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Because you guys are football people, and I can't ask both of you, what's going to happen up here with Drable up in Boston and New England? Lord, have mercy. Well, who? Brain, I'm sure hoping you wasn't asking that question. I said, damn, my whole, we should have brief you, Brad, talking about you can't ask that. Oh, Joe, we should have told Bray,

we should have gave Brad to listen to that. Hey, then he can't ask. Listen, it's not, it's not the first, right? Brent, it's not the first and it won't be the last. And it happens all the time. What happened is people are looking at it, and they say, well, Shannon, what about Sharon Moore in Michigan. What about

I may in Boston? I say, guys, those are subordinates. Ms. Rusini is not an employee of the Patriots. Mike Vrable is not an employee of the athletic. In that situation, it's different.

So I get it, it's morally wrong. Both are married. They're going to have to deal with that with their spouses. But now, hey, maybe it gets so hot that Mr. Krabb doesn't have a choice, but if the reports are true, he tried to catch and kill the story. So he knew about it before the world knew about it.

Well, the thing about there were a picture, he said that I wasn't involved with this woman, but then they went back and found pictures about six or seven years. And he was kissing, yeah, he was kissing, kissing this woman at the bar. So, I mean, that to me, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying, you know, I'm definitely not saying

he should be fired or anything like that. But our society right now is really kind of different. When we're talking about stepping on toes and all this stuff, and he told the story, saying, well, you know, you guys are crazy if you think it was a story.

Well, you can't say that kind of stuff if it was a story. But see, here's the thing. because of your coach and your wife is really not visible, if they were out in public, you would think, okay, he's married,

she's married, that's the couple. You don't know Mike Brable, you people probably have never seen his wife. Now, the likelihood, guess what? They're in different locations.

They're not in New York. They're not in New England. So ain't nobody for the wiser. Ain't nobody know. Well, we know now. How about this? We know not.

Yeah. You know now. If you got a wife and nobody has ever seen her and you're out with somebody else, people are going to naturally assume that's his wife. Yeah. And so now, guess what? We get this out.

You know what? I saw them in the casino one time. I saw them in a bar. As a matter of fact, let me go through my phone log. Let me see a deep photo. See, I got a picture of them, too. You know what? Another part, I think maybe because I've been, well, Joe, I mean, Brad, you as well, Unk,

we've been in a lifestyle so much where we've seen so many, so many situations, so many cases, even some that weren't made public or we know about it behind closed doors, but we've seen situations like this so much, like so often over the years, It's like to others, you know, the regular folks, like, oh, my God, look what's going on. But it's normal. And I'm thinking back, like, to myself, I'm like, it's normal. It's normal. Like, in that world, like, y'all going crazy and acting.

Like, I'm like, and to me, I have to reset and I have to think. Like, okay, you know what? They're not used to this. They're not used to seeing this. And they use the words, what about, you know, morals and integrity? I'm like, oh my goodness, I just wish you were a part of this world for just a year. You know, and I mean, like, it's different. And I think it's hard for people on the outside that aren't in that lifestyle.

I don't live in that world to where it's like it's, I'm almost numb to it because I see it all the time. All the time. That's like, I mean, I got in trouble for cursing there's somebody about like, why did you all talk about this on nightcap? Why didn't this is a huge story? And I'm like, like, what the fuck? No, it's not. This shit happened all the time. Brad,

but you know what, Brad, I had to remember like... Bread, go ahead, don't you finish. No, I mean, I had to think, like, I had to reset and remember like, okay, everybody doesn't live in that world that kind of understand. And so, like, I get it now in a sense.

And the thing is, Brad, you know, when you was in the league and when I got into the league, reporters would see things. Yeah. And it never got out. You and the, hey, like... Bro, that's... Because the reporters were hanging with you,

and they were doing some of the things, same things you would do. They tried to get you. Right. But Ocho can say, Ocho can say right now that, yeah, he's numb to it, but our world has changed from when we were in the league at one time.

It's not like it was when we were all in the league. even Joe, who's been more recently than us, the fact that the world has changed so much to NBA, the standards, all the stuff around it, it's easier now to get women and all those things that happen. But at the same time, you would boast a lot more, aren't you, Joe, in this situation? Hey, it's easy for your ass to get caught, too,

with all these phones. This right here? Yeah. This was the greatest invention, The worst invention. With more relationships. Right. Hold on. A phone and that email.

