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Stay for the stories. Oh, Cho, I bet Hard Knocks wishing they were following the Cleveland Browns around this year. Now is Dylan Gabriel's significant other, jumping into the drama. Whoa, what happened? What happened? He posted a TikTok saying, my fiancé Dylan is not playing.

I have thoughts about that, but I'm not going to share it. She then captioned another with Brown's loss, what's new. But then, he got into a disagreement with a commenter on a post and wrote, actually, everyone in the building

wants him to play, but you wouldn't know because you're never been into the NFL or coach, right? Well, you know, I mean, listen, we see this all the time. We see family members display their frustrations, whatever they may be, really not understanding how the game works, you know, the ends and outs of it. And, you know, she wants her fiancé to be on the field.

You know, he's not on the field. Shador has been chosen to be the quarterback. How does she know everybody in the building wants him to play? I mean, they've been on the news for how long. I'm asking you, how does she know that unless somebody pillow talking? Oh, come on, man. I tell you what, let Charles, when you were in Cincinnati, let Johnson say, man, my brother ain't getting the ball.

They need to throw the brother my ball or trade it. Right. What you tell me what you think the people in Cincinnati and what the Bengals organization is going to think. Where did that come from? Oh, that, did I say something? What you would be, I say something? You know they came from you.

Even if it didn't. That's what they're going to believe. That's why I always tell family, friends, and loved ones, be mindful of what you say because whether they said it or not is going back to them. Yeah.

I mean, you know, that's his wife. You know, they have those conversations. I'm sure he does. Of course I want to play. Of course I want to start. You know, you go home and who's the one person you have peace and get vent to when it comes to.

Oh, honey, how is your dead work? Well, shit, I ain't starting. Mm-hmm. Those are conversations that I had between a couple, a husband and wife, a fiancé, you know, I mean, that's normal. And she's vending and her frustrations about, oh, damn, here we go. What's new? We don't lost again. But you have to be careful now, Ocho, because back then there was no social media that your significant other could go to.

Ah. Now, there's a platform called social media that they can go to and disseminate information all across the world and instantaneous. so even if you were to sin and then hit delete it's gone oh it's too late it's gone it's too late once you hit sin it's a rap man lord have mercy yeah i just i just wish people understood that it's a it makes it put dillon in a bad spot right because i don't believe see when she said the locker when she said hold on what if you say uh actually the building when she said the building, I don't think, I think it's from locker room up. I don't

think it's the locker room down. I don't think it's the locker room. I think it's from above the locker room up. The building, I think that's the executive. I think that's the front office. Hold on, we already know that, though. We already know that. Based on the words based on things that have been said, you know, you know that part.

But down below, where it really matters, the meat and potatoes of the team, I don't need to say no more. Because I can't I can't throw anybody else under the bus. You know, like I slipped up long time ago. I don't want to do that again. But that's what they won't.

Just be. That's what they want. Inside that building. The people that's going to war. And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. What I don't understand is that people need to understand you're not the center of attention.

If you weren't dating Dylan Gabriel, how many people you think would know who she is? That's what anybody, unless you're Taylor Swift. Now, Taylor Swift is a different animal. Everybody knows who she is, even if she's not dating travel. Right. But when you look at it, Sierra and Russell,

okay, that's a different dynamic. Right. But we're talking about somebody that doesn't have that name, that name or brand recognition, that you only know, oh, that's Dylan Gabriel, Frience. Right. Oh, that's such a, that's Ocho's wife. Man, that's Ocho's significant other.

So anything to get said out of her mouth, that at Coral, that relates back to football. Right. Ocho talking ass. That's how it is. I'm sorry. It's just like stuff at work. When stuff come back to work.

Oh, I told you that. I told you that. I've seen situations get messy. because something got said in the locker room somebody went back and told their wife a girlfriend and who-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo now and it got all over the place

all over the place damn and you know where it came from because we talked about it in the locker room and ain't none of the wives, girlfriends, significant of others fiancés or whatever they want to be within the locker room to hear

so one of you, mopholes said it running your mind and then I grew up It ain't but a small group. It ain't like we're talking loud across the, across the room. Uh-huh.

