Club Shay Shay - Best of NBA News Part 2: Lakers HIRE NEW assistant GM + Anthony Edwards responds to dap up BACKLASH + Pat Bev calls Myles Turner a SNITCH

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson bring you the Best of the NBA Playoffs on Nightcap! The crew reacts to: Anthony Edwards openly celebrating Victor Wembanyama's ejection in the semifinals, and Shannon can't hold back his frustration over the Los Angeles Lakers deciding to hire a rocket scientist instead of building a championship roster. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Pat Bev calls Myles Turner a snitch20:11 - Anthony Edwards responds to backlash over dapping up Spurs early37:20 - Edwards details what it's like to play Wemby1:01:40 - Lakers hire new assistant GM1:15:09 - Joe Mazzulla named 2025-2026 Coach of the Year (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is what Pat Bell said. Pat Bell spoke about it today, saying a damn snitch. I played for Milwaukee Bucks. I've never seen Yadis Ajikoumpo late one time. I played for the L.A. Clippers with Doc. For the Bucks with Doc. He was a player in the past, and he's very lenient when it comes to practicing. You don't hear people complaining when they get days off.

So for him to get on a platform and discuss head coach main players, especially coming from a team where expected a lot more from Miles Turner is an issue. You played with Bud, Adrian Griffin, now you play with Doc. You played a couple of the different places. The environment in Milwaukee under Doc, how different was it with Bud? How different was it with Adrian Griffin? What was expected? How was it?

I mean, for real, it's a tough job to have, for real, you feel me? When I first got here in Milwaukee, you know, we were a championship team with championship pedigree with, you know, views of winning the championship. My first year on the team, we end up winning the chip, you know what I'm saying? Coach Bud get fired a couple, you know what I'm saying, years later, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Coach Bull was just a different coach. He was real strict.

He wasn't like a players coach He wanted a coach that let the players You know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying Do certain things He was like a dictator He wanted to do everything He wanted to he wanted to like

Be controlled of everything He was a control freak But it worked for him And he worked for us at the time So it was cool you know what I'm saying But you still got guys in your team That's you know what I'm saying Of caliber who they is

They kind of want to like Open up and be more such and such You know what I'm saying We get agent Griffin He was there for a couple months He seems still the great guy. Shout out Adrian Griffin. Then you get Doc River.

He's just a super player coach, bro. Like super player coach. Always about the players, what the players want. And he's super lenient on certain things. Obviously, when Mowell and Brianna Stewart, their podcast, when it shared and aired online, if you ain't see my tweet, I tweeted like, hey, bro, is this AI? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You know what I don't say? Because I don't know what to believe no more. I'm for real because, you know, it got so much things on here. You couldn't believe he was discussing business behind closed doors in a public form. You know what I didn't believe that? You know what I'm like, damn, like for real? So I've been on the team for six years, bro.

And you know what I'm saying? I ain't never seen any, you know what I'm saying, late to anything. Obviously, superstar players, if you play any professional sport, you know what I'm saying, superstar players get kind of superstar treatment, you know what I'm saying? I'm not here to take up for Yonnas or whatever it is, but, you know what I'm saying? After the game, if my man is 40 minutes, 50 minutes late, it's because, God damn, oh, shit, I didn't got body slammed out there on the court. She, I didn't, I got, I got 30, shit, niggins threw me on the ground.

Shit, I didn't, I didn't got five, six times and hit the flow 18 times. I got to get my, after the game. Shit, motherfuckers live. Motherfuckers get treatment. Yeah. You got media, so, like, I don't really understand the, oh, yo, we, we late or whatever it is. I never understood that.

But at the same time, I do feel like as a leader of a team who bearing her for a minute, who bearing for six years. Like, I'd have to clear that part up, bro. Like, yeah, like, when it's, I think it's kind of out of context when a motherfucker like, oh, yeah, motherfucker late. It might have been, like, oh, yeah, like, motherfucker out of the game or, you know what I'm saying, I'm getting treatment out of the game. Like, just clear that up.

Like, motherfucker might be late. to the game because, you know what I'm saying? The bus took off late. They met the plane or whatever it is because somebody was getting treatment. Everybody getting treatment like whatever it is. But it wasn't nothing like our culture messed up or like we over here just running over Doc Rivas or something. I wouldn't put it in that aspect at all.

But what he said is that we're scheduled to take off from a flight. And the flight might be scheduled to leave at two third, two. He said guys were showing up an hour late, maybe two hours late. He didn't mention anything after the plate. Now, I ain't trying to stir up nothing. Hey, man, weekend. What did he get, okay, clear this up.

What did he get wrong? Because Pat Bell said he played with Milwaukee and Janis wasn't never late. So this man just came out and lied. Did he lie? If he lied, just say, hey, man, he lied. Yeah, I think he just kind of got carried away. I think he just kind of got carried away.

Obviously, you got a podcast now. And, you know, just, you know, saying sitting here to chatter. But sometimes for real, for real, on these Zoom calls and things like that, like, you kind of forget that it's live. You kind of forget that. You kind of forget that. You kind of forget that.

Like, you kind of forget that. You kind of get lost in the conversation. You get lost in doing things. And, you know what I'm saying? As a human being, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a over-exaggerator, too. Like, I ain't going to sit here and lie on nobody or something. But if I'm talking to my homeboy or my friend or something, I might just get him hyped up or so I'm, juke the story of a bit more.

Like, yeah. But, like, I'm here just to say, like, nah, bro, like, as a leader of the team who's been here six years, who pride myself on respect, we've proud myself on winning, building habits, all that, man. I don't think it wasn't nothing like that. It was, if anything, if Big Brother Layton, I ain't here to take up, like I said, but, brother late, it's from after game getting treatment because I didn't want to war tonight. You feel me? Like, that's probably the only time somebody wait on somebody or real. Hey. What about the meetings?

He said meetings got film session guys come late sometimes they wouldn't come. Hey, I'm going to get this too. For real, you know what I'm saying? I might skip me a treatment session and we in Utah and we got LA. Tonight we're going to LA. Yeah. I pride me on God's to stand out there late. You know what I'm saying?

I'm probably on God staying out there late, you know what I'm saying? Right. Treatment in every time where it is. I might I might say, hey, no, I don't need no ice today. get me in the shower, man. We got y'allel. You want to y'all eight for a couple days? Yeah.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. One of the other situations. Hey, I think even, even listen to BP, you're saying Doc Rivers is a players coach. Doc used to coach a veteran guy. So I can see how he's leaning like that. Yeah.

Coaching that Boston Celtics team, because when you got, the thing is when your top guys hold each other accountable, bro, the coach ain't really got to do a whole hell of a lot. a lot. You know what I mean? And I think Doc has been put in those situations, especially dealing with that Boston team with KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce. Hell, everybody else just kind of fell in line

because those guys were, you know, real true leaders and obviously ended up being champion. It's just tough, though. It's just tough, though. Yeah, I think about it too, though, big brothers. Like, we in Milwaukee, and we got championship aspirations. Like, you know what I'm saying?

So, like, it's the littlest thing that we do going to get proudly, you know, I'm saying, exaggerated because everybody trying to get yons to leave. You know, we're like, everybody trying to stir the narrative up. Like, that's just what it is. So, like, any little thing, any little five game losing streak, like, that's been, like, the narrative for like five years. So I kind of just get it and I kind of just take it with a grain of salt for real.

Like, ain't nothing wrong with the culture or none of that. I ain't heard to Dossack team, team drama like somebody said online. I ain't Dossack no team drama. I call it how I see it. We got a cool-ass team with a full of, a full of, 18 guys who mess with each other. We just didn't have a good year this year. That's all it was.

Let me ask you this. Considering what was said, how do you guys, if he's back on the team, now you don't know if you talk to Yonis, I don't know and Jimmy Haslam, who owns half of the team, a large chunk of the team says, look, either he signs the extension or he's going to get traded.

