect. Like, another big guard that can get into a lane and loves to pass. Like, how many more open shots am I going to get? And then when you decide, like, so the team doesn't get anything from that. I'm not playing. So now you got to start from, like, minus 33 million. Like, that's tough. And everybody knows, like, he wasn't just getting traded head up.

You know what I mean? So now when you're thinking about stuff you can't control, you out there, like, damn, like, am I playing too well? Like, am I going to get attached on to him to get these ass? Then you Twitter the worst thing because, you know, you going to Sacramento or you going to Detroit or you going to this. You know what I mean? You like, dang, I just got here. Like, I'm just getting acclimated.

And then when you trade for someone, you know, as dynamic and prolific as James Harden, I mean, you got to, like, change the way you do things because, like, he has to fit, you know, what you're doing. So we didn't have enough time to really get that rolling. And I think this year we've had time to, like, build chemistry and see what we like and what we can be better at. And it obviously took us a little bit, but I think when y'all watch, you can see glimpses of like, oh damn, they for real. And then there's other times where you're like, alright, they still got some shit to figure out before they...

Y'all a really good team, bro. I hate that Tyrese got hurt. He's a dog. He hit 25 in the first half. I think that little injury kind of set him back a little bit. Yeah. I mean, I think when you play with, and you have that much athleticism

and you have something like that mentally, I mean, you would know I've never, I don't move fast enough to hurt myself, knock on wood. But yeah, for sure. And then, you know, the adjustment of coming off the bench, but now he started and I think he's averaging like 28 per game. Yeah, I'm saying, like, I know y'all went through that little moment when he got hurt the first time, when he got hurt.

And it was like, damn. Because James was out too, I think. Yeah, James. And was it Joel for a little bit too with his knee or something? Yeah, we was fighting. I remember we was down in Charlotte and lost to them. Damn, shout out to the Charlotte Hornets. I can't wait till y'all get like,

y'all starting to get everybody back in school brother. But yeah, no. How you like playing with my dog, PJ? Shout out to PJ. Oh man, PJ Tucker, man. He's gotta be top three, top two teammates of all time. Oh, I swear to God. Like just, if you going to war,

you want that guy on your team, and he's one of the best dudes ever. Yeah, he's super cool. Shout out to PJ, man. You already know. Yeah, he's super cool. You, like, he's like the prototype of your game. No, 100%.

Yeah, so, like, when you look at a player, you'd be like, okay, can he be PJ Tucker? Yeah. And that's what you probably. No, for sure. Or before that, it was like Jared Dud P.J. Tucker? Yeah. And that's what you probably. Nah, for sure. Or before that, it was like Jared Dudley. Yeah. You know what I mean?

J. Dud. Yeah. See how long P.J. played? What's his, like, 16? Bro, he's 38. Oh, he old as fuck. But I'm saying, like, what's his, like, 16, 17 years? Yeah, bro.

Yeah, like, nah, he doing it right. And that's the fire thing, like you said, like, to see somebody create an avenue and see somebody flourish, and it's just like, I can keep doing this another 10 years because what I do is still important. Right. No, I think the coolest part is, like, I think as an OG, like, he sees people that are coming up in his shoes and then, like, you know, kind of school you to the game.

And I know this is year seven for me, but I still have a lot to learn. You know, he's won a championship. He's been to the mountaintop. So, you know, telling me on how to prepare for certain games or what to do leading up to the playoffs, he's huge. He's a huge contributor on our team. So pause. That was crazy.

I was about to be like, wow. That'd be the only thing. He's wilder today. I don't know what he's on today. Yeah, we're immature over here. We're not going to grow about this shit. I was going to ask, you got to be his teammate to realize

how many fucking shoes PJ has. No. Even then, you have no idea. Y'all claws are stuck. I thought it was bad. So he has his locker in the practice facility, and then he has a whole area. It's got to be 10 by 10 with shoes on shoes like this.

But his whole locker's filled. Then you've got the locker room at the arena that got a whole other locker with just the boxes of some more shoes. And then he got a whole... Think about them laundry buckets. He got them and just shoes, whatever. And then he got like a whole, like think about them laundry buckets. He got them and just shoes, like whatever. And then there's the back equipment room.

