Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 1: Shedeur QB1, Grandpa Rivers in Indy, and Pickens SORRY?!

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the Best of NFL! Unc and Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders being named Browns QB1, Phillip Rivers coming out of retirement at 44 to join the Colts, and debate if George Pickens will ever apologize to Richard Sherman after his viral rant. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Shedeur Sanders named QB114:32 - Philip Rivers coming out of retirement27:52 - Titans reporter removed from team plane43:01 - George Pickens apologizes over effort in Lions loss54:50 - Chiefs, “Can’t find answers” (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories. All right, Ocho, but here's the deal. The Browns, if finally names Chudor, their starting quarterback for the rest of the season. No more week-to-week bull-jive. Here's what Tafansky had to say about it today.

I think all along, Mary Kay, as you know, with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure they're making the right decisions for our guys. And I think he's,

he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each one of these games and how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard. So I feel good about where his development is heading, he knows there are always going to be plays that he can be better and those type of things. But he's very intentional about getting better each and every game he's out there.

Kevin, hi. Was it a mistake not to start Shadur earlier? Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things, Tony. I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us. I mean, that's a good, that's a good thing. It's better when he can actually get on the field and show you what it can do. Yes. Standing on the side, flipping the ball and going through his dropbacks when he ain't throwing to nobody. Right. Look, Ocho.

Yeah. I want to hear what you got to say on this. I mean, I was just going to say it's a good thing. There's no more confusion. You're not looking over your shoulder. You can go out there. You can lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation.

You say it all the time. I've said it all the time. And that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life in general. when preparation meets opportunity and when opportunity meets preparation this is what you get you get games like this so the more

the more he gets to to jail and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and his receivers and his office alignment the better he's going to look on the field

and just to think about it if I think about what he would look like if you look like this in his third game what do you think it would look like if you've been playing all season long there's nothing we can do about

that all we can do is think about and starve and we'll be all right now. The game you had last week, what you want to do is you want to bill off of that. Bill off for that and continue to go forward. Finish the season off strong. So they have no choice. So they have no choice. Even if you might be auditioning for another team, listen, we can take him. But if he can do what he's doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, imagine if we were able to bring him in here where we have a better supporting cast to put around

him. So I think he's auditioning still if he's not going to be in. Cleveland next year. He's auditioning for another job somewhere else where he can be the starter and not have to worry. I agree. Can Stefansky not say sure? Is S-H words? Is that out of his

vocabulary? Because why can't he just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name? Why do I say when we're dealing with young players? You know, I think should do it. I think should do it's progressed very, very well. You know, you know why. I like I like what I've seen. Even though when he wasn't playing,

you can tell a guy that's being very attentive, the guy that's very attention to detail. You see the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings. You see the way he goes about his business at practice, although he wasn't getting reps with the starters, and he didn't start getting reps to later in the season. Yeah. It's okay.

Excuse me. It is okay to admit we made a mistake. Right. It's okay to say, you know what? Yeah, maybe if things look different, we all have the luxury of hindsight. It's a magnificent science. We have the luxury of knowing today

what we didn't know yesterday. I get that and I get your questions and all your questions are very, very valid. But if I were to answer you her question, if I would ask the reporter's question and honesty, now I look bad. This organization looked bad. And I don't want that.

Right. You see what you just did? did you see how you answered that question so eloquently? Not only did you answer eloquently you threw a word in there I don't know what the hell it meant so that's why I raised my finger

and I wanted you to go back to that because what kind of notes did he take again? Copious. Ooh. Hey, you're a bit of a saris, huh? But the other thing is people have a hard time and I get it. It's hard

because we don't like to be wrong. And if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit that we're wrong. But I think it shows growth. I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and we're man or we're woman enough to say that I was wrong, that wish we could have done something differently. Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong. And you have to be man or woman enough to say that I was wrong in order for you to sincerely,

in order for you to have growth. Now, if he didn't want to ask, I think we know the answer. Chad, I think we know the answer. Why he didn't want to answer that, was it a mistake not to start him? Because I would like to think their record would be better than what it was. Now, it could be, Chad. I mean, now we're sitting here saying they could have won probably two more games given that you door. Maybe they don't win no more games.

Maybe they have the identical record. We'll never know. But it's hard. hard to get somebody admit when they're wrong. And we see in real time what's actually happening. And we see and a whole lot of guys. Think about it. He's got probably the, I think, the fourth or the fifth most passing yards by

a rookie quarterback that wasn't taken in the first round. That's crazy. That's crazy. So, it's, it's, I'm glad he's getting an opportunity. start the teams that he's up the bears the nine and four they're playing in chicago the next game the bills nine and four playoff team Steelers at home uh the division leader and then they finish on the road at your four at your bingles which could have some playoff implications um for the bingles not for obviously cleveland's not going anywhere um it and also all depends all depends on

what were they trying to do oh joe did they start like this because they tried to trying to get draft. They're trying to get positioned for the draft. What were they

hoping? Because you know Joe Flacko is what Joe Flacko is. You know now. I mean, the guy's 40-plus years old.

You know what he is. He's streaky. He'll win your game or two. But he's always been and always has been always will be a turn-over machine. That's what he is. Yeah.

I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine. We've been trying to figure out what the Browns have been doing with their organization for a very long time not just this year but the past 30-some years especially at the quarterback position they haven't got it right in a very long time and and still to this day still to this day they still haven't answered that question and no the one that looks like

it might be promising they still have an issue with that so it looks like what they're trying to do based on some of the things that we've seen some of the things that we've heard come out of that out of that locker room or that organization in general, they still don't think the person that is at the helm right now is the answer. They don't. Yeah. I mean, and I really hate to feel this way,

but a part of me is like, yeah, we're going to let him start the rest of the season. Oh, Bears, Bills, Steelers, bingles. If I was to do, I'm like, no, I'm good. I already showed y'all what I can do. Put Dillon in there. Nah, you know what he can do? Nah, I want him to play against the Bears.