Now, with that being said, you back in that locker room, Miles Turner comes back. Hey, Hey, Hey, P, P,

P, B, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, B, B,

because, like you said, you've been in league, what, 11 years, not B, Pee?

11 years, yeah. So you, you know certain things, because, hey, the worst thing is a dude be talking,

and they'd be talking to their girlfriend, their wife, and they'd be pillar talking, and again, Yeah, man, I would say like this, like, especially if you're on a team that didn't make the playoffs. I think right now in this period, while the season's still going on, while guys by the start ramping their workouts back up,

start trending towards their next season, I think it's just super important right now that you kind of just focus on your craft, your body and your mind. All the extra stuff that's going on, you can't control. As a pro, you got control the controllables. That's your work ethic. That's you being a pro every day. And as you having the right attitude towards what's going on, obviously right now, I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if y'allnie going to be on the team.

I don't know if I'm going to be on the team. I don't know who's going to be here. But one thing I'm going to do each and every year is prepare myself for whatever is to come. So when that time comes and we all in the locker room again, whatever it is, it shouldn't be no bad blood, whatever it is. I'm here to fight. I'm here to win.

I'm here to do my job. You got a conversation. You got to have a conversational BP. You got to say, hey, bro, bro, look, I understand. We get carried away. Nah, no, we get carried. I get it, Cud. We get carried away, Cud.

But you put, you put everybody in a bad spot. Yeah, for sure, though. He definitely, definitely. He put everybody in a bad spot. Definitely did. I didn't, I didn't like that it was a lot of media. Like, like, my mom and one of my best friends had sent it to me, like, around, like, 3.30 p.m. central time, bro.

And at the time, I looked at the time, I looked at the time, at it and I said, I'm like, damn, like, all right, cool. Like, but then I kept going back and looking at it, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, like, that shit is kind of bad. But I ain't think that shit was going to blow up like you blew up. Boy, he said Yonis was coming an hour, two hours late. What you mean, BP? But I didn't think it was going to go like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, God damn, all these things are all that crazy. Like, that shit went crazy, bro. Yeah. And then, like, it kind of put, then it kind of put everybody's, like, we ain't being leaders. Like, we ain't doing all this extra shit. It ain't even like that for real. It just got kind of took out of context. Like, you can ask like, bro, literally we have the same seven people at our airport

that want us to sign things. Literally, we have the same, same seven people. Like some teams might have 30 people, 40 people, but you know what I'm saying? We got these same dedicated seven people that come want us to sign something every time we take off. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a TV. Somebody needs to call one of them people right now and ask him who later. They're going to say nobody will lay

Ever bro They want your honest to stay Go ahead Joe what you wanted to say It's going to be a damn team meeting When we link back up I'm saying I don't know why BP to my I was die y'all you know

Good way Somebody to dime that out like that Joe the damage But I don't want no more damage to be done But I don't want no more damage to be done There you go Just because I'd have one accident That don't mean I'm going to cancel my insurance

Well once you snitch you are in this This is really strange. Ain't nothing to talk about. They media team, I ain't necessarily just saying like the players, but their media team is probably going have some one-on-ones or a team or collectively a team unit sit down

and be like, hey, look, we got to watch what we say. Look, I think that's because of how media is evolving and, you know, you got guys with our own podcast now who are currently still playing. Yeah, I think it kind of it kind of sways, you know, information

meaning like, you know, like I felt like that was too much damn information to give up, bro. Like, it's just certain things, certain things you just take with you. However y'all deal with it, you'll deal with it, y'all deal with it, but you never go on no podcast

and say how your infrastructure is working. Hey, Joe, on the BP, there's an unwritten rule in sports. There's an unwritten rule. Nobody has to tell you about that goddamn rule. There's certain things you don't discuss. There's certain things. things you don't talk about that happens

inside locker rooms or construction environments. Nobody has to explain that to you. Uncle, I got a bunch of goddamn stories. We've been on here three years. I have yet to talk about anybody on this goddamn show about anything that went on while I was playing. But we also know, Ocho, we know who will talk.

And guess what? Hey, what y'all talking about? Go, huh. We ain't talking about nothing in front of you. punk ass because we already know that's what we're talking about. Hey, and look, we've all been in enough locker room.

We played enough. Be it high school, college, pro NBA, NFL, we know, we know what guys will talk. Because guess what?

It might not be a situation where they go public. It might be a situation what? They go talk to it. Now, you know, when they're cut to them, you don't cut of them things, their shoulder down you out by then. Oh, man.

Come on. Oh, oh, oh, so you, oh, you, oh, you see your old boy, huh? Hold on, who told you that? Yeah. So, you ain't got to tell me nothing. So I already know, yes, we're going to have to have a conversation. I ain't going to lie to you, whether you have a conversation or not, but I'm saying if I was in the locker room and something like that of that magnitude.

But it's hard, it's hard for us right now to have a conversation when, like, the future is just so blurry. Yeah. Like the future is so blurry right now that like right now, like I said, like before, like God need to worry about themselves being the best they can be coming back and trying to change the narrative about whatever, you know what I'm saying, the media has put on them or the team, whatever it is. Because right now, bro, like you said, bro, like you just said, like the owner said that by June, the draft, whatever it is, they're going to do something with Yonah's whatever it is. So that's like, both. He's moving. Yeah. So, like, the future blurry, so we can't really have them conversations until we know who

on the team, for real. You know what I'm saying? Like, right now, shit, it's mono-e-mono, for real. Like, you could talk to somebody. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, see, right now you'd be trying to get in the gym, stay ready, stay sharp. Yeah, yeah. Real, like, after the season, though, we're, like, you want to have those conversations

in dialogue, like, I talked to all my God. I was just with GT last week, you know what I'm saying? I hang out with all my teammates and talk to them, whatever. is, but that one kind of just stung a little bit. So I'm going to give it a few. But I was, I'm just, ooh, I was like, boy, I already knew when I saw this, I said in the, I said, I said, boy, this is he about to shock the conscience of the NBA. Yeah.

I said, it's not what he said, it's what, if he said, oh, there are a lot of people late, people could have deduced whatever they wanted. Nobody would have ever assumed it was yonis. The mere fact that he's like, well, when she asks who some of your worst offenders, they didn't put the hot light on him. They didn't waterboard him. They didn't beat him with the telephone book. They didn't put no, they didn't do none of that.

Oh, y'allis. Oh, y'all would be late for about an hour. Oh, that's what God damn? You got to make him extract some information out of you. You can't just give it all up. Yeah. In the military, they say when you get captured behind enemy lines, is name, ranked serial number.

That's all you give them. Yeah. What's your name? What's your rank? Give me your serial number. Man, he doesn't told him, hey, look and check this out. They're going to hit you all tomorrow about four o'clock.

Yeah. Yeah. Whoa, damn. Make them extract that information. Pull a couple of teeth. Shop me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying.

You just bother me. Hey, on to what you're saying is. And now these podcasts and some, look, the thing is like, we're live. If you say something on here, Even if you say, man, take that, I can't, we can't take it out. If you go right now, BP, somebody has already taken clips of what you, I, Joe, and Ocho said,

and already got it up on their stuff. Yeah, yeah. So we can take it out. Now, there's times that you do stuff that's not live, we could like, hey, man, can you do it me a favor? When I say such and such, can you take that out? No problem. But when you go live, it ain't no editing.

It ain't no do it. Yeah, watch what you say type thing. Yes. For real. Hey, and BP, I think the reason why it went viral is because the guys who aren't in you guys locker room, meaning fans, guys like ourselves who don't get to see y'all on the day-to-day basis and the work that y'all put in, the fact that he spoke about Janus is like everybody looking at Janus is like the hardest worker.

You know what I mean? Like, he don't take me for a guy who's going to show up late, who's going to half-ass you, who going to be at you. You know what I mean? Like, you got Doc Rivers in this position, and you mean to tell me Yonis ain't going to show up and give him everything he got. So that's why I think it went viral because it was and how we view him.

