Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 1: CONFUSED how Kirk Cousins keeps getting PAID, REACTS to Jeremy Fowler EXPOSING Jalen Hurts for being UNCOACHABLE!

Episode Date: April 4, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the best of NFL. Unc and Ocho react to Kirk Cousins signing a massive deal with the Raiders, despite only having one playoff win in hi...s career. Later, they discuss reports that Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is uncoachable and Odell Beckham Jr.’s potential return to the New York Giants. Don’t miss this exciting episode from Nightcap! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Kirk Cousins signs with Raiders15:21 - Jalen Hurts blamed for Eagles offensive struggles21:55 - Puka Nacua checks into Rehab27:37 - 49ers respond to poor grades with $9M upgrade37:11 - Myles Garrett contract tweak unrelated to a trade Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:58 $172 million deal with the Raiders. In reality, it's a one-year, $20 million fully guaranteed deal that also can buy the club option for two years at $80 million. The Falcons will pay Kirk Cousers $8.7 million this season. The Raiders 1.3 and Las Vegas, excuse me, but the Raiders will also play another 1.3. That's $10 million. Vegas also agreed to play the new quarterback, a fully guaranteed $10 million roster bonus on the third day of the League New Year in 27.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And most notably, it also sets another new mark. It'll be the 11th straight NFL season in which Cousins has had a fully guaranteed contract. I told you, Uncle Joe, well, God has favor. God has favor for certain people. Obviously, timing for Kurt Cousins has always been impeccable, along with him betting on himself, Unk, when he was in D.C.? Oh, that's how y'all want to play?
Starting point is 00:04:00 You know what? I'm betting on myself. And every time he hit. Hey, he hit big. Every time he hit big in Washington. He hit big in Minnesota. Hell, he hit big in God damn Atlanta. And long behold, here we go.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Right back up. Right back at it again. Ooh. And that's a good security blanket for them too. That's a good security blanket. Nice bridge. Nice little bridge to Mendoza. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Very nice. Is he going to start, though? No, no, no. your cousin do start. You think so? For the first probably five to eight game, think about it, Ocho. Guess who his coach was in Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Quarterback coach. Cool. Yeah. Clibiac. Who the head coach of Vegas? Ocho, remember when you and I first started, I said, that's why you don't burn no bridges. You see how that was?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Because them guys go elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Think about it. All them coaches that I had in Baltimore, Rex Ryan got a head job. Marvin Lewis got a head job. Jack Del Rio, got a head job.
Starting point is 00:05:11 All those guys, Mike Nolan, head job. Yeah. Mike Smith, head job. So all you got to do is play your cards, right? Don't be no jerk. And guess what? They go get somewhere, you know what? Good veteran mentorship, leadership in this locker room,
Starting point is 00:05:30 let's go get old Ocho. Yeah. Let's go get Joe. But guys don't think. like that. They think all they think is in the present here right now where I am. Right. Man, please. Hey, either he got good luck or he got favor or he knows something about somebody. He got some information on somebody and they just keep giving the week.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Hey, Kurt Cousie hit the lick out here, man. Hey, he hit them across the head. Hey, I'm calling Mike. I was like, Mike, look here, man. I need a favor. I know you don't hire a lot of people. I knew a job 84 what you want to do where you want to be Sean McVey was on his staff
Starting point is 00:06:13 Kyle was on his staff Kevin O'Connell all the guys Lefleur I could do something let me be community community relations I can do something
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't want to do no coaching I don't do no coaching community relations you got no patience for no coaching the hell now get your money first cousins. Kirk Cousers' contract history. Four years
Starting point is 00:06:38 $2.57 million. And then he played that contract out, Ocho. And then he had a one year, basically $20 million deal. And then he had the next year, fully guaranteed because of the franchise tag. And then he had a one year basically $24 million deal. And then he signed a three year,
Starting point is 00:06:54 $84 million deal. Fully guaranteed, Ocho. And then he signed a two year, $66 million deal, Ocho. And then he signed a one year Minnesota, 35 million fully guaranteed, Ocho. And then he signed the four year, 180 million with a hundred million dollars guaranteed Ocho. And now, five years,
Starting point is 00:07:16 172 with 20 guarantee. And guess what? So five, six, nine, 11, 11, 12, 13. So what is this? This is 15th year, 14, 15 year? 14 year. And Grant told him 14 years, guess something to play? playoffs wins he got on your show drum roll please what
Starting point is 00:07:38 man get out of here one one my boy he got one Adam groman tweeted Kurt Cousers had earned more money in football than Michael Jordan did playing basketball more than Tiger Woods earned in playing golf more than Serena Williams
Starting point is 00:07:58 playing tennis his career earnings from NFL contracts and see the entire net worth of Merrill Street, who's won three Academy Awards and been nominated 21 times. They exceed the entire net worth of Martin Scorsese. Also, nearly identical to Tom Brady, who won seven Super Bowl. Cousins won playoff win. Off win.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Hey, he don't have no playoff win, Joe, but what? In his season, he won the Super Bowl with that bank account. He's in the Hall of Fame on you with that bank account Absolutely Yeah that's his age I don't know who his age it is But they might need to look at the hill
Starting point is 00:08:43 Hey You're talking about cousins got favor He got favor But Joe A cousin's numbers Are you in the blender During the regular season He's spreading their thing around in it
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh yeah He's like that thing Give him time He's surgical with that ball Damn Kurt hey, Kurtz sitting at the house, he's chilling, feet kicked up and everything. Uh-huh. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Very, he's very religious, too. Is he? Oh, yeah. Very. Good God for you to me. That's what I say. That's what I say you got favor now. Derek, how you said, Chasora?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Derek Chisora and Deonté Wider had their pre-fighter. had their pre-fight press carvers today. Let's take a listen to this, Joe and Ocho. Wow. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And I'm going to tell Dehry, I hope you bring his heart, because I'm going to take that to. How does he do that?
