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The Rams pulled off the sixth biggest comeback in tournament history. The second largest second half comeback behind Navajo. 22 point rally against Cincinnati in 2018. For the third time in the last four seasons, the Tar Heels have failed to reach the round of 32 under Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis, biggest blown lead. He had a 15 point lead his first year at Carolina, Joe and Ocho, in the National Championship game.

He coughed that up. In 2023, he missed it. In 2024, number one seed he lost in the suite 16. 2025, first round loss. 2026, first round lost. first round lost and the first round lost this year after having a 19 point lead. I hate saying this, Joe. I really do.

But after watching what Hubert Davis, I mean, they went out early in the ACC tournament, loved Clemson. They lose in the first round of having after having a 19 point lead. And it's a continuation and watch him sit on the sideline and make no adjustment. Because if you watch Hill Jr., he gets it going. They don't trap him. They don't blitz him. They don't do anything to get the ball out of his hand,

and they let him continuously play one-on-one. That's on the coach. How did VCU get back into this game and ultimately win this game in overtime? I think, you know, when they got down, you know, I mean, you can look at it like the last game. You want to, you know, you want to scratch and cloud just stay in the game or get back in the game.

Okay, Ocho. He said, Jr., you got it going. And honestly, this really don't surprise me, okay, Ocho, because North Carolina, Carolina's best player, Caleb Wilson, he's done for the season. Be a top five pick in this NBA's draft. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I would give you that. I would give you that, Joe. From Atlanta, Georgia. Which one? Caleb Wilson. He employed. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he broke his.

He broke, yeah, he had a, he had a, he had, He had a hand injury, then he ended up tearing a thumb ligament, right? Yeah. For this. So that's why I'm saying. That's 20 and 10. You can't make that up. Yeah.

You know what? I would concede that to you. I would concede that to you. But guess what? They had a 19 point lead without their 611 great player that's going to be a lottery pick. So they build a lead without him. You can't say well if they had him because they had a 19 point lead in the second half without him. Go ahead.

they clearly couldn't sustain it. They clearly can sustain it. I'm telling like BCU, they crawl back in their game, bro. It was impressive to watch. But yeah, I mean, North Carolina got great contribution from guys to win the game, obviously.

They clubbed team, but without Caleb, man, I just kind of, I ain't even lied to you, I ain't really been paying attention to the Charhills because I know they ain't going to go far. Yeah. For me, Joe, is that you see a guy heating up. That's rule number one. Get the ball out of his hands.

Why would you continuously let him play one-on-one? When he's beating you, he's beating you off the dribble, he's getting to his spots, he's hitting the threes, and you still do absolutely nothing to get the ball out of his hands. I can see if we get trapped him, Joe and Ocho, and other guys start to heat up, then we're going to have to make adjustments accordingly. And maybe we'll have to play this thing straight up.

But to make no adjustment, Hubert Davis made no adjustment. He continues to let Hill Jr. play one-on-one, and it got him beat. He had 11 in the first half. So he's like, damn, because he kept a minute in the first half. And then when they got down, he got, now he got 16. Now he got, I was like, bro.

And when he got one-on-one with that big and hit that step back, I said, that's good. I said, it's over. Hey, once you give a team confidence, give them some life. Okay, Ocho, it's a rap. It's a hard to turn a team down once they get rolling. Once they get steam rolling, that's what happened with VCU. They confidence is through the roof.

Go ahead, Ocho. Now, I'm going to say the Tar Hill game, I couldn't get it out here where I was in New York. BYU, Texas, Kennesaw State, and Gonzaga, where the two games I was able to watch. Okay, yeah. I wasn't able to see that one based on where I was, based on my location. out here. But if you look, I mean, a 19 point lead. Yeah.

Joe, Ocho, as a six seed. Yeah. But like I said, and I don't advocate, but I just think, I just, there's no question in my mind, they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at UNC. That's still a premium program. That's a blue blood. Oh, yeah. That's like somebody going to Oklahoma.

That's like somebody going to Ohio State. That's like Alabama. Michigan, that's USC. That is a premium program. Yeah. And for them to be floundering around and losing in the Sweet 16, not even getting to the, not even getting to the Sweet 16, not even making out of a round of 32.

That's unacceptable for that. Yeah. For that program, for that institution, that is unacceptable. Oh, yeah, because they're too prestige. They're not going to let that continue to go on. Hey, Joe and Uncle, listen, as prestigious as they are, the history that North Carolina has and you're saying him not making adjustments

necessary in game, what if he doesn't have the players to make those adjustments? Even though you're up 19, what if he understand that if I make adjustments, it's going to put my players in certain spots with them being exposed based on who we're playing? You got up 19. Yeah. You got up 19.

Hold on. So how did you do that? Hold on. Stay with me real quick, huh? Yes, I'm here. Hold on. You got up 19 early in the game, right, Joe? No, it was in the second half. Okay, in the second half. So when the other team, the opposing team, makes certain adjustments that you need to, based on what you're doing,

so you can go up 19 and they find a way to call their way back into the game. Yes. Then what do you do? You get the ball out of the hot guy's hand. It's just like a receiver. If you're going off, what do they do? They double you. We're going to make you throw the ball to Chris Henry, rest his soul.

We're going to make you throw the ball to DJ Hushmanzada. We're going to make you check it down. But I've been damn if we're going to let Ocho play one-on-one out here. He's already got a buck 50. and we're not trying to let him get $250. That's what you do. It's simple. Right.

The hot man, basketball, Joe, you see this all. Joe, you know this better than anybody because you played the game at an elite level. A hot guy, they're coming with the trap. Yeah. They come in. They got to get the ball out of your hand. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you.

When you get a guy who get it going like that, you got to try to turn his water off. You got to send two, throwing out of rhythm, you know, make him give it up a few possessions, then let him get it. Yeah, I agree with you. They didn't make no adjustments. And this is what you get. You know, when we are out there competing, bro, it's hard for cats to really be like,

hey, man, come on, switch. Let me get him for a minute. You know what I mean? He's tan you up. Hell no. I don't want to hit it. And that pride kick, he just scored a few, oh. He's like, there, then I got him.

I got him. I got it. And we saw this tonight with Luca. They let Luca play one-on-one. I don't know what Spoh was thinking. You just saw your guy score 83 less than a week ago. Yeah. So you mean to tell me you're going to let Luca play one-on-one?

All he was doing is calling for the high pick. Okay? Hey, he get a, what's the one they got? They just got from the Clippers. They traded from the Clippers. I forget it. Norman Powell. Yeah.

Whoa, wot, wot, wop. I mean, step back after step back after step back. Hey, hey. When he's going to make it that, when he's making that, bro, I'm talking about as deep as he shoot, he can shoot it with a hand in his face. Man, 60 points, bro. 60.

