Club Shay Shay - 2024 Best of Club 520: Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, Bulls MVP season, scoring 50 with T'Wolves

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

To end the year we're throwing back to some of our biggest Club 520 interviews of the season! In this exclusive episode, Jeff Teague and the guys sit down with Derrick Rose for his first appearance since announcing his retirement from the NBA after his career with the Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks, and more. Jeff and D-Rose talk about playing against each other in AAU basketball as kids, becoming the youngest MVP in NBA history, and being teammates on the Minnesota Timberwolves. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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see dkng.co slash FT Ball. NFL Plus premium offer available only to new and former NFL Plus subscribers. Additional NFL Plus premium terms at nfl.com slash terms. All right, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm gonna host, my name is DJ Wells. We got a legend, legend, legend,

legend in the building, class of 07. Crazy how it all lined up. We here for a reason. We're gonna introduce him last though. To my far left, we got my dog, Bishop E. Hinn out the Prillies. How you doing, Nasty? Cool, Nasty, I'm back, baby.

Let's get to it. Yeah, you got your one PTO day here. I appreciate the shout out to B. Swift, legend, holding it down for 42 Doug, my dog, him, but I'm glad you pulled back up to work, my boy. I'm back, I'm back, let's get to it, baby. Now D-Roy, you know what I'm saying, I know you've been a lot of places,

especially from the shot, those shoes over here, you see the black forces with the white laces, when you at the crib and you see those, what's the first thing that come to your mind? For sure you jacking. Jacking something. Watch out, bro. I don't steal, I heal.

You can hide your wallet. Hide your wallet. The white lace is me hiding your wallet, it's crazy. Nah, fuck you. So y'all calling me a scammer. I mean, you said it. You showing it. You always talk about the Nigerians,

you might be a lineage on the look. You're a bastard, though. To my right, my dog, young Nacho, young Tig, how you doing, man? I'm chilling, man. I'm geeked. Y'all know how I feel about 07. And we got my dog in the building.

It's about to be a great night. I'm gonna let you do the honors and introduce me, but I'm out here. Listen, it's very real to everybody. We had that one person on our list, unanimously we started Spock as like who we wanted on this show. It was this man right here,

legend, icon, youngest MVP, one of the best to do it. Your favorite Hooper's favorite Hooper, we got D-Rose, Derrick Rose in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, big dog. Love, man. Love, man. Love the show. I have to pull up, Midwest shit, you know what I'm saying?

You know what it is? Hey listen, like I said, bro, we all be fanning down over different stuff, but when we found out that you rocked with the show, bro that meant a lot to us both, for real, for real bro. Yeah, man, of course me, my son, and my team, Rob Randall and Maddie, they told me about it. Shout out to the squad.

Of course, right when the idea came up, I had to pull up, and with it being so close to Chicago, so. Yeah, the niggas got you a caterer, bro. Now listen. Niggas door dash to beat us. What's up? What's up? Hey, I usually hooter, I usually hooter somebody some, but.

I expect that. Nah, we was like, we got D-Wrek like freaking, I told him, boy, you might be a caterer for this boy. You're a Chef Paul, shout out to Chef Paul. Y'all went crazy for this episode, man I gotta say something before we really start but my dog Mike. All right, Mike is our guy behind the scenes, but For they know freaky Mike the podcast family. No more. He told me I Don't get excited about too many guests, bro I'm hyped. I said, what?

Freaky Mike. And he's put on the whole outfit today. Look, he done took his boot off. He put the fresh shoes on. I said, man. I ain't saying he got the DJs on. He's hollering. Why he's hollering?

Oh, no. I'll tell you what he never put on DJs in an episode. He got an outfit on. He's wilding. You different. I respect that. Damn. You need to say that nigga some roses. What the fuck?

What the fuck? What the fuck? No man, shout out to Freaky Mike for holding it down man. But listen man, we are honored that you are here man. Man, we just gotta start with it. Fuck my hat fell over. This is crazy man. I wanna say man, shout out to you and the team man.

One of the best rollouts I have ever seen man. Wow. For real, for real, just the way that you went through everything and we was joking with Tig about this. We were just like, D-Rose, that's your legend. He the only person who can send another dude roses and nobody think nothing else of it. Like ain't nobody having questions.

Everybody was like, hey, what's up with that? He was like, nah, that's D-Rose, bro. It's a reason for that. I'm glad it came with a note. You got a lot of motherfuckers in trouble. I was nervous as hell at the crib. So it's crazy because the week before I had bought my wife some roses and put them on there, so they died or whatever.

So she sent me a picture of them and I'm like, damn she didn't buy her own roses, I fucking know. So I was like, I would have got them. She was like, full reason, no. I was like, oh. So it was vibe. It was love, bruh. Me and my team, we decided to just come up

with something different, you know? We did that within two weeks. Randall and Maddie, Nour- Shout out to Randall and Maddie. Stand up late, going over shit to the day before, stand up to three o'clock in the morning to send out the post, making sure you dot your I's, cross your T's. Yeah.

But this whole shit was about like just giving back or just flipping everything on his head where normally when you do do something like this, you receive the flowers, but I didn't get here by myself. You know what I'm saying? I got here with Randall. I've been knowing him since sixth grade, I've been knowing Matty since, for 10 plus years now, and my team is the same thing, sixth grade, and that's something

that we built, we're building an empire right now, but just doing it the right way, trying to do it with class, and just showing a lot of love and support to all the fans. That's love, man, that's love. We definitely appreciate that. I know, for you, you can speak on this, you know what I'm saying?

Class of 07, you know what I'm saying, careers. When you knew what the time was, how was that moment when you was like, all right, you know what, I'm gonna see what the other side might be for a second. See, my retirement was a little different. It was kind of because of injury, but I just knew it was my time was up.

I wanted to ask you, like, when did you know you were done playing? Like what made you feel like, yeah, I'm gonna hang it up. Cause I feel like to me watching you annoying you, I'm like, man, he could play forever. I just think you had that ability. I just wonder like, what made you wanna hang it up? Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bruh.

But what I was just telling you in the room or telling you all in the room about like, like, give me your all to your kid like my younger kids. They don't mention the game at all. They don't say they don't ask about are we going to the game? They don't say nothing. So with PJ, I have to talk to him a little bit different. So before I even talked to everybody, we in the room, it's me and him just talking. And before then, I'm thinking the whole time,

I think I'm gonna have this conversation with him, right? So we talking and he brings up Kyan and we was just in the room talking about metal. So I'm like, all right, it's time. I'm like, come downstairs, he come downstairs. I'm like, bro, how you think he got better? He was like, he working out with a trainer. I'm like, who else in the gym?

He's his dad, like his dad, huh? His dad president. I'm like, you think Melo got nothing to do with that? He was like, yeah. But after I kept talking, at first when I told him, of course, devastated, hurt, but after I kept talking to him, he was excited because he seemed like, man,

now I get this individual time with my dad and like my son, he know exactly where he's at right now. Like this moment, he knows exactly where he's at. So for me to tell him that and for him to be like sad at first, then be excited. And since that day has been unbeloved, but I knew right. Like sometimes since since like last year, I'm going through it. You know, you go through the rehabs. You're the only one that's going through that shit, bro.

Like nobody else, your family members, nobody else's staff, nobody going through it but you. So I'm like, man, you have the question of like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, giving my all, like, it's cool, but I want to be able to elevate to show growth. And that's one of the reasons why I came on here, because I wanted to like tell my stories and to be able to articulate myself and show people the growth from when I first came to the league to now with me being a grown ass man. That's real, bro.

And like you said, like that, the influence, especially at this age, is so impressionable with kids growing up so fast, being exposed to so much. And we were talking like in the room, like, you know what I'm saying, shout out to Pop T, like having y'all in the gym early on, having like you said, it does make a difference. No, it facts. But I wanted to make sure that we clarified that like you decided to retire,

not that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you wanna speak on it. Yeah, I mean, even with that, I really didn't want to speak on it, but people thought that, like, they weighed me. That's just a process of them trying to, I guess, do business or figure out the numbers on the back end, which that has nothing to do with me.

But what I can control is what I did. I reached out to Zach Pryor. I reached out to, my team reached out to everyone Pryor and told them, reached out to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord. And yeah, just doing good business. That's something that I always did throughout my whole career. Even though I fucked up in the beginning

by having some lessons I had to learn, I got through that. And I'm always being optimistic, bro. As long as I got my breath, bro, I'm always gonna give my, I know I got a chance and I feel that way about anybody around me. So like, yeah, give my all and you know, just paying attention to where I'm at in this time.

For sure. Now listen, man, we gonna talk about the career. We gotta talk about the first time y'all met. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's been ways, you know what I'm saying? We gotta talk about that. I'll be waiting for this.