Starting point is 00:09:46 And how do you stop that happening? Why, he took him a long time ago when he said he bustsing on his baby mom and busting on his stomach? When I came, I used to come on her stomach. I had a good nut, and I nut her on her stomach. I was like, wow. Oh, Jesus. That was from Deonti Wider had an interview on Pierce Morgan. He said what he said.
Starting point is 00:10:14 He said his baby mama used a syringe allegedly impregnated herself, and that's how he had the child. That's what he alleges. I don't know if that to be true. I don't even know if that's the truth, but that's what he alleged on Pierce Morgan's show. So he said that and you know, anytime you're doing a press or Ocho and you're trying to hyperfight. You say some outlanded stuff. Chisora said, hey, I don't know. Hey, me?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Boy, they couldn't have sent me to Guantanamo Bay, waterboarded me with the CIA to get that up out of me. Yeah. Hell no. Hey, you know, that's natural. You know it's natural, man. Natural. Natural.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You got to put it somewhere. What's natural? Just got you put it somewhere down. You got to tell somebody where you put it, Ocho. That's the point. I mean. Yeah, you're right. You know. But where else you're going to put it?
Starting point is 00:11:08 But consider what you are, what all you done, old tongue-foo master? So we're enjoying that. I don't put nothing past you. And listen, I'm sure we've all to conduct. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Don't know, no, we all. You speak in singular terms. You. No. No. No. You mean us. No.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You speak for you. No, no. No, no. We're Joe's nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all, hey, I know y'all, you know, your image is different, mine. I'm a wild, I'm a wild person.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I'm a wild boy, so this is expected of me, but y'all, I'm going to make, I'm going to let you all stay clean. My bad. Nah, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, Joe, when you try to do, try to be guilty of seeing.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. Yeah. I don't, no, no, no. Lord, please. I already don't. I know. It doesn't matter what the nose goes when the door's closed. I mean, it's all.
Starting point is 00:12:04 sex. When you close the door, Ocho, it's all six. I get it. But there's got to be limits. They got limits. They got limits on speed. No, no, no, no. They got limits on how far a plane can fly unless you got a B-52 or one of those one of those A-waxes that can refuel an Air Force One that can just keep refuel it. Yeah, we're trying to. But everything got limits. Yeah. Cars got limits how fast they can go. Plains got limit on how far they can travel. You ain't got no limits in the bad room. Yeah, you shouldn't have no limits, especially not the area. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Not the area. Come on, Joe. You got to slow down, Turbo. I don't slow. I've been slow as possible. I'm 58 now. Shoot, I ain't what I used to be. Joe, can I throw a flag on the plate?
Starting point is 00:12:51 I would, hey, well, I got another. I want to challenge everything that you see you. This man here. Listen, I'm just telling you about my experiences, man. I'm not the same. I don't slow down a little bit, man. And I really can't, I don't move like that no more, man. Man, I'm just saying, Ocho, man.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Come on, man. Dang. Ain't nothing wrong with the law on the palm. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. All right. That's need to hear that. Hey, but, what, I mean, I'm saying, what made them say that during a press conference, though?
Starting point is 00:13:22 I guess, look, allegedly, supposedly. We got to use, Joe, we got to use allegedly and supposedly. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do y'all like, do y'all see that allegedly running on the street? So allegedly supposedly, when he started losing, I guess the lady that he was seeing with his fiancé or wife or whatever the case may be, she went in a different direction. Now, that's the story that he's telling.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I don't know. And I guess you started seeing some NFL players. but allegedly I want to I want to be a I want a heavy emphasis on the allegedly Right right
Starting point is 00:14:16 Damn So Something you just keep to yourself man Hey Hey what is that fight on Yeah certainly Or long We're gonna be live after the fight
Starting point is 00:14:31 So make sure you make sure you Okay Hold on who ain't fighting Chisora Derek Chisora man it ain't been looking that good for wild or his past few fights, everybody.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Damn. Damn. Mm-mm. I hope you get this one off, man. I hope you win this one.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I hope you win this one. I hope you win this one. Oh, so, too. But, I mean. I know. know one thing, but Wilder catch him with, if he catch him with that guy, man, Ocho, we got to stop that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Talking about, everybody stayed in hollered about catching with the right. Yeah, wilda got the box. Yeah, you got the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Every fight I've been, every fight I've seen in the past few fights,
Starting point is 00:15:30 hey, it ain't been, it ain't been good. Yeah, you got to be right. You got your foundation, Ocho. I mean, I've seen bigger legs on a piano. I mean, he ain't got no foundation. Man, hey, they said that man is 6, 7, 2, 15. He is. He'll basketball player, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Hey. Hey, Joe, but he can crack. The problem is, hey, if he got to catch you, though. Yeah. You can block all you want. Sometimes that don't even help. But, hey, uncle, he went on a run. Oh, yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Like 30 straight, wasn't it off? Until he, straight knockouts. Everybody going to. Until he ran in the big boy. Oh, Fury. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, first of all, like you said, Ojoe, he can crack.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So he hit fewer with everything he had with the right. And then when he set up in the room like under, when he set up, like Undertaker. Like Undertaker? I mean, he was flat. That Joe set up. I ain't never seen him. I never, never seen nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like Jason. You know Jason Boy, hey, Jason, boy, he sit up and look around. Yeah. Then what you do? I didn't see nothing like that. I mean, you know, you hit somebody with everything God would allow. Everything you got. And that man sit up.
