Club Shay Shay - Best Guest Moments 2025 Part 3: Jim Jones, Sterling Sharpe, Quinshon Judkins

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

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Boss man, what they do, baby? Good, good to see. How's it, sir? Thank you, sir. No, no, no, no, get back like your word, yeah. My knees bad. No, my knees bad. Thank you very much.

It's been a long day and even longer trying to get here from over there, but thank you for staying. Hopefully we can get you out of here shortly because I've got to get up early in the morning again. But a tremendous day. It's an honor and a pleasure. to follow that guy for for a change and being the first brothers inducted into the pro football hall of fame don't you don't you cry up here don't do that I want to know you have to

tell me tell the people out here understanding and knowing all you've been through where y'all come from what it took to make it to the NFL the struggles having to lead the game early what this night means of you it's um it's kind of interesting uh oach because i never wanted to be in the hall of fame i never expected to be in the hall of fame this is not something i asked for this is not something i wished for this is not something i prayed for because when i I left the game, the only thing anybody ever talked about is what I didn't do. Now, I'm okay with that. I am.

I'm okay with what I put on film. I'm okay with that. So I never had any expectations. This is not like Christmas to where you know you want a skateboard or you want a bike or you want them pair of Jordans. This isn't like that. So for me today is kind of interestingly surreal. Because I didn't want this.

This is not something I wished on myself. But, you know, being there and seeing my friends that are in the Hall of Fame that were more excited than seemed like I am right now, but they were genuinely happy. My good friend, Terrell Owens, I hope I'm not doing anything wrong by putting Terrell's business in the street. T.O. cried. T.O. and I go way, way, way back to the, before he even got in the lead, and he was so happy for me that he and I had about a good 45-second moment to where we just kind of, we kind of got wrapped up in each other and the history and the time and all that.

So it's been a really good day, OCH, but let me tell you, I haven't gotten there yet. It's going to take a little more time to get there. Yeah, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. And I know, hey, it's been a long time since you've seen that guy speechless over there. Yeah, you know, your little brother loves you, man. Yes, he does.

When he talks about you, he talks about the man that, your only man that he's ever hoped to be, the measure up to, because he knows he couldn't do it. and anybody that knows you and anybody that knows him knows how he feels about you me personally you know how much love I've always had for you no doubt let's get some tissue now we need some tissue up here

for those of you who might be too young to remember we religiously talk about Jerry Rice being the greatest receiver in NFL history those who know football

before T.O. Before Randy Morris, we would all mention him because he was that sensational of a wide receiver. He was big time. And so, to then watch you transition into the business

before your brother did, you did a hell of a job talking the game of football, teaching the game of football, working with cats in the industry and showing us the way as well, and had that pedigree. There's so many people that follow that played in the NFL and now doing television, you were doing it before most, and you were doing

exceptionally well. So for me to see you have this day, it's well-deserved, and I'm just happy for you. It's long overdue. Thank you. But it's here. Congratulations. Congratulations. I think the thing is why I get so emotional when people ask why. I say because I had GPS to get to where I'm going because I had to follow him. You see, he did what he did with no navigational system. He had no MapQuest. He had no Google. He had no instructional manual.

I had all of that because I got to walk in his footsteps. A lot of what I learned, almost everything that I learned, I learned from him. My grandfather was very, very hard on my brother. and I didn't understand why until my grandmother said Barney, why are you so hard on Spanky? That's what we call

him. He said Mary, everything that little one is going to learn, he's going to learn it from him. It's his job because we're not going to be around Mary alone. It's his job to teach him how to be a man.

It's his job to teach him right from wrong. He's going to follow everything that he does because that's what he sees all the time. For my brother to do what he's done with no guidance with no

instruction manual to get to where he got to get me to where I got. You guys have heard me say, the only man I've ever wanted to be was him. He was my hero. He was my role model. He taught me to shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football. He taught me how to catch. He taught me how to tie my shoes. I'm not the man that's sitting before you today I watched everything that he did

I hung on everything that he said and that you heard me to tell this story that he's only three years older than I but he's more like my father my sister's eight years old and she's more like my mother because everything that they did was what a mother and a father would do for a child I'm not here

I'm not the man that I am I'm not the person that I am I'm not the friend that I am I'm not the father that I am without seeing how he did things he's we're brothers

we're a lot of like but we're very different because I've always had to fight everything came so easy to him I was so small they called me pee we and I just I could never understood I never understood why I couldn't beat him

in certain things he was always prouder of things that I did as opposed to what he accomplished he was much more happy when I got drafted than he did he went first pick in the seventh round

I mean first the seventh pick in the first round I went seventh round 192 he was so excited he would just call it and say I mean he just and y'all don't know what this moment be not just to our family. My mom is going to be extremely excited. I'm extremely excited.

Our high school coach who coached my mom, who also coached here and I. And God heard prayers. I didn't even know he was listening to. There'll be a time that you and I have a conversation. We'll talk. Mapping everything out. Guess that you want to bring and the party and the entertainment that you want.

Bro. I've said it before. We'll give every dime. Take myself out of the hall just for you to be in. I measure my life in summers. I don't say years. See how big I pretty got, hopefully, pretty healthy. Got 20 summers left.

I'm good now. I'm good. there's only two men guys I've ever told that I love my son my brother it was so hard to keep this a secret when I got to call and I had to get him to come to my home

and they wanted to go do it in Glenville I said bro I hadn't been to Glenville in 13 years he gonna know something up if I tell him to come down there so I can lure him to the house still he hadn't seen him in my home in six years so if I call and I tell him to meet me somewhere he's gonna think something's wrong like bro he's like what's up I say man this come to the house

said like, I'm in town. He's like, you all right? I said, yeah, bro, I'm good. I'm good. I just, you know, I'm in town and, you know, you're close by. And he had surgery on his eye. He had a detached retina. He had a bubble placed in his eye. He almost lost the vision in design about three months ago. And said he had some blurred vision in his eye. And he went to the doctor. And the doctor said, we got to perform surgery. They couldn't perform surgery that afternoon because he had already eaten.

So they got him in the next morning. So that's what we've been dealing with, had a lot on my plate dealing with that because I worry, I'm the worrier of the family. I think that's my responsibility now. But, bro, I'm so happy. I'm so proud of you. I'm getting there. It's hard to explain because you don't want to put your emotions on someone else.

But you know, and I think that the easiest way, to explain it is, we've all experienced, I think, Christmas. You have a list, and you're hoping that you could get two, three, or four of those things. I never wished for this. I never wanted this. And I said it tonight out loud for the first time, and the reporter was like, what do you mean you never? I'm like, man, you don't understand.

