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Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson present the highlights of March Madness. Unc and Ocho provide a comprehensive recap of the thrilling Elite 8 and share their confident predictions for the Final Four, featuring UConn, Illinois, Michigan, and Arizona! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - UConn Def. Duke10:32 - Tracy McGrady joins the show! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. We talk about our mistakes too.

they pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. Check out Game Recognized game with Stu and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You look at the guys, they probably got three guys that's going to be a lottery pick. We know Booze is probably going to be a top three pick, Joe. And he's probably going to be college player of the year.

But when you look at the talent that they've had, they've underachied. I don't care what you. I don't care anything about this. And they're young. And that's what we talked. We talked about this. Yeah. Yukon is the veteran ball club.

Yeah. Michigan have veteran players. Yeah. Illinois. It's not an accident. Because when the rubber need to meet the road, you got to have somebody to be calm, cool, and collected. Yeah.

Absolutely right, man. Absolutely. And you see, there's no way. And it seemed like when Yukon started to make some shots and started to make that run, it seemed like Duke got tight and tighter. Man, you got tighter and tighter. Man, he got tired and tighter.

And when old boy hit that A and one and cut up the two, we're like two minutes to go. Now we got a ball game. All right. Now we're gonna see if those shots that you were making when you was up 10, 12, 14, let's see if they go in now. Let's see if you still have the same conviction to shoot them

when you was up double figures. Now you're only up two. Let's see if you'll pull A. Joe, let's see if you'll pull from 22 now. Let's see if you try to snatch it when you're from 16. Now. Hey, you're absolutely right. When you look at it,

the Yukon playing with juniors at the point guard at the one and two. And dude got a freshman out there who ain't never been in that environment. Yeah. Been in that situation. I don't want to say he ain't been in an environment because he's been playing with his twin brother. And we know they've been under microscope for quite some time. But the significance of this game to have that turnover and it leads to you.

Come on, bro. Sometimes you just hold on to the ball, Joe. Make a value. Hey, I know you got two. dudes wide open, but let them fire you mean. You got to shoot them free throws. That's the one thing you don't want to do is turn that ball over. That's the only way really you can get beat.

You can't even, you can't even sleep at night behind something like this. No, it's tough. Like, keep it 100. You can't. But Uncle Ocho, I was just telling y'all the other day about Evans. This is why I was skeptical. He can't have a hell of a game like he had the other day and then turn around

and give us seven points. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Like, they need him they needed him to at least get you 15, 16, bro. Like, booze going to be booze. Like, you can tell. Hey, like I can say,

he's going to be a top three pick. But he's going to have to have somebody come along for the ride. You know, you got a guy out there playing 17 minutes, got a donut. He didn't even take a shot. You know what I'm saying? What is that? Huh?

He got great cardio. He got 17 minutes with the cardio in. That ain't enough, man. Like, I know, I know they play well. They played well enough to win. Shot 52% from the field, 40 from the three. And Yukon didn't play great. They played great when it matter.

You know what I mean? When they needed it, when they needed it, they came through, bro. That veteran presence that they have over there, it prevailed at the end. Man, and Mullins. Bro, that joke would shoot all the threes. He was coming off picks and was wide open. I was like, bro, I say, I say, Hurley, if you call one more pin down and let this dude come out of this pick and shoot him.

and he, air ball, I say, him and a, uh, uh, uh, what, Caraband. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I say, man, God, dang. Now you don't know how to shoot, Caraband. You've been knocking down three your whole damn career in the Yukon. And now you get in this game, you can't make one.

Well, you keep coming out of a pick after pick after pick in air ball, brick, brick. And then from 35 foot, he pulled and bang nothing but bottom of the man. Hey, shoot a shoot, Joe. Ain't that what they say? Yeah, shoot a shoe. Hey, shooters keep on shooting. Hey, look, they ain't really had, but like two. They had one guy who played pretty good, Reed and Smith.

Oh, Reed played out of the damn mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But outside of that, okay, O's Joe, there nobody else, I mean, Smith off the bench, 18 minutes, 9 points, 4 for 7, but for the most part, man, this was a, it got to be an ugly game. But Duke, Duke kicking himself with all them damn turnover. Yeah. You can't keep turning the ball over like that. And I felt like, okay, what concerned me was Duke on the glass.

But it wasn't that big of a discrepancy. Yeah. 34 to 28. You know normally Duke is a plus 10, plus 15 on the glass because they, they kill you. Boozer normally has that. What's the other big guy named? You normally another big guy. He might have got hurt.

But, nah, but this shit, I mean, it's crazy. You're never going to be able to look. And I hate it. I hate when it's happened to young kids. We see it happen to professionals. And we, you know, we talk about the Billy Buckner situation when he played the Mets. And DeMall went through his leg at first base.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jackie Smith went to the Hall of Fame, but he's known for dropping a touchdown that would have beat the Steelers for the Cowboys. Things like that linger for, because they're going to play this, Ocho. And I don't know why Booze just didn't hold on and make it come foul you.

Yeah. He had two guys ahead of him that was wise. Yes. So I know he was trying to get off the ball. so they couldn't foul and they could get something easy. But, bro, that little tip, that deflection that they got, that was the deflection of the season, bro.

Yep. They were dead meat. They was out of there. Oh, hey, hey, Joe, if he do this, I'm holding, you know what, Joe, I just sometimes, sometimes instead of throwing it, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, instead of maybe he drop it, you know what, I'm just going to slide down and let the clock keep moving.

