Club Shay Shay - Best of Iso Takeover Part 2: Tony Allen JOINS and DEFENDS his LeBron is overrated take, Bam Adebayo's all-time GOAT list, Research surrounding ACHILLES injuries

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Joe "King Iso" Johnson brings you the Best of Iso Takeover on Nightcap! Iso dives into research surrounding Achilles injuries in the NBA, reacts to Russell Westbrook potentially joining the Rockets, d...ebates Bam Adebayo's all-time GOAT list, discusses Jalen Brunson's father-son rule, and reacts to Tony Allen calling LeBron James overrated.  Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Russel Westbrook to the Rockets?8:36 - Bam Adebayo's GOAT list18:48 - Brunson's father-son rule32:16 - Tony Allen calls LeBron overrated (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:08 Can y'all see it? Smooth? Can you see it? At this stage of their careers, right? No one has anything to prove. Everybody wants to play good basketball. Y'all, y'all play y'all older guys as well. So y'all know what it is to be able to play basketball at a high level, at an efficient level.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And I think Russ has hit that status now to where he just, you know, gone. He ain't, he ain't Russ of, of, 25 years old. And Russ is one of the greatest dudes I've ever met in my life. He is, dude. All the stories about him being a great teammate. I haven't been his teammate, but I know him and been around him a lot. So that's a great dude.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I think with him walking into that locker room right now with a common goal of trying to get to a championship and win at this stage, especially older. I think it's a great place for him. Because they've been able to a point guard for a long time. So you find Russ, and if Russ is cool with coming off the bench, I don't think you can get a better backup point guard than that. I mean, think about this.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You know, you think about all the great times that they had in OKC and obviously they came up short, being up 3-1 against their Warriors team and then Katie goes and join. Man, they have to think about those times and be like, what if? You know what I mean? What if we would have stayed together here? We probably would at least got one. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:04:24 So I wouldn't mind seeing Westbrook team back over Katie and Houston, bro. I think he'll bring them a totally different dynamic at their point guard position because guess what? you know what you're going to get from him every night he's going to play hard as I don't know what he's going to defend you know what I'm saying and he understands playmaking you know what I mean Katie ain't had one boom
Starting point is 00:04:43 let me find let me find Bigfeller let him get him an easy one you know what I'm saying dump down to the other big fella you know he I think he makes the game easy for everybody he just got to keep his turnovers down if we're keeping it 100 I think them having what's name back uh Fred back
Starting point is 00:04:58 will make that easier for Russ Russ can play with on the ball off the ball him coming off the bench behind for it. I think that's a great spot. I think that's a great spot for Rush. Russ can play basketball in that system. And like I said, man, we all older. Russ is older now.
Starting point is 00:05:12 He don't care about all the other shit that was going on when he was young. Right now it's about winning and playing basketball the right way. It is, bro. Check this out, though. One NBA scout told Ira Winderman that he wouldn't touch for Asian
Starting point is 00:05:25 Russell Westbrook in a million years. He said, I wouldn't touch him in a million years. You can't rely on him in his terms of what he's, was going to happen. Yeah, he'll have you in great games, sure, but he can't shoot. He plays his own way.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He's not going to fit into a system. He doesn't really defend. Which I think about him saying that. He said that one. He's different. Yeah. This guy, Aura Wenderman, I guess he'll be right,
Starting point is 00:05:58 a reporter or something. It's been reported that he, this is what he said. He said he wouldn't touch him in the million. He said, I mean, yeah, he'll put up some numbers and he'll win you some games in terms of truly building winning team. You don't get him on your team. I think that's false. I agree with what we're talking about if I'm in Houston Rockets, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm taking that gamble. I'm taking that gamble. Because look, think about this. Even if Fred Van Fleet, I'm sure he will start the season. But damn, he just come off of ACL surgery. You're all going to run him in the ground for 82 games. And what are you going to be able to get you in the postseason? nothing. So you got to have some depth
Starting point is 00:06:35 at that point guard position guys who know how to play guys who know and understand the game and who can make the game easy for the guys around them. So I always think, bro, and when you look at him because he's up and age, smooth and pargo, he always in great damn shape. And for me,
Starting point is 00:06:51 y'all know me, bro. I'm a guy who loves a guy in great shape. You're in great shape. You can play with me any day. Hey, man, I'm giving that a chance. I ain't going to lie to you. You've got to give it a chance because I think he's talking about the young Russell Westbrook that had his own team. That Russell Westbrook, if he's still thinking that way,
Starting point is 00:07:07 then I can agree with him, but I guarantee you Russ ain't thinking that way. This man is shown he's willing to change. He's coming off the bench, bro. This is a Hall of Fame. Later in this career that's coming off the bench and he's okay with it, how do you hear people say how much of a great teammate and a great person is,
Starting point is 00:07:22 and you put that on that man name at 30, what's for us, 38, 37? Yeah, yeah. You put that on the same name in his career. Don't do it. And think of it. and it's a real true testament smooth and pargo
Starting point is 00:07:35 that his love and passion for the game, bro. Yes. You know what I mean? Because at some point, you know, you keep hearing these stories about yourself, people saying,
Starting point is 00:07:44 creating these false narratives, man, you'll throw your hands up. Like, man, damn all this. I'm going to move around. But he continued to fight and work for his spot,
Starting point is 00:07:54 bro. So he got the utmost respect. I got a question, smooth. What's the beef everybody got with West? book, bro. Why everybody be down with Russ all the time
Starting point is 00:08:04 or talking down on him, bro? What's up with the disrespect? Is he the most... Okay, I ask you this. Is he the most disrespected guy of all times? I think so. Because he, in my eyes, he's the top five point guard of all time. Man.
