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Episode Date: July 15, 2026

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former heat teammates, Bam, out of bio. Tyler Hero got into a physical altercation at practice court on Las Vegas Friday morning during the Bam allegedly punched Hero in the face. It started when Bam approached Hero about the comments he made on social media after a seven-year run as teammates in Miami

ended with Hero being traded to Milwaukee. Here's what Tyler allegedly said about Bam. You should get paid $60 million to be a top-tier defender on some nights. I'm just wondering. I'm just saying should an elite defender be making $60 million a year

answer that If I'm healthy I'm the one who needs help Who did Cleveland Prioritize taking away And the playoffs When I'm healthy I need help

Not the other guy Dang Whoa This doesn't look Everybody has this nice persona They see him He got a night

He got a night late He got a night lady Not here in Asia Great couple great couple. Bam, don't seem to bother anybody. But you kind of knew

this would be a problem. Every man has a breaking point, don't you? I don't care what it is. Every person has a breaking point. What you try to do is not get there. This, because here's the thing,

I saw an interview that said if someone was to have your back to ask Tyler hero, he said, bam, now I don't know if they crossed paths, but they both went to Kentucky if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, undercoast town. Yeah. So now we're looking at a situation like you said, if anybody's going to have my back, it's going to be bam. And then you turn around and you say this about Bam. So Bam, we try to figure out, look, what's really going on. Nah, I don't like that, that other. Pop.

Absolutely. Yeah, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, ain't, I know they got into a physical altercation. Yeah. From what I'm here, does it happen at the basketball court at Resorts World? I guess, I guess Tyler was there with his AAU team. That's not about right, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, hey, hey, hey, listen, I like Tyler Hero.

I like his swag. I like everything about him. But that's one thing, hey, bro, you go to talking about guys. Some of them dudes going to make you eat them words you're talking about. And especially talking about his pockets, because you basically talk about it like he don't need it. Yeah. So, hey, hey, hey, keep your mouth shut, keep my name, my Jamal. You know what I'm talking about?

So, hey, Bam. Bam ain't playing that, man. Yeah. Why do you think he got the name Bam? Yeah. figure out of the day, bam for? Damn, man. Right, hey, but also. We got a conversation, though.

Hey, I'm going to say. We talk about it now. I'm good now. I'm just saying, I know they had an altercation, but I'm just saying, cool ahead, cool ahead. You can talk about it now? Nah. Listen, maybe apology from Hero saying, listen, I said some things that shouldn't have said.

Listen, we're going to have to cross paths for a very long time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I see you, too. Hey, hey. They need to squash that, though.

They need to squash that. But you got to take into consideration, Uncle Ocho. The man got traded. Emotions are high, so we know his logic going to be pretty low. He probably said some things that he probably shouldn't have said or probably wish he wouldn't have said. But hell, once you put it out there,

ain't no taking it back, bro. Yeah. You got to stand on it. You got to be careful sending people stuff in the DM. Because guess what? When they get mad, where they're going to do? screenshot it for the world of season. Yep.

Oh, wait. Oh, he didn't type that publicly? Was this public or was it in the DM? Why would he post? Oh, he posted for the other person. Hey. So Tyler Hero posted what he said about Bab and not the guy that he post, not the guy that he was talking to in the DM.

Wow. What? What? Everybody got burned their accounts now? What's going on? Basically. basically I ain't got no I ain't got no burner joke

everybody got burn his account and fester you got a fister what's that fake Instagram why would you need a fake Instagram the same reason you have a burner

well they they got an image to uphold like I'm already I'm known for being crazy and saying crazy stuff so I don't need a fenced or a burrower I don't know what do we're thinking who I really don't I don't

I don't know why Tyler. I don't know. Like I said, that's your former teammate, and I get it. You're upset because, like Joe said, the motions are high. You're getting traded. You didn't want to leave Miami. That's not, I mean, to leave Miami with no state income tax in nice weather, year-round, I'm going back to Milwaukee.

Hey, yeah, I'm from Milwaukee. I ain't trying to live there. I mean, he's from Wisconsin. I'm not going to say Milwaukee. I guess he grew up about 35, 40 minutes away from Milwaukee. Yeah. Hey, hey, he can keep his house in Miami Come come visit in the summer months

But yeah, he got a lady, got kids So hey, hey, hey, you ain't You ain't gonna chase nothing in Milwaukee Ain't nothing poppy Nah, ain't nothing poppy But I think he didn't jump the broom yet I thought he jumped a broom I don't think they married

I don't think Now don't start me the line But if I'm not mistaken I think I saw they had a picture of him at the Summer League and I think she was here with him. So I don't know, Joe. I don't know if they're married,

but I'm just saying, you know, he has two kids, but damn, bam was on some type of time. And he probably felt the way. I know somebody got it. Somebody got it. Joe, somebody got it on screens. Somebody got it on camera. Camera here probably.

He'll come out with it. I got a I got a $30,000 $40,000 to get that you think so I got to talk to man I got to talk to

I don't know I don't know you got to simmer down you can't be coming you can't be right and they probably just ran into each other and he probably would just like

you know what I mean what's there was boboop hey Joe it's also reported Jimmy Butler and Tyler hero were both reportedly unhappy after Bam

received a max extension Jimmy has distance him himself from Bam, while a hero talked behind his back and even shared a graphic, a graphic taking shots at him on Instagram. Mark Stein reported this. Mark Stein says on the report that here's the heat royalty, Mickey Erison, Nick Erison, Pat Riley. He is a modern day, Adonis Haslam. They consider him the absolute franchise pillar. I've always heard nothing but he's held in high regard by his teammates. He's untouchable. That part of for sure.

He's an extension of Pat Riley Spow's ownership. He is. And UD basically took Bam under his wing. Once UD. turned down that money to go to Dallas, UD was golden.

Yeah. UD took less money to stay in Miami. Yep. UD is to Miami. It's like UD is in Miami what Kobe is to the Lakers. Yeah.

That's how they hold him in that. Yes, they hold him in that high regard. He is he culture. He homegrown. And so. So, bam, this slid right in. No, I'm not saying, because y'all know y'all going to twist my words. I'm not saying UD is the equivalent player.