Because the clock is my friend. Yeah. Yeah. is not my enemy. The clock my friend. In that situation, going out of bounds is the enemy. Turning the ball over is the enemy.

Yeah. That's all, look, and I understand it took a, bro, it took a shot from God. Come on. Damn, ooh, woo. It took, I mean, Joe, I mean, come on. It took it, it, it, it, it, it's what it took. I mean, bro had missed every three he taken.

Mm-hmm. He took, uh, and then he banged that. He banged that one. The one that matter. 35. That hurt. Nothing but that. Hey,

Joe, he let that, his release was so goddamn quick when he let that thing go to. He had no choice. Oh, Hey, man. Because he deflected it and got it to the other guy

and hey, he, but you know what, Joe, what it is? It's that trailer. Remember the trailer in Villanova, North Carolina? Yeah. The guy breaking it up the court,

the guy that took it out of bounds was the guy that hit the shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, Bullers was the trailer. He's the one that deflected it. He got it up to the court. They come to get him. They kick it back to him.

They needed Mike Green on the call. That would have been a triple bang. Bang! Bang! Or maybe have John Witherspoon. Rest this old bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Hey, that was devil's safe, brothers. It's not like I was sitting here room for Duke,

but when he made that shot, that hurt me, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened? What transpired? Look, if he didn't turn the ball over and the guy made the shot, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. That's an awful lot for a young man

to have to live with, Joe. It is. It is. It is. Look, they got all these State Farm commercials now, the booze are twins. Yeah. Hey, damn, well, that's a bad way

because you know they probably would have had more come out. Oh, what? If they would have made it to the Final Four? Oh, they don't probably shot a few commercials. I was they're going to say they didn't already shot them commercials already. Oh, man. Look, look, my favorite ones are Samuel Jackson and Charles Barkley and Magic Johnson now. Oh, yeah.

Hey, them are capital one. Yeah. Man, that hurt. Oh, that one. I'm hurt for, I ain't hurt for Duke. I ain't been here lying said, man, I feel, I do not feel bad for Duke. And I told y'all, hey, A, B, D, anybody but Duke. Right.

I'll give them who win. They're not winning. And my homeboy won't even call me. I've been calling it by and Joe. I've been calling it all day. I called him at an old choice. Told him I'm in jail. I say this is my one-call homeboy.

Please pick up. He didn't answer you yet. He ain't answer. I called back. I said, man, I got this burner phone. This dude had this burner phone in jail. I tried it. Because with North Carolina loss, man,

that joke will blew my phone up. So I feel like, hello. I pretend like I'm asleep. So anytime our team lose, we always pretend like we sleep. I'm like, hello. Talking about Ian, you ain't sleep. I said, come by, yeah, yeah, what's going on? Hey, hey, what that bracket look like now?

Oh, my bracket tore up. Hey, Joe, what's yours look like? Man, I don't know. I don't know, Joe. I know who bracket, I know who bracket is still intact, though. I ain't going to lie to y'all. You just got Arizona to win. Hey, hey, hey.

But you got Arizona. You want because you got Arizona going to the final four. Hey. Hey, Ojo. Hey. Hey, I'm happy for you, Ocho. What you doing? Putting that.

Oh. Hey. Hey, hey, get, yeah. All he did was pick animals. Hey, listen. All he did with pink animals. Hey, King Ocho, respect me. Respect me.

Huh? Uh, hey, look. I can't believe my whole board did be like that, man. He came out of phone. I was in jail, had to get a burner phone. He still was answering for him. I said up a text, asked it, is everything okay? He still ain't hit you back?

Ain't hit me back yet. He's gonna take him about two, three days before he get back at you. Oh, he ain't calling me, he ain't calling me no time soon. He brought out to him. That's all right, I'm gonna call. Hey, but I'm gonna tell y'all some. Michelle, can you have birds call me?

Hey, these teams left in the final, going to the final four boy, Hey, if you ain't got you no seven-footer down there, you're going to be in some trouble. Hey, it's going to be a long date. You know what I hate? I mean, I hate Michigan and Arizona playing. I need them to cross. You want them to be a championship?

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All right, there's our very special guest joining us tonight. He's a seven-time NBA All-Star, a seven-time All-Star, excuse me, he's a seven-time All-MBA selection, a seven-time NBA All-Star, a two-time scoring champ straight out of high school. Here you have. T-Mac, Tracy McGregardy. T-Mack, what to do, bro? What's up, Doe?

We're good, we good, bro. How are you feeling tonight? Man, I'm blessed, brother. All good. Thanks for doing this tonight. Let's go ahead on Joe. You want to play talking about Joe? I was saying, Matt, what's good, boy?

Florida boys. Good. My dog. What's up, boy? man i'm chill i'm chill i ain't see you on i didn't see you on the court in the minute man you still won't smoke again oh choe come on bro that that's how we starting off this tonight um i'm just i'm just i'm just asking so i would tell us i'm glad you said that old chow let me clear some things up for people out there right we playing in a celebrity game many many moons ago and this my dude

this is my florida brother we was out there playing roughing each other up. And folks thought we were actually fighting online. I would never fight this man. This is my dude. So to clear that up, that was not me at Ocho fighting in a celebrity basketball game. That was something else going on.