I want him to play against the bills I want him to play against the Steelers because I want him to show that I'm a competent quarterback and I'm to compete at the highest level as a rookie if given the right amount of time to prepare. Right.

That's what I want him. I want him to have a... Oh, no, no, no. You want, oh, Joe, but this is not a mistake. They picked these games and they... Why could you name his ass to start three games ago? Why was it week to week?

Because every... You know what? Every time he doesn't want to ask a question. he always said well I don't want to get into that right I don't want to get into that because they ask you they ask him before which it should do or go to start well I don't want to get to that let's look at the film and all that bro you know wait wait no no no that's not true that's not true because after the first game and they asked him is he going to start the next game he wanted to see if he could do it again what is he going to look like again if he looked bad

what's the first thing you think sir fancy was going to do he's going to put Dylan Gabriel back in there That's why he had to, all right, I don't want to answer that right now. I don't know, but Chador gave you no choice. Man, could you imagine after you played, after you played this game, after he played this last game in the game before that, if he was the bench, you took Bench Chadour, you're talking about losing your locker room. Hey, listen, at that point,

I guarantee you one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee you one of the veterans who spoke out. They probably are already speaking out. I mean, it ain't It ain't get out in the public yet No, no I mean, you know And I think the thing is look

The last thing that you want to do Because Dylan is still your teammate It's not his fault You can never blame a player For an organization or a coach's decision I can't get mad at you Because they put his ass in there I can't get mad at him

Because this organization drafted him before me That had nothing to do with me I wish him the best I'm going to support him as best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But I tell you, in a couple of years, you're going to wish you, like, damn, I'm glad we took this guy in the seventh round.

We probably should have taken him early. Yeah. So I'd never begrudged the guy because they didn't draft themselves. Dillon Gabriel didn't draft themselves. All I'm happy now, and for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion. Yeah. Did it take longer than I think it should have? Yes, I think most people believe that it took longer than what it should have.

But at the end of the day, they got it right. I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have. Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick on. Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick, and he was the successor to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on, automatically, Dylan Gabriel goes into the lineup, and it's time to see what he can do. It didn't go well. It didn't go well. Now it's your do it's time to see what they can do.

Yep. That's all. And he's only going to get better. I mean, he's going to have some growing pains. He's not going to, I don't see him throwing for 364 and four, having four touchdowns every game. But I tell you what, all I need to see is improvement. All I need to see, and I saw some stuff late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes that he made earlier, that he self-corrected. That's when you know a guy gets it.

When you can self-correct on the fly, Ocho. Mm-hmm. Oh, he get it. Yeah. Oh, he definitely gets it. All we want to see. I mean, excuse me. In that organization, as a head coach, as a GM, as teammates,

not only improving week to week, but giving us a chance. Give us a chance so we can compete week in and week out. That's all you want. And that's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent can you be? offensively to give us a chance. That's it.

Yeah. So if you do it's your ball, pick it up and run with it, bro. Do what you do. You got four games. These last four games is about, you know what, we got our guy. We got our guy. Let's go in the draft

and get an offensive lineman, a receiver, a linebacker or, no, I like that's linebacker. That rookie linebacker, number 49, he hale. Maybe get somebody go opposite of a, I don't know. But Chador's job is to show them they don't need a quarterback. Yeah. That's his job.

Yep. And then build a team how they best see. I don't know if we should trust them to build a team. But I just think the thing is, Ocho, is that we just, show them, show them that you got the right guy, because he said it, I'm want to show I'm what they've been looking for.

I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a lot of stones. And you know, sometimes, Ocho, you got to kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. absolutely so they've had 35 had damn near as many money many quarterbacks

as we've had you as presidents yeah but but uh uh should do it says it starts with me it stops with me no more you're gonna have you're gonna have peace and prosperity for the next decade i like it i like it hey matter fact yeah hey um uh uh I'm wondering if the chat The chat heard about that too You heard about Damn I mean this is sad for me

Mr. Cupp You heard about Mr. Cuck? No Yeah man His wife left him Oh Lord, here we go Yeah Now he's a solo cup

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of signing the eight-time pro bowler. Rivers, who's 44 and became a grandfather in recent years, has not played the NFL since 2020. However, the coats are sitting at 8 and 5 in to think of an AFC playoff race. They peaked Rivers' interest. They piqued Rivers' interest enough to him to contemplate potentially coming out of retirement. Oh, look, he's like one of the nominees for the whole, right?

yeah wow if rivers were to join the coach after active rosters uh it presents a very unique scenario regarding his potential induction to the pro football hall of fame rivers is one of the 26 modern era players who are semi-finals for the 2026 class yet the moment he joins an active roster his eligibility clocks it resets doesn't it yeah and he would have to wait an additional five years hmm i mean listen I like it. I like it for him. I like the opportunity for him.

Even though he's 44 as a quarterback, I think the Eagles are still in a good position to make the playoffs. You need the quarterback. Huh? You mean the Colts. Who did I say? Eagles. Oh, my bad.

The coach are in a good position to still make the playoffs. We need someone, a quarterback that's a veteran, that give us a veteran presence, that can throw the ball, that can command the offense. be a leader and keep us afloat. Oh, so why didn't he stay? They wanted him to come, they wanted him to come back.

So why did he leave if he still had interest? He wanted to go back. Well, maybe he didn't have interest. Maybe now after four years he wanted to come back and play. After five years. Okay, five. Oh, that's him. Hey, he rested up, shoulder's good,

throwing motion, everything good, bodies healed up a little bit. Man, he might come back and go crazy out there, man. No, he's not. You don't think so? No. I mean, can he throw the ball? Sure.

