Club Shay Shay - 520 In The Morning - Jeff Teague REACTS to Thunder COMEBACK WIN vs. Pacers in Game 4 of NBA FINALS, tied 2-2
Episode Date: June 14, 2025Jeff Teague, DJ Wells and B Hen are LIVE to give their INSTANT REACTION to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder coming back in the 4th quarter and BEATING the Indiana Pacers in Game 4... of the 2025 NBA Finals! Check out Teague and the guys break down all the action! Jeff talks where it went wrong for the Pacers, and what it means to have series tied at 2-2. #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We are here to recap game four that took place yesterday in the Bridgeman.
The Thunder got a W yesterday against the Pacers 111 to 104.
It was a hell of a ball game yesterday.
Man, a lot of people thought that the Pacers
were gonna close this game out.
That is not the case, man.
OKC got them one yesterday in a bridge, man.
Good game yesterday.
I know y'all was tapped in, man.
What y'all feeling about the game so far?
No, I like the game.
It was a good game.
I think the game's really been good games to me.
I just felt like, I really thought y'all was gonna win.
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
It just got spooky at the end.
Man, we did not close out, man.
T, how you feeling about the game so far, man,
before we get into a deep dive?
It was a good game.
I thought the Packers was gonna take it.
They was playing well throughout the whole game.
I don't know, the fourth quarter just kinda got a little,
it was a lot of fouls. Neesman did a lot of lot of foul and Nick Mathur some foul and at the end of the game
But it was like they cleaned up them fouls. That should have been a game. They should have won most definitely listen man as a Patriots fan
I've seen a lot of complaints yesterday about the officiating
I think the officiating yesterday both ways was not the best when I see Scott Foster was pulling up to the bridge
I see to see the play already, man.
They was trying to make things go seven.
I was not a fan of that, but that is no excuse
why the Pacers lost that game yesterday, like you said.
In the fourth quarter, we did not play well at all.
We'll start on the first half though.
It was good both ways.
Both teams were going back and forth.
We got good contributions from both benches this time.
We talked about it, the bench wins the games.
Alex Caruso who gouged out yesterday,
had a smooth 20 piece. Obadi diet was balling yesterday for the Patriots
He was really showing up for us yesterday and a game where especially for the patients in we did not get a lot of
Contributions on offense yesterday. I know my son was battling an illness, but he has looked like they shelled himself offensively
Especially what we saw in that Knicks series for sure. You look at Aaron Niesmith
Not been the best series for him. He was two for nine yesterday
A lot of people were calling for Ben Mather and yesterday
It didn't get a lot of minutes and we'll talk about his men as he did play but
Yeah, I think the rotations yesterday was definitely a downfall to the Pacers loss yesterday
Tyrese had a solid game. I would say great game. The turnovers from him
yesterday was crazy. Usually he is zero turnovers. He had five yesterday. You're not going to
win too many games. Your point guard got five turnovers, man.
Yeah. I don't know why. I hate that man. I hate that man was going to have a sub, man.
He needed to breathe yesterday. He seemed like he was tired out there.
Yeah, he was bad with illness.
Maybe he didn't do his illness, but I just feel like,
he just, I don't know, he didn't have a chance
to sit down and catch his breath.
Cause I, like Ben, I'm like damn, he wasn't aggressive,
but I'm like, are they telling him not to shoot?
Like, what is, what's going on?
Cause y'all needed another scoring option.
Yeah, I mean, we got that dub last game
because of Benedict Mathern.
He played phenomenal last game.
Only got 13 minutes and again the minutes he did play yesterday wasn't the best.
But I feel like early in the rotation we definitely could have got him in the game more.
Again, Aaron D. Smith plays hard defense, fought hard, got not rebounds so definitely was showing his presence on the court.
But offensively he did not give us much and we needed contributions yesterday bad from offensive end.
Yeah, it's like guys like Andrew Neillhardt,
guys who have really good moments.
That's what I was saying about the Pacers
that don't have a consistent score.
You know what I mean?
Somebody's gonna always get 20 points.
Like Benedict Mathur, he had that great game.
Well, we don't expect that from him all the time.
For sure.