We're talking in a small group, four or five. Yeah. Oh, so it's easy. It's easy to pinpoint who says something, man. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I always ask somebody, hey, man, Sean, let me tell you something. I'd be like, okay, who else you told?

Man, I ain't told nobody. Because I don't want you to tell somebody else and then they get out and then you told about my shop. I didn't tell nobody but shop you a damn lie. Because if you already told somebody else, don't tell me.

Yeah, hold on, hold on. Yeah, it's, Chad, it's just a bad spot to put your significant other end in the locker room because I'm telling you how athletes think, be it football, basketball, baseball, when something gets out and if team related, they're like,

she must have heard him say that. He's saying that. Even if it's not true, she could have just been going out on a whim on her own and saying how she feels. Dylan might not have said anything, but they're still going to attach it. It's just like anything else.

If somebody does something, the first place they go, yeah. Yeah, hey You see that? Yes, so First of all, why you got my jersey, Ocho? Why you got my jersey?

Hey, listen. Hey, when I, hey, let me tell you something. When I, hold on, let me tell you how I got the jersey. Hold on. Hey, see, when you was out of town, right, when you were traveling and you were doing them alcohol, hey, listen, you were doing one of them alcohol signers and I had to break in your house, right?

And I had to steal my trophies. Shoot, I snatched one of these jerseys up off of you. I snatched one of these jerseys too. How about we make a trade? Huh? How about we make a trade? Nah, don't worry about it. I'm going to keep this.

I'm going to keep this. I mean, I'm going to keep this for the rest of my trophies. Hey, this is the real deal, too. Look, look at the sleeves. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, I got the home in the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that.

The beach hot tides. I like that. I tell you what, when you send the rest of my awards, I got you. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate this. Hey, it's heavy. It's stitched up to this.

This is the real deal, right? Oh, yeah. Hold on, hold on. You see what that's good? Yeah. Hey, we look about the same. See the guns? Yes, sir.

Yeah, I appreciate that. I just, I just, Chad, it's kind of like, Ocho, is somebody in jail. And they are, escape, what's the, where, the first, the first place they go is where? They mama, they girl. Mike, he ain't got no, he got to be going there. Hey, think about, think of, somebody says something and it has to do with the locker

room, the first, even if, even, like I said, Ocho, even if that's her, even if those are her own thoughts and she, I like to believe she's smart enough and she can have her own thoughts. Right. But that's not what people are going to believe. No, not at all. And I don't think she's thinking about it that way. Anyway, she was just more so expressing her feelings

based on how she feels about want her husband or husband to be, you know, to actually be out there actually plan. But she knows she knows better now because she's going to get the backlash and then it's going to fall on Dylan Gabriel and he's going to get pissed. What are you doing? You can't be doing that. You know, they're both new to this. They're both new to this.

And she will understand you've got to be careful before you, before you hit sin, you got to think. Because once you hit it, it's there for life. And guess what else, Ocho? Guess who's going to get asked about this? You think they're going to ask 12 about this? Yeah. You think they're going to ask DeFansky about this?

Of course. Unnecessary. Look, they should be like, okay, what do you guys need to do to get a win? What do you guys need, blah, blah, blah. Right. I got, now I've got to answer questions about something. A lady that ain't, hey, ain't never ain't only been going to the game to see dillon yeah now i gotta ask a question

about what she said that ain't got nothing to do that's gonna help us win a football game mocho nothing whatsoever yeah hey it just adds to the circus and it's unnecessary fuel to the fire so i just like chat i would just recommend anybody young ladies if you you you're dating a guy in college or high school and you guys might be together just keep that in mind. Everything you say that's related to football is going to be tied back to him. And you might have you, you might be your own person. You have your own thoughts. You have

your own mind and I get to talk. I'm, I can speak freely. But they're going to tie it back to him. And that's not fair. And that's not fair to him. And you don't want to put that kind of stress. You don't want to put that kind of pressure. And you don't want to sign that kind of light on him.

So just be just just be mindful of that. that your actions going to reflect back on him. Absolutely. It's going to tie back to him. Just like if you do something out, oh, man, that's, man, man, you heard what happened to Ocho girl? Man, you heard, man, man, they say sharp girl with acting a fool in the mall.