He's going like 30. Quick, quick 30. Man, listen, first time I met him, right, this before I was even like getting 30, cause I did kill him. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna get to that, I'm gonna get to that. But I seen him at eighth, I will get to that.

But I seen him at eighth grade, going to eighth grade. He played for a team called Ferrari. And it was a team called Houston Hoops. We in a gas station. And they like, you good, but as they just talking to us, like, he not, you nice, this dude nice, but you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like, who that?

And your name, like, your name sound fake. Like Derrick Rose, like, who that? And your name, like your name sound fake. Like Derrick Rose, like you don't hear nobody last name Rose, like instead of Jalen Rose. I was like, he cold, they like, they calling D Rose, he cold. So we go to the game, y'all happen to be playing the team from Memphis. It was this Memphis magic, boom.

You remember that, right? Yeah, Memphis magic. That's crazy, I remember that, I do. And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw you alive, and you ain't dunking, you just finger-rolled it in. And I said, oh shit, nah, ain't nobody else doing that. And they had one dude, they might have beat y'all.

They did. Yeah, I was gonna say, they might have beat y'all. They had one dude that was cooking, I can't remember his name. The Georgia. Georgia Tech. I forgot his name. Mo Miller. Yeah, I'm about to say they might have beat y'all. They had one dude that was cooking, I can't remember his name. Oh, he went to Georgia. Georgia Tech. I forgot his name. Mo Miller.

Yeah, Mo. There you go. Yes. He had a good game. He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I was like, yeah, that nigga different. Like this nigga killin'. But that nigga moving faster, jumping higher than everybody.

My dad was like, we gonna be reading about him. You know how my dad is, yo, man, he gonna be reading about him. He ain't supposed to be on this team. He, I was like, man, he older. This nigga younger than me. This nigga reclass. This nigga out the reclass.

I'm like, this nigga younger than me. I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo, you a couple. I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo, you a couple months older than him. What the fuck? Happy belated too, bud. Yeah, for sure. For sure. About that way about Mike, bro.

And USA, we played 16 or 17 USA in Memphis. He my roommate. I had to look at his ID. His ID was on the table, right? He left the room. I'm like, he's so good, bro. I gotta see if you're real. I looked at his ID, bro.

He was younger. I'm like, bro, how the fuck am I younger? Mike who? Mike Beasley. He was younger than us, bro. He was cold, bro. I'm like, how the fuck is you this cold? Shout out to Mike, man.

Please keep your head up nigga. Yeah, facts. Nah, that's when I first met, he played for four hours. Not met him, but that's the first time I seen him. Yeah, but my first time I played against you, so we had Tone sticking you, you had Braze then. You had Braze. Oh shit, shit going on.

And I had 30 bruh, and Tone, our our coach, Tone, the guy that was sticking you, his dad was the coach and he would not get Tone off of him. So we like, bruh, this whole game, Jeff went him out, bruh. Hitting three, step back, Tone, lateral movement fucked up, you can't see shit. Check out all that. Bruh, by the end, did we beat y'all?

We ended up beating them, but he had a great game. And I'm like, bro, I got to watch, dude, bro. But in our class, when you ran up against niggas like that, you knew, like, it challenged you in a way though, bro. When like I was, when we was talking in the room about Oja, when I seen him for the first time, brother, when like I was, when we was talking in the room about OJ. Yes, sir. When I see him for the first time, brother, that he changed my whole perspective of the game and like made me feel like I wasn't working hard enough.

And my whole chase, mother shit was like chasing him. So yeah, oh nigga, you put that battery in my back for sure. Nah, that's crazy. Seven shots of juice. Juice for sure. Nah, that nigga was different crazy. It's juice. Juice for sure. Nah, that nigga was different. I'll never forget when y'all got to,

cause we went to ABCD that year, or last year, and you had got hurt. But the matchup, you know, I don't forget shit. I don't forget shit. The matchup was y'all. I'm from Indiana, so I know, I seen you. I'm like, oh, they don't know this nigga about to kill that nigga.

So I'm like rooting. It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you, but I'm I seen you. I'm like, oh, they don't know this nigga about to kill that nigga. So I'm like rooting. It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you, but I'm rooting for you. Like kill him, and you get hurt. So everybody like, oh, he hurt, he scared, he scared. Then I see y'all in Vegas. I'm like, yeah, that nigga ain't scared. Like, that nigga's tripping.

And they was going at it, bro. They was having a game. It was one of the best games I seen him and Eric against OJ and Bill. That shit was crazy. We chased him, bro. We used to go to tournaments lookin' for him. Like, really chased OJ, my nigga.

That could be a whole chapter of my shit. Chasin', goin' to tournaments, stayin' the game. But it's us too, but our coaches on bullshit too. Like, yeah, nigga, we here. But we here, we on the same shit. I'm quiet, of course, I'm in the cut, but I coaches on bullshit too. Like yeah, nigga, we here. Like we here, we on the same shit. I'm quiet, of course, I'm in the cut, but I'm on that too, nigga. Like we wanted that matchup,

especially since we played them like in seven or eight. And he was on a whole nother level. And I never forgot that. Like that's my baseline right there. Like I went back to Shaw, I stayed in the gym, my nigga. I think my junior year we was close to playing them, but Tyreek and all them, it was in some tournament and the shit end up not happening.

And that Vegas one, and we had EJ, I'm like, oh. Come on, nigga. I was playing, I had nobody else that was really like a D1 player at that time on my team like that. So he had three or four guys, but to like play against him in Vegas on that stage and to know that everybody, like the alarms and shit was going, that shit was nuts, bro.

This shit was crazy. Yeah, and you said we talk about, we was talking about 07, him and EJ, that's the craziest back quarter. We played them in a fucking, that's crazy. How did you feel about him joining the team? Would you like, I love my niggas but finally. I couldn't think of anything.

Like we played, I played on the team with four little winners bro. We won, even though we was undersized and all that, we won a lot of games. So when we got him, they like, bruh. We won, even though we was undersized and all that, we won a lot of games. So when we got him, they like, hell yeah. We got another dude that can go. And EJ, we needed that because I was scoring, my brother in high school, I played more organized shit.

I was playing a three, like my freshman year, so I already had a ball in my hands because my man right there, Ran, he was the point. That Ran push you to the three? Yeah, Ran, you had juice, my nigga. He had these ropes and small footwork. Nah, that thing had to hoop two. We had like a system, so like even when I came in,

I played JV because the head coach was like, nah, like you gonna listen, you gonna abide by the rules, you ain't even bigger than the system. And I went to the school only because Rekha knew what went there. So I'm like, all right, but we won. And I fucked around with the niggas. So I'm like, all right, this is love.

We winning and we low key, we'll beat y'all varsity niggas anyway. Low key, if y'all put it, when we used to practice and shit, that's how we low key. We'll beat y'all varsity niggas anyway. Low key if y'all put it. When we used to practice and shit, that's how we felt. So it was all love. But the system was the big man get majority of the shots and everybody else fine with whatever they gotta do. Like find your way throughout the game.

Until like my brother started coaching and he like, man, I'm gonna put you at the point. That was like my sophomore, junior year put me at the point. That was like my sophomore, junior year. Put me at the point. I started going back to school and they started to like, let me play with the ball a little bit more. So I'm like, I'm running up the court. I don't got to play in the system,

nor am I getting lobs and all that. Now I'm pushing the point and everybody else following me. So it opened up my game for real. But at that school, it was strictly just, but I fucked with it though, because Simeon groomed me into like all of the guys that went there groomed this into like, really being young man learning, like discipline, learning that you just can't fuck off even though we were like, knuckleheads and all that shit. But like knowing that man, we have a bond that's bigger than just this basketball shit.

And that's something that we hold on to this day. We have picnics to this day at our school. And that's rare for like a public school to still be having picnics going on and all that shit. What made you choose 25 SMEI? Ben Wilson. I didn't choose it. All this shit chose me, bruh.

That's my everything that I've ever been in. I lived in the unknown my whole life. All this shit just came to me. I never wanted none of this. Fame, none of that. Even hooping, my basketball dream. I didn't know about salaries and none of that until like my sophomore year it clicked.

Like that may sound crazy. Damn, nigga, think about that. Yo, sophomore year it clicked like, damn, I could change my family life with this. All the way until my sophomore year, I had just a pure love for the game. I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at NBA games like that.

I ain't look at niggas outside. I'm a hoop in, I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure love. Sophomore year hit, I'm like, damn, I'm sitting in the room. I'm arguing with my mom at the time and all that. You know, mom got that little shit in high school. You look for entertainment. And I'm arguing with her, then it clicked.

I could change this shit if I go to the league early, I'm arguing with her, then it clicked. Like, man, I could change this shit if I go to the league early. I'm looking at KD now. I'm like, if KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule. Yeah. Changed the rule. I'm like, damn, change the rules.