Starting point is 00:08:20 What point guards, you know that an average triple double in multiple seasons? You know what I'm saying? That's hard to do. And then... I think what it is is people don't like his demeanor, but how you want a player or a point guard of play at that position, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:40 You want a dog with some swagger at that position. Yeah. I think he's the most understood basketball player of all the time, too. You know what I'm saying? I think he does a great job at being a family man, a husband, you know what I'm saying, what he's doing with his kids, what he's doing for his community. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I don't know why, man. I mean, it's kind of crazy to me to see the hate when you have all of those things going on on a positive note about yourself. But I don't think people like how he answers questions to the media. You know what I'm saying? It's mostly, you got to think about it,
Starting point is 00:09:21 it's mostly the media that tries to paint bad pictures on him. It's not really guys that really know basketball, like, you know, basketball players, or like Pargo said, teammates that play with him or guys that just cross paths with him and just got a dose of, you know, a dose of who he is as a person and his character. So I don't think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:46 the media paints a great picture of him, but at the same time, they have to have something to say in order to, it's like clickbait, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day. So it's like it's a narrative that, that they painted on them. So it's like, why not
Starting point is 00:10:02 keep saying it if I'm another reporter? You know what I mean? Right, right. It's just like Skip Bayless back in the day, making his career out for bashing LeBron James. You know what I mean? Yeah. Hey, because once that narrative is created and put out there,
Starting point is 00:10:16 the damage is done already. You know what I mean? Whether it's true or false, you know what I mean? People are going to kind of run with it. So I get what you're saying. I get what you saying. German, what do you think, bro?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Why everybody behaving on Westbrook, bro? It's got to be something from back in the day, man, when Russ was the guy where, you know, when you're the guy, you have a lot more leeway to do what you want, say what you want. Yeah. And they continue to put that on them. But that man doesn't deserve it. That man has literally changed his entire career because it's been guys in the past that's fought about coming off the bench and not want to do this. That man has put his head down and say, I'm going to Sacramento. I'm going to come off the bench.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I'm going to play for the clippers. I'm going to come off the bench and do what I can't help the team win. You can see how he is with young guys. He's helping young guys come along. He's great for your franchise at this point. He's not a problem. So I don't understand why people try and pick on him and put that on him. And I'm a Westbrook advocate right now.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm a big fan of what Russ does, especially at this stage of his career, because he's completely changed his game to fit any system in the NBA, any team. I agree. Because he's not going to do too much. I agree. I agree. For sure. I agree with you on that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Oh, yeah. Hey, smooth, check this out. Bam out of bio leaves LeBron James off of his all-time top five list. Bam Lee Braun all, bro. He, listen to his top five, smooth. Hear me out. He got Kobe Bryant. He got Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:11:48 He got Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, and Tim Duncan. What's up with this list, bro? Bam, Bam, ain't messing with Brian. You got Brian in your top five? Brian probably mad at Brian. They come down there to South Beach, a mess with him. Oh, man, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He left him off his top five because of that? Might be a little salty, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but salt kills, snails, not players. Hello. Hello. Run that one more time. I need that.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I need to say it line for the people in the back. What you did? Salt killed snails, not players. Hello. Hello. Hello. You know, wait about it. Oh, there's my man go right there.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yes, sir. Hey, there go my boy. That boy on that pimp talk tonight, Jeremy. I don't know what he got ain't. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, man, T-Aid on that pimp talk tonight. I'm like, hey. That ain't my lane, brother. I stand my lane.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That ain't where I live. Hey, thank you. Thank you for joining us again, brother. Welcome back. Yes, up. You know, how you feeling, bro? How are you feeling tonight? Man, I'm solid, brother.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I was about to go do me a little R&B karaoke. I get a little call. I said, I got to go on here with my man. Are you really? What? Am I so what I'm sorry about. Come on, man. you know how we get down with their karaoke, man.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You didn't know where I'm going. I'm going to karaoke. Get me on the mic. Hey, listen, check this out. Man, Bam, Bam, left Braun office all-time top-five list. His top-five Germans, Kobe Bryant, Stefan Curry, Michael Jordan,
Starting point is 00:13:14 Kevin Durant, and Tim Duncan. Jeremy, what's up with this list, bro? This way you started, this what you started with? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're getting right to it. That's wild. He might, I don't think he like Brian. You know that Miami? You know that Miami?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Smooth say because he ain't come to Miami. He's like, man, I ain't. It's got to be that. Ain't no other reason you lead that man off your top five list. What do you know? You think so. Ain't other reason. I agree.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I agree. Because I ain't going to lie. If I had, if I do a top five, brunt definitely enough. Every time. I don't know. Yeah, bam, he definitely must be salty that, you know, Brian then picked the heat. Germany, did you think he was going to the heat, bro? I thought it was a possibility.
Starting point is 00:13:55 but I think since they took them chocolate chip cookies it was over. But you ain't have Philly. You ain't have him going to Philly. Nah, I didn't have him going to Philly, but Philly going to give him chocolate chip cookies. So he got to go. Hey, hey, Smooth.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Boogie Cousin says Tim Duncan needs to be, he needs to be in everyone's top five. He said, chat, let's take a listen to what Bougie said. Y'all, let's listen to it. I don't want to hear no top five without Tim Duncan in it.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I respect that, bro. Ladies and gentlemen. That's just how I feel. I think he's one of the most disrespected. Fuck the basketball part. Just winners of all time. But why do you think? I mean, is it the Old Navy?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Is it the Baggy Fits? Is it the Burkestock? It wasn't sexy. Yeah, it wasn't sexy. You know, he wasn't as marketable as these other guys. And he's not all, I mean, he's almost like a yokech. Since he's stepped foot in the L, he won. He's done nothing to win.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I believe I may be wrong, but from my knowledge, I think he's the most winningest player of all time. So, if that's not top five, on top of all the accolades that come with it, I don't They've made the playoffs every year, right? He's never had a losing season. Damn near 20 and 10, get out of the car.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's never had a losing season. That's incredible. Hey, he got, a, buddy got some valid thoughts. Smooth, what you, what do you think about there, bro? Yeah, I mean, when he put it in that perspective, you get to throwing those numbers, out there. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I mean, he's definitely a guy that it's kind of like a step, like Steph Curry did. He built, he helped build that San Antonio Spurs franchise and he helped Pavlovich become one of those coaches that was respected for it still to this day. He's definitely, definitely top five, one of those prototypical fours that that was probably the best to ever do it. Oh, for sure. It's hard to leave him off that list. It's hard to leave him off that list, man,
Starting point is 00:16:00 because he didn't did everything you can think of in this game. And he don't get the love because he ain't loud. He ain't boisterous. But he gets the job done. And ain't many people that love the hardworking guy that just gets the job done. Y'all just had one on hit Tony Island. He don't get the love he deserved.