Look what a game at, fellas. Look at the scoring. That's why, you know, this is what people want to see. They want to see these dudes put up these type numbers, man. 60. But I just, it's going to be considering, oh, Joe and Joe. Yeah. Considering who North Carolina is, it's going to be hard for Hubert Davis to go in there

and to convince the alumni, the booster, and the president that he should remain in this role. Given, bro, look at these, come on man, that's, that's Carolina. That's Carolina. That's Coach Smith, that's Roy. Best play out, oh, best play. Hey, hey, you had a 19 point, oh Joe, that's like you play, that's not there.

You got a 24 point lead and then how do you go to the media and say, well, we couldn't, well, you know we was missing Carson. Well, you didn't have Carson when you built the 24 point lead. Yeah. So what did you do? So what, so what happened? Yeah. So you can't, if you, if you lose this game, if you're, if it's nipping tumped, I can give you that.

If you get blown out, I can give you, we don't have our best player, but you didn't have your best player and you built a 19 point lead. Yeah. So now you can't use we didn't have our best player argument. Right. The reason why you lost the game. You lost the game because when one team made the adjustments to cool you off, you didn't make the adjustments to cool their best player. there are. Yeah. Yeah. There has to be like, okay, a chance. When you play a chance, okay, you got moves, but you got, okay, if you see where he's going, you've got the counter moves.

You got the counter. You just can't keep going to the same course of action. And that's what Hubert Davis did. He didn't make any adjustments. He rarely make any adjustments. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what his recruiting class looks like. I think that'll probably determine a lot, too. You know what I'm saying? Does he have any top guys who've committed to North Carolina? More time than not, the one and duns, they go into Duke, first and foremost. Now you see Cal getting a bunch of now at Arkansas, where it was basically Duke and Kentucky for all the one and done. They were getting all the one and done.

So if there were 12 one and done, those two teams had 10 of them. Yeah. Kansas might have got one and then somebody else got arbitrarily had them. Yeah, yeah. Right, you know what he need though, huh? What's that? Instead of finding him, Joe, he need to go to the boosters, go to whoever's in positions of power.

I need a little bit more money to get the players we need to to be able to compete in these tournaments. That's why I have. But here's the thing, Ocho and Joe. Do you believe he can get you ready for the NFL? because when they go to Ohio State, what is the track record show? Those receivers go to the NFL. Those D-Liamen go to the NFL.

Those offensive linemen go to the NFL. Those linebackers go to the NFL. When you go to Bamma, so you're going to some arbitrary school, can he get me ready to go play in the NFL? Can they get me ready to go play in the NBA? Because that's all my, I'm stopping off. I'm going to class the first semester. After Christmas, I ain't going back to class no more.

Hey, hey, you know what, too. We know it's funny, too, Uncle, when you look at some of these players that go to the Alabama's, especially when they come to football, when they go to the Alabama, they go to the Ohio States, they already prepped the NFL ready. It's just about going to the right institution, fine-tune all the other things and attributes that you need

to be able to get to that next level. North Carolina is that type of program. All it is is about how do I track the players that can be NBA ready or that can be prepped for the NBA, how do I get them to come here? If we understand how college is now with the NIL money, hell, what's the one way to get them? You got to pay them. You got to pay them.

You got to pay them to play. You know, whether it's college, I mean, whether it's football or basketball, it, money talks. Yeah. This is the business now. This ain't like college in the old days. We're not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there. Yeah. Just because some of the other prestige players that played the NBA went there.

No, we're trying to get to that bag. Hey, listen. Go ahead. I think even when you look at Coach Cowell situation, Uncle Ocho, at the University of Arkansas, you know, he catered to the players. He lets you know, man, I'm only playing, I'm only playing seven guys.

I'm only playing seven guys, Ocho. He's telling that? Yeah, that's what he telling him. Yeah, he's telling him, I'm only playing seven guys. This is how I was going to go. So, you got, you know, you got a real understanding. And you respect a coach, man, who can be straightforward with you like that, you know what I mean?

And he's like the, the portal, he's like to segue to the NBA for guards, bro. He got, he got, I mean, he's going to have two guards go to the league this year. Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that if you look at Carolina's history, they haven't had a whole lot. They haven't, basically since Roy left, they haven't had that cavalcade of guys going to the NBA. They've been Duke because you see the Brandon Ingrams, you see the Jason Tatum, you see the Zion Williams.

You see the Zion Williams. Yeah. You see the Cooper flag, the Conne Ponepple. Yeah. You see the Jalen Johnson. boom boom boom well that's where I'm going you saw this with Alabama you see this with Ohio State that's where I'm going right understand what used to be mm-hmm Oklahoma doesn't get the same level of player that they once did yeah USC doesn't get the same level

of player they once did so in my process I'm thinking okay Joe if it oh Joe I can get a million dollars to go here or let's just say five hundred thousand I get 500,000 to go here. I get 500,000 to go to Duke. Or I can get 600,000 to go to North Carolina. Where am I going? Duke. Exactly.

Yeah, dude. So unless the money is just astronomical. Yeah. Now, you're talking about, okay, 500,000 versus a million. That's something that put $100,000. And I know what Duke's track record is. Zion Youngson, number one overall draft pick. Brandon Ingram, number two pick.

Jason Tatum, number three pick. Cooper flag. number one overall. Conkin up top top six, top five, top six. I see Jalen Johnson. I see all these guys year after year after year after year. I see R.J. Barrett.

I see Cam Reddish. No, bro, I'm good. Hey, Joe, look what you just said, right? So what you understand in that, right? You still want to give coach a little grace and understanding that I'm not getting the players I need to be able to compete because all everybody going to other places because the money is better he can't attract them see he can't attract them that's a problem in and of itself

too yes I don't care what type of club you got to be relatable to these if you if you want the high rollers to come what you got to have ocho they got to have that money for you got to have them you got to have you got to have them dumb dumb when you go to the club when you go to the club they got by 30 of the things standing right out there, right, and they're ushered them right on the end. Yes, sir. Because those, when the guys see those, they're going to go in there with a bottle service.

That's how it works. So you have to have something to attract them. You're not catching a lion or a tiger with an empty trap. You better throw a carcass in there, a zebra, a, a, a, a wheelble beast or something. Something. You got to attract them with something.

And I'm not. sure North Carolina just the tar hill and the jump man brand. I'm not so sure that's enough anymore, guys. Hey, they got to call Joe, they got to call Mike. Mike, we need to open up the water a little bit more. Nah, it's the playing field too even now. You know, yeah, for sure. They ain't really no advantages no more to go to North Carolina.