So I'm like, damn, I got to do a year. I had to do the year, but I was, I didn't pay attention to none of that shit until my sophomore year. What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pinnock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL.

We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull pull it out Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything We break it down stats analytics. And of course Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well Listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the post-season run.

Hey everyone, I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers. And on our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives

between the juggle of being athletes, raising children and all the messiness in between. We're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice. Like FIFA World Cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was going to be. And Peloton instructor and Ratchet Mom Club founder, Kirsten Ferguson.

And I remember going in there hot mess. So listen to Moms Who Puck, a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg Podcasts, to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes, we dive into one global business story that matters.

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Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. to decide. and anything and everything that catches my attention. I am here to call it as I see it, and there's a whole lot of things catching my eyes these days. Here's a clip from one of my favorite episodes. You are not a real fighter. You will never be discussed anywhere in boxing history. Ever. Fake Paul. The movie is The Apprentice,

and the movie is about young Donald Trump and his apprentice, Roy Cohen, real character, obviously both real characters. It kind of has a Scarface vibe to it, which I thought was very interesting. Listen to the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Alex Kanczewicz. I'm the host of Big Technology Podcast, a longtime reporter and an on-air contributor to CNBC.

And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it. Asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. On Wednesdays, I feature interviews with top leaders

like Airbnb CEO, Brian Chesky. Well, I'm in the details. Let me just say this. I actually stay in the details of the product. And on Fridays, analysts Ron John Roy and I recap the week's news, looking at everything that's happened in the world of AI. That is an emoji red flag. I'm putting it up.

Three emoji red flags. They told me they're going to fix Siri. I dreamed. I dreamed. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, in meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology Podcast on the i iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Another rule that you help a lot of people get paid with, the Rose Rule. You're pioneering, my boy. Like you said, you look at that and now look at everybody else has been a fin for you.

Look, yeah, I mean that's that's one that uh That's the only thing I care about, even the wave or the vibration I'm in right now, like I call it DZ 720, like DZ Stanford. Don't forget about the zealous youth and zealous mean pursuit of a great cause or great energy. So don't forget about the use and pursue of a great cause. So like getting back. And I feel like that was one of our ways of like getting back. You know, like, like, like me and my team, not only my team, but the fans, because at that time, I'm, I'm doing this shit, but

I'm not knowing why I'm creating. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm, I'm not going out to clubs. I'm not going to dinners. I'm not doing your typical clubs. I'm not going to dinners. I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that you have to be a machine. I ain't enjoyed none of that, bruh, until like my fourth year.

So that rule was not only for me, it's for everybody, my nigga. That's all I'm saying. I'm like. You're like, before the views, could you explain that rule for him, so you know what I'm saying? Something about a lazy of followers who didn't pay attention so they know, you know what I'm saying? Some of our lazy followers who didn't pay attention to that rule, you know what I'm saying?

The rule is that you get 30% of the cup, meaning that you get an extra 30 to 40 million if you hit the benchmarks that's in your rookie year contract, so all-star team, any award, going to the all-Star game, those benchmarks will get you 30% more than a cup. And yeah, at that time I didn't know what I was doing, but I'm very grateful and very, very thankful

that the league allowed me to do that. Thanks. Good show. Jason, take them all them boys, first team, they thank you for the show. I'm first team, they think you for sure. I love Melo Bajor everybody. I see Jason Tatum told me that straight up. Fuck with D-Rose forever.

You remember he, you remember I told him, I'm like bro, he want an autograph. He want a jerk, bro, he was real like bro, D-Rose the greatest, bro. I was like, not to jump too far here, we still gotta talk about the rest of his high school and stuff, but like when people would see him when he was on a team together,

bro I used to tell him, like bro you have a cult following, this shit is crazy. Like and he would come out and he's so humble and chill and I just joke all day, I play too much. That's a fact. Yeah I play too much, I be like, yo, like y'all want my autograph and shit?

They'd just be like, who the fuck? I'd be like, damn, damn, fuck this shit, I'm right here. So the first time, we get back to the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like, all right, I'm messing with a different type of like, status. Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. We went out, you was in Minnesota, I begged you, we in Miami, I begged you to go out.

I'm like, come on man, you was on, you know how you step on the back of your shoes and shit. So you was standing on the back of your shoes, you like, man, nah, I can't go, bro. I'm like, nah, man, come on, man, please, please, man, come on, man, it's gonna be cool, ain't nobody gonna, man, we gonna cover you up or anything. You're like, nah, it ain't even that, bro,

I'm just telling y'all, I don't really like going out. Finally, you got tired,. You're like, no, it ain't even that, bro. I'm just telling y'all I don't really like going out. Finally you got tired and you're like, all right, I'ma go. We walk in there, we walk in the club, we walking in the beginning part, and somebody said, D-Rose? I said, shit. I swear to God, like 200 people came. I said, oh shit.

I looked at wig, I said, it's some shit. Hold on, we gonna get this guy a little nigga. Hold on, we get in the club. And the dude was like, damn, we just gonna put y'all back here. They just started standing outside the section. He looked at me, he was like, I'ma go. We was in that motherfucker 10 minutes.

I'm just gonna go. I was like, my fuck. So imagine that Brian won't, like it's, I'm like, my fault, boy. It's weird even doing this, so like putting myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying? Normally I typically wouldn't,

I wouldn't pod and nothing like that, but I fuck with y'all shit. And in order to grow, you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations. So like coming here or even talking, like y'all don't know how much this means to me. You know what I'm saying? Like being able to come in and express this shit

and express like just how I feel about where I'm at at this time. So I appreciate y'all niggas. Nah, likewise. Bro, we honored to have you here. Bye. Honored to have you here. I always use, anytime somebody playing the Pacers,

you know, this is a little off the radar. Oh, duh. And I be hitting nigg somebody playing the Pacers, and this is a little off the radar. And I be hitting niggas with the Ruby Rose, the Jalen Rose, the Rose your bitch use, whoever it for. So that's the, so I got a Rose real much. JT, if you want my autograph, I got you. What you say, you got a Rose?

How's it going? I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back.

I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back.

I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got your back. I got growing up. How was that first time I looked up a Minnesota man? It was love bro. I mean, let me talk to you. Nah, do you? It's your show, man.

We talk all the time. Fuck off. He talked all the time. Because, bro, everybody that probably met Jeff, no bullshit. They just know that he a good dude. And his energy that he bring to the locker room is, you can't compare it to nobody, bruh.

Like he, the vibration he bring, he's always talking shit, even though it may rub people different that didn't grow up that way. Niggas that grew up that way. You need that in the locker room. You need motherfuckers joking, playing, but when it's time to go, he was always ready. And I know you can hoop too though.

So just having them around, having Teebs fuck with him, having a cat. He used to fuck with cats so much. But all the shit that you were saying, motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful shit. You know what I'm saying? And when motherfuckers were scared to say it,

I'm new to the team, so I'm just trying to get the vibe on the team. You saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear. And people respected that. So it was always love just having Jeff around. It surprised me, too, when, like, you start coming over to the crib because, you know, niggas normally don't hang out with each other. Like, yeah, it's like on some fake shit.

So like having you start coming over, then you came over the night that, I don't believe in coincidences either, you came over the night that I had 50 in my brother's nose that my brother was in the kitchen drinking that shit. Nah. I mean, I don't know if y'all wanna talk about that right now. Hell yeah. I'm probably still gotta, yeah I will look at the tears.

Fuck you. He said, I was going to the TV. He like, I knew you could do it baby. I knew you. He said, that was, that was cocked to your teeth. He like, I knew you could do it, baby. I knew you could do it, it's crazy. Are you out of your mind? I'm out of my mind. Why y'all never with me?

I remember all that shit. Why y'all never with me? See what I'm saying? Why y'all never with me? Lay down at your knees. I can't as well. Why y'all never with me, man? Nah, but I'll be honest, that's a little later in the story

because you still got so many years, because he gave me a chance, I played against him, and I'm gonna speak on the Minnesota moment, but I wanna talk about the Bulls moment. For sure. When we played them in the playoffs. Yeah. And he spared me.

So before we get to the 50, I'm gonna tell you when he could've had 50 and I another time. Oh, you talking about that one get to the 50, I'm gonna tell you when he could've had 50 another time. In the playoffs, Mother's Day. And him in the first, I remember, forget bro, we having the first quarter, we going back and forth. It's a duel.

And I'm like, in my head, I'm out here dueling with the MVP, what the fuck am I doing? But I'm talking shit, it's the first game in Atlanta, so I'm like, yeah motherfucker. And he like, he ain't saying nothing. He just like, like looking at me, like I'm guarding. He go by, he dunk one time. I said, oh shit.