Yeah. It is different when you date a celebrity, entertainer, actor, actress. it's a different set of rules. And you have to move differently. You got to buy it. You can't like, oh, I move how you can't do that. Because now you can't just think about you. You have to think about that other person

and the possible jeopardy apparel you might put them in. And I don't think enough people do that. No. But you should. I mean, the really ones, Ocho, you ain't never seen, you ain't never seen Peyton White or heard her and her say anything, have you? No. See, that's a different type of understanding.

I had no idea to she walked there to me. She said, you don't know who I am. I said, I sure don't. She said, I'm Ashley, man. I say, how are you doing? Yeah. Had a great. There's, I mean, so many people that you wouldn't even know.

That's their wife because they're like, hey, stay in the shadows, do what I do. I understand. Well, some understand they have to play the background. Some understand they have to play the background and they're not the main character. I understand I'm not the main character and I know my place and I know my role. They're a lot like that. There are some that want to be front-center. Okay, that's my man.

Well, I need to be front-center right along with him. It's different. Everybody's different. It also depends on who you're dating. Yes. Some people date you just because they want to be front-centered. Yeah. And quarterbacks, first of all,

quarterbacks bars are a different level. Yes. You basically dating the CEO. Yes. You date the CEO. The guy. So you definitely, you definitely have to be. be willing to take a back seat.

You got to be like Savannah James. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She ain't going to, hey, she's going to do a little podcast. She got a little, whatever she got going on.

Look, they try to beat up her Aisha Curry, but I understand what she's saying. I understand what she said. But, man, I just, I just hate it. I just, you know, they're young, though, Cho.

Some things, you know, sometimes you have to make a mistake before you understand the gravity of what you're in, and then you get a true understanding of what you're dealing with. So hopefully she learned that, just keep that to yourself. Okay, the building wants them to play. If when that time comes, he gets an opportunity to get back in there, he plays well, he's over to hold down the spot.

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That chemistry with guys like Jerry. I'm more of a trust person. So we have to spend some time on the task. It's just, it's just, and I told you, Ocho, any time you, anytime you start doing this right here. Yeah. I mean, listen, Ang, it's a disconnect. You know, it's a disconnect.

Once that Wi-Fi get on point, it's going to be all right. You have to understand, these two ain't worked together, Unk. Right. The chemistry is very important. I think people, those that have played the game at any level you understand, it's one thing, when you get to the NFL, right, you have to be able to, you have to be able to, you have to work with your receivers. You got to work with receivers because just because you have a ball in your hand, you have a guy out there running routes doesn't mean you have an instant

connection. True. There's certain little nuances that you have to have certain rhythms and timing that you have to know that over a course of a training camp, over a course of the off season, that you get to know your receivers. I mean, right now, I understand their frustrations. They're not winning. Judy wants to get the ball. Judy wants to be productive in that offense and things aren't going the way he like right now. But the problem that people are going to have is that first of all, should do as a rookie quarterback in only his second start, like you said. But what about the previous eight games when Dylan Gabriel was in there and Joe Flack was in there? So how many times did you do, do we see that at that kind of attitude on the sideline? Right. Because I'm sure

Dylan Gabriel sailed a bunch of them. He killed a bunch of worms and he knocked a couple of birds out of the sky. And we didn't see this. So people are like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Jude. The man just got in, it's only second game starting. He's a rookie quarterback.

If he's a second year, third year guy, and y'all still not on the same page, I would get it. But in this scenario, it's hard to get people to be on your side considering, if I'm not mistaken, he lead the league in drops. And you had a 35-yard completion that you let the guy come from behind you and knock the ball out.

Yeah. So that's what people see. Now, last year he had an unbelievable season. Jamest did a great job of throwing him the ball. Hey, crazy work last year. Yes. Crazy work. But, you have to, but, Ocho, now we can't take one season and forget about

the years that was in Denver before and what's going on right now. Mm-hmm. We're not going to do that. Right. I just want, I won't, I won't, I want Jerry to understand that this is a rookie quarterback in only his second start. How about, I mean, maybe y'all spend some extra time.