You know what I'm saying? I view him as no guy who would be late or panfassion in the wait room or things of that sort. So that's why I was shocking to me. I ain't going to lie. I'm like, damn, hold on. I don't expect that from Yonis. Right. No, man. No, man. No.

It wasn't nothing like that. Yonah's the hardest working motherfucker I've been around. Shit, for real, for real. Nah, for real, shit, that motherfucker is a little before the game. He lived before the game. Anybody said he'd be on the ground doing all type of crunches and sit up shit before the game. I'd say, well, you tripping, boy.

Because I sit right next to him, you know what I'm saying? He been in my locker mate for six years. I sit right next to him. So, like, he's the hardest workers. Sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Doc Rivers. He just, he just a real lenient coach. He's a player's coach. I fuck with Dr. Rivers, like, super on a, on a personal level.

Like, I really love that, man. He, he a good dude, got a good heart. But, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes in film or whatever it is, clear that part, or sometimes in film, if you hurt it, whatever it is, doctor, you go over there and get treatment. Sometimes in practice, if you hurt and you ain't playing, go over there and get treatment, you know what I'm saying,

or whatever it is. Go get your work in. You know what I'm saying? Go get to the weight room. Go get some work in, whatever it is. So, like I said, I was totally thrown off. I thought it was AI, man. You can go to my tweet.

I thought that was AI. I ain't, that was real. Hey, listen, I'm the same way, fellas. It's like, you give me a good players coach and the accountability that I'm going to hold myself to, you know, to show up for him, you know, make sure I'm ready to play. You ain't going to be BSing.

That's how I was when I played, bro. Like, those are some of the best coaches, but everybody can't play for coaches like that. Yeah. I love Doc, man. Dodger on lock my. everybody is not mature enough to be responsible enough to handle it like that. Yeah.

Because my thing is, don't you mess it up for everybody else? Because you know how it is one person messing up. Now, we all got to come. We all got to do this. We all got to do that because what's the thing? We're a team. Nah, he effed up. Make him run.

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We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit season two on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man has also responded to the backlash of him dapping up Spurs players with eight minutes left. Let's take a listen to what that man had to say about this. It was trying to make, you know, a big deal with you dapping them up at the eight minute mark.

Tell us why you did that. I mean, it wasn't no reason why. Like, everybody just, I feel like everybody just got their own opinion. Like, it is eight minutes in the game, but we're not going back in the game. When you win a playoff series, everybody's celebrating at the end of the game. Like, so they're going to be smiling while we, when while I'm pissed off and we just lost. So I was just like, let me go on congratulate these boys because I ain't trying to be kicking with y'all after y'all don't want to be with my eyes. I didn't want to go dab the things up at all.

Like, then what they would have been saying about me. Like, it would have been a whole other conversation. So I gave them the respect they deserved, man. I could have waited to the end of the game. That's what, that's other people perspective. But, yeah, I did what I did. Yeah, it ain't, you know. It ain't no easy way when somebody kicking your ass to accept,

to accept defeat. Ain't no easy way other than to go do it. Now, football is different. Obviously, you know, in basketball, Joe, y'all right there, because a lot of times, hey, we just go home. I mean, a lot of times guys know each other. But like you said, I don't want to be kicky again, bro. Because if I'm smiling, they're going to say, well, I ain't taking it that serious.

Yeah. Yeah. I did what I did. He already accepted the defeat. Bro, we're down 30. With eight minutes to go, ain't no coming back from that. So there's no, there's no easy way for Ant Man to, I guess, they didn't want the situation with Isaiah where he doesn't shake the guy.

hand things of that nature. Hey, that's one of those situations, Uncle Joe. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Yep. Then obviously all the talking heads, all the pundits, all the analysts say, oh, it's a sign of weakness to have your leader, you know, eight minutes before a game,

shaking your opponent's hand and just getting it out the way. But obviously, Anne had his explanation for it and you know how he feel. He don't really care. He's going to continue to do it his way and march to the beat of his own drum. Yeah, I think it ain't, I wouldn't say that he don't care.

I think he has so much respect for the Spurs and how they competed against them and basically how they whoop their ass if you just want me to keep it 100. That, you know, after them series, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a key, key thing after they didn't beat you. Yeah, they're happy, they celebrate and they're moving on. You know, you just want to, as soon as the buzzer in, Ant Man thinking, man, I just want to get my ass up out of here. You know what I mean?

So I'm going to take the initiative. to just go and dab these boys up now. But, yeah, I don't know, man, old school cats, it was never like that, bro. You know, matter of fact, damn old school, you ain't never seen nobody go dab nobody up with seven, eight minutes left on no clock. You know what I mean?

So I can see the drawback that he's getting from it. I can understand that part. But I can see it from his perspective as well. The thing is, if you up like that, you better get your ass out of the game. Stay still being the game. And y'all up 30 points. and see what happened to you.

See what happens. Yeah. Oh, you're still in here, huh? Y'all ain't winning by enough. Okay. Okay. And it's different. Oh, Joe, you know us, I mean, look, I'm coming to the A.

Whoever I know, hey, man, good game, good luck. Hey, stay healthy. Y'all go win this thing. I'm out. Yeah. I'm out. He ain't all that. You don't beat me.

Hold on you don't beat me. Even if you're my friend. You don't beat me. Because it's hard, it's hard in the moment when emotions are high. You know what I mean? Like, damn, bro, we didn't got our ass kicked on our home floor like this. Like, I ain't really got no worries when this buzzer go out, man. Just let me get in that shower, get my ass up out of here and get home.

Yeah. Y'all definitely, that's the best thing for you to do. Because if you play my team and you've been talking, because I'm on the field. Hey, I need to go out there for the kneel down. And I need to go out there for the deal now. Now I need to be out there, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are they talking? Oh, oh, Big Mouth Sharp ain't going to get nothing.

Now, man, shut up, man. Hey, I tell you what me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, ain't no more fighting. You had 59 minutes and 50 seconds to fight. Now you want to fight after the game? Yeah. Nah, nah, I'm going to talk now. Now what you got to say.

See, I'm a rubber dead. I'm that tight. I'm a sore loser. I'll be the first to admit that. But I'm a worst winner. Oh, boy, don't you let's win? Don't you let me win, and you've been talking crazy? Yeah.

Oh, man. Yes, you're going to want to fight me. And I ain't stopping, punk. Oh, I'm asking. Yeah. I'm telling you, don't let me win. Hey, that's why you got cats. I'm the same way.

I mean, as far as the winning part, I ain't like that, but I'm a damn sore loser. That's why I work hard as I don't know what, because I hate losing, bro. Yeah. Joe, if you think about it, if you hate losing, I'm worse at winning. I'm worse at that. Oh, yes.

Because I'm going to talk. I'm going to make it hurt. Yeah. Because you should have been running your mouth. You have so much to say it to start the game. Why are you not talking now? You mad? Oh.

Cats the boys about the Steelers. We beat them in the championship game in three Revers? man, shut up. You ain't finished swing nothing. You finish swinging your ass off this field. Yeah. Look, we need to celebrate. We need the whole field to celebrate

and we need y'all out so we can bring our little, five, you know, 5,000 fans to celebrate with us. Now, get your ass off this field. Man, please. Man. I don't know how, Joe, I'm going to be honest. I'm trying to think. Playoff game, what's the worst?

Oh, we beat, We got to be, oh, man, Lord, have mercy. My last game I ever played, man, Andy beat us so bad. Yeah. Who quarterback was? Peyton. Man, Marvin Harrison probably had like $150. Brandon Stoke.

Go look at the wild card game. Broncos against the coach, 2004. It was like. Dallas Park was there? Huh? Dallas Park was there? Boy, they'd be. beat us so bad.