Starting point is 00:16:16 So that's a part of what it is. But real hoop was no what Tim Duncan did and what he means to the game and what in terms of, you know, bringing people along and teaching them the right way. to do it. Yeah, it's, you know what it is, man? It's because he doesn't do it with a flare. You know, he just go out there the big fundamental. He just get it done, bro. Like, look, I'm going to tell you, I played against a few playoff series against him. So, man, and I think it was 2003 when I first got
Starting point is 00:16:45 to Phoenix, well, that's like my second year in Phoenix. When we had Stefan Marbury at the one, we had Penny Hardaway at the two, Sean Marion at the three. I can't remember who was like four and five. But I was backing all these dudes up. But anyway, oh, it was a Mari rookie year. And we played against the Spurs in the first round. We were to A-C. They were one-seat, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And, you know, Marry was young, but Tim couldn't stop him, but he couldn't stop Tim neither. But he was hitting him with basic stuff. Like, just turn around, jump hook, off the glass. Boom. Show it. Up and under. Bro, he was so technical and fundamentally sound.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Like, it was. it was awesome to watch because guess what when he got it going and then you're sitting the double now you got Tony Parker now you got Genobley now you got Bruce Boyn you got all these other guys and he knew how to make those guys better so I know it's hard to meet him out to top five fellas
Starting point is 00:17:41 but I think it's preference bro it's definitely preference smooth give me give me your top five power fours man give me give me your top five power fours five power fours I got to go definitely Duncan.
Starting point is 00:17:56 One. You putting in one? I mean, I would, yeah, yeah, I am. I am,
Starting point is 00:18:02 I am, sure. You got, you got, you got, um, Kevin Garnett. Oh,
Starting point is 00:18:10 yes, sir. For sure, for sure, KG. Man, I got to go Rashid Wallace.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh, man. That's not, that's not any, any kind of, uh, number. I said,
Starting point is 00:18:19 I seen, I seen, she, you about 36. I seen, she, you about 36. I was damn.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I said, damn, who got she? Man, that big pot yeah, Brian my fry me.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I'm sitting there trying to wait for him to go to the hole like the whoops on me. I'm still scrambling, man,
Starting point is 00:18:36 that wasn't a good match of that wasn't a good matchup. All right, you got she? Who has you got? Sheet? Um, you got to go James Worthy.
Starting point is 00:18:47 They ain't old school? You got to go old school worthy of it? Yeah. Oh, man. Let me see. And Pete, your pops. I know Pete was a shooter, though.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So he had to slide him up a little further on up. So people gave to the shooter, man. Who would I say the fifth one would be? Man. You had to go like... I'm going to have to go Caram alone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Okay. German, give me your four. Give me your five, power fours. And no order. Tim Duncan. I don't know how he ain't say Charles Barkley because what he was doing. He was thinking.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I'm going to take Carl Malone. Give me Charles, man. This is my list, brother. This is my list. Don't go, don't step on my list. Hey, wait, whatever. Look, I'm going to make a trade, man. I'm going to trade.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm going to put him out of there, man. Get him out of there for Mr. Barkley, Mr. Chuck himself. I got to go. I probably got to throw KG in there because of what he meant to his teams. I stepped on that court. I think you're missing dirt a little bit too. Ooh. And I got a round this list off with somebody.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This is a wild, wild number, but he wasn't a score, but he changed his teams. Dennis Robben. Oh, man. Well, you grew up a Chicago kid, so it kind of makes sense. I'm saying back there, Jeremy, when you was watching the game, did you really understand it? Like, how were you?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Hell no, I understand what was going on. I just know he made. a lot of noise and he colored his hair. I didn't know what was going on. But as I got older, was able to understand, man, that man meant everything to every team he played for. Oh, my goodness. I know
Starting point is 00:20:35 I know MJ like a god in Chicago, bro, so growing up there, I could imagine, you know, you being immersed in it because as a kid out of Little Rock, Germany, I ain't missing no games on WGN. I'm catching every game every night. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Who's my favorite team? I know. I know Jack going to kill me with that, too, but that's okay. What's that? The tag don't kill me putting Dennis Robin in there. I got to put the mailman in there. Hey, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Smooth. The Bulls was my favorite team. And then when Orlando got Penny, that was like my first NBA game I ever went to, my best friend, BG, his pops. His pops took us, his pops took me, him and my other best friend, VALT, took us to our first NBA game.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It was in Memphis. Orlando was playing against the Bulls in Memphis. Scottie Pippen played. for the bulls, you know what I mean? Penny played for Orlando. He's from Memphis. Oh, man. That was like, that was my first NBA game, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It was crazy. So I get it. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all?
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Starting point is 00:26:16 I'm Yamanika, and I'm out. Listen to you're the problem with Yamanika on the eye. Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I get it. Rick Brunson. Rick Brunson, on being the coach to his son, Jalen Brunson. Rick said, we have a rule. Just like Josh, you can cuss me out on the court, but if you cuss me out off the court,
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm a father. I'm going to get my damn belt. Smooth, smooth. You think you could have played for your father's, bro? You could have played for Pete. Absolutely, yeah. I was playing for him without playing. When what?
Starting point is 00:27:05 I was playing for him without playing for him. He used to come back to the behind that bitch. It cussed me out so smooth. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was at the right temperature, especially in high school. You know, at you, you know, they let your parents, especially when you cold and they let your parent kind of do a little bit, you know, do what they want to do a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Hey, man, listen, I commend Rick Brunson, bro, because for you to be able to coach your son, and Jalen Brunson, you know, for your pop to be. I coach you. Yeah, think about that. I'm watching them in the finals, bro. Is he warming up? As Jalen warming up, his dad passing on the rock?