Crowd go, ooh. I'm like, damn Atlanta, y'all on the triple E. Like, what the fuck? Going back and forth, second quarter, we had like 13, 14, second quarter. I think I scored two points. He scored like another nine. I'm like, damn. Go to the another nine. I'm like, damn.

Go to the locker room. I'm like, Jamal, you can switch off on him. Jamal was like, hell no. You keep going. You're doing good, man. He's like, you're guarding them good. I'm like, they're out there to 30. They're like, don't worry about it.

Keep going, you're playing good. Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I ain't scoring no more. This motherfucker still going. They starting to blow us out. He gets what you had like 44? Yeah, 44. So it's like, what was it?

Five, six minutes left in the fourth. That's a fair, Maul said the same. I know what you, I mean I'll let you. That nigga looked at, I'll never forget. I'm like, I had like 21. I'm like looking at him. I'm still trying to guard him hard. And you know how a nigga kind of like, relax.

Like not tell you relax, but kind of like, it's over bro. The nigga kind of like, come, like, not tell you relax, but kinda like, it's over, bro. The nigga kinda like, come get me tips. I said, aw, fuck him. He go, I look at the scoreboard, I said, he ain't wanna get 50. Aw, fuck that was tips. I said, game four, it's up. No, fuck that, I was so mad.

I said, he spared me? Then I was like, I went to the locker room, and Smooth was like, man, you know, it's just one game, dog. I was like, nah, man, he damn near had 50. He was like, nigga, you think you can stop him? Nigga, you didn't even play this shit. I was like, you only playing because the nigga got hurt. Like, you did good, nigga, shut up.

I'm like, you right. Shout out to J.Smooth. That was a tough ass series. It was, but you spared me. Why you spared me? I didn't spare you, bruh. You know, at that time, I wasn't even thinking about, I won't be thinking about scoring like that.

I'll be really in the game, bruh. Like every, because my mindset was if I didn't score, like we was gonna fall back. So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that when I was playing. I just knew I had to affect the game in a positive way. This one I really was like, fuck you. You hit a floater, right?

I contested this shit out this motherfucker. I was playing hard as hell. Y'all know I don't play defense. I'm playing hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me. He hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bitch. I said. Hold on, he caught it out the net.

He caught it out the net. The waist. I said, I on, he caught it out the net. He caught it out the net. Luis, I said, yep, I saw he playing around. Now, this shit funny you hear, man. I'm a joke, he getting ready for Miami, okay. Cool, cool, I was hot. Like, I was 38 hot. My brother like, bro, you getting your chance all good. You ain't playing bad.

I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me, bro. Like, bro, he embarrassed everybody, he the MVP. Then I thought about it, I was like, you right, I'm like, bro he embarrassing me bro, like bro he embarrass everybody, he the MVP. Then I thought about it, I was like, you right, I'm good. I'm just trying to score, fuck this. Nah, but I remember that. That helped your career too though bro. Yeah, having a chance to compete against him bro, it helped me a lot, like just to even have some good moments

against him at that time, that helped my career. But I took that to say, I seen you could've got 50, then I seen you, get 50. So that's where I was going with him. I'm like, damn, I seen what he could've had 50. I was a part of that. And then to be a part of that moment, to see you actually get 50, and for you to say,

yeah, I'm going for it tonight. I'll never forget. You said, T, you playing tonight? I was like, nah, I ain't fucking with it. He said, oh, bet, I'm going for it. I said, what you going for? I started, I was like, what you going for? He's like, nah, I'm going for it.

I was like, what? He's like, I'm getting it, I'm getting 50. That's crazy. I said, damn. I went to Josh Chakot, he said, he said, you getting 50 tonight? I'm not even taking a shirt off my mouth there. He's like, he the Jemba one playing?

Yeah, nobody's playing. And I was like, damn, he gonna get 50. Rudy go bird nil, defensive player of the year, all that shit. I'm like, he gonna have to kill these niggas. Man, that first quarter, mind you, I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down. Ryan, I never forget Ryan was like, you can play.

Don't worry about that shit. Don't worry about this shit. This motherfucker killin'. And he just started going crazy in the whole game. And then Ryan was like, you can play. Don't worry about that shit. Don't worry about this shit. It's gonna kill you. And he just started going crazy in the whole game. Like we just watching and I'm just like, this dude is amazing. And it was like, you know, me playing before you got hurt and stuff.

I'm like, this is him. Like he always got this. And to see him going crazy, then you hit Rudy with the move, finished the lay, then it started getting emotional. Like, nigga, everybody on the team just like, damn, bro, he worked so hard. And I'm like, yeah, fuck that, we about to win the game.

Then he got emotional, and then I'm looking at the nigga, cause I know, I'm like, I fuck with this nigga every day, I'm like, no, this means some shit. Like, I start, fuck man, I'm a nigga, bro. I'm from the west side of the nap, bro. I ain't about to be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They see a motherfucker that hit me, I'm like, fuck, bye bye. Did the game go over?

I'm like, shit. I'm like, it's about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this, I'm gonna turn this motherfucker up. He do the interview, I ain't even hear it. But I remember he was emotional. I remember seeing it on TV. We're on back there, I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I record that shit, he walked in,

they throw the water on it, then I send it to your girl, like, this gotta be a moment y'all never forget. Like, that shit was hard. I was like, why that game though, Poo, why that game? Like, what made you, you know what I mean? I don't know, I just felt something, bro. Right when he told me he wasn't playing, I seen Jimmy wasn't playing, I'm like, all right.

That's what, it's just that opportunity. And every, every nigga in the league that's not playing wish they could have that opportunity. Facts. Everybody, bro. Shit, you look at niggas that's not in the league, you look at IT right now. Just give me that one chance.

I could go out there and like at least shoot 15 or 20 field goals and see what's going to happen. Yeah. Like, and when I, once I get rolling, you really going to see what's going to happen. You know what I'm saying? I just felt like that moment was like just my moment, especially going through everything that like I went through, went through

the little shit I was still going through like injuries. And yeah, like I said, bro, I'm just living in it, bro. Like the shit that be going on, I can't really explain because I'm in it, but all I could do is like prep myself for the moments. Like when I was in basketball, I was prepping myself for that moment. Now that I'm switching over to this,

like my shit gonna be like y'all shit one day, six, seven cameras and you know. You gonna do a pod? No, not a pod, but I'm trying to get into directing, bro. Oh yeah, shit gonna be better, no. But directing, telling like real stories. That's in the book, but I mean y'all will see. That's like everything that y'all saw though,

the commercial or whatever, that video. That's me, Maddie, and that's Randall. All of us came together, got that shit together along with Carlisle and Mark, along with the other guys that was a part of the team. But we created that moment. So y'all, prepping ourselves for something huge. For sure, we there to support y'all to the team as well.

Can I say one thing before we get back to the story? Cause this my nigga, I'm just hyped, I ain't gonna lie. But I'll never forget, this is when I was like, this nigga different, like, y'all know me, they know me. What you been saying? Nah, this is all good, it's good. They know I'm wild, like, y'all know me, I became a man in Atlanta.

So my perspective's a little different, like shit, I was going out, my team was going out, and everything, so when I came to Indiana, did I get to Minnesota, my mind's still like, man, all right, we had a good practice, we had some game, we hooked, but like, where we going? You know what I mean? So I remember one night, John Lucas called me. I'm like, I'm thinking Luke called me like, yo, where we going? You know what I mean? So I remember one night John Lucas called me.

I'm like, I'm thinking Luke called me like, yo, where we at? He called me like, man, you should come in the gym. I'm like, nigga, no. What you talking about? You talking about going to the gym? But I was like, bro, I ain't here for all that. He like, man, you tripping, bro.

Come here. I come in there and he like, he like text me like, D-Rose in here. And I come in, I remember it was your whole fam, you had your daughter in the stroller, your girl was sitting on the stroller and you was shootin'. And you had shot damn near 500 shots. And I remember, cause you had ended up hurting your elbow.

Yeah, so I'm like, how many shots this nigga shoot? J-Luke like, he gon' be ready shoot? J Luke like, he gon' be ready. He gon' be ready, and I'm like, and we about to play in the playoffs, we about to play at Houston. This one, you first came to the team, he like, he gon' be ready, on trip, he gon' be ready. I'm like, well shit, he shootin' 400 shots,

motherfucker, I'm gonna shoot 50 from the three. I said, get in the mug. So I'm laughin' and shit, I'm colder, I'm jokin' and shit, and we get in the playoffs, and I'm like, I'm going I get him. I said, getting him up. So I'm laughing and shit. I'm colder, I'm joking and shit. And we get in the playoffs and I'm like, I'm going to Tibbs like, man, this nigga gotta play. Like he was having, he get in the game, he kill him. I'm like, no, no, he gotta, come on, man. He gotta get in the game earlier.