And my dude was just acting like Florida boys out on the basketball court. That's what we were doing. So I wanted to clear that up, man, because I ain't never get a chance to talk to you about that. And I know there's a lot of stuff floating out about us fighting. Nah, but what he didn't be talking about? He's been telling us he dropped 40.

He dropped like 14, 16 on you, and you kind of got upset with him about that. I said, did you drink? I said, did you drop all 1416 points on T-Back? He's like, yeah. Would juice that nigga drunk that night? Oh, me? Hell no.

All right, T-Bank, let's get to some basketball. Look, what the MVP? I think we got, we got Luca, we got Wimby. We got Yolk it, you got SGA, you got Jalen, you got Jalen Brown, and I think you got Cade Cunningham. I think Kate is going to miss the cutoff because he's going to miss too many games. So just for the sake of this argument, let's sit him to the side. But I believe it's out of those five, Luca, Yokic, SGA, Jalen Brown, and Wemby. I don't know if you have a vote, you may or may not.

But if you had to, if you had to vote right now, there's still about 12, 14 games left in the season. had to vote right now, team, Matt. Where are you leaning? So, obviously, I think all five of these guys can win MVP, because they're all having phenomenal seasons. But how I see the

MVP and view the MVP, who's most valuable to their team? And out of those five, when I look at the rosters, it's Jalen Brown. No question, right? It's no question. SGA is playing with another all-star, and

playing with a cast that he played with last year. Yes, sir. But Jay Dove has been out in and out of the line out. He's just coming back. And then when I look at Yokish, now, Yokic, before he got hurt, I don't care what anybody was doing. He was my clear-cut MVP.

The numbers he was putting up was just astronomical. Yeah. And then when you look at, when you look at, bro, I'm just going to say this. When you look at Wembe, if Wemby doesn't win it this year, good luck to all the other. the players for the next six or seven years because he defensively like his floor is better

than all of those guys ceiling and we've never seen anybody on the defensive been have that type of impact and I say the dude is like Dion Sanders bro on the basketball court being able to shut an entire side down yeah and then Luca you know for me you got to play both sides of the ball. I think he's done a lot better this year defensively, but in this stretch that we've seen him on, he's been phenomenal scoring with the best of it. I mean, the dude is just a phenomenal offensive player. But again, he's playing with LeBron James. And they didn't really, the team, the team wise, I think there was a little up and down, really wasn't playing great basketball. Jalen Brown and as Boston

self has been playing great basketball from the jump. And you look at his roster, JT has been out right up until a few weeks ago, him coming back. But you look at their roster, it's like no way you guys should be in the second seat in the Eastern Conference. So most

valuable player at this point to be still as Jalen Brown. When you look at this and you see what the the OKC Thunder, what they've been able to do, even when SGA was out, they were still finding ways to win. Even when, and that's the mark of a good team.

When you can be without your best player and you still win, you can be without your second best player. And guys come in and contribute and you can still win. That shows you the depth of a given team. Yeah. So now if I said, okay, team, Matt, some money that means something to you. And if it's your money you putting up, it means something to you. Who you think is in the finals?

Because I go back and forth, Because a part of me wants to say San Antonio, a part of me wants to say, uh, uh, uh, the, okay, see, okay, see. And then I look at the east. Yeah. I still think Boston healthy. I don't think anybody. If Boston and Detroit, but Kade has to play great in order for them to win.

J.T. can have an off game and J.B. carry him. Yeah. J.B. can have an off game and J.T. can carry him. And then you got that little guy Peyton Pritchin. He comes out the bitch. And before you know, he doesn't hit you over your head.

with 22 points, Matt. No, you're absolutely right, man. You know, some of these guys, when they miss games, their team don't fall off. They still win ball games. You know, Detroit had a good one tonight, but they lost against the Hawks, but they still playing good basketball without Kay Cunningham.

Jalen Dern is stepping up with, you know, in the absence of him. And actually, the little point guard, Dennis Jenkins, is playing great basketball for him. too. So for Detroit, this is, I want to see this because I wanted to see how they function without the head of the snake in Kay Cunningham. And they answer my question. These guys are still a legit team without him. And I see how they can play when Kate gets in foul trouble or he's off the court for whatever reason. They still play good basketball. And with Jalen Brown there,

man, I just don't see nobody in the Eastern Conference as balanced and solid. all around like them. New York Knicks, they have everything, but you just don't know it's been some inconsistent basketball with them. So I'm going Boston, and it pains me to say this because I love the Denver Nucket. Yoke is my favorite player.

Them being healthy, they are, man. Because Peyton Watson is coming back at some point in time because you look at the way they were playing with Peyton Watson and you got Jamar, playoff, because you know Jamar Murray. He and Yokes in the pick and roll is the most stoppable tandem. So I'm going to say this. Before I had Denver, when they were fully healthy, I just thought Denver was that team.

But because it's been, you know, Aaron Gore had been out of the lineup. I mean, Payne Watson been out of the lineup. Krish Brons been out of the line up. Like so many of these guys, Cam Johnson, their core guys that's made so much time. I've got to go, I've got to go to Boston and OKC. in the finals, dog. Wow. No San Antonio.

You don't think San Antonio is quite old enough yet? Because I love Wimby. Stephan Castle, Vassel. I mean, they got, Harrison Barnes comes off the bench. Kelton Johnson. I love Kelton Johnson. He's a bucket. It don't matter.

