Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 1: Browns START Sheduer Sanders, Ja'Marr Chase suspended

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the BEST of the NFL week! Unc and Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders earning his first NFL start and the massive pressure on the Browns rookie, Justin Fields benched for Tyrod Taylor and more! 0:00 - Shedeur Sanders Browns starter this week29:45 - Ja'Marr Chase suspended 1 game42:37 - Jets bench Justin Fields (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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rejoined the NFL. This goes back to 1999. Let that sink in. A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland, going back to 1999. So basically, that's 27 years. That's crazy work. Look at these names.

From Tim Couch to Spurgeon Win, Tom Brady still mad about that Spurgeon win. Luke McCown, Charlie Fry, Derek, Anderson, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Wheaton, Fad Lewis, Johnny Manzair, Carnal, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, and Dylan Gabriel. Hey, that, that's crazy, Ocho. Hey, I think, hey, maybe they just have bad luck in general.

Maybe it's just organizational bad luck. Because to not have had a quarterback, to have, I mean, they've had some success, but it was short-lived. would short live that they're still in search of one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's why they were so, so eager to do what they did with Deshaun Watson because look with what they had to deal with for so long, huh? This is what they had to deal with for so long. That's why they, they were willing to throw whatever it was at Deshaun Watson because

you understood the success that he had before, you know, those issues arose. And even after there rose, we still go play them because we know we're getting. You see the problem in Dojo? And Ocho, look at the years. 99, they had a, they had a starter. 2000, they had a different starter. 04, a different starter. 05, a different starter.

06, a different starter. 08, a difference. You see a real current theme, Ocho? Yeah, man. Joe, you see the real current theme? Yeah. No continuity. You ain't just fitting to keep trying quarterbacks out there year after year

and think you going to win? Look at that. Think about it. 12, different quarterback. 14, different quarterback, 14, different quarterback. I mean, somebody's in the same season. 16, Cody Kessler, 17, DeShon Kaiser, 17, Kevin Hogan, 18, Baker Mayfield. Hey, also, not, and you know what else, too, Joe and Unk?

Not only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays, having to continuously learn something new or learn a new system and not getting, like Unc said, any continuity, you know, as an offense, this is what happens. This is what happens. There's always something new. So no one's ever to get acclimated and comfortable to one thing. And this is what it will always look like. Turmoil.

Hey, I agree. You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man. You can't cheat that. You know what I mean? If you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or a different OC, a different head coach, I mean. Different system. Yeah, it's a different system. So it's hard to catch rhythm and time.

you know, that stuff takes a while, but I can see why there ain't, why I ain't no quarterback won. No, one, no game one. That's crazy. Yeah, well, I know one thing. Shadour, he gets his chance to start. This is the opportunity he's been waiting on.

You know, there's no, there's no more excuses. And he couldn't pick the better team to start again. Oh, yeah, yeah, listen, you have a chance to make history. You have a chance to make history and change the narrative, you know? And if things go well, you talk, it's going to be good. If things don't go well, we're going to let it be known. We're going to be, especially me. I've gotten really good at this Uncle Joe.

I've gotten really good at being critical when people, when people aren't playing well. Yeah, we have, you got to, we got to talk about what we see. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sugar-coating shit. But if you go out there, if you go out there and shit it up, you know, all excuses are out the window. You had a week to prepare. You had a week to get acclimated with the offense.

And you got, and you're playing against the Raiders. Damn, that's, that's great. Just block 98. If y'all make a mistake, block 98. Matter of fact, you can double and cheat. You can scheme him all game. You can scheme a way to stop 98 all game. Chipping, doubling, do whatever you need to do.

The gift should do a time to be able to do what he does best. Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses. Because, boy, they threw him in against the Ravens. Them boy, fighting for their lives over there. Well, I think the thing is, plus he gets. an opportunity. I think the biggest thing, Joe and Ocho, he gets an opportunity to work with those guys. So he'll understand how they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know,

the tempo and the speed in which they run their routes. Because that's something that you can't, you need to be in there to see. Because one guy, he might, takes a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho was a guy that got his head around real quick. Yes. So you know, hey, I could put this ball out of before he come out of his break. I know it soon. Ocho's snapping his head around. Other guy, he's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your damn head if you don't get your head around now. You got to get any of those breaks. And I thought he threw the ball with some time. Yeah, he missed some throws. There's a couple of shallow crosses that he probably should have took. But he's a guy that wants to push the ball down the field. Yeah. Their problem was

they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down the field. It's hard for you to methodically, three yards here, two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard. It's hard to methodically go down the field and win games without at some point in time I'm taking a chance to put the ball down the field. It's just hard to just do that every single down in and down out. They've got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall behind and take the running game completely away. But as long as they can keep the game, I'm able to run some.