Starting point is 00:27:41 Come on, German, man, this stuff we only dream of. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's dope that the dynamic is what it is. You can cuss me out on the court, but I want to call you, I'm still your father. Like, I think because Rick played, he's bright enough to understand when and where to press and when to let up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah, I think that's a hell is dynamic. I commend Jaylin more than anything because as far as you want to, that is a dream of ours to be able to coach our kids one day and then to be able to allow us to be able to do it. But I commend the son because for him to be able to be willing to embrace it and understanding his dad is going to wear multiple hats for him and his life, for him to be able to know which hat he's putting on at that particular moment. And for him to be able to appreciate that is big,
Starting point is 00:28:29 Because, you know, if you, me and T.A. was having this conversation. It was, and I think a lot of, a lot of us had these, had, had these kind of issues when it comes to our sons. When we want to teach them and talk to them, we basically telling them we have the answer to the test, but it's like they want to fail the test a little bit to see if you got the answers for real, for real. You know what I mean? Yeah. I commend the son, like, more so than the dad. You know, the dad is living, living in his dream. because every dad will be willing
Starting point is 00:29:00 and wants his son to be able to understand what they're trying to show them, you know what I'm saying, instead of them taking it personal. You know what I mean? Yeah, man, I mean, that Nick's run not only goes down in history, but, you know, Jalen Brunson, Rick Brunson,
Starting point is 00:29:16 their relationship, bro, that, I mean, that's forever now. You know, they, I mean, they won in New York, German, come on now. We know what we've always talked about, you know, we always know New York is a mecca of basketball. They hadn't won in some odd years. You went in New York, man.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Come on, man. What are they going to put that man statue at? It's coming, too. He might be going to put it in. When they moved out there. Society, too, always wants to, once, even in this air you space that I'm in, they, guys are intimidated to talk to the father. They love to see the woman come around the corner with no dad.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, they run a little game on the head. Oh, man. They flip and dipping and her. They love to see her come around the corner. to her sweet but a lot. You know what I'm saying? Meanwhile, the dad,
Starting point is 00:30:01 you got to be able to kind of shoot shoot them straight, you know what I'm saying? Well, the dad can see through the BS. Absolutely. So, but, but when they do, when they do call it, call the BS out for what it is, now the daddy is crazy or deal with him, man,
Starting point is 00:30:17 he'd be, he'd be disdanced at the third. No, man, this man is, this man's a straight shooting. He wants the best for his son. Yeah. I, hey, smooth. Smooth. I told agree with you. I look at the AJ DeBosca situation. You know, his pops and his mom are right there full
Starting point is 00:30:33 circle, taking care of everything from him, taking care of everything for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And keep the leeches away now. Absolutely. You know, I, eh, smooth. I may not see all of them, Jeremy. You know what I mean? But I'm going to catch a few. I'm going to catch a few, but damn, if you can help me out, you know, hey. Yeah. Because you need, I'm telling, I'm just
Starting point is 00:30:54 keeping it 100, bro. I'm just keeping it 100. It's difficult, it's a difficult, huh? I mean, people used to pull up on me. I used to get my dad number. You know what I'm saying? They used to come. Hey, man, man, what's up, man? Let me highlight you.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Man, boop, get my dad number. Hey, okay, I got you. Boops into my dad number. I'll send him right down the street. Hey, think about this now, though, German, smooth. Hell, now we ain't got to do nothing. I'm just going to slide in, and buddy DMs. Hey, hey, hey, young man.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Listen, if y' y'all don't think that ain't going on, y'all tripping. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, that's going on to the tempile. Man, Jeremy, you don't think that's going on, bro? You got to check all the DMs. TikTok.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think they got the right buffers around them. They got the right buffers. Like you were saying, AJ DeBancin with his family, them kids can't even get to him. And AJ is such a different kid. I don't know him, but from hearing him speak and understanding his demeanor, I think he's in the right headspace, right?
Starting point is 00:31:55 mind. That's the biggest key, bro. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's why I love some of these young kids that got that mindset of understanding what it is and what they are. And I feel one of the ones that are. I think like the top five or top,
Starting point is 00:32:07 most of the top picks of this year's draft have a strong, you know, forefront when it comes to the parents. You know what I'm saying? Caleb Wilson, his parents are, his life. And they, you know, they locked in. You got the boozers.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Then you got Darren Peterson. and also like you said we just said AJ the Bancor all those guys Mikhail Brown it looked like a Cuff parents is solid and connected around him so all these guys that are being successful in this space it looks like it's coming from a two-parent household or if it's not they're allowed the mom is allowing the father to be present right and it looks like they're all great kids
Starting point is 00:32:54 and for me for a guy who really enjoys watching the game playing the game I mean still to this day live and breathe it like I like saying cats bro who really enjoy playing the game AJ love playing the game
Starting point is 00:33:10 Caleb love playing the game Dan Peterson loves playing Booze loves playing A Cuff like I like to see that part you know what I mean because the passion that you have for the game bro you can't hide that
Starting point is 00:33:24 Either you enjoy playing or you don't. And all them dudes, I mean, they all been having a microphone in their face for the past probably four or five years. And it's going to be all the way through the pros. And we've seen these guys work since they was in junior high school. So it's a good group. It's a good group. Good group.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Hey, Jimmy Butler had a big reaction to this magic trick. Chat, watch this. I don't play with the snakes. I don't know what the wrong. I swear to God. Smooth, you mess with snakes, bro? Yeah, I got one. You got a snake?
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, I got one, man. What kind of snake you got? A little python. How big is it? She big, man. She's shit, pretty big. It's a big one. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Maybe like this, this, think around. It's big, though. It's a nice thing. How long, you had it? About four years. I had it when it was that size. I bet you can't go tell Jet to bring it in. You can't get Jet to bring it on camera?