Oh, yeah. But the thing is, he has no mobility. Yeah. No, no. He has zero mobility. He has even less mobility. He really never had any mobility. So imagine him at 44.

Yeah. Hey, he gets slinging that rock, even though he got a funny, he got a funny throwing motion. He's going to let it rip. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, what, 60,000 yards, 400 plus, what, 420-something touchdowns? Yeah, he was a hell of a player.

He was. I mean, listen. It's disappointed they didn't win more than what they want. Right. You figure they got Gates in the Hall of Fame, L.T.'s in the Hall of Fame. He's on the ballot for the Hall of Fame. I mean, one year they finished number one offense and defense and didn't even make the playoffs. Go figure.

Damn. I mean, Kat was right there. Oh, Cam was right there too. Cam ain't no way in there 44. Can I don't want to play no football. Camber didn't told y'all he didn't want to play no football. Let that sink in. So what did I tell you?

Anthony Richardson. Let that sink in now. A man that got 10 kids, got grandkids that's been retired from the NFL for five years. You sitting on that bitch they took you with the third overall pick three years ago. What does that say about you? Yeah. He's a liar. Oh, is he?

Yeah. Oh, that's right. He had his shoulder. His shoulder game. My bad, bro. Huh? He broke his orbital. Yeah.

When? Oh, that band. Was it the band? Yes. Yeah. Damn, the Coles have some terrible ass look. They just got Ward back. Remember, Ocho?

He collided on the field? Yeah. He just got back. They gave him. two number one picks for sauce sauce out with a calf injury they paid all this they uh Daniel Jones

and now he hurt you got Achilles yeah they went Ocho they went all in all in with sauce gave up two number ones for him yeah 15 million for Daniel Jones and it seemed like it was money well spent it's over

I don't I don't think Philip Rivers is the answer I don't Well, you got, Uncle, you got to give him a chance first. You got to give him a chance. Hey, you got to give him a chance. Him at 44 might be better than some of the product we see in lately. But, hold on, I'm surprised, Ocho, I fractured my orbital, and I was out three weeks. Right.

The season ended, but they had cleared me to play. How did, how, what's his name? Anthony Richardson, fractured his orbital and he gone for like two weeks. You know them people don't, you know, you already know what to get. You know what the play is with that. No, they don't know. But, Ocho, I would want him, I would, actually, Ocho, I would want him practicing because I want him to see it in real time.

I don't want him away. And he might still be there. But, Ocho, I, honestly, you know you can't get Ocho, you need to be in uniform. You need to be practicing. Take the month to recover. Right. But I, I don't like this. Because I missed three weeks.

I fractured my orbital, Ocho. It's painful. But I was cleared after three weeks to come back and play. Now, the season ended. The season ended, they just told me I need to wear a shield because, you can't afford to get it in the eye again. Right. Okay, clearly.

But I think he wears a shield anyway. Yeah. He's not touching the field regardless. You think it's over for him? him in Indy? Yeah. Really? The way Daniel Jones has been playing, really?

Come on. Okay, but Daniel Jones hurt. Now he got Achilles. And he's the third string quarterback. He's not the second string quarterback, which is why they're bringing it in Phillip Rivers. Huh? I said, that would have been the perfect opportunity for Anthony Richardson to play.

They gave the opportunities already. So he's done. Well, it's not me. I'm not part of the organization. I'm just saying, I mean, the right is on the wall. Isle Leonard is from the hometown that Philip Rivers is from. Philip Rivers is his mentor. So he's been working with him.

He worked with him in the offseason. Right. And that's crazy. Shane Stacking was asked about AR today and said he's not sure if Anthony Richardson would be able to return before the season's over. Says right now he's not ready. I told you, Ocho. Well, you didn't say it was...

No damn season long entry. you just you just see i just told you that huh i just said that ohcho oh what did he get hurt it ain't even about getting hurt he's saying he's not ready he i don't think he talked about the injury i know he's not he just but think about that ohcho but think about that let that figure for a second ocho you're a backup receiver you're backer you're back up receiver you 24 years old and they call they call uh landfiz gerald to come out of retirement you're right there on the roster uh he had two years he had two years so hold on ocho the man got hurt on october the 12th so eight basically eight weeks ago

Yeah, yeah. And you, uh, sport tracks, you look at guys that are on the current NFL practice squad, IR. Trevor Simeon is Tennessee, who's been a starter, Sam Hartman, Cole McCord. I mean, Brett Rippin is Indiana. He was a starter in Denver. C.J. Betherd. Sam Ellinger. Will Greer is in Dallas.

Bailey Zappy. Damn. Yeah, when you have an order for, yeah, hell, yeah. Yeah, your mission is going to be temporarily in their player. And I had it. Absolutely. I was seeing triple. Yeah.

But you already know what the play is with that, man. Anthony, I mean, they gave him opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. He didn't do anything with him. And I think they just don't see a situation where giving him another opportunity to prove himself would work. There's a reason why they signed Danny Dimes that one year, that 14. Oh, we understood that. At that point, you know, that ship is sale. What?

Damn. He saw his first coach game, so he hadn't been at practice. The doctors advised him to stay at home and rest. I don't know. Every injury is different. So I shouldn't, you know, I'm just telling you, I had the injury. Three weeks, I was cleared. They just told me, and the whole next year, Ocho, I wore a shield.

Right. Because I could ill afford it. It's kind of like Anthony Davis got to wear goggles. Right. Because the doctor says if you get poked in the eye one more time, you might end up losing vision in that eye. Same thing with Corrie. So I get it.

I get it. Oh, Chos! Early I gave you good news. Now you end up a bad. Nah, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me get comfortable. Damn. Okay, go ahead.

The Bengals will be without defensive end, Trey Hendrickson for the rest of the season. He's expected to. undergo core muscle surgery. He suffered the injury back in week six. Then it hasn't played since week eight after he sustained a hip injury. There was hope he would return at some point this season, but that won't be the case.