Nope. You know what I mean? Like, you know, if you're good, if you're good, they're going to find you, partner. Yeah. Nowadays, it's too many. it's too, too much going on. It's too many ways to be visible. And the way the streaming thing is going,

they stream everything. So they ain't going to miss it. You remember Alabama? Remember how Alabama had that thing on the chokehole, little choke? All the live stars for about 10, 15 a year. The receivers and running backs. Yeah. Back to back.

Back to back. Matter of fact, the funny part to me is, I'm confused. Why do players? especially if you look at the production that came out of Alabama, they had no problem sitting behind each other waiting. They turned. They could have been anywhere.

They was going to find you regardless. Yeah. When you got Mark Endram, you got Derek Henry, you got Alvin Kamarra, you got a Drake, Kenyon Drake, T.J. Yeldon. Yeah. And you're just pumping them out. Yeah. You got to go because if you don't go to the NFL,

you might be on the bench. That ain't going to look good. No. That's not gonna look good. Hey, your freshman year, you run for 900 yards. Your sophomore year, you're a backup. Yeah, yeah. So you got to go.

Yeah. Those wide receivers, you get Julio, and you get Ridley, and you get Amari Cooper. Because here come Jerry Judy, here come Jalen Wattle, here come, here come Henry Ruggs. There's come to Vante Smith. They're coming. You got J-mo. They coming.

You got to leave. Yeah. It ain't complicated. Yeah. You got to leave. Same thing with the D.Bs. Look at those D.Bs. They're pumping them out.

Certain. Arnold. Minka. Yeah, they have some good ones, boy. McKinney. It's a new day. I'm done with North Carolina. I'm gonna find me a new team.

Oh, that was your squad? Yeah. Hey, hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, where you from? Well, from Georgia. Okay. How has North Carolina your squad if you're from Georgia? Are you just?

I don't know. You got to realize, Ocho, just go, just go way back. I first came acquainted with North Carolina. North Carolina came on my radar in 1981. They lost the national championship game to Indiana and Isaiah. That was the same night that president, the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan's life. Okay.

Okay. They lost. Isaiah, Randy Whitman, Rwandando, Turner. Yeah. They had James Worthy. They had Jimmy Black. They lost.

The next year, guess who comes in the next year? Guy with his tongue hanging out of the bottom. Join. Yes. And guess who they play for the National Championship? Georgetown and Patrick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we, we go back 40 plus, I go back 40 plus years with them. Hold on. I got another question. Okay. Yeah. I'm glad you said that.

So you became a North Carolina fan. Yeah. Once when they lost to Isaiahe him, Then Jordan came in the following year because Jordan was there. Okay, now I'm a fan of North Carolina. Yes. So that means you're a fan of Jordan. Yeah, I like Jordan, yes.

Okay, okay. So who's the greatest NBA player of all time? LeBron. Two things can be true. I can like Jordan and believe in George. LeBron is a better player. It's subjective. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. But yeah, we go back. Yeah. When Kenny Smith and they had Sam Perkins, they have Matt Dardy. Which Kenny Smith? James Williams.

Yeah, the jet. He went to North Carolina. He was on a team with, not on that national championship team. Right. He was on the team with, two years after, two years after. Okay. Yeah. Now, they had a squad now.

They had a squad. Yes. Yeah. Oh, when they had Rashid Wallace and Stackhouse and J.R. Reed. Yeah. Oh, that was used to be loaded. Hey, hey, when they had Vince Carter and Antoine Jameson over there too now. Yes.

Yes. Well, you know, Coach Smith, Coach Demme, then he turned him over to Coach Gruthery. Yeah, yeah. Remember because he didn't want to lead the coverage bear? Yeah. Hey, them boy was a show. Yeah.

You're a MJ fan. I've been an MJ fan. Yeah, I'm not. I was just curious. I thought I had you. I thought I had you in the corner real quick. Nah, no, no, no. I'm Luke Wilson.

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against the 16 seed. The three of the previous seven lost their next game, the only one to win on to reach the final four. Georgetown one by one lost in the elite 8 in 89. Was that the Princeton game? I think that might have been the Princeton game. Oklahoma 89. One by one, lost in Sweet 16, Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan,

Duke in 26, Gamzaga, and Illinois. Oh, Illinois, that's when they had, what you call them? That was Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson, Neil. Who was this? Illinois in 1989. I think Kendall Gil and Nick at night was on that team. And Kendall Gill played for the Supersonics, huh?

Uh-huh. Kendall Gill played for the Supersonics? I think, I think so. I don't remember if he did. I remember him playing for it. If I'm not mistaken, I think that was the 89 team. Wasn't that Lou Henson? Yeah, Marcus Liberty.

Yeah, Mr. Basketball. Yeah. Hey, Duke got lucky. Duke got lucky today, huh? They did. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe and if Duke was playing anyone else outside of Sienna, they could have lost that game.

They could have lost to Sienna. See, this. I mean, they could have. But they've got damn boozo boys as hell to deal with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got them, Evans, Evans, Evans was balling, too. Yeah, yeah. But a better team, Joe, a better team outside of Sienna,

they win this game, especially being up double points. Well, the thing is, the thing is Duke, they star and point guard went down. I forgot his name, but he didn't, he, he ain't been playing. I think he out, out. And when you got two freshmen in your lineup, obviously they brothers, they twin brothers. They both played well tonight,

Uncle Ocho, the Boozell boys. They both played well to get them boys over the hump. But if it wasn't for that, because it was looking shake you. I seen them down 10. I said, hold up. Yeah. They watched them on the glass, though.

They were plus 12 on the glass. Cameron Boozer, you know, he had 22, but he hadn't been shooting the ball. He got at most of his points at the free throw line. But he's a load on the glass. Oh, yeah, we're going to load. You got to keep him off the glass now. Yeah, you got to keep him off the glass. You got to make him work, too.

You can't just let him walk down there and just stand right there on the box. Like I say, you got to stop bumping and grinding from the three-point line. As soon as he crossed half court, Ocho, I'm hitting him with their shoulder. I'm catching him right there at the Frito line all the way down to the block. I got to weigh you down. Yeah. You can't let him walk you down, though, Joe. No, you can't.