I only wanted to do one thing, and that was play. I didn't want to be an all-pro or a pro-bowler or all that up. I just wanted to play. And I got to do that for seven years. And I'm good, and then the Hall of Fame comes around, and they're like, okay, you've been out five years. You know, Sterling Sharp is on the list of 25. You know, it would be, he would be a shoe win. if he played longer but they never talked about what I did and I was like if it wasn't enough

wasn't enough I'm okay with that I slept real good before I found out I was going to the hall of fame and I slept good after finding out but but I really didn't have any any aspirations on wanting this it is a tremendous honor I know exactly what that means I went through it with him and that was the greatest athletic achievement of my entire life was going on that journey with him through the Hall of Fame. Me going in will not exceed when he went in. It won't do it. It's not going to come close. That was probably the happiest I'd ever been because I knew where he came from going to Savannah State. A college, he said he wasn't going to go. That's one of the times that I told him what he was going to do.

So I knew how hard he fought. And I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities for us in sports to where I know what Stephen A's journey was like to get here. Or I know what Chad's journey was like to get here. I know what his journey was like. And all my prayers were for him. I'll embarrass him about one story. I paid all his bills.

He was in the NFL. I paid all his bills. until my daughter was born because that was mine because I wanted him to always have better than what I had. He had a Mercedes before I did. He couldn't afford one, but he was driving one. And then he wanted to go to a beach party and he drove my new one and wrecked it. I junkyard it. He junk, yeah, that's what he said. I junkyard, you carb, dog.

Wait, what? So, so you have to understand that we are, we're brothers, but we are one side of the same coin. We'll say different things differently and we'll do different things differently, but we think alike. And God is truly, you know, and I will tell you this story, and I'm going to be quiet. a guy said to me, if you go in the Hall of Fame, are you going to do like everybody else and thank God because you think God wanted you to be a Hall of Famer, if there is a God? And I said this. I said, my own brother stood up and said,

if you would have played longer, there's no question in my mind that we would be the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That was in 2011. Since he said that, I have not had one catch, I have not gained one yard, and I have not scored one touchdown. and we are the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So you tell me if there is a God and that I should give him some glory. And so, you know, for me, that is what I'm probably most proud of is everybody used to say, you know, Shannon stopped trying to be like him.

You can't be like him, Shannon. Stop trying to do what he does, Shannon. You can't do what he does, Shannon. Stop trying to imitate him, Shannon. Be your own man, Shannon. I am so happy to say he didn't follow me around. I followed him. Class of 2025

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Jim Jones is joining us as Ocho was breaking the man. Jim, how you doing, bro? How you feeling, my brother? You good? Yeah, I'm good, man. Life is good. God is good. I can't complain.

Yeah. So talk to us a little about this music thing. You've been in this thing for a minute now. So talk about Jim Jones of 20 years ago, Jim Jones today. Have you noticed anything different in the music industry? Have you noticed, have you tried to do anything different with your sound to keep up with the way the industry is headed. Oh, yeah, the industry.

The industry has changed tremendously from when I started. There wasn't no social media for, for one. Yeah. When I started in 2003 with my first deal, even before that when Cam started with his deal. So these kids got a bit of advantage when it comes to market in the promo that we didn't have. They had access to a lot of information that we didn't have.

A lot of people say it works against us, but I think it works for us in watching. the way that these kids work in in the present day and things like that. I've learned a lot for them from how they carry their music from how they sell their music and from how they market and promote their music. Us as being here for so long, we've seen.

We tend to get caught up in our dinosaur ways from yesterday and how they carry artists, but that's not the way they carry artists today. So they're a platinum artists that have their nose up because they're a big platinum artists, but that don't count in today's society. They don't carry it the same way. So what I've chosen to do was always chose to try to reinvent myself,

but not to the point where I'm chasing, but there's a medium that I reach because I always want to teach these kids, but I always want to learn some also. So, you know, and we're reinventing yourself. You've got to be willing to be disciplined to know what direction you want to go in when it comes to reinventing yourself. You know what I mean? One of the things I credit it do is the gym.

The gym is one of the biggest attributes to me being able to sustain this long and the game. Sustainability is a lawful. Jim, let me ask you this. And I hear this a lot, and a lot, especially in music. And I see this with television and entertainment, actress, actresses. It's like, man, every record that he put out, it sounds the same. Okay, he does something different. Man, he don't sound like the old guy.

He don't sound like he used to, okay? An actor, actress, they try to do a different role than what we're used to see him. Man, I like when he did that. I don't like this new. you want the guy to change. You want the individual to change and give you something different. And when they give you something different,

you say they don't sound the same and you don't like it. So how does someone win? Now, the person that I have the utmost respect for and what she's been able to do is Beyonce. Beyonce is as big as you can get in one genre. And she says, you know what? I'm going to go over here and I'm going to do this.

I mean, it takes some hussful. It takes some guts, Jim, to do that. I mean, she liked Michael Jordan, when Michael Jordan left the NBA, he went to the NBA, the MLB and Major League and MLB in Major League. Yeah, he had to have a lot of guts, you know what I mean? Like, same with like Dionneon, Dionne,

when he was playing football and playing baseball and being successful at the same time in both of them sports. I mean, and that takes a lot of heart. I haven't seen anybody else do that successfully the way that Beyonce has done it. So I tip my hat to the barriers that she continued to break in.

out of this music industry. Yeah. Hey, Jimmy, what do you think right now about the state of hip-hop? Where it is right now? How do you feel about it, especially with the young dudes, with the sound now? Obviously, I think when it comes to rap, in general, hip-hop in general, I think the sound changes every 10 years. How do you think about this era of hip-hop right now that we're in?

Do you like it? Have you embraced it? What? I mean, in my opinion, it doesn't matter because I had my time. where we were dictating the sound of music and we had a ball and there were older people that were hating on the time

that we had and things like that. I encourage these youngsters to be as creative as they can as long as it's connecting with their crowd and the people are singing your shit and they're going to your shows and who am I to say

I don't like that music when they out here, spanking shit. You know what I mean? You did. So it's like you gotta find, you got to stay true to yourself but find your rhythm in the mix of what's going on

as you're going to be lost in the sauce or you're going to be looking like the old dude, you're going to be looking like a has been. You understand, I'm not into that. My energy ain't for that, you heard? If I'm going to be a contender in this game, I'm going to play at the top of my ability to play, you know what I mean? I'm not going to take no shortcuts enough in a minute and I'm in it.

I mean, I got to contend with the younger boys. I got to contend with older boys. That means I got to come through stepping. They only respect violence and not to say violence, but you know what I mean. Like, they got to see that shit. You dig it. While I'm in the game, I'm going to show them that shit. Like, people don't get a twisted.

Like, I'm a man of many, many different things. my rapper hat is one hat that I wear. But if I'm rapping and I'm in it, I'm in it. What's up? I'm going against all ours and what I got to do to maintain a be a contender in this game and keep feeding my family

and making the money that make off of this. And I mean, I think people get that twisted when they see me talking and pop up my shit and shit like that. That's just one character that I got to put out there for you all to eat up, you know what I mean? But I'm, I'm... Matter of fact, hold on.

