Club Shay Shay - BEST OF CFB WEEK 1 PART 1: Colorado takes Home Opener L + Alabama DETROYED

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest College Football stories from Week 1 on Nightcap! Kicking things off with Prime led Colorado's disappointing loss, Florid...a St. DESTROYING Bama and more! 0:00 - Colorado loses season opener32:29 - Florida St. DESTROYS Alabama49:15 - LSU defeats Clemson (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 And tonight's game, Georgia Tech go on the road and in Folsom Field at CU. They win. 2720. Hayes King, 13 of 20, 143. He threw it an interception. But it was his legs that was the difference. 19 rushes. A buck 56, three Russian touchdown, the last one, 45 yards to put them ahead with a minute and seven seconds left in the ball game.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And they go on the road and they defeat the Buffalo's 2720. The first game with Osjadour Sanders and the receiver, Travis Hunter. So Colorado is under the new era now. Canlon Salt, I think that's his name. 17 to 28, 159 one touchdown. They ran the ball really well, 31 for a buck 47. but it was Georgia Tech, 47 rushes, 327 yards. Ocho, I was disgusted watching this game.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I say, what about gap integrity? What about contain? Georgia Tech has run the football since I was a kid. Even when they had Megatron, they ran the damn football. When they had the Marius Thomas, they ran the football. Georgia Tech runs the football. It's like if you play the Naval Academy or Army. You know they're going to run the football, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm like, Livingston, are you going to make any adjustment? Guys, what is your responsibility? What about your gap of integrity? What about what about your contained responsibility? I'm like, this is utterly ridiculous. And quarterback falter, bro, you missed entirely too many throws. He missed entirely too many throws, Ocho. And number 20 got a nice set of hands on him, the running back.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Bro, he's wide open. And I hate when quarterbacks do this, Ocho. When you miss a throw, you go to the running. back, or you go to the ride and see him. I want you. No, bro, I was right there. Put it on me. All you had to do is hit me right here.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Don't talk about turn. That's it. Don't do that. Don't do that. You effed it up. And he had the guy with 3010. He missed entirely too many throws. But their defense let them down tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:16 You can't let somebody come into your building and run the ball 47 times for 320 yards. Hold on. Let me see. Before you go, Ocho, let me see what? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. See if I want to see, uh, no, I want to go back.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Box score. Man, Ocho, this was, I'm like, but I knew I was on the phone with my brother early in the game. I say, Spank, a team give you three turnovers at home in the first quarter. Oh. And you only go seven points. You're telling that team, beat me, beat me, kick our ass. You supposed to have a bearer.
Starting point is 00:05:54 They didn't, and they got what they deserve. Go ahead, Ocho. I'll fight it in a second. Go ahead. I say, listen, what I was going to say is, obviously, we all want to see what Colorado would look like without Chador Sanders, without Travis Hunter, and they didn't look that bad. First game of the season, you want to get the Kings out, you want to see what areas you need to improve in. Obviously, we see defensively, defensively, Colorado has to be able to stop the run, because now it's out there on tape. What do we do when we play against the Colorado Buffaloes to have success?
Starting point is 00:06:24 We run the ball. That was the issue last year, the, oh, Joe, damn. That was the issue last year. Obviously, Georgia Tech showed that. That's an area that hasn't been filled, so that needs to be addressed. Boom, for me. For me, the beginning of the game, Georgia Tech tried to hand the game to Colorado. They tried to hand the game to, I'm saying, well, goddamn, in my mind, I'm looking, boom, after the first turnover,
Starting point is 00:06:49 oh, them boy went down and scored, and then it was two more turnovers after that. I'm like, well, all right, I don't like the way this is looking, because if you got the ball back, two more times. Three turnovers in the first quarter from Georgia Tech. Hold on in the first quarter and you only do something with at one time.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I say, you know what? It's going to come down to the end. It's going to come down to the end because offensively they're not doing enough. They're not doing enough offensively to put me at ease
Starting point is 00:07:15 and to put me at, you know, to make me calm because for one, the first turnover, it was all the way in your territory so of course it was easy to go down and score. But the other two, it seemed like you really couldn't move the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:26 didn't. You couldn't move the balls. You tried, you tried everything you could to establish the run. The run was, it was. They ran for, oh, Joe, they ran, I mean, they ran for 146 yards. Yeah, but obviously, Unke, it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. You want, you want a happy balance of both, you know, to kind of keep the defense, you know, on their heels,
Starting point is 00:07:50 or not knowing what's going to come. Are they going to run it? Are they going to throw it? But they weren't good enough in the air either, huh? That's the quarterback, Ocho. Look, I think he has tremendous arm talent. But, bro, you don't have to impress us with every throw of your arm. You're missing routine throws.
Starting point is 00:08:08 He's going to have to learn how to throw better on the move. Because on the move, he's not very good. And, you know, we're going to be nice, Ocho, because these are college kids, these aren't professionals, although some are making – It's week one. It's week one. It's week one. It's week one.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Oh, Joe, throw it on the move. That should be able to week one, week one, week anything. saying you should be able to throw. Ocho, the throws that he's missing because that's third down. You're off the field. You want to stay on the field. I want another crack. Give me four more cracks at you.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And we saw him miss numerous throws. The second time he had an opportunity to Ocho. He could have ran the ball to the end zone instead of throwing it. Yeah. Bro, we understand that you have a nice arm. I mean, we saw him launch it at 60, 65 yards. But bro, sometimes. times you got to understand okay this is an opportunity for me that that was not the time
Starting point is 00:09:01 for you to try to dazzle try to impress us with your arm pick up the first down and another thing on children I'm going to turn it back over to you I don't know what coach priman they were thinking they got the ball back with a minute and seven seconds in the ball game you got two time and you don't use any you took those same two timeouts you had to start that drive and you go into the locker room with them so you throw one pass behind the line of scrimmage you get tackle you don't call timeout you don't complete another pass on second down you don't call time out and then the quarterback picks up a third down but he burns eight nine 10 seconds on the clock what the hell are y'all doing on the scramble i'm i'm not i'm not sure what was going on in that
Starting point is 00:09:42 situation obviously you want to use those timeouts to give yourself as much time as possible continue running players to try to get down in some in some type of range to throw a Hail Mary pass I'm not sure what the issue was there. But listen, they got some stuff they need to work on. They have some stuff they need to work on. I'm sure Prime is glad that college football is back. We're out there playing against opponents and not just ourselves. So we can see what areas we need to get better at.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Obviously, some areas are some of the same stuff that we had issues with lab fear. I'm going to start with just the running game. Being able to stop the run game. Having the hayless on, having the meat and potatoes to be able to compete up there in the trenches and stop people from running down your goddamn throat. 3.20? That's where it's off.