You can't. Hey, I'm going to tell you how some, any of these guys who can put the ball in the basket, these scores, especially in college, because when I'm watching, I'm looking how they play in defense. Obviously, when you get into, you know, the NBA, defense is a lot different, man. Guys really know how to play. They know how to bump grind, the little nuances of the things. the game they can get away with

but I don't know how far Duke can go man they didn't they didn't really impress me today I ain't got them going to the final four I know that I think I got them winning maybe one more game yeah that's it that's it it's just hard playing on that neutral

sight bro like you ain't really no advantage Ojo yeah that's what I mean hey Duke travel do travel well now oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it'll feel like a home game even though you're not playing, you know, at home. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, look, all these, you know, your Dukes and your Carolinas,

teams like that, that are basketball power, they're going to travel. Just like Ohio State and Alabama, your football powers, they're going to travel. Georgia, they're going to travel. They're going to travel. This is, hey. And they're number one. They're going for a long, long time. Yeah.

And they rank, they rank number one. So they are, number one overall. Yeah, number one overall seats. So yeah, you know they're going to travel. And, you know, Coach K, I mean, Duke is synonymous with Coach K. He was there for such a long time. I remember the first time they first, when he played for the National Championship in 86, and they lost the Purvis Nelson when they had Tommy American and Johnny Dawkins,

Jay Billis. Yeah, yeah. And they lost the Purvis in them in 86, Louisville. And he just been getting, he's. He's just been getting play with him. Yeah. Gray Hill, Thomas Hill, Christian Lake, the Cherokee Park,

trade the labbies, just on and on and on and on and on. Go ahead, don't you want to say something? No, no, no, I'm listening. I'm listening. But, but Duke, hey, what did they say? What's the thing?

Survive in advance. That's what you got to do. And that's exactly what Duke did. Number 11, Texas, gets past AJ, the Barth. and the BYU Cougars, 79, 71, Agent DeBonsa played every minute of the game, but it wasn't enough as BYU has its season

and probably his college career come to an end. DeBanzah, 35 points, was two points out of time. BYU, tournament record for points in the game, held by Danny Age and Jimmer for debt. Matthias, I don't even know I'd say his last night, but he had 23 and 16 for the Texas Longhorns in 33 minutes.

He was 10 or 17. Man, he could have, he was 311 for the free throw line. Who was that? But AJ did AJ things. He, you know, I'm not so sure I'm not taking him number one overall. I think there's too many for me, just for me now.

Somebody else might feel differently. I think there's too many red flag for Peterson. So you're saying you taking AJ 1? I'm taking AJ DeBonza. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the red flag with Peterson, right? What, him taking himself out the game, not being available. Yep. I mean, hold on, but when you look at upside, though, as far as

as making to the next level, who can come in, both, both can come in and make a difference right now. So, Bonza, though. I think, I mean, I can't teach six, seven, six eight. Six nine. That boy, six nine. I can't, I can't teach that, oh, though. Yeah, he, he played well. He played well. He played well. Shoot, Texas did everything they could. God, every time he got the ball, they trapped him, they trapped him right away. Sometimes he had to get, he had to get it, He had to get the ball up off of him. Hey, yeah, that was it. That was his last game, fella.

You think, though. Yeah, yeah. We're going to catch him in July in the NBA Summer League. We'll catch him in Summer League. Come on out here. We get you in the Summer League. That's the next time y'all going to see that boy playing.

You hear me? Yeah. Who got the first pick, Joe? We don't know yet. We don't know yet, but I'm going to just be honest with you. It's a lot of guys who can still improve the draft stop. Yeah. But for the number one pick, I'm almost,

willing to bet whoever whatever whoever team get the number one pick they they're taking a j first i agree with you i think that listen and i think the people know man i know they do everything with a little uh what you call the ping pong balls you think they cheat now i'm not going to say they cheating joe but they know they know for the um you know what what i'm saying you know how they do hey well listen check this out i'm gonna be skeptical if you talk it the number one pick i'm gonna be skeptical because i'm like hold on they didn't kept They didn't kept AJ in Utah for the past two, three years. Hey, let me think about it.

He didn't go to Duke. He went to, he went to BYU. Yeah. He went to BYU. Yeah. Oh, don't they, hey, there's a reason why Utah been sitting there started than the guys, they're playing, the guys having surgery out for the rest of the year. And the NBA don't find them a half a million dollars for pulling that bulljive.

Hey, they're not decreased. They try to increase the ping pong balls. If they get, if Utah Jazz get the number one pick, boy, I'd know something. They, they're going to get it. They don't get it. You know what it should be? Hey, to keep y'all from doing this bull job, everybody get one ball, one ping pong ball. And we pull it out, we pull it out.

Yep. Hey, the killer part is if OKC mess around get the number one pick. Oh, Lord, how much? They don't necessarily need it, but they could, hey, they can secure the future for a long time. They must ride the, I don't even know, I don't even know what they would, who would they trade? They got, they got, they got, uh, chat, they got Hartinstein.

They so, they so lucky right now. They so deep, and they guard heavy. Oh, man. I don't know. I just be thinking of different scenarios. I'm like, man, listen. Man, the number 12 high point stunts, fifth C, Wisconsin, 83, 82. Chase Johnson made a two-point basket of the season on the,

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without making a two-point shot than any other player in the country. Man, I tell you y'all what? Wisconsin? A high point with bowling, huh? I tell y'all what? Yeah, how high point was getting?

So what did y'all have? Ocho had high point, I think. He just looked at that mascot. I told you. Hey, what I was doing? He just look at that mascot. No, I know. I know, I've seen Rob Martin

playing. Yeah, that, that, that, I see right. You don't even know what High Point is. Huh? You don't even know what High Point is. It's insane. Wait, I don't know.

I don't know where it's at. It's in North Carolina. You didn't know where it was. Yeah. Hey. It used to be known as the Furniture Capital of the World. Yeah. Hey, I bet you'll, I bet your bracket all messed up now.

We didn't pick, nobody picked. Nobody picked High Point? Yes. Man, nobody. But I know who picked St. Louis to be Georgia. Who? Did you really? ended up their ass.

Ash, I hate her, man. I think you'll have somebody work for you to be hate. No, hey, Joe, what your bracket look like now? I don't know, Joe, I got to take a look at it. I got to take a look at it, but I didn't, I wouldn't. Oh, we're going to show brackets at the end. But I'm looking pretty good. I know I'm looking better than y'all to.

No, no, no, no. My bracket's still intact. Your bracket is intact. Hey, look, why are you talking about high point? That's who we got next. That's who the Razorbacks got next. Oh, y'all are in trouble, Joe. What you mean we're in trouble?

Yeah, y'all in trouble, Joe. Hey, Ocho, you remember them blinders you're talking about? Yes, sir. Yeah. Hey, hey, tunnel vision, baby, we focus. You hear me? Listen, I know y'all focus, Joe, but who's going to deal with Rob Martin, Joe? Man, listen, hey, look, we ain't worried about that.