I got... I'm allergic. I'm a let's go on. I just, I'm really... I saw some. I saw some comments and saw a clip about, you know, and you and push, I'm not sure if you didn't push, you know, got any type of beef or whatever. I just saw something about you, you know, talk about the ace trumpet.

You didn't like, you didn't like the album, you didn't like the song. You know, what he raps about is not, but you know, I don't got no beef with it. I don't got no beef with nobody, you know, okay, okay, I'm just asking. Half of it is, half of it is me bending the algorithm. Half it is feeding into people's simplicity because the social media is for that, you know what I mean? And like I said, I'm a rapper in this game. It comes with the territory.

You've got to be very competitive. There's a very competitive sport, and you better have some thick skin. I ain't say nothing. I want to hurt nobody and do nothing to nobody. Everything I've been talking about, but strictly about the art of war when it comes to the music nowadays.

Now, maybe 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it would have been a different outcome of what I was, you know what I mean? When I was projected, but I'm not on that. And I think a lot of that gets twisted and with the Jim Jones of today and things like that. I ain't got a positive nobody. I ain't got no option or nothing. And, you know, it's part of me that I've been working on every day.

So tell sometimes I talk way too fast than I should. You heard, but it's part of the game. I don't care. You dig? I hate it or love it. I'm going to turn it into a victory for me. Yes, sir. Check this out, Jim.

It seems to me, since this past summer, what passed last summer, when Kendrick had that diss it seems like now people are just like you know hey we saw the success that Kendrick had got five Grammys he hosted the you know halftime show the Super Bowl blah blah blah blah we see a lot

more dissing going on is that what we if that where we're headed now Danin where you've been there you don't remember Tupac you've seen the success that Tupac had it yeah but look you see the success what about Kumo

what about Kumo D&L Koo J. This is a competitive sport their rap is built on that. So Kendrick and Drake having what they have was no surprise through the rap industry. I mean, people look at it as something, but this is

what the art of rap is about. There's a very competitive sport, and you've got to be ready to be on top of your game when it comes to that. So if you put something out, you've got to be ready for the same energy to come back at you. That's what rap is about. Some people don't go down the lane. Some people go around that lane. Some people go right through it.

I'm one of the people that go right through or win-lose a draw. I keep the same face. But hold on. Hold on. Jim. Jim. Bro, I'm not looking for you to come at me. I put you on, remember? I used to have you on my, I used to have, I used to use the tour with me. Used to open up with me, bro, you know? You remember that right? When nobody wasn't booking you? You remember that, Jim? You heard this song? You heard this, you heard the same when rivals, I mean, idols become your rivals? That's what the rap game is about. Did Alan Allison hesitate to shake Michael Jordan up when he got in the NBA? Yeah, he crossed his ass up. Okay, because he was on another team. I might not stop the love he had for Mike, but while we're on this battlefield, my team got a win,

and I wouldn't have killed anybody that's in front of me for my team to win. And that was Alan Adams' attitude. You got to understand what happens when you come into this game. Your idols become your rivals. There's no passes when we're on the other team. We meet you at the party.

We can laugh and pop champagne. But right now, while we're on this field, while we're on this court, oh, I'm coming to scrape shit out. Now, we can't pop no more champagne. You got people laughing at me, and guess what, they're playing at the football, games. They played the basketball game, not

like us. Oh, no, we can't pop no champagne after that, yeah. Hey, as a matter fact, I'm going to close the club down. Hey, if he ain't coming, I ain't coming. I mean, but I just told you, that's what it is, is competitive sport now. And you got it got different levels to it and things like that, but that's what this was built

on. You heard? So, it's, it's sad that they got to go to such lengths when it comes to artists getting at each other when it comes to the music. But, what's What you project is what you're going to get. So just have that same energy you put out there

because somebody coming right back at you with that same energy, sooner or later. Let me ask you one more question, don't you? So are we going to get some new music because we saw you and Cam kind of going back and forth and the dipset coming back? Y'all going to link up together and give us some new music.

Yes or no? Right now, worried about myself. Dipset is always dipset. The birds still fly. I've been having a bird on my back for the past 15 years when nobody was worried about you think. so that's going to go.

But right now I've got to worry about me. I got to worry about my endeavors. I've got to worry about my business. I've got to worry about my family, you dig? I've done a lot for diplomats where it did and did me nothing at the time. But right now, where I'm at in my life, what works for me and what I'm worried about is myself. I can't tell you what the future may hold or what the future may bring.

I'm not taking nothing off the table. But right now, it's about Jim Jones. And, yeah, I am a diplomat owner. Bet. Go ahead, Joe. I like that. Listen, you took the question. I was fin-asked.

And I think, I think, you know what, history repeats itself, Jimmy. History always repeats itself. And most of the time when history repeats itself, it comes back even big and better. I think diplomats is going to have, they're going to have reunion. I think y'all boys going to reunite. And despite your differences, despite whatever situations y'all might have, you know, all that can be fixed behind closed doors, that ain't nothing but a conversation that just got to be had. Especially when they're making that money.

Or check, your, a nice check always calms things there. You heard? I'm not a stupid man, you heard. You did? But I understand, man. But right now, where I'm at, until that happens, until some business can put on the table which advantageous for all sides.

Right now, I've got to worry about what Capo was doing. And it's been working for me that way. You know what I mean? I've been staying out of anybody's way a little bit. You know what I'm trying to... Every day I work on me. Every day I get better and things like that.

You think I'm unapologetic. You dig, and I don't have no regrets. You should know what I do... I do work on myself every day. I mean, I'm not a perfect man. You dig? But I'm the perfect example. or what can happen if you stay down

until you come up. And that's what I did plenty of times. Jim, when, like, look, you one of the OG's rap, I mean, hip hop is 50 years of age. You've been in this thing two decades. I ain't 50. I'm 48. I said hip hop is 50. I thought you were shooting it at me. My bad.

Nah, nah, nah, hip hop is 50, but you've been in this thing for two decades, right? I've been in this thing, so yes, a little bit more than that since 1997 Cammon got his first deal, so I'm like 28 years in, two. Okay, so Almost three decades. Yeah, 100%.

And I've been signed, I've been signed my first deals two decades ago. How do you determine who you, how do you determine who you work with now? When you want to work with the young artists, how do you go about that? How do you be like, man, I kind of like him. I think we can make some beautiful music together. I mean, I hold no prejudice. I'm looking for great music and I'm looking for great aesthetic. Music isn't everything in today's world when it comes to music.

If you've got a lifestyle that you can sell these kids can buy into, then that's just as good as having a great hit song and things like that. And that's how it worked for me. So there's a combination of the things that I look for to work with the artist or to do business with the artist. But as far as doing music with the artists and things like that, I'm going to say I'm a level of music. So if I hear a record and I think it's dope and I think the artist is dope,

I'm going to reach out to him. How do you stay motivated? We lost it? Yeah. I think we lost it. Oh, damn, that was good. I was enjoying that, boy. Hey, I'm thinking, I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about rapping, man.