Tibbs like, I know. Fuck. Like, who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Take him out. He like, how do I tell him? Like nigga, Tibbs is you. He'm like, I don't give a fuck. Take him out. He like, how do I tell him? My nigga, it's you. He's like, everybody, you know.

Then that nigga just start saying, fuck it. Come on. Derek, come on. I'm like, yeah. I watched this nigga build his stuff, bro. He was, that's fire. Then next year, what you shot, 40 from three? Like 40, but you assisted with that too though.

Right when I got to the team, you probably remember, I ate that shoot for that bread. Oh shit when I got to the team, you probably remember, hey that's you for that bread. Oh shit, I knew you had some money though. That's you for that bread. You ain't understand it though. When you like, the league ain't nothing but specialists. Right? So when you aren't labeled or shoot like that,

that shit can last for like a long time until you beat that shit up. You gotta beat that. You know what I'm saying? Allegations. Come on, man. So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana, they know how to shoot when they one years old.

Motherfuckers be teaching them they form, they in they crib. Like, just touch your elbow, all that. All y'all shots the same. Nigga, I have not one person growing up to tell me my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this shit out solely by myself.

No basketball camps, couldn't afford it. None of that, man. It's solely me being in the park by myself, testing out shit and like all that stick. Or, you know, after experimenting and that shit stuck. But so to like go to a team and to be cool with a motherfucker to be in a shooting game with them and don't take it personal if they beat you.

I'm that crazy. You know what I'm saying? But it takes to go one on one or to challenge a motherfucker and to push yourself and practice when you ain't know nothing about it. I'm shooting with you, you ain't know nothing about it. I'm shooting with you, you don't know that I'm feeling this way at all.

You get what I'm saying? He's fucking around, shooting, playing, talking to people. I'm trying to make every motherfucker shoot. I'm gonna teach your ass. Show your ass. He's a secret. I'm gonna show your ass I'm in 40 this year. I'm about to stop shooting

because I'm like, this nigga is starting to beat me, man. What the fuck? Are you quitting? I'm not quitting, but he was taking it light because he planned. He always planned and prohibited tears when T-Hill, all right, all right, but if T-Hill ain't on that, he ain't on that.

He planned. That's the story of my life. I swear to God, bro. So like to actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter, I took pride in that. Even though you didn't know about this. But now I seen it. Then when the next year, I never forget,

I started, like we started starting together at the beginning of the year. And I'm like, I'm going on fast work. I'm throwing the ball to him in the corner and he firing and I'm like, this nigga really a shooter. Like he running the lane, mind you. Like nigga, he the MVP, he great with the ball.

Like I should be running the lane, nigga. He like, get it, get it, get it. Taking off, running to the corner and firing threes. And I'm laughing. I'm like, this nigga a shooter. Like what, this nigga spotting up 40, shooting 40 from the three. And I'll never forget, I was like,

nigga you shooting 40. He was like, you know, he a student of the game. Like nigga, you gotta be able to from the three, and I'll never forget, I was like, nigga, you shootin' 40, he was like, you know, he a student of the game, he like, nigga, you gotta be able to shoot the three, man. They payin' niggas to shoot the three. And I remember, shootin' was sweet. Mm-hmm, he was like, I remember everything, bro. He was like, I'ma shoot 40, and he was like, I'ma go in and get that bag, bro,

then I'm done. Yes, sir. And I was like, nah, you gon' leave? Like, I'm in my head, like, I'm gonna go in and get that bag, bro. Then I'm done. And I was like, nah, you gonna leave? I'm in my head like, he about to leave Minnesota cause I ain't the way he's starting over me. I said, for some niggas at the time. Niggas was telling me in the crowd, get him out the game, put Derek in.

I'm like, damn, that's why niggas was here. Why y'all gotta yell me like that? So, they're into that thing and point it out. They're like, what? That nigga brought me back 44 matches. It got so bad, my nigga. I started telling niggas like, do you wanna start?

Cause this shit is easier than anything. I just wanna come off the bench, bro. Nigga, check out how I do it right off the bat. Nigga, what? But I give him credit. Nigga, I'll never forget he told me like, and then we gotta get back to where it started. But then he told me, he was like,

T, you gotta find your niche, cause nigga, you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time. Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need somebody to kill off the bench. They gonna find their new roll. And I never, he did not wanna start. No.

I remember I went to Tibbs, I said, TIBS. I am sick of hearing these motherfuckers. Will you start him? And he was like, who am I gonna start him over? I'm like, nigga, me. He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench.

He was like, no, no. And I was like, we'll start him together. He was like, I could do that. Who we take out and we start trying to figure it out or whatever, but I just remember when you said that. So when you left, I went to Ryan, I said, I wanna come off the bench. Cause I was like, I'm about to do exactly what he did.

I was like, I wanna come off the bench. Cause you told me like, bro, we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career, bro. You gotta figure it out. And we about to build these new roads. So I was like, I'm about to take his role. And I started doing everything he did. I started stretching, I didn't do none of that shit.

Bone roller, ball and shit, I'm like, that nigga, he figured it out. Fuck that, I'm doing that. Shit didn't quite work out. But it's... I seen my old videos. Yeah, it was too late by then, nigga. Your whole body was broke down.

Man, I was a Monte Carlo by then. What, what? So I had... Your knee and that was it? Yeah, well I had bad ankles. I had. Your knee and that was it? Yeah, well I had bad ankles. I had surgery on my ankle. But then I had, my patella was gone.

I ain't got no, I'm bone on bone now. It's over with. It's over with. And now the ADA ain't worth a quarter, then. I'm a nigga joke. Hold on, it was gone last year? It was gone my last year in Minnesota. So I was bone on bone, but I was just playing.

And then the last piece of my patella tour when I was in Milwaukee. It was over with. Nah, that bone on bone, that's something different. It was over with. It was over with once you go there. For sure. You think he was doing that?

It's Wes, huh? Yeah, I don't know how he doing that. How are you doing that? He different, bro. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, well listen, you had so many crazy accomplishments, man, we gotta speak on some, man.

Obviously we gotta start with one of the crazy ones, MVP, youngest MVP ever, having one of the craziest seasons at the NBA in a conference where LeBron James was like, how was that season for you? Cause obviously, you know what I'm saying? You came in the league going crazy. How crazy was that particular season for you, bro?

It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember at that time, my whole mindset was like, keep it moving. So, you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you would cherish some of the days a little bit more like me looking in the past and shit. But what I was telling you'all at that time, I didn't enjoy anything, bruh.

I didn't go out to eat with my family or friends like that. No movies like that, none of that, bruh. No concerts because I was totally locked in to thinking that I had to follow what like Kobe was doing. Like thinking Kobe ass was not enjoying themselves, not going on vacays, not doing any of that. So I felt tricked like in a way whenever I, at the time I felt that way.

Like my fourth year I ended up going to the Philippines with him, I saw him like relaxed. I'm like, oh you motherfucker was tricking me this whole time, I dedicated three years, three years of thinking you didn't do shit, bro. And to see you actually out here just chilling, like it kind of fucked me up, but like I couldn't take it personally

because he didn't even know I was admiring him like that. So that year, it was just fun, man. Something that you can't explain. Like my being in shot, going number one, and being the point guard of the team. Like you got the rock in your hand and you got your guys. I got my guys that I've been around since sixth grade

on the baseline. Yeah, talking. You know what I'm saying? Talking the whole time. Like that's something that, yeah, but we did it right though. Made sure that the ups and downs that we had in Chicago, no matter what it was, we could go back there

and still do business or whatever it is with them. So it was a blast though, bro. For sure, man. Both of y'all can speak to it as being, you know what I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city, playing with your hometown. They're like, what's that feeling? Like, we talk about it, but what's that feeling growing up

in Chicago like, all right, I saw MJ hit us now. They look at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a lot of pressure. I can imagine. And I'm lying. I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of people, when they talk about Chicago,

they always mention like the bad shit. So I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of people when they talk about Chicago, they always mention like the bad shit. So I got to mix it up. MJ wouldn't be MJ if he played any way else but Chicago for his pro career. He would have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago, he became the Black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago. Just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago and it's coaches

everywhere, like with the basketball culture is just strong and that, um, the expectation of why, all right, what you gonna do? We seen niggas like you back in the 60s. Are you supposed to be in like, an elevator at the game or doing something different? Like, what's next? MJ won them three, I guarantee you, he had people in this corner like,

there's no way they gonna let you win. You just went on vacay, nigga, you ain't finna let you come back and win three more. I bet you can't. That's you come back and win three more. I bet you can't. That's what niggas in shot tellin' them. Bet you can't. They talk to the wrong one about that. Yeah, I bet you, he, what?

I'ma win one, I bet you can't win another one. But tell them guys, look, I'm giggin' them up. I bet you can't win another one. Oh, that's Chicago shit. Hell yeah! That's what he did that little bit. Yeah, giggin' them up just off the script, but that's what he did that little bit. Yeah, it's just, gigging them up just off the script, but that's what I meant by the culture though, like.