Starting point is 00:16:44 They got to be demoralizing. Man, what the hell? It's kind of like what Big George said. Big George said when he's doing a rumble in the jungle, he said he was hitting, he was hitting Ollie, wound, a wound, a wound. He said, Ali leaned in closer. That's all you got, Big George. Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, I'm on fuse right now.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Hey, they're rumbling in the jungle was different, boy. Yeah, yeah, Ali Bumba, yeah. Man, what? Hey, hey, I coach. Larry Drew, he played that right before a playoff series one day. As a matter of fact, it was the playoff series when I was playing him for the Hawks and we played against the Celtics, who was a one-seat and we was an eighth seed. We watched that whole thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Oh, y'all watched the Rumble in the Jungle? Yeah, we watched Rumble in the Jungle. Boy, I leave something else. Oh, yeah. Yeah, nice, boy. There's nothing like getting your fight. watching a fight, watching a movie scene, a war scene. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:22:35 Oh, a source within the Eagles organization believe Jalen Hertz is not the most coachable player per Jeremy Fowler. Or body language, not always bought in, not the most coachable, and the players notice. Key notes from the file report. Hertz was the person who called four verticals on the Eagles' last play of 2026 NFL playoffs, not Petula, wanted to avoid playing under center, reluctant to let it rip at times, particularly against zone coverage, pushback on changes that would diversely. the scheme.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Poor body language, not always bought in, diverts from the game plan and changes play calls to the excessive degree. Not the most coachable. Team makes notice. According to Fowler, Hurst stands at a crossroads. Despite his immense success,
Starting point is 00:23:33 sources says he had a hand in the Eagles' offense becoming calcified and frustrations have grown. Now, I know Eagle fans going to beat Ocho and I love about this. he ain't make this up i don't know if y'all know who jeremy file is they better know but if you don't know it came from that building yeah it it always comes from the building and and another thing i mean i don't like the nitpicking about you know in mannerisms and body language because his body language
Starting point is 00:24:06 has always been like that he's one that doesn't show much much passion doesn't show much excitement he doesn't smile much you see how he does his interviews everything is really really really really serious. That's just who he is. Ocho, hold on. Before you go any further, Ocho, okay, we take the stoicism. What about the most coachable? What about that? That's a good one. And especially being a quarterback, being a quarterback that's had success, being a quarterback that's already won a Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:24:33 I mean, in a way, in order to win and have that kind of consistency that they did have, don't you have to be coachable in this sense? Maybe last year, that might have been, okay, you know what, I don't like Petula system. I don't like what's going on. I want to simplify things, you know, to my liking. When I get plays that come in and it's something that I don't
Starting point is 00:24:53 like, I'm going to change it. So I could probably see maybe this season not being coachable because he's wanting to do things his way. All I'm going to say is this here. You didn't know this. Nobody know this. Jeremy Fowler is reporting.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It was Hertz who called the four verticals on the Eagles last play of 2020. 26 in the NFL playoffs, not Petula. Who knew that other than the damn coaches? That's it. Other players. So for Jeremy Fowler to get that,
Starting point is 00:25:29 because y'all are going to beat us up, Joe. You ain't going to get too much pushback. But Ocho and I are going to get pushback. How would this man know that? Everything, it always comes from in the building, no. Always. No matter who you are. It's going to get out.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But ain't nobody going to take the blame, though. Y'all know how I go. It's somebody talking to them. All I know is this. Me and Ocho's best friend. You, the God, it's been reported, I think that he's one of the godsons. AJ's kid.
Starting point is 00:26:02 How you fall out with that? One of the reasons that I came. I came to Cincinnati to play with Ocho. And now all of a sudden I want to leave Ocho? Even after I want a Super Bowl. Yeah. Bend the two one-one. No, I'm good because.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Let me go. something going on over there. AJ see that system, man, it ain't, it ain't working out for him, man. Hey, AJ's like, man,
Starting point is 00:26:30 I can't get my numbers. I can't catch no balls. And you know how, you know how AJ thinking, okay, I got my ring. So shoot, from this point on,
Starting point is 00:26:39 I'm trying to get the numbers right. Hello. AJ say, y'all got people thinking I'm some sauce out here now. That's what y'all thinking. I see what JSC, doing. I see what
Starting point is 00:26:52 pool could do it. I see what all these other receivers doing. Y'all got people thinking, I can't play no more. AJ washed. AJ can't run nothing but this. I'm telling you how AJ thinking. Yeah. Same thing. Slant, curl,
Starting point is 00:27:09 deep ball, left side of the field. Sluggo. That's it. Joe, they got him running three, three, maybe four routes. He's running a rail. Hey, he's going deep. He's running nine, right. left side, two yards outside, you run a rail. Every time.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You run a go ball. Right side, you're going to run a dig or you're going to run shallow. Or the slant. And third and short. He's running slant. And if they put them in a two by two, what's he called? Hey, somebody go run the divert, clear angle, back up underneath, the under route. Hey, because when you think about it, though, is it, I think it's because.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I think it's because Seacquan didn't have as great of a year as he had the year before, which hurts AJ, does it hurt AJ because of that? Well, but here's the thing. If Sequin's not running, if they got an extra guy down to stop, Sequan, come see you, boy. A pass game should be wide over, Joe. The offensive line was a little beat up. The big Lane Johnson dealt with injuries all year. Dickerson, dealt with injuries all year.