I can play action off of that, Ocho. Give him some stuff where I get down flat. Hey, I get a flat route. I get an overrout. I get a comeback. You know, give him stuff like that, stuff that's going to allow him to get the ball out of his hands real quick at times. and there are other times

that you're going to have to call plays specifically so he can push the ball down the field. Right. And I think they'll have some success. Look, what's it called? You might have another four or five-sacred game. Miles Crott. Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett. That offensive line, did you see the office line? You see what the Cowboys do? The Cowboys ain't got two players combined as good as Miles Garrett, let alone one. Yeah, you're right. And he ate. So, I mean, Quentin Williams had a sack of the half.

Or Diggi Zua had two, I mean, everybody was getting it on the action. Yeah, Kenny Clark had no. So I can just imagine. Hey, you know what? And if you think about it on, as good as the defense is, this just might be the game. It just might be the game with that,

with that, that, uh, O and 17 losing streak for quarterback starting. And their first time, it might be snap. There's a good chance if he protects the ball and knowing the defense, the defense will get the ball back for him many of times on Sunday. It's a good chance. Hey, hey, I'm just saying.

The defense should create some great field position for it. Yes. Because Gino is prime. Gino lately, I mean, Gino's really high up on turning the ball over. Now, I don't know if he's leading the league in his session, but he's damn close. Put it like this.

I don't know if he's leading to Rule Mocho, but he at the table where the guy that's leading an interception, Gino at the table having a conversation with him. You know, I'm right behind you. I'm probably going to tie you up this week, so don't get too comfortable helping that lead. Yeah. Shador just needs to be Shador. Like I said, get the ball out of your hands and don't take, listen, Shadour, I understand, like, you know, you're looking to make the big play. But it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds.

you're not going to outrun. You weren't blessed with your dad's speed. He weren't. So that belly and back, you're not going to outrun these D-Ens. You're not. You're not. All you're going to do,

if you're in a field-goer-range, you're going to take your team out of field-go-range. Make it manageable. Let it, if you take a sack on second down, now you put yourself further behind the sticks on third downs. They need to stay in front of the sticks. And that's the thing that you want, like, young quarterbacks. Joe, you want them to stay in front of the sticks.

You want it second and five, second and six. You wanted third and one to three. Third at the bare maximum, third and five. You start getting third eight to ten, twelve, thirteen. You're asking for trouble. Yeah. You're asking for trouble. I believe in it, man.

I think he's going to do pretty well this weekend, considering, you know, with him having a week with the ones, right? The number ones, he hadn't done that all year. And I think he just, he's just a young, confident, dude, bro. I feel like he, he knows this is his moment, and I feel like he's going to step up and shine. Yeah.

Yeah. He waited a long time, what, 12 weeks to get his opportunity? It didn't seem like it was going to come. Yeah. But, you know, hey, now the opportunity is here. Yeah. My brother said, hey, man, I ain't getting no run. Man, they ain't give, hey, John Elway,

we're going to call your number now. Yeah. Just make sure when he called your number, you pick the phone up. You ready. you ready you go okay it took him 12 weeks for him to call his line call his number sure sure answer the phone yeah answer the phone that's going to be a good one uh shoulder spoke about getting first team reps i'm truly excited for that knowing that i have a piece of the office to say so and how things fit my eye in place and the players exactly where

they need to be seeing how that come in and out of route seeing the structure of the old linemen seeing their set just having a feeling I'm more of a feel type of a person so that's how I learned that's how I do everything I'm not just a I'm a watch it it's just going to happen no I got to be out there feel it I got to move around I like so many details that it takes for me to feel my best and play my best I'm doing everything in my power and this team's doing everything in their power to help me get prepared yeah Ocho yeah what's what you think is that what you think is stats going to be you know what i i i don't want to say i don't want to jinx it i don't want to jinx it i just know what to jinx it yeah i don't want to jinx it i just know that sophansky understands

what shadore's strengths are going to be he's going to he's going to understand what shouldaure does well so the game plan going to that game is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's able to do well for one that's getting the ball down the goddamn field having a healthy balance of being able to run the ball so play action works as well when they do want to throw and make sure they do they cannot under any circumstances

be one dimensional they can't be one dimensional so a healthy balance of the run a healthy balance of the past and once that young bull get in the rhythm and get any kind of confidence Joe man I think I think that comes with the prep

you know throughout the week you know especially with the ones getting that under your belt that's going to create a lot of confidence for the young boy man you know going into the game And I think that's going to help him walking, Ocho. Yeah, and the play goal, the play call is going to look completely different.

Because you've got a quarterback that can do something different. Yeah, for sure. Couldn't look completely different. Yeah. Ocho, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start? Ocho, what do you remember about your first start? San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers in, in San Diego, obviously, when they had the baseball field.

Rodney Harris. Yeah, yeah, Rodney Harrison. Junior Seowl, Ryan McNeil, who went to the, went to the UM, played defensive back. Yeah, went to the U. Yep. I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeil in the corner of the end zone, and the scar is still there because I landed on the, on, I don't know if it was third base or a home plate and skinned up. The infield. Yeah, infield and skinned up my whole, my whole arm is still there.