I'm saying the way he looked at, the way he's thought of. Yes, because you know y'all is, man, uncle out of mind. See, he'll do anything to glaze for LeBron talking about UD and Kel Cobra, the same guys. They're thought of as what they are, not player-wise, the culture. what they symbolize what we want you to be. You see how UD showed up

every day, worked his ass off. Some days he played, UD might go three, four, five games, ten games, not play. But when they called his name, he was ready to go play. Yes, sir, every time. Every time. Kobe had, I, just what, hey, you play for the Lakers. You put on that purple and gold,

you represent. Laker Nation. Yes. You play your ass off. Ain't no shortcuts around here. Bam, is there. exact same way. And I can see it. Yeah. I can see it. But Bam, a great player, though, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talk about timing and the guys getting paid. I mean, this is the timing, bro. He's the best player on their team. Obviously, you know, Yonis

joining, but he can do everything. At 6-9, he can guard, he can rebound, he can score. Yeah, the man just scored, what, 75? 83. 83? Yeah, 83. Yeah, 83. Yeah, man come on man but you know what the deal Joe people got to understand they paid him they only pay you what you were that's why I'm saying you know if they they valued him as a max player whether you believe that he's a max player it doesn't matter yeah what somebody's willing to pay determines the value of said objects that they're paying for and I hate to put it that you I'm just saying his contract the heat valued him

as a max player. They gave you max money. I don't really know what's complicated about that. I don't. Me neither. And also timing on it. Time is everything.

Well, the thing is, oh, Joe, think about it. When LeBron, LeBron went back to, if I'm not mistaken, I think LeBron went back to Cleveland. LeBron signed a four-year, $80 million deal.

that was in 2012. Here we are 14 years later guys are signing extensions for $70 million. Dude. You can't get mad at your time. You were a high paid player. I think the thing is,

people look at it like, well, if you're not a Michael Jordan or Colby or Shaq or Magic, how are you getting that kind of money? It's just a sign of the times. And, and the game, it is what it is. Hey, and, and, and, in,

and, and, in, and, in, and, in, and, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, game is growing internationally in a rapid pace, man. So it's going to continue. Hell. It's going to continue to be up there, man. The money these dudes are going to be making, man, by the time a lot of them done, Arcoe,

they're going to be over half a billy. Oh, no, no, no. If Yolkish signs this contract next year, five years, 355, his career earnings will be 724. Joe, within 10 years, somebody's going to sign a

five-year contract for half a bill. Somebody going to be making a hundred a million a year within ten years. I can see that. Watch it. I can see that. I can see that. I can see it, man. I'm telling you. Crazy.

Hey, hey, hey. It's going to it is what it is and I get it. Every general, every decade player like, God almighty no look at the money they make it. I remember when Magic Johnson signed a lifetime contract a million dollars a year.

And that was a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. A million. Them dudes scratching their butt with that now. Man, guys making a million dollars a game, damn near. For real, though. Yeah.

Guys making $750 a game. Yeah. Guys making $750,000 every damn game. Game came a long way, Uncle Ocho. That's just the same thing with football. I remember guys you get a million dollar signing bonus

and they thought they hit the lottery. Now, why are you offering somebody a million dollar sign bonus? He better be an undrafted free agent.

Oh, Joe, you made that jump. I mean, think about the first round is what they're getting. The first round is getting their contract

fully guaranteed. Mm, yes. So the $60 million fully guaranteed they get your check, cut you a check for all the mail

out to rip. Yeh. It is what it is. I can't get mad at a player I don't get mad at anybody I was like well hey well maybe if I go out here and do my job a little better

they pay me too that's the way I look at it I can't get mad how I get mad at the player it should inspire you he pays his damn self now if he'd pay his damn self I was like now you know you're wrong for that

but he didn't they gave him that money yeah but all I needed to do was see some of the guys that they were playing that they were paying. That's all I need to see, Ocho.

I'm better than you. Motivation. You make $250? Oh, I can't wait to my contract up. Yeah, motivation. I can't wait to my contract up, Joe. Hey. That's the only way to look at it.

How much you got? Oh, okay. Motivation. Hey, thanks. Hey, hey, hey, hey, my rookie year, okay, Ocho, Paul Pierce had just signed for like $96 million. Woo! It was like his fifth.

It was. All right. Yeah, Joe. I think it was more like, it probably about six or seven years, but it was like for 96 million. And I was a rookie, and boy, listen, I'm like, damn, Paul got 96 million. Damn, he out here with this little weak-ass jam-step.

You mean, telling me, he killing people with this little jazz step. I'm talking about he top three in the NBA and scoring. I'm like, shh, boy, I got to still a little game from him, add to my game because, hey, when it's my time, I'm coming through, baby. Joe, my rookie, your Joe, I made $63,000. I made $63,000, got $22,000 a sign. You were bald.

I told Mr. Bullen one time the owner, he passed away, rest of your soul, Mr. B. I said, Mr. B, you paid me, you gave my sign of bonus out your back pocket, did you? He didn't talk about Sharper. I said, you did. I said, but that's okay. He said, I think you made up for all over the years. I did. You, you, you, you, you, you're right with me. Yeah.

I said, well, I think you think you got a pretty good player, too, right? 53,000, Joe, Ocho. Damn. Hey, Uncle Joe. What's up? You know what I'm thinking about two? You know how when you watch, uh, what's, Russell Westbrook dribble or you watch, um, like a Derek rolling dribble and be explosive?

Yeah, yeah. Tell me if I'm tripping on the comparison. I'm not saying they're the same player. I'm saying their mannerisms and the way they play. It looks slow and lethargic. The way Luca plays and Paul Pierce. It looked like they're moving in slow motion or am I tripping? You know what I'm trying to say?

You're right. You're right. They got two. The moves always work. In the moves, they always work. Because it's about, it's not about being faster or quicker than you, Ocho. It's being deceptive and having a quick first step. You know, if you got a quick first step in basketball,

bro, you can control the game, meaning you can always get by your defender. You know what I mean? And you can always keep the defense in a hucklebug. And you can shoot. See, both of them can shoot. That's what make them dangerous. You know what I mean?

Man, I used to watch, hey, my rookie year, bro, I watched Paul Pierce score the easiest probably 46 points in his life, just off a catch, jab, jump shot. I'm like, damn, man, how do they keep falling for this? But you know what I mean? It's like the little simple moves, but you have to perfect them. And man, when I tell you how he had it down to a science,

oh my God. Yeah, but that little bit of money, hey, and you think about it, $53,000, I mean, $63,000 a year by the time I'm going to say I'm taking his taxes, I ain't going to bring home about, you know, mid-foughties. Damn, you're still bawling no one. Tell the truth.