Shoot, man. What you think? Who, Ocho? What are you going to rap about now, Ocho? Who, me? Yeah. Hey, I mean, I'm just saying, I'm going to rap about things that I've experienced in life. You know, that's the best thing to rap about it.

That's what most rappers, they rap about the thing that they've experienced. You know, the ups, the downs, the goods, the bads, you know, the Ws, the L's, I think I could put it together. You think so? Oh, there be good. Oh, you back. Oh, yeah. Hey, what's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.

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I just came from the South of France. I was down there for six days, so I just got back yesterday. Oh, that's the vibe. You still spill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still on my suave. My swat, you know. Yeah, you're still spilling that shit.

I get it. I get it. At this juncture of the game, what keeps you motivated? What gets Jim, makes Jim jump out of bed, press down hard as he can, and press go. What keeps you going? I will say the money,

but I've been making money for a long time and the opportunity to take care of my family. I've been doing that for a long time. At this point, I've been doing a lot. So my mission has been to give back more than I took, but I was able to take a lot and I'm still taking. So that's where I'm at in life right now. You know what I mean?

The more I'm blessed people, the more I get blessed. And it's just a testament of hard work and being resilient and being real with yourself. I mean Can they ask you a question Jim? You smoke, right? Yeah

Were you smoking when you said you better than Nas? I might have been a little bit Well, as far as Let's get this right I'm way more influential

than Nas and I don't care what nobody say I know I made it I know I made a little boobo when you talk about the sales

and all this type of shit I don't feel like getting into that rhetoric about where I started and where he started But you said that motion But listen

Nause was nice when I was in high school When I was in 10th grade Nass came out Nause was dope We appreciated him. He had a little bit run. But Nass always came up second to Jay and DMX

and all these other people. There's no shame in that. There, a lot of both came up second to time ready. He never had that type of influence on us, except for his first album. I already told you. I used to want to dress like Nottes because he had a lot of fresh clothes

that the hustlers used to wear and shit. And we used to see him on TV. He had one of the illest albums of all time. And then in high school, when he had the barbecue and shit like that. So I'm a real fan of Naz, but he kind of lost me after the movie, the movie Belly and shit like that.

Man, go ahead on with that, Jim. I'm trying to tell you. I'm being on you. I'm being a fan. I'm telling you from the movie, Belly was fired. But after that, he kind of lost me. I don't think, I think we was way too much into the game. Remember how this goes?

That's not, you ever heard of a Coofy list? Yeah. Go back into your history and find out what happened between us and him. You're digging, I'm not trying to repeat history, but don't play with us when it comes to that. Bro, we already went, went wild on them boys. You're heard? We're the ones that went wild on them boys. You heard?

And people out here acting like I said, I'm going to bring the Coofy list back. I just told you I'm going to change stuff in law. Can you dig? No, look, I'm, I'm putting it to it like this in. Bro, you've been to this thing. But lyrically, I'm going to be, I'm going to keep it a stack with you.

Yeah, but look how you dress. Look how you dress. You don't even be in the same places I'd be in. And the things that we listen to me to me. I can't be in the church house. You can't, you can't ever know what. I don't know who told you that. Now, look, I know you all know you on that good stuff,

but you're not seeing gnauz. You're not seeing gnauz. You got a bunch of 40 and 50-year-olds in their panties because I said I'm better than Nile. Look at you. Look at you. Ain't nobody from the dim set

going to take you over Nards. Nobody from the diplomat for you. That shirt too tight. Hold on, Jim. Hold on. Jim, Jim, Jim. You want to go back to

I really mean it? I really mean it started. If you could go back to your history, bro. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that, bro. That's sure. You said it. You're going to be sticking up for Nog.

I got a question. I got a question. That's not stick up for itself and meet me in a booth for something. If we want to do something, historical. He, he don't do that no more.

No, I say he don't do that. Because he got a hundred million dollars. He's a very wealthy man. You heard he's a very small businessman. He called a couple of businessmen. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Go ahead. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got a question. This is what you do, Jimmy. And anything that you do, right, I've heard you preach it all the time, right?

When you was playing football, you, your first thing you always say, ain't nobody here better than me. Ah, tell them again. You don't told me that story. Hey, listen to me, man. Look, you think I'm going to be second to anybody in this world. But God. Jimmy, let me.

Jimmy, stay with me real quick. Stay with me, now. Stay with me, now. But I'm just saying, that mentality, isn't that how you supposed to feel? Isn't that how you supposed to feel? You know, so let me ask your question. When you was on the field, you thought you was better than T.O. and Moss? Hell yeah.

What you mean? I ain't going to say that out loud. You don't came on here and say, I ain't better than Moss. I'm not better than T.O. I'm not better than right. You said that. I'm not playing the game no more. But you weren't playing.

You didn't, when you were playing. That's the difference. Jill, why are you talking? You need to get with the loss. I'm still playing. Jada them don't cook you all into verses. I'm still playing. I'm still playing at a high level.

You're going to check my record. I'm still playing at the high level. You need to go back and get Jada. Jada them cooped down. I'm rapping at a high level. You better check my stats, bro. I won, I will run circles around Naz rapping right. I will run circles around Naz rapping right.

Right now, I will run sat around Nas right now rapping. Everybody knows that. You heard? That's not talking about the past. He put it down. He said it down. I will run laps around Nas rapping right now, bro. Jim.

Oh, you're talking about right now. But I'm talking about when y'all and his crime and your friends, you can see him. I'm still in it. He got out. Cam was smoking his boots. I wasn't rapping when he was rapping. But Cam really got at him. Remember, I really mean it?

We've been getting at them boys, but this is not about that. Right now, 2025, I'm in the game still rapping at a high capacity. If Nause wants to smoke come in a booth, I will wrap circles around. He enjoyed that $150 million, $200 million. Okay, then, so then leave me alone while I'm on the field. You're laughing with him. He was on the field. I'm picking on whoever, whoever, whatever, I don't care.

I'm on the field. And guess who's the most talk? Kendry, Drey, and guess who we're the most talking about a person. You need to call like Drake. You need to call like Wheezy. You need to call like Kendrick. You need to call somebody that's still in it.

He ain't in it. Why? Kendrick getting him in my age. He don't want to me. Can't you get him in my age? I was in the day of my error. I ain't got, that's not my error. He retired.

Have you ever heard of retirement? Well, that's my error. So I'm calling all of the amount. I don't care if you retire or not. Deal with it. If not, meet me in the booth, Jack. You heard me in the booth. And I'm just talking.

Hey. Let's get this right. I'm not mad. It's all about the sportsmanship of the game. People are a very aggressive person. That seems to get misconstrued when I'm talking my shit. I'm just talking my shit, you heard. Let me talk my shit because I am on the field.