He gets into the game. He's going to get Twin Tee, man. No, that boy be playing, man. Whether he's knocking down the three against the cup, I love their team. just think this is the year where they're going to have that growing pain of failing to reach the finals and then the next the next few years my gosh watch out it's going to be crazy my gosh yeah hey hey mac i want to switch gears real quick obviously you with great knowledge of the game and

everyone has their own criteria hold on where you're at bro i'm i'm in the car i was i was i was stuck in a rush hour traffic you ain't no goddamn rush hour traffic bro you're how you're Do me, bro. You're supposed to be my boy. You're supposed to be in the studio or at the crib. You in the car, of my... No, I swear to God, T-Mack, I was in a standstill traffic for like 45 minutes. All right. Apologios to yourself, bro. I'm at the house now, but real quick, everyone has their own criteria. There's always dialogue. There's always endless conversations. Barbershop talk, basketball talk when it comes to

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And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F-1 career, a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One, a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast.

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game. and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years

since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why,

of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auer Kohn and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.

What's the vibe of that when it's like you're, star players like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man,

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You only threw two over them in there? He threw two guys. I think Team Man got cold in that discussion. You only got two guys. No, but talk to me nice, man. Talk to me nice. And let me know who you feel the best is ever. We talk about the goat now.

So there's another goat you want to add to the conversation. So for me, it's MJ all day. I grew up watching Mike and I just haven't seen. And it's not even about the numbers and the championships. It's what I'm watching. Right, with my eyes, what I see on the basketball court. Yeah, that other stuff helps. But it's all about the eye test and what this man did, you know,

night in and night out defensively. clutch, whatever you need it. And that's not to say LeBron can't beat a goat, but for me, it's my goat, it's MJ. And I think how you have to do it, you got to go about errors, man, because, you know, it's, right, right. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's different style of basketball. It's different players. Like, MJ ain't see no Kobe, MJ ain't seen no TMAC, MJ ain't see no vince. You know, like, and I'm trying to disrespect those wing players, but let's be honest. the 2000 wings bro they wasn't in right right they were deeper and the game changed so and then

in lebrons era he ran that right putting up crazy sex the MVP's but he had some competition that was colby brunt and then later on his career the got to ask step curry in there right so it's so it's errors for me man all these guys are goats because they all was freaking great Yeah, I think the thing is that I don't know how you felt when you first saw Michael Jordan, but I always tell the story. He doesn't seem real, T-Mack. He level, I mean, when I first laid eyes on this man, I was in the Super Bowl. This man was levitating, and I'm looking at him, and he probably thinking, man, Sterling Sharp little brother,

he's something wrong with him. Because he didn't, he don't need. Tim Mack, am I lying? Does he seem real? So I'm going to tell you this story. And I'm glad you said that. And people really don't understand. That aura is a real thing, bro.

For real. His aura is like none other. So I was 17 years. I was 17 years old, and this is when I announced that I was going to go to the NBA. Chicago was playing the Atlanta Hoss. I go to the game, watch MJ and Pip and the Bulls do that thing that night. I go in the back after the game and I'm waiting for these guys. I'm waiting by the Chicago Bulls locker room because we got some passes at my,

you know, the team that I was with had the connections. Shrey. MJ, well, Rodman walked out. All right. Cool. That's the problem right there. Pip walks out. All right.

Bro. MJ walks out of that locker room, I do. Nah. It's like he was glowing, bro. He had like this awe around him. I'm telling you. People don't believe it. This is 17-year-old me watching this guy

because this is right, NBC, this is the golden era of basketball. That's how I got to watch him, right? It's to see him on TV and what he was doing back in the late 80s, early 90s for me when I started watching and to actually see this brother in person, nah, he didn't seem real.

He still don't. He still, he still, I get the same, I get the same feeling when I see that man in person that I got the very first time that I saw his ass in person. This joke will levitate. I don't care when nobody said, this man was levitating. He was not walking.

He was levitating. And I've seen a lot, a lot of famous people in the world in my time. But don't nobody has. the aura like Michael Jordan. Now maybe, maybe Michael Jackson, but I never saw Michael Jackson in person. Yeah.

Yeah. I've seen Prince in person. I've seen a lot of celebs in person. I've never seen anything like what this man, the glow and the power, the energy, the force that is around him, man. You people, you got to be in his presence to understand what T-Mack. But if you think about it, Chad, everybody that's ever been around him,

he's said the same thing. From Shaq to Kevin Garnett to everybody said the exact same thing. He doesn't. Alan Irons said the man, he don't even seem real. No, he don't, man. And I was actually just with him at the Riders' Cup. And it's hard not to just stare at Mike, bro. That's Mike, bro.

I'm glad I ain't the only one. I'm glad I ain't the only one. Y'all, that's Mike right there, fool. But, nah, and for me, when I first, saw him and then my first couple times playing against him, like I still had that feeling, but it's like I've been around Mike so many times. I still, you know, I have high regards.

The auras kind of wore off a little bit. It's still there and that's still Mike. But man, when I was 17 years, I ain't never seen anything like it, bro. It's amazing. Like I said, I've been around a lot of famous people, a lot, a lot of famous people. Yeah.

But ain't nothing. Ain't nothing like, ain't nothing like this dude right here, man. Nah, no. And when he came back to the Wizards, because I was 17 years, I mean, 18 years old, you know, I played against him when they won 72 and 10. That was my rookie year. Okay.