Well, what's the bad news? He ain't coming back. Well, um, but, but yeah, he ain't been there the past few weeks anyway. Oh, okay. My bad. I thought you was going to miss him. I mean, hell. I mean, he's been hurt, huh?

He's been on the shelf. So that core muscle probably that sports hernia surgery. From living, that's probably living too damn heavy. That's what I need, see, man, that's why I need to be, all these injuries, man, it just. Oh, Joe, that man, that man is a defensive lineman. He can't be eating no little vittles. He can't be no vegetarian eating that stuff.

They root his ass up out of there. Nah, that ain't what I'm talking about, man. Like, they, okay, if you're not going to listen to me as a nutritionist, at least listen to me as a strength and conditioning coach. Hell, don't know. At least, like, come on, man. You still, y'all be laughing and making fun of me. Oh, I played all of me years with no injuries, man.

People, like, it's not registering, man. And they keep, they keep listening to all these damn specialists and all these professionals, but for some reason, everybody keep getting hurt non-contact injuries they're pulling this they tearing that like come on man oh cho you just fortunate

hey hey listen ain't ain't nothing fortunate winning the lottery is fortunate what I was able to do that ain't um for God yes yes and you didn't get hurt

that's ridiculous I can't man I'd have ran out You play this game of football. It's hard. You're very fortunate. You're one of the few that played this game and didn't really have any injuries. And you walked up the field as healthy as you walked on it.

Yeah. Because I was the one delivering the punishment, huh? I was delivering the punishment. I was the savage. I was that boy out there, man. I know I was kiki and ha-ha and entertaining. But man, I was an animal out there, man. I had them boys scared, man.

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because I told you this was going to happen. The Tennessee Times from the sideline reporter, Will Bowling, has been removed from the team's charter, flights going forward. Bowling shared something that he witnessed on the plane ride of a trip home from Cleveland after week 14. Bowling addressed the situation during his daily radio show and apologize for relaying the story

and that has now understands he should have been considered off the record. Yes. Everything that you, if they're not speaking directly to you, it's off the record. Yeah. You don't get to go. You don't get to go on the team playing.

Do you know how many reporters have seen things on a team playing? Well, who's late or who's, maybe there's been a fight. Maybe there've been some things shouldn't have been going on because back there we used to have them little portable DVDs

and guys be watching things they shouldn't be watching yeah guys be drinking and things of that nature you keep your mouth shut yeah he got to learn the hard way

now you got to fly find your all the way to the city and guys are going to be like man we can't trust old boy because old boy go

they're going to be like yeah hey listen for one you give an opportunity to who have access to be around, to be on those charter flights,

and you can't just take everything you see and try to use it to your advantage and make it a story. Now you're outside, no, outside the window looking, peeking through the blinds. Yeah. Now, I'm not even sure where they,

I mean, for years going forward, were they probably, were they, were they? Probably not. He probably won't be allowed on. He probably will not be allowed back on the plane. Now you, now you didn't mess up. Yep. You don't messed up a good opportunity just to have a story.

Yes. Oh, I give you a prime example. I remember Peyton Manning's first year. Was his first year? Yeah, first year in Denver. Yeah. We're doing the story. And I watch him practice.

Yeah. He hadn't had this all year. He's throwing with a glove. Yeah. Oh, it was cold, huh? but remember he had that nerve damage. But prior to that, he had been throwing bare-handed. Right.

I see him. He's practicing with a glove. I see all these gloves in his locker. It would have been nothing for me to take a pair. He got 20 of him in his locker. Right. Put him in my bag and says, guys, this is what Peyton Manning is going to be throwing the football with today. Oof.

It would have been a great story. Shannon Braves News, Peyton Manning. It's sure enough. He comes out there throwing, like, oh, but no, bro, everything ain't meant to be said. Yeah, yeah. Everything. Plus, that is my team. And they trust me, I got free reign, don't you?

I go anywhere I want to. I know the code. I punch the code. And they don't let me in. I punch the code and go in. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I go where I want to go. I go upstairs.

I go to Mr. Bowling's office. I go walking around. I'm in coaches. I go to John Fox. I go to jobs. I go everywhere. I see. So we're the same.

With the access you have, in Denver is the same way I am down there in Cincinnati. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, you know, I think why we have that access, the way you do and for me, it's always arms are always open and welcome because I don't take advantage of it, huh?

I only go there, maybe twice a year. Maybe twice a year, you know, that's it. And I think if, I think knowing the access that I do have and the love that they do show in that stadium where I can go from top to bottom and I can go anywhere I want. Anywhere.

If I did it all, the goddamn time, they'd be like, all right, now. Yeah, you're abusing. Come on now. Let me take that back on show. I used to be able to do that. I ain't got that. I don't have that access anymore now.

Oh, no? I don't know. I don't go back. They invite me back for alumni things and the, you know, the Super Bowl team and stuff like that. When guys get to go into the ring of honor, I haven't been back. I'll have a great relationship. I met the Walton's. I met the Penners.

I met all of them. They were great to me. had a great conversation, but I don't know them like I knew Mr. Bowling. I would like to get to know them. You know, maybe I take some time and I go back and, you know, sit down and have a conversation with them. Right. But I'm like you, Ocho, I'm never going to wear out my welcome.

Even though I had the access that I had, I didn't go back and take advantage of it. You know, I would go back when they invited me. But when it came time for the Super Bowl, you damn best believe, hey. Yeah, you was there? Yeah. What? Listen, hey, you know I'm excited. You know I'm excited.

So obviously, most of the time, I was doing one a year. Since I retired, one game a year. I always made it, made it out to one game a year. This will be the first year since I retired and what was that, I mean, since they left there. Since I left here. Yeah, so you left there. Where I'm going to a second game. Right.