Starting point is 00:28:18 The center jergins dealt with injuries all year. The right guard wasn't as good. is Macaibecta. So, yeah, it goes hand in hand. But this later, hold on. Damn, we got a quarterback. We're paying them top dollar. So even the Seekoine not running.
Starting point is 00:28:35 But they got to do with anything. You make it, you make it $50 million a year? I don't want to hear no by Seekoine. Ooh. You got to get it done. I don't hear about no Charles Barclay, no Sequin Barclay, no Iran Barclay. I don't hear none of that.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm just, oh, I'm just, I'm just, you, I'm just, Oh, Cho, you know how these organizations think. Yeah. They don't turn up about that what's not working. Yeah. We paying you for to do your job. And when something's not working,
Starting point is 00:29:05 that means you lift your level of play and bring us home. You got you. Especially when you're making that kind of money. They don't want no excuses. They ain't trying. Well, what? They ain't trying to hear. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Nothing. It's going to be very, very interesting to see. The Rams have been urging to Pooking to to grow as a person after a series of controversies off the field of the past year. And now he's taking steps to do that. Puka has checked himself into a private facility. His attorney had confirmed today to focus on his health, personal growth, and overall development. Nakua checked himself into the facility on his own and will remain there until he completes the program of head of the Rams OTAs that start in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yes, sir. If you could offer him some advice, Joe, then you can take it. What would you, what would you say to Pooca's? I mean, understand the opportunity you have that's in front of you. Understand how valuable you are to the Los Angeles Rams. Understand how hard you've worked to get to where you at. Understand all the adversity, all the obstacles you had to overcome to get where you are. And remember that.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And don't forget it. Now, I think maybe Puka might be a little comfortable because of the success that he's having. Enjoying himself a little too much. It's okay to enjoy yourself, Joe, Joe, it's okay to enjoy yourself. Hell, I enjoyed myself, but I also knew what lines, not the cross, off the field. What did he do? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:30:36 Off the field. Oh, yeah, you got it. Shake the stuff in, but I'm saying, what happened? T.J., TJ, uh, who's himazada? Now, uh, allegedly, uh, he likes to party. Yeah. And, you know, the recent event that came out about the young lady, uh, he didn't look in, in the greatest control of it.
Starting point is 00:30:58 He bit on the buttocks. Man, this is why I told the Washington kid who was just on from Arkansas. Like, man, don't never forget how you got to where you're trying to get to. You feel me, whether it's the NFL, NBA, I don't care what it is. Man, have tunnel vision, focus on yourself and your craft, and leave all them distractions along. I promise you. Boy, hey, because the devil going to be working. He's going to be working.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm talking about he's going to be working overtime. You hear me? That's why you got to stay locked in, bro. Like, I try to, you know, especially young cats who coming into being a professional, you have to understand, yep, it's a lot that comes with that. It's a lot that you're going to enjoy. But it's some stuff that's going to come with it, man, that it ain't going to be too tasteful.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And so I think that's the biggest thing. He put himself in, you know, and the thing that I've learned is that it's okay. to not have an opinion about everything publicly. Yeah. You know, he's young and, you know, he got caught in, you know, being on someone's stream and, you know, they said some things that, you know, that kind of got him in trouble.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't really fought him for that. He didn't, he didn't really know what that meant. But you got to be careful. Yeah. You really, you really, you really, you really have to be careful in, in situations like this. And it's just, It's tough, man.
Starting point is 00:32:31 It's tough. I think it's harder. It's harder nowadays, too, fellas, than it was back. Yeah, you got more distractions. You got way more distractions. And it's just, it seems like everything gets seen now. There's cameras everywhere, Joe. Everybody got a camera.
Starting point is 00:32:46 There you go. You think you, you're talking on the low? You think, man, please. Yeah. It's, I just, hey, I just, you know, I just hope, because I, like I said, I've only been around. I've only been around in one, but he was, he was fun. Like I said, I haven't been around him in a football setting.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It was a very layback, the All-Star Game, Celebrity All-Star game, and Indy. He's a phenomenal talent. He's one of the two or three best receivers in all of football. He shows up. He's put the work in, and he's in line. I believe, you know, he's going to reset the market. JSA and got what he got.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I believe he's going to come and get, you know, $100,000, $200,000 more than JSA. He's that good. He's as good as advertised. Absolutely. But I think a person that could give him some great advice, go talk to Playmaker. Yes. Go talk to the playmaker.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Don't lose sight. The main thing is the main thing. Football. Football is the main thing. And you got a great opportunity. You got an opportunity to sit about three generations up for the rest of their lives. Man.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm glad. I'm glad he's getting the help. Hopefully it works. I don't know everybody's PR. I don't care. He go in there. I don't care if they don't have him reading books. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Let him go in there, get an opportunity to think about what's been done, some of the things that he's done, some of the behavior that he displayed, get that rectified and know, you know, hey, without consequences, there can be no lessons learned. Mm. Yeah. It's really simple. Ready for a different take on Formula One?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Look no further than no grip. A new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F-1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Crapicorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sports most consequential driver strike.