If anybody got a problem with that, they can meet me on the field. That is the booth. Anybody from that error. Anybody. Hey, well, I got, anybody from that error. Anybody. Well, you and Jada in the same. error?

Anybody from that error. You ain't seeing Jay to stop that. Stop that. I said anybody from that error. Stop that. I'm not scared of nobody. Man, put, hey,

see you speed right now. Anybody from the error. I'm not scared of nobody. Hey, I got to put the break assist on. You speed so I got to send you down. I'm in the field daily. In the pool daily.

Anybody want to work out, tell them come to the field. We got, this is the perfect. opportunity. You're not even paying attention. Your antennas ain't up right now. Listen, he said anybody from his area, anybody, he in the field, right? Shit, we can have our own verses on that, our own nightcap verses. I got no, I got no. It's deeper than the verses. It's about who making music.

Me and in the booth, put the record up. Give us a time to do the record by. Give us a subject. And let's see who want smoke who on the booth. Yeah, it is. That's it. Come on. It's about the sportsmanship. It's about. It's about. about the craftsmanship. Fuck the numbers. Fuck the records. You heard, because we both got records

that can smash. We both got... Nigger, me in the booth. Fuck all that. Old school shit. I'm playing on a record from 20 years ago. I am not nostalgic,

nigga. It's 2025. You don't want smoke. Me, me in the booth, set it up, and we can do it for money. Labels to pay for it. I don't want to do it.

We can make a spectacle out here. I got it. I got, let's go. I'm a sportsman, you heard? I got gnaz. I got gnaz. I got God for it.

Well, Get him in a booth. I got, I got Jada. Listen to me. If you get anybody in the booth, I will pull up by myself. Oh, mommy. Yeah, why would you want to pull over the team? They can't help you.

When you get on that mic, they can't help you. On mommy, nudge. When Jani and nine start spinning, who you're going to get to help you? Hey, uh, you're not seeing the vision. I'm seeing the vision. You not see in the vision. That nigga is sharing his shirt to tight. You got to start buying bag of your clothes, big fellow.

You're too big, man. You talk about you in the gym. Now, you want to get me, you want me to see me in the gym? Oh, we could do that. Then you'd like to talk that is. Now, come see me in the gym. We're talking about working out. We're talking about working out of strength.

What are you talking about? Working out or strength? Work however you want to do it. We're talking about, put your money where your mind feels. So you got, so you're talking about working out and burn you. You're talking about working out, I burn you. You're talking about working out of strength because you probably commit a lot more than me. Whatever.

Whatever. You're probably stronger to me. But if you talk about working out, you're talking about working out, I'll burn you. This ain't what you do. This ain't what you want. You're doing good when you're talking about Norse and Jeter. You don't want to see this. You better check the stat.

You better go to my IG. Set it up. Man, please. Also set it up. I'll be the, hey, I, I'll never talk. Loaded guys like you. What you want to start on? You're too small.

You ain't in my league. You want to do it. You want to start on. You want to do it. You're too small. You're too small. Don't put a trainer in between. Don't back out.

Do not back out now. Do not jack out now. I'll come to Atlanta tomorrow and give you one. This you. Bro. You're too small. Bro. You're talking.

You're talking a lot. What you want to do. Take to what you do. You, hey, stick to what you do. You're good on the mic. I won't take that away from you. But stay out of jail. Do you want to do it or not?

You say. Do you want to do it or not? I want to do it or not. I want to compete, too. Uncle, what we doing? Because neither one... Hey, start with Ocho. You can't.

You don't get the... You don't get the cover. Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you one story. I'm going to tell you one story. How I met Antonio Brown. My son said, you know, Antonio Brown live up the block

because I live on the beach and shit like that. I'm like, who's that? He's like, he showed me to him. I'm, I'm like, oh, yeah, his son played football. Come get this workout. So I get on the beach. Cam Newton and, like, a few other NFL player.

I ain't going to see nobody name. He made two of them go home because I was, I finished the workout before they finished the workout, bro. Do not play with me. I'm a beast, nigga. I will go crazy. Shannon, I will go crazy on you. Shannon, I will go crazy on you. What do you want to do?

Let's go. You want to work? You want to work out or you want to do strong shit? You heard? Because obviously you can lift longer to me, but you can't work out with me, bro. I'm a beast, nigga. I'm a beast. Yeah.

You can't do one muscle up, nothing. You can't do nothing with me, bro. Dude, you wear a hundred and fifty pounds. You should do muscle up. I weigh. I weigh $1.95. Hey, uh-huh. I wait a $1.95.

Hey, Jim. You're a lightweight. You better go to my Instagram right now. I work out every day. I post it. I don't post it. Don't play with you. I work out in secret.

I post it every day, nigga. What's up? I don't post nothing. What day you want me come to Atlanta? I ain't even in Atlanta. I'm going to come see you. Oh, come to New York. We got gyms?

When you want to do it? Man, a little small. You want to do a live on the show? You want to do a live on the show? 30-minute way out? I don't do anything for show. Just me and you. And I just want you to know

that I keep your ass doing what you do. You see what I'm saying, old show? Hey. See, you by show. I went in two. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I want in two.

The show gets the dough. You never heard that? Yeah. No, dough, no show. What's up? You're scared? You ain't by this. We can do it for pay-per-view.

I know you got a lot on the line because you're a professional football player or an expert football player. I'm retired. I'm retired. You don't want to get straight. When you sign your first contract, I was retired. Well, when you find your first contract,

I was retired. Straight up by older rapper. Hey, when we're going to compete? There ain't no rapper beat me in nothing, but on the microphone. When it comes to the gym, that ain't happening. What you want to do? What you want to do?

Look here. You have, the rap game, that's you. That's your era. That's your era. That's your era. That's what your era of expertise. Yeah, my name. I ain't going to waste my time dealing with you, man, because you ain't on this level.

You want to run sprints? You want to run routes? What you want to do? Or you just want to stay in the gym. And I got a bad hamstring and I still give you work. Or you want to stay in the gym. I'm staying in the gym. I don't want to do nothing but iron.

I don't move nothing but iron. Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. We could put iron, bro. Like you said, what I did, hey, you can check my resume. It's expensive. In 30 minutes, you will not, won't last 30 minutes with me.

You want me to follow you or you want to follow me? How you want to do it? You can't follow me. I'm going to record. You can't do nothing. You can't bench. You can't squat. You can't, you can't do nothing.

You want to do body weight movements. I don't do body weight movements. You better go check my gram. I do search for squats. I do regular squats. We do deadless. We do everything. Are you out your mind?