Starting point is 00:10:29 320. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot too, boy. Oh, that's a whole lot. Running the football and stopping the run is about will. It's about want to. Because schematically, I can't do anything. Ocho, they weren't doing anything.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He faked the toss and then they pull a guard or they pull a double guard or tackle or they'll pull a guard and they'll pull a running back. That's all they were doing. They weren't doing anything. The past game schematically, Ocho, I can scheme people. When I run the football, it wasn't nothing fancy. It was nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It was our guys kicked your guys' ass. That's what we did. That's why football is, for me, mentally the toughest work. Because you know why, Ocho, you're asking the one man to move another man against his will. Now, I know Colorado they want to leave that patch of grass, that A gap, that B gap, that see or contain. I know they didn't want to leave it. But Georgia Tech said, you're getting your ass up out of here.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You getting up out of here. Yeah. And I'm like, bro, what? Livingston, I know, hey, I look, you go back and you watch the film. There's a lot. There's nothing. You didn't really do a whole lot good. Other than the fact, you know, when they got the lead, I mean, you came down,
Starting point is 00:11:48 they got, went got 20, you matched them. But then they go right back down the field, right back down the field. And they ran the football on, Cho. Do you know what it takes to take to go 75, 65, 70 yards? And I just run it. I think they threw one pass. I think they threw one pass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, on the ground at that. On the ground of that. Hey, listen, you know, you know the difference. You know the difference and what matters when it comes to wins and losses. What you got up there in your front? What you got up there in trenches? You ain't got to, listen, if you ain't got enough meat and potatoes up there in your front, in your front yard
Starting point is 00:12:25 and you got them boys ain't got enough rocks in the back pocket you're gonna get moved around you can get pushed around you know you understand that and that's what you saw tonight week one
Starting point is 00:12:34 the same issues you had last year and it's only one way to fix it you got to get them big hogs up there you got to that's the only way to stop it and then if you don't have the size you've got to have people that want it
Starting point is 00:12:47 but they got this that want to come down hill where you know you want to move me against my will, but let me show you I'm not one of those that you're just going. Hey, I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'm coming to the party. It don't matter what time I get there, but I'm going to be there. Corners. Ocho, whatever happened to, I'm not going to let my outside arm get pinned. You never give up that leverage.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Where is the hell leverage? Where is contained? Don't know. I mean, I'm sure. It's hard for me to bleed with the personnel that time has on that staff, they don't teach leverage,
Starting point is 00:13:26 they don't teach contained, they don't teach gap responsibility, gap integrity. I refuse to believe that. And constantly I see, I see DBs giving up the outside arm and the guy running down the sideline. Constantly, I see defensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I'm like, bro, that is your gap. How you let that man get you up out of there? That is your gap. And the funny thing about it is, coaches can coach it and repeat it over and over and over and over as many times they won't. But when the bullets is flying on,
Starting point is 00:14:00 you have one responsibility to take what you're taught and execute the exes and owes. That all come down to want to. That all comes down to want to at the end of the day. Oh, Joe. Here's the thing. When you're walking through something,
Starting point is 00:14:17 it's easy. But if you want to find out what a man can do, put him to the test. The test is when the hut when that ball moves. That's the test. See, I know what you're doing
Starting point is 00:14:31 when you're walking through. I know what you're doing. But if you want to know what a man can really do, put him to the test, put his ass under the gun. And let's see what he does. Because I've seen so many guys and you have to.
Starting point is 00:14:45 In practice, they look like, oh, they'll beckham catching the ball. They run in the ball. They're running the ball. They're like, well, damn. Look at how you break on the ball. on, Dion Sanders?
Starting point is 00:14:54 And then get in the game and he's playing like Colonel Sanders. I'm like, oh, no, hell no. Man, please. So, Chad, I'm sorry. Chad, I'm on one tonight. If you guys can tell
Starting point is 00:15:10 that Colorado game they got me pissed off. I don't know. I'm to the highest pistivity. Is that a word? Yeah. Hey, who they, who are they playing like Colonel Who?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah, I mean, in practice, they're looking like Dion Sanders to break it on the ball. Now they get in the game, they're looking like Colonel Sanders. Fried chicken. Oh, God. And I'm looking, and I understand, I understand. Some of these guys, I mean, starting for the first time, the bright lights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But that's what makes we who make us who we are. To being able to perform under- under duress, under adversity. And not forget that I can't get my outside arm pin. I got to, I got to, I got to hold contained. I've got to maintain my leverage. I've got to have sound gap responsibility. And you can't throw that out the window because now all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:16:15 they firing off the ball. That's the thing. You've got to be able to hold that. And, Ted, I'm not, look. Maybe I'm used in turn, but you watch the game. You saw what I saw. Hell, my old ass could have ran through some of them holes. Now, I wouldn't have got no 45 yards, but I'd have got a first down.