It's crazy. People have told me he has like a house, but whenever you bring it up to him, he'd be like, Oh, I've been there. It's crazy. I've been there. He'd be like,

these ones, I got these ones like 12 years ago. I might wear it every night. I'm like, nah, I ain't gonna wear them. He switches shoes like four or five times. He has like two, you know, the 16 shoe bag.

He got like two of those. On the road. On the road. He don't play. You got to like be his teammate to realize that shit. You can't explain it to people. People be looking at me like I'm crazy when I tell the story. Like, man, this nigga got hella shoes.

And you got kicks. And the crazy part is this dude got kicks and will wear the same shoes the whole year. Oh, I know. Them same black Kobe's he wore. It was sponsored by Adidas. Put black tape over them. Oh.

That's a fact. Wait, wait. Tell the story? That was the reason I got in trouble. Tell the story. Who was it? Jimmy Butler got me in trouble. Damn.

Well, shit, I was wearing... I was sponsored by Adidas, and I put on some Kobe's, put tape all around them, black it out. So. And wore the same ones all year. How you do that? I don't know. How many times did you swap out shoes?

Man, probably like every three games. But you know, I got more weight, you know what I mean? So I wear out. You got to wear some black mid forces. That's the mini van. You got to have some good tread forces. That's the minivan. You got to have some good tread on them tires. Yeah, come on, man. You already wearing the low-cut socks, the no-show socks.

So you try to get him in the black mids? Nigga, look at my nigga's socks. I can't wear these in kick-in? That's your swag, bro. You don't never wear no-shows? Ashy ankles, I get it. Tell somebody the Hoopin' Black Miz is crazy. I'm just saying.

If somebody's wearing some low-top Air Forces, I am not going near them. They're ready to rumble. You know what I mean? That's like your boys. You just talked about Thabo Cephalos and Hoopin' Air Max 90s was insane. I don't know how he still had ankles. I played with him.

Post. The pause made it so much funnier. But I respect it. I respect it. But, yeah, he told me, because you remember he got beat by the cops. Yeah. So it's like, it's the only shoe that felt good on his ankle. You know, he had a crazy ankle.

It was crazy. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Damn. I mean, I guess I got to rock that back. I just thought he was just on that like the Air Max 90? Nah, he used to hoop in like KDs, Kobe's, and he was like, man, he's the only shoes my ankle can fit in.

Damn. Nah. Damn. If you seen Nick Walker towards you with Air Max 90s at night, that's damn like the Black Forces. He either going to ask for a change or try to up the blinky on you. But either way, you don't want the answer to what he about to ask you. What shoes do you hoop in though?

Me? Yeah. We're working on the sketches, though. We're going to get it after this podcast. You see the sketches. Holler at my boy. Right now, I hoop in the Giannis'. Okay.

Last year, I hooped in some PG's. I usually just find, Nike has like four or five shoes. I find one that fits, and I'll get them in all the color of the jersey, and then that's it. You ain't rocking the B shoes? He ain't plug you with the UAs? Uh-uh, don't do them UAs like that. He's had the same

shoe for three years. You can't really rock a big man's shoe because them look like school buses. And I love my dog Joel, but them shoes are... Respect it.

But that's how I felt about y'all a couple years ago. Y'all tried to bring the Ewings back. Y'all was all out of fucking pocket. I hated that notion. When I seen everybody wearing the Ewings... I got a bunch of Ewings upstairs. Jeff, you got heat, though, so I'm going to let you slide. Yeah, I got a bunch of Ewings upstairs.

I love the Ewings. This guy got every shoe. Nah, he slept on it. Ewings ain't bad. Man, stop it. What's better, the U.N. Zane or the Barclays? Barclays.

Talk about it, easily. Who even, as a big man, who got a cold shoe? Like, only person I can think of that's cold

at that time period that you would've wore was Shaq. I can't think of no other big. Barclays, C-Web. I'm talking about

Cinder's though. That white blue C-Web was crazy. Fire. Oh, Air Max Sensation is one of the fire shoes ever.

And Barclays, like, right below Penny as far as, like, signature-wise. And niggas don't talk about it. Barkley had that fire. Yeah. But damn. Not the Joel. See, you got Harden, too. He ain't going to swing the Ds.