Yeah. Man, that's a little wet you, 195 pounds. Man, what I look like going up against a hundred ninety-five-pound man in the gym. That's wasting my time. Max, also take that Take out Ocho, take out I'm a heavy way

I'm a heavy way I'm not Where I'm from A challenge is a challenge nigga Yeah, it regards to size right You heard

We fight all bullies Where I'm from That's how you get up nigga You heard I ain't getting a no man On nothing nigga you heard

I'm the U.S. I'm the U.S. What I look like Take it over Greenland They ain't even got no damn military You know This ain't what you like

This ain't what you look Bro, bring your mouth and your body to haul them. Let's go to the gym. Let's go to the gym. Yeah, I mean, by that, man, I was a hundred and five-pile man, he wanted to do some buffalo. You thought I was one of these rapists? No, I'm in super shape. I'm not in regular shape.

I'm in super shape. Hey, apple is a shape. Pair, egg. I'm not in regular shape. I'm in super shape. And you can ask everybody. The whole, the whole. Hey, we were having a great conversation.

The whole everything knows. You see what you did? Why do you think I was on the cover of men's health for my looks? Because I get busy. Oh, Lord, have mercy. When we're going in the gym, because I want this work. I'm busy. I want this work.

Now you're busy. You bring it up. Now you busy, Rich man. You brought it up. You owe your capades. First of all, you want to chat. You want gnaz. You want jaded.

You want everybody. And then you got to come in my name. No, no, no. No, no. You said that. You said that. You start bringing love You said that bull, John.

Don't try no slick shit. I said, I don't care who it is. I will go up against anybody. That's what I said. He's a better rapper than Nas. Jim Jones defends himself against Nause comparison. Jim Jones rejects Nause comparison.

Check my record. Jim Jones argue he's bigger than Nause. You said that. You sound like you're a little hot. You over there hot? You in your feelings? Because me and everybody else. Your glasses.

Fix your glasses a little bit. Your glasses are little crooked. My glasses are fine. You can talk about my... I take them off. And I still can see you can't F with gnaz. I'll put them back on.

You still can't F with gnaz. Come on. Sing 16 bars and nods right now. Sing your favorite Nause record right now. The man busy. Sing it. Sing it. Sing your favorite Nause record.

First of all. Up. Once you get to. a certain, listen. Sing your favorite Nause record. Jim. I bet you know your favorite J-Z record. I bet you could say your favorite,

what? Jim. Sing your favorite Nyes record. Okay, you don't flew high. You came back down now. You ain't above a Nause? Send your favorite Nause record, bro, since you, since you're going crazy for him.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, why you pay? I can sing more Nause records than you right now. I can sing more Nause records than you right now. So you, whoa, tap it. You are capping. That's what you're doing. Bro, you are capping. I'm a bigger Naz fan than you are.

You are capping. First of all, first of all. I'm 57. I don't be singing no rap. I don't be singing no rap. You see what I'm saying? Ocho? He don't even know about rap.

He's just doing this for the views to get Jim Jones on there to get him hot. I understand. But you don't know. You don't know Nogler. You don't know. Now, now you better talk to take. Sing 16. Hey, this is the biggest podcast you ever been on.

Name one Knazer. This is the biggest podcast. You ever been on? You know the podcast you've been on bigger than this one? Hold on, hold on. I'm not a podcast. No, no. This is what I do.

You see you on your phone, you've been on bigger than this one. When you get big, you get invited to club, Shayshay. This is what I do. Nog's getting invited to club, Shishay. Jaynec is getting invited to club, Shish. You're not on that level yet, bro. See, you all right. Hey, we all right, Jay.

It's for a little young white girl, chill out. We're off topic. We're off topic. You're dealing with. the wrong one, bro. Right here, bro. I don't care nothing about nothing that's what you got to say, bro.

You might as well take you off the shit, bro. Hey, we hear him. You can't out talk me. You might get out around me, but you can't out talk me. Don't nobody want to go to club, Shaysay, nobody want to buy no VIP tickets

to that shit. Nobody is rushing to go to that shit. Biggest you ever been on. Hey. You got a good podcast. You do got a podcast. You do got a podcast. The podcast is tremendous. You and also do your thing.

Don't get a twisted, bro. I don't care. about no fucking podcast, bro. Hey, we said, we're supposed to be talk about music and love and embracing one other and culture and having... Now, we're going to come out here

and disrespect, Nause and Jada. Now, they're going to happen on here. Now, where were we? Why do you keep putting Jada into this? Why you keep putting Jada into this? What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you, bro? You type of a nigga to get caught,

like, nah, come out. They call us all. Like, why you keep trying to put Jada into this, bro? Now, I get it, bro. It's all good. It's all love, bro. All right, you die about this here. Tell us about the movie you got coming out.

The next movie? What you said? Yeah, you got a movie coming out, right? Yeah, coming out at the church steps, a lovely movie. I got a bunch of comedians in there, a bunch of influences that we all know. I'm excited to put that movie out. Comes out later on this summer. It's an added on to my album.

I had a bunch of dope actors in there, too, so I'm looking forward to that. So are you more proud, are you most proud of the, movie you have coming out or the new music you got coming out or they're equal. I'm more proud of the business that I've been doing lately. Okay. So you must think my life revolves around music when my life is, music is probably the smallest fraction of my life, even though it fuels a lot of the things that comes to my life because of music.

But I'm a great businessman all around the board, you know what I mean? So you got to learn a lot more about me. And I'm a philanthropist. I'm one of the few people that do give back, shirts off my backs and things like that. All the rhetoric about the rap and back and forth is cool and shit like that. But deep down aside, I'm a way ill-a-man than what we over here growing off about and things like that. Like, my biggest attribute is my giving back. You heard that I'm always do that no matter what.

I want people to get a misconstruity. I love to give back. That's what my whole mission is about. And the more I go viral, the more I'm on your explore page, the more opportunities come to me, the more I can give back. All this comes down to a dollar is where people don't understand. this algorithm. It's a game that I had to learn and understand because I was a, uh, previously I probably would crash down so many things that I see on the internet or so many ways that people are talking about me. I had to learn how to reverse

it and use these things as fuel for me to keep going and things like that. And that's just what I've been doing. I got to a point where I got good at it. So I know how to use it in my favor. And it's a beautiful thing. It could go against you. It could go for you. But one thing, if you're a small person, it's going to work, it's going to work in your favor. You know what I mean? So I use all my opportunities to turn into a dollar. And any time that I'm seen her, they're going to want to know about me. Extra stream is an extra dollar. I don't care about what nobody said.