And this is, this is, hey, this is the funny thing about it too, you think about technology, right? And how far advanced we've come with cameras everywhere and camera phones and everybody having to phone out is all the things that are happening today, they've been going on for years. They were happening before we were here. They were happening when my grandma was here.

It's just the fact that everything is magnified now because of technology, because of social media. So nothing is new in just being brought to light at a much more higher rate. That's it. Yeah.

Everything changed. I remember Joe Johnson said something to me and I love this. Yeah, Joe, I'm putting stepping on your toes a little bit. I remember when you got to Brooklyn and I saw you at the game one time,

you're like, man, I never see so many damn pretty women in my life in damn New York City. Man. I said, you were in the land. Joe said, man, he said New York City is on a whole other level. And you are playing with damn Brooklyn.

You won't play with them to Knicks. Hey man, New York different, bro. I was telling Ocho that. But, you know, I think it's just, it's just because we're, we have access to so much. And we've seen so much, you know, the good, the bad, the ugly, that nothing really surprises us, bro. Like, it's, it's hard.

It's hard to throw a fastball at me. And I, you know what I mean? And I'm like, boy, I've seen this movie before. You know what I mean? But it's like now, it's like now when you think your ass low, you ain't low. Somebody see your ass. There ain't no thousand eyes. Ain't no down low.

Hell no. Uh-uh. You better keep your nose clean, boy. I see guys. I mean, I see people all the time. I just pretend, hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Hey, hey, how you doing?

It's nice to see you. I ain't never seen you before in my life, but it's nice to see you. But here's the thing I think was really different about it was, and I was single at the time, but I didn't know that women invested in men the way we invested in them until I got traded to another team. Then I found out about a bigger. Wait a minute. I thought she was with. But no, she was with. And you found out when you go to another team, it's all of a sudden, damn, well, these women are working this thing.

And now even more so, when I think about the money and how big it is and all this stuff, I'm just flabbergasted. I look at the, who is your guy that's, his wife is an actor and his wife is an actress, and she got all that money? He formed a basketball player, played with the Knicks. Yeah, he played with the Knicks. He played with Cleveland also.

He had to give us, his wife is famous right now. What's her name? You're talking about Tristan? No, he's talking about Tristan Thompson. I'm talking about his wife right now is doing all these movies. He's on ESPN.

Got real dark lips. I don't know who I'm talking about. Imai Shuffer. Imai Shuffer. Yeah. Yeah. The money he had to give up to his wife. Ex-wife.

Yes, ex. Well, the money he had to give up, I don't give a damn what the ex is. That wasn't a damn thing. The money he had to give up. He gave up four houses. What one of these four damn houses? I'm sorry. I'm up here.

I might not be on the show ever again, but I'm preaching this thing right now. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. Brad will get up. Brad will get up. No. Why not you're doing it? Come on, man.

Come on. Hey, hey, like Martin say on thin line between love, hey, she broke me down to my damn police station. Hey, hey. I don't understand. I don't understand it. And I know we're in the era where we see players and we see and celebrities cross together.

But when I see some of the finances now, it's like, it's like Ant Man gave his baby mama gave her a million dollars and she wanted to come back and said, now, now, no, no, no, no homes. You didn't give me enough. He signed the new contract. I'm like, damn, what is going on in this world? It's a scary, it's a scary, we're in scary times, man, for real. We really in scary times, bro.

You got to really be tough on you. I think you should just go. I'll just go down to Tusties and get my money way down there. I'm good. This May, I are ready. Celebrates Asian Heritage Month. Discover powerful stories, vibrant cultures, and unforgettable music. From inspiring podcasts to playlist that span East, South, Southeast, and West Asian artists,

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We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Rand. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.

He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah. You figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Uh-oh. Sean Watson has emerged from minicamp last week with the early lead over Shadour in the quarterback competition and has the inside track to be named QB1, according to Mary K.

Cabot. Head coach Todd Munkin hopes to declare or at least identify his starting quarterback by the end of mandatory minicapes June 9th through the 11th. Ocho, I know it's early. Yeah. We were talking about this. Yeah. We looked at the $46 million salary.