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Starting point is 00:21:53 And for me, I've always felt that I want it at home, especially the first game, my show, I got to win that. I got a whole serve at home. You got to win that. And listen, they had plenty of opportunity, y'all. They had a big opportunity. When they got those, that second and that third turnover and then do it. anything with the ball. I said it's going to be a long night. I told Spake, I said
Starting point is 00:22:17 Colorado. That should have set the tone for the game right here. Put them down. At worst case scenario, you'll put them down 13 nothing, 17 nothing. At worst case, but with three turnovers and that team's on the road, you're in your home, it can't be 7 nothing going into the second quarter. It cannot be. It cannot be. And it puts all the pressure back on Georgia Tech. Because the half of the... Go ahead. Go ahead, Ocho. No, I'm going to say it puts all the pressure back on Georgia Tech
Starting point is 00:22:48 where you won't have that comfortability of being able to run the ball. All second half long. Because guess what, Ocho? I still got to, hey, you didn't take me out, you didn't take me out of what I want to do. Because it's only 7-0. Now, maybe if it's 17-0,
Starting point is 00:23:04 maybe if it's 21-0, I force you to throw the... I got a chain of game plan. Thank you. But now, even with these turnovers, you allow me to. to still stay in my comfort zone. Yes, so. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Hey, I don't know how to do it, Ocho, but most of the time, if you don't make somebody get up out of, if you rent an apartment, if you use somebody landlord, and they go a month or two, and they ain't paid you your money, there's a good chance. They're not going to pay you in three, a month four, month five, month six.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. So they squatting. They squatting, basically. I've got a, okay, guess what? You come home, it's locked. It's a lot. or the locks changed. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And then I don't know what happened. I know what happened. You're 13,000, you're 15,000 in the rears on rent. And I've got responsibility. I got banks that won't their mortgage on this building. And you talk about, man,
Starting point is 00:24:04 that bank don't want to hear nothing, but you lost your job. Right. Because I can't, you know what? I'm going to bring you your money next month because, you know, a couple of my tenants lost their job. They're not trying to hear that, Ocho. So in this situation right here,
Starting point is 00:24:18 all Colorado did with yell across the field. Hey, appreciate them three turnovers. Now, kick our ass. Yeah, that's it. Three turnovers in the first quarter, Ocho? Yeah, you got to do something. Take a little advantage of it. After the second one, I say, okay, if they get another one,
Starting point is 00:24:37 we got to, we got to, we got to find a way to get the game, to get the game out of their heads. Make it a little easy on the back end. But once they, after that second one, and they went damn near, damn near three and out. They did. Damn near. Might as well have been.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I say, you know, it's going to be a long time. No, I knew. I do they wouldn't win in this game. Once they got them three turnovers in the first quarter, and they only came away with seven points, and you allow Georgia Tech to stay within the scheme of what they want to do. The first thing I want to do, if you are a running team, I want to get you out of that.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I don't want you to be able to run the football. I want to, what do you do? What is the second best thing that you do? I want you to play to that. I don't want you to play to your strength, Ocho. I want you to play to your weakness. And if you beat me with your weakness, Ocho, I come to the center of field.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Congratulations. Good job. Hey, stay healthy. I'll see you down the road, coach. But I'm not going to let you beat me when I know that's what you want to do. Right. But like I said, the D coordinator. I understand y'all put a lot of time in
Starting point is 00:25:40 because you know what Georgia Tech does. Georgia Tech wants to run the football. But your gap integrity, your leverage, your contain was piss poor. And that'll cause you to lose a lot of games. That'll call you to lose a lot of games. We had this conversation last year when they played Kansas. We've had these conversations over the years
Starting point is 00:26:00 when we're discussing Colorado about being able to stop the run. Now, one thing I will say, Ocho, they look better in passing. As protection, that left tackle is going to go play at the next level. That left tackle number 77, he's going to go play at the next level. He's going to go play. Yeah, he's going to go play. He's going to be playing on Sundays. But they've got to do a better job.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I don't care how good you are offensively. If you cannot stop the run, because they'll just, I mean, think about it, they still have five more minutes of possession with three turnovers. And a lot of turnovers are like two plays, one play turnover, three plays. He's turnover. You give them the ball back too fast. You're not doing nothing with it. You're not doing nothing with it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Man, I just, I was, man, I was so frustrated because I'm like, bro. Hold on, you think you frustrated tonight. Wait to you, wait until you see tomorrow's game. You might be frustrated again. Who? Who play tomorrow? Oh, Clemson.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, Texas and Ohio State. What you mean? Who played tomorrow? I think the thing is, Ocho, when games, if you know somebody. I'm going to be watching because I like Sark. I know Sark. He and I can we communicate.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So, yes, I'm going to be pulling for SART. I'm sorry, Chad. Yeah, I'm going for Sart because I like him. But, you know, when you know time, you kind of vested, you know, you and I both have gone to see you, watch them play. It's a great atmosphere. And this was a winnable game for Colorado. But they did everything they possibly could to help Georgia Tech steal it from them.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Well, Georgia Tech is steal it. They went on the road. They outplayed them. And coach says, look, we got, we, we, we, give their defense credit because the defense bowed their back because they got the three, they only gave up seven points on those three turnovers. Yeah. So that could have, they could have gotten, they could have gotten out of hand.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Colorado took care of football. They didn't turn it over not one time. They all had less penalties. But when you, when you let a team go run for 320, 320, I mean, first of all, 200 yards a lot, would you start letting teams get 300, 400 yards running on you? And please. Please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But I'm sure Coach Prime, I don't know how they do it in college, Ocho. I mean, we played on, we played Saturday. We was off Sunday unless we played like horse and coach will make us put our uniforms on and go practice. I was thinking about that, Ocho, Ocho, do you know? I mean, think about it, Ocho, if you play the game on Monday, I mean, Sunday, and coach, you in the Cincinnati, they said, Ocho, put your pants on, we go in to practice on a Monday.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't know about that. Hey, listen, hey, gray, grown folk, now grown folk, that ain't going to work. We are not putting no pads on after playing a three-hour game on a Sunday. That's not happening. I'm not sure who the team captain would be, but I can guarantee you
Starting point is 00:28:52 they will not be in no pads after game day. Uncle, you already know how we feel in after the game day. Yes, I absolutely know. Hold on. You know how long it takes to get out of bed after a game? I do. Man, please. Put on some pads.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Pads who? Shoo, now. Ain't happen. But they'll probably have tomorrow off, come in Monday, watch the tape, and get ready because it's a fast turnaround, Ocho. You can't let this linger? That stench is there.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Not, not long. It's just something about, look, it's been damn it to 40 years since I was in college, Ocho. But there's something about, and I was never a big guy that went out after the game, but I can assure you, if we lost,
Starting point is 00:29:33 you were going to see Shedd's sharp face on campus. Oh, hell not. You, first of all, you barely saw me after winning. Barely. I'm talking about maybe, I think I went to maybe one party in four years of college. I don't, no, no. And we lose? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm looking at the guys filing out, man. They hurrying back old show, especially if we home. Right. They hurry up the shower and go to the party. I'm like, you're sorry, mofos? Y'all want people to see y'all? Y'all just loves. Hey, but I tell you what, though, this is how I look.