I'm just saying they got something for A-Car. What they got? Because ain't nobody had the recipe. Tell me what it is. I mean, they got the recipe. Man, please. Okay. Hey, hey, we,

hey, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, put you in,

put you in uncomfortable situations, Ocho, we, you know, we, we, we play a good

out there, man, them do you look good out there, but I'm raise the back and look, look, I know where

high point is. As a matter of fact, Burr and son went to high point. I think it's like a, like a, like a designer school. Yeah.

You know, yeah, for like interior design and things. like that. Hey, hey, guess what they go design on, huh? It's kind of like, it's kind of like, in the high point of like an artsy school? Hey, hey, I know they had some boys eating their glass. Yeah, they had 40 rebounds and 30. They didn't get their beat that bad on the glass.

They just, you know, Wisconsin didn't put them away when they had a chance to. No. Boy had 22, I mean 27, Blackwell had 22, a rap had 12. but High Point had five guys in double figures. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, we locked in.

But I know High Point messed a lot of people brackets up. Yeah. Oh, of course. Of course they did that. Of course they did. Oh, his high school was High Point? He's from North Carolina. No, he went to Kentucky.

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Yeah, I've been in the high point. Hey, really? Yeah, it was called, I don't know. I don't know. I think somebody told me that, but it used to be called the furniture capital of the world because all the big furniture, you can just go there and you get it at wholesale. Whatever you want? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Anybody, anybody from High Point? Is it still called a furniture capital? Or as a, uh, has the, uh, the crisis, the housing crisis. Did that destroy it? Mm. Mm. It still is okay. All right.

Darius Aikov scores 24 of the Arkansas breezes past Hawaii, 9778. Darius, of course, Aikov Jr. at 24 points and 7 assists. Arkansas moves on to face number 12. High Point in the second round of the West Regional. No, I mean, hey, Ocho, look, we had all five starters and double figures today. Yes, sir.

That mean we're playing great basketball. You hear me? You know, High Point had five starters, I mean, four starters in double figures and somebody off the bench and double figures. That means, look, we had 26 assists. I mean, that mean, we're making plays for air. everybody. You feel me? Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna be hard to guard too. I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about them. What about us? Okay, yeah. Y'all nice. Joe, y'all been nice all year.

Joe. What'd you say? Y'all have to shoot that three ball better. Y'all was 419 from the three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, what it is, see, we hanged a hat on our defense. Our defense, you know, it puts our offense in overdrive. You feel what I'm saying?

Because we get turnovers, we get stops. And offensively, even though we got young guys at the helm at the point guard spot, we don't turn the ball over, bro. We value every possession. We understand the moment. Man, dude, hey, they're ready. We locked in.

All right. They locked in, Ocho. It sounds good. When that game, when they play? Saturday. Okay, yeah. I'm gonna see you on the show, Joe. Saturday.

Yeah, I'm on. You know who's from High Point? Who? Fantasia. Oh, I know she grew up in a good. good church over that way. I don't know about the church, but I just know she's my point. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying

that, hey, this thing like that, that ain't no church background. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's church background. Oh, and Jasmine Sullivan. Yes. All right, let's check the brackets. Let's check the brackets. Let me see, man. Who's up first? You heard me? Huh?

What we forgot, man? Got the Kennesaw State game. Tell us about it. Go ahead. So who's on, oh, okay, okay. That's, my brackets on. top. So let's go hold. We go good. I had Duke, uh, Louisville, Michigan State, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, Carolina, you sorry. Uh, I had Houston and I had Illinois. Uh, I had Arkansas, Gonzaga,

Michigan, St. Louis. Uh, next one is Ocho. Yeah, Ocho. Ocho, Ocho had Duke, Louisville, Michigan State. He won with Nebraska. He won with Illinois. He won with Texas A&M and with Houston. He won with St. Louis, Michigan, and Arkansas. Joe.

What we got? I'm winning. I don't know, Joe. No, you're not. Oh, Joe. Why are you asking for a hard? You and I know, Joe. You had Louisville. You had Michigan State. You had Van, You had Nebraska. You had A&M. You had Houston.

Yeah, you had BYU. You going a long way, Joe. Dinner? Yeah, you did. Damn. Arkansas, Gonzaga, St. Louis, and Michigan. So you had one, two, three,

four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. You had twelve wins, Joe. Ocho had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten wins. and I had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, a level win. Oh, I'm winning.

Right now, Joe is in first place with 12 wins. I got 11. Oh, Cho has a team. Don't worry about it. Hey, Chad. Hey, Chad. There you go. Hey, Chad.

You go see you doing too much, Joe. You doing too much. Can I talk to chat? Chat. Chat. Chad. Hey, listen. Hey, the man don't play by me, okay?

I'm locked in on these boys, man. These boy can't beat me at nothing. I'm locked in. Joe, that's the first round. First, we got a long way to go, Joe. I really were talking to chat. You and Ocho just happened to be on here. I'm talking to chat.

I was talking to chat. Me and Chad having a conversation. Y'all just so happened to be on here, but locked it, right? There you go. I had, man. Hey, North Carolina mess you up. No, I had them to win, but then I'm having,

had them lose the next round to Illinois. Okay, okay, okay. I ain't worried about Ocho. Yeah, he picking mascots over there. We good. Ocho, you got North Carolina, you got North Carolina to beat, had Illinois, got them going on pass. My bad.

I can't worry about it. I was just going up, you know, prestigious school, known for basketball, you know, making it a foreign tournaments, you know. I mean, listen. Yeah, we know. You picked the mascots. My bad.

Okay, Ocho, you want to tell us about the Gensaga game? Hold on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. What's happening? Hey, listen to my basketball prowess. Let me see what you got. Let me hear you.

Yeah. Let me know you're ready. Go ahead. I'm listening. Oh, so, listen, the Zags, the Zags, the Al's game, it was good. Obviously, Kennesaw State being a team that's not as good as the Zags, right, Joe? Right, right. You understand what I'm talking about?

So, every position. possession matters. Every offensive play matters. You know, when you choose to shoot the ball, shot selection matters, moving the ball around, keeping everybody moving, finding the right plays, finding the right shots. Boom, you win in the game. You was winning the game. But obviously, the better team, the Zags, you know, they came back in one. But what I want to say is, right, the thing is, I can't remember the big center. I think his last name was Ike. I-K-E-E. For who? For Kenesaw? For the Zags?

Oh, yeah. Oh, hey, boy, he was here to deal with down in that block. Yeah. Yeah, they was trying to find him. They were swinging the ball and finding when he could. He had his way down there. They had a young bull on the Zags, too. He kept hitting a goddamn three. He wore number four.

Yeah. He came out of his name. It came off the bench. He came off the bench. He got money. He'd get money at the arc, and he putting that ball in the flow, getting to a spot every time. Yeah.