Yes, sir. hard for a guy to be a $46 million to be on the bench. Either he going to start or you're going to trade him or release it, but he wasn't going to be there. Take us away, Ocho. What gave you the conviction that you say, you know what? Look, I understand your door and he closed out. They got a new head coach.

But Deshawn Watson, going to be the starter. Yeah, I understood Deshaun Watson. Just understanding the business in general, Uncle Joe, especially the money that they invested in them, money that they can't get back. There's really nothing that they can do about it this year. What he's making is what he's making. So if he's making that and he's actually. healthy this time and there's nothing wrong with him.

Uncle Joe, he's going to be in there as a starting quarterback. I mean, people should know that from the outside looking in. You know what? Very well may be. God damn, God damn it. Slip in my goddamn mind. What is, Chador? Chador probably will be the quarterback of the future.

But we won't know until Deshaun played this season and things aren't going well. That'll be the only time Chador unseats him as a starting quarterback. They're going to get Deshaun Watson every ample opportunity to not only win this battle to justify the money that he's making, but to also put on film and audition for other teams after this season is up.

Because obviously he won't be with Cleveland next year, Joe. Unless he have a hell of a year. But that's what I would be afraid of, Joe. I would be afraid of that, Ocho. He has a hell of a year. His injury history, then what? I gave him another. give him another three-year, four-year deal,

$150, $200 million. They ain't going to want to do that. No, I don't think they're going to do that. Because that's the going, that's the going rate. How old, Deshaun? Deshawn's not that old. Yeah, but that's... What, is he 32?

If he's that? But they're still not going to do that, though. They still not going to do that. Yeah, this is the opportunity for him to be able to show what he can do for other teams that may still be able to put back. Deshaun's 30 years old, guys. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You mean to tell me, if this man goes out,

gets the Browns to the playoffs. Let's say they make it, let's say they make it to the second round. Yeah. You say, y'all don't think they're bringing back? No. Mm-hmm. That's not your quarterback for the next 10 years.

Your quarterback for the next 10 years is probably sitting behind him. I get that. Yeah, no, no. Mm-mm. And I think they'll move on. I just say he's started this year just based on the salary and the amount of money he's making. They're not going to have him on.

on the bench, especially when he's healthy. Has the schedule came out yet? The NFL schedule came out yet? No. I don't think. I want to see who the first six, seven games against. We know who the opponents are. We know, like, the NFC is going to play the AFC West or something like that.

But we don't know when they're going to actually play. Okay. That's going to be interesting, no. It's, in a way, it's a good thing. you know, for DeShan, you know, Joker just gives them an opportunity to show that he can still play at a very high level. And it probably won't be in Cleveland after this season, but there'll probably be somewhere else in showing that you can still get it done. You know, they've got the right reps around you. They had a very, very good draft.

Yeah, I agree. So, I agree. I'm excited to see what they do. And Shadour will have his opportunity. He's going to get a chance. He's going to get a chance where the team is acting his and he doesn't have to look over his shoulder, you know. If things don't go right for Deshawn this season, Shadoo will step up.

And once you step in, once you step in at that position, you've got to close that door behind you. Yeah. Part of me agree with you, Joe, because I think Deshawn can make it very, very interesting. Yeah. Very difficult for the Brown.

He goes out there and plays like we know he can play, like what we last saw him. Now, we haven't seen this in a long time. It's been many, many years, moved since we lost last saw Deshaun, and many had him as a top three, top four quarterback in all the football. He haven't seen that guy in a while. I don't know if he can get back to that injuries, shoulder injuries, Achilles, things like

that, kind of robbed him of some of his ability. But if he can get back to that, let's just say he's only 30. Yeah. He gets back to that, Ocho. He makes it very difficult. Now, the question is, would the Browns be willing to invest another $150, $200 million in him? That's the question. No.

They allow that to be on someone else's books. They're built around Chador for another two years until he's up. And that would make more sense to me than investing. I already paid a boatload of money guaranteed to him. You know, I'm allowed, I'm going to let that money go on somebody else's books that needs it. I'm going to go young with Chador. It'll be a good two, three years. That's what I'm saying.