He probably capable of doing stuff like that,
but I don't think he has the opportunity to do that. And that's the only thing that scared me about this Pacer team even though they're a really good team
You can't depend on somebody to get 20 points every night
Yeah, because even the person we got 20 from yesterday Pascal Mr. 20 tonight
He did not have a great shooting game yesterday. He started off hottest in the first quarter, but he fizzled off man
He was 6 or 15 yesterday and majority of that six of May field goals came in the first quarter
Tyrese was aggressive late in the game, was cool. One thing I had a real
problem with, Tyrese was out too long in the second half. I get it, I know we stick
to our rotations, cool. TJ McConnell did decent yesterday but we needed Tyrese in
the game. There was like a six to seven point minute swing where he wasn't in the
game and that seven point lead we had going to the fourth was gone like that.
And OKC turned up in that situation. Man, our rotations weren't the best last Swing where he wasn't in the game and that seven point lead we had going to the fourth was going like that and okc
Turned up in that situation
Man, our rotations weren't the best last night, but Chris okc they played good basketball yesterday in the second half
They were really pressuring the ball say what you want to about fouls. That's a scapegoat. Everybody got played with officials both ways
I don't think we lacked too many foul cause yesterday, even though it was Scott Foster
I think the SGA push off on knee Smithmith could have been an offensive foul, cool,
but you still gotta win a basketball game.
You had a lead, you had everything you needed
to win this game.
And y'all was letting Jaylen Williams
get his shit off yesterday.
Yeah, his game traveled.
He played well both these games on the road.
Yeah, he's real comfortable in the bridge, bro.
26 last game, 27 last night, eight for 18.
And again, he did miss at the free throw line.
Neither did SGA.
I think in the first half he had
two free throws. He ended the game with 10. So it means he got eight free throws in the second half
and if you look at the Pacers yesterday, missed free throws, unforgivable. You are in the NBA finals
regardless of what's happening, how you feel about the physicality, you have got to hit at the charity
stripe and there's a possession man. We just legitimately missed three or four free throws.
It was just like Pascal smoked some,
then OB missed too when we got the flagrant.
It's like you have to capitalize on those moments.
OKC only hit three threes yesterday.
Yeah.
They shot terrible from the three point line.
Horrible.
But Benedict came in and missed some tough free throws.
Oh man, when Ben came in the game man,
that's why I said it sucks it had that representation for him, he came in and missed the free throws. Oh man, when Ben came in the game, man, that's why I said it sucks it had that representation for him.
He came in and missed the free throws that we needed.
On top of that, those two dead ball fouls
was got them extra possessions.
Cause they gave us turnover.
Do we have a chance to capitalize?
And we just didn't do it yesterday.
The game was within reach and we did not execute yesterday.
Me and Mike was sitting here and I'm like,
the pressure's gonna win.
It's too close.
These are the kind of games that win.
And when they got that foul when he was out of bounds
and they get the free throw on the ball back,
I was like, oh shit, over now.
I just don't like that y'all play with his minutes like that.
Like he can't, to me, like, and I don't know,
but I feel like you can't get in the groove.
Yeah.
Like if you just really don't know,
like, your role on this team, like, Any given night, cause even when he kill.
He only played 20 minutes.
He only played a couple minutes, so.
Like bro said, you can't really depend on him to go crazy.
That's it, he ain't been able to go crazy.
Like all year, cause it ain't been comfortable for him.
Mo's ever end out to make excuses to their professionals,
this is what they're called to do.
But if you don't play a whole half,
and you gotta come in here free throws in the clutch moment,
that's a lot to ask.
Nah, that's very much so, a lot to ask.
I'm just surprised,
cause he's the third leading scorer on their team,
and it's like, why he don't play?
Nobody ever has an answer for that.
Like, that is insane to me, bro.
And I feel like,
ain't like he coming in there,
like destroying the game. Like, bro. And I feel like, ain't like he coming in there like destroying the game.
Like y'all need his offensive, you know what I mean?
If Pascal and Tyrese ain't giving it to you,
that's your, put your guy in, man, let him rock.