Look here, I was first team all pro, started the Pro Bowl I went to three pro Oh Joe, went to 1, 2, 92, 93 First Team All-Pro led the title

led all, led the team I led the team in receiving two straight years 92-93 led all tight-ins and catches yards and touchdowns and 93 made 325

were the first team all pro and started the Pro Bowl for 325 damn that was with incentives and all that but look here I had

I had incentives from the previous contract but I started taking incentives out when they didn't let me get my getting that 100,000 because I made I made 325 so check this out last game of the season I need I think I need

like a hundred and twenty one yards I get six for 116 in the first half so I got 995 in two touchdowns I don't catch another pass I don't tell John Ocho Joe I go back out there the next week I catch 13 for a buck 53 in the touchdown

in the playoff game I told you, I didn't, I didn't know it at the time, Ocho. I didn't know, I didn't know. I didn't know. I wasn't one of them guys. There are a lot of guys probably at half go look at this stance and like, oh, man, I got this. Had I known, I probably would. I'd never done that before, but I probably would have.

Because to get a thousand, because to receive tight ends didn't get a thousand yards back there. It's still a gold standard for a tight end to get a thousand yards. Especially we ran the ball. You was running the ball. That's why so few tight ends had a thousand yards. because everybody ran the ball. Man. So I took it out.

And then they're like, you know, we want to do a contract extension. Man, I'm so happy. I took less, I took less money because I could have, could have got more. But at that time, Joe, I had three kids. I had to be eight. You had to get out you there. I said, what's your offering? Because I could have been, I could have, if I had just waited and my agent was like,

you should wait. I said, I can't wait. Yeah. I said, man, I got three kids. I don't really know. I said, I would love to wait. And I know they weren't trying to hear that. It's like, look, I might need y'all to hold a lot.

Man, please. Yeah. So I was like, hey, but that's all right. I said, that's all right. I get it. I get back to the table. Oh, yeah. I get back to the table.

Hey, hey, it probably kept you working hard too. Oh, man. Yeah. Did it? Oh, yeah. Joe, I was spending money like I was making a million dollars in a year. Between, between the kids. private school.

Yeah. Between kids private school, Ferrari, big men, sister, hey, buy my sister stump, you know, hey, because when I first got to Denver

Ocho, Joe, my girlfriend was in school, I was paying for her, you know, I was sitting a hub money so that you could pay for... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was that type of, that's me, Joe! Yeah, I can see that, man, I know you, I know you,

I know you a good dude, you know what I mean? Yeah. I can see you doing, there ain't nothing wrong with that, man. My mom, you know,

my mom, Like, hey, baby, you know your mom, your mom like, I'm like, mom, look, I don't know what you think. I said, but I ain't making spanky type money. But, hey, hey, hey, you running through that chick you got ain't a man. What? Man, please. Yo, I had to have a, a card signing. Man, I think I signed, what the car?

I think, oh, Joe, my rookie year, back then they used to send the cards to you, Joe. Yeah. But you know people start, you know how people are, Joe. they find somebody else signed the cards for it. They ruined it for everybody. I ain't gonna lie, I did that one time, boy. I was a rookie.

Okay, oh, Joe. Boy, they had to send me so many cards, but they had paid me a nice chunk of chain. I'm like, man, hey, ain't nowhere hell I'm better finish all these cards. I had my cousin sign them card. They sent them cards back so quick. Man, what is this?

Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, but no, man. Hey, bam, hey, I don't, I don't condone violence. But I just think the thing, because Tyler, you felt that type of way. I don't know what. You got paid.

They were upset at you because every time they turned around, you were hurt, Tyler. And Bam, never said a word. Bam, never said a word. Bam, never said, well, damn, man, bro. Show wish you was out here, X, Y, Z. And that's one of the reasons that I get it. You may be, because your name always came up. Yeah. They have made it abundantly clear.

Really the only person that was untouchable was Bam. Yeah. The only person that's been untouchable for the heat is Bam. Yeah. Right, rightfully so, though. There's a reason why. Because he's so dynamic and so versatile, Uncun-Ocho, you know you put him with the right squad.

Like, they put this great team in Miami that they got going now and they add a couple more pieces. Hey, man, you got a championship caliber team and he'll be the centerpiece of that. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello. My gosh.

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That would have, with escalators, would have been $303 million. So are they going to see that the screen, Ash. So his salaries, 27 is 43,000 $3,310,000. It could have been a tick below

$52,000. And then he goes to 46-770, and it could have been $56,0130. And then he goes to $50,0242, and it's a tick under $60.3 million. And 331, it goes 53.7 to

64.45. So basically he took a $51 million, $50-50-1 million cut to state. Furs chairman Peter J. Holt, CEO R.C. Buford and Brian Wright, and coach Ms. Johnson traveled to Paris to meet him and spend time with Victor and his family and his reps Friday. When Miyama essentially locked to earn a 300 Supermax if he played 65 games next year, but opted to take significant left sacrifice at a flashpoint for the Spurs to rise. NBA PPA is preparing to fight back hard

Against the second apron Especially now that the news of Wemby Passing up the Supermax To help the Spurs try to keep the roster together long term The CBA should not be put on the player In position where he has to carry the burden In order to keep a team together A system does that

We have a problem I agree Don't put that on us Don't put that on us on the players They always do that. And I knew this was going to come because we talked about with the Jalen Brunson. Yeah.

We talked with this, this is what teams are going to expect from their players. Nah, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's not going to do that, though. Especially teams that are not in a position like the Spurs are. The Spurs are in a perfect position where if you do take a discount, there's a good chance that we can get the finals.

But you know, our team players come up, you know, and they are eligible or supermax, they ain't taking no discount. Because, hey, we, we're very far. You know how they're going to paint the picture, though, Uncle, Ocho. You're selfish?

Yep. You know how they're going to paint the picture. They're going to paint the picture just like that. But I think, in Wemby's case, he's going to make so much money off the court here. He's going to make up all that. I'm going to get, because guess what? I can still get this max contract

and still get my money. Because guess what? I guarantee them tickets ain't going to get no cheaper. I know. Even though Wemby took a few. $50 million here. You think they're going to lower or raise the ticket prices every single year moving forward, Ocho? Are they going to.

Concession? Do you think they're going to raise or lower the concession every single year moving forward, Joe? Let me ask you a question. NBC, Amazon Prime, ESPN, tell me which one they gave a discount because these players are taking a discount. Right. You're right. We're going to talk about this in a second, Joe, before you go. You see what the Seattle Seahawks just went for, Joe, Ocho?

What they were for? 9.6. He bought the team in 1997 for $194 million. Damn. And that's crazy. Now, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was 2023, Washington sold for $6 billion. Three years later, an extra $3.6 billion.