I'm going to a second game. Obviously, I'm not counting the Ravens game. I'm not counting the Ravens game, you know, Thursday night on Thanksgiving. Right. But this Sunday, I'm going back. I'm going back for the Ravens game. And, I mean, it's just, just what, what, the warmth and the welcome and the grace that they've shown me when I am no longer any value to you.

I'm no longer any value to you. And they still treat me that, whether it be the fans, whether it be ownership, Zach Taylor, whether it be the players, with open arms. It's like I'm, and the fact that they still treat you like that when you're no longer of any value. I'm not on the payroll. Right. I'm not on the payroll. I don't get a check in there.

I think the fans appreciate that. Fans, fans know who guys that really cared, that played their ass off that gave everything they possibly had, left nothing on the field. And when they left, they're like, you know what? We got everything shining a sharp head. We didn't ever had to worry about 84, because we know 8'4 was going to give it to us.

Yes, sir. It became difficult on show because I worked at, I worked at CBS for a decade. So how am I going to get, I'm in New York, how am I going to get back? I went back when they put me into the Ring of Fame in 2009. I went back again in 2011 when they put me, I got my, received my ring for my Hall of Fame.

But it was hard for me to get back because I'm working. I can't, hey, you know what? You know, the Broncos really wanted me to come back. I can't miss work like that. And then I started working at Fox undisputed for seven years. And it was hard. And I went back, I think I went back once. But it's really hard, Ojo, to go back.

when I got to watch all these games and I'm at one game even though you know they got it on you know Mr. B like you know Sharpie what game you want to watch and I was like don't worry about it Mr. B so it's really hard

it's hard for me to talk about something on show if I don't see it I need to see it so I can tell you the intricacies of what actually happened the design of the play to make up the defense X Y and Z so that's that's really the main reason

I don't really attend events with other events are going on because I need to be able to tell you what actually happened. And speaking of being able to tell you what actually is going to happen, I'm going to tell you, your Ravens are going to lose again. Ah, there you go.

I'm just saying every game I'm in attendance too, you do understand. I went to the Thursday night game. Joe Burroughs' first game back. You see what happened. You see what happened, right? And this, I got another. You got your, Ravens, I got your boy.

You know, you're Ravens fan. I got Butter. I'm not sure if you've seen some of the clips that Butter makes some time. I haven't seen it. Listen, Butter State Way in Seattle. Unk, I didn't got Butter a ticket, right? Yeah. I didn't got Butter a ticket.

I'm talking about he, he's a huge Ravens fan. He fly in tomorrow. Okay. He flying, yeah, he flying to Cincinnati tomorrow. I'm going to meet him out there Friday evening, and I'm allow him to see greatness in person. Okay. I want him to see greatness in person.

I want him to be able to, I want him to be, because he, streams and increase content. I want his content to be authentic and organic. Yeah. I want right there. I want him right there front and center, you know, watching the Ravens lose, you know, and I want him to cry.

I want him to cry. So we can see, I don't, you know, you know, one thing about it, it's very hard for me to talk about people. It's very difficult for me. I can be critical. Yeah. I can critique players,

but I wanted to see 77 person. I wanted me to see, 77 in person and to see why Lamar is going to be frustrated, why he's going to get sacked, why he's going to be running for his life, and the bangles are coming away with another win and one step closer to winning the AFC

North that hasn't gone in our favor all season long. Yeah. But for this gentleman, Ocho, I don't know. He's got to be young because no veteran reporter would ever do something like this. You think he's young? He's got to be young. I mean, I I'm not saying I'm not maybe

age wise, but it'd be interesting to know how long he's been in this capacity doing this job. That's understood. Oh, so we got women on the plane. I mean, we have women reporters. Lynn De Bruin, rest of soul, Lynn was great.

She was great. She would always come to me. I was like, Lynn, do you not have, she's like, Michelle, are you going to give it to me straight? I know, but somebody else might give it to you straight, too. You don't want to get it from them? But she was she was always, she was always great and we were always respectful

and I made sure guys were respectful of her, especially women. Sage Steele. Her first job was with the rape, you know, as a reporter was with the rape. Right. Okay. And all that, you know, stuff that, you know, she's, obviously she's attractive. No, boy, we're not going to do that.

That lady's going to do her job. And we're going to allow her to do her job and we're going to be professional. Yeah. That's what we're going to do. She'll tell you. Ask her. She'll tell you. No, we're going to be professional. That's not the way we do things. Right. But on the plane

Ocho, you're like, look, we gamble, we play a card for money, and then, you know, obviously they got to go to the bathroom, Ocho, they couldn't go to first class because that's where the coaches were. So they had to come by and we move out the way, and Mike just say, uh, 84. Can we not gamble on the plane?

You know, hey, y'all get to the room, have that it, you play your cards, you know, play cards, roll your dice, but can we not? Okay. Done. now the only thing that I really got I don't really get mad at mad animals get mad humans get upset I don't really get

upset because Mike was like Mike was like obviously he let the vets handle the stuff and we did a great job I think the the committee the committee that was in charge of you I thought we did a very good job of dealing with stuff before it got big enough to eat that Mike would have to intervene

right Mike said it was brought to his attention, and I know who told him, the flight attendants did. Oh, Joe, you remember the portable DVD? Chat, I know y'all remember the portable DVDs. Yeah, the big, it was kind of big a little bit. Yeah, they were looking at the bottom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What y'all were watching? What y'all were watching? They know y'all, first of all, I had one, but, man, you, y'all know my personality. I'm going to be joining on the plane. I'm going to be talking about what you wore, what you wore on the play, and how that's good terrible, and I'm going to tear your ass up once we get on the second team bus. So you make sure you

get, nah, nah, man, everybody want to go on bus one. If they got on some bull-jide, they want to go on bus one, because that's the bus Mike on. Yeah, they don't want to know. Yeah, they know we're not going, we can't get your ass on bus, too. Man, Shaw, what bus are you on? Getting on bus too. Mike asks, look, guys, it's been

brought to my attention. Okay. You guys are watching stuff that you shouldn't be watching. Like what? What they can't watch, huh? Man, them joke will be watching Spankton. In the hotel, we call Spanktrivision. Spanktrivision? Yeah.