Peyton might have had a perfect quarterback rating. I mean, Joe, Ocho. Man, when I say they beat the brakes off us, I don't know if I've ever got beat that bad. That's what I knew. That's what I knew. I was like, oh, yeah. Peyton probably had like 380, 350, 380, like four touchdowns.

Because I think Brandon Stokel had two. 277. Oh, he had 377. See? Damn. Five touchdowns. Damn. Marvin Harrison. How many? Marvin had seven for 133 and two touchdowns.

Brandon Stokely might have had more than that. Brandon Stokely had 4-4-44 and two touchdowns. Oh, they cooked them. Hey, but I'm telling you what I did. I knew this going to be my last game. I said, you know what? I might have never get another chance to shake Peyton hand. Yeah.

Dap the buck. I was out. Yeah. Probably had like three. Five for 31. Man, look here. And I ended up having to get him. get two epidur.

Man, my back was so jacked up, Ocho and Joe. Mm. Well, your back would mess up from lifting heavy, huh? No, my back was best up because I'm getting old. That was my back was messed up, bro. Nah, I slept wrong with something. And it just would, it just would not, it spasmed up, and it just would not let go.

Mm. I mean, I don't know if it, anybody ever had back spathom, but it ran into my sciatica. Man. That sciatica ain't nothing to play with. I was driving like this here, Ocho. Getting sideways like that? But I didn't pick up something.

It's back and have to lay on the floor. Man, but I end up having to have two epidurals for that. How you got rid of your cicadas? I got epidura, had two epidurals. I ended up having to go to a doctor and they injected me twice. First time it didn't do because it had gotten so bad and then they come back in there. They put you under that machine pinpoint it. A big needle.

Cyanica. Cicatica. Cicatias are an insect that comes every so often. Sometimes you have a 17-year cicada, but a sciatic is a nerve. The sciatica. No, you said Cicadias. Hey, Joe, you had

a... Nah, no. Cyanhaata. Nah, no, I ain't had Ocho. Nah, no. Yes. But I had a, I got a, I had a homeboy who had it

and it would be times he couldn't even play. Like, you know, he walked in, like he's just a sharp shooting pain down his leg. Yes. Yeah, he said he couldn't, he couldn't even play.

Brian had it? Who had it? Brown missed all that time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Who? Brown missed, Brian made 15 games to start the season with it. Yeah, that's what Brun had to start to see it.

This season, that's what it was? Yes, yeah. Yes. When he was in Miami, he missed those two, three weeks. Yes. Man, that thing I tell you, whoo. Mm-hmm. Have you walking sideways?

Ain't no worse. I wonder what that's from. They got to be a reason. You have an impingement on a nerve. Mm-hmm. And sometimes you can't control body function. You pee on yourself, you poop on yourself. What?

What? Yeah. Absolutely. That must be a severe case. Yes. Yes. Damn. Mm-hmm.

But you know what? What's funny is I have a lot of people who come to my yoga studio who have sciatica. And they come in there to put, you know, put their heat on there. They heat it up, stretch it out. Yeah. You try to do, you try to open it up. Yeah. And that's why you try to keep your core tight.

Yeah. Try to keep that, you know, keep, because everything, your body is like an automobile, and it works in unison. And when everything is working harmonious, everything goes good. But if the rear end, you get a flat tire and you keep driving around on that flat tire, or you put the donut on there. You're only supposed to go X amount of miles on that donut. But you keep going, and now of a sudden it's going to mess up.

Your front end. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, your rear end's going to be messed up. That's how your body function. If everything is not an ankle or a knee or a hip, it's going to throw something out, and the next thing you know, you effed up. Got to take maintenance on their body, bro.

You start overcompensating. Next thing you know, hell, you're going to hurt something else. Hey, Joe, you ain't sent me the little vitamins you told me to take, what? Oh, you're trying to get you some vitamins? I mean, y'all, I mean, listen, I ain't never had no issue with my body or none, but I'm, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna test it out. Well, I mean, if it ain't, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know, you seem to be doing pretty damn good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to beat it to the punt just in case some creep up on me, Joe.

Hey, how I go today? Then you have a, what happened? Hey, Joe, hey, hey, hey, boy, your boy had eight today, boy. You had eight? Yeah, had eight today. I don't know where the hell tea found any goddamn hoopas from? Well, everybody on the goddamn course six, eight. eight six, seven, what?

Hold on. How are you talking about you had eight? You called me and told me you had 18, nine, and three. I said eight, nine, and three. It sounds like 18. Shit, hey, hey, Joe. A, T. T. Higgins must have played,

he must have hooped in high school or something. He could play? Yeah. What? You know, T, about six, five. Yeah. They get money. Man, they get money, boy.

Hey, them dudes, it's dudes that they're from overseas. Yeah. Dude flew from China yesterday, Joe. Young Bull flew from China. Hey, them boy, we're getting the money. We played against, obviously, here in Knoxville, I'm assuming it's like an AAU team

and some of the players, you know, some going to Tennessee. Joe, it wasn't nobody on the court, maybe about three people, shorter than goddamn 666-66-7. 3. And obviously, I'm going on. You ain't turnovers, three rebounds, Joe.

Who? That's the 80 head. Oh, man. Come on. That's fun making up numbers, Joe. I mean, I, where the footage? I ain't seen no footage.

Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell T. I'm gonna tell T. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you the only one making up numbers. I'll make up my own, too. Hey, hey, don't be hating on my law, eh. Hey, hey, send the video.

Because you, you, you hit me early. I hit you back, but you ain't answer. Oh, I would hit you when I was written in front of everybody what they could tell you, boy. I would get to the Manya on, boy. I don't know that sounds suspect, Joe. Hey. Well, I'm waiting for the footage.

I'm waiting for the footage. The last time I was the suspect, but I was in 87? Yeah, we saw you at the big three all-star tournament. We tried that triple zero. Don't bring that up. Oh, Joe, you were there, so you saw it. No, you know, I was hurt.

Oh, that's right. That's right, Joe. My bad. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, I watched it, though. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, don't worry about that.

Yeah. You know what you got coming, huh? What? Hey, today was a nice warm-up, boy. So now I got a, like, like a different perspective on dudes that's that tall. Yeah. Hey, Joe, that shit hard, boy, getting around.

Guess what? I'm going to get your ass, I'm going to get your ass another perspective. Yeah. I'm going to get you another damn perspective. Don't worry about it. Hey, huh. I know I'll be on here talking trash, but it's a different.

ball game when you got somebody in front of you 6-8, 6-6-7? Yeah. Get around that, boy? Man, listen, yeah. Hey, boy, I had a hit a U-turn a few times. I mean, how tall you think Joe is?

Oh, I mean, in front of me, Joe, by 6-1. Okay. Don't worry, don't worry. Don't worry. You're going to refresh your name of Joe. I'm going to make his ass respect me. Hey, hey, you're going to keep my name out your damn

mouth. That's what you're going to do. Hey, everybody will tell you something. The world going to call me the ice. Iso stopper, but when we're done, boy. You hit me? The ISO stopper. The ISO stopper, boy. And please.

Nah, no, Joe, but all jokes aside, it, it, it put the game, just in general, because you know, I don't, I don't play basketball. But be it on that court with them damn trees like that.

I don't really know. It's hiding the hell, Jalen Brunson and all the dudes that are, that, you know, whether you play bother him or not, but if you sick three and under, how the hell you play with these dudes? Hey, you know, them dudes, them guys six, three and under, Ocho, they know how to use their bodies.

You know, hey, when we talk with me, you and Ong talk about football, you know, you, you're a footwork guy. You ain't really trying to let nobody get their hands on you. You ain't trying to let nobody touch you. Oh, no. And in basketball, you, at your size, you're going to have to be a little physical. You got to take some contact to be able to finish over them big guys. It's just part of it. Yeah, yeah, that's me.

That's me. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Hey, I had a good time. I had a good time. That was fun, though. Hey, Knox, hey, you knew Knoxville was small?