It's still there. That's how deep, that's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was dope. That was my first start. Joe, you remember your first start? Yeah, my first start was, obviously, it was my rookie year. It was second game of the season, Uncle Ocho. I was playing behind Eric Williams,

who was a small floor for the Boston Celtics at the time. Yeah. Well, he injured his knee in the first game. So second game of the season, coach was like, we're going to start you at the two. It was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Big Dog. Oh, man, I came out there ahead of time.

You hear me, I put about 23. Okay. Yeah, a young rookie. I won by a little 20 years old out there, man, out there getting to it. You hear me? You drop a little 20 for a little easy 20 piece on them. Hey, look, see, all you need, especially when you're young like that, is to see those type of performances just to let you know, okay.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I belong right here. I can do this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And next thing you know, boy, you be putting on a show. For real. I like it.

Man, I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put me in. They need to put me in. I'll be saying, oh, Joe, man, he didn't put me in. I can make some plays. I can make some plays. Yeah. Lo and behold. They put you in there.

We get ready to play the Chiefs. We get ready to play the Chiefs. Hey, the Chiefs got Albert Lewis. They got Kevin Ross. They got De Ron Cherry. They got Martin Baylis. They got Neil Smith, Derek Thomas. Ooh.

Yeah. Oh, oh, damn. Big Joe Phillips. Oh, man, they got Percy Snow. Yeah. I say, Dan Salamua, Ocho. Yeah. I say, put me in, not against them.

Let me get somebody that ain't them. They got the number one, they got like the number one, number two defense in all the football. So I'm like, yeah, we're going to put you, we're going to start you and we're going to put you in. I said, oh, okay. I said, so, you know, I'm like, so what I'm going to do? So they're like, hey, we want you to line up outside.

Yeah. And we get into like five inside to five of the inside, we're going to throw you a fade. I'm like, Alabama Lewis went to the Pro Bowl. Kevin Ross went to the Pro Bowl. So you mean to tell me y'all going to put a rookie hand and say, go run a fade on one of them? Yeah. Yeah, we just jump up over the top of him. Y'all say that like, that's easy.

Yeah. Hold on, what happened? I didn't know no better. I was like, oh, Joe, so I, hey, I told my brother, but your boy are going to get the game, they got to play for you, boy. What's called? Hey, they say, jump ball.

Oh, Joe, I'm geek, jump ball, you know what I'm saying, oh, Joe? Yeah. Okay, Joe, I get out there, they call it rock, because he's, he has to use compact, but he was strong. He got his hands on you. You call him getting off him. Yeah.

But anyway, they didn't expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah. Because they thought it was going to be physical. And so this story jump ball. Joe, how about I beat him off the ball clean? I said, okay, he's going to lay it on the top. I'm a kid that day. Ah, got him.

Yeah. He back shoulder, oh, Joe. Oh, man. So I really had to jump up over the top of him to get it. Did you get it? I got it. Oh, you caught it. I got it.

I caught it, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I walk into the, Ocho, Joe, I walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help me catch this ball, you ain't got to let me catch no more my whole career. I don't make problems. Hey, hey, listen, hey. Hey, because ain't nothing like you.

Man, I caught it, I caught it, I caught it, Ocho. Yeah. And from that, that gave me the confidence because I beat a pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So that gave me the confidence that I belonged. Yeah. And I'm like, and I remember getting back, and I remember going to the side, because everybody, everybody came and like, man,

make a good job, good day, that's where they make a play. And seven, John told me, see, that's like you. Yeah. You can do that. Mm-hmm. I said, I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I can do that.

Yeah, that's me. Wow. I don't know why y'all surprised. I was cool. I was great. Guess what I'm saying, too, though. I try to play a coup. Hey, I was so good

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It's going to happen quick. Oh, yeah. Ocho, I run down, I run a goal ball against COVID, too. Yeah. Man, I'm talking about, like, soon as the ball hit my hands. You got caught me in the back. Oh. I held on to it, though.

Okay. I held on to it, though, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay. I got to head the ball and threw a, yeah. That was, that was like, man, I really, I really, and come to find out, I go back and listen to the, uh, the TV version of it. Yeah.

And they, and, uh, the, uh, the announcer said, Coach Reeves is really high on this kid. Think this kid has a lot of potential. Yeah. Mm. Say, he didn't tell me that. Oh, I got potential. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Okay. A, one, a, a, one thing about, a, hey, Joe, I mean, Joe and those in the chat that have played sports, one thing about it when you're not sure yourself you know and even if you are confident and you go out there and you perform well and whatever it is that you do whatever whatever your respective craft may be and you you make a play or you do something good and then you do it again and you start to build that confidence once you got confidence it's a rap it's a rap in that point on and you just stack them one on top of another and at some point it just becomes it becomes natural it becomes consistent Oh, yeah.

Hey, look, as a rookie, man, you play so hard, bro. I'm talking about it so hard, because, listen, I just remember being out there on the court thinking, like, man, I'm out here with playing against Michael Jordan, Tracea McGrady, Vince Carter. I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce. Like, I remember being in so much of all that I was like, I'm telling y'all, bro, I couldn't really sleep as a rookie.