Starting point is 00:34:57 You want me get it? I'll get it. You want me get it. Yeah, go get it. Go get it. Go get it. Go get it. Go get it.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Hey Joe, that snake shot you. You got a snake. Jeremy. Listen to me, Jeremy. Boy, it's a couple of things I don't play with, okay? I'm glad he told me he got to think I was just over to the man house the other day. I bet I don't go over there no damn more. Listen.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Look, man, I don't play with snakes and I don't play with spiders, bro. I'm sorry, chat. Them two things, boy, if you want to see you, boy, act a fool. You hear me? I'm getting on down, man. I don't play by no. Jeremy, you mess with snakes and stuff, bro? Hey, I watch a lot of snake stuff on.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I got to get her. I got to get her. I'm just, okay. She, she doesn't swear to stuff up because she's trying to, she probably was sleep. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:35:45 But look, you see it right here? Damn. I'm fin her. Oh, no. Smooth inside. Look, I'm trying to get it. Hey, hey, hey. Oh.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well, I'm trying to get it to come out. Look. I'm trying to get it to come out. You see how big she is up. Oh, damn. She doesn't sweat up in the damn. and the dang thing. I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:36:05 small, how long you had that? Like four, five years? To overcome my fear of snakes, I bought a snake. Oh,
Starting point is 00:36:13 hell. I don't know what they do. That is. Oh, no, sir. Hey, I'm glad you told me
Starting point is 00:36:18 you had one boy. Hey, either you didn't have to meet me. Yeah, I'm going to let her come out. I'm going to leave her long so she can come out. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:36:28 She's going to come out in the minute. Jeremy, what's the biggest fear? What's your biggest fears, bro? animals? Yeah. I don't do large animals, man.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I don't know. They might have a bad day. I don't do horses. I don't do none of that. They might have had a bad day. You never know. They ain't going to take it out on me. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Hey, hey, smooth. Come on. Yeah. You ain't got no fear of no animals, bro. No rodents or nothing? No, them big cats, though. You know what I mean? The lions and them tigers.
Starting point is 00:36:58 All they going in the cage with them and all that stuff. I'm cool on. that, though. Oh, no, sir, Reeve. I ain't playing with my life like that. How this man got a whole snake over there and I ain't even know when I was over there? Well, I would not have came in that house. I'm glad I know now, though.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Ooh, I'm glad I know now. Damn. I'm saying smooth of kids play with and all that. Yeah, actually, yeah. My seven-year-old, Drew, he played with it the most. He thinks it's so cool to go in there and pull it out by myself, he think he's the bravest. He just wants to show people he's brave.
Starting point is 00:37:34 No. Yeah. She was going on. Look, her head and I came out. You see it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, sir, Reeve.
Starting point is 00:37:44 She's, she ain't hungry, is you? I don't know. You don't know. No, I mean, I fed her, what? Last week, she ain't hungry. Now, she ain't hungry. Hey, cool. I'm just making sure she on you.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That, look. she might yeah I mean they say hey hey hey hey my oldest it's a snake bro I remember we had a conversation about
Starting point is 00:38:10 we was in Houston and um Dwight had Dwight had a snake and he was trying to he was trying to prove it to everybody that a snake is better than a dog and like people was arguing like
Starting point is 00:38:24 man get the hell on like so James like man you can't tell a snake like hey man get the hell on like Stop! No, move, move. You know what I'm saying? So he was like, yeah, no, you can't. But it's still the best, it's still the best animal.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Then, like, the next day, he had a snake, took it out of the cage and bit him. He couldn't practice. He had to miss practice because it bit the snake bit him. Man, my oldest, Gavin, he asked me about two years ago. He was like, Pop, man, I want a snake for my birthday. You're going to have to get the hell up out of here. Ain't no way in hell no snakes there in him, man. What?
Starting point is 00:39:04 She's going to come on out now. Oh, no, I can't do it, man. I can't do it. I'm sorry. Smooth, I ain't know that, bro. I ain't know you rolling like that, partner. Yeah, I was slipping. Yeah, a little snake of it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Hey, check us out. La Hennessy. You say, what's her name? Hennessy. Hennessy. Hennessy. Yes, yeah. Oh, no, sir.
Starting point is 00:39:31 A point. Yeah. She's trying to come. She's trying to come. She's trying to get out of it now. Come on. Oh, no, sir. She knows what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:39:42 She don't know what you say. She doesn't know what you say? Come on. Come on. Come on. Oh, yeah. Good to see. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:44:36 Open your free high-heart radio app. Search Delivering Happiness with Nick Tutorough. And listen now. Hey, hey, chat, chat. Let's take a listen. Let's take a listen to TA. No, but just think about it. Anything you put LeBron on, we can make any scenario.
Starting point is 00:44:52 When they play, let's just say, okay, see, do you think LeBron starting out the game on KD to risk picking up two fouls? No, he's going to stick self-elotion. So you got 41, minutes is sticking sevilotion. Gang get tight, late down and stretching the last two, three minutes. You get a chase down block here and now. Then, now you get the win.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Now you're just our first team ball defense. I disagree. Because Tia, I disagree. I love this. Chase down blocks. I disagree. I disagree. Me on the other hand.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Me on the other hand. Hey, it's all. T.A. We're going to need you to come through on this one. You can't let him get his average. And he ended up with 40. I get a few more episodes of that. I'm gonna be in the G-League.
Starting point is 00:45:35 You see what I'm saying? That was my job. That was my title. That's what I had to do. That's how I played 14 years. It wasn't because I had a cold crossover. You saw me smoke all the layups. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:45 But you know what? I bring you not getting your average to the table every night. Let's read some comments. Yeah. Oh, I've been getting them to. Come on. I didn't disagree. I wasn't hating, man.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I was just saying he's not a better defense. What? What do you think about? What did you think about what T.A. said, bro. I'm saying. Like, what was the question? So listen, so here it is. So look.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I ain't saying, you're a better defender than LeBron or what was the question? No, he's saying he's saying Brian ain't no lockdown defender. He's saying that, you know, when games start off, it ain't like Bronn Guard and Katie for the whole game. It may put somebody else. He may put, they may put Bron on cephalotia so he don't pick up two files early.