Tennessee? Yeah. Small, small, small little town, boy. I mean, it's a college town. Hey, people nice as hell, boy. People real nice, boy. Real nice. Yeah, there's a college.

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The rim ain't number of 10 feet. So you gotta put that big so high about the rim. When he on defense, because that he did talk. You made on the show this time. He did talk. He got to go. That feels like a statue.

It's so hard to beat them when he on the flow just because of his defense. Hey, I was so happy that guy. I was so happy that guy got kicked down. They're saying. Can you get to Mr. He's a lot? I made it.

He looked at Noges. They got to. They never made it mad. When we're mad at fault? He took that person. I hope they suspended. Yeah. Open the email there right?

Hey, man, y'all got to go review buddy. Shott and shout out. See, exactly what you said and if there's any player who are telling it exactly like it is, it's not going to be politically correct, is that

goddamn amp, boy. Yeah. That's why you got to love him. Gotta love him. You got to love it. You got to love his honesty. Because he only reiterated what we all been talking about the whole damn playoffs. Wimby's just too damn much. Just by him

being out there on defense. Look, you ain't, and the fact that they are, the spurs are already got guards. that sit down in the chair and really guard. Okay, let's say you do give them your best one, two, and you get by them. Hell, look what you're running into. That man letting you know.

Look, you got to alter all your damn shots that you normally just, you got to throw that thing way old damn gold now. That's why, look, when we talk about Knows Reed, I said, damn, I seen Knows throw a running damn hook. I ain't never seen that man shit again running. I ain't never seen that man shit on damn running hook. Yeah.

He's nine foot tall. He's eight foot tall, though he's probably about nine and a half feet tall. When he's standing up up on the rim and don't let him jump, you can't see it. You can't even see the rim. You have a couple of floaters and stuff like that, but you're not anticipating because think about it, you go from a regular guy playing defense. Now all of a sudden, his ass back there. Yeah, yeah.

The shot I just shot, the previous time. down the court, I can't shoot that same shot now because you're big ass in here. Right, right. And then Joe, you're talking about his defense. Now imagine him giving you 25, 30, 35, 40. With his defense and giving you 40. Then listen, while I was watching the game yesterday

because, you know, Wimby handled a ball a lot. So, hell, if he out there on the perimeter handling, the other guys are smalls. They're not going to be in the paint. They had five guys around the perimeter. And Wimby was at the top handling that thing Like going into his bag Yeah

That's rare You never see that bro It's always at least one guy Inside the three They had five guys outside of three That's that's what's making That's what makes the spirit so much dames I mean hell we all know

You know Wimby a cheat cold bro But I think they need to start him down lower Joe Because he said I got to make my guys better How can you make the guys better You ain't got nobody that can post up But you? Right

Yeah I mean, that's not Castle's game. That's not Harper's game. That's not Bissell. That's not Champany's game. So in other words, all y'all got, they only really got one guy that can post. That's Winby.

Yeah. I'm not run no damn plays for Luke Connett. No. Cornet, hornet, nothing. No. Yeah. Hey, hey. I think the physicality that Hardinstein is bringing

ever since game one, keeping a body on the beach. being physical with him, you know, Wimby is starting to try to offset by taking him out in the deep waters. You know what I mean? Like, okay, you think you want to play rough inside here, but when I bring your ass

out here in the deep water and drown you, there I want to see what you do. You know, now he's out there playing tween the leg, because Hardinstein can't guard that out there, okay, Ocho. Right. You know, now, the only thing Hartstein can do is hope that he missed. But if he's making them shots, that's what takes his game to a whole other level.

I think the resistance or the physicality that the thumb they're bringing that Hardinstein is bringing it's starting to kind of wear on him a little bit. That's why he's been out there on the perimeter so damn much and he's talking about he got to make his guys better. You're right.

He's going to have to establish position in the mid-posts, low-posts to where they have to double. Right. And so now I can get guys slashing and dive into the basket. Ain't nobody down... Man, you out past a three-board line.

Ain't nobody diving to no damn basket you weigh out there and get them to the ball? You got to be on the block and have somebody when the double team come. Now you get somebody to dive to the basket. Now you got somebody, okay, you get the ball at the nail and now you got somebody in the dunker spot. Yeah, yeah.

But other than that, no, if all five guys at the three point line, Joe, I ain't really worried about it. No, sir. No sir. I need somebody. You need somebody because what, okay Z? Okay, C going to put pressure on that rim. Yeah.

She's going to, hey, Shay is looking to attack edges. He's looking to get on the edge. And if you don't settle, if you don't build a wall, he's going, hey, you better grill it. Because, hey, he's slippery. Oh, yeah. He's going to get on the edge. And he's going to, next thing you know, he's going to throw his body. Like, come on, man, that wasn't a foul.

But damn it looked like a file. Hey, look. You can't tell the difference in real time either, Joe. What's that? I mean, I mean, you know, the foul bait, sometimes, you know, in full time and real time, as fast as those players are playing. I think people watching from home, You really don't understand how fast in boys moving.

When you watch it from home, you know, they slow it down on TV copy, and you can see the file clear as day. But when they're moving fast as hell, it's different. Yeah, and I think Wemby, yeah, he has to establish, you know, somewhere down in the low place or the block area and kind of spray out to these guys so y'all can get second chance opportunity. They don't get no second chance opportunities with him standing his ass out there at the three or playing on the perimeter.

You know, because if he's the biggest guy, he got the best handle, he, you know, going into his bag, once that shot go up, hell, if he don't make it, they don't get no second chance points. You know what I mean? We off to the races. Because think about it, Joe, plus also, when he's so far out, somebody shoot a shot, they got his, they put a body on him. He can't get the ball.

Yeah, yeah. So the further you away from the basket, the hard it is for the rebound. Yeah. And he's going to have to, hey, he's going to have to sit that post up. He's going to have to sit it much closer to the basket, Joe. If I'm okay, see. And guys are going to have to put pressure on the rim. Hey, old.

And the number one thing they need to do, they got to stop turning the damn ball over, Joe. Yeah, that's a number of things. You ain't got no chance. You're not, you're not even coming close to beating them. You dodge the bullet in game one. You're like, because Castle had, what, 9, 10 turnovers in game one, and you won the game. Did you actually think that's a recipe? He had, oh, my bad, he had 11 in game one.

Joe, do you really think that is a recipe to beat the thunder? You got so lucky. Wimby walked in and hit a Steph Curry shot like he did. You remember Steph Curry walked in there and he hit that shot? Yeah, yeah. Going crazy. Yeah. And thogo?

Yes. He hit one of those shots, and it took a lot out of him. But if you think you're going to turn the ball over 18, 20 plus times, it be OKC, you not because they're going to get some easy buckets on your ass. They thrive. They thrive off them turnovers. Hey, Uncle Joe, another thing, too, right? And you're saying when we need to establish down there in the post,

you know, that double, that double won't come fast. That's what I want. Hey, now the onus is on everybody else. Even with that slashing, maybe they don't get that up easy. You're going to have to be able to hit them shots from outside, too. Yes. We've got to be efficient. I think if you okay, see, you don't double him right away.

I wouldn't double him right away. He had to make a couple on me, okay, Ocho, for me to send a double team. Okay, damn, if he'd have made two, three shots, all right, we don't really want him to get him rolling too good. Only catch. As soon as he catch it, let's bring the double. But for the initial, they do a great job, but just physicality, bro, just keeping them off the block. You know, like when BP was on here the other day, we talk about doing your work early. As soon as he come across half court, if he come inside this three-point line, it's resistance the whole time.

So by the time he catch the ball, hell, we didn't took some of his damn legs. He ain't got too much energy and effort to give. Just keeping it 100. You know what I mean? And that's, I think, OKC, that's the game playing. keep a body on his ass at all time. They are. That's why he only had four rebounds.