Starting point is 00:30:06 at it, and I'm going to be honest. You have to think my time during my tenure in Cincinnati, we had, what, maybe one, maybe two intercedents when I was there, so I had no choice, but to handle my business, week in and week out, whether we're winning and losing, because I'm stepping outside. I'm stepping outside, and I can tell you, I know exactly where I was at, because I had friends of mine that I met, Maine, Rico, Lowe's, all them boys down in Cincinnati as a group five on we've been friends since 2001 i have no other outside friends outside of those i met on the first day i got lost in cincinnati first day still friends of this day dude we
Starting point is 00:30:47 go to annies after every game we play at one o'clock the game in at three we had jlexander's at six o'clock and then when 10 or whatever i call roll around oh i'm going out i'm going out because i'm trying to enjoy myself get some of the soreness out walk around you know have a little fun talk to some of the fans, you know, the dudes out, you know, out the hood that be out off a short vine and wherever they're from, you know, just talk football. I like that. I was more of a people person, you know, during that time and loved to talk to the game of football where they were losing or winning, and I would always show my face, whether
Starting point is 00:31:22 we were losing and winning. I mean, I enjoy it. I mean, one of the worst times I had, Ocho, I was in Baltimore, and we had made, I had already made reservations at Ruth Chris. I had brought everybody in and we lost the game. If I had to have my mom and my sister and all them kids, I'd cancel that. Hell, no.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I would get takeout. I would get takeout. We lost the game. Hey, Sean, we go on such and such. I say, no, I'm going on home. I'm going home. I'm a sore loser. I'm a worst winner.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But I don't, I didn't, I don't, I don't want to be around nobody. I know how I am. I'm moody. I'm irritable. Because guess what? That's why y'all lost. Y'all out here parted. You need to be.
Starting point is 00:32:04 home and your playbook. You need to be studying your play. You know what I'm saying? I ain't trying to hear that. So let let me take my black ass home soak, moat, and think about, man, what could I have done differently? Right.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Hey. Hey, I was hanging with us. I was hanging with us. I was hanging with us. We have a game. We have a game of, obviously, we played 1 o'clock. Now, I swear for God.
Starting point is 00:32:34 you would think I wasn't even a football player. For one, not just a football player, but a star football player like that. Because if you want to catch me after a football game before me and the fellas go eat dinner, you can just catch me on Short Vine. You can catch me down the way. I go see my little young bulls
Starting point is 00:32:49 that enjoy the game of football. I sit there with them, talk about the game for a little bit, you know, chit-chat. We're on the corner, huh? We're on the corner in Cincinnati, just chilly. Ain't nothing. I'm going home.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Talking football for about an hour or two. I sit there with them, smoking cigar after the game. Boom, I go down. down to J. Alexander's. My routine was the exact same for a decade straight. It never changed. Well, I don't know if they're still in existence.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I would go, I would call, I would get black eye peeve with the name of the restaurant. I would get the grilled chicken or the country-fired state. I would get I would get rice. I would get Colonel Corn. And I would get Black-Ey peas. Get some, I'd get a combination of like
Starting point is 00:33:27 lemon tea, lemon raspberry tea or something. And I'm going home. Yeah. That's it. I'm on home. I want to be, I want to be miserable by myself. I don't want to see nobody. I don't talk about, I don't want nobody to tell me you played a good game because I played like dog. I don't care if I had 150. I played terrible. I didn't play good enough to win. And I don't, I don't, I don't want nobody to try to pat me on the back. You guys are going get, no, we're not. No, I don't know what's going to happen after this. I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:33:54 this game. So I know, I know how I am. I've always been like this. We lost the game in high school, man, Shaw, we go. Man, I'm going home. Coach taking me home. If we win, your boy, you boy, hey, I'm going to walk the streets with y'all. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah, you, you're going to see me. You're taking it hard. No, no, because I know, because I've always been one of these guys that worked so hard for it. I know what I put in, and the more you put into something, the more it hurt when it doesn't work out in your favor. You see, I like what you just said. You know you put in. I understand what I put in. I understand the work I put in to make sure I
Starting point is 00:34:37 is the team game, right? It's a game when it comes time to get paid, you get paid individual. You do. You definitely do. So I made sure I did my part. If things don't now, if the other 10 don't do what they're supposed to do, now I'm not going to punish myself. I'm not finishing myself. Why am I not going nowhere because y'all's son? I'm going to go get out here. I'm going to go get my Jay Alexander's. I'm going to talk to my home boys. You know, and I'm going to go out.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I'm going to go to annies and I'm going to enjoy myself. Now, I don't drink no alcohol, but, you know, I got my fellas with me. I got my fellas with me. I'm going to make sure they have a good time. Man. Oh, a transformer just hit Joe's house and so he ain't got no power. Joe got buzzet look. He needed to move.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Hey, a Joe, hey, Joe over there on a hundred million dollar property. A hundred million dollar property, 273,000 square feet and ain't got no power. With a goddamn generator, Joe. Joe, with a generator. I know you got a generator out there, Joe. Everybody should have one Atlanta because then pop-up storm going to pop up and knock it out. Go knock your power out. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Can Joe see us right now? Hey, Joe, can you see us? He got the power. Hey, face-timey, Joe. No, he got a cell phone, huh? You don't got, oh, come on now. You don't, you need LTE or G5, what you call it? What you call it, what you call a provider?