Hell yeah. Being in there, that's what I felt, even though people, my guys never came up to me and was like, man, you gotta kill this motherfucker this game, I felt it though. They didn't have to say nothing. They'll say little shit, they'll be in the kitchen or something, man, what you call, I heard,

what you call throwing a party tonight? Not you call it? Throwing a party tonight. Not saying it to me, but they just talking. But making sure that I hear it. Like, what? He gone, what for going out? I don't, before they played me, I was that nigga, I was going out. No wonder this nigga tried to kill me. They probably saw you.

I'm listening though, even though they ain't bringing it to me, they stating it so that I just could hear it. I'm like, all right. So is this nigga fucked? Yeah, I swear. Radar reason they put 40 over me. But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest person that they had to go,

or like who was your person like that you was like damn. Was crazy. I'm chilling, but I got to sleep with him. I had a problem down there with everybody, bruh, especially in Tib's system, defensive system, where like, at that time we icing everything. If one person go over the top in basketball terms, he beat you in over the top of the pick and roll,

and like, now you're chasing them like behind them and shit. If that happened, he only like it was just hard. But I'm a pure point. So I hate point guards that feel like they about to control the whole game. So scoring, if you scoring, I don't care about scoring like that. Even though like the NBA forced me into scoring, I never was the leading score on any of my elementary time, probably was the leading scorer,

but high school somebody else was, college, CDL was. So I never was the leading scorer. I just found my spots and I found the way to like make it look good, but I'm a pure point at heart. So I hate point guards that don't care about scoring like a rondo like this nigga, like they could fall into just the system

of just playing the right way. Like no, I'm gonna at least try to get in your head. People don't, yeah, scoring ain't really that much to me because winning the game is more than me. I heard one of my OGs, Kurt Heinrich say, like after somebody gave him like 40 or 50, he's saying this shit out loud, but I'm just hearing him. We walking in the hallway, we won, and he was like,

huh, that motherfucker just scored 50 points for no reason. That shit hit home. Where it was like, that's why after I scored that 50, I was so happy that I won. You got to win, bro. 50 or 60, whatever it is. If you ain't getting that dub at the end, you raced up.

Facts. That wasn't Jed in high school. I'm in college. Oh, in college. That wasn't Jed. I was different. I'll try to get somewhere. I was trying to get somewhere. I was trying to get somewhere, bro.

That story cool, D-Roll, from that motherfucking Jen at white four. He's like. But in the league though, he adjusted. Yeah, I did, I would come in for that for sure. But everybody like that in the high school, college, you getting to it, that's how you got to the league. That's what these young kids,

they don't be looking at these players or they be thinking like, oh, you get into it. That's how you got to the league. That's what these young kids, they don't be looking at these players or they be thinking like, oh, you a bum because you on the bench. Bro, did you see this player when he was in high school or college? That's how you got to sing, bro. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure.

Hey man, you brought one of my favorite college players of all time, my boy CDR. Y'all was going crazy. The CDR, man. Yeah, no, that's a fact. CDR. What we got, and I gotta tell this story to CDR. So he tried to hold me, right? So it's me, him and Tone in the gym.

We there for summer school, we shouldn't have course shots for a hundred dollars. A shot though, at the time we both lodging, we don't got it like that. So every shot, you know, that's a shot in college. So he hit a shot and I shot right behind him. And he said that my foot was on the line and he tried to stand on me like,

yeah, you know his voice. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, I am back off. I'm like, nah, you know his voice. Yeah, man, you know, nigga. And I'm like, I ain't back off. I'm like, nah, nigga, nah, you got, nah, my foot wasn't on the line. No matter of fact, he shot the shot and his foot was on the line and I made him shoot over. And he was surprised that I said something.

And he fucked with me for saying something like, damn, you ain't letting me hold you. And I'm like, nah, nigga, I ain't going for that. And check, I gotta tell another story. So this, when I really knew that I made the right decision. So once again, summer school, we there, Joy Dorsey, end up going to a Gangsta Boop concert, video shoot.

Hold on, Joy, you on the block. Nah, he a real nigga. No, but that was you. He a real nigga. He a real nigga. He was in the block. Gangsta Boop, you a real nigga, man. He a real, real nigga. He was in the park. Against the bull, you a real nigga. You won't get it.

R.I.P. to the legend, man. R.I.P. to the legend, man. What the fuck? Uh, he missed the run, right? He missed the whole run. I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to the house, Joy comes to the crib, he thinking everything cool,

CDI ain't talking to him at all. He start cursing Joy out so bad, bruh. Like, man, you let them all fucking team down, that's some ho ass, he talking to him crazy. And you know, Joy, big, I'm thinking that they about to fight because it's my first, I don't know him like that, I just got here. Joy respected it, I'm thinking that they about to fight because it's my first, I don't know him like that. I just got here. Joy respected it.

Start crying, bro. I said, I made the right choice. These niggas care about winning, bro. Like you mad at the nigga for, there's some summer shit, you know what I'm saying? But, and there was some shit that we were running. Night Cow, we set that shit up, or he set it up and the nigga didn't show up, and once I seen that,

I'm like, this gonna be a good ass year. Older niggas that's on the same page, I'm like, all right. Yeah, I had a hell of a run. Yeah, I had a hell of a year, bro. You remember anything from that game, that championship game? Yeah, that was a shot. Oh, damn.

Shots in my dog. No, I already forgot. That was a tough shot. Shout out to my dog. That was a tough shot. The only thing I, yeah, the fireworks, bruh, after you leave the court, the shit be burning you, bruh. Why, as you walking off, I wanted to fight somebody. That's the only thing I really remember. As you walk in as a loser, the fireworks you see on TV,

that shit come down, a lot of people be getting burnt in that shit. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, the shit was burning me, and that shit come down, a lot of people began burning that shit. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, the shit was burning me and that shit was making me so mad as I walked off the court knowing that I blew the game. That was the only thing that I remember for real. Because after that, it was straight league. Yeah.

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What was it like that feeling when you seen Chicago got that first pick? Like, damn. So yeah, we was in LA at the time. And right when I seen that they were like one of the last ones, I kind of knew then, like what it was. Even though people in the room didn't say it, I'm like damn, Chicago a 7% chance.

I'm like, we gonna end up winning that shit. And yeah, that's going back to the crib. Like, yeah, everybody got to experience that one time, at least one time. Like don't you know how everybody be saying you should play in New York at least one time. As a Hoover, just to feel the atmosphere. I feel the same way about people playing at home.

If you could, you might as well at least get that experience. You know what I'm saying? I leaned on you, you don't even know. But I left Indiana to come to Minnesota, right? So when you came on the team, I'm like damn, cause I hate no shade to Minnesota, right? So when you came on the team, I'm like, damn, cause I hate no shade to Minnesota. I love, Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib. You know what I mean?

Like damn, it was everything I wanted. Like I'm at the crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game. After I leave the game, I get to eat with my family, all that. So when I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like, ah, it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced what I experienced. He had to leave the crib before.

So that's why I started, you probably only know I started gravitating towards you, like, hey bro, you wanna shoot? You wanna do that? And you like, because I just wanna get, damn, how did that nigga get through leaving Chicago? You was every, I was nowhere near what you was in Indiana, what you are to Chicago.

I was good, but I played one year, you was every, like I was nowhere near what you was in Indiana, what you are to Chicago. Like I was good, but I played one year, you was there, MVP, high expectations, showed it all. I'm like, man, how he get through leaving the crib? So I just wanted to like, I'm like, man, how he work, what is mental? And then I start seeing you read books and shit. And it's everything that I had never even thought. Like I'm thinking you like, like not like me, but I knew you was like, damn, he from the Midwest, he probably joking clowning clowning.

And you joking clowning. You were super dedicated to shit. And I was just like, all right, let me not fuck up his dedication. Cause I was talking to a fucker that fuck this shit up. I was like, hey bro, you trying to get some bullshit? And he was just like, and he kind of like made me start like appreciating the craft again.

Cause I was kind of like, damn, I got paid, I'm cool. My family straight. But then I seen you, I'm like, and he's super cool. Like he got paid. He don't even gotta be doing this really, but he appreciating the craft. And it made me like start like, hold on, let me stop playing.

Let me like remember why I love hooping. And you brought that to me, bro. Going into the league though? Nah, nigga, I was like everybody else. This shit, it takes time, bro. It takes growth, bro, to get, I went through what I went through. I tried leaving two times, like,

so you get to a point where, like, I could keep doing the same shit or I could change. So after I went through my case, I made a vow that for seven years that I was just gonna, like, try to change my image, you know what I'm saying? By just being me, just staying out of sight out of mind. And it went from seven to now I'm on year like 11 of me just like finding joy, bro, you know what I mean?