I don't think I got guns at. are going far. I know they always discipline Uncle Ocho when they play, you know. They're going to play a good discipline game, but you know, I don't think I got them going that far. Hey, that's not fair, man, too, man. But Kenesaw State, hey,

you know, Kennesaw State, that's Joe, that's us, that's the naked one. Right down the street. Man, let me see. What, let me see. Oh, King Ice, hey, listen, man, hey look. Hey, look, hey, let me tell you, Let me tell you an Ocho or something. We're coming up on a year, us hanging out.

You know, it's going to April going to give us a year. And until the other day, we had been on the, you know, everything had been on the up and up. We had all been all good. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's just when somebody tried me, Ark, I understand. I, you know, I got to put the smack down.

I got to put out a mean demonstration. And I hate for it to even go away. I really do. Hey, I mean, you know what? you know what you a Joe you ever grew up with siblings no one the child okay hey you have a group uncle you grow up with siblings huh man you know I got a brother the sister okay so y'all y'all y'all get it to us sometime y'all go through little quarrel some time huh man look at it man they got they got all kind of stuff up there with you oh yeah look at

oh Joe oh Joe oh Joe I understand where you're coming from we're just having a little rip but we're gonna we're gonna go get out of fade out the way we still love each other But we gotta get that fade on our way. Joe, listen, I love you like a brother, Joe. I love you like a brother, you know? You feel me? I love you like you my son, you hear-in' you. You're gonna get this work though.

Yeah. Hey, why I'm getting here? Shit, that's what's going to happen? What? Yeah, you're talking about what you think? What you thought was going to happen? It ain't going to happen like that. I ain't got, listen, I got discipline in that ring.

My hand definitely ain't gonna be down like that. I got discipline too, bro. That's the thing. So bad they got, they got Joe, They got Joe with a row. Atlanta Hawk, Role, Big Street, Joe. Hey, Joe, look at this one. They got an Ocho.

That's it. Man, they got Poach. They call it Pocho. Ponocio. Hey. Hey, Joe, you're fin of my rad, Joe. You're going to feel my rad, Joe. You're going to feel my rap.

Man, Joe, I think Joe to hide got his own personal graphics team. Hey, that's the perfect pitch he needs to here. Hey, Joe, listen, Joe, I don't lie or anything I say is from, it's life experience. It's things that I've experienced in life, Joe. Yeah, I got you. I got you, brother. I got you. I love you like a brother, but you're going to feel like you're fighting two people.

We can get in there with me, though. I can see that. Hey, you know what's funny? I don't know. I don't like, the people on the outside they think everything so serious. Like people. Man, look at.

We family. What are y'all? Yeah, they write thing pieces and they write the thesis. Hey, hey. Oh, they, they, they. Oh, but Ocho, you got off easy. They had me on the shade room. They had me on the Jasmine brand.

They had me on everything. saying, Shepard don't love his kids. He don't love his family. Now I see why he's single. I said, I ain't have no problem. I just said, oh, Joe, you to gave joy heads up. But then, then it came out what actually happened. The hate room ain't nobody.

Put nothing up there. Ain't nobody saying nothing. I said, well, damn. So I'm trying to figure out y'all deduced. I hate my kids. I think I did a property, me and the moms did a pretty good job. We got three college graduates. We last one of the resident, got another year of residence

and she'll be a full, a real doctor. I thought we did a pretty good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't love my kids, I hate my kids, I don't like my family, I see why he's single. And everybody that probably said that single just like me. That big thing, oh Joe, they make it see like me and you, the only one that ain't married.

Everybody else, everybody else, be in the chat being married. I was like, man, get your ass out of here. Hey, these people, people in the chat, they're going through the same problems

we go through. Of course. Same everything. I don't know. Everybody's trying to act like they're all perfect and we just happen to live ours in front of everybody else.

That's it. It's, man, oh, man, I was like, bro, y'all take this way too serious. Yeah.

It ain't that serious. Not. It's not. But I, you know what? But hey, you know what it is, though? Go ahead, Ocho. What is it? Hey, Uncle Joe.

What was that? Know what it is? It's great entertainment. It's organic. It's authentic. It's authentic. Nothing is scripted. These things are happening.

They're recurring in real time. Yes. You know, that situation, it was real. Yeah, it was real. Yeah. But we get on here. We talk about it. We jab at it.

You know, you, you, you, you, get on me. Yeah. I accept accountability. It's a real situation. But then we keep going. But we do it in an entertaining format. Right.

Right. But everybody, they take it so serious. Oh my God. And he did this. If I was so and so, I wouldn't mess with those children no more. Wait a minute. God. I mean, hey, I mean, they kind of got some points, though.

I mean, I can kind of see what they're coming from a little bit. You know what I mean? I ain't gonna see it. You can understand. You might not agree with it, but you understand that joke. You gotta see what they're coming from. You know what I mean? I'm, listen, hey, Joe, I don't.

I don't because they don't live in no glass house. I don't live no glass house. They ain't no better than me. I think, look, a part of them, some of them do, some of them not happy for us, Ocho. Oh, they not. I think the vast majority, look, because I think the thing is this,

the street committee, that's what I call the internet. Yes, sir, yes, sir. But for the most part, when you see somebody, out there is all positive. When I see people out there, it's all positive. Joe, you see people it's all positive. I don't get nothing negative, but on here.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't get anything. Only thing is Twitter and IG, I don't have, I mean, I ain't looked at Facebook in 100 years. But that's what it is. But all I'm saying is, if you get something wrong, you know, be bad enough to,

I'm warm enough to say, you know what I was wrong. Right. But the shade room, you got it wrong. But instead of said you got it wrong, you pretend like y'all didn't hear nothing, Jasmine, Brandon, and everybody else that ran with it, like y'all ran with it, come on back. Hey. That's all we ask you to do to come on back.

When Ocho gets something wrong, he'll say, oh, I was wrong with that. I get something wrong, I'm wrong with that. But you take a clip, because you can tell the people that watch nightcap regularly, he's like, y'all missing the point. Yeah. Ocho had asked for the tickets.

Okay, said, okay, said he shouldn't have gone to the thing. Unk said he should have just gave Joe the heads up. That's all I was saying. Right. But they took it, man, Unk don't love his kid. That's why he'd went to the game.

He'd went to the game. He'd win to the game. Hey. No, I wouldn't. I don't really schedule anything. Listen, I, I, man, but we ought to do this. I'll tell you what.

What? There's a reason why we the best there is out there. But sure. And you can't replicate it. Nope. Hey, listen, hey, Uncle Joe, we ain't got to talk about nobody. We ain't got to be negative to get the views of, to be entertaining. Everything is organic.