Like, I used to be so geek for the moment. Like, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. you just want to play hard as crap because I never wanted Coach to have a reason to take me out the game. I don't care what it was. I was out there playing hard as I don't know

or trying to get as many deflections as I can, hands everywhere. I ain't lying. That's funny. Hey, it's just like when you see, man, I remember the first time we played in Denver with a preseason game. We played the 49ers. Joe Montana, Steve Young,

Jay Rice, oh, they're upro. Roger Craig, John, All of them just, I'm like, damn, I'm really on the field. I'm really in the NFL, that's damn. I'm looking at Jerry like, that's Joe Montana. Yeah. You know, that Ron and Lott.

Yeah. I'm like, I caught a touchdown in the preseason, Ocho, and then hit the ham on them. You were, hold on. You were dancing in the preseason? And the Boy, look at here I'm from an HBCU

I just called a touchdown on the defendant Super Bowl chair I was, hey, I was flowing crazy Yeah Man I was And it was televised

It was a Monday night game It was televised, Oh, Joe Yeah They saw me Everybody in Savannah State They know they watch My hometown,

Glenville, they watch it I already know Man, I told y'all At no sharp Man, I told y'all Sharp, like that.

Man, I bet I was so happy. I got my cell phone bill probably $700. Because you know back there, cell phone bill, they charge you about a minute. It was like $3 a minute, Joe. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like $3,4 a minute.

I mean, a phone bill. Hey, quick. High. I had that big old brick, too. I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I was a seventh round draft pick making $64,000. I got a cell phone bill. Oh, yeah.

The Motorola, the Motorola ate something. I know he talked about it. Yeah, that big brick, yeah, they had the big brick. Now, it had the one that you had the, you had the pouch. You had to carry, like a pouch. Yeah. That you were carrying on your person, you could just hit it, yeah. And then they came with the portable.

What's on Joe? Was it, was it free on the weekends? Could you call on me? That came later. At first it wasn't like that. You had to pay, and it was all, like if you go out of the area, it was Roman. Roman Charging.

So you had to pay a Roman charge. Roman charges. Oh, yeah, yeah. Man, the Roma charge, man, that pay it be my... It'd be crazy. I ain't know. Hey, let me tell you.

I didn't know nothing about the Roma charge. I just, hey, they didn't explain it to you back then, Ocho. They don't explain it to you now that this is what you get. And if you go over your data, you've got to pay extra. They didn't explain it. Phone, this is what it costs, blah, blah, blah. I ain't enough about Roman. I ain't know if you go out of the thing roaming with extra like $6 or you got a call.

I'm big balling, Ocho. I'm taking my phone on the road. You got money, boy. Hey, listen, I forgot, I forgot what service provider. I didn't have no money. Yeah, I forgot what service provider I was with, Joe and Uncle. But I understood. I forgot what I was with too, Ocho.

I had him explain to me about the minutes. And they said, if you use a certain amount of minutes and you hold on to it, they don't use your phone that much this month, the minute's going to roll over. They roll over. Roll over the next month. I say, yeah. So I'm going to make sure I don't go over a certain amount.

of minutes, so I got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe, boy, hey, there was some days back then, boy. Oh, them some days. It don't work like that. You were the birth to the minute so quick. Man, what? You burned through the minute so quick. And then, once they brought that weekend,

after seven o'clock and weekend free, hey, I call, hey, I call y'all to sell more five. Hey, you get no call during the day. On the phone, on the phone all night long. Hey, I call you with it's free. And in the weekend, oh, you blurring that thing up. Hey, I'm talking to this thing. Hey, to that thing, get hot on the side of your head.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hold on, and Joe, hey, Joe, hey, don't have no girlfriend, though. On the weekend, y'all be on the phone. You be on the phone all day, all the night. Hold on, you wake up, the phone's sitting on your chest. Hello? Oh, you still there?

Yeah, I'm, the whole, hey, boy, hey, there was some days on. Hey, Joe, I know. you did. It was the day that you were a little, huh. You ain't a little, huh? You ain't, come on now. Hey, on the phone all night long. Ain't don't be talking about nothing.

Ain't talking about nothing. Six, seven hours straight. Man. They made the phone that the phone got smaller and they had a little clip that you have them on your side like that Star Trek. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the side kick too, yeah.

Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, them's some good memories. Let me ask you this, Joe and Ocho. Which game do you think will have the most views? Browns Raiders or Eagles. Cowboys. Browns Raiders.

Probably Browns Raiders. There's a lot of people, man, there's a lot of people looking forward to seeing Sheddoer play. They are. He got it's in the early window.

So they're not going head to head. They're not really going head to head. Okay. Because of the Fox, the Fox game, the Cowboys Eagles, I think, if I'm not mistaken, is that 425. 425, right.

And so what you call it is in that 405 window? Yeah. So all the, all the, The Cowboys, man. Hey, did you see all those Cowboys fans Monday night at that stadium, Ocho, Joe? Yeah, I did.

Did you see all those cowboy fans? Yeah. I flew out, we flew out, Jordan, I flew out on Tuesday morning. Uh-huh. Joe, Ocho, I was like, hold on. They fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta. So I could just imagine the people going back to Dallas.