Hey, teammates, show love, man. He got some cold shoes. Those are fire. Yeah, you got to switch PJ. What's the size of PJ wear? 15, 16? No, he's 14. Damn, that's how he be getting on the fucking brown samples

makes sense now yeah you gotta take some of his you gotta get none of his P.E. Kobe's that was a crazy pause I had to pause

that shit was nuts this guy's the worst you owe me we're immature nah what he usually leave them he's still here

what I mean he got them outside his locker. I'm plotting. Okay. I used to. Let me slide them. I ain't even wearing 14, but I got a couple of PE Kogies upstairs. Just for what side nigga threw it through.

I appreciate that nonetheless. Hey, he's throwing them out, man. Go ahead and slide them. Let me get these. All right, now we're about to put you on the clock, G. You know what I'm saying? We're going to ask you a couple of questions. You don't got to spend too long on it.

You know what I'm saying? Just tell us how you feel. We're going to do a top five. First off, we're going to start you on the clock, G. You know what I'm saying? We're going to ask you a couple questions. You don't got to spend too long on it. You know what I'm saying? Just tell us how you feel. We're going to do a top five. First off, we're going to start off with top five, your favorite players. Ooh, of all time? Yeah, you ain't got to put them in order, but it's who you fucking with. I definitely got to go with Michael Jordan. That's your top?

That's your go? Absolutely. I respect it. Yeah. Kobe, Braun. Since we in Indiana Larry Bird Oh you don't gotta do that Cause we in Indiana

Larry Legend I'm at four right You at four And Steph Curry I'm fucking with it Sorry KD KD would be in there

If I didn't have Larry Bird in there But I grew up in Boston So Ah damn you had the 33. And he drafted me to Indiana. So, you know. He got a special place. Yeah.

I respect that. What are you frustrated about? I'm not. You disgruntled. You been hustling and puffing over there. We get body language in the corner. You need some extra oxygen. Come on, man.

Talk to me. Oh, gee. Go ahead. What's next? He don't respect Indiana players. He don't like the Pacers. He says, fuck Larry Bird. Yes.

It's time to push it. Shout out to Larry. He faking it. He faking it all day. We can't record on Sundays no more. Bishop Greedly, he need to be depleted. Go ahead, man. All right.

So that's your top five for players. All right. Now I got top five cities. What's your top five cities? You done been around the NBA? What's your top five places to go out at night? I know how the road trips work. We ain't got to get into the tail, but you know what I'm saying?

Toronto is one. Shout out to Toronto. Miami is two. Hey. This don't go in any order. These three can go. Do your thing. Get your shit off.

New York, L.A.,man New York, LA, Phoenix. Rob Markman Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got a nice top five. So, hey. I'm probably going to throw Atlanta in there for me. Rob Markman Yeah.

Rob Markman Product placement. Yeah. Rob Markman I haven't been able to really experience Atlanta thoroughly because we've either been on a back-to-back. We haven't really had three, four days in Atlanta, but I've heard great things. Rob Markman Do y'all be shitty when y'all be having them fire-ass cities and they be on a back-to-back. We haven't really had like three, four days in Atlanta, but I've heard great things. Do y'all be shitty when y'all be having them far-ass cities

and they be on a back-to-back? Ooh. I hate when I used to play in Minnesota and we used to leave fucking Atlanta so fast. I'm like, fuck. I can only imagine

because like, I know y'all probably, we can't talk on it too much, but can y'all take a letter fly or is that like front of the phone? Like, I know you got to travel with the same, but... I ain't paying nothing when you ride free like that. What?

You don't pay for a charter when you already got a charter? No way. It make no sense. But there are some people that do that. Shout out to the exceptions. We know those. They check different. He said...

They check different. He looked around and said, we don't know who that is. Yeah, they check different. All right. So, you know what I'm saying? Top five cities. So, we ain. All right. So, you know what I'm saying? Top five cities. So, we ain't going to talk about it, you know what I'm saying,

in the offseason. But, you know, when it comes to mine, as far as what you might do, what you think about doing, you can move in on this too. How is it when you, like, think about, all right, cool.