Before, before I, you know. before you had to You got to pay him. Yeah. Yeah. The New York Times drops its unranked list of the top third

of the 30 greatest living living American songwriters. Nile Rogers. Lucinda Williams, Stevie Wonder, J. Z., Paul Simon, Taylor Swift, Brian and Eddie Holland, Missy Elliott,

Lina Richie, Dali Parton, Young thug. Diane Warren, Josh Arsburn, Brandon Clark, Shane McNally, Fiona Apple, baby face,

Stefan Merritt, Romeo Santos, Carol King, Outcast, Mariah Carey, Willie Nelson, Kendrick Lamar, Valerie Simpson,

uh, Bob Dylan, Lainadale Ray, The Dream, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Bad Bunny, Bruce Springsteen,

Smokey Robinson. You ain't say Drake? You ain't say Drake? Hell, it wasn't me. It ain't my list. I just read the list that they had up there. I ain't got no Kanye. There's a whole lot of people that do a whole lot of writing,

depending on how in-depth you are with different genres of music. There's some names on there I never would have known. Damn. That were actual writers outside of doing music themselves. Yeah. I've heard, you know, Nile Rogers and Jay-Z. Paul Simon, obviously Stevie Wonder, Missy. I mean, I know some of these, some of these I agree with you.

I know Diane Warren. Yeah. I'm young thug? Yeah. I'm sure young thug writes for other artists. Where's future? Yeah. Okay, how about that?

You got young thug as a better ride over future? I mean, how you ain't got drinking that, though? Real talk. What about Kanye? What we doing now? Hey, doing exactly what they want us? do, have a conversation and get up to it. Well, we have it.

You know, they left Future and Kanye out there just because. They had to, bro. I love Future. I love Future. I love Future because it's his soulfulness. Like, you know, he, yeah, he a rapper, but at the same time, he has a, he has, like, a unique sound, unique, like his music, you can kind of, you know,

you really can feel it. I don't know how they left him off of there. left him off of there. They say Drake don't write. Oh, does Kanye right? Oh, man. Just future right. Which one of them right? They got to do something. Ain't know what I mean.

Is it right, chat? The future right? They got to. Damn. Ain't no way in hell they just do one thing. Just right. They got baby face up here. Hey, baby face is the real deal, boy. They tell me about it. Yeah, baby faces the real deal. Now you want to

talk about some music? Who did? So you think, so you think, All these people up here, they're the only one, Kanye is the only one that works with a group. They work with a group. So everybody else, everybody else is by themselves. Just everything that they come out with, they wrote. They might have left Kanye off on purpose because he's so controversial.

Oh, so they use it against him. Yeah, but he, hey, he's controversial. I mean, big time, boy. I just feel like talent is talent, man. Yeah. You're right about that. That's the way we see it. That ain't the way they see it.

Does the dream? Does he write? Jazzy Fade, does he write? Hey, you remember Jazzy Faye, boy? What would you? No, old big Jazzy Faye. Oh, Jazzy. I don't see him all the time as Houston's up on,

on Lenny's Road. Yeah. Yeah. That Houston used to be jumping, boy. Jumping, man. I love that right there by the Creole, too, Joe. Man, he's going to get that, uh, that cheese bread. Yeah, yeah.

Boy, I used to eat. Man. Joe, you remember they had that chicken sandwich that Billmore Chay? And they had them a chicken, them chicken fingers. Them chicken fingers was off the chain. I don't know why they took them off the menu.

What, listen. Hey, when I played in Phoenix, we should, man, we should go to Houston's. Right, I know exactly, I know right there is Scottsdale. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, we should go. Every time I go, every time we play the car. We get into the car. We go into Houston.

Every time. As a matter of fact, when the Super Bowl was there, a couple years ago. She'll and I went. Hey, you ain't lying them chicken fingers off the chain. No. Some of these people I don't know.

I ain't on them hold you. I don't either. I don't know Josh Arsbar and Brandy Clark, Shane McNally. I know Fiona Apple. I know baby face. Carol King, Outcast, Mariah Kelly, Willie Nelson.

Valerie Simpson. She's one half of Asherit and Simpson, Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson. Bob Dylan, I know who he is. Oh, the Dream's on here. He's down here. Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Bad Bunny, Bruce Springsteen.

Yeah. Now's Rogers has been a bit at it a while. What was the name of his group? He was in a group early in the 80s. I know he was also with, Farrell Williams. What was the group he was with, Niles Rogers in the 80s?