What the hell is that? Chat, tell Ocho what? Ain't nobody... Spancturvision? What the heck? Never heard of that? That's where you watch the more dirty movies. Oh, you talk about like Debbie Does Dallas.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, you needed some infones? Ocho, no, but Ocho, the fire attendant is coming, giving you food and walking up and down as you do want their thing to drink. They walk about people. pushing the car they see that oh okay okay okay see they got their eyes in the wrong place they need to

mind their business look here you know you walking up and that it's just like you walking up and down you go to the bathroom and somebody somebody feeling out their thing you're going to see it it's just the way it is ain't nobody walking straight ahead you're not looking to your left you're not looking to your right you're walking straight ahead yeah yeah yeah yeah hey so Mike said look guys I don't try to tell you guys what to do you're grown men but let's not do this Yeah, you're right, you're right, you right, you right, you right. Yeah, hey, them boy watching that thing when that plane, I'm coming back home, huh? Man, I slammed that thing.

I slammed somebody, a thing, I think I broke it. That's it to see, because here's the thing, no, true. Well, I look at it. You know how it is. Somebody jump off sides. We all got to run. I didn't even do nothing. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even in.

Right. So we got to run. So if that gets out again, what Mike's going to do? do. Mike going to punish everybody. Right. Nah, you're not fitting to mess it up because you can't control your behavior. Nah, that's not going to happen. Mm-hmm. So that's where, you know,

man, bro, the man told you. I mean, think about it. We get what we want. We get free, we get free movies. Everybody got a free movie. Whatever you want to watch. I mean, me and Burns, I watch Players Club. I bet you I watch Players Club 25, 30 times. Hey, Bernie Matt was. You're a man.

But Bernie Matt was a fool in that same. Bro, I just didn't want guys to mess it up. One person or two people to mess it up for 50. So, you know, sometimes you have to like, bro, come on now. You have to, you know. But on the plane, bro, you can't talk about, you can't as a reporter. Yeah. You're right.

You're right. Even me. Now, knowing what I know, I know, look, I make calls here and there. I just let it go. I just let it go on, Joe. I don't say nothing. I know a lot of things that have transpired, be an NBA, be it NFL.

That didn't what I'd do. I just let people think I'd just be talking out my, you know. And don't know what you're talking about. But guess who knows what I'm talking about? The people that I'm talking about. Yeah. Ocho, head coach Brian Schottenheimer says he had a talk with George Pickens about the effort following the Lions game and the now deleted IG post about Richard Sherman. Shottie, that's what they call it, said Pickens owned it, telling him, hey, Shottie, I didn't play my best game.

He made it clear. He's not worried about all that Pickett's efforts moving forward, saying, unfortunately, none of us played our best game. That's real. but I don't worry about George and his love for football and playing this game. So pick the right thing to do. If your coach talk to you about your effort,

apologize to Richard Sherman. But that ain't coming. All he did. Yeah. He didn't say you was a bad person. He didn't say all he said was that effort ain't good enough.

Especially, double especially when CD leaves, leaves the game. Yeah. Your coach, if it wasn't that big of a deal, why would your head coach have a conversation about your effort?

It's okay. Sometimes, Ocho, we say it all the time here. When the motion is high, logic is low. Yeah. Man, and look, Ocho, I don't play my best game and you point that out. May it help you. I get it.

I get it. I get it. totally understand. And I don't want people to think I don't understand because I do. And I don't want you to think Shannon Sharp was ever perfect in any game because I wasn't. I had drops. I had missed assignments, but my job was not my, I always prided myself in, Shannon, don't make that mistake again. You know what you did wrong. But if somebody called me out for something that I did, I can't be wrong. I can't be wrong that the coach called me out about a miss block. I missed the block. Right. I didn't get my hair to

cross. I took terrible angle. I took terrible steps. Why do I get mad at somebody for pointing out what you know you did wrong? Hey, all you got to do, hey, Sherman, I'm sorry, bro. Yeah, well, yeah, he ain't apologizing to Sherm, but I know his, I can tell you that right now. That's not coming, but on the field, it's going to change.

It's going to change. You know, listen, he's been good the past 13, 14 weeks. You had, You know, a little mental lapse. You know, a little lackadaisical. But, hey, damn. No, but see, what y'all feel to really? You'll say, no, he's playing for a contract. Yeah.

So, Elcho, and so let me ask you a question. And you can speak to this because you're a receiver. Yeah. That kind of, with his history, based on what happened in Pittsburgh, now he comes here and have a game so how your age is going there and says pick as is going to be on time pick is going to be on time for meeting he's going to be on prime for practice he's going to be where it's supposed to be and he's going to give you good effort yeah how you sell that you say you say you say how you sell it yeah what week we in uh we in week this 14 well i i use the other 12 weeks to sell

what about what about the other four years so you see you got 13 weeks i got three years in a game you if we're going to use what what happened in pittsburg are we going to use what we did the first 13 are we going to use what we're going to use what they're going to up you got to update your resume so it's based on recently but what have i seen more of him giving me that effort the first 12 weeks or the effort that i saw on on what on Thursday. Okay, you're right. You're right.

You right. See, and you know how they're going to do. Oh, Joe, you know how they're going to do it. Now they're going to write all this stuff in his contract, all these clauses where they can claw back money. I'm just telling you how they do it. Yeah, I know. I know.