Now, plus, he don't really chase no rebounds. Because if you think about it, there have been times he had the rebound right there and the guard come take it right out of his hands. He's like, go ahead and get it. I'm like, man, look here, if y'all see me down here, don't y'all come down here and get the ball. I'm for real. That's how Biggs be, though.

Yes. Hey, hey, look, you'll have Biggs tell you, they'll tell you during a time out or a half time out there again. Hey, man, stay your ass and down here. to my rebounds now. You know, hey, them big, don't be playing by their rebound, but you're right.

Wimby ain't got that, like, stinginess to him, that greetingness to him on the defense end of where he want to grab every rebound. That will come, though. That will come. As long as he keeps,

the longer he keeps playing, and he starts to understand, you know, he wants to be an MVP. He's always going to be in the conversation. So, yeah, to be able to average 25 plus points, hell, double figures and rebound. He's going to lead the league in blocks

for the next five, seven damn years. So he'll have a, he'll definitely have an opportunity to be an MVP conversation every year. And I think that would definitely be the difference. I also think the thing is, Joe, the Spurs

second unit is going to have to do a better job of keeping the OKC second unit undercontained. They have to do a better job. They can't let Jay Will get that. They can't let McCain get that. They can't let Caruso do. They cannot. You can't give, Joe, you're

not beating a team if you allow the team's bench to score 76 damn points. You're not beating them. Will they do that again, though? Will the bench be able to come out and have that kind of goddamn efficiency? Man, them boys are calling. The way they play, the way the bench played the other night, Joe and Uncle, they would be starting on other teams. Yeah, but the problem that you have, Ocho, is that they outscored them by 32.

They outscored them by 34. So even if they don't play like that, they're still outscoring them by 30 plus. You give up 30 plus. You let the bitch consistently outscore your team by 30. You're going to lose.

You're going to lose because your starters can't play but so much. And when you go to the bench, you find yourself coming back in, you're down 10, you're down 14. Okay, you cut it back.

You go back to the bench. You find yourself back down to the numbers again. So you're never playing from an advantageous situation. You're always playing catch up. Yeah. And once they weathered that storm,

I gave you everything I had. And, you know, she over there to my, I was a bow daddy. Oh, no. But you'll be winning. When do you expect this to happen? I need a day. I'll see you Wednesday. Yeah, I need a nap first.

I need a nap. I need a nap. I need a nap in my two or three bills in me. Bill back up. I got to recharge this battery. And so when you look at OKC and you look how they come you in waves. McCain doing what he does.

Jay Will doing what he's done. Caruso has been there, done that. He's tried, true, and tested. So I guess the next step for the thunder is who they start at the three since A.J. Mitchell going to be out. He out. You got J.lyn Williams out. So that's two perimeter guys.

You really plug and place. Caruso starting. Yeah. Caruso going to start? Yeah, Caruso and Lou Dort, along with Shea and the two bigs. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'm glad you just said Caruso's name.

Hey, Joe, and I'll give me a better explanation. As great as he is, Caruso is defensively. Hell, he do every goddamn thing. Yeah. With the disadvantage and height, and they still put Caruso on goddamn Wimby. What's the reason for that? It don't matter.

It don't matter how big the dog is. It's how much fight he got in it. Yeah. Caruso got some fight, Ocho. Yes. and you got to look at, look at Wimby is not strong in his lower bodies. So he's at a disadvantage. Caruso is wiery strong.

If you remember last year, they put Caruso on Yokic. And he did a great job of keeping him from getting where he wanted to go. Yeah. Yonkers ain't got that kind of feet. He ain't got that kind of movement. So he's damn now, he's not. Well, listen. I don't want to be disrespectful.

You can't move like Wembe. Listen, the smaller guys always to something. degree has an advantage because he has lower leverage. Right. He's down here. Yeah, he does it. You try to push up top and he's down here. It's hard, bro.

And his feet is quicker than Wimby's. You know what I mean? So he can slide his feet, stay in front of him, keep him in front. And Wimby, yeah, he'll take a tough shot and make a tough shot over him. But you're going to live with that, bro. Live with it. Yeah, versus him being out there winding Hardinstein up, driving by Hardinstein. And once he take off on that launch pad, what are we going to do with that?

We can't do nothing with that. Nothing. And as long as women hasn't figured out consistent Once I get the ball up here I don't need to bring it down here to Caruso's sweet spot I gotta just, hey, I'm gonna keep it up here

and turn and shoot over the top of you Because every time he bring it down Caruso gonna get it Yeah, yeah All he got, he still, obviously at 22 years old man Y'all know he still got some maturity and polishing him. Got so much to learn

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and he will be, he will be great over the next 10 to 15, 20 years however long he, get a chance to play, you know, this is a learning curve for him, bro. But I know they want to win in this learning process. But I just feel like with the experience that the Thunder have, understanding what they have to do now, you know,

as far as the type of physicality that they have to bring to the game, there will be somebody else who will step up for the Thunder, I think, for them to win this game for. I think the thing is you got to, you got to try. I think if you go back and look, they did a great job. for like the first half on Shea, and then he got going.

Yeah, yeah. And when he got going, now, like, damn, what do we do? If we send a double, guys are knocking down shot. Jay Will and knocking down shot. McCain is knocking down shot. Caruso is knocking down shots. Wallace is knocking down shots. So, damn, man.

I mean, so what do I do, Joe? If I go one-on-one, I know Shay going to cook me. If I help with Shay, eyes are knocking down shots. It's like, okay, we brought the double. It's like the Lakers. Lakers say, you know what? We're going to make sure they give it up.

Okay, he gave it up. But a J. Mitchell couldn't miss. Right, right. Caruso couldn't miss. So now, I mean, you, hey, look, you got, but the Spurs got defenders. It ain't like they've been playing bad defense. I think they've been playing them pretty damn good.

I just think when you're a great player, you're going to take and make tough shots. Absolutely. And that's what Shea has been doing. He's been taking a lot of 17, 18, 19 foot jump shots right inside the three. Analytically, they would say them are bad damn shots. But look, those shots are shots that he would be able to get every game, bro. He just has to make them.

But the problem is, Joe, that's a bad shot for most people. That is a sweet spot shot for him. Yeah, yeah. You're just like, ah, no, no, hey, this is where I want him. No, this is where he want to be. Yeah. Yeah. Listen.

Bro, I've been there, man. I'm talking about in the postseason to where it's so much attention on you. If you get inside the damn paint, they're sending in a double so damn quick that you can't even turn your head fast enough to get off the ball. So you have to work on these long tools, long threes. And this is why you get guys like Dame Lillen and Steph Curry. They extended their range two, three, four steps beyond the three-point. So you have to respect him out there. Now, if you come out here and guard me,

I got all this real estate to come down here and be able to work with. And I think for Shea, his three-point game ain't like that. Yeah, he'll make a three, but his two-point game is so immaculate that he's able to get to his spots, pull up, and then he put him in there huckle buck-a-o-o-o-do where

you started to go for these pump fakes. Okay, boom, I got you. Now, let me get to the line, give me a couple free throws, get a nice little rhythm. I'd have made two, three free throws in a row, four free throws. now this jump shot that opened up,

now y'all at my mercy. You know what I mean? So now I've done my job. Now if y'all started to bring the double team, okay, boom. Now you got check wide open for three. Now you got the Wallace and the Caruso's and Jaydubs. You know what I mean?

Now the floor is opened up. So I think Shay understands that part. Joe, God ain't fin to give Shade ability to shoot the three like goddamn on stuff and Jay. What the hell? Six, seven, and be able... The way they could,

because you got to understand, they, two or three times through the leg and pull up in your face. That ain't really Shays game. Shay's looking to sidestep. And they all, both Dame and, and Steph can side step.

But the ability to have a ball and shoot it like that from out there, man, he'll win like, he'll win eight MVPs in a row. But you can't let that man be able to, because just think about it. If you gave Dame, if you gave Dame Lillard,

with his ability to shoot the ball if you gave him Shays height. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. If you gave Steph Curry, his ability to shoot the ball, you gave him Shade height.