I name mine's in all facets. That's what I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask, when did, was it always a part of your, like, if you ever made it, that you were going to give back? Because, like you said, you do, you do give back to the younger generation. You do give back to your community. When did that thought, that thought process, how did that come about, Jim Jones, like, you know what, if I get to a certain level and I'm able to help.

and I'm able to give back, that's what I'm going to do. We from an older era, a Godfair era, so I watched my family open the house of strangers sometimes and things like that that it was always a given. And not to mention when I'm coming outside and watching the hustlers doing for the community, the ones that were successful, the ones that always gave back,

bus rides, sneakers, haircuts, all that. So I just chose to carry on tradition. And me being a position of success in my life only helped me to do a little bit more than what I've seen coming up. that's what's up that's good bro hey

I'm gonna pull up in Harlem come on I'm waiting for you man I love you yeah I love you hey hey Jimmy hey unk

if you pull up in Harlem we got to go to Ricardo no we got to go to Ricardo hey Shannon you know I love you I love people I love people that I can go back and forth and people don't take no offense to it

you heard a lot of people look at this it might take offense to it, but we are. They are, but we don't care. We have a great time, and we know who we are. You dig? Yeah, for sure. You dig?

We can never let no electronics get in between the realism. We know what's at stake here, and we know what we're doing, you dig? And I appreciate you for that, because a lot of people would have took everything to offense and, like, you did, like, you know. But we all, we are, man. I appreciate this opportunity, man. You do have a great show. I cannot take that from you.

I appreciate you coming on. Let's get this workout out. Come on, O'SJ, could bring him to Harlem. Let's work out. I'm going to bring him. I'm going to record those. Hey, he's not as strong as he say, though. He's not as strong as he.

Oh, there you go. He just be talking, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You see? No, but hey, Jay, real talk, though, man. I appreciate you coming on, Ocho, and I really appreciate it. We appreciate the time.

And I've never, you know, hey, we have a great time going back and forth, talk about Nod and Jada and you. But, bro, you stand the test of time. You do what you do. You grade at what you do. and I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule tonight to come on with Ocho and I and talk about all things. So I had a great time.

I don't know about Ocho, but I had a great time. Hey, listen. I had a great time. Listen, this is, this was iconic tonight. This was iconic. Anytime you got, this is the funny thing about it is people not going to understand what y'all, which are going to be trending, Jim. You know, we're going to be a story in the morning.

People are not going to understand that. This is what we do. This is what we do. This is just the culture. This is how we act. This is how we act when we get together. Like, people got to understand it. Like, yeah.

I love you all, though, man. I appreciate it. Hey, this wasn't nothing but a spades game without the cause. That's all. 100%. Our whole attitude is spades all day. All the time. All the time, bro.

Hey, I love you, man. If I was in Harlem, he's like, okay, let's go find the gym right now. We'll find out what we buy. 100%. 100%. We stand on that. Hey, but Jim, hey, man, best of luck on the album. Best of luck on the movie, man.

Hey, when you get some free time, stop back, bye-bye. I will. I appreciate that, bro. All love. You know my last. Thank you, man. Hey, Ocho. That was awesome.

That was awesome. Hey, Ocho. Now, you know, hey, everybody going to say, man, Jim Jones, the Shadows shop was going. No, no, they don't understand it. And anybody that say that, they don't play spades. They don't play spades. But it ain't, Ocho. Ocho, it's been a while since I've been able to get that out.

Ocho, I've been sitting on there for two months now. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I would just wait. I would just, I would just wait on the right time, won't you? Just waiting on the right time. Our very, very special guest is joining us. Cleveland Brown's rookie sensation running by Quinn Sean Judkins joins us. Q, what's going on, bro?

What's up, what's up? How you doing? No, he good, he good now. You were housing that thing this week. Well, you've been housing it since you got back, but you were really housing that thing. You, hey, house called, bought it. Seriously, I'm out.

Hey, I had to. Yeah. How are you feeling? How has your experience so far in the NFL been? Has it been everything you expected it to be as opposed to, you know, the transition from college to the- Oh, yeah, most definitely. I feel like it's been more so surreal, not only for myself,

but for my family to get to experience everything, you know, get to meet a lot of the players, and that whole nine yards, man, just getting to finally touchdown, you know, being through, going through so much, a slow start to the beginning of the season, and shoot, just everything taking off on the land. Man, that's what's up, right?

You're from Ohio. No, I'm from Alabama. I'm from Montgomery. Oh, you're from, oh, man, how did you let you get out of, how did you get out of, how did you? How did you get way to Ohio State from Phamma? NIL. That's the way to keep a state.

No, seriously. Oh, man. I think for myself, just in college, man, I ended up going to Ole Miss for two years. I played there in the SEC. Had a lot of success. And then my last year of college for my junior year, I was like, man, I want to go somewhere I can compete for a national championship.

So I ended up in Ohio State. I felt like that was a great situation. Coach Day was a great type program, a lot of talented players there. So, you know, I was like, you know, it's no better place to go than Ohio State. So I ended up there. Hey, Q, tell me something. You were SEC freshman year, right? I was, like, nominee for it or something like that.

But, yeah, I think I was a freshman year. I can't even remember. So you left the SEC to go to Ohio State, huh? Yep, yep. Hey, that bag different, ain't it, man? For me, it wasn't about that, though. You know, like, for many different people, like, in the game, it's about money, the car. For me, it was, like, an end of day, bro, I'm a competitor.

I'm trying to go out and, you know, kill it. Like, I'm trying to go out and, you know, win games as much as possible. Because at Ole Miss, I was putting up 1,500 yards. I'm getting 15 touchdowns a year. So I'm like, man, no, I'm doing all that, but that's not what fulfills me. That don't make me happy. That wasn't what I was chasing. You wanted that title.

Hey, Q, Q. Q. Hey, hey, don't give me that politically. Not for real, though. Not for real. Cue, come on. Hey, this is your boy.

Come on. Don't do you like that. For real. Hey. Okay, okay, okay. I'm, I'm going to let you have it. Hey, one thing, I want to talk about, I'm going to talk about the Cleveland Browns.

And I want, I want to, from the outside looking, I don't think you quite understand. Obviously, you, you're in position, but me on the outside, looking in, because there's been controversy at the quarterback position, do you understand that you are the bail cow, that you are the offense? That often goes as you go. Most of the times it's a star player, a star quarterback, or a star receiver, but you are the nucleus of that offense. And as you go, the rest of the team goes. Do you quite understand that just yet? I think just because it's so early on in my career, I quite don't get it yet, but at the same time, I understand, like,

the situation, like, and Coach DeFanski's, it's offense. And if you go back to Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and a different guy's playing in this offense, it's always been able to lean on the run game. And I think that's what's very beneficial about planning this offense. So I think, you know, just in my mindset, man, like my mentality, regardless of who we plan, that week what plays we're installing just had a staying determination

bro to just go out there and just leave it all out on the field but knowing the particular situation like yeah for sure knowing that this is a run first offense I'm already going to yeah you're in the West Coast system in the West Coast system that's all right

you put your foot to dirt and you get down here and then everything comes after that because now we're going to boot we're going to play action because look I play I played in this offense Now, a lot of it's maybe changed the wording or the herbage has changed, but you go back and look at the Broncos offense with TD and Clinton Porter's

and Mike Anderson and Ruben Drones. And you look at the way the team run this offense when you got a running back, when you got a guy, Kristen McCaffrey in San Francisco, Karen Williams with the Rams, you look at Josh Jacobs with the Packers. When you look, when the run game is efficient, this offense is almost impossible. Almost, almost literally, because I, I feel like that's when we're at our best. When we're clicking in the run game, like I feel like as a team, man, we're unstoppable.