The stories are real. Man, ain't close. Hey, but Joe, but after I say all that, you still going to get these hands, though. I give you prime guys, I give you a prime example. Everybody that had a pod, what did they talk about? The hottest story, the trending story was Kenyon. Yeah. We didn't talk about that.

Yeah. Because I don't feel like I don't feel I didn't feel like we want to if you want to talk about it or Joe we could have talked about it but I don't feel I have anything that to add to it yeah yeah all this other stuff that was going on we don't talk about we don't talk about other people I because I think there's enough stuff happening that we can talk about that without mentioning them yeah absolutely right people don't want to hear you constantly talk about Shannon Sharp or Stephen A. Smith they want to hear you do that

Talk about your sports, Joe, so talk about some sports. Yeah. Hell, I ain't played sports in a quarter of a century. But that's what makes us unique. We talk about sports. We can make things entertaining. We take the simplest things and make it very, very entertaining. People want to be entertained.

At the end of the day, people want to be entertained. But they don't want to be entertaining while you constantly trying to berate somebody and put somebody down. There you go. That's the thing. Okay. Hell, I ain't did anything entertaining. in a quite some time.

I'm playing on people it that way. Hey, I take, I'll take, I'll take it apart. You hear me?

You say what? Let me take care to entertaining part. Let me be the villain. That's, that's my spiel. I'll be the bad guy. Oh,

Cho, they're taking things that we said in like the first, like I said in the first month and you and I was joking in the first month of the show. Yes, sir. They planned it now, and people say, see, that's why it happened.

Yeah. Bro, I said that three years ago. But because you take the clips, you try to paint me in a negative light, and people don't know any better. Because if it's up there, if I post, if we post something today, people are going to assume it was said today or yesterday.

Yeah. They're not looking to see you, man. He said that about not going to girls' house three years ago. Yeah. Why y'all talking about it now? Mm-hmm. But I get it. It took me a while to understand.

I was like, I see what you're trying to do. Y'all realize what the algorithm is. Y'all know who's in the algorithm. Mm-hmm. Mention his name. People are going to click. Hey, Shannon Sharp, uh, uh, uh,

one of Oscar, click. Shannon Sharp was walking down the street. The car broke down. Click. It is what it is. It is what it is now, Ocho. So we just got to accept that. We just got a joke.

I'm sorry that we roped you into it. But you were part of it now. So anything to Ocho and I do? It's a guilty by association. You guilty by association. Do blast TCU. About the score of 81 to 58 is the tail of two halves of Cameron Boozer. In the first two points, he was all one on the first half.

Two points on O'1 field goal and plus the minus plus. minus a minus five in 15 minutes. In the second half, he was 17 points on seven or nine shooting plus 20 and 19 minutes. Joe, he got it going in the second half. Yeah. As you can see, they had it going. They didn't need him to do a whole lot, but, I mean, they shot 55% from the floor. They shot 87% from the two point, the free throw line, excuse me, 20 of 23 from the free throw line.

Because they're so big. Man, they're tall team. Huge, boy. I mean, hey, and they get offensive rebounds, they get put back. You ain't got no choice but to file them. And the horn frogs were overmatched. And, uh, man, Booza is, he's something. Hey, he's something.

He started off slow Uncle Joe. Yeah. But boy, he made Camboza made that thing look so easy in that second half. Yeah. Yeah. I think. The problem is is that when you, when he's struggling, you got to put some separation between you. Yeah.

You can't be down. Right. And he's struggling like he's struggling. He's giving you 22 and 10 on the season. You got him at two points. You better, hey, you better be, and you need to be in front of them by about 6 to 10 points. Yeah.

I agree. I agree. What I noticed was Glenn for me is that, you know, he averaging what, 20, what he he averaging, what he averaging, 22, 22 again? 22 and 10. Even though he only had two points in that first half, Uncle Ocho, it wasn't like he was like one for eight, one for nine. You know what I mean?

He finished seven for ten. from the field. So he was patient, and in the second half, he turned it up. Man, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, young guy, young freshman who I think is going to have a tremendous, uh, pro career. I mean, he, he, he's, he a monster down there, bro. Yeah. He, uh, you know, he got the body type.

Hell, he already built like his dad. Yeah. Yeah. He already built like booze. And you think he'd be, he better than pops at this stage? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Right now, yes. Now, will he be a better pro? I don't know if Bruce was an all-star. Yeah. Turned himself as a second round pick, end up getting a big-time deal from Utah.

Yeah. So I don't know what he'll be. Will he be better than his dad? But if you were to project him right now, if you look at him right now and where they, he definitely better than his dad as a freshman, hell. Yeah. His dad didn't come out.

But as a freshman, yes. Is he a better college player than his dad? Yes. Will he be a better pro than his dad? That remains to be seen. Right. But this kid's a flat-out damn play. Yeah, he can play.

It ain't, it's nothing flashy about his game. Like, ain't not going to jump off the screen. Yeah. Kind of on, like, on some Tim Duncan type stuff. You know what I mean? Like, he just get it done, bro. It may not look as pretty to some, but it's effective. It's effective.

Yeah. Yes. And, but Duke, I mean, you get, Malik Brown gave you 12, and you got Sarr gave you 14 and Evans gave you 17. Even Caden Boozoo, who had an outstanding game the first round. He gave you nine. Yeah. They got 10 points.

I mean, they don't really depend on the bitch. It's those starters that you have to worry about. Yeah, everybody was in double figures except one person. Mm-hmm. And so that's what you have to worry about with Duke. They come at you that they're, look. They're a good T-C. To convince those guys to play together because, look, all these guys are four and five stars.

Yeah. All these guys were the guy at their prospective schools. Yeah. Now for the greater good, we need you to see. sacrifice. Yeah. It's a lot easier said than done. Oh, yeah.

Because everybody thinks they got an opportunity to be a damn lottery pick, a top five pick. Hello. I can't be no top five. I can't be no top five pick, you know, you know, hey, let me get,

I need to get me like 15 and 10, 15 and 8, 20 and 8. And you're talking about to share the ball. Hey, nah, uh, uh, uh,

and you know, some of these guys Joe probably average 25 and 15, 30 and 8. What did you tell about? In high school. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's a difference. That's a difference.

See, in high school, you can be the best because you might be playing with less talent. You know what I mean? Once you get to college, power five, bro, everybody on the team talented. Yeah. You know what I mean? The cream going to rise to the top.

But for the most part, I just feel like when you get to college, you can kind of see the separating factor of a lot of guys. You know what I mean? Guys who really got that it factor, you know, they start to show it. And it shows up in close, tight games, bro.