I think it was a woman, a female group. Taste the honey. Cheek, chick, chick. Chick. Chick. C-H-I-C-Chic. Ah, freak out.

Yeah, that was him? That was him. Yeah, you make a good time to, yes. I'm looking him up now. Yeah. And he wrote, Eddie wrote for, uh, what you call him? Uh, uh, uh, he did some stuff.

He was a group with, uh, with Farrell Williams, too, I think. I think he was with Daft Punk, too. Yeah, I'm trying, I'm trying to think. I say, I think he, see if he was in the group Daft Punk with, uh, uh, no, I don't think Rob Temperton. I don't think he's American. I think he's a British guy. He might be American.

Oh, he, he. Huh? But what you call them in that group? Farrell and now Rogers? Oh, Dali. Dali Party. Jolene. Radio celebrates Asian Heritage Month.

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Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,

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And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball, like, After you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the ball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sean McVeigh opened tonight's press conference saying he got so many texts about last night post-draft news conference and wanted to clarify that he and GM, less need, couldn't be more locked step in every decision that we make. The Rams drafted Ty Simpson at number 13. and on McVey's brief response to the question and overall body language led some to speculate that he was unhappy with the Rams pick.

Ocho, do you believe? Sean McVeigh. Absolutely not. You know he was unhappy. He didn't like it. That came from upstairs. He didn't want that pig. That pick came from upstairs.

Listen, I like Ty Simpson. I like what he did, you know, at Alabama. It was cool. But he's not the one. Excuse me. Let me take this back. He's not one. that's going to be the successor

to goddamn Matt Stafford. He's just not. Most of the time you see quarterback come in, are they going to allow him to develop? Well, you just drafted a quarterback not long ago in Stetson Bennett, who you thought was going to be the one to be the successor. Obviously, he's not the answer,

and you're going on, now you draft another quarterback. That position, Joe, is one of the hardest unc to be able to find someone to evaluate because you don't know what you're getting until you put it in that situation under the gun and fire. It's very, very, very difficult. Very difficult. That's why so many teams struggle to find one.

So you have no choice but to pick someone that early. You have no choice. Because you don't want to wait, Joe. You don't want to be in quarterback purgatory like the Steelers are. You know, everyone's not going to be lucky like the Green Bay Packers. You're not going to be able to go from Brett Farb to Aaron Rogers,

Aaron Rogers to join love. It doesn't happen like that. They just, they got lucky. Look like they're going to have 50 years of quarterback, great quarterback play. Damn. You're right. You're right. I don't know.

I think the thing, because Sean McVeigh got, look, they got to be lockstep and barrow. Because Sean McVeigh got final safe, got a lot of safe. Sean McVeigh is just not a guy just, oh, he's the coach, and he ain't got no safe. He got a lot of safe. Yeah. So. I just don't think that was, that was, his body language, his mannerisms. When that, with that pick, you can tell that went over his head.

The Rams became the first team to have a quarterback win the MVP, then select the quarterback in the first round of the subsequent NFL draft since the Green Bay Packers did in 1967. The Bart Star won the award in 1966, and then Green Bay drafted Don Horn 25th overall the following year. I don't make no sense to me. It's a pick that makes no sense to me. Because Matt Stafford, with the way he's playing at an MVP level,

at 30 years old, ain't no telling when he's going to give up. Ain't no telling when he's going to stop. And people say, oh, his back was hurt in training camp last year. The devil is a lie. What, nothing wrong with him?

He threw 45 touchdowns. He threw 45 touchdowns. Hey, on. Now, you know good and well. We got load management in the NBA, right? Okay, you know what? My back hurt. I don't really need training camp.

I know what to do. We talked about Matt Stafford. He played a lot of football. Ain't nothing wrong with it. back. I mean, if you know, you know, I know what you're doing. You don't want training camp. You don't want to. No, when you look at it, when you look at it, I understand. And I think the thing is the people said, this is the problem in Green Bay ran into because instead of drafting somebody that could help Aaron Rogers right now, you drafted a quarterback that was going to be

two, three years away from playing. They see this is a very similar situation. I mean, what player that you thought they were going to be able to draft that was going to come in and say, it's okay, I mean, you got Devante, you got Puka, you got Kairn, you got, uh, uh, I'm just trying to figure who they, I mean, defense, they loaded, they loaded up on two corners. The safety is solid. The linebackers are really good. The D line is outstanding. You got verse, you got young.