Now, I want to know, did they say, you know what? I'm going to get your discount on this. I know we're worth about 9.6 but I'm going to let you have it for 9. You see how they do? And fans going to eat it up. Fans don't know.

Even if the team sacrifices money, you still going to pay full price. Your PSLs ain't going to go down. Your playoff tickets ain't going to price. It ain't going to go down. Right.

But hey, they've, they've, I'm not going to tell them to play a board. should or shouldn't do. That's your money. You want to take you, you want to give the team a discount? Give your team a discount. Hey, listen, you got Kat about to get ready to come up. What cat going to do?

Cat said, cat said he'd be willing to do it. That's what he said. But I'm looking, I already got me a ring. I would just get rid of saying that. Yeah, but you did in New York, you beloved. Like, you're. I'm going to be beloved in New York, too. They're going to pay me all my money.

Hey, but what about the squad, though? If we pay you all that money, we're going to get rid of two guys. We might have to let bridges or OG or harder somebody go. We want to keep the band together, though. We're running back, though. They just gave OG five years for 206. Brunson and 28 comes up. He'll be eligible before a 400.

I'm just, I don't tell anybody how to live their life. If that's what you want to do, Kat, if that's what you want to do to keep this thing together, keep it together. But all I'm saying is the owner said he's not going into the second apron. So he ain't willing to sacrifice nothing. But he wants the player to sacrifice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You see? Hey, y'all can hear me? People knocking on my throat. They're saying you too loud. Yeah, probably. Hey, security. But you got to be able to, you got to be able to some way somehow help teams that do draft pretty well.

and Ocho, you know what I mean? Like, it's got to be something they can help them. Because how do I get punished for drafting well? And obviously, I got to pay all these guys. But damn, it's got to be some type of stipulations to where it's got to be some in our favor. Well, it's going to be what you call them. OKC going to be faced with this.

Oh, yeah. You think they're going to get them guys a third contract, Joe? Give who a third contract? OKC with Shay and Chad and Jay and Jay Duff. So you mean to tell him I'm going to have Now I'm going to have three guys making $300 million? Right. I got three guys there.

I'm going to be a billion. So out of them three, one of them got to go. Absolutely. And before you know it, they're going to wheel them down and both of them have to go. Shays are the only, I believe Shays are still the only untouchable. Because think about it,

Boston only had two guys making that Supermatch money, and they say one of them had to go. Damn, so they're going to mess around and get J. Dubb up. Yeah. But here, the PA, this is what upsets me about player association, Gocho. Y'all agreed to this. You just did this deal. You agreed to it.

You got sellers' remorse now. You signed off on this because you were so hell bent on making sure teams don't become super teams that you gave this. And you knew the owners, like, I ain't no way in hell. I'm paying for all this. but what it does it punishes players that are in line to get Super Max contracts now teams get up off them

yeah that's basically what it's happening you sign this deal Terry Cruz T Cruz I've been knowing T Cruz he played with my brother so I've been knowing T Cruz 30 years when I sat down with him he said

a lot of people in Hollywood he said they nod yes but they mean no yes no Joe, they just signed this deal, Joe. Yeah. So unless the owners went back and put these stipulations in there after the fact, what are we complaining about, oh, Joe?

What are we complaining about, Joe, Joe, this is your field. Tell me what we're complaining about because you got these $1,500, $2,000 lawyers that can read better than what you can. tell me what was added. So with this second apron, did this just come in this year? Or was it in the CBA that you negotiated? I'm going to be honest with you, Ocho. I have no damn idea.

I don't. But this second April, I know it just started. You know what I mean? Because now you're having to break these teams up. But I don't know when it came into a play, whether it's been two or three years. But I'm just seeing the effects of it. Hold on.

I'm going to tell you when it started. However to see, say, NBA collective bargaining agreement is set to expire the end of 29-30 season. However, the league and the NBA Players Association have an option to opt out of the agreement one year early by declaring their intention to do so by 2028. Well, clearly they're going to opt out of it. Yeah. Clearly they're about to opt out of it. Yeah, but it was put in place to stop them damn super teams.

Yes. Yeah, so. Well, I think the thing is, Joe, and I get it. I get it. But the problem that you run into is that when I draft well and my players perform well, you also prevent me from being able to keep them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think a team should be penalized for that. If you draft well and your teams do well or your players overexceed expectations, man, you shouldn't be punished because you can't pay all of them. You know what I mean? Like there has to be some type of stipulations in there to where, hell, if I draft you, you know, we should be able to some way somehow keep you. And it don't really kill our salary cap like that.

The current agreement was ratified by the NBAPA membership in April of 2023. It took fact July the 1st, 2023. So, Joe, oh Joe, they signed off on this. Yeah. They signed off on this. And what? This bargaining agreement about 10 years, right? No, basically it's from 23, July of 23.

It was certified, ratified in July of 2020. So, and it goes until 2030, but you can opt out. If you can opt, you can say, okay, I want to opt out. And so you opt out a year before the ends. And so in 28, it could be the final year of it. So in other words, everything that's in this contract, Joe, was in there in 23 when they signed. it. Yeah. Yeah. But you see what happens, Joe, you're looking

at it like, if I get my max money, I don't care where I get it from. As long as I get my max money, whether I get it from OKC, whether I get it from Golden State, whether I get it from the Knicks, as long as I get $2.50, long as I get $3.50, I don't care who give it to me until you get on a team to have success. And you're like, hold on, wait a minute.

We're not going to be able to stay together. Because there's no middle ground, there's no in between. Either you get the max contract or hell you almost getting peanuts. You feel me? And that's kind of how it is. So, hey, man, they put them figures in front of them, boys. Ain't no telling, man.

I don't know. Ocho, we know firsthand because guys like everybody, it's the players joke. Because you know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to make the Supermax. Just like Ocho and I know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to get the $100 million to $200 million to $200 million. in the NFL. It's those guys that there are more guys that's going to, that's not going to make that

than the guys that are. And those guys that are not, those are the ones that, they're like, man, hey, bro, you made you, you already got you on a million in the bank. Yeah. I'm year to year, bro. I'm signed it.

I'm playing. Yeah. That's how it works. And that's how it's been, bro. So you got to basically say, look here, Ocho, I understand, bro, but I don't need, hey, tell the wife, no expensive gifts.

Don't get no second home. Don't do X, Y, Z, A, K. I don't really try to tell you how to do it, but you can't have no baby mama, because we about to have to shut this thing down for a year or two. That's a bad thing you want. In order to get what we want. Ooh.