I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there was so many. Cowboy fans in that airport. So many Cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots, that jersey, CD jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness. You people traveling, man.

They travel. Hey, the Steelers. Oh, man, they love the Cowboys. Hey, the Steelers, they're both in the late. Oh, actually, they moved them. The Coast Chief is in the early window. So the Coast Chief is the 1 o'clock game and now the Browns Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle,

are both in the same in the same 425 with them. Oh, shoot. It's going to be interested. Yeah. I still think the Browns and Raiders is going to have the most views. And the way they do that, see, you can't get, what you call them, like, like sometimes you can have,

they'll have, okay, you can watch this game, this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not going to do it with these two games. You got to pick one. You got to pick one. Hey, look, why it's so hard to watch the game now? Man, you got to download eight apps. You show to do?

I'm like, man, God. Guess what, Joe? Guess what? With that new contract come up, you'll have to download some more. Yeah. Well, you already got Netflix, but Netflix's going to want a package.

That's how they get it. That's how these franchise, you see all these franchises, how they skyrocketed in prices. I mean, Broncos owner just, he just bought the Broncos for four and a half million. Now they're worth $6.8 billion.

In five, six years, they've increased $2.3 billion. The Cowboys worked. what, 11, 12, 13 billion. Jerry Barton for 135-40 million. Mm. Hey, that's why because the revenue, there's not, look, there are a lot of sports.

There's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move the needle in North America like NFL football. Manful loves for football. And two reasons. Fantasy and sports betting. Mm-hmm. Because you watch it intently.

are they going to cover Ocho and then now the prop bets man sometimes you don't even care about the game I just want to see a CD get six catches I didn't want to see a CD get sent it by y'all I want to see what Chase man

hey that's why I have to stop being about all the other stuff I try to get these props hey look Ojo that's why I have to stop bedding I can't even watch the game in peace because I got my dad's talking to hit I'm like man

and look It's like when you watch it intensely like that, you ain't never going to hit. But boy, let you mess around, make a bed and end up falling asleep or something. Boy, he'd be right on the number. Every time. I have to stop watching.

That's how they do when you play in the cash three of the cash. Hey, I know you happy. Happy about what? I know you happy. I know your birthday came. I said what? What birthday? That's my sister called me.

Tell me, yeah, I know you probably had it. I said, had what? Your birthday. I said, huh? My birthday hit? At 0626, Catch, 4. I had, you know, I'm saying, I don't you? I had it straight box.

Yeah. A little cool, a little cool $12,500. A little 12,500 I hit. Yeah. Then the cash three, my aunt's birthday, 711. Yeah. I played it. I had it 10 times straight.

It came. That's $5,000. They tried to run it back past me, Joe, the next day. Because I played it that evening on Sunday. And I play it again, and I said, you know what? Y'all are going to throw it back again. Y'all going to try to run it back again. Hey, guess what?

They came, brought it right back, Joe. And guess what? I was sitting on it again. Another $5,000. Yeah, Joe, they can't get on my house. Matter of fact, you know what, I'm going to do that. Now you just gave me an idea. You know, I'm going to play my grandma and my mama birthdays.

I'm going to play my grandma and my mama birthdays. Probably play, you know, maybe due the year they were born. Yeah, I'm gonna go play. I don't... That's normally what I do. You play your birth. If you play it, you can play it straight, combo, straight box.

I played, I played it, I played it straight. I had it two times straight and one time combo. Combo probably costs you $2 because it's actually because now anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It can come 6620. It could come 660, any combination, and you'll get, you know, half of what you normally would get. So, oh, yeah, I'll hit it.

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Uh, Ocho, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night. Jamar Chase was suspended one game. The one game suspension will cause him over half a million dollars, $448,000. $333 in a game check and $58,824 in an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue this one game suspension claiming that if it was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the man's jersey. The ground. Oh, Cho.

Hmm. Oh, Cho, that's not. Come on, Ram. I mean, come on, Chase. He didn't even talk to the media. I'm, although that's what in Rappaport said, is that he said, he said, if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spin in his face

and not on the jersey the ground. Yeah, I don't think he said that. Okay. Because he declined to talk to media. He declined to talk to everybody today. Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk to everybody. What?

I guess his team put that out. But anyway, I don't know how, I don't know. But first of all, you said you didn't spit. So whether you were spitting on the ground or you would have did X, Y, and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said.