And that's where we continue to get better at and consistently try to go out there on Sundays and put it all together. Because I feel like, like you said, man, that run game is what really helps us. What was your expectations when you, what was your goals? When you came in, you was dealing what you was dealing with what you was dealing with in the offseason. I think you got uninvited to the draft, but you were going through what you was going through. You was like, okay, this is going to be behind me. And I'm going to have to put what this is.

I got to put that behind. And I got to go somewhere and I got to perform at an elite level. I got to play like I know I can play. What was your expectations for your rookie season? I think for myself, it was more so a testament to, you know, what I'm doing when nobody was. looking because when I wasn't in the building, you know, like I didn't have a strength staff. I didn't have a coach to talk to to go overplays.

I didn't have every resource that I had while I'm here in Cleveland now. So it was like the amount of dedication that it took for me to give everything I had and try to perfect my crowd when I wasn't around and then come back like it was nothing and try to get on that same page with no training camp. No, no football for, what, three months? So not having those things and just training, making sure I'm mentally sharp. So when I get that call and I go back, I'm ready. I think that was my things that I really heart the most.

Also, other than, like, physical activity, was really just making sure, you know, like, I'm mentally sharp. Just because you go through so much, man. And a lot of people don't understand. They'll never know what it's like. you know, especially being an athlete and the thing that we deal with. But, yeah, bro, just really just making sure I'm mentally there all the way, sharp 100%. I love that what you said, what you were doing when no one was watching.

Because discipline is doing what you should do versus what you want to do. I'm sure you wanted to, hey, the boy's kicking it. They do what they pay, hey, let me go over here, let me part, let me kick it. But the discipline, stay true because I got bigger issue. You're the first Browns player with three rushing. touchdowns in the game since Nick Chubb did it, September 18th, 2022. You had 84 yards rushing three touchdowns and your rookie of the week nominee.

When you see things like you've done doing things that hadn't been done by a Browns player in three years, you're doing, you know, being nominated for the rookie of the year. Look, we all want validation. We put that kind of time in. We put that kind of working in the offseason. And to see, you plan a tree, you want it to bear fruit. Yeah.

You're bearing fruit. Yes. How pleasing? How gratifying? How satisfying is it for like, okay, everything that I did in the offseason, everything that I went through, this is more gratified. It makes it even more like I know I was doing the right thing. For me, it more so, like, I'm doing one of those people where it's like, man, I'm just trying to chop wood. I'm just trying to chop wood. You know, what I'm doing is that's cool. But at the same time, like, you know, I got bigger goals. I know how I view myself as a competitor, how good I want to be. So I don't really think about it But at the same time when I look up And knowing what I've been through Knowing like how I persevered

Knowing what like Different challenges I'll face And then you see the light at the end of the tunnel It motivates me personally To like you know keep going And strive to be better So I think just that motivation You get from in the hunger

Hmm Hey Q Man as a rookie in the NFL Bro living the American dream Tell me what it's like Because when I look back When I was a rookie playing in the NBA role I couldn't sleep

I couldn't sleep I was so geek for the moment Because I'm coming Because when I came in the NBA in 01 It's when Jordan came back You know T-Mack cold Vince caught all them dudes You know they was at the apex

So I couldn't sleep Nice before games Because I was so geeked up for the moment I'm not playing So what is it like as a rookie Living the American Dream? probably been, you know, wishing for this moment since you was a kid and now this you're actually in it.

What is it like? Oh, man, I think for me, man, like, just finally being here, this is something you think about your whole life. Like, you worked your whole life for this. Like, you worked since you was this big, like, to get to this, to this moment. So it's like you finally hear it. But what I realized was, it's like, okay, it's not how fast you can get here. is how long you can stay.

So my thing is, you know, doing everything in my power to, you know, be able to go out there and do this, have the same amount of success, not only for this year, but for a long time and keep that same discipline. So if that's the one thing I did learn, I would say is that, you know, just having so many good vets too. You got a lot of good vets in the locker room. And you meet a lot of good players around the lead to develop a lot of relationships. I think in college is more so very, uh, compared.

to the NFL, I would say it's kind of individualized just because guys aren't in locker rooms as long as they are at different organizations in the league. So I think in the league, man, you always have people that you can lean on, get advice from because, like, coming into this, you know, a lot of stuff moves super fast. So having somebody that you can ask different questions to,

so you're not just hit by the blind, for real, for that. Right. Hey, how has the body holding up? Good, I feel good. You know, I used to get, I got a lot of carriers when I was at old men. So I just get a lot of carries. And then last year at Ohio State, I think I had like maybe 300, 255.

So I was used to being the bail comp guy, you know, so I feel good, though. Okay. As the quarterback, look, he started out, you know, you know, Gabriel gets drafted and the Shador comes in and we know what you doer. We know what that last name brings. You got Joe Flacco, you got pick it, and they're, okay, we're going to move on. We go in this direction. And now has that, the quarter.

The quarterback, the situation with Gabriel and Chador, is he going to get reps? Is he going to start? Is he going to play? Has that impacted the locker room in any way? No, I think with our team, we're all so close. And we got a lot of, we got so many young guys, man. It's like in our locker room, we genuinely, it's almost like you in college again. It feels like, for real, for real, like, damn, like a locker room full of young guys.

But, man, it's just like the energy there, regardless of who playing. Those two guys, they always support. support each other, man. Like, it was a clip I seen on the internet the other day, and it was like them walking down the sideline and just talking, laughing about, I think we had just scored a touchdown or something. But that's who they genuinely are. That's who they truly are.

They are competitive at the same time they want what's best for each other. And I don't think it's ever been turmoil or any words said by anybody on our team, like, about who's our quarterback. We all 100% support Dylan. I even played them when I was at Ohio State twice. I played him at Oregon once and then I played him again in Pasadena, California at DeRose Bowl.

So I got to see him and how he is as a quarterback. He's super talented, bro. He's like super smart. He processes really fast. And he's a great player. So I'm excited to see how he developed in his career. That's amazing. Man, Q, thanks for stopping by.

Thanks for giving some time. Congratulations on your early success. Continued success. Stay healthy. And, you know, when it's all said, done, at the end of the year, you go over 1,000 yards. Come back and tell us how you do. I appreciate y'all.

Appreciate you, man. All right. Later. Yo. Thank you. Hey, tell Denzel Ward, he can't stop me. Hey, look, I'd be telling him at practice. He became mad.

I'd be like, bro, I've been that corner on your app. Boy, I'm 22. I'll still do it. You know me? Yeah. I'm like that. I'm going to hit them, though. I'm going to let them know.

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