Starting point is 00:36:16 A 5G? Hey, that aren't required nothing. Your phone should work. Joe, FaceTime me, Joe, if you can see this. If he's got no internet, you can't FaceTime you? Yes, you can. No, you can. but the internet in the house has nothing to do with your cell phone working.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Hey, look here. Okay. Hey, he can FaceTime. I can just hold the phone up. He can see if you're part of the show. Coach Prime, who was recently diagnosed with bladder cancer and needs frequently use of the restroom no longer has to travel far. He has a portable toilet next to Colorado's bench to accommodate him following bladder reconstruction surgery. And it's sponsored.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Being tied by this. bye. Hey, hey, that, that depends. I know they, I know they're paying well for that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because a lot of people embarrassed for that, Ocho. Who? I wish I would. You know how many zeros probably come behind that right there? A lot of people are back, don't want people to know that they have to wear, you know, adults undergarment. You know what I'm saying? Like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Listen, you got to understand who prime is. You got to, he's one, he's one that can wear any and everything on. their shoulders. Don't give a damn with none of the outside thing. People wear them, but they don't want to advertise it. But like you said, you know, you know what I'm saying? Hey, hold on, they make them for a reason. Anytime they make something, somebody is purchasing it. So it's a lot of, you know, sometimes women, after they have kids, it takes a while for them, for those muscles to get back strong again. Sometimes men, they have bladder cancel, they have
Starting point is 00:37:51 prostate, they have issues. It's hard. And some, you know, hey, my grandmother, my grandmother wasn't wear them. She said, live, I want my dignity. So my grandmother wouldn't wear. My grandmother wouldn't wear them. And, you know, she, obviously, she passed. I think, granted, it was 88. She had, in May. And May, she was 88, so she passed in July. Yeah. So, listen, I tell you what, depends. If you see this, come on how I let you point. It ain't that wrong with you. Hey, but sometimes I do be thinking about getting me a goose. Man, I'd be tired of walking to the bathroom, man. I just need to get me a goose and go. right side of the bed. Hey, hey,
Starting point is 00:38:30 give me something where I could just roll over to the right or roll over to the left. I don't want to get up out of bed anyway, because I keep, I keep upstairs up, boy, by 60 degrees. 60 degrees, it's freezing up there. So when I got to get up in the middle of the night, sometimes I don't want to do that. I could always use some deans. Hey, I'm going to date myself here.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And if you, if you my age are older and you're from the South, you know what I'm talking about. Hey, I'm going to get me a night pot or a slop job. So if you're from the South and you're my age of older, You know exactly. They call them pepots. They call them night pots. They call them slop jars.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I ain't never heard. You can Google it. That's what any time I say something, man. I see, hey. Hey, you know that, uh, wouldn't that mean? That's, she immediately, anytime I say something, won't you know, I can see the picture. But, uh, yeah, but I'll be look.
Starting point is 00:39:27 To where it depends, that's the least of, that's the least of the issues. I was, I'm glad they caught this in time. I mean, think about it. Boy, hey, God, good. God, great. And what he instilled in man to take his bladder and reconstruct it and use a small, man, please. Man.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But, uh, I like that. If anybody, look, this man, that joke, time, his attitude about anything. He'll make anything positive. It can be the worst situation He's one of the few people No matter how bad a situation Is he can make it positive Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:05 He can make light of a situation Make it pop A And you, hey And the thing you know Hey Like when I did the interview And I know a lot of you guys
Starting point is 00:40:15 Have seen the interview When I went up there And I started getting on the body's toes He wouldn't have it any other way Because he's like You know if it was on the If it was you You know I get you
Starting point is 00:40:24 I'm like absolutely I know Absolutely Absolutely, I know. The joke's going to fly now. That's something that's going to always happen. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin.
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Starting point is 00:40:55 Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:45:46 Man, you know I'm good. Oh, you should have told me that. You should have said, nah. Should have told me that. Now, I got to get you. Florida State, who is the upset, unranked Florida State, takes down the number eight team in the country. Tice, put pressure on Tye Simpson pretty much all day.
Starting point is 00:46:06 He was pressured on 16 or 51 dropbacks, one of 10 for 30 yards with three sacks when pressure. Simpson was not on the same page as Ryan Williams, who left the game late with a concussion. Simpson was just 5 of 11 when targeting him, 0. or 3 on passes thrown more than five yards down the field. I was thinking to myself, Johnny, and Ocho, I was like, man, look here. I understand there's not a college coach that's going to be Coach Saban,
Starting point is 00:46:32 but you can't, you can't, he's lost to four unranked teams in 14 games. Coach Saban was there damn near two decades, and he might have lost four unranked teams in his whole tenure. And I was like, man, they might get rid of Kalin DeBore, but I looked at that buyout. He has a $70 million buyout. They ain't got them deep pockets like y'all got Johnny down at Texas A&M, but y'all got a jimbo up out of there for 77 million.
Starting point is 00:46:58 They ain't got pockets like that. So, oh, let me ask you this. You watched Alabama. Oh, yeah. Coach Saban's not walking through that door anytime soon. Okay, Coach Saban's not walking through that door ever. Yeah. When you look at Alabama, they don't even look the same.
Starting point is 00:47:16 They don't have the same swagger. They don't even take the feel the same. Well, Uncle, you got to understand. of course it don't look the same. This is what we're seeing now. When the saving was there, this was pre-N-I-L. This was pre-N-I-L. NIL came along and even the scoreboard all the way across
Starting point is 00:47:31 so all the talent and the players that used to go to Alabama where everybody would go and have to wait in line. They got receiver after receiver after receiver, quarterback after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback, running back after running back at a runnerback. Everybody going all over the place because teams have money.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And players don't want to sit and wait behind anybody else. They want to play right now. Money talks, which is one of the reasons why Nick Saban left? Because the even, the playing field has even where the level of talent is scattered across everywhere. Well, now, most of the part, coaching comes into play. In coaching, is that much more important.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Is that much more important now? Because Florida State today, I'm not going to say they embarrass Alabama, but I guarantee you a lot of people, a lot of people, especially if you gamble, I guarantee you had Alabama to win. I guarantee you had Alabama to win. Johnny, what you think? What didn't you like about what you saw from Alabama and what did you love about what you saw from the Seminole? I mean, I think Castellanos for Florida State jumped off the page in every aspect of everything. You know, you look at what they did. He only threw the ball nine times. That's super effective to be able to go put 31 points
Starting point is 00:48:46 up and you only throw the ball, you're only nine to 14 for 152. That's efficient. The one thing that I will say that I think in the past, you walk in facing Alabama team, you probably got a little fear. This is Bama, the team that's been a dynasty. The team, you got a little fear. That fear aspect of what Alabama is is completely gone. And nobody's scared of them boys, not Vandy, not Kentucky, not nobody. Nobody's walking in and seeing Alabama on the schedule and having any kind of shake any kind of fear nothing they've been getting wiped the last couple years you say that buyouts deep but like they're not going to sit here and let this stand for sure they'll go find it in wood somewhere they they absolutely will because i was thinking the same thing when they said
Starting point is 00:49:32 about jimbo because prior to jimbo the biggest college buyout was gus mose on when he got 21 million to leave albren and basically you tripled out damn near quadrupled that with this buyout for jimbo but you're absolutely right. When you're Alabama and you've had to expect and you've done what you've done six national championships, you lost another two times in the championship game. You're damn there. They called it the Alabama Invitational because Alabama was in it every year and people had them with a chance to win it every year. You can't count Alabama out. You can't count Alabama out. But like you said, Johnny, nobody fears Alabama anymore. And when you don't, that's half the battle. It's fear. That's one of your big.