I might want to fuck with this or I'm looking throughout the season, like, hey, this look cool. Like, I wonder how I feel with this. Now it's more open. You got boys, like you said, back then you had to just deal with whatever the fuck they said.

Now y'all can get on the Twitter and be but like i'll fuck with this or he going crazy over here is that looked upon your decisions when you're kind of thinking about what you might do or just like i'm just gonna keep in the back of my head just in case it becomes relevant because what a lot of fans don't know is talk is all the time obviously no tampering and shit but you know your agents do that shit for you oh like we're joining teams or not even joining teams like you know i wouldn't be mad at this like nothing to incriminate but just like look at the situation Rob Markman, the man, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man.

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Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Mark Yeah, don't be stupid. Yeah, but I think guys talk over the summer of what they want to do. I'm sure there's some recruiting going on right now. We'll just have to wait and see what two years from now happens. Yes, sir. I'm sure there'll be some crazy stuff going on. I just hate the bullshit. They'll be like, look, y'all, just because athletes make good money compared to most

people, it's still a job. If I'm about to transfer a job, hey, who over there? What y'all got going on? What y'all PTO like? Your boss cool? They fucking with you? Everybody does that. It's just now that it's just like, hey, we can do this shit too.

Quit trying to put us in the box like we weird. Like, this is literally our job. I got a question for you. You know what I'm saying? Since you was his vet. As far as his trajectory-wise, what do you think is the next step in his game that you see going crazy for him? Dumping on people.

You going baseline on boys? Yeah, he never going to dunk. How many ducks you got? I might have under 10. How many ducks you got? Being on the other side of the spectrum now, like being a player now, working in the office, G is one of those guys that you spot out. Like, oh, man, he can help our team be a better player, a better team, a better ball club.

Because he does the little things. Obviously, he can shoot the ball. So, he knows what he has to do. You just got to perfect those. Right. I always tell people, do what you do best. Don't start trying to do shit, like trying to dunk on niggas. That ain't his shit.

But you keep hitting them quarter three, he going to walk away. Damn. Well, well paid, man. That's hard, hard man get to Brisbane and all tour go off that's a lot of people say like fuck I mean being a star

obviously is a cool thing but if you like you said your situation you came in regrinded rebuilt yourself to the point to where now you gonna have

you know what I'm saying longevity in the league you're doing everything you wanna do the right way and that's fire as fuck to me cause a lot of people be in situations

they still like you said you're a 7 shit you're 8 they might have to figure some shit out in a whole situation now you in a situation your team contended it's lit and before we get out of here how was the plan for doc i always wonder how this plan for doc rivers yeah no doc is you know he's a motivator man i mean

obviously he's one of the the best coaches to ever you know coach um and he does a great job of just motivating this group and he And he's had so much experience, so he's pretty much seen everything in the game. So the fact that I've been able to play under him for two years has been a super great experience for me, and it's allowed me to grow

as a player. But I think the coolest part is he actually instills confidence, where some coaches wouldn't do that. That's important. And it don't matter about X's and O's. You're going to go out there motivated. He got some of the best pre-game, halftime, post-game switches where you're like,

all right, I'll run through a wall for this dude. He used to be in my head because I still hate on Doc Rivers a little bit. It's only because I hate that Boston team won a championship. It's really not on Doc. It's just I hate that team as a whole. Like, I love Rondo. He's one of my favorite players.

But that team, I hate that. You didn't like KG? Yeah, KG was cold. Ray Allen was cold. But Par Pierce was cold. But together, I hated them. I hated them. And I hate when I be hearing them talking.

I'm like, man, all right, y'all got a chip, man. But y'all got an input on everything. It's always an O.A. Celtic with an input on everything on social media. I'm like, yo, y'all can cut that shit out, man. Is that okay to be here? I can't hit on Doc Rivers no more? I got to let it slide. I mean, G just spoke highly of my name.

I don't got to say nothing. He did speak highly of my name. I ain't talking about Doc. I'm just saying me. I got to let the hate go. Hey, you a grown man. You can do whatever you want. But just know, this is a fucking current player.

He's saying great things about Doc. So I'll fuck with that. That means I got to keep the smut going by myself then. Fuck it. I'll take it all. But hey, we're about to get up out of here, G. Appreciate you sliding with me, my boy, man. Check my boy out.

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