You know the game they play. You know, you know the game they play. But you know, you know, you know what? He going to get his money. But they're going to have a whole lot of clauses in there, though. They're going to have, they're going to have a lot of clauses. Yes. And that's, and that's, and that's all I'm saying.

I don't, hey, I don't want you try to claw back money. Now, if I'm late for something, if I meet something, now I can potentially avoid the contract. I can avoid the guaranteed money or roster bonuses. The hell no. Yeah. I can honestly say, I don't know about you, but I ain't never had nothing like that in my contract.

I didn't have a weight clause in my contract. When people start putting stuff in their contract, what are they trying to tell you? We don't trust you. Yeah, basically. basically trying to think the reason why they put that the reason why they put that the reason why they put that clause in in kaila's contract what do they have in zionn williams contract no choe you think you get a weight clause why they don't trust it they got a weight

closing now yeah absolutely huh yeah same thing with edie lacey yeah hey hey a big eddie boy Eddie was big, huh? Well, Eddie was a big way and playing running back. Literally and figuratively? But I'm saying, I don't, I know, put in my, I get it. They're going to be certain clauses that it's just standard procedure for a contract. And we get that. But you ain't fit to put no weight clause.

You ain't fit to put no on time clause. Yeah. Because, no, I need all my money. I ain't trying to get you nothing and I'm not trying to if I do something it voids it right

that's all we're saying Pete you too good boy go get this money get it oh yeah hey I just think I'm talking about

thing about clauses shit I ain't had no damn clauses shit I kept getting all my money back yeah I wasn't tripping Pete, I ain't telling it what somebody told me. You're talking to a guy that helped up some money.

Yeah. Pit, go get him boys' hell next week, boy? Mm-hmm. Give him hell. Shit. And despite the Postal Lawrence's, uh, he's had, oh, Joe, even with all that, his 78 catches is a career high his 1179 yards

is a career high his eight touchdown is a career high nobody has ever ever doubted George Pickens' talent nobody it's unquestioned it's off the charts yeah

off the charts bro these last four weeks and if you guys make the playoffs let it be the hardest you've ever played and go get you a contract that if this is the last contract you get

you can go shut it down go back to Georgia or wherever you're from and live happily ever after that's what you do that's what you do Pete don't mess this opportunity up sometimes people get

multiple opportunities sometimes they don't get your money pick yes sir huh I was like why you keep looking at me why you keep looking at me

uh asked for the proposal we're talking about shishana shave yes no let it grow. What you, shade what? Okay, okay. Because I know you can't grow one.

I can grow, I grow mine like Rick Ross. Yeah, you know, I. You'll get one of the beauties. No, no, I can get a real. Hey, matter of fact, that's a good idea, huh? Matter of fact, when we do the live show, I'm going to get a unit. A nice little beard with a lace front. Hey, with the waves.

I'm going to be cleaned. Yeah, they're talking about Make it look old What you mean, look? I am, I'm 57 I'm about to be... Now, but you know, Black 4-A for...

Another 7 months I'm gonna be 50. No, but, no, you don't look like... You look like... You look like... You look like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, you look young.

No, no, no, no. I don't think it's fully great like Prime now. I don't think it's time. I mean, I don't think mine's gonna be like salt and pepper. Yeah, you know, Black 4A, We age gracefully, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might be 57, but you look, 39, 40. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you good, you good. I do a lot of things like I'm in my 20s. Let me stop. Let me stop. Let me stop.

Nah, but I'm going to see. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to give it a month. So this is a Saturday, Sunday. I didn't say, I didn't shave, Saturday, Sunday, and I didn't shave today. So this is three days. Yeah. So I'm going to see where, I'm going to see where it's going to be on the fifth.

Okay. Listen, if you grow, if you grow yours out, I grow mine out, man. We, you know, sure, we can look like we're from Philly with the, you know, with the beers. Hey, I will put that. Beijing and mine. I'm going to put that up in that 5710. Okay. A little Rogan. And have it and have it like

a uh, uh, how that thing like Big Perth and uh, and Rick Ross. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Give me some beard oil. Yeah. Hey, you know, I think I'm going to do it.

James Harder. Yeah. Listen, you, you grow yours out, man. I'm going to grow mine out, man. I'm going to get, then I'm going to get me a little lace front with the waves. Nice little That's gonna be clean You got your, uh

Yo, your hair gray? Nah, not yet Oh You know, I'm young, man, I'm about 23, man Now I don't get no gray hair yet Yeah We're gonna find out

But, uh, uh, Pick, I mean, had picked Pick got a chance for 100 catches, Ocho. Yeah, we got out of the chance for a hundred catches.

It's four games left, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And the way he played, that could be,

that could be 1,500 yards. Woo. They ain't going to be able to deny that. So, Pick, get your money, bro. Get your money. You'll be glad you did.

The chief. These could be officially eliminated from the playoff contentions in week 15. And Travis Kelsey said the situation is a tough reality for the six and seven to be in. Neither Kelsey nor the Chiefs have missed the playoff since 2015. During the latest episode of New Heights, Trav said, I feel like I've always had answers in years past. And this year,

I just can't find them. I keep thinking if I show up to work and put into work and fix the issue through my practice habit, through perfecting the game plan. And my fundamentals is what I've been taught. And to go out there and try to play my ads off for the guys next to me. come together like its years past and this year it just not tough yeah stuff it happens it's coming to a end yep yeah he knows it everybody knows it and the thing is is that is that when you you it happens a lot oh joe you can take this uh joe when you start to press you're not playing like

you want to play it's late in the ball game and you want to make every play you want to take every play to the house and so in order to do that you got to like sometimes you got to like do this. You see what I'm saying? I ain't on the ball, Joe? Yeah. Because I'm trying to get gone. I'm trying to get gone.