You said that after the game. Now, the, all that, Ocho, you know they shoot everything. May, you know they shoot everything in 4K? Mm-hmm. And you could actually see it. Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. You could see pimples on an ant booty from the moon. That's how good the cameras are, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. absolutely appeal it but I mean I just think you should you know call ram and say bro I'm sorry my motion's got the best of me and leave and and and because this one incident this is not you I don't believe this is you I'm

surprised that we actually have Ocho not having this conversation and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared in this I wouldn't have believed it if you you would have been the very last person they said a receiver I probably there are some other names I might have would have went to but I wouldn't have been I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't put that, I wouldn't put that on you. No. So I hope, I hope, that's what, or Ian Rappaport said he said, uh, his team said or he

said, I don't believe it. No, I've got, I'm going to say, let's just say, but for the sake of, but you did spit on him. Whether you would have, what you would have done, you spit on the man. And, uh, it's going to cause you, but you'll learn from it. Um, I don't believe this is the type of person that you are. Uh, we've all done things that we're, we're not the is not our finest moment yeah and don't i don't think this moment should just define

jemar chase they're going to be there's going to be a lot of other moments that we can look back and define um jama jama jama chase with this is not going to be your defining moment um but the the the best the best apology ocho is change behavior don't let something like this happen again and we're going to be good bro the funny thing about it when we talk about jane when we talk about change behavior of the players. I'm not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general. The change behavior most of the time, you know, he's going to make you forget about it on the field. Yes. It's going to make you forget about it on the field. And we never had problems out of chase

off the field anyway. No, you don't. You never have a problem from it. So when you think of a hypothetical, if this scenario or this situation never happened and he just thought of some players that it would come from, it wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes no problems. The problem he calls is on the field. Correct. fuck as hell that's it that's why that's why i struggle that's why you struggle yeah because you know him better than i do and there was never any indication he's so laid back he's so

if you watch it when it does an interview he's sitting back he chill he's sitting back like this here all the time yeah so he and a little bit that i've been around him i've been around him a couple time during the autograph signing uh i saw him at the super bowl he's a chill guy yeah he's not one of these high strong guys that you know that's liable to go off he's really mild mannered yeah so that's why it's so surprising but um um you know look like i said you know this season was supposed to be different they missed the playoff last year he had the triple crown he's the first triple crown said my brother to win that and not make the playoffs my brother won the triple crowd in 92 they didn't make the playoffs.

Yeah. He won the triple crowd in 24. They didn't. So almost 30, almost, well, over 30 years. Yeah. So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the triple crown.

It's hard. Very hard. So you got to have, you got to have the most catches, yard and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC, but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards. Sometimes you can have catches.

And then somebody nips you at with touchdown. He had both. It's kind of like winning the triple crowd. in baseball yeah yeah you could have a 380 baton average but you got 40 home runs and somebody got 50 or somebody drives in 135 that's why it doesn't happen that often Mickey Cabrero was the last one then you got to go all the way back to yas we call you skrimski okay okay yeah and they say who okay okay yeah so or the same thing in horse racing you know a you might win that first two

But that mile and a half at the Belmonts. Woo! That's it, that's hell, boy. Yeah. If you notice, now a lot of horses are just like, hey, forget it. They just stay, they're like, I don't even worry about it. We win the Kentucky Derby, we'll skip the preakness, we'll see you at the Belmont. Right.

I mean, it was such a long time and then, I mean, because everybody thought it was easy. You get secretary in 73 and then you get Seattle Saloo in a firm, back to back year, 77, 78. And then it's like, well, it's, man, it's 200. that it's too hard, it's too hard, it's too hard. And then you get American Fero do it, and then you come back with a Justify, Bob Baffert, two horses. Yeah.

It's hard. It's hard. You probably had more triple crown winners in baseball than you had in horse racing. Hmm. But, uh, and it's difficult. Oh, yeah, for sure. Hey, you, you've been to the Kentucky Derby before?

I've been, Ocho. We got A. It's all about, oh, Cho, it's all about the hat. Yes. for a man and a woman is all about I've seen women come with some hats and be barefooted to be barefooted yeah yeah I'm talking because they know I don't know for some reason it normally rains yeah but these Elcho these lady have these hats I mean one lady had a hat I mean this this hat was way out here like this here yeah you know you boy we had the hand a hey hey young you was at their shop oh huh

You would show up. If a fly lit on, if a fly would have landed on my old chart, to cut his throat. You see you messing me up. You're messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm a clean, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I didn't have been there a few times.

Obviously, when I was in Cincinnati, it's right down the street. As a matter of fact, hell, I flew into Cincinnati and drove over. Go down, yeah. Yeah. Right down the street, man. It's a great event. I only did it one time. You know, I'm not in that kind of.

and that kind of that's why I met I met I met Bob Bafford okay him and his son at the time I met a rest of his soul I think Dwayne Lucas I met a couple of them yeah it's a great it's great it's awesome sports it's unbelievable Ocho because it was it was on my bucket list I you know I've been to a world series obviously I've been to a Super Bowl the Kentucky Derby I want to do Daytona 500, I went to a, I want to do Wimbled. Huh? Listen, do me, do me a favor to give yourself some justice so you can understand the experience. When you go to Daytona 500, do not let them put you in a suite.

You need to sit in a stand so you can get the, oh, if you're to feel them going around that track. Yes, yes, you've got to be able to experience it. You got to feel those cars coming around, you know, the energy, the aura, the stands. You got to, oh, man, it's crazy, man. It's crazy. I mean, it's something about when you feel, when you feel 800 horsepower, and it's 42 of those cars,

and they go in 180, 190 miles an hour, and they're this close. Close. They're this close. Yeah. And those cars are damn they're upside down. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.