Starting point is 00:46:32 But then in the last seconds of the game in the fourth quarter, Brun get a chase down block or something, he gets a stop. He's saying that ain't like, you know, that ain't first team. That ain't like, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. What you think, bro? I got snubbed a lot of times on the defensive team, so I don't know, man. Yo, hey, hey, but I think, I don't, I think.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Got snubbed a whole lot. Yeah, you did, bro. But, uh, did he ever guard? Did he, when we played, when we played it, who guarded you? Well, you know, uh, he never, to start the games off, he never guarded me. But smooth, that's kind of understood, bro. That's understood. That's understood. Because
Starting point is 00:47:12 we can't risk. I can't get him guard it. I mean, he's making, he's making sense out of, he's making sense out of it, you know what I'm saying? Bro. When I was a rookie, smooth, and I'm playing with Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce,
Starting point is 00:47:25 Paul Pierce third in the league and scoring at 27, 28 the game, right. He's the starting three. I'm the starting two. Listen, we're playing against T-Mack, Vince Carter, Ray Allen. I got all these dudes for the first three quarters, bro, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what it was. Yeah. That was me, too, though. You know, you know, that was me. I had to, you know, I had to guard pretty much every position that was cold. So, I mean, I get what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I get what he's saying. But that doesn't mean that he's not a great defender, though. You know what I'm saying? That don't mean, that he just, that means that he has more value than a person just playing defense, respect. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, we can, we can, we can, we can bank on you. Like, it's okay for you to file out, but we can't, we, this, this dude can't file out.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Right, right. Not LeBron James, you get what I'm saying. They're what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. But, but, but, but, but in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, I understand what you're saying, because there are times. because there are times when you start off the game, hell, you don't got no choice. When we played against the Miami-Heed and DeWay,
Starting point is 00:48:41 I ain't got no choice. Me and D-Wa, got to guard each other the whole damn game. You know what I'm saying? That's just what it was. So I see what T.A. saying, but I think LeBron is above-average defender, bro. I mean, smooth. He, 2008, 2009,
Starting point is 00:49:00 he finished second and defensive player to year behind the White Howard. 2012, 2013, he finished second behind Mark Gassau. I think this really would have come down too smooth. You want me to keep it real with T.A. and Brian, you know, obviously T.A. playing with the Celtics. You know what I'm saying? That little rivalry they had against Cleveland when he was in Brown, even in Miami. But not on top of that, maybe even some of the things that Bronn may have said about Memphis.
Starting point is 00:49:30 You know how T.A. T.A. and Zibo out of the mud. They, hey, them boy, Memphis, till they D-I-E, you're me? Yeah, facts, big fan. You know what I'm saying? So it can be stemming from a lot of different things, bro. You never know. But when I think about it, I'm like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:49:46 T.A. is out of here wildly. He must be a... We got to do a wellness check on them. The black trucks ain't pull up on them? Yeah, I don't know. He must be over there. He must be on their indica, too, or something. I don't know where he got going.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He ain't on that intigua. He on that crush. Man, please. Yeah, you know. That gas ain't going to hate talking like that, man. Family. Huh? What to do?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Oh, there you go. Hey, what's happening? What's happening? Hey, my boy, D.C. Y'all fly. What's up, baby? Hey, what you got going, man? Man, what you got going, man?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Slowbo's your time. It's up. John. Hey, man, listen. Hey, me, a boy, smooth, Josh Smith. You feel we're going to kick back. Keep back chilling. First of all, man.
Starting point is 00:50:32 with some real great ATLL just really. Hello. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hello. Yeah, we appreciate you. No, it's love, man. Soon as they called me.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Soon as they called me, said, well, I said, well, that's nothing. Hey. Hey, we appreciate you. We appreciate your time, bro. We appreciate it. Hey, what you got going, man? What's new? Would you guys any movies, comedy show?
Starting point is 00:50:56 What you got going? Man, we working right now. I'm going back on the tour. You dig what I'm saying? For it to go crazy. Oh, we got some short. Furnacles for gonna pop off. You dig what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So we got some more music for the pop off. You dig what I'm saying? Hey, man. I'm on that. Oh, G. Hey, you don't never start working, do you, man? No, I don't even know how to do that. I'm really trying to fit.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I'm trying to put sleeping in my schedule. Hey, hey, man. I love seeing you on Wilden now. I love seeing what you doing with 85 Southview, Carlo, Chico, bruh. Yes, sir. Hey, you boys some real food. over there, man.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We appreciate it. That you all do, bro. We really do. I appreciate it, man. We've been watching y'all, man, since we were nigger Jits and just, you know what I mean? It's just an honor.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Just every time I see you at the arena, you feel what I'm saying? I always show love because I remember the time when I used to come down there and watch y'all. I remember the time I used to come down there and watch you, you feel what I'm saying? So Jip, I was eating them. Knowing y'all and
Starting point is 00:51:54 you feel, and I'm going to still be real. Your dunk contest is still the best one. You hear me? Sir. Yeah, sir. That's family. I remember I took my daughter, bro, to the host game smooth. It was about a year, year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And I walk in there, I see DCL fly, T.I, two chain. I said, damn, did y'all get out the same car? Okay, we're in. Hey, listen. Welcome to Atlanta, man. Welcome to Atlanta, actually. Hey, hey, listen. Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Hey, my daughter, like. So, I got a question for y'all. Like, what's up? Now that you see how the city is embracing. in the Hawks, bro. Do you remember a time when people was coming to come see the Hawks?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Like, has there ever been a time where folk were really were just pulling up? Like, I remember probably when Dominique were playing, but like it was like everyone, niggas, one thing. I hear, I hear,
Starting point is 00:52:46 they were kind of pulling up for the other one name. Hey, hey, after about, I ain't going to lie to you, D.C. After, it took us about three years. I got here the first two years, well, they were brutal. I ain't going to lie to.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. They were brutal. After that? picked up when you came. First of all, Josh, when you came it gave super excitement. Like, we were... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Nothing. Hey, hey. That's thanks, though, bitch. Hey, that's one thing I love about it. So, growing up, growing up, man, you know, man, the town went in the Hawks, boy, Nathaniel, boy. And the great part about it, we want to chill for them.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Like, we want to chill. You feel what I'm saying? So, yeah. Yeah. Just seeing the energy now, like, in the arena, bro, it's like, hell yeah. Hey, hey, look, that's how I always, that's how I always envisioned it, bro. You know, when I came here, like, the city jumping too hard,
Starting point is 00:53:41 brus the capital of entertainment. It's like you have so many guys coming out, you know what I mean? Right. Like, I just felt like, man. You like excellence, man. It's wide open. It's wide open for somebody to come over and take over. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Hey, so speaking of that, D.C., what you think about the hogs, bro? What are our chances look like? Considering the fact. Now, we know... The close-out game... Hey, the close-out game was ugly. We know that. We leave that long.