And I played against him his last year before he retired. And, you know, that 18-old me was trying to figure out, you know, who I was as an NBA player and trying to learn the game. So I didn't really, you know, have that type of game of that force that I wanted. But when I saw when his ass came back, when he was with the Wizards, ah, ah.

Hey, you might be wounded, but I'm going to give you this work. I got to give you this work. Oh, like what you did to my mind when I was 17 years old, making me seem like you ain't real. Hey, because that was Kobe's mindset. You remember Kobe dropped 55 over the last time he played it. And people were like, well, Kobe, why would you do that? He said, that's what he would want me to do.

He would have it no other way. because I guarantee you if the rolls were reversed. Oh, yeah, he would have did the same thing. Would he did the same thing. That's why before he left that, before I had to get at least 40 on the bro. Before he stopped playing, I had to see that I dropped 40. And I don't care if the Wizards Mike because the Wizards Mike were still averaging 24 points, 25 points, and putting up some crazy numbers when he was healthy playing.

So I viewed him as Chicago Bulls might. He got to come get his work. When you look, you know what I wanted to ask you to you, Mac, have a guy that played the game at an elite level. There was a lot of conversation going back and forth when Bam got 83. Bam got 83. Look how he got to 83. The game was out of reach.

Team Mac, can you just tell the people how hard it is to score 40, 50, 60? Because I think you've got a career high of like 60, 62. So now go to 70, go to 80. I don't give a damn high he did it. I don't care if he's cherry, pig, Snowbird, whatever you guys call it, where the guy just standing at the half court and getting layoffs on the other end. I don't give it that what you call it. 83 is 83.

Talk to the people from somebody that played the game at an elite high, high level. Explain to the people, even though the Washington Wizards are trash and it says more about them than it does. Bam. Explain the people 83 down points. Yeah, the league has been around, you know, 70-some years. 1947. How many people?

who scored that three three that's all that it's only three regardless of how he did it and how you view him as he when he did it it's 83 points and we we haven't seen that only one time and that was that was being so yeah do i think it could have been a little bit more competitive on washington's side of course but they're they make millions of dollars as well right they got a job to do. And if you had an opportunity to make history, who's not going to do that? So when, so 30 years from now, when, you know, kids are coming up, these babies right now, they come up and they're looking at the score list like, bam, what was the man? He scored 83 points. They're not going to care how he scored it. They just know, man, that man is on a whole time score. So I don't care how he scored it, man.

And it's a lot of people out there that's hating on the man because he overtook. And Kobe never had the record. I don't know what they talk about it. Kobe had the record. Like that's it. The record is 100. Now, we haven't seen it. I haven't seen any video, but the record is 100.

But you know what I think, T, Matt? I think because Kobe got 81 and then, see, I think it was bam is because he's the most unlikeliest guy to get 83. Had Kobe got 83, had you got 80, it got 80 plus. Had one of these guys that we look at it scores, Kevin Durant, James Hard, Alan Iverson. If one of you guys get it, I don't think anybody's bat in the eye.

But you're talking about, bam, that's a career is what, 20 point, a night score? And all of a sudden, he jumped from 20 all the way up to get 83. We don't normally see guys go like that. Even you look at Donovan Mitchell, Donald Mitchell, when he got 70, you look at him, look at it got 70. Those guys are scores. So it's not anything.

So if they were to got, because we saw them get. Luca got 73, I think, against the, against the honks. I think Donald Mitchell got 70 something. If they get 80, we're not even bad in the eye, but Bam got it. And we don't look at Bam as one of those guys, a score. He's an NBA player, man.

The man got hot. He had a phenomenal night in the story. Like, he scored 83, man. Let that shit go, bro. Like, all right, man. He's an NBA player, but I've seen guys, I've seen guys averaging, you know, 17 points in this league get 50.

So what do you got to say about that? Uh, Ocho, I think Ocho trying you muted Ocho. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Hey, Mac, I got a question. Listen, normally pushback for, for 83 point game that BAM scored, you hear from analysts, you hear from pundits, you hear from, from fans that have just, just fans of the game in general that enjoy watching basketball. Um, but when you hear pushback from actual players that played the game, you know, and they, they complain. also about BAM scoring 83.

Why do you think that is, especially from those who have played the game at the highest level, why would they have a problem with it? It's because of how it happened. And rightfully so, like, it was a nasty game. It was a nasty game of what they was doing. That's what they're speaking on. There's no disrespect to BAM.

It's just how it happened. You know what I mean? Like, the Washington Wizards and fouling. And then Miami's filing to try to get the ball back. Yeah, it was all that stuff right there is what they was pissed off about. I don't know. Did you see Shump's comment?

I did not. Immon Shumper said, this is what he said about Bam. Don't bring up 80 no more. Don't bring that up. That was a regular season game versus a tanking team. You murdered that team. And then you walk off, Bam, you don't need to talk about it. We all saw it.

Let us talk about it. I'm in a suit. I can talk about it. Don't talk about it no more, bam. Because now it looks weird. You're about to make it where I don't like 83 no more. I'm dead serious. Please don't be holding on to that, this, ma'am. I need you to add to your resume.

F that. I'm talking about it forever. As a matter of fact, I'm changing my name. Mr. 83. Mr. 83. Actually, that's going to be my social media name on all social media channel. Mr. 83. Straight up.