You took the, uh, I forget the line was from, from Florida State Fisk. I'm just trying, I'm trying to figure out, Ocho, I mean, who do you think they could have taken that's going to come in right now and be a key contributor to this team. You know what? You know what? I do want to take something back, too. I want to take something back. Because the supporting cast and the defense is so good with Pooka and Devante Smith,

you could probably, you probably could plug Ty Simpson in. Probably could because the supporting cast around him is so goddamn good. McVeigh is such a genius when it comes to play calling. and being able to play to his player string. So whatever weaknesses Ty Simpson may have, maybe he can go in there and be efficient and be good.

He won't be Matt Stafford. No, but I'm saying he will have time to develop. No, he will have time to develop and get better playing behind an MVP caliber Super Bowl winning quarterback.

But I'm just basing everything off what I saw in college, Joe. That's all. You was okay at Alabama, but the bottom dropped out to the city. You know. That's all what I'm saying.

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I'll take as much as I can get. Let's go, ketchup. He would drive 57? He was driving for high as 57. Yeah, yeah. Damn. That's dope. That's, that's me.

I mean, how much you, how much ketchup, how much ketchup you think you guys have eaten in the lifetime? Yeah. Me? I don't, hey, I don't, I'm going to catch up on your hot dog. Oh, you eat hot dogs plain. Yeah, I eat my glissies. He's plain, huh? Even my French fry, when I go to McDonald's, I tell, tell, make sure it lightly salted.

Yeah, y'all ain't never had ketchup on your chips, like your lays chips or nothing like that. When I was younger. You didn't do it now? You used to put hot sauce on them, Joe. Yeah, we put hot sauce. You put ketchup on your chip. Yeah, man. Hey, I like me some ketchup now.

Ketchup on your chips. On some lays, on some lays chips. We used to put... I like lays. We used to put peanuts in the cocoa. Remember we put peanuts in the bottle, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you guess what? You drank all the Coca-Cola peanuts stuck at the bottom.

You never get them out. Hold on. Wait, where they do that at? Peanuts in your Coca-Cola? You have a, you know, Coke, those bottles. So you put peanuts in it. Yeah. Yeah.

You ain't ever do that, don't you? What did that? Hey, hey. I know, I ain't ever heard that. I know good and well, y'all put peanuts in y'all Coca-Cola. Hey, y'all ain't never mixed popcorn with your chips. Yeah. Ocho, you ain't never mixed popcorn with your chips?

Nah, I ain't never heard of that, Joe. We had, uh, I ain't never heard of this. I forget, what is it called? Gorp. But they put popcorn, peanut, and plain M&Ms, and raisers. We made, we had, we did, uh, that was what you call them. That was, you know, that wasn't us. That was them, they parents.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, we wouldn't get no, you wouldn't get no M&Ms. You wouldn't get no, you wouldn't get no popcorn, and you damn sure won't get no raisers. You might get one of the three, but you damn sure wasn't getting all three. Right, right.

Right. I think it's called Gorpe or something, but I don't know, but I'm saying, I think I was like the second or third grade and somebody parents brought that together. I was like, damn, y'all living it up over there, ain't it?

Man, what I didn't get done to that? We got the wide, and y'all remember the wise potato chips? You weren't getting no lades. You weren't getting no ruffles. You weren't getting that good stuff. Yeah. You got the wild with the owl on the back.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what he called. Yeah. But they made, it wasn't, It wasn't back then. I think they do it now, but it wasn't made. They made it. So those days, what?

What? What you laughing at you? I'm saying, that what they did? Yeah, see? Y'all don't know about that. See, they're going to talk about, see, what they do, what people started doing is things that we started concocting, they started making it. They started making it.

There you go. That's what they started doing. There you go. We were doing that. They wasn't even thinking about that. Stole our ideas. State wide receiver, Ocho and Joe just bought his dream car. He isn't even eligible for the NFL until the next draft.

Just five months away from turning 21 years of age, Smith picked up at 2026, Labrugini Horace starting at $250, a quarter of a million, which is pocket change when you consider he's one of the highest-paid NIL athletes in the country with a valuation of $4.2 million, thanks to deals with Adidas, Red Bull, Lulu, Lemon, and Nintendo. Oh, Joe, Joe. If N-I-L were around when you was in college, what you called?