And you go to do, you with, you was a guy in college. You hear me? Yeah, they ain't just, I mean, just like any time, you go to these big time, you go to Ohio State, you go to Alabama, you go to Georgia. You can play in high school. You're a damn good high school. Yeah. They ain't just giving them no, no, Arbor.

Look, they might have one or two guys that they did a favor to for this big boost or somebody got a legacy scholarship or something like that. Right. But for the most part, they top 80 guys? Yeah. They legit. Yeah. Well, you obviously, you don't have that many guys in basketball.

These guys can play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ain't no one star. Ain't a walk on. He come out there on senior night, and his dad said, I'm proud of your son. You stuck it out for four years. Yeah.

You get that one. Hey. Hey, dude. You don't get that no more. And look, hey, you think you, you think you're going to come in here, and it's going to be smooth selling. Them dudes put in work, Ocho. We did a training camp when I played for the.

Brooklyn Nets. Yeah. We did a training camp in Duke. And, man, they got an NBA facility, bro. This ain't no, this ain't no pee-wee stuff. You hear me? Yeah. Look, the guy, you go, you go to those programs.

You know why you go there. Yes, I can get a great education. In a year? In a year? I'm trying to get to the age level. You're not going to stay there long enough to graduate. Now, you might eventually go back and take online classes. and get your degree,

but you ain't get no damn degree in no one year. Right, right. You look at all them guys, they won and done. Cai Rie, one and done. Cooper Flagg, one and done. Zionn, one and done.

Ingram, one and done. Tatum, one and done. I got one and done. I got one for you. It ain't like it used to be with Christian Laytoner. They stay in four years. Grant Hill, Thomas Hill,

all those guys. It ain't like that no more. Yeah, it was different. Those guys gone. I'm coming to Duke. You know why I'm coming. Because I remember, hey, I remember the coach You're talking about they mess up your program

I ain't recruited no one and done Okay John said I take them on Coach Cal said I take them all Right Can't beat him join them You're right Hey son you want to be one of done come on Right

You got to be the gateway to the lead You got to fall in line You know you got to keep up with the Joneses These young dudes ain't trying to be in school No more than one year That's it that or not. Yeah. You got to be special though now. I just left I just left school for, I just left school for 12 years. I was in school. How long?

You think I want to do this upon another? Another phone? Absolutely not. Man, I'm trying to get this time. I'm trying to be, hey, I'm going to class until after the new year. When the new year here, I'm done. Hey, Uncle Joe? What's up? But who the best to come out of Duke? Well, who the best do devil to come out of they're playing at the next level.

You talk about just as a college player? Yeah. Chris and Leightner. Chris and Layton, yeah. Damn, y'all answered that fast. Yeah. As a college player? Now, you're talking about who transitioned

and became a pro. That remains to be seen. Probably Grant Hill had the highest ceiling. Right. But he got hurt because Grant could do it all. He was LeBron before LeBron. The guy that six foot eight could handle the ball, could play,

could initiate the offense with an outstanding defensive player, could score the basketball. He was going to be. be sensational. Obviously, injuries robbed him of that. But as a college player, it ain't even close. Ain't nobody at Duke close to Crystal Leitner. I got a question. I got a question.

Obviously, we know what Kyrie can do in the NBA. I didn't watch college, I didn't watch college basketball back then. So how far was Kyrie from what he is in the NBA, as opposing when it was at Duke? Was he far off or you could already tell him? You got to realize Kyrie got hurt. Carrey got hurt. He only played like maybe 15 games.

Yeah. That's it? Yeah, he got hurt. He hurt his foot. Ocho, he got Hurton still win number one. Yes, that's how special he was. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. But he, but when he played, now he played in the second half of the season, Ocho.

Now, he's out there getting money. He wasn't out there to his bull driving now. Yeah. Man, y'all need to stop. As a college player, wasn't nobody close to Christian Latelyn. Wait, who did? That is a college player.

You can make a case that Christian Laten is a top five college player of all time. Back-to-back national championship, they took down the mythical team in LNLV, I don't know if y'all remember that Saturday when they went up when they played LSU. Do y'all remember what they did to the Fab Five? Man, y'all better get that man his credit. I'm not saying what he transitioned into. I'm talking about as a purely college player.

The chance said no. They talked about Grand Hill. Grand Hill was the second option to Crystal Leitner. Bobby Hurley was a second option. Thomas Hill was a second option. Although Crystal Leitner and the shot that he hit against Kentucky. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember that.

No, he was real. He was real. He was real. He was real. No, Christian Leighton was really good. I couldn't stand Duke. That joke of that. Nobody can stand dude.

Hey, hey, but you know, that dude there? Now, if you talk about, like, transition, like the ability, he wasn't fast, he couldn't jump, but that Joker just did everything right. Man, that joke will back door you up and under, get your end one, got your big and filed trouble like, damn. Yeah, yeah. Somebody beat them. Yeah, A. Ocho and I was so happy when

when you and LV beat them beat the brakes off of him in the national championship. And then the next year they come back at I bed, damn. They didn't beat, they didn't beat, they didn't beat you and up being the national championship because we knew that was going to be the national, that was the national championship right there. Yeah.

And then he followed up again and got it back to back. Yeah. Yeah. My, uh, when the last time you saw an SSA team go back to back? Hell, dude. Florida, Florida, Florida, I'm going to go. Florida, Florida, I'm a Horford, I'm from Florida. At Florida.

Florida, what, 06,07? Yeah. Yeah. But that's hard to go back to back. They have Yolkeem Noah, Corey Brewer. Yeah. They had a nice, they had a nice squad. It ain't, man, it's hard to go, it's hard to go back to back.

In college? Yeah. Especially. It ain't like it used to be where guys actually stayed all four years. Right. them guys gone. I win a national championship and I'm the guy.

I mean, for Florida, for Al Horford and Keem and Brood for them to come back and try to do it again. Yeah. Boy, they really love the college life, guys. You hear me? Most of them guys, they gone.

Because they weren't even getting the NIL back then. Hell no. I mean, for what we know. Man, I... Yukon went back to back, right? Do you can go back to back? Did you?

Yeah. So Yukon went back to back 23, 24. Florida went back to back, what, 06, 07, and then did anybody go back to back in the 90s other than Duke? No, my razor backs, they went to the championship game back to back, but we lost to UCLA in 95. 95, yeah. That's when they had the O'Banamo.

Yep, yep. And ties Edney, right? Yep, yep. You know a little something, something, don't you? That boy, we locked in over that on it. Yeah, man. You know, y'all had Todd Day and Corners Williams and y'all had a little quad, though. Yeah, they had some hard-working boys, boy.

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