Like, come on, bro. Like, how you're not talking about? about that. Man, these people are here crazy, though. That's 83 points in the NBA game. I do against NBA players

that's making millions of dollars. Come on, though. No, we can't do that. Yonk, it's history. It's history. How can you not talk about history? You're a part of it.

Let me get, I tell you, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, every, all their top corners go out. But you get 300 yards, and y'all still throwing the ball, Y'all up 21 points and y'all throw the ball and you catch a 15-yard route to go over 300.

You're going to, are you going to say, man, I feel bad for them. They top three quarters. I did the ball. Oh, no. Oh, no. Right. You're in the NFL. I'm going to talk.

You'd be crazy. I might change my last name to 300 too. Shut it up. 300. Three hundred. I don't. Do you, it's very rare for us to see this type of performance. regardless of how it happens, right?

Regardless of how it happens. It's a professional. It's supposed to be the best players in the world, right? It's supposed to be the best league in the world, right? That's all I'm saying. So we're the best players in the best lead. The man scored 83 points. There's no asterisk.

It happened. I think, see, people are like, well, Kobe didn't mention it. Well, Kobe had a game where he stopped at 62 and left in the third and then come back in the game. Colby has had these scoring outbursts. So we're not surprised. I don't think anybody was surprised because just three weeks earlier,

he had a 62 point game where he outscored in time. If I'm not mistake, I think it was the Mavericks by himself in three quarters. So we're not surprised when Colby like kept going and ended up getting that or when Jordan has got these 60 points. But, but bam, I don't even know if Bam's career high, if Bam career highs even 40. Do you remember, you remember David Robinson was trying to get a last game of the season. They got the scoring title to beat Shaq. Feeding him every single time, every single trip. But we don't say none about that, right?

If a matter of fact, I think it was against the Clippers. It wasn't against the Clippers. Oh, yeah. They fanned the crap by David Robertson. He wasn't going to score that against nobody else. He had 71. Man, he wasn't scoring that against nobody else but the Clippers. Why?

Because they were like to watch them. Okay, okay. where you mean the Washington generals to play the Harlem Gold Trouters. That's what the, that's what the wizards are now. Hey, team, my, chairman, you said this week, the board of governors of NBA, they're convening and they're going to vote

possible expansion, one Vegas, one Seattle. You said, you was like, hold on, guys. I'm not so sure there's enough talent on the 30 current NBA teams for you to dilute it even more, adding two more teams. because players can only, you could only protect a certain number of players.

And then everybody else is up for discussion with those teams like, okay, I want this guy, I want that guy. What went into your thought process? Why did you say you don't think there's enough talent that's currently in the NBA for the league to add two more teams? So we just talk about BAM scoring 83 points, right? What did you call that team he scored 83 points on?

The Washington generals. We want to see. We want two more teams. And you just said the NBA team, you call these boys the Washington General. They're not the only team like that. You got Utah tanking. You got the Brooklyn Nets.

Yep. You want to watch the Brooklyn X? No, bro. I don't. Why? Why don't want to watch the Brooklyn Nets? They ain't even trying. At least the Wizards are playing their guys,

do you might? The Utah is not even, they take their guys out, they down by two, and they bitch, they started for the whole fourth quarter. Triple J getting surgery on the wisdom tooth. He out for the rest of the year. Man, who dick to blowjohn? So when you answer the question that you asked me,

Sacramento, you two are you doing why Sacramento? No. Not even. All right, man. So now you talk about adding two more teams in this. Come on, bro. I got a question. I got a question, Mac.

Let me follow this up right quick. Tim Mack, you're talking about two teams, and each team, they say the winning bid is going to be somewhere between $7 and $10 billion. And the owners, you know that that's probably $500, that's probably $500, maybe $600 million in each owner's pocket. Hey, hey, I don't want to take no money out of nobody pocket. I know it's about bread.

I know it's about bread. Okay. But I'm just saying as a fan of the game, we don't have the product. Man, I'm just, I'm sorry. We just don't have the product. The league is weird. It's strange, man.

I can't understand the league. I'm looking at a guy that averaged 30 points last year in the NBA, 29, 30 points on a bad team. But a bucket getter, probably one of the best bucket getters in our league as a young player. He gets waived from his team. Another bad team picks him up, right? Kim Thomas, another bad team picks him up. He stays there for a few weeks, and they wave him.

That, oh, show, the brother was averaging 30 in the NBA last season before he got hurt, and he's out of the NBA. So, come on, like, I want that type of talent in the NBA. I want some, I want that in the NBA, so where he takes tough shots. He'll tough shot maker. He can't find out. He can't find a home in the NBA. Now, I don't know the other stuff that's going on,

whether there's his attitude or he's not, you know what I'm saying? I don't know none of that. I don't have any of that information. But in terms of a basketball player and what we need in this league, what we want to see, that kid is one of the best scores you are seeing this league. Hey, Matt, what I'm going to say, right? You know, if it make money, it makes sense, especially to the owner to the GMs.