Outside of Pascal, he is the only pacer
who can confidently get his own bucket, Iso.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
Legitimately, outside of him, nobody else
can get a Iso bucket, even with Tyrese last night. I think Ben can. No, that's what I'm saying, he is. Outside of Pascal, he's a generally outside of him. Nobody else can get a ISO bucket even with Tyrese last night
I think being can you know, that's what I'm saying. He is I started passing out
He's only other person who can get a ball to and get a bug about so everybody else you have got to create
Create create and I think that second half like you said a lot of people aren't making shots a lot of people aggressive
So when Tyrese is coming off that corner, yeah, he got a couple of nice leos
But it wasn't no space to get no passes off We know he is a pass first player it got wicked yesterday
Chet Holm did a good job when he switched on Tyrese at the end
Mm-hmm making him go left and Tyrese was trying to get back to that right to the point
He couldn't and he had to shoot an air ball step back three. I'm like, that's good defense by Chet and like I played before
Shay was gardening
And he hit Shay with the right hand,
got right to the basket, laid it in.
And I'm like, man, y'all gotta make that adjustment
on Tyrese.
When you get in the isolation situation with him,
you gotta see him left.
Even though he capable of doing that back there,
whatever it is, but if you let him get to that right hand,
man.
Yeah, and Chay did a good job down the stretch
when he switched on him, not letting him get right.
My boy Chay was crashing that glass to last night
Most definitely very aggressive on second chance points, especially the first half and we seem to be playing very well
They stayed in the game because the second chance points. Also, I got show some love to SGA 35 yesterday
He pretty much outscored
Pascal and Tyrese so when one superstar is outscoring your two people you need to win
It's a recipe for disaster as well for him man.
Yeah, cause they didn't get nothing from Hardenstein
last night.
Nah.
They were just in the way a lot of the time.
Yeah, but you look at the stats yesterday for Chet,
I mean you getting 14 to 15 in the finals game,
you playing ball.
You playing ball and we are not a good rebounding team
at all, so definitely imposed as well yesterday.
Like we asked for Miles yesterday,
offensively he's been struggling,
but you know that defensive energy,
it wasn't there yesterday.
That put back dunk that check guy was a big play.
Yeah, big play.
Cause I was like, if he, they would have missed it,
I mean, obviously they missed that shot,
but if he didn't get that put back dunk,
that game was over.
I'm rolling with that.
Yeah, I felt like he was actually for sure.
Cause some of the shots, even SGA,
the shot he hit down the stretch,
that three was like a last second.
He capable of making that shot,
but they had a good defensive possession.
Like most definitely.
And he hit a tough three.
And then that shot he hit over Neymar,
the step back where he almost falling,
tripping or whatever.
Them just tough makes right there.
That's a tough make.
Another possession too.
Even though fans was upset about it,
maybe a little push there.
That dribble hand off from Miles to Tyrese at Ludo or Blitz and got that. Yeah.
Man, that sparked the energy in that team. All they need is one play.
That's trucks in the water with blood, man.
They are definitely going to get to that basketball and defensive end, man.
Man, shout out to the Thunder. They endured.
They did what they're supposed to do and they got to win on the road, man.
Hell of a game.
All right, we'll hop into Super Chat for a second before we talk anymore.
Humble Webb said Miles Hunter is selling, what's going on?
He nervous.
They said my boy has been sick.
It's been evident he hasn't been playing
like the Miles we're used to seeing,
but it is an NBA finals, it don't matter.
He gotta catch it up for sure.
Ariane Duchen, the Super Chat says,
Jeff, who would you rather have as your guy on your team,
Caruso or TJ Nas?
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Caruso. Yeah, Caruso? Shout out to LD Williams. Caruso.
Yeah, Caruso.
Shout out to TJ Nas.
You were crazy yesterday.
Come on, man.
We talked about that bench not showing up.
He showed up yesterday.
He's 20 piece.
He's tired at all.
No, you can't even pass the ball
to the opposite side of the court with him.
That's a couple of times you should turn up.
Why do y'all keep playing with him, bro?
He had a huge steal on Pascal.
Pascal drove it and he spun.
He came and jumped up and knocked the pass now.
He makes some unbelievable plays and then when he's scoring.
That's a bonus.
Man, what?
That is a crazy bonus.
He get a dub too.
Yeah.
He earned his money for sure.
Most definitely, man.
Like you said, he's outscoring stars on the other side
that he's supposed to be accounted for. And he blitzin blitzin shot ticker roots on man playing good basketball for sure
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Demetri, the Super Chat said,
Lo versus B-H and a good ass matchup, what y'all think?
No it's not.
Shout out to Lo.
Shout out to Lo.