Like basketball got me that. But even coming here, I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming here, seeing what y'all got going on, watching from afar, like huge fan of Jeff, of course, seeing how he's adapting to like this new world and new business venture that he's in. So the questions that I asked y'all in there, that's why I asked. We don't have to talk about it, you know what I'm saying?

But that's what y'all hid, you know what I mean? So. We appreciate you, bro. I'm gonna appreciate you. You're welcome, bro. Love, love, love. Was it a vet that when you got to the league that kinda embraced you? Almost every vet, love. Was it a vet that when you got to the league that kinda embraced you?

Almost every vet, bro. Almost every vet. Every teammate I had, I appreciated. That's how I looked at this. Every one of them because when it comes to like the basketball shit when I was in it, I'm like even though I didn't want the fame, I still wanted people to like appreciate

like the work that I put in or the way that I play. So nice to be on teams with niggas. And they tell me they from, Booz from Alaska. I'm thinking about market. Market, market. That's a market, okay. Like damn, I never knew a, well, I mean, y'all, you from overseas.

Damn, they watching YouTube. I mean, they watching me, I bet. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I always show love to everybody. And I had gray vets too, gray vets. Like, show me about health. Like, Lwau was the first one. I seen him eat like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

at halftime, and now that's a custom in the league. Before you go on the buzzer, I mean like brunch, all that shit is just there now. But before it was there, you had like OGs that really, you saw stretching before every game, like Anazi Mohammed, like Joaquin, how he took care of his body. Like a lot of guys were really pros, bro.

Played at least 16, 17 years. Didn't get in the game at all, but they get ready, they get activated like they're about to play. 30 minutes to just chill. So I seen that and I'm like, man, whenever I do get in that position, I'm gonna try to handle that the same way. But only how you get there is you gotta kill your ego.

And that's not like a one time thing. That's like a continuous fucking everyday thing. You know what I'm saying? What motherfuckers think is just one time. Nah, that's just the first challenge. This shit just gonna keep popping up, especially if you call your man, you feel like you accomplished something.

You know what I mean? It's a thin balance. It's a balance, you gotta balance you accomplished something. You know what I mean? It's a thin balance. It's a balance, you gotta balance the shit out. So being aware of that, being mindful of it, like that's when he met me, that's what the stage that I was in. When I see you, like I ain't gonna lie, everybody know me, I be like, I don't wanna know kids.

But when I see you with your son, like being in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat. I, this is just random shit I remember cause I used to watch him like that's hard. Y'all tried to shoot the ball into the rack. Yeah and I'm like, y'all niggas know y'all not about to hit that right? And I'm like, I'm looking like they ain't gonna hit that. And y'all would continuously do it

and I remember one time he hit it. And I was like, that motherfucker hit that shit. Like. I was surprised too. I was like, that was my first. And I was like, that motherfucker hit that shit. Like. I was surprised too. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I was like shit. I was surprised.

But I was like, I'm not gonna bet. But that's my version of the crate for him. Yeah. Put the crate up on the, come on bro, we gon' make a basketball rim out of anything on this motherfucker. Just being creative. And I want you to be able to be on this court, this stage,

and feel comfortable around 20 to 10, 10,000 people looking at you. Just be yourself. Cause a lot of kids I see, like a lot of kids that get on that stage. Freeze up. Scared in the motherfucker. I'm like, nah, I don't want my kids going through that.

I'm putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable. Like I'm putting myself in positions to make them uncomfortable. I'm putting myself in positions, but for them I wish I had a dad or, yeah, something that I wish I had. So I got to present that opportunity for them. You don't have that shit. Nah, I was watching that shit, man.

He over there tossing that bomb. So it was like three days in the room. I'm like, yeah, he ain't gonna, that ain't gonna happen. He hit that shit. I'm over there like, that ain't no nigga. Yeah, R.I.P. J., I see you boy. Like, it's dope to see you.

That's hard. A lot of these niggas, I'm glad you ain't trying to, but a lot of these niggas trying to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially a lot of these A.U. dads. So I was gonna ask you, like, how do you balance that dad life and, you know, making sure he stay on the straight and narrow on the hoop stuff, you know, making sure he stay on the straight and narrow on the hoop stuff, you know,

pushing himself to his max ability. I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's more like discipline with him right now. But it's about knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and a lot of little hoopers need to hear this. Like, knowing your worth, like if a company come to you for an NIL deal or something like that, and like you don't know your worth, you will take any deal.

But you got to look at like, what do you see your brand or what you see yourself associated with? Like he had a deal that come to him in which I thought that he shouldn't have took. But I can't say that to him. I asked him about it. Hey, you think it's right? So who do you see yourself associated with? This brand, that brand? You start thinking about it. Like I gotta make you think, I gotta provoke a thought. You know what I'm saying?

Just to see where your head at, where you think, and at least put it on your mind that if you see yourself being a MVP type caliber, whoever you associate yourself with gotta be on that same level too. So like the hoop inside, I let them just play, bruh. I'm not on them. I make them do his pushups and sit ups and shit like that. But it's really just school

and making sure that his mental right. Like a lot of kids, he quiet. So a lot of kids be like going through shit by themselves and with my kids, I wanna be able to make sure that I'm there. Well not only with my kids, but my family. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure.

It's interesting here you said, you know what I'm saying, with T, he calls you our alma mater, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation now growing up in high school being good or having some type of impression, they getting deals, it's like,

all right, that might be cool now, but you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ain't nobody getting deals at in high school being good or having some type of impression, they getting deals, it's like, all right, that might be cool now, but you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ain't nobody getting deals at high school. Not in the end. That's what I'm saying. How old is PJ? He 11. Oh shit.

Yeah, he 11, bro. But like, it's like coaching kids, like you're right, it's a lot of the mental stuff, like what they go through outside of basketball, you just wanna make sure that they in a comfortable spot or they in a good place. But like you doing that with your kids and that's dope. I wanted to know like when you watch them play,

cause I seen him hit a game winner. You know, you too. I'm like, damn, like I remember him. Like you said, I remember him shooting on the little rack or whatever. So to see him hitting game winners, do you see his skill level going up and you like, shit man, I'm starting to see it.

Do you? It is now, and like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that I'm taking now, bro. Like I have to be there for my fans, bro. Like, it's all about the discipline, bro. Like I don't know how many times, like I'm talking as a dad, not a father, because it's a difference.

Like, my kids call me dad. I love when they call me dad, not father. They don't sound right to me. You feel me? That sounds like some Michael Jackson shit. I sound like a boy. Don't sound right to me. So, like, that time that I'm putting in,

giving every one of my kids my, that equal time, you know what I'm saying? But with him, since he's the oldest, I have to be a little bit more strict on him as far as making sure he gets up on time for school, taking out the garbage. I love chore shit, but it creates your character, you know what I'm saying? So, oh man.

So I'm seeing like So, oh man, so I'm seeing like, it carries over too, where if you're not disciplined in something that you're passionate about in basketball, how you think you're gonna be disciplined in the other areas? You're not, if you're not disciplined about something that you love, other areas is gonna fall too.

That shit gonna crumble at some point. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm like, bruh, dedicate yourself to this and I guarantee you it's gonna pay off. But he listened though, like that's half the battle too and which I love about him. I could talk to him, he got his own individuality too. So once I see that, I don't wanna tamper with that

because I see that if I do, you gonna try to follow me or follow in my footsteps. You're your own person. You are a PJ Road, you are your own entity. How you feel about this? I asked him how he feel, bro. What you think? He had tell me the honest truth.

All right, this how we gonna think about it. Just like we was talking about with the deal. He was mad that I was telling him that shit about the deal. Like, cause he knew that I was telling him right. Like what, like I was asking him questions and the questions I was, the answers, he was like not elaborating on them. Like, yeah, he said a certain company name.

I don't wanna say the name, said they name. I'm like, so how, like that don't add up. P, you see what I'm saying? He started to hear what I'm saying. He heard what I was saying, but he started crying. I'm like, bro, I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel like you made the wrong decision. I'm just showing you that you have worth.

They're coming because you have worth. Now you decide what that worth is gonna be. A lot of kids these days, they don't know what the worth, they don't even know that they got worth. Alone telling the motherfucker that they love them or something or hitting them on the back for doing something right. So me expressing to him where I'm at right now,

telling him like, man, PJ, I'm doing this for me, my nigga. Not doing this for you no more. I'm quitting because of me. I'm tired of it. I'm doing this solely to be around y'all. Taking you to school, I'm picking you up. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. He gonna appreciate that shit.

You may not understand it now. That's my whole little saying now. You ain't gonna understand it, but later on you gonna respect it. I say that all the time. Motherfuckers house, bro. You ain't gonna understand. Motherfuckers kids trifling.