It's hard to get everybody on that same thing. It is. It absolutely is. Especially with NFL players? Because, hey, I got the flaws, you know. I got me about four, five, got me, you know, I got me a G-wagon I got me a cullin'

Got me two plowses I got my mom 15, 20,000 square feet No, get mom something that she can clean herself Yeah Get mom 3,000 square feet You can good 20,000 Woo

3,000 How you're going to get a mom house bigger than yours? Because you've got to realize Ocho, a lot of times you get mom these big houses you got to pay to keep it up. Hello. You got to pay somebody

to cut the grass. You got to pay somebody coming there and clean. Get mom something they can clean. Hey, my sister can clean this right here. Pick up after yourself. It ain't nobody but two of y'all. You and granny.

Thanks. Hey. What's your own that one? But hopefully, like, they come to some type of resolution guys where they can figure this thing out. Because I agree, Joe, this burden should not.

be placed on the players. The players should not have to have the financial responsibility to say, we want to keep a team together. So what does the, what do the team do? Just sit back? I think the teams, I think they kind of knew all alone this was going to happen. Of course. Yeah, you was going to run into this problem. Look, they want all this money up front. They want these max dollars. But hell, at some point, some of these max players are going to have to start taking haircuts if they want to continue to play on great teams. Yeah. These owners knew that. Okay. Oh, Joe? But guess what?

But guess what the owners never do? They always, but they never give these TVs. They never give these partners. They don't give them a discount. And guess why? They don't give these sponsors and advertisers discount. Because guess what the Super Bowl ad going to be this year? $8 million. 30 second spot, Joe.

And they got 240 of them. Damn. Oh, yeah. But they're billionaires. They ain't giving no damn. They ain't cut that. That's my point. That's what at Ocho and I We were talking about it from the very beginning

How have billionaires convince normal fans To turn on the millionaires Which are the players Inside with them They're sharks, man They're smart Because they put it out there

You don't care about winning You're selfish And then you take some of your best players When you get Because first of all Once Tom Brady did it And they won The expectation of it

you see what Tom did. And fans start to believe, well, if you like Tom Brady, Tom Brady was making more off the field than he was on the field. Tom Brady's wife at the time was doing $30 million a year. Hell, if my wife did $30 million a year

and I'm doing $15, $20 a year, damn right I give you a $5 million haircut. But my wife ain't making that. As a matter of fact, she costing me money. You know your wife making money. If you marry somebody and they make you sign a pre-nup. Oh, man.

Oh, yeah. That mean you probably A manned in or something. It's reported that Travis signed a pre-nut with Taylor. She worked to, allegedly, she's worth $2 billion. When you making millions, you make

$20 million a year, plus off the field probably another $5.10, so you make $30 million a year. And your wife's here, slide you this piece of paper. And you have your lawyer read it over. what's that telling you? They ain't very many a situation like that. They ain't very many situations like that.

Hey, hey, you're going to feel the way, though? Hell no. I ain't feeling no way. Because I told people, I tell my homeboys all the time. They tell my shop, I ain't got no money like you. Man, I ain't got nothing. I say, good. That way you leave with your nothing.

All of your nothing. I don't want you leave with 50% of your nothing. Hey, the funny thing about it, I don't know the percentage. or I don't know the stat chat, you guys can probably find it faster than I can. You think about the wealthiest women in the world, right? Wealthiest women in the world. And what percentage of that wealth come from divorce?

A large chunk. Or inherited. Yeah. I'm not saying outside of inheritance. Yeah. Yeah, large, yeah, for sure. But inherited, most of it has come from divorce. So hopefully they can figure this thing out,

players figure it out. It's a lot of money to be made now because if somebody paid you $300 million, how much are you actually making them? Because they ain't turning a loss now. They never turn the loss. So if they wouldn't pay you $300 million, Joe, you're bringing them half a bill.

They don't even know it. Especially if you got one of these guys from overseas, you got a Wimby or you got a Luca? Why do you think they're trying to get NFL teams over there, Ocho? They try to get two teams over there because you just saw what they went for, right? So now a new team coming into the NFL,

you can't come in less than 10 bill. Hold on, they're trying to get it over where, huh? Overseed. They try to get two NFL teams overseas. Damn. That's a long flag, you know, obviously they got two teams over there and you stay, you play both teams.

You stay for two weeks. Ah, okay, okay. But at some point, the teams had to come here down. For sure. And then they'll stay two weeks, three weeks, and then they'll go back over there and stay two, three weeks. I like that. I like that idea.

That ain't bad. But for $20 billion, what you think, the owner's thinking? And they chopped that up 30 ways. Ooh. You said, how many billions? 10 billion. You ain't able to, because you're not going to be able to get one for less than 10.

Yeah. The Cincinnati, the Bengals value just increased. I think the Cincinnati, I think y'all, and I ain't taking no. shot at you. I think you guys are the least valuable team. But least valuable least valuable now is $5 billion. Okay,

okay, we rich. Five billion. John Morant spoke for the first time about the perceived bad boy image since being traded to Portland. Let's take a listen to what Jock had to say. I mean, obviously I've I've done, you know, what I've done in the past,

but it's been addressed and handled already. So I don't see why, you know, years later, that's still the topic when nothing happened since, you know? And I felt like if I was that guy, y'all wouldn't be talking to me now. I wouldn't be here, so. You did build up a big fan. I like, I agree with you say it.

He's like, look, bro, give me, give me a chance. What I did there, I did there. I'm here. This is a new slate. I'm with a new team. If I run a file, you have the right to bring that up. Now, we don't get it out of the way now,

Ocho, Joe, we addressed it. Yeah. I don't need every time that we have a conversation. You talk about what I did in Memphis two years, three years ago. Hey, hey, hey, but we know, we know it's going to follow him. Okay, Ocho.

I know he don't want to hear. I know he want to move on. I know he want to start over. We have a new slate. but hey man some of the images that's left in people's head bro they want to know

your thought process what you were thinking at the time what he has to do is just stay focused bro and keep grinding and that's it head down keep chopping wood partner but along with that too uncle Joe obviously chat

y'all you're all listening to me too we have to understand what makes Jarrah special you know what makes him as exciting in the polarizing player that he was in Memphis not the off the court stuff. I'm talking about him on the court. Still remaining allowing him to be himself

without losing his edge. You know, you can tape it back a little bit, but don't take away what makes him special. There's a certain it factor that he has and there's a certain presence and ore that he brings and energy, you know, to a team. And we saw that with Memphis. So we don't want to take it all of you from me.