Starting point is 00:54:07 We ain't even got to go down. Come on, Jay. By 80. Hey, listen, listen. Look how the Knicks did it every damn body else. Okay. But look, I do say that we gave the Knicks, they energy, they uff.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah. And to kick ass. Yeah. They ever since them two wins, we got, them boys turned up and did not stop. They did. You did what I'm saying? I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 00:54:30 bro. I feel like we need a real solid. I want to say Bitman because we got some bitman. I only want to say we need a Dennis Rodman show. Yeah, you're saying, yeah, we need somebody to wipe their glass. We need somebody to go get them 50 third chance shots
Starting point is 00:54:51 because the Hawks, we good off of our first chance shot. After that, if we miss. It's a rap. It's a rap. Hey, listen, I think the Hawks in good hands, bro. I think it's going to be a... I think we're super good now. Oh, yeah, it's going to be even better.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Hey, look, look. Hey, look, when me and you was there, you know, we allowed me, you two chains and TI, two chains already. He's been had, you know, his season tickets. Right, right. We talked about, hey, hey, we're talking about season tickets, right, smooth. So look, yeah, after we got to talk about season tickets, I look up, D.C. got him a damn job in there.
Starting point is 00:55:29 He's like, hey, I'm good. I'm trying to cut them seeds and tickets in half, babe, buddy. Hey. Hey, holy up. Hey, I think you're cutting hair. Hey, I feel, you know, bro. Hey, you know what? The city, you know, the city love you, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:49 They embrace you. You know what I mean? Especially when you do the little halftime days when you interview people. Yes, sir. If I'm keeping it real, D.C., when we did that interview about, that was last season. Right. their interview at the Hawks.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Everything kind of changed, bro. People started hitting me out of there as far as trying to get, trying to do different things. Because I hadn't done a lot of interviews and things like that. You know what I mean? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I want to appreciate you, bro. I want to appreciate you for that opportunity, my dude. Oh, man, they love, man. And, you know, that's what our platforms is for, bro. You feel me? To just cross brand and show another side of people. You feel what I'm saying? Like, we, we ain't got to go talk to the other side,
Starting point is 00:56:25 you feel? We can go talk to our people. And when we had these talks of conversation, bro, like, you also got to understand. People don't be understanding that we really tight, we really cool. So when they see us kicking in, when they see us having these conversations and they get to hear our intellect, they're like, oh, that's who these folk really is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh, it made me respect their game way more, you feel? So anytime, OG, anytime. Oh, yeah, yeah, man. You know what? Me and Smooth might have to pull up over there on you and Carlos and Chigo, man. You all be over. Hey, wait, and my. Hey, got to go 85, bud.
Starting point is 00:57:01 What did you say, smooth? Got to go 85, bud. Yeah. That's nothing. Oh, but when you're ready. Hey, and my boy Nav over there, too. My boy, nah. Yeah, that's my guy right there.
Starting point is 00:57:14 That's my dog's for real. That's a partner partner right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man. Hey, hey, last time I talked to you, too,
Starting point is 00:57:23 I know you were telling me about that knee, man. You get that knee fix. Hey, man. And the meniscus is all the way good. We back, we back in the gym. We back playing golf. I bow. Y'all bowed.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Oh, yeah. I, yeah. What's your high? What you say? What's my high? Yeah. You know, you catch me on a good day, D.C. I bow like a, I bow like a 220 or something.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Two, two. That's my honor. What about you? You like that, like that? Oh, I got $279. Oh, man. Come on, bro. What you doing?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get that three hundred, man. That's my goal. Oh, man, you, hey, hey, smooth, he won't them do. You don't want to go bowling with him, bro. I got six bowling ball, man. Oh, he got six bowling. Oh, he, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh, so you're in bowling leagues and all that? Hold on, so you're in bowling leagues and all that? It depends on how the lane is. I got to adjust, man. You feel me. Yeah, yeah. I like the real-to-do it. Like the whole school playing.
Starting point is 00:58:23 A hell of a team, bro. Hell of a team. Boy, well, could y'all. Hey, I know we won seven games and with y'all and y'all end up winning. After we took y'all seven, Cleveland took them seven, and then y'all won it in less than six. So, you know, we kind of hang out ahead on that, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:43 We ain't have a chance in Boston, but in the A, y'all letters. I'm already known. I'm already going. Hey, I'm still, hey, I'm still, I'm still mad at you, though, bro. You ain't had to do my man Leon Powe like that, man. Oh, hit him with.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Oh. man, hey, T-A, T-A, T-A, you know it ain't personal. It's just business, baby. You already know it. You know what I said? Anta-look-to-look-de-law. I said he just came off of two-ACL surgery. Killen trying to send them back to the MRI.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Hey, man. T.A., you built your reputation in the NBA by locking people up. If you had to pick one player, bro, an NBA history that you wish you got a chance to guard. Tell me, who would it be? I don't want to be so cliche. Mike? Yeah, I was thinking, Mike. I'm talking about that 92, Mike.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm that 93, Mike. Yeah, I'm talking about that one with, not the one when he came back, and he took the time on. I'm talking about that early on, Mike, when he was doing all this shit in the air. Oh, yeah, all yeah. Tia, you want something that smoke?
Starting point is 00:59:49 I would have loved it. Because, I mean, I think, I think I would have pretty much stuck him a lot like I stuck cold. See, with cold, a lot of people don't know is I never let him go right. You know what I'm saying? You ain't going to right on me, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:03 If you go right, you might throw it on my head. Yeah. But if you go left, I know if you go left, you ain't stuck with that pump faking that step back or whatever. You see what I'm saying? Got to stay down. And if you're taking off like this with that left hand, I might bump you a little bit and contests with my right.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Josh, no, I'm talking about. But what I'm saying is, bro, back then he gave you a little more. He was too exciting back then for the game. And I think I would have loved it. You know what I'm saying? lock up with that excitement. Oh, yeah. I feel you.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Hey, Smooth. If you had a chance, I know, I know you, you know, when you play, you let your man get by you because, you know, it's just some things you can't teach in elite athleticism. I'm like, damn, man, why you let that man beat you something for them at the rim? Oh, that was purpose? That was purpose? Yeah, it was on purpose, man. Dunk on me sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I want to see what you're, I want to see what you're at leastism talking about. Yeah. Oh, that shit is a skill, huh? It's a skill. You got to let him feel like sometimes you got to let him feel like he got it. Oh, yeah. Let him get a step on you a little bit, and then you just got to go and meet him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:12 You want, you, you're a super elite at that. A. TA, now, we're going to go on get to the little elephant that's in the room. You know, you've been in the headline lately, you know, about what you said about LeBron, about he's an overrated defender. We're trying to see, man, me, the chat, smooth. We want to know what's up. Hey, so let me get this clip, bro. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So let me show you how this thought out. Because, you know, we're in the rural clip, what they call it, clip farm in that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got you. So let me give you a day of Tony Allen, man. I do a local show called Chris Vernon's show. I'm a guest on there.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And it's our Grand City Media team for the Grizzlies. And I attend that podcast every Tuesday. So when I'm coming in, I guess the list had already came out. I'm not too internet savvy. I come up and I came in 04. We ain't had Instagram back then. So I ain't too savvy. Make a long story short.