I can't. She God ain't going to give you anything. The hell? No. I mean, so you won't, you won't, Shack with his size

and his dominance to be able to shoot 90% from the three, I mean, from the free throw line, and to be able to shoot a three-point shot. Let's just say a 15-foot shot. That's not feel. Shack to average 50.

Easy. I can't give you, I can't give him everything. I got to take something. It's like AI. Just imagine if AI was 6-8. Can handle the ball like he's handling, cat quick like he was. And play a ball.

God had to make him six foot a buck 65. That ain't fair? Yeah. Yeah. I got, look, he got to take something. Yeah. But the thing is that, you know, I've got to be able to live with something. I got to be able to live with something.

So if I shut his water off, I got to be living. I got to be able to live with holes popping up elsewhere. Too good of a team. I got a leak somewhere. But I know Shay is the main. She is the main sorts. I want to neutralize that as much as I possibly. can because if I don't neutralize that

I ain't got no chance. I don't have no chance to beat. I think even though Shea is great, obviously two-time MVP, one-time champ, they're just too good of a damn team. As good as he is, I mean, you look at the guys who, they've been having a different guy pretty much every game

outside of him to step up and really help win games since game one. Like, they have a plet of guys so they can throw at you. And everybody, I mean, from top to bottom, bro. They know they rolled.

Do y'all know how many games that went by to where the big J. Dub hadn't played? And you mean to tell me you throw his ass in there like this, game three, hostile environment, and that man give you 18 points for what, what, five or six from three? Come on, man.

And that's the thing, Joe. He came in out the rift. As soon as he came in, they left him open, he hit a shot. I'm like, well, damn. And I know they said, hey, let's see if he can make a couple of doors. Well, he makes a couple of those. He's going to get in the rhythm and now you got hell on your hands. And then guess what?

Jerry McCain come in. He's knocking it down. Wallace knocking it down. I think Caruso started three for three from the three. Yeah. Caruso has been basically their second best player. Yeah. Because he's been their second most good.

Shea's been the guy, but Caruso's been right there. Yeah, yeah. Because I say, Joe, ain't no way he's going to keep stay this hot. He stayed that hot from the three point. Like, what's Caruso shooting from the three? He's probably shooting 60 plus damn percent. He probably, yeah. Yeah, he's been hot.

He's been hot. He's been hot. I'm looking for... That's ghost pepper hot. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking for Chek Homer to step up, though, in game four. You know, I'm looking for him to be a little more assertive, you know, put his stamp on this series because he's an all-star. He's a hell of a player.

And, hell, we're acting like, check ain't 7-1, 7-2, hell. Well, he damn sure don't want to deal with that 7-5, because they got Caruso, they got everybody else dealing with it. and you first team all-N-B-A. Ocho, how'd that look? Hey. You're a defensive player. You're a defensive player to your candidate. You're all-N-A-A, I mean, you're an NFL defensive player,

and all of a sudden, nah, I ain't going to deal with Ocho. Hey, you go get in the hell now. You get it. Yeah, yeah. Caruso's shooting better from the three than he is from the two. Hey, look, for the Thunder, though, Ocho. Yeah. You don't want, you don't want check guarding him right off.

dump. I won't Hardenstein guarding him off dump just so he can lean on him and wear him down a little bit. Then, you know, in the second half you'll start to see check on him a little more after, you know, you didn't kind of took some of his legs. I think that's the strategy that OKC is going with, and obviously, hell, since game one, you know, it's been pretty

effective if you ask me. Yeah. But, uh, I mean, Caruso is shooting 61% from the three. Hmm. Hey, man, that's scorching, bro. And a championship. I mean, think about it. I mean, the guy might have a game or two,

but that's the regular season. He's shooting 61% from the three in a conference finals. Listen, they have a bunch of unselfish guys. Yeah. They have a bunch of guys who understand how to get the spots on the floor, meaning get inside their paint. We always talk about guys in basketball. Like, you got guards who always,

can find a way in maneuver and finagle the defense to where they can always get inside the teeth of the defense, man, you're going to be pretty damn good because if you don't score, you're always going to be able to create opportunities because the defense is always going to collapse and you'll be able to kick out for wide-open threes and Caruso and Wallace and those guys.

They've been recipients of a lot of them great passes, bro. All they got to continue to do is keep making shots here. The Lakers reportedly have a new assistant general manager who is literally, I mean, he's literally a rocket scientist. As head of the important off-season, as they head into the important off-season, Lakers hired New Orleans Pelicans, Vice President of Strategy and Operations, Rohan Ramadas, to be the assistant GM. Ramadas will be under team president Rob Polinka in his new role.

Ahead of the 24th season, the Pelicans announced they elevated Ramadas to senior director of analytics and innovation. after he spent seven years as an analytics consultant for the team. He was also the draft analyst for the Miami Heat during the 2016-17 campaign, according to the Pelican's announcement, spent the past 12 years supporting aerospace corporations, U.S. Space Force, and NASA as a rocket, guidance, navigation, control, and missions design engineer. One Pelicans, the source told Dave McMinneman and Shams,

he's literally a rocket scientist and he used AI and coded models to help the New Orleans front office helping what are they trying to put somebody in space what does they have to do what does they have to do of winning

and playing basketball well hey maybe they're trying to put maybe they're trying to go up in space Joe what is this man I have no clue Joe that's your fault How does my fall in Joe?

I don't know, Joe. I got a head. I need somebody to blame, so I'm going to just blame you. We try to win games over here. They're bringing in someone. I'm saying, he must have done a good job for New Orleans bringing them players or something. Why did the Lakers hire him? Do you see the players in that?

That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. I'm like, damn, what do he do for me to be like, I'm happy for the Lakers? I don't know. I guess he's smart. I mean, if they're just. try to, look, if they try to put people in space, that's the guy I would call.

But as a basketball, what is your eyes tell? That's what I'm saying, bro. What does your eyes tell you? How does he fit what you're trying to do? Hey, normally, when they make changes like this, you know, they bring in assistant GM help and all this. I mean, it's from something, say, hey, it's going to be some furniture moving. It's going to be, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And they base everything on analytics. Look here, I'm going to say, hey, Sam Preston. I'm stealing somebody for, you know what? I'm stealing somebody from OKC. I'm stealing somebody from San Antonio. Because they seem to get it right.

Yeah. Hey, at least copy what they do. Copy what they do. What is it? Hell. Hey, Joe, you know, you look at the NFL, right? Every owner should be trying to. to copy

Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie in the way they operate. Everybody. But when they go get coaches, where they go get them coaches from?

The Kyle Shanahan tree, the Mike Shanahan tree from Sean McVeigh. They get them from a Matler Floor. They get them from Andy Reed.

Why? Because those guys have success. Hold on. Will the Pelicans last in the playoffs? When were the Pelicans last in the

final? That's what I'm saying. I'm saying. I can't do. It must have been his partner or something, man. I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no look. I think the thing is sometimes, like, when you run a business, you own a business,

and, you know, you get people that you're comfortable with. People lie now, Ocho, Joe, the way people lie on their resume now with this damn AI. They chat GPT? Oh, my goodness. Joe, Ocho. Well, you know they're going to do a background check. It's hard to lie on the resume. it's not because that's your resume. How are they going to do a background

check? You might have graduated, but you ain't do none of the stuff that you said. Yeah. Well, you know, Uncle, you got to put it down on the reference, huh? Ocho. Yes. I'll ask you a question. If somebody called and said, man, Ocho, Ocho said he was with clubs. He was with nightcare

for 10 years. Man, Ocho was great. Man, you might have been a jerk. Man, Ocho was unbelievable. Always on time. He ain't never late. The one thing Ocho will do. He's going to work hard now. He's going to get everything that he got. He's entertaining, see? Yeah.