Hey. I ain't going to lie. Let me tell you something. I'm going to have me some fly. See, when I was in college, y'all know what came out. What came out was them expeditions and the navigators. That's what came out when I was in college. They were the hardest thing.

Hey, Joe, remember excursions? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had this came out around. time like 2001, 2000, so everybody was getting them. But yeah, hey, hey, Ocho, you make a four point something million in college? Hey, get your little euros, a little Lambo or something, boy. Hey, I probably would have caught me something like that now. Yeah, I ain't going to act like that.

Hey, I'm just by the turn 21 and you mean, boy? No, I'm going to get, yeah, I'm like, hey, hey, ball out, Jeremiah. Shit. Hey. Yeah. Ooh. What's you getting, huh? Put the things on now

Hey, hey, you know, I had a little sup I had a little sup, bro, hooked me up, I had a 300, a ZX, you know what I'm saying? T-T-T, you know, this is T-Tops, you know, I had a little thing, you know, I had a little thing, then I see you had a 300 bins, you know, I had a little some, some, yeah.

But imagine if you had four million, you know, on your own, you making them. Oh, I have a sports car. Oh, yeah, yeah, hello. You know back then, those big five-60 Mercedes was out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, big body.

500 series, yeah. Yeah. Probably something like that because I ain't really know, I ain't really know nothing about no little, like, I ain't, I had never seen a Ferrari up close in person, never had seen a Lamborghini,

so I probably wouldn't even, probably, you know what was out too? No, I rock Z's. Remember no I rock Z? Yeah, yeah, I remember I rock. Yeah, I think nowadays, you got so many of these young cats

driving these Lambos and Rose Russ's here. You know, these kids see all that. They want that big, they want that big boy. Yeah, for sure. Ant Liz and all that. Yeah. Yeah. What did you get, Nocho?

Hey. You died in Miami. Oh, you know, you're in Oregon. So you're in Oregon State. What do you get? I still got that Miami mentality. And knowing me having that kind of money, Unk, the first thing I would, I would have did,

being a little shorty, being a Jit, I would have got me as Chevy. I was going to say you get the don't or Bob, Chevy regardless. Hey, I'm getting, I'm getting here a dump. 73 convertible top, you know, on some all. all gone to ease.

That's just the mindset, especially when I'm that young, where I wouldn't be choosing, you know, nothing foreign. But my first car, I would want it. I won a damn Chevy. Yeah. Yeah, boy. Yeah, but I don't know. Hey, I might have to get me something with a pass for it.

You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, I don't need to get me something with a pass for it. Hey. Yeah. But, hey, that ain't going to be the first car. The first part, we'll go, hey, man, port of it. Definitely were getting them out of there. You're getting out of around four bucks three.

You hear me? Well, listen. Boy, these kids bawling out of control. Man. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, they need some real helping guidance, too, bro. Because, you know, you get with the stories that I hear about guys coming out, had that NIL, and they're seven figures to the tax man.

Think about it, though. Think about it if you come from, you know, a family whose parents never had this type of money. Hell, it ain't just you spending. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But just the thought, I'm just, I'm just thinking about that, boy. You can't imagine. You can't even imagine.

Man, me, hey, me pulling up to the game and I got there a Chevy boy with that old trick daddy playing, that 2000 trick. Hey, I know one, I know. You had that flip, you have that flip-plot playing on that thing, Ocho. That who? That flip-flop paint. That comedian. Oh, you remember that comedian, you remember that?

I'm looking at that filth up. Hey, I'll have mine that bowling ball. That thing will be looking like the old bowling ball with that shine on it. Hey, I know one thing when you get your ass on that field, you better be cutting up. Oh, you know,

I'm going to cut up, Joe. You know I'm a cut up, Joe. I ain't got no choice. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's the one thing you got to understand as a young player. Hey, it's good to have all these things, you know, these materialistic things.