The bottom line, it will always be the same. and it has always been the same since the beginning of time. It's always about the money. So with these two expansion teams, if Seattle is able to get one, if Vegas is able to get one, how long do you think it would take before they're able to produce the product

or get the product necessary for those teams to compete? Or is that not possible because there's not enough basketball players in general? No, I think it is possible. Because, I mean, there's, you know, I think with some of these kids coming out of, college. It depends on like how you construct your roster. There's some vets that's probably are, you know,

up for a contract and possibly will look at that Las Vegas situation or look at Seattle. See, that was a phenomenal city to hooping by the way. Vegas, for NBA players. No taxes to you, Matt. Yeah, but that's a little tricky. That's Vegas. Hey, hey, the girls can handle that. The WNBA players can handle that. The NFL players, it's more of a strict league.

You know, you guys only got one game. Yeah, yeah. And y'all have a curfew. NBA players got too much downtime, dog. Vegas might be a little tricky. But, Timak, tell us about the ones league that you found. What is the ones? So that's my one-on-one league, man.

You know, I've, you know, started a one-on-one league back in 2022. and it was my proof of concept season. And I started this league because of where I am sitting today is because of a platform that I got on when I was in high school. And that was the ABCD camp. See, if y'all don't know, I was an unknown high school player up until my senior year. Nobody really knew who I was.

I got invited to the Adidas camp, become, you know, the number one player after that Adidas camp. And, you know, the story is, go to the NBA and the rest of history. So it's that platform that really made me who I was and gave me a name. So it's a lot of hoopers. Ocho, you know, you grew up down in the bottom, man. You grew up some guys that can hoop like crazy and probably had, you know, a situation

where someone in the family died and they had to pivot and step up and, you know, be the parent, the guardian in that situation, or they just couldn't get it right as a teenager. and was in some trouble and, you know, ruined their careers or whatever. And the guys just really didn't get the opportunity to live out their dream of player basketball. Well, there are so many guys, so much talent and one-on-one out here, man,

that I feel they should have that platform. You play 101 growing up? I did. Ocho, you played one-on-one? Yes, sir. No. We all played. We go ahead, T-Bat.

Hey, T-Bat, you know 21? was one-on-one. Basically, that... It was one-on-one against 15 other guys. I was just about to say that. Like, I grew up playing one-on-one, and then at 21 was our... Now it looks weird. You're about to make it where...

I don't like 83 no more. I'm dead serious. Please don't be holding on to that, this, ma'am. I need you to add to your resume. F-that, I'm talking about it forever. As a matter of fact, I'm changing my name. Mr. 83. Mr. 83.

Actually, that's going to be my association. my social media name on all social media channel. Mr. 83, straight up. Like, come on, bro. Like, how do you not talk about that? Man, man, these people are here crazy, though. That's 83 points in an NBA game, my duel, against NBA players that's making millions of dollars.

Come on, though. That's his. No, we can't do that. It's history. It's history. How can you not talk about history? You're a part of it. Let me get, I tell you, Ocho.

I tell you, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, every, all their top corners go out, but you get 300 yards and y'all still throwing the ball, y'all up 21 points, and y'all throw the ball, and you catch a 15-yard route to go over 300. You're going to, are you going to say, man, I feel bad for them. They top three corners was out.

I did the book. Oh, no. Oh, no. Right. You're in the NFL. I'm going to talk. You'd be crazy. I might change my last name to 300, too.

Check it up. 300. Three, I don't, you, it's very rare for us to see this type of performance. Regardless of how it happens, right? Regardless of how it happens. It's a professional, it's supposed to be the best players in the world, right?

It's supposed to be the best league in the world, right? That's all I'm saying. So we're the best players in the best league. The man score 83 points. There's no asteris. It happened. I think, see, people like, well, Colby didn't mention it. Well, Colby had a game where he stopped at 62 and left in the third and the end of the third and then come back in the game.

Colby has had these scoring outbursts. So we're not surprised. I don't think anybody was surprised because just three weeks earlier he had a 62 point game where he outscored in time. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was the Mavericks by himself in three quarters. So we're not surprised when Kobe like kept going and ended up getting that. or when Jordan has got these 60 points. But, but Bam, I don't even know if Bam's career high, if Bam career highs even 40.

Do you remember, you remember David Robinson was trying to get a last game of the season? They got the scoring title to beat Shaq. Feeding him every single time, every single trip. But we don't say none about that, right? If a matter of fact, I think it was against the Clippers. It was against the Clippers. Oh, yes.

They fanned the crap by David Robertson. He wasn't a goal to score that. He had 71. man, he wasn't scoring that against nobody else but the Clippers. Why? Because they were like to Washington. Okay, okay. Well, you made the Washington generals to play the Harlem Gold Trouters.

That's what, that's what the wizards are now. Hey, Tim, my, chairman, you said this week, the board of governors and NBA, they're convening and they're going to vote possibly expansion, one Vegas, one Seattle. You said, you was like, hold on, guys. I'm not so sure there's enough talent on the 30 current NBA teams

for you to dilute it even more adding two more teams because players can only you can only protect a certain number of players and then everybody else is up for a discussion with those teams like okay I want this guy want that guy what went into your thought process why did you say you don't think there's enough talent

that's currently in the NBA for the league to add two more teams so we just talk about me I'm scoring 83 points right What did you call that team? He scored 83 points home? The Washington General. We want to see, we want two more teams.

And you just said the NBA team, you call these boys the Washington General. They're not the only team like that. You got Utah thinking. You got the Brooklyn X. Yep. You want to watch the Brooklyn X? No, bro. I don't.

Why? Why you don't want to watch the Brooklyn decks? And they ain't even trying. At least the Wizards are playing their guys, team at. Utah is not even, they take their guys out. They're down by two, and they bitch they started for the whole fourth quarter. Triple J getting surgery on the wisdom tooth. He out for the rest of the year.