No, we just don't want, Alway, how about this here, Ocho? Just keep the guns off social media and keep the guns out of the building where you shouldn't have them. That's all we ask you, Joe. Hold on. I got one more. Okay, can he throw the grenade at least?

Let the grenade go. Let the grenade go. Hey, listen, I like all the antics because, you know, for one, it lets me know he's enjoying the game and having fun. And it seems like he's lost his joy for the game, Uncle Ocho. And I could be wrong, but just by listening to him talk, like I want to see him get back enthused about playing the game.

game. I want to see, I want to get back, I want to see him get back to being that kid that we enjoy watching, bro, who was box office, star stuttered every night, you know, putting on the show. That's what you want to see, man, like, you know, body language don't lie. You know what I'm saying? So when I see you out there training, working out, playing, like, I want to see that enthusiasm coming from him, bro. Like, I just feel like the past couple years because he's, he's dealt with so many injuries and so many setbacks, you know, that it's something. took the love and joy and passion away from him. Even times he has played Uncle Ocho Hill.

He's just been, you know, just kind of out there. I want to see him get back to having fun, man. And you know what also is too long? You know, not only it changes scenery, it can be a good thing for you, but it could also be a wake-up home. Absolutely woke him up. They moved it.

He was their franchise player. I was they going to say that. You're the franchise player. You're the face of Memphis over there. And they had the nerve to move me. And they didn't get a whole lot for you. That lets you know, Joe.

Now, the next move, you know it's going to be. Because they got little of nothing for an all-NBA player, an all-star player. That's 25, 26 years of age. They basically had to give him away. Yeah. Yeah. That ain't normal, bro.

So, hey, hey, he's another guy. You know, we talk about J.B., who's going to be motivated. I'm looking forward to Jai, you know, being motivated as well, bro. Getting back to enjoying the game, man. I got to see it, bro. He got too much talent.

He's a phenomenal man. Too much talent, Uncle Ocho. I got to see it, but guys move to a new start for me. I know it's back there, but, okay, change the scenery. Now, he go here cut up. Now, you just lost me.

But I'm willing to get a man the benefit of the doubt that he's at a new scenery. He has a change of scenery. I believe he, Hopefully he's learned his lesson, and he's going to, hey, he's going to be a model citizen. Like I said, just keep the guns off social media. Don't take him where you're not supposed to have them.

You'd be fine. I don't know what made the man put a fire on social media, Joe. I feel don't understand that. Hey, hey, just. You don't be thinking, Joe. You don't. I mean, you get so caught in the moment, bro, from the times that it did happen to him when he was in the little strip joint and rhyme with his partner like you get so caught up in the moment bro you

I don't know man I ain't I don't know Joe I ain't never Joe we we flew look we I ain't never thought about taking that taking up taking that tool with me on the road I ain't either I'm gonna lie to and it used to be a lot easier back in the day boy you could you get that thing on there I'm talking about when nobody know nothing nothing because we pulled right up got off ain't had to go through no metal deter they just right to rock your ass right up on the steps of the plane Nothing. Nothing, bro. I'm talking about. And I definitely, I definitely ain't took no.

Barney Porties to tell us all the time since the son, if you got to take a weapon somewhere with you, you don't need to go there. Right, right. You don't need to go there. He learned his lesson, man. He learned his lesson. I believe so. Yeah. I believe so.

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here's Draymond, full quote about UD. Let's take a listen. I remember one person when, when the, Poole incident happened with me was who was really, really, really outspoken about this, about it, who like everyone else didn't have a ton of context because you weren't there, but was really outspoken about it. And it really bothered me was eudanism. And the reason it really bothered me is because, man, everybody can have an opinion and your opinion is what European is, but, you know, I saw you, Donah's

hasn't get into it with guys on teams that was younger than him before, a la Jimmy Butler. I had seen that before, and then he came out, and he like, that's ridiculous. You get into it with your young guy, I can't, but I would never, I can't believe you did that. And it really bothered me because I was like, damn, man, like, so this dude ain't never been in, and this dude ain't never been in practice where somebody getting into a fight.

He never got into a fight in practice. Maybe not even in Miami the whole time. Maybe they don't have fights in their practices, you know, the heat, what is it, heat culture or heat way or maybe they don't have fights. Like, it really threw me for a loop because, you know, I don't really care what most people say. But when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter when you have respect for guys. And so when I saw that, I was just like, damn, man, this is doing what everybody else doing. and acting like he. And so when I first saw this, I was like, damn, this is two young guys you don as

has them raised. And yeah, they're not on the same team no more, but if you raise this young guy in the light of what you were saying about me and now he punches this young, other young guy that y'all kind of co-raised, are you going to have that same energy? And the reality is, I don't really want them to have the same energy because I love Bam. That's my brother. love BAMs. My dog,

won a gold medal together. So I actually wouldn't want someone even had that same energy towards BAM. However, I just was wondering like, man, I wonder what you,

Donis, how's I'm going to say? He said something back. Well, here's the thing. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but you D tweeted at Money Green. I see things just don't change. You was on some. some suck-ish for years

when you swung on Jordan Pool and you on some sucker-ish now. I usually don't engage, but since you went so far to the left to get my attention, here it is. If you think your big 32-year-old, three or four rings at the time, have it ass swinging on the 23-year-old Jordan Pool

at the same time, then you're even more delusional than I thought. As you can see right there, he said, look, Bam is 28, Tyler Hero is 26. And, you know, he goes on, It's call it heat coach or whatever you want before I let one player disrespect pro, Spow in front of the squad.

Cut his legs out, disrupt 15 other guys with trying to get accomplished. I'll kick his ass. I owe that to Zoh, the Tim, Glenn, and the rest of the OG. I don't really vibe you. And I think you know that unless it's me in prime talk hoops, I won't mention you at all. But you brought basically said you brought it to me, so that's what it is, what it is. me personally, I don't think, look,

I see it from both sides of the equation, Joe, but I look at it like this. And the one mistake that Jordan Pool left, Ocho, you know if you got tension. Okay, somebody on one's end of the field. And y'all talking, man, F you, Ocho? Ninja, F you. You ain't going to do nothing.

All that woman, all that talking. As long as you over there, I'm over here. We good. What I'm not going to let you do, Ocho and Joe, is closed the distance, and you still got that hostility. Yeah. Hello. Yeah.

That was Jordan Poole's mistake. Yeah. First of all, somebody got that hostility, you don't let him walk up on you. You get off the first one. Now, if he's still standing off that, you might have to take off running. But if you get off a clean shot, and he's still standing, you're going to get your ass whipped anyway. Hey, well, two things you got to have, right? I'm not sure where Jordan Poole grew up.