God damn. You gonna throw it at home? Yeah. I done lied to told motherfuckers, hey, y'all keep this room trifling, dude. These mice and shit go come fuck you, the roaches and shit, you gotta lie to them. You gotta kinda cast him.

Nah, for sure. I was just saying all kinds of bullshit. Look at Piercy. Anything to make him listen, bruh. Nah, for sure. You gotta trick him a little bit. That's what I meant by being a dad, like sparking that engine sometimes.

You got a lot of the kids now, they ain't gonna know because of the conditions and living circumstances that you got them in because of what you went through. I went through this, I'm putting you in this type of environment so that you don't gotta go back to that. If they do go back to it, you'll fail you

if you let them go back. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm creating this for you and to see you thrive. And that's all I'm, that's the stage I'm about. Man, just bossing up, bro. That's what this shit's all about, bro. Man, for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed, man.

We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this means for you, bro. I know how much this means to us. Like we said, when we got this opportunity shot to the team for making this happen, man. We were ecstatic, man. We are really happy that you pulled up on this, man. It means the world to us for sure, bro.

Well, bro, no, I'm not saying it's for sure. Nah, for sure. I gotta say something before you leave, bro. I'm so geek, bro. I'm a fan. I know we graduated in 07 or whatever. So when I was in college, you was a rookie and you going against Rondo and them

and the Celtics in the playoffs and stuff. And I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some, I know him. Like I competed against him. I seen him and see you do that shit. And then like to get to know you over the years and then see what kind of person as you kind of father you are, how dope you are as a person and cool. And like for you to have all the accolades

and all the shit that you've got and how humble you was like bro you would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms and you look like you don't want and you look Like this need crazy. I'm taking over the floor, but everybody wanted to be around you And that shit is dope. You don't meet too many people who just like Who got the resume or the person that you are and let you be you. Like, you ain't had to let me start, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, no, no, you, that's what you said.

No, I'm not saying I ain't earned, I ain't saying I earned the start. Exactly, bro, exactly. At that time, for sure. If we being honest, bro. I'm just a realistic person, bro. Like, you had might've went through some stuff, you went to New York and whatever, whatever,

and then you came to the team, but when you started hooping, nigga, you was average at 16 off the bench. I was average at 10. But still, at that time, I was fully aware of where I was at at that time. I didn't wanna start. Tim used to try to come to me, I'm like, no.

I know you didn't wanna start, but I was like, please. Tell this nigga to stop. All me, I'm like no. I know you didn't want to start, but I was like please, tell this nigga to start. All the time he's saying no. Tim's telling you. The whole reason I'm telling Tim, tell this nigga man, Tim's probably going to you like, you didn't start anything, like no. Telling his ass.

I'm like tell him again. And what's so crazy is in a different situation, that's goes differently. And most of the time, and that's the typical in NBA. Typically you got them going against each other, but y'all pushing each other, and that's why it worked out, that's crazy. No, that nigga just did what it's done,

cause they was hurting his feelings. It wasn't even about that. It wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. What the fuck? Fuck them.

Get that sad ass nigga off the court. That's why we can't go back to Minnesota. Fuck off. That nigga made 24 jerseys. I was telling my line, I was fucking zeroed in. Listen, fuck you. I think we're making zero? Listen, my last day, y'all were doing,

we went to Prince House, right? Oh. We went to Prince House, right? We had a little show, and I'm going to let y'all get out of here. Me, Wig, so to know Wig is to love Wig. And he's, me and him, very similar. We're anti a lot of stuff. And he's like, he's, me and him very similar.

We're anti a lot of stuff. And then to know- Not to Umore. So we're stuck in one. Wig is stuck to Umore, just put it out there. So I didn't say that. He said that. So then to know Wig and then to know Gorgi.

So it's me, Gorgi, and Wig at a table, right? We don't smile for shit. We don't do shit. We mean, like people don't know this side of me. Only the teammates know I joke and shit. Like the fans don't know. They think I'm an asshole. I don't smile about shit.

But Wig don't smile about shit. Gorgie, he the nicest person in the world. But they don't know, like he don't smile. Man, our table empty. Nobody walk by our table. I'm talking about, man, his table. Nigga, the Prince Jersey walking by. Not one person had a just T-Princess, by the way.

I think my mama might have one. This nigga Prince Jersey? Bro, had to be the highest selling shit in the NBA earlier. It had to be, bro. Yeah, it was up there. I know bro they was walking by I was like, damn, damn, damn, damn. I'm like wig, damn.

Wig just got a max I'm like fuck bro. You might want to use I got to leave bro. They don't fuck with me. I'm like they don't. No. He was on that then. He was like I got to leave. They not fucking with me no more. It was I'm like, they don't. No. So I'm like, I gotta leave. Like, they not fucking with me no more. It was Kat and then D-Row.

This jersey was more than Kat's? I was like, yeah, he not gonna be back. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, Kat not fucking with that. I'm keeping it a beam, bro. I'm keeping it a beam, bro. I was like, y'all know it. Stop putting, hey!

Stop putting Smut on Kat Nade! I'm not hating on Kat, bro. I was like, y'all know it. Hey, stop playing smart, okay, name it. I'm not hating on Cat, bro. I swear to God, I love Cat, bro. Cat cool as hell. I think Cat one of the coldest players to ever play. Same, same. When I seen that shit, you had to be there, bro. We at Prince House, bro, with Prince Dursies.

I'm watching, I'm like, this is D-Roll shit. Like, I'm like, this is shit. You know what I mean? I'm a real nigga, I realize shit. Like, yeah, he won at six, man. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this his team. That was one of the best collabs that they did. What?

Fire. Was that the first time they ever did that? I don't know, that shit was fire, though. Had to be, bro. My mama called me time they ever did that? I don't know, that shit was fire though. It had to be, bro. My mama called me like, get that press dress, I said, baby, it's gonna be a lot for you. I'm like, my mom shit, that motherfucker's up there. I was like, no, that D-Raw, I'm a bro,

I asked y'all, I said, can you sign this motherfucker? It's how much people have signed. Can you sign it for me? He was like, yeah, I signed it. And somebody took that bitch. From the, you got the locker. Yeah, you signed it and put it in the locker, nigga, I can't believe it was gone.

It was on the equipment somebody got to you. Yeah, I can't believe it. I was like, I can't. I know so many niggas was asking for that shit, I was, I even wanted to ask you to sign another one, I'm like, damn. That motherfucker gonna be on eBay right after this interview.

Yeah, I'm like, the nigga on eBay with that jersey, tap in. 400K. 400K. 400K. Thank you for that. Thank somebody in. 400K. 400K. 400K. Thanks for my offer, 400,000 for that mother right there. I knew when he held them jerseys, I said yeah. That was a hell of an experience. That was dope, that was dope.

His house was crazy. I swear, that was good. That's one of the craziest homes I ever been to. I don't think they still respect him. He's a legend, bro. No, I'm talking about in the house, the rules stay the same. No.

Nigga, don't touch. You can't touch none as if he's still there. I've't know. He's a legend, bro. No, I'm talking about in the house, the rules stay the same. No. Nigga, don't touch. You can't touch that as if he's still there. I never saw nothing like that. Nigga, be gentle around that. I swear, bro. Don't shoot on that goal. I was like, damn.

They said that they used to who, too. I would love to meet him like that, but. Same food menu. Like you can't bring no meat, no other shit in the crib. They still respect him. I never saw nothing like it, bro. That's for sure. It was crazy.

Damn. Listen, I know we gotta get out here, but I gotta ask my brother about the jerseys. How does it feel to still see, you know what I'm saying? Like people wear your jersey. Cause I know, like we always talk about the jersey, like that baby blue Nuggets Mellow jersey, but that number one Bull jersey?

Yeah. That's like a hood legend jersey, like everybody in the world. Even you go to the frat house of the crazy white boys playing beerpaw, they got a D-Bow jersey, yo. How's it feel for that, like, to that universal moment, like everybody's like, no matter where my boy at, we fucking with that jersey. As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude.

For sure, bro. Be appreciative, you know what I'm saying, and not to make y'all this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally got like humor, some humor shit, but. Nah, you good, bro. Who you gonna talk to? We gonna pop shit, you straight, bro.

You straight. Some people need it here. Yeah, but yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, and that's one of the reasons why I think we wanted to come here and show love. Nah, appreciate it. Some Midwest shit, like I said. For sure, man. Hey, man, like I said, we appreciate that. It's midwest shit like I said. For sure man, like I said, we appreciate you.

We appreciate you giving us this moment, man. It means a lot for both sides, man. We can't wait to see what you do next. You know, we got the team gonna keep creating, man. We definitely gonna push and support that. Before we get out of here, be here and tell the people that can grab some merch at theshopclub520.com, baby.

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