Man, who dick's a bloater? So you answer the question that you asked me, Sacramento, you two are you doing the white Sacramento? No. Donnie, baby. All right, man. So now we, you talk about adding two more teams in this. Come on, bro.

I got a question. I got a question, Mac. Oh, let me follow this up right quick. Team Mac, you're talking about two teams. And each team, they say the winning bid is going to be somewhere between $7 and $10 billion. And the owners, you know that that's probably $500,000, that's probably $500, maybe $600 million in each owner's pocket. Hey, hey, I don't want to take no money out of nobody pocket. I know it's about bread.

know it's about bread. Okay. But I'm just saying as a fan of the game, we don't have the product, man. I'm just, I'm sorry. We just don't have the product. The league is weird. It's strange, man.

I can't understand the league. I'm looking at a guy that averaged 30 points last year in the NBA, 29, 30 points on a bad team. But a bucket getter, probably one of the best bucket getters in our league as a young player. He gets waived from his team. Another bad team picks him up, right? Cam Thomas.

Cam Thomas. Another bad team picks him up. He stays there for a few weeks and they wave him. Also, the brother was averaging 30 in the NBA last season before he got hurt. And he's out of the NBA. So come on. Like, I want that type of talent in the NBA. I want some, I want that in the NBA.

to where he takes tough shots. He'll tough shot maker. He can't find out. He can't find a home in the NBA. Now, I don't know the other stuff that's going on, whether there's his attitude or he's not, you know what I'm saying? I don't know none of that. I don't have any of that information.

But in terms of a basketball player and what we need in this league, what we want to see, that kid is one of the best scores you would see in this league. Hey, Matt, what I'm going to say, right? You know, if it make money, it makes sense, especially to the owner to the GMs. The bottom line, it will always be the same, and it's always been the same since the beginning of time. It's always about the money.

So with these two expansion teams, if Seattle is able to get one, if Vegas is able to get one, how long do you think it would take before they're able to produce the product or get the product necessary for those teams to compete? Or is that not possible because there's not enough basketball players in general? No, I think it is possible. because, I mean, there's, you know, I think with some of these kids coming out of college, it depends on, like, how you construct your roster.

There's some vets that probably are, you know, up for a contract and possibly will look at that Las Vegas situation or look at Seattle, phenomenal city, by the way. Vegas, but NBA players, that's a little tricky. Yeah, but that's a little tricky. That's Vegas. I say, hey, the girls can handle that. The WNBA players can handle that.

The NFL players, it's more of a strict league. You know, you guys only got one. Yeah, yeah. And y'all have a curfew. NBA players got too much downtime, dog. Vegas might be a little tricky. But. Timak, tell us about the ones league that you found.

What is the ones? So that's my one-on-one league, man. you know, I, you know, started a one-on-one lead back in 2022, and it was my proof of concept season. And I started this league because of where I am sitting today is because of a platform that I got on when I was in high school. And that was the ABCD camp. See, if y'all don't know, I was an unknown high school player up until my senior year. Nobody really knew who I was. I got invited to the Adidas camp, become, you know, the number one player.

after that Adidas camp, and, you know, the story is I go to the NBA and the rest of history. So it's that platform that really made me who I was and gave me a name. So it's a lot of Hoopers. Ocho, you know, you grew up down in the bottom, man. You grew up some guys that can hoop like crazy and probably had, you know, a situation where someone in the family died and they had to pivot and step up and, you know, be the parent, the guardian in that situation, or they just couldn't get it right as a teenager and was in some trouble and, you know,

ruined their careers or whatever. And there's guys that just really didn't get the opportunity to live out their dream of playing basketball. Well, there are so many guys, so much talent and one-on-one out here, man, that I feel they should have that platform. You play one-on-one growing up? I did.

Ocho, you played one-on-one-one? No. We all played. We go ahead, T-Bat. Hey, team back, you know 21 was one-on-one. Basically. It was one-on-one against 15 other guys. I was just about to say that. Like, I grew up playing one-on-one,

and then 21 was our one-on-one as well. So, man, I just think these cats out here really need that platform. I want to create it for them. But on top of that, you know, it's much bigger than just giving in the platform to make a name for yourself in basketball. I also want to do some for brothers that look like us

in the ownership department. See? It's not too, it's in your league. It's not too many guys that look like us that have ownership. I was lucky enough.

I was lucky enough to have that opportunity to go in with the Buffalo Bills with my cousin Vince. So we, you know, we got some ownership with that. And it just really,

you know, sparked my interest with like, I want to do this for my people and I want to change how I'm building this league. So I'm building it to have, cities. I want cities and have guys like Jadicus, who's from New York. I give him

15% of this team that's based out of New York. John Wall is from Raleigh. I gave him 15% of that Raleigh team. And I have eight cities and eight owners and GMs that I signed to this team, gave him equity. I didn't want any money for them. I just handed it to them because they are impactful in those cities that they grew up. And then when you look at the game of basketball, our game of basketball,

or NBA. Like, Step Curry is not from Oakland or San Francisco. LeBron James is not from L.A. These guys are homegrown from these cities, and I want that community to get behind them and push these guys and support these guys. So that's why I want to do this, man. And, you know, I'm really excited about giving these guys this slap for them.

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