Starting point is 00:35:13 We have one man who, a person. kind of hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out, and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career, a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better, and plenty of other mishap scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the Mad and I've shared with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and
Starting point is 00:36:26 sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, its heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave? And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And, yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stuyen Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine. The NFL draft Pro Days, trades.
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Starting point is 00:39:21 Ocho, this is going to be right up your alley. John Lynch said the 49ers dug deeper into the NFLPA report card in which team training staff grades were relatively poor. The 49ers found that players wanted more 101 attention. So guess what they're doing, Ocho? Hiring three more PTs, investing $9 million in hydro areas, clove punch and pools,
Starting point is 00:39:42 which had graded low at the team facility. Okay. This is why that's what I want them out because they don't want that report out there. Yeah. Instead of, instead of like, oh, man, I can't believe they did this. They did something about it. What the NFL do? See, NFL don't want no negative grades.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So they suppress that. Yeah. We can't, whoa, whoa. So we're getting real of pro football focus grades. That's an independent party. But you know what? Ocho, I want to get, I want us to get back in good grades with the NFL. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:11 We'll shut up. Right. Listen, I'm picking up what you put down. but obviously this is a good thing. This is a good thing for the players. Obviously, you know, when it comes to the 49ers, they already have a bad rep out. You know, when it comes to injuries,
Starting point is 00:40:22 they've had a bad injury history over the years. Obviously, I like what Fred Warner said when he came on the show, we were down there in San Francisco and debunking the fact that it had anything to do with the power plant. The fire plant that is sitting adjacent. He just said, obviously, it's football. It's a barbaric sport. Injuries do happen.
Starting point is 00:40:43 But where the 49ers are choosing to do and adding, you know, three PTs and, and in, and cold plunging and things like that, yes. Improvement of some of those things to see if they can, they can help reduce some of these injuries that they are having, you know, in season is a great thing. It's a good thing. My bad, they don't already have all this, Uncle Ocho? They haven't, but they're adding more. Yeah, I would have thought they did. Hey, Unc, that goddamn Bengals facility, you hear me? I don't know how much money they pumped into that.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Hey, Joe, the locker rooms. I ain't never seen nothing like that, Joe. Man, I ain't never seen nothing like that, boy. It looked like you, it's looked like, I don't even know how to explain it. I don't even know I'd explain it. I just, I've never, because what I'm used to when I walked in the locker room, Joe. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:31 And when I went into the Bengals locker room now, like today, I'm like, man, it's almost unfair. Oh, Joe. It's almost unfair. Hey, Uncle, you ever been to the Hawks practice for? the one they got next to Emory. Yeah. I haven't been to it, but I saw it. I went and looked at it.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I was like, okay, y'all, y'all did it, not? Oh, yeah. It's nice, Joe. Oh, man, Ocho, every time I go in there because I do a lot of work with the house, I get, I get pissed off every time I walk in there. Well, y'all didn't what I was here. Man, when I was playing here, we got one,
Starting point is 00:42:03 listen, at the arena, at State Farm Arena, it was called Phillips Arena back in the day. Yeah. It's one small practice court inside the arena, That's what we practice at every day, bro. Yeah. Like when I walk into their practice facility now, Ocho, I'm talking about a state of the art, partner.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You hear me? I'm talking about everything, the bells and whistles, they got it. I'm talking about, man, listen. I'm thinking about to get me an intern with the strength and conditioning coach, man, just so I can go in there and work out. You know what I mean? And keep the guys right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 What? Hey, I want to be nosy. I should have asked somebody how much, you know, Mr. Brown and the Brown family poured into the training room, the locker room, the weight room, the nutrition, the cafeteria. Hey, Joe, it's like walking in some five-star hotel. When you talk about the bells and whistles
Starting point is 00:42:52 with all the lightning, hey, the charging stations and all that stuff. Hey, the play, eh, uh, the players lockers. Yeah, everything all lit up with the name. And I'm like, yeah, big old comfy chairs. Oh, man, they got a good. Hey, Joe, unbelievable. Like, the training room,
Starting point is 00:43:10 with the pools and the, I mean, listen, I didn't spend no time in the train room. The only time I went in there was it, you know, at halftime, I get the IV, you know, when it was hot because I would always cramping my calf muscles. Yeah. I mean, I was jealous. I was jealous. I am too.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I am too. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, it's a man, look here. They got all these dip tanks and infrared and, you know, Rio, they got cryo. Yeah, they got all that. They got, the Broncos got like two or three cryo tanks, and infrared beds and,
Starting point is 00:43:40 I still don't understand that. Those cold plunges, they got like three, four cold plunges. They got sonals, steam room. You understand that? They got three of those infrared, what you call it? Infrared sonnels. Yeah, they got the band band. What is that for?
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's to help your red blood cells for recovery at Arcan Ocho. So it's like giving your red blood cells a shot of espresso. You know what I mean to kind of wake them up. It speeds up healing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hey, my favorite one is that hydro tub when they got the treadmill inside that, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 You get that water, you can get on that treadmill. Man. They take all the, in all buoyancy, so ain't no pressure. Ain't nothing on the knees, the ankles, the joints. Hey, I can run on that thing all day. You hear me. Hey, Joe, that's for when you hurt, right? When you hurt and you're coming back from injuries.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Well, it ain't necessarily when you hurt. You can do it for recovery because, you know, just being in the water, it's like it's recovery. So they should make us get in the pool. Like, we're on the road. They'll wake you up early in the morning, make you go to the pool and just walk around and like five feet of water for like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's an act of recovery. So to have a treadmill under the water, like, man, that was everything, bro. Hey, look, I was always fascinated. I hated that thing. Did you? Because, you know, the way it was set up, because you had a current.