But don't forget, don't forget why you're here now. How you got it. And how you got it. Don't forget. You lose that edge, you lose a little bit of that drive. Yeah. Hey, you know back in the, hey, I pull up to the game,

had that little 300 C. You know, after the game, old lady, you know, when we get the thing, you know, I had to go shower, you know. I couldn't take no shower. I had to go back to the door shower. Then we go out and get a little something to eat. You know what I said, no choke.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I was bawling a little bit, a little bit. What? Bro had to hook that fangs up. Four ems, bro. In college, 20 years old. Yeah, we're going to carry here. You were getting that, getting them gizzles,

pride to carry here to go to Rines, you know, a little something. Man. That was, whew. Man, I still, man, I'm thinking about it, too, boy. What you're thinking about? I mean, back then, and, you know, you know,

them, I'm going to just say the D boys. You know, the boy had them Chevy's, and them goddamn Dooley. Yeah. They were cutting up. Man, boy. Man, them Ford and Ford, Super Duty F4 50s and

350s. I thought about getting what you call them, that Shelby. Yeah, that Shelby should pick up a truck show? You was, I went 10th drove. That's the only car I've ever Ted's drove. I'm like, man, I might get this thing here. A Shelby.

That Shelby, yeah. The one from the movie going to 60 seconds? No, it's a Shelby. Yeah, I know what he's talking about. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Nah, I ain't talking about that 427. I think you're talking about that Eleanor, though.

Yeah, Eleanor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that must say. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the Super Chat, we got five video voicemail from my discreet. Let's take a listen.

Unk, Ocho, Joe, what's good with y'all, man? It's Fallout Media. I'm back here again, man. Unk, Joe, I'm mad than the motherfucker. Ocho, I'm mad. Man, I'm mad. I'm mad. Y'all see Lakers locked in,

goat jams. I locked in. I'm locked in. Me and you, we're here. Hey, man. This was terrible, man. This was terrible, man. This was terrible.

Austin Reeves. One thing about Austin Reeves so far, the last couple playoffs, he showed me something. He's showing me something. He's not ready. I don't know if he got that door. in the month. Do we got that dog in the monk? What's going on? Oh, Joe, Joe. How often can we rely

on the thunder missing all these threes? How often can we rely on the thunder turning the ball over at this rate? How often can we rely on that? I'm mad, Nightcat family. I'm mad than the buff. I'm mad, y'all. No, I'm mad because it's some straight-up BS. This is a game you got to win. This is a game when the best team in the NBA play this bad, you got to win it. I'm sorry, y'all. I'm just mad i'm mad he mad joe i'm how you mad you knew what i you knew what the outcome now but they had a chance though ultra

that's what he's like it's kind of like they got teased a little bit that that's what it is it's like man we played we played pretty decent first quarter yeah second quarter until the last what a couple minutes and then outside of that you know you get down eight to 12 points you can't come back and like like like like he said. Hell, he seemed to turnovers that,

that, uh, that She had who, like, like Aung say, they held Shee under 20 points and I don't know how damn long. 20 points.

So you get this opportunity. Damn, you just, Brun just needed a little help. He just needed some, he needed AR to, you know, be a little efficient.

I understand. So he, he just wanted to feel good the night then. Yeah. Well, I mean, you got to know,

what it is. I'm not what he's in. Man said he's mad, oh, I know, I'm, I'm just saying. but also outside of being mad,

you also have to be realistic, you know, going into the series, understanding, you know, there's a good chance, you know, we might not win a game. You're playing the best team. You're playing the best team out the goddamn West. So.

I think what Joe said, and we talked about it, we didn't expect them to play this man. I mean, think about it. How many shots? Shailing went to the line three times. Yeah. And look at all the threes.

Look at all the turnovers they had. Yeah. And they still be. beat you by 18. And they only had 108 points. You know they're going to have a couple of them games where they got 1 30, 140. Yes.

And you know if they get to that 130 week. The game need to be at 100. Yeah. Because that's your best chance of winning. You're not going to outscore them. And the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, you just said it too, right? Shea didn't have a huge game, you know, offensively. One of the few games we didn't score 20.

Hell, he didn't score 30. But hell, everybody else contributed to. everybody else contributed too. So even if he does have an off-like, hey, you still got to deal with everybody else. That's the time that you're like, okay, Austin, to think about it. LeBron took a back seat to Austin.

He took a back seat. You know why? You know why? Because he knew it's going to take him a little while to find his rhythm in time and after missing the first, what, 15, 17 games. games. Yeah, he knew it's going to take him a little wild. The same with AR, bro. It takes, it takes a little time.

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