Unbelievable. Hey, boy. Hey, would they be, hey, they bump draft. Mm-hmm. That's a, uh, rest of soul, determinator. Dale Earnhardt. Boom, boom. Sling shot.

out in the back. Oh, man, I got to see that one. I got to see that. I want to see Wilmington because I went to see, I saw the US Open. I saw Serena. Mm-hmm. Who, she just got married to a couple of years ago

to David Lee. She, the Dane, the tennis player. She married David Lee, the basketball player. I saw her and Serena play a semifinal at the US Open on a Saturday night. What's her name? Weldoniaki, yep. She married David Lee.

I think they got a couple of kids. Cause I saw them in, I just saw them in Vegas. Maybe for the Super Bowl, uh, David Lee, uh, Michael Phelps and his wife. And it was David Lee and Wozniacki, uh, but man. Ocho, I got it, I got, huh? Yeah, you look at your boy. Hey, boy, what I see the boy?

Hey, boy, you clean, eh? Yeah, you see that boy in the flip sucker. I see you, okay, you clean. You clean. Something I pulled out. I was in a hurry. Was it in a hurry? All right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Hey, look, it's April. Oh, Joe, we might have to jump down there in a club. Shea, she might have to, I mean, a night camp might have to go on the road at the Derby. Hey, listen, I get my hat ready right now. Don't, don't tell me. Hey, can you know when it, when it comes to put them, put them things on, no, I put that, I put that, I put that, I put that, you know what on.

I'm ready. Yeah, we might, we've got to go and do a little something on, Joe. We're going to do something to do something. Hey, hey, speaking of horses in Kentucky Derby. My daughter, my daughter, Chachau, she plays tennis. Unc, she's phenomenal. She's phenomenal. And she loves horses.

I said, I love, she, sit, unk, I'm going to blame my mama. I'm going to blame my mama. We went riding horses this past weekend, a weekend before last. She asked me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles. And I'm like, man, we're in the world you learn all this stuff in? I'm like, okay, okay, cool. Okay. be in your pockets, too.

Hey, listen, so as soon as we finish riding, you know the first thing, Christmas's coming up. So the first thing I do, I'm talking to the lady, we're on the trail, we ride, and ask the train, I say, um, you know, what horses run? How must they cost? Okay, a thousand, fifteen hundred for something simple? Okay, what, please?

You know, I ain't getting nothing too expensive now. You know, she, she young now. So I'm like, okay, what about boarding? What about feeding? Do they have places? Do they have places out here? Yeah, that's where you spend the money. You know, well, they have board? It's like, yeah, that's what I'm going to call horse.

There's bored. So I ask her, I say, well, listen, I'm leaving my information and, you know, send it to me. And the numbers and would it cost weekly, monthly, and for the year. And I'm thinking about, you know, getting my daughter. I'm thinking about getting a Pasafino. I don't want none too big. I want some of a little small with a ride is smooth and a Pasoifino would be perfect for her. Yeah, I'm just curious.

I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of excited for her because she loved him so much. And I think that would be one of the best breast surprises for one of, one of my 85 on Christmas morning. The thing is, Ocho, is that, yeah, you get a horse for a decent price. You probably spend $1,500, maybe $5,000 on a horse. Which you got to put into it, completely different. But to board it and to feed it?

Yes. Yeah. But see, and too, also, you had to understand where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm further up north. and west a little bit ain't nothing out there but horses and stables that's it and when you think Miami you think South Beach you know all the nice stuff but I'm out there in the in a I don't even know what you want to call it you know you go to Walmart you go to Target and when you're driving it's people riding horses up and down the street like we in goddamn Texas

yeah that's I'm serious that's how far out I am from everybody right are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyrod Taylor. The moves comes following the 2714 loss to Patriots last Thursday night. The game in which Fields threw for 116 yards on 15 or 26 passing. Fields signed a two-year $40 million deal with the Jets last spring. The contract guarantees him $20 million in 25 and another $10 million in 26. Ocho, does this benching suggest that the Justin Fields experiment is officially over? song it does and I hate that for young bull I'm just going to be honest I hate that for him

and not only it's experiment over it puts the jet back in it put the jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time since Joe Namath is in search of a quarterback number one they're back in search of quarterback number one I really I really was pulling no for Justin fields and hoping this would be his season to have his own team um things can go well but the Bears. He went to Pittsburgh. We saw flashes. We saw flashes of brilliance leading that Pittsburgh Steelers team offensively to a four-and-two record before he was bent for Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy. Now, Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one. You have nothing to worry about. You don't have to

look over your shoulder. You can play freely, you know, just minimize your mistakes, protect the and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And to this point, we're in week 10, damn near. If I'm not mistaken, week 10, yeah? Yeah, we're about in the week 12. Oh, shit, well, we're in week 12. And just, no, week 13, yeah, this is week 12, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and.

By the end of the week, yeah, week 12. Yeah, at this point, based on the numbers, what you've seen, we've talked about it all the time, you know, having games, So you got 20, 30 yards at the half. Yeah, man. 45 yards passing, an NFL quarterback. Yeah, you can't. Okay, once, I get that.