Starting point is 01:02:07 They asked me, do I want to comment on this list? I'm saying, yeah, I comment on list. They say, well, you might not be happy because of where you rank. So they go through the list, and I'm going through the list. And as you could tell, I was giving people props like Brian our test. Like, yo, he should be way higher. I'm like Dennis Romer, yeah, he should be number one. Or like Gary Payton, he should be.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Like, I'm giving everybody props. So there's one coming from no hating type of vibe. Right, right, right. What I was saying was, and it's really just barbershop talk. Right, right, right, right. I thought that once they got that low into the list, I'm like, damn, why I'm at number 50 or something?
Starting point is 01:02:44 That's how I'm thinking in my mind. Yeah. And so then Brian came up. And I'm like, hold on, but that man got 40,000 points. Then, look, last about two weeks ago, he's going to air. He's been shooting at Memphis for a lot of time.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's bring the whole elephant out. Call it what it is. He's been shooting at Memphis the whole time. Right. By the players that come in town, you ain't really trying to kick it in Memphis. Cool, you might want to go get something to eat, but you've got to get your sleep and get ready for the groundhouse. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's how I was back in the day. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It just ain't that. So now you're going to kill our city on the golf course. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Not only that, you're going to come at my brother and say his award should have been yours.
Starting point is 01:03:32 No, I got to say something now. Because the list right here in front of my face is on point now. Because I could have said something when I saw it podcast. So I took it in the road. I said, hold on, let's be clear. We both on the same amount of teams. Every team he made, I made. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:46 So you ain't talking to no local joke on that. Right, right, right, right, right. So I just felt like, all right, with my job, every day, what I got to do, man, to come to this court, man. If I don't come here and make it difficult for the opponent's score, they're going to be looking at T.A. like, what's your value? Right, right. My value in that era of basketball was at the point was, don't let them get their average T.A. That's going to help our ball club.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Hello. And so if I got to do that night in, night out, at limited minutes, he on the court for then 46 minutes. You mean to tell me if you got to play defense every minute you're on a second to a guy that gonna play it occasionally. Well, T-A. T-A. T-A. T-A.
Starting point is 01:04:30 We're not negating the fact that you do it better. We think you do do it better. But the thing is, LeBron has to do, he has so many damn jobs on the court. Okay, he got to score the ball. Smooth. I got to assist the ball.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Damn, I got a rebound the ball. Hell, I'm leading the team in steals. On top of all that, I got to defend the number one guy, the entire game. That's not possible. He can't exert all that energy and 10 of these other jobs. But get what? But guess what?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm stepping it. But get what? I got to do that. And if I don't do that, hey, I'm going to be playing for the hour bulldogs in the G league. And that's understood because it's like shit down. TA ain't told all them damn jobs. But if T.A. lock in defensively, that's all you doing all night.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Oh, yeah. You're going to be better than him in that. There's no question. You're saying he was hiding you on the list? mad at me on the list. And I said, and I couldn't believe it because I'm like, damn, hold on. Man, LeBron just greedy.
Starting point is 01:05:29 He won all awards, man. He's talking about somebody down, bro. T.A., when he's done, T.A., he's going to have them all. He's going to have a mall, T.A. And one thing I can't say, because I'm locked up with LeBron, too. Like, that time he left Cleveland,
Starting point is 01:05:44 that was my assignment. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Imagine, I'm not comparing myself to him. He averaged 28, 7, and 7. Let's be clear. But what I'm saying, what I did was,
Starting point is 01:05:56 few deflections here and there in key moments, Q steals, a few still there in key moments, cover contested shots where I know he stressed out by my contest. That's my defense, bro. And not only that, I, and no respect to, no disrespect to any guy that didn't average over a dub when I was playing. But if you didn't average a dub, nine times a ten,
Starting point is 01:06:17 I wasn't sticking you. You see what I'm there? That's a fact. I ain't got hit that bump in my gun. I'm saying, no out the hood moment. Hey, man, this is really me on the barbershop. And I'm pretty sure Brian to laugh about this. And smooth.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And smooth, don't you be insinuating the black trucks pulling up? I'm running, man. I'm going to be a funny, man. I care about you, man. I just want to do it. We'll have to check him, but dog. Hey, T.A. But think about this.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Am, you don't think Brian got no valid point, bro. He was first team all defense that year. Mark Gassau won defensive player of the year. Mark Gassau was second team. He ain't got a team. He got a, come on now. Hey, now listen, all right. I don't know why I finished up and voted.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But we talk about our peers. We talk about our peers. Yeah. Man, everybody in their mom and they saw me that son. Said, bro, damn, we thought you were going to get that award, bro. And get what my boy, Big Mark, do. He going to win a ring and put green grind on the ring. So he knows.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He said, hey, man, I ain't giving you my award, but our snap was on the ring. I say, so now, Ron ain't fin to come up, but that's really me and Mark award. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:07:34 You said if you didn't get it, hell long as one of your teammates got, you cool. Be in the game. Yeah. Hey, man, y'all has some hell of a, y'all has a hell of a squad for the Memphis Grizzlies, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:46 You know, uh, hey, man, we appreciate you for stopping by, bro. I'm going to come sit down with you on my boy Zibo, man. You know, hey, I got some. real stories with me and Zbo, bro. Yeah, hey, hey, hey, listen, we want both of you brothers on that, man. I had to come
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