Starting point is 00:50:15 biggest strength is another man's fear where they don't have that anymore and i'm looking at alabama ocho yeah they ain't got the same level of talent no you're absolutely right when you look at you look at the running backs it was mark ingram and trit richison and this one and that one and you look at and derrick henry and jimir gibbs and this one and that one you go you go look at the wire receivers you went to hulio and ridley and and cooper and this one and that one and judy and back the back and you look at the quarterbacks you look at those big d linemen they used to have you look at at the DBs, they don't have that no more. They just have guys now.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Ain't nobody. When have you watched the game, Johnny, and you played against them? When can you honestly say you watched an Alabama team and ain't nobody jump off the page at you? Ain't nobody like, damn, ain't nobody going to fly from Alabama? Not since the Georgia game,
Starting point is 00:51:05 not since the Georgia game last year where Ryan Williams did his thing and absolutely went crazy. You've seen one player stand out where you're like, okay, this guy is a level of talent of Alabama that we're accustomed to seeing everything else you may see a splash or a dash here or there but you're not seeing it consistently week in and week out like you're accustomed to and the funny thing too unc is i said something about um for me obviously being a receiver and thinking about
Starting point is 00:51:29 college football and thinking about all the players have been promoted and in and advertised as opposed to be you know them boys and me saying like nobody popped out to me on film today and people and people in the chat saying it's only week one yeah week one yes it's week one. That's the whole point. You allowed to pop out. Just because it's week one, that don't mean you can't flag. That doesn't mean you can't show. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What do we talk about is only week one? Yes, that's when you actually pop out and you show off when you're playing against the top talent. You're playing against the good teams. These are the games you're supposed to pop out because you're trying. When you get to the next level, every week is the same thing.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Every week you play in NFL, it's them boys. You plan against them boys. So I'm expecting. I was expecting. I was expecting maybe coaches wanted to call conservative games. Maybe they didn't want to feature the players that we've all been noticing on commercials and seeing over and over and over. So maybe next week. Maybe the week after. I don't know at some point. The games of the day were okay. The Alabama and Florida State game to me was probably the best and the most exciting with the Clemson game following after that. but there's one more game we haven't talked about yet. That was the absolute snooze fest.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'll wait until we get there. When I think about Alabama, the one thing Alabama could do was stop the run. You know Coach Sabin, Johnny, you had to throw. The thing that gave Coach Saban problem has always given Coach Saban problems to do a threat quarterback and the guy that can pass the football.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You go back and look when they lost to Oklahoma, Trevor Knight, I think that was his name. You look at what he did to them in the Sugar Bowl. He stood back there and he threw the ball. Now, the thing that gave him the most problem is a dual-threat quarterback. A guy that can throw the ball and run. You look at Johnny Mansell.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You look at Deshawn Watson. You look at guys that Cam Newton. You look, damn, it's just so happy. You're talking about two guys won the Hizman trophy. One guy was one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL before the injuries and things off the field took place. You see, but they got ran on 49 times for 2.30. Coach, you don't run on Bama.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Bama don't let you run. They stuff your run. They stop your run, and then they go hunt your quarterback. They can't really hunt the quarterback. They really can't consistently stop the run. And Castellanos was doing whatever he wanted to do. Like you said, John, extremely efficient in the passing game, only threw the ball 14 times.
Starting point is 00:54:00 But when you can't, and you know Gus Mazzon, you know what he wants to do. He wants to run the football. He wants to give you a lot of misdirection. He's going to run Jet Suite. He's going to run his quarterback. That's what he does. Hey, Florida State almost lost.
Starting point is 00:54:13 not almost lost that game, but almost letting them boys back in the game, too. After the second half, that second half and third quarter, everything started being conservative. Everything started being conservative, the three and outs, giving Alabama the ball back, allowing them to have a chance to get back into the game. Now, if it was the old Alabama or a team that was a little bit more competent and efficient with the ball, hell, Alabama could have came back and won that game as conservative as Florida State played in that second half.
Starting point is 00:54:40 well the old Alabama wouldn't have been behind like that that too go ahead Johnny no I think I think you look at what Alabama wants to do in the past they would always say listen we're going to go man on man we're going to take our best versus your best and we're going to lock you down times like we said in the past where they've you know had success against an Alabama
Starting point is 00:55:01 has been when you know they're running man coverage running down the field the quarterback's able to escape to contain and be able to get out but this is a team that just doesn't even resemble that like we're going to put our best corner against your best receiver and body him, throw them out of bounds and bully them up or, you know, we're going to take our best edge rusher and just absolutely mop you all day long. You don't, you're not used to seeing an Alabama team get pushed around, especially in the trenches. No. And you got to be concerning. Yeah. And plus, they can't run the ball like they used to. You know Alabama will get
Starting point is 00:55:34 them hogs up. And I'm looking at the offensive line. They go 6-7, 340, 6-7, 320, 6-6. I'm like, bro, y'all big for no reason. What hell are you that big if you can't block? If you ain't moving, oh, Cho, you got to move furniture, you that big. Yeah, yeah. I said, y'all that big can't block the sun at your eyes. I was like, well, damn,
Starting point is 00:55:52 ain't no sense of being that big. Ain't no sense it being that big if you ain't going to move something. Yeah. I'm like, what, damn. I mean, 29 rushes for 87 yards. Oh, Cho, 27 rushes, 89 yards?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. Three yards of carry? Yeah, Florida State looked good on Florida. I'm talking about all three levels. Up front, second level, and the secondary. I really want to know, Chad. I don't know if you guys know. If you remember Earl Little that played for Cleveland Browns,
Starting point is 00:56:22 is that his son, Little Jr.? Hey, he was all over. You're talking about the DB Earl Little, right? Yes, Earl Little went to North Miami down here in Miami. I think that is his son. You think so? Man, he was bald up, boy. Nick Saban coached 20 games at Alabama.