But Ocho, 45, back to back, back to back, man, no. And sometimes when I think about it on it, it's like sometimes I think they sabotaging him, you know, but I know that's not the case. I know not the case because they can only sabotage you so much, you know, I heard for Young Bull because he's really he really won the opportunity to be quarterback number one and it just hasn't panned out or worked out no and the jess is probably one the worst situations to go to because you have clearly that you have to be that much better at the quarterback

position that everything around you you got to you got to be able to elevate everybody else around you and he's not that kind of quarterback Man. Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams couldn't help him. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. So you put that green and white on,

you already know. Damn. Well, listen, Tyraud, you know, proven veteran. Tyraig going to get in the out. And the one thing about him, you know, he's going to move that. Oh, you're going to let it by now. Tyraud or let it go. You're going to move that ball, too.

he's going to move that ball I wonder who the Jets got this week who did just play the Jets play the Ravens oh hell no shit hey in Baltimore

Tyrod lay that's what Tyron started remember Tyraud was the backup to Joe Fleco yeah the Joe yeah I remember yeah sure it was And he started to Buffalo. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. People forget that. That's right.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yes. Jeffrey Simmons said he's tired of sugar-coating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say. We need to be better.

I mean, we can't keep sending up and saying the same thing trying to sugarcoat this for the media for anybody. And I said it in the locker room, set it on the field. I'm tired of chicken code. I mean, we need to be better. The end of the day, we need to protect Cal better. Simply. There was a- How you got a feel as a defense when knowing if you give up two touchdowns or, you know, or whatever, that's going to be hard to win. Man, at that day, it's about complimenting football. We have to play better team football.

We, we, sometimes the offense, we're playing good, sometimes the defense. How can we play good as a team, free face? We're not playing good. team football right now. And it's showing. And Mike said it in practice Friday. We had freaking four false starts Friday. We're playing at home. We shouldn't have them in the false starts. Don't care. I'm tired of training feelings. I'm tired of losing. That's what I'm tired of doing. Oh, man. He's frustrated, boy. Yeah, yeah. He's talking about the offensive line. He's like how we have that many false starts when we play it at home? And home, yeah, you shouldn't, you shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side or the lack of noise is on your side, especially when the

offense is out there on the field. It shouldn't be any issues. I understand what he's saying. And the key word that he kept saying over and over is complimentary, you know? Offense play well. Defense play well. There has to be some type of balance on both sides. Now, you're not going to execute on every, every single drive, not every single drive,

but meet me halfway. Keep us off the field for a little bit. Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times. I'm just on that. I'm just throwing that number out there, but in general, Zeefins is tired. Give us a chance to rest. Let's put together some drives,

some consecutive drives together, you know? Give us a chance. With the way they're playing, they're not even giving themselves a chance to win games. Now it was a little close. To get the number one pick again next, this year.

I mean, in 26, Ocho. Yeah. And my dog. And not my dog hurt. You got to suck to get the back-to-back number one picks. Hey, that's tough. Well, hell, you know how bad you all to have. You're in the old Bengals territory.

You are in old, uh, uh, uh, Colts territory. Yeah, but, oh. Because you know y'all did that, right, don't you? Who? The Bengals. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Bengals was bad. John and Carter, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson.

Hey, the Bengals was bad, uh. I'm talking about back then. Who are you, you do realize? I was in the league where y'all was terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all come a long way, Ocho. Yeah, we have. The Coast was terrible, too.

Don't, hey, the Patriots were terrible, too. Terrible, yeah. They were a lot of terrible. They were bad. Hey, but, but Tennessee got a long way to go, huh? You know how bad you have the team? And, uh. Hey, you heard me?

You know how bad you had to be to get? Or, say, the team. Hold on. Ooh, wee. Oh, okay. I'm trying to think who the last team to have back to back number one overall picks so like we said like the Bengals right did with a Kejana I think it was Kajana Carter and Big Daddy Dan Wilkison who

damn what happened the same team has done it twice what was that Oh, they would have done it twice, back-to-back number one overall. Oh, just the Bengals? Oh, you give me the years. I'm probably going to get it. Oh, yeah, with Tim Couch and the guy from Penn State. Oh, Cleveland. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, Baker-Mayfield and Miles Garrett. Oh. What was the defensive line? Now, he, Courtney Brown. I remember, because Courtney, if I'm not mistaken, I think Courtney went one and, and what you call him, went two, didn't he? Yeah, uh, didn't, didn't LaBargo two to Washington after Courtney? Because they were on the same team, I think.

Just like the Colts had the first two picks, and they took Steve Edmont, and they took the guy from Texas A&M. Quentin Corriott. Yeah, 14,000 to the Brown, to Washington, yeah. Wow. Chris Samuel, the offensive lineman. Yeah. Man.

Yeah, it's tough, Ocho. And that's where you've got to have real strong leadership. Because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight. Yeah. Frustration starts the bubble. Yeah, Tennessee. You got to have some real, real, real, real strong leadership.

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