Starting point is 00:45:07 So, you know, you had a current going to get you. Yeah. So you. Yeah. Yeah. You have this man looking turn that thing down. Let me. Hey.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Hey, Joe, did you like the cold tub, Joe? I ain't like it, but I used to do. I used to do the hot and cold contrast, oh, Joe. Hey, Joe, I love that cold tub. You know, my crazy ass, I would wait to people be in the cold tub, and I wait to the all in there, and I go jump in. Oh, no. I cannonball in there.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Hey, they used to hate that, Joe. Hey, hey, we'd be fighting in the cold tub. That's the first day we tell you, hey, man, don't get in his splash and all that water, man, you need to sit down and be still. Because when we first started, you know, I called to them with a trash cans. Huh? Tothrofts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, no, no cold plunge, no taintiffel in. No, sit your ass on a big ass with whatever rubber made trash cans. You serious? Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Damn. At home, that's what I did. I went to a farm. I went to a farm store, a feeder store, and got me a couch. Yeah. That's what I, at home, that's what I had. Yeah. I would go to a convenience store, get me 10 bags of ice.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Ice? Okay. Yep. And then I was like, you know what? Then I bought me an ice maker that made 200 pounds of ice. There you go. With that in there, yeah. Now you're cooking with grease, boy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I had everything, I got the Norma Tech boots and I got a game ready. Yeah. You had all that stuff. Yeah. I had a laser. I left somebody borrowed and they never gave it back to me. Tony Banks. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I got that, I got that, I got that infrared son in my yoga studio. God damn, Joe. I'm about to come now. They do no yoga. You got one in the studio?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah, I got one, I got cryotherapy in the studio. Ocho, we ain't playing, man. You're going to come out of that glowing, baby.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Eyes going to be like this here. Yeah. And you got, you got money. What? Here we go. I'm just saying, I only seen stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:47:05 you know, in the movie. It ain't about having no money, Ocho, you know, it's just being, it's about being intentional. Being proactive. There you go. Hey, well, hey, you know how you know how you be intentional and proactive, Joe? By having money. The hell are you talking about? What are you getting to do from? Man, who raised it to?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Hey. Oh, man. Hey, hey, hey, a, a, a, check this out real quick, right? What's up? What are you, what do you, what do you call friends that eat together? Like, you know, friends. Like, you know, will you call friends they eat together? Friends that eat together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Hmm. Friends. Friends to eat together. Friends to eat together. What you got, Joe? Associates. No. Taste buds.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Hey, listen. I've been seeing, trying to think of the most off-the-wall stuff. I'm like, man, I know this. this dude. Hey, Ocho, Ocho, they say you laugh like Kermit the Frog. The man got teased. Oh, that was a good one. You wait, do you find out what the NFL trying to do about these players' contract? Ocho, you ain't going to be laughing.
Starting point is 00:48:46 We'll talk about that tomorrow. The Browns and Miles Garrett agreed to a modified language in his contract this offseason that makes it easier for the trade Garrett. what they did, but he's supposed to get $29 million a roster bonus on March 15th. They pushed it to seven days before the regular season start.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But Andrew Barry says the team will not try miles. Miles is a career brown. He's one of the faces of our organization. And I think we've been very clear, past and present in terms of our feelings. I understand all the questions. But I'll be honest. I don't really want to waste a ton of time,
Starting point is 00:49:23 more breath on that topic. Yeah. Ocho? What does, does the modification, to his contract where you kick it. I mean, my, like, hold on. Y'all, y'all be to tell me y'all kicked $29 million.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'll let y'all kick $29 million down the road. I could have got that Mark 15th, but now it's seven days before the regular season. So that's seven. So April, May, June, July, August. So about six months, I let y'all kick that down the road. One thing they're going to do, but they're going to lie to you every time when they get in front of that camera. They're going to lie to you every time they get in front of that camera.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know exactly why you kick that money on down the road to allow yourself room to be able to trade Garrett to a team that gives him opportunity and a chance to win for a change where he's the facie of franchise or not whether you want him to be a one-jurdy team player which he should be but also based on what he's done you should reward him with an opportunity to go somewhere where he can have a chance to win for a change I mean come on now and we we know why you did it I hey listen one thing about them coaches and them owners and them GMs when they get in front of their camera they're going to act like a politician They're going to tell you everything you want to hear
Starting point is 00:50:31 knowing that they're not going to deliver and it's not the truth. They hit that lie button. Huh? They hit that lie button. Everything comes out of their mouth is a lie. All the time. There's no reason to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Just leave it alone. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't like the 29 million goals away. The only thing is that that dead cap is not on your space because if you paid that money, you've got to absorb that dead cap. Even though he's somewhere else. I mean, here.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So now he's somebody else who will have to pay that. Look, obviously he's the best player. And you know what? Now that I think about it, Miles Garrett might win. He might do something only a handful of defensive players of the top 100. He might be number one. He should be.