And ball on the ground. And he had a situation Mahomes put it a little behind him. He dropped that one. He threw another one, what we call a cell rock, and that one popped up in there. It was all on his head. And Al-Srezer, he ends up taking it off

and picked it. So it's frustrating. because you know you're closer to the end at the beginning. Mm-hmm. And this might be the end. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And it sucks. It sucks for Triath because I think he came back, you know, contemplating retirement last year, but he didn't want to finish his career off that way. He came back to this year hoping things would be different. And just as a team, it just hasn't gone well at all. And most of the time, one of the things that really hurt and really bothers you as a competitive. competitor. You put the work in during the week. You put the same hours, doing the same formula, what you did in the past, and the end result was the Super Bowl, and now you're doing

the same thing, and things just aren't going well. The ball's not falling your way. The calls you normally get from the refs, they're not going your way this time. It's just, it's a hard reality. Yeah. And that's the hardest. That's the hardest part coming to grips with that. Yeah. Because like I said, my thing was Joe and Ocho, I could go out there, like, there'll be a game. I'd go get you 130. Two touchdowns. Next game will be 30 yards.

Next game will be 40 yards. I couldn't do it back to back. Yeah. When I was in my, like year six, seven, eight, 150, 161, one, one 30, 99, and two tubs. Couldn't do it anymore. Yeah. I can still have a big game.

You go about thinking my last year, my last year, second to the last game, I go sell them for 101, three touchdowns, offensive player the week. But in between that, it just couldn't, just couldn't, you know, play, play, who we played, say we played the Chargers.

I always had a good game against the Chargers. So a week before the by week, charges, 13, 153, three touchdowns, offensive player the week. Come out to buy week, get the Ravens, nine for a buck, $6. You know, I'm cooking like that guy. I'm cooking like, I'm white-hot.

You know what I'm saying? You see, oh, I don't touch that. Yeah, I'm like that. I'm killing everybody. Man, as you start to get older, it's tough. And I'm sore. It's taking me longer, where before I can,

I can play on a Sunday. And I felt like my first couple of years, on, Joe. Like that Sunday, like that Sunday Thursday game, man, that ain't nothing. Nothing at all, yeah. Nothing, Joe. Shit. Boy, you're self-hit.

You're 10? Where is the buy week? I'm looking for the buy, Joe. It's hard to back to back that thing like that, man. It's a, uh, it's just it's just it's tough on him because we've seen a guy

you can make the case and I can and I do I think you do I think I think it's between him and Grom but I think when you go look at the playoffs and you talk about a guy that has as many yards and as many touchdowns as Jerry Rice

and we know how we all hold Jerry Rice in very high regard you look at his numbers in the playoffs and they're right there. And what he's done in big moments he's always been especially In playoff, excuse me, in playoff games, there haven't been that.

Yeah. And it's hard when you can't be that anymore. Yeah. Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips on the way? Happens to us all. It happens to us all. And like he said, he used to be able to fix that, Joe. He used to go, hey, oh, this is what I did,

you know what instead of trying to rip I probably should have did arm over instead of arm over I should have ripped right instead of any of that I probably should have collided him knock him off balance break away from him you know what maybe I need to drop my hip a little more maybe I need to sell it a little more but after I mean after why you see a guy in a movie long enough you already know what type of movie he's gonna do that's a good one it's it's it's tough it's tough it's tough on account with Joe? Yes.

Because, I mean, as a competitor, I mean, obviously, you know, the way the season ended for him last year in the Super Bowl, you know, he couldn't retire like that, so he had to come back. You know what I mean? So, when do you say,

or when do you feel like or even think that, man, I should just probably go and give it up? It's hard to do that. It is. Because it's harder for a great place. to give it up. Because when you're great, that's all you know. Yeah.

And it's hard for you to be anything but great. Yeah. One thing about it, Joe, and all, that film won't lie to you. That film will let you know. You might think you're great, but the eye in the sky does not lie. And you can look like a shell of yourself

and watching yourself, your body language, your mannerisms. It'll let you know, yeah, I just ain't got it no more. It's not the blocks. Hey, I'm always one step behind. I mean, and then, you know, you're looking at guys. I'm looking at guys that start to guard. They start letting anybody guard me.

I'm like, y'all, I've got no more respect to that for me. I'm like, who are you? Where do you come from? I'm, oh, Joe, I'm a fit, Joe. I'm offended. Yeah, I know, yeah. I'm like, you're the, I'm used to get, hold on, I'm used to getting your best.

corner. I get number one on third down. Now they just got some guy. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I'm used to getting doubling triple team. I don't even know this dude guarding me. Who is it? Yes. That's what they got.

That's all the respect they got for me now. Y'all ain't playing no boxing one. Y'all ain't playing zone, but got a man traveling me everywhere I go. That's what I used to get, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. They're playing zone, but I got a guy going to meet

and I got to read it. Like, hold on, man, why do you stop? I say, that's a zone. But yeah, you got a guy telling you. Oh, my goodness. And now they just got some Joe Smow out there. Hey, because that's back when you had them batteries in your league. You ain't got them batteries no more.

Man, look here. That's, hey, start, stop. Hey, the Zara rock that heads it. that ah you know hey hey Ocho you are you drive a stick

you like that stick yeah they getting on that clutch to our that was me that's how I was starting stopping

shit hey run through contact oh hey I start run through contact man I start got in year 13

year 14 I hit that blink a blinkle let me get on up out of bounds. Especially if it's cold. Yeah, it gets. I want none of that.

And you watch guys as they start to get older. Watch how easy they go down. No, nobody wants none of that. So, Joe, you start looking at them guys in year 12, year 13. Watch how quick they pull that turf over the head.

You think they're jumping in the bed when it's cold. They get that great. and they get that turf up on them. Hey, listen, that's called a business decision. Absolutely. As you get older, you make more and more of them. Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.

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