Starting point is 00:56:39 He had four losses to unrued. ranked teams during his stretch. Kalyn DeBoer has coached 14 games and he just lost his fourth game to an unranked team. Since 2007 in games in which Alabama was favored by at least 14 points, Coach Saber is 131
Starting point is 00:56:54 and 2. Kailin DeBore is 4 and 4. They get you up out of there. You don't want to be the man. You don't want to be the man to follow the man. You want to be the man that followed the man. So I want to be the guy that came after the that followed coach sabin i don't want that pressure you don't want to follow coach brian you don't
Starting point is 00:57:15 want to follow a nick sabin you don't want to follow one of those the barren switzers or those air procedures one of those those mythical coaches you want to be the guy that followed the guy that followed him because now that's what i'm going up again because i've got some separation between me and coach sabin i've got separation between me and one of these historic great coaches uh the question that i have for you johnny is that do you believe you the NIL would be the death of the SEC? No, I don't think so. I think the South will only, the SEC and that conference
Starting point is 00:57:50 will only find a way to work around it and do what they need to do. There's too much money there. There's too much in these collectives to be able to make it successful. I think we'll see some more, I think we'll see different programs, different teams, same Georgia. Alabama, the same couple little pockets of teams that have been winning from the SEC. So I think it'll give some disparity in that regard. But for the most part, I think the SEC is aligned for whatever moves forward in the college football in IL landscape,
Starting point is 00:58:27 whether it's getting to bigger conferences where we only have three big conferences throughout the country or four or whatever it may be. I think the SEC can keep accumulating teams, more teams, and end up being the biggest conference. and 16, 20 teams, you know, when it's all said and done, and this stuff kind of plays itself out. Oh, Joe, what you're thinking? Because you look at Underwood, I think we might touch on him. You get Larry Ellison, one of the top three richest men in the world.
Starting point is 00:58:54 He underwrites it. You get Dave Port & North from Barstool. You get a Tom Brady, says, hey, I'll personally help you out and mentor you and coach you. And you give a kid, an 18-year-old, $12 and a half million. Say, come on down here, this is what we got for you. It's hard when you got these deep pocket donors.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You get a team like an Oregon, and you got Nike, and you got that field night dollars, and you get all those uniforms. So now it ain't no Dodge Chargers. It ain't no challenges. These guys got Ferraris, Johnny. These guys got Lambos.
Starting point is 00:59:28 These guys driving Cullinans and McLaren's. Yeah. And 18, 19-year-olds. Yeah. Yeah, listen. Hey, the landscape. has changed. The landscape has changed and it's, like I said,
Starting point is 00:59:42 I said, it's even in the playing field. And I think it's good. I think it's good for the players. I think it's good for the players because not only are you able to obviously get money for playing a sport you love, you're able to help your family out. You're able to help your family early. Now long as you can stay focused
Starting point is 00:59:57 and understanding that you've got this money as just a jumpstart for your bigger dream, for your biggest of making it to that next level where the real money is, as long as you can lock in, stay focused, and do what you need to do. I think I like it, because like Johnny said,
Starting point is 01:00:11 it adds some disparity, obviously to college football in general and even the playing field where everybody gets the talent instead of one or two or three or just three teams getting everybody. You're right? Because it sure seems that way now.
Starting point is 01:00:29 It doesn't look like, I mean, I know, look, Alabama still get five-star recruits, but they don't look like the five-stars they normally get. It's seemingly Ohio State are getting those guys now. And they're like you said, I mean, if they're 25, 35 star, Alabama's getting one or two where they normally have two running backs, two wide receivers, three D linemen, two O linemen, a corner, the number one, the number two or three dual threat,
Starting point is 01:00:55 they don't, those guys don't look like the same caliber player that they normally once had, had. And I think you guys are right. And you know, I have a question too. go ahead johnny y'all could probably help me out when it comes to these stars and whoever is rating them yes from the people that's supposed to be these four and five stars when the lights were bright tonight when the lights were bright today in general the stars didn't come out the stars didn't come out at all well and that's the thing what you alluded to you say when people you tweeted what you you tweeted what you tweeted, and people say,
Starting point is 01:01:35 well, it's just the first game. It doesn't matter. If you are who you say you are, first game, second game, third game, first quarter, second quarter, third quarter. It does not matter. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You're like a pit bull on a leash when this first game comes up. You're sitting there. Thank you. Thank you. You're in training camp. You know, you've got bang, bang, plays going across the middle and you can't touch each other and you're running by and you're barking.
Starting point is 01:02:03 This is what you're doing, all training camp. You're big blowing stuff up. You have the sats, whistleer blown that you'd be like, boy, if that was in a game, we'd have tore your ass up. Like, that's what you're doing, all spring and all training camp. So now you're off the leash. This is your time to run for you. First time on a field, maybe in front of the lights.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah, it could hit you a little weird in a couple spots, but when it comes down to it, a dog is a dog, and it's time to be off the leash. All right. Let's get into it right now. The game that just went off, LSU, the number tigers, number nine, excuse me, LSU Tigers go on the road into first time and a long time. You've had two Death Valley.
Starting point is 01:02:45 That's what Clemson called their home, Death Valley. That's what LSU calls their home, Death Valley. So one Death Valley went into the other Death Valley. So number nine, LSU go on the road. Take down the number four, Clemson Tigers, by the score of 17 to 10. Nussmire, Garrett Nussmire played extremely well, John. I thought he played really well in the second half. He calmed down.