I don't know anything about his background. I don't either. You always have to understand, for one, spatial awareness. awareness. Yes. Spatial awareness, you know, and understanding and having self-awareness, especially when you, when you get into it with somebody, I think maybe Jordan Fool thought, well, we're in a structuring environment, you know, we're at practice. I don't expect anything like that to happen here. But that's what most of the time. We'll know.

It happens. So, I mean, it happened. What do they do that at? Joe, what do they do that at? You argue, you don't see pickups. Do you know all of a sudden if two people and, obviously, I'm in a football field, but in a basketball court. The basketball gym is only, in practice gym, is only so big. So you could hear everything he's saying. And that man getting closer and closer. And y'all still, the elevation

is in both of you guys' voice. Right. Yeah. And you let that man close the distance to be able to get that shot off on you? Yeah, because if you see the video, Jordan Poole kind of pushed him first. And then that's when they came with the, you know. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, I don't really know, bro.

I think in certain situations, certain guys, he wasn't thinking that Draymond was going. He ain't thinking. Man, this is my damn teammate. Yeah, we're going to have disagreements. We're going to be pissed at each other. But see, basketball and football are different. Do you have fights in the locker rooms?

No, yeah. But I bet you're in football. Hell, it's 52, 53 out on the damn team. It's way more fights than football than it is in basketball, especially doing teammates. Y'all play a gladiator sport. You know what I mean? it's just a difference.

And you know why, Joe? Because as you said, there's so much testosterone and ain't nobody willing to let nobody punk them. Right. So somebody might be willing to take an ass cutting. Just to prove a point, you're not been to punk me. Especially when you start that, when that

boys start elevating, you know, though, Joe, we've all done a bit around, we don't been in a fight, I ain't been in no 15, I ain't no professional fighter. But I've been in enough fights and I've seen enough situations. I'm like, okay, let me try to diffuse this. because I already see where this thing is heading. Yeah, yeah.

Ain't nobody backing down, and ain't nobody going back down unless somebody try to let cool ahead prevail. I'm like, hey, man, come on, bro. We don't need this. Nah, hey, I'm going to see if he really owned what he's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You really got to have somebody to step in and de-escalate the situation. Because even though we teammates, you know, man, when them emotions get high, boy, you ain't studying all right, you're ready to go back yard. Damn that team, man, I don't know you. I ain't never see you before.

A day of my damn life. Fag. Fag. You acting reckless. And there are certain key words, all that. Hey, suck my you know what. You're a B. You're my...

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. We have one trigger word down in Miami. Actually, two trigger words down here in Miami. If you call anybody this, it's time to go. I don't care where you're at your school, graduation.

You call somebody a fuck, nigga? Yeah. Man, listen, hey. Tell your grandma. Hey, tell you, Grandma, I take a church hat off. I'm glad. I'm glad I know your trigger word now. I got you. Hey, listen.

Hey, Joe, don't, don't play with yourself like that. Oh, this fucking thing. And I get with Bam, say, Drayman, you 32, 33 years old. That's a 23-year-old. He ain't expecting that. He's not expecting this OG. But you have to get, have to, you have to like, okay,

we're in an argument. lets me know that, hold on, this ain't normal. Yeah. Have you seen, have you ever seen Drey Mine getting the argument with Clay? Have you ever seen him getting an argument with Lou? Have you ever seen him get no argument with Steph? So you got to, hey, you got to like, okay, I got to maneuver this, man. Hold on, wait a minute.

And he getting close and close. And like you said, Joe, he pushed him. Man, that man don't walked up on you. Yeah. He don't close the discos. Yeah. No. Yeah.

I'm sorry. It's super unfortunate, but I disagree with Dremont because it's a whole total different situation. Yeah, that man wasn't talking about you. Yeah, yeah. What the story is alleged is that he was talking about how he was cooking him in practice. Yeah. Tiling Hero allegedly took screen shot of it. Right, right.

That's a whole different. I don't believe Bam would have just got into an argument, nothing. All of a sudden, they stay teammates. And all of a sudden, they get into an argument. argument about something. I don't see that happening. I don't know people get mad and people say things, you know, sometimes, hey, and a lot of times when people get upset, they've been dying to tell you that anyway.

Yeah. They just did an opportunity to never presented itself, Joe, for them to tell you how they really felt about you. This was the opportunity to really tell you how they really feel. And then there other reports came out that says, you know, Jimmy Butler allegedly distanced himself for ban, because they felt bailed. was untouchable, the Heat Organization. And I read there are other people in the Heat

organization, I don't know. I mean, I'm just reading it. I'm like, oh, whatever. It is what it is. But I'm just saying, I don't agree with Dre on this one. I understand what he's, his point he's trying to make. But it's, the question is, if

Tyler Hero doesn't say what he says about Bam, does Bam have the reaction that he has? I don't believe he does. He could, I don't know Bam. All I know is Bam what I see on television. I don't know the man. Nah. It's certain stuff you can keep in house, even if his room was about you and maybe you even know them to be true. But when somebody post something about you, bro, it's different. Hey, when we

see each other and at least we got a rap about it. You feel me? Yes, for sure. Like, you know what mean? Like, I don't know if Bam just felt the way and just stole off on him, but damn, bro, this is how you've been feeling the whole time? Well, that seems to be the consensus that he walked up and, hey, he was really pow. Damn, you didn't even think what's wrong. You need to get wrong guy. You just said, what's the pile? But like I said, I don't know,

Bam. And that's the thing. Also, Joe, and Ocho, you know this. You got to know a person's disposition. You got to know who you can joke with. You got to know who you can play with. You got to know who you could like, certain things like, hey, certain people, you can't make no jokes.

Right. About their family, by the kids, about anything. You make a joke about guys, uh, uh, uh, a play and do be ready to fight. All right. Hell, my grandma could have caught that one. Yeah. And my way, hey, shawah, let that go. Oh, I'll let it go just like you let that ball go.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you got, you got to know because everybody don't play like you play. No, no. You got to be aware. It's all about self-awareness, knowing who you can joke with, especially in a locker room with 53 players. You know who to play with?

You know who not to play with. I had the problem. You know how I play around. Remember, well, you don't think he was there yet. When Zeus, Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown. Man, Joe. I had left.

I had retired when he came back to Baltimore. Yeah, boy. Yeah, yeah. I had already retired, Joe. It's a story, Joe. We had that warming up before the game start. You know how the players warm up. I'm like, God, Lee, man, dude, big as hell.