Starting point is 00:51:25 He should be. I think, I think, has any defensive player, Maybe JJ Watt. Has D.J. Watt been number one? Aaron Donald been number one? Because normally is reserved for a quarterback. Yeah. I think Adrian Peterson won it one year.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I think the year that he came back, I think Adrian Peterson might have won it. Tyreek Hill wanted one year. That's 17-100-yard season. Yeah. Lamar won it a couple of times, if I'm not mistaken. I think my homeboy, Brady's won it the most. Have the defensive player ever won the award?
Starting point is 00:52:00 What did JJ fitter? Okay, yeah. Okay. So they got two. JJ in 2015, Aaron Dahl in 2019. So. Hey,
Starting point is 00:52:15 I'm, listen, Miles Garrett, either to Philly, Miles Garrett, maybe. That might be why they hold it. That's why Philly's holding on to A.J.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Brown. They might know something we don't know old John. Yeah. AJ Brown over to, hey, and I just said it. You get you one dog. Get you one dog.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That Sean Watson. to A.J. Brown. Yeah. Because for me, because look, as much as I would love to see Miles finish his career, I think he, I want to see him on the biggest
Starting point is 00:52:54 stages. I want to see him a chance. I want to see those sacks and actually meet something. To someone other than himself. Because when you're playing behind and you get 23 sacks and you still win five games. You shouldn't win five games with 23 sacks. Y'all should be in the playoffs. And just imagine what he could
Starting point is 00:53:10 potentially do if his team ever had a league. And the other team has to throw. I mean, the man had five sacks against the Patriots and they got beat by 14. That doesn't normally happen, Ocho. Yeah, you're right. Because before you know it, the game's out of hand. Now you got to throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I know you got to throw it. You know you got to throw it. But I just don't know him being there if they're ever going to win because there are so many holes they need to plug. Well, and honestly, the holes they need to play. Well, and honestly, the holes that need to plug on the offensive side. All the holes that need to plug and listen,
Starting point is 00:53:52 you won't be able to place Miles Garrett, but you can get someone that's competent. Someone that's not going to get to hell, he's not going to get your 23 goddamn sacks, but you have so many other pieces around you defensively that are just that good. We're missing Miles Garrett. It'll be somewhat of a step back, but you still will
Starting point is 00:54:08 be good. You won't be great. You'll still be good, but you need so much offensively. They're letting him go and being able to to build that offense and help your quarterback situation out is much more important than keeping Miles Garrett and winning another four or five games. It's a situation, oh, Joe, the roof is leaking. The sink is clogged.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The toilet's overflowing and the shower doesn't work. I got to fix the problem. The problem I'm going to fix first, the toilet overflow. And I got to get that out there. I got to get that fixed. And then I work, hey, I don't want to get rained on. shower A, I go take a shower in the rain. So, but they got so many things going on, Ocho, that Miles can't solve it.
Starting point is 00:55:01 They've done a horrible job of putting people on the other side of the ball. You get, you got Densale. You got Grand Delpit. You got Miles. You've done a great job on the defensive side. The linebacker was working a year, defense's worth of the year. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah. every year. So you've done a great job with that. How the hell have you missed so bad? Now, I like Harry Van de Juniors. Hey, he got something. You got something. I like the running back.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Quinn, Quinn, yeah, Jacket. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, you got to get some wide outs. Yeah, one, one. You need one. And when it happens, I said it first. So when Miles Garrett end up over there in Philly,
Starting point is 00:55:49 make sure y'all come back and just replay this. He might end up in Dallas. You know they're going to want pickings now. You got to tell me twice. I just said they need a receiver. I just didn't want to say no name because everybody gets mad at me. They can get mad all they want to. I don't see them trading them to Dallas without pickings coming.
Starting point is 00:56:17 You see that? It's a possibility. No, I'm saying do you see Dallas getting Miles Garrett without getting No, no, no, that's not going to happen. Pick. There's some, hey, even swap. Even swap, baby. Do me right.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Even swap ain't no swindle. Who are you telling? I just want my, I was the one time to play, to play in meaningful games. Yeah, meaningful football, yeah? I mean, all, I mean, for the most part, most greats, you know, whether they want or not, they played them. Bruce and Reggie, uh, Time, L.T. Ray, Kee. Patrick Willis, Aaron Donald,
Starting point is 00:57:09 JJ, unfortunately, he did not get an opportunity to play at the Super Bowl. But a lot of the great, and that's what you want to see. Now, it doesn't guarantee, it doesn't guarantee you're going to win. But play on that big stage. Play in a championship game. Where rushes matter.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Get three sacks in an AFC or NFC championship game. Be the difference in that game. Aaron Donald, those defensive player of the year, but go back and cut the tape on in that Super Bowl. in Cincinnati and watch how he got down and watch how he took the game over. Especially the goddamn, especially they got them, fourth down. All we had to do is just