We're going to six, six zero. Aw yeah, it's not. Shout out to Low. Shout out to Low. We're going to six, six zero.
Oh yeah, it's Christmas.
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Von Murphy, the Super Chess, the SGA
had a highlight of push-offs.
Miles Turner shit the bed as one of the leaders of the team.
Love the pot.
Yeah, SGA, I mean, listen bro, that's his game.
He's a strong person.
You gotta play basketball the best way it gets him, bro.
He's one of the best in the league.
All the counters, he's just strong, bro.
That's true.
Yeah, I can't be mad.
Ain't no pushing off.
These grown men playing physical basketball.
You can only do what you can do.
And they play good defense for the most part.
I mean, yeah, he had 35,
but Andrew Nipard played good defense.
If somebody like that, you're not gonna stop, for sure.
18 and seven just not gonna cut it
for Tyrese in this series, bro.
That's a cool game for somebody else, but for him,
they didn't even need 25.
That's his norm though, that's what the average 18 and 11
was.
They need him to damn near be 25, bro.
You know what, in this game, I'm not gonna put too much
on him because in the fourth quarter he did show up
like he's supposed to, he did hit Tommy Buccos,
got the energy going again.
The five turnovers is what I had a problem with
because a couple of those should be assists,
but those turnovers were definitely terrible plays for sure.
But nobody else in the offensive end showed up yesterday
for our team and that's really what my problem is.
At least hit a couple of shots to keep going.
Everybody can't have a bad game, like you said.
We are a team, team, team, so that means
everybody has to be solid.
If you have that many people slack off, you are definitely going to lose
against a team like OKC.
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In the super chat again, Patsy Lucas said,
last two and a third minutes had me sick.
Yeah, man, that sucks.
I ain't gonna hold you.
For as good as he played the game before last,
it looked like he had a complete meltdown at the end, man.
And that is more ammunition for Rick not to play him.
But we need him to win this series, man.
His offensive contributions is a reason
why we even got to the final versus Knicks.
You gotta let my boy cook, man.
It's a sad moment, but as a whole, we lost that meltdown.
Can't just blame him.
Nobody played the best yesterday.
So shout out to Ben Mathur for sure.
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Local said in the super chat,
y'all think it's crazy to say that Sean Livers
is one of the greatest mirror range shooters of all time.
Jeff and Mook, how was it to guard him?
It was like guarding a post player.
He played, after his injury,
he couldn't move like he once did.
He became a post player, shoot middle range shots.
I mean, he's like six, seven.
So that ain't really foreign for him to post up.
But yeah, he had an unbelievable turnaround jumper though.
Big reason why they won that championship also.
Yeah, going to say most definitely, especially that first one, bro.
Yeah, mid-range is the lead shot to sign Lipiston, man.
One of the best in the Midwest for sure.
All right, man. Game four.
So with game five, going back to OKC tie series.
We got the momentum. So, OK.
You feel you feel the hop with your thunder right now?
Oh, yeah. OKC by 20 for this this game five built to ask. Yeah. Yeah
I've always expected that we would probably lose game five
I think the biggest problem that I have is that you know I'm saying you had to win yesterday
You had to win yesterday. Mm-hmm. That's a win. You gotta have kiss
I gave him too much cushion, but I I do think it'll go server
I wanted to go seven man. I thought it was a must win for Indiana last night. Mm-hmm
I'm a little nervous. I want the Pacers to win. I mean for the city
I don't care who went honestly, but the city has been cool last night was a cool vibe downtown. Yeah
That was a must win for the players. It's gonna be tough to be OKC.
That was the most important game to y'all.
Yeah.
To me, yes, because now you have to go win
another game at OKC.
It don't matter.
Yeah, you gotta win OKC.
You have to go win another game at OKC.
Yeah, I don't.
That's tough.
Like, I ain't countin' this out,
but to go win game five, that's going to be a tough task.
Now, Scott Foster better be there
I know that damn much. No, you can't do back the back. Yeah, or is that Garvin? Don't say exactly there's out my dog
But sit this out. We don't need no energy man. Give us a better fish
I'm scared of Tyrese bro in the game seven in there. Yeah, I'm
My boy is
And in game seven,
you know what happened, you know what I'm saying?
Walk them down.
That's what I'm saying bro.
That'll be fire if we go seven and the Pacers win but.
You know what I'm saying.