Starting point is 01:03:06 He showed a lot of poise, a battleback, and they got to win. A very tough, fought victory. Normally early on in the season, these are the type of games. LSU normally loses. And you see opening, they lost the Florida State. They got blown out. And then they lost the year before that, they got beat. Now, LSU showed me a little something, going on the road in an extremely hostile environment,
Starting point is 01:03:28 the number four team in the country, and getting a win. that was very, very impressive. Johnny, let me ask you this. What did you like about what you saw from LSU? I mean, I think you look at a lot through the game. You see it was kind of stagnant there for a while where nothing was really happening. He's kind of just kicking it back and forth,
Starting point is 01:03:44 waiting for something to happen. But they stayed patient and Usmeyer finally got things going a lot better in the second half. They have the turnover in the first half that really killed a lot of momentum. But one of these kind of slug-fest games that when you go on the road, you never really know how you're going to win these and get these done.
Starting point is 01:04:00 but when you look at the end of the day, you want to have this win. I think they just found a way to get it done in the second half. Nothing too overwhelming, overpowering or anything like that, but just a solid, you know, one touchdown win. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from LSU, considering these are the type of games we talked about that Brian Kelly has seemingly lost early in the season and finding a way to win a game like this?
Starting point is 01:04:23 You know, when you go on the road and you beat the number 14 in the country, it doesn't matter if it's 17, 10, and for 17, 16, If it's 11 to, if it's 4 to 3, you want. Long as you get the win, listen, LSU played extremely well. I think the beginning of the game was very stagnant. It's a very defensive game. Obviously, most of the time when it comes to college football, even NFL, the defense is always ahead of the offense because all they have to do is read and react.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And it takes time for offenses to get rolling. And what I did see from LSU, and I didn't see enough of. Let me tell you what I didn't see enough of, honk, of LSU is being wide receiver university. LSU to me is now wide receiver university I don't see that dog I don't see that one out there that can make a difference for LSU and I don't see that for Clemson either
Starting point is 01:05:08 there's another university that produces some good wide receivers I haven't seen anybody emerge actually honestly we talk about not just this game the entirety of the day throughout college football those that I thought are supposed to step up
Starting point is 01:05:22 those that have always been on my radar as really really good receivers nobody really what's the word looking for? Nobody really stepped up to the front impressive. Yeah, nobody. Nobody at all.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Especially in this game tonight, I was really looking forward to seeing somebody for LSU to make a difference in the game, somebody for Clemson to make a difference in the game, but that didn't happen. It was more of a defense of Slug Fest, and the points that were scored,
Starting point is 01:05:46 they were earned on. Every point was earned in night. I think LSU will look back on this game and if they see they go and have the type of season that I think guys they want to have, they'll definitely look back at this game. Anytime you can go on the road in a hostile environment. And this is not Clemson's number four team in the country.
Starting point is 01:06:04 They have the number three rated overall prospect. He happens to be a quarterback, a Clint Kubnik, and to go in there and to get that win, I think that tells you, I think Brian Kelly learned something about his team tonight, Johnny. I think he really have, I really think he has a team now that he believes that he can take it anywhere in any environment and get a victory. Yeah. Look, this is a playoff team, Clemson from last year. Same quarterback coming back, a lot of the same pieces. So you got to feel like early in the season.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You know, this game has been scheduled on their, you know, bulletin board for the whole offseason. They knew what they were coming into to play. And like we said earlier, this is a game. LSU normally doesn't come out and win. So for them to do that has to make them feel really good about themselves. I don't see anything in Clemson's game that they should feel too down on. You know, you obviously want to win this game.
Starting point is 01:06:54 But going to the ACC and the schedule that they have, they'll be fine. I think they need to continue to have Clubnik run the ball as he did a couple times there to extend some drives and do some certain things. But listen, everything's going to go through that guy, number two, for Clemson. And if he doesn't put a touchdown on the board, you know, they're usually not going to come out with a win in that situation. Yeah, LSU had to play well. They showed up with T-shirts with 1-0 on it. When you on the road, Johnny and Ocho, will you show up on the road against the number four team in the country? And you're wearing T-shirts and you already got one.
Starting point is 01:07:26 one and oh, boy, you better come out there, boy, you better come on out there and play. And they played that second half. They really dominated, they really dominated this game. Like I said, Nuss, like Johnny, you were 28 to 30, 8, 231 touchdown, not overpowering. He didn't have a 300-yard day. He wasn't 70 plus percent completion percentage,
Starting point is 01:07:47 but he was solid. He made big-time throws when he absolutely had to have him to get a drive, tie the ball game up, and then he goes down and get the go-ahead touchdown. He was very, very impressive. And I think Brian Kelly has to be impressed with his team. Defensively, they started getting out to Clubnik. And once they started to put that pressure on, they brought a blitz.
Starting point is 01:08:06 The guy, a linebacker looped around on fourth and four, and they turned them over on downs. But LSU, this was an impressive win. Now, you go look at it. Texas is in the SEC. Georgia is in the SEC. There are no, look, there are no, they're not going to be any cakewalks. I mean, even Vanderbilt's saying, hold on, hold on, we're not, we're not your homecoming now.
Starting point is 01:08:29 You know, Vanderbilt used to be, Air Johnny, first game of the season was homecoming, Vanderbilt on the schedule. Vanderbilt was like 10 homecomings a season. Yeah. Even when they played MCF. It's a coming out party that day. Hey, everybody's thinking about, hey,
Starting point is 01:08:44 I'm going to pay my stats. You know, hey, hey, the party tonight, I need to shine. But the SEC is going to be very, very tough. Clemson, I agree with you, Johnny. that look, they're not, ain't a whole lot to write home. Now, the team that we're about to talk about
Starting point is 01:09:02 in a little bit, Florida State, they showed us something. Ooh. That constantly, I don't know. He showed us something today. Hey, Florida State, Unk, hey, Johnny, I don't know what Florida State team we saw today, but they look really good.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Not only offensively, which has really been stagnant for a very long time, but defensively, they came to play. Earl, a, uh, uh, little junior, Is that Earl Little Son? I think so. It is? I think so.
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