Starting point is 00:57:48 block him on that four down. He messed up the goddamn throw. But, Ocho, you got to remember on that third down and one, the guy blocking him, and he grabbed the guy with one hand and stopped it from getting the first down. Damn, man.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And right before the half, remember they got that turn on right before the half and he got that sack. I think he might come back this year. What you think? Hell, no. But you see the clips of him working out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Are he the more than he? Yeah, he's working out like he might just come back. Nah, he don't got the passion. He said it. He's like, I don't have a passion. He exhausted everything that he had. I mean, you, you know, you watching me say, hey, my dad had me getting up early, early in the morning. He said, man, I did.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I said, y'all saw Pitt and your. y'all saw the Rams, but y'all don't realize I was doing this high school. I don't blame him. At some point in time, I mean, he still loved the game, but the passion to train at the level that he need to, to still be Eradonnell. He can't go out there and be anything else other than 99. Anything else will be uncivilized. So that's the fag.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think the fagg is, Joe, that's the biggest thing from the greats. It's not like they don't love the game, but. I can't give that same level of intensity and consistency to the game. I could imagine. Because I could imagine. All I know is 99. With them with them horns on his helmet. With the ass.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Going up and down the line, turn it. Damn, that's long. They got, hey, they got the damn boat on there and everything. I couldn't imagine playing D tackle too, you know, always having to deal with that goddamn, uh, that double team. That double team. Oh, my goodness. especially him.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Hey. You already know, you go into the game. And we played guys like that. Hell, I played against Reggie, played against Redge, played against D.T. He, not, you better find out where he is. And wherever he's at, that's where he's at, that's where to double go.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And the funny thing about it is Aaron Donald was able to dominate for such a long time, and he had the highest percentage when it came to being a double team. That joke was so quick out of the ball, man. I told you until the first time I saw him, he said man that's Aaron Donald I said from Pitt I mean he was he was knocking
Starting point is 01:00:20 Ocho but I'm talking about you know I thought it goes I thought I go see I thought I was going to see six four too short looking like miles looking like miles now he played he solid now but
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'm like what damn when you see him he doesn't look you watch him get up the ball he quick quick you know and you think about you think about all the all the things that make a defense
Starting point is 01:00:42 to tackle good you know all the different attributes. He was graded every last one of them. Every last box, he checked. Whether it was stopping the run, taking on the double team, being able to swim, pushing the pull-up, I mean, whatever the verbiage is that you use that, you know, oh, man, he had real, he was good at all of it.
Starting point is 01:01:03 He can rib, he can bill you, he can wax on, wax off. Yeah, man. And his footwork, you ever seen his footwork drills? His footwork looks like a goddamn receiver or running back. But as I told, listen at him talk when he was talking to defensive lineman. He said, you play on edges. He said, don't let that man square you up. You get on an edge.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Half a man. Half a man. That's it. That's what we talk about on your shoulder. I'm never, you never going to put both of your hands in my damn chest. I'm going, I'm going inside or outside. I'm getting on an edge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I promise you that. I'm going to get on an edge. But he was, he was, he was spent. And I don't, you know, obviously just watching it from a distance, but, you know, he kind of reminds you of a Johnny Randall. Ah, that's a good comparison. Good comparison. Johnny was undersized. You know, Johnny came in as 235 pounds defensive tackle.
Starting point is 01:02:07 That's a little. You know how small that is, especially back then when all that you tackle, all that you tackled was big? Yeah. I mean, to play the under tackle. He got, I mean, his hands are kind of like sap. Because if you look at Sapp, Sapp, sap didn't play with gloves. Sap just tape his fingers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Tape his fingers. Yeah. And so he did a great job of grabbing. Sam liked to feel three. He liked to feel cloth. So he liked to pull. What you call it was great at pulling, AD. But it was definitely a pleasure to watch him play. Hi, Roseman.
Starting point is 01:02:47 had a stark answer for every question about AJ Brown that he fielded from the local media. I understand there's an interest in AJ Brown's story. I, unfortunately, have a home under a rock. But my answer to any question on AJ is A.J. Brown is a member of the Eagles. From my perspective, anything you ask me about A.J., I'm going to write back to that answer. But I understand the interest. I put it on TV and I see there's interest. But my answer is A.J. Brown's.
Starting point is 01:03:17 is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. You're going to keep, listen, he's going to keep it politically correct. You expect him to say that, you know. He's not going to pour gasoline on the fire, you know. But we know. I think A.J. Brown time is up, you know, in Philly. He did his due diligence while he was there. He's frustrated with the offense.
Starting point is 01:03:40 He's frustrated with his usage. I think he will be somewhere. Now, where he will be, I don't know. I don't know, but I can see the scenario, and I'm telling you right now, chat, when it comes to me guessing and foreseeing the future on where players are going, I'm like 10 for 10. I'm like 10 for 10, Chad. And you know that. I really think A.J. Brown will probably end up in Cleveland, and I can see Miles Garrett going to play meaningful football and being in the playoffs this year with the Eagles. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Now, if I'm lying, I'm flying. And I'm sitting right here in my chair. It's just hard for me to see a scenario where he is with the Eagles. I think there's a greater percent, a greater chance that he's not on the Eagles, that he is with the Eagles. I think what Dallas did last year was pick up Pickens after the draft. I think, you know, I think that was what, I think the Eagles really want to hold on. to that, want to hold on and see,
Starting point is 01:04:54 Cleveland, what y'all really trying to do now? Because, you know, we can make it worse in a while. Are you, mm-hmm. We can give you A.J. and two-player two-first,
Starting point is 01:05:05 or we can give you Jalen Carter in two-first. We can make it worth you while because we just signed Jordan Davis. You got Hunt. I think that's the guy. Last year,
Starting point is 01:05:23 I think Jordan Davis outperformed Jalen Carter. So Miles Garrett, Jordan Davis got on the other side with Braun Cooper Dejean they got Woolwin they got Mitchell
Starting point is 01:05:41 that's a pretty simple wait wait wait wait Wolin that's where he left Seattle he didn't that's where he win I like that I like that I think it's going to happen Miles Garrett to the Eagles
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