I ain't gonna lie, it's gonna be tough to beat them twice.
Yeah.
Yesterday was a game like you said,
how game one fell for them, that's how game four fell for us
like oh we should have had that.
We should have closed that game out. And we didn't play the best and neither today
But you got to go get a win like that
Okay
See is not finna hit three threes game five not a game sliders about to be up bro
You about to get Isaiah Joe with three threes about to get Caruso with three three
Come on, we're just about to go in and get 18 again. I don't know, yo. I mean, if it goes seven,
I'm scared of that nigga right there.
I think it's gonna go seven.
I think OKC win this game.
I think Persters come home and win.
Okay.
And then a game seven, you never know what can happen.
Right?
Yes.
I think they got a closer in Tyrese,
but they got a closer in SGA.
Yeah.
But it's just tough to win on the road. Might get a battle of benches game seven it's just tough to win on the road.
Might get a battle of benches game seven, man.
Tough to win on the road.
I would imagine it wouldn't be that much bench play.
In games.
You gotta ride with your horses, bro.
This is a legacy game.
No, I'm not putting my hands.
Y'all not subbing?
No, bro.
You're gonna get a little bit of a breather.
It's for all the marbles, bro.
This is a legacy.
I can't see Tyrese sitting out like he did
game four that long.
I was even surprised.
Okay.
See coach when they took SG out in the fourth, you know,
saying he got that four foul.
Just like he took him out for like 38 seconds.
It did.
I seen him walk up and he'd go back to the bench.
He would sit back down.
He was like, now I'm going back in this game.
I was like, oh, yeah, they really about to give us this game.
You gonna give us two minutes less to SGA?
Nah, he did the right call.
Yeah, and ain't none of that.
We get to a game seven.
No subs, no subs gonna be hard, y'all.
Y'all gonna have to sweat and breathe hard.
I don't give a damn.
It's one game, it's one game, love.
It's the last game of the season.
It's for all the fucking marbles, bro.
You cannot, bro, get your little game ready break, bro. you got half time for a reason lock in bro. Alright so who is
starting five for both teams at the end of the game the last three minutes of
the game who was your five? The game is close. The game is close. One point it
could be either team up. Right now for the Pacers depend upon how Miles Turner
is playing obviously he deserves to be in that moment if he's having a struggling
offensive game you damn right kind of go
Obie because Obie's been rebounding just as well as typically miles does in that situation
And he's giving us a little bit more of a spark as far as putbacks and rolls and stuff like that
But I'm gonna trust my starters bow at that moment. They've got you here this far
They proven they can play in a moment
I'm giving that chance to win a game being So if Ben is having a great offensive game,
do we sit him with, you know, at the end of the game?
If Ben is cooking, like he did last game before,
he has to be on the court.
Okay.
Has to be on the court.
Now if he's having a regular game
and you want to go to the starters, I ain't mad at it.
But if he's killing, you gotta watch your high hand, bro.
We've seen some unsung heroes, you know what I'm saying,
show up in games we didn't expect them to.
But I think the starters aren't that right.
If I'm OK, see, I'm rocking with my five-two.
I'll play my starters.
Yeah.
Maybe Caruso.
Maybe Caruso.
I would sit hard and stand down.
Yeah, I'd probably play Caruso down at Shirtstein.
Okay, I just wanted to ask y'all that.
And he's got the experience, he's been in the moment.
Obviously, he gonna contribute.
Come on, man, seven for nine. He was hooping yesterday at 20 piece. Yeah, that ask y'all that. And he's got the experience, he's been in the moment. Obviously he gonna contribute, come on man, seven for nine.
He was hooking yesterday at 20 piece.
Yeah, that hurt y'all.
Yeah, I mean.
Out of everything, you had the turnovers,
still hurt y'all. I agree.
The game was even sloppy in the beginning of the game,
but him having that dub and playing defense like he do,
bro, that was nail in the coffin to me.
Man, he held four slotted turnovers, man.
Him and Lou Dort, no matter what they got scoring,
they gonna cause havoc for sure.
But a good game, excuse me, Todd series going back to OKC.
It will be a tough one on the road.
OKC is gonna definitely play very, very hard.
I expect the Pacers show up,
but this has been a good series so far, man.
So we are excited.
Hopefully, go seven.
I would love for it to go six for Pacers,
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