Yeah. See, I did that, though? Hey, when I leave, I ain't going to say nothing bad about you. You don't say nothing bad about me. We're going to be moving. Right. I'm just trying to figure out

what does a rocket scientist have to do with basketball? Man, listen, when you look over there on them benches, it's more assistant coaches and damn analytical people sitting over there than it's ever been, ever,

in the history of the game. It's damn them. It's more coaches damn there than players now. I'm talking about, look at the first two roles by the head coaching right behind them. Yes. Bro, it's so many coaches now and day. You're right, Joe.

You're right. You're absolutely right. Well, look, I don't know what he has to do, but the Lakers have done a terrible job of drafting players. So, hell, I guess you try anything. Think about it. The best player they've gotten in the last probably decade, is an undrafted free agent.

Austin Reeves. Yeah. Let that sink in for just a second. Just for a second, chat. Let that sink in. The best player that they didn't draft him is Austin Reeves. No question. No question.

Damn, Lakers. Well, you know what? You got to think positive. Think positive. I'm thinking about where LeBron going. He may just end up staying L.A., bro. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Because I'm going to have to move my Laker jersey.

I have to have to move my Laker jersees around. You know, he ain't going to, they can't be. He ain't going to tell nobody when he's going to bust no mood. You're just going to have to see him busting it. Hey, you're going to find out like everybody going to find it the same time. Yeah. That's one thing. Oh, my goodness.

Lakers, what have you done? James Hardin was asked after the game on if the Knicks are better than the calves. It was 4-0, but I don't think we had a chance as far as our best shot. Genuinely, I do feel like we are a better team. Series-wise, we didn't show it. Wait, he said, wait, they lost 4-0. They got swept, but they still feel like they were the better team series-wise, even though you lost said series.

He sounded like his damn head coach. What are they analytical? Oh, man, come on. So the analytics said you were better, but you still got swept. And bad. So analytics is messing up basketball,

damn, you know. Analytics is messing up sports because it doesn't take it, it doesn't take into consideration momentum. Momentum. All it does is you punch it in numbers. But what about the momentum of the game?

What coaches used to coach on gut? Now, the analytics say we should go for it. Analytics say we should punt it. Analytics say we should shoot more threes than two. What? If they had lost one game, you know what, Joe? Ocho, if the series was that first game,

maybe I would probably believe James Hardin. I'd say, you know what, they were. Had a little slip up, things happen. Right. But when you get beat like this, every game, after game won, how can you even fix your mouth to say that you think that you think you can't lose by 37 points

ain't no way you can lose by 37 points and think you're a better team ain't no way you can lose in the manner in which they lost the other day and think you a better team there's no way in hell that you think you can get blown out and game none of the games were even close

Joe after the game one they ended up losing game one by double-d-game one so it was too demoralizing, man. I'm telling you, it knocked them. Listen, it rattled them, and they never were the same, bro. Like, they hadn't been close to nothing of the damn games ever since.

Sometimes you just got to be honest, nah. We just ain't that damn good. We ain't got enough. I like to think we're better, but at the end of the day, you are what your record says. Our record says 0 in the Eastern Conference Finals. that's what we are.

Yeah. And if there's very rare, there's a very, very rare occasion in which a team will lose, win a series and not be the better team. Oh, Joe, how can I, Joe, how can I be lucky four times? I'm not going to hit no three, two game winning shots. So even if I hit those game winning shots, what happened to other two games? I beat you. This game wasn't, I can see if they were, you know, nip and tug,

the game here or there. What 37-point shot you got? If they say, okay, you guys hit five shots in a row from half court, you guys win game four. James Hardin now has played a 191 playoff game without a championship, which is two behind Carl Malone for the most in NBA history. Those two players are tied for the most playoff wins, 98 without a title.

Mike Brown is back in the NBA finals for the first time since 2007. The 19-year gap is the longest by a coach in league history. His 11-game playoff win streak is also the longest by head coach in his first season with a new team. Shout out Mike Brown, bro. Yeah, man. Perfect, perfect situation. Yep.

Yep. Hey, hey, he inherited a team that they just came off with them Eastern Conference. Yeah. Finals lost. And for him to be able to get them back there, and get him to the finals. Mike Brown, he's going to be, he's going to be stamped in New York, too.

Oh, yeah, Lord. Absolutely. And I think the thing is, the thing is that what he didn't do, that Tills did, he rolled him into the ground. He grinds them down to the nub. They got the guys playing 40 and 42 minutes

in the regular season, and then when they get to the postseason, they out of game. And I think Mike Brown understood it, space and pace, you know, using Kat to be the passer to initiate the

offense and letting Brunson be more of like an AI guy. You know, I think he got it right with this one. They got a good thing going. What's up? You don't know what? What's you saying? What's wrong? What's going on? The calves in that performance did they put

on? That was bad. Yeah, we can't. Hey. Now we just, now we... They should have just let the... What you call? They should have let, uh, uh, uh, uh, Detroit. I think Detroit the game a better series than that.

The problem, the problem with Detroit, we know defensively they would have been there. It's just they ain't got enough damn five power neither. The score. Keep up with the Knicks. But I think,

I personally think it probably, it would have been a better series just due to the defense that they can, you know, at the level they can defend. They ain't from going to get walked over. They're not going to quit. Nope.

Joe Missoula was named 2025, 2026 coach of the year. Wow. Zula led to Celtics to a 56 and 26 record in what most people considered an impossible situation keeping the franchise afloat, considering Jason Tatum spent the majority of the season recovering from an Achilles injury. Joe Missoula beat out J.B. Bickr's staff

from the Pistons and Miss Johnson from the Spurs. Joe, Ocho, did they get it right? Yeah, I would say so. Considering that, you know, you got your best player, one of your best players down and Jason Tatum, a guy who obviously you play through. He controls a lot of what you do

and to be able to adjust that and put a lot of that on Jalen Brown's back. Man, I thought it was great. They was plug and play. They had a lot of guys play above and beyond themselves throughout this whole entire season. Obviously, they just came shorter the goals.

Oh, Joe, did get it right? Absolutely. I think they did get it right, especially based on the circumstances where Jason Tatum going down in the previous season, going to the season, no one really gave the Boston selves a good chance. They never gave them a chance at all. And what Jalen Brown was able to do for them keeping their head above water, steering that goddamn ship, and being second, you know, coming out to east, you know, you got to give it to the coach. Even though I think it's more so the players as opposed to it being the coach itself, he still gets rewarded for what the players did on the court. I agree. I think if you take, I don't know, you could say

Castle the second best player from San Antonio, you take whoever the second best player is. During the regular season, I guess it was Jalen Duren. I mean, clearly he wasn't the second best player in the postseason. And to get a 56 and 26 record? Yeah. No. Because he's not just,

Jason Tatum was a, three time or three or four time first team all-N-Bee selection. He's been on two Olympic teams. He was a Larry Bird Eastern Conference final player of the MVP. So he's just not a guy. And you're taking

30 points, six, seven rebounds, five, six assists. You're taking that away. And somehow you still manage to go 56 and 26. Yeah. I definitely think they got. and that's not to take away from those other guys

because I think J.B. Bakerstaff getting that team to the number one seed is a huge accomplishment. I think Ms. Johnson getting dispersed, the 62 wins, I think that's a huge accomplishment. But for the most part, they had all their pieces. Yeah. And for you to lose that piece and considering what they let go because remember Joe, this was supposed, hey,

a, Pregina's gone, Al Hortford gone. Holiday. All these guys are gone. Holiday gone. Yeah. And somehow you still able to do this, yeah, they definitely got it right. Yeah. I don't know how close it was, but it probably shouldn't have been that close.

Yeah. And look, and J.B., Jalen Brown was great all season. But those other guys around him, they played great throughout the season, bro. They had different guys step up in different times. And I thought it helped keep them at the top of the east. You did. Joe Missoula, 2025. Coach of the year.

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