Mind you, me being my funny self. I went and jumped on his back. You know how people jump on your back? Yeah. On his back. You didn't know him? No, I ain't know him. I ain't knowing him.

But I thought, you know, I thought, you know, when he saw it was me, he was going to be cool. Yeah. Man, Uncle Joe, man, that niggie tried to whip my ass on the field, boy. I had to run to the locker room just to finish warming up. I had to go get Big Willie. I had that Big Willie come out and talk to him. You know, Orlando Brown Jr.

He talked about that story all the time. Every time I've seen him, man. It ain't rest pop soul, man. Hey, everybody don't play the same, though. I learned the hallway because he was, hey, Joe, he was dead serious. No, he wasn't a guy that, that, he don't play.

He's like, he's playing. I'm like, I'm just playing, man. He's out, I don't go, but fuck, who the fuck you think I am? He'd be jumping on my back. Yeah. And he squared up with me. And man, I took off to the locker room, man. Hey, hey, I bet you didn't jump on nobody else down back, did you? Well, yeah, Ray, Ray Lewis.

Yeah, you saw what I did. I did. Come on. Come on. Hey, hey, but you're right. But you're right, though. you don't know bro and you take a guy's

demeanor for granted he may have been thinking like man I ain't never seen bam pissed out he ain't gonna do nothing but though yeah mess around and find out and what happened if the day that you want to joke he's having the worst day of his life

you're gonna catch the repercussions you don't know what somebody endured while they were a child oh man you don't know their background because remember now when you deal with an individual, lady deal with a guy, guy deal with a lady, you're not just dealing with her, you're dealing with her past, you're dealing with her trauma. Yeah.

So you don't know it might be a situation that somebody has said something to him and he wasn't in a situation where he could defend himself like he can now. Yeah. Now you put him right back in a situation that he had hoped he'd never be in, but he can defend himself now. Yeah. Now you got hell on your hands. Now you got the aid.

Everybody, hey, you got to be a hostage negotiator to talk his ass down. I'm just saying. And now, hey, and now you got a black eye.

See it, plan. Now, now it's, it's, it's, because I'm like, like,

you walk around on the team. Y'all still got to be teammates and this man that whipped you. How that worked? Oh, how that worked? Hey.

I'm just saying, I'm just, Chad, I don't know. Because I've been on team when we had fights. And, you know, I ain't know. Everybody knows. I was kind of like the voice of reason. You know, I'm trying to keep peace with everybody, the defense, offense.

But then sometimes, hey, you say something by somebody mama, and his mama's dead. Oh, it's up. It's up. Hey, I have. How many fights you know? You didn't know that? John, you never had no fights in training camp, especially training camp. No.

No, I have, no, man. Oh, Joe. Man, it's 100 degrees. We're going to be out of that. two hours. I'm saving that out of you. Yeah, I had one fight. I never forget. I had one fight with our safety at the time. I think it was, I don't think you don't know if you remember

his name was Madhu Williams. He was really, he was good. He was nice. I know, yeah. Really, really solid safety. And we got into it. I forgot what it was. Maybe hit me after a play or something like that. But yeah, it wasn't long. We just know a little scuffle. Yeah. That was it. I was the only time, only time I

ever had a fight. And I was in training camp at Georgetown. And probably we had that fight. We was tired of playing. against each other. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He probably, probably overly aggressive.

Yeah. Oh, Joe? He was overly aggressive. I think so. I think he might have been. And knowing that, okay, we got the pads on, if anything, just thud me up. Of all players that actually hit, don't hit me. Yeah.

We need, hey, Joe, don't hit me. We need to be on Sunday. You know, and I just, you know, well, Marvin, Marvin said, well, Marvin hit that whistle. Man, two motherfuckersers. don't get you all that and then that was the end of it right there. Dang. No, I, hey, because I already know, well, we're not practicing hard enough. If you got that kind of energy to fight, we're not practicing hard enough.

Let's go. Another 30 minutes. Bro, we are out of 45 already. Yeah. And in two a day? Oh, man. No, bro. Now, if you brought, you know, you have a joint practice on your, that's something in time

is different. Yeah. Now, that's always a fight. You're not a one. I'm tired, man. What you want to do, man. Hey, let's get out of this practice. Every play, Joe,

br-h-quh-quh-crop, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, cut it out. Hey, get his ass out of there. Somebody in there to get in there. Next play, same thing. Same thing. You know what's funny, Joe, Uncle Joe? What's that?

Every year on ESPN, they have these long think pieces about joint practices and everybody fighting. Mind you, I've been retired. now 13 years and every joint practice, it's a fight, and they get on ESP and act like, oh, my goodness, I can't believe they fighting in training care.

I can't. Hello, have y'all ever been in an organized activity with two different teams competing with pads on? Hey. That's going to always be a fight. And plus, hell, y'all tired of playing against each other, so once you do play against somebody else, all that testosterone started to come out

because y'all playing a sport that's built off contact. Yeah, y'all looking for it. Y'all looking for the confrontation. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Joe, we play a sport that was built on intimidation. That's a good one. That's a good one.

We're trying to move a man. We're trying to break a man's spirit. Yes. That's what football was founded on. You got a plot of land. I got a plot of land. My job is to try to get, as far as I'm, can on your plot of land.

Your job is to try to get as far as I can, you can on my plot of land. I ain't going nowhere. Because I know if you keep sitting up shop on my side, pretty soon you're going to own the real estate and I ain't going to have nothing. Hello. Hello. I like that. And it's so funny, if you think about Uncle Joe,

I mean, obviously, y'all see me in person. Joe, you see me, you see me, you know, for years is the intimidating factor is I wasn't able to do it because I'm not imposingly intimidating. at all. Don't know. I tried to intimidate as well, but I played the mental game.

Right. Trash talking. Now, if I get you out your game, I'm going to get you out your game up here. Not with this, because I don't have that. So I had to use talking trash and get you out of the game.

If I can get you angry, I got you. Yeah, for sure. I got you by this much. I just need to get you angry. I need to get you to converse with me, which is why I never wore a mouthpeen, Joe. I ain't where mouthpiece no purpose.

If I can get you in a conversation, I got him all game. But you know what? Even no matter where I've been, you know, we playing cards, we rolling dice, I say, look, guys, hey, somebody going to win, somebody going to lose. Somebody going to be talking ish, and somebody going to get upset. We're going to keep our hands to ourself. Yes, sir.

Ain't nobody here got, I got kids. You got kids, you got kids, you got kids. But I don't see none of them right here at this table. Keep your hands to yourself. We fine. We find. You know how they do. We're cool.

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