After practice. After practice, Wednesday, Thursdays, Friday, stay out, stay out a little bit longer, you know, get, listen, hell, me and Aunt, Mentor. me and, well, me and Carson used to do that, and I'm not talking about when he first got there from when he first got there, third year, fourth year, fifth year, we got in that extra timing just to know, boy, we can have a goddamn blindfold on. He can throw that ball and know exactly what I'm going to be at. Right. Every time, on rhythm, regardless of a rush, regardless of whoever's in front of me, regardless of a defense. So when we were out there,

it was like it was damn near 707, unc. Like, That's how sharp and on point and precise we were. It was like, it was damnly like seven on seven. But it, but it takes time to build that kind of relationship. Yeah. You just don't go, you just don't go in like, okay, yeah, we got it. No. It doesn't happen like that.

You've got to put time in. Y'all need to sit in a meeting room. Okay, tell me what you're thinking on this route. Tell me what you're thinking on this play right here. That's how, that's how I was with John. I'm like, okay, tell me what you're thinking. Well, if the guy's playing you like this, expect it on the outside. If you're going to put it on your back shoulder.

or, you know, hey, like we were talking about when that guy's running and I can't beat him over the top, Ocho, he said, I'm a back shoulder you. So just know that the ball's going to come and you're going to have to open your hips and catch it on your back shoulder. You know what's funny? I like that we talk about this too, and I want to talk about the way I view Jerry Judy and the type of receiver he is, is they're having problems, they're having problems and issues offensively over there in Cleveland.

But I've always seen Jerry Judy is not a problem. a solution to the problem, especially with the skill set that he has as a receiver, regards to the drops, regardless of the issues he's may have had, understanding what he can do when it comes to putting people in the goddamn blender, being able to define the mismatches for him offensively knowing that he can beat, he can beat whoever is out there at DB, he can beat, let me say this again, he can beat whoever there is out there at DB,

he's a mismatch for damn there anybody unless we talk about, you know, one of the top two better dbs in the NFL. His route run is tremendous. His ability to separate is tremendous. So I don't even understand where the issues are coming from, especially seeing them with the animations and theatrics on the sideline. Yes. Yeah, let's goddamn easy.

You know, the fact that he's one of those few players, there's only a handful of them. You know, I don't got to worry about you. Here, I need you to just get open. Just do that for me. Just get open. Ocho, you look at Judy as the number one? Yeah.

Yeah. Not even close. You don't think so? No, sir. Hey, um, you, listen, can I say something real quick? Yes. I know, I know some of, maybe people in the chat, or maybe you might not be fond of them, but wouldn't. No, I ain't got to, I like him.

I thought he, I thought he should have been, I said when they came out, he came out that draft with CD, with Jetta, with Roads. I said he should have been the number one receiver, take it. Yeah. So I, hey, and I was happy that he went, but don't you? Hey, simply, simply this, simply this. Being able to get open, beat man to man and create separation, that's all I need. Because the ones that are number two's can't do that consistently.

The people that are number two cannot do that consistently. Those all receivers that are number one receivers, my officer coordinator doesn't have to hide me. It's third down. We need you to get open. the man, I don't give a fuck. Ooh, I almost curse. I don't care what it is. Get open.

Jerry Judy can do that. He can do that. I'm just saying. You can name 20 receivers, 25 receivers better than a... I mean, he's number one on that team because you got to have... Look, if you're talking about a number one because he has to be a number one on that team. But you'll go 25 deep receivers before you take him. So we, we base the thing off skill set.

Are you basing off numbers? What are we talking about? His skills are not. not conducive. Look at his numbers in Denver. Look at his numbers now. That's why I just said. Are you talking about his skill set or we talk about numbers?

Well, everybody's the number one if you just look at skill set because everybody can get open. I can stack them a bunch of them. Yes, they can. No, I'm not, look, let me take that back. Everybody can't get open. But how many, how many, if we were to have a draft right now and you start taking receivers, how long before Judy gets selected?

No, um, you, you, you, you throwing, you throwing in different scenarios that I'm not talking about. No, I'm just, he's not a one, Ocho, he's, he's, he's a two, he's a solid two. A solid two. He's not a one receiver. Um, what, what is, what is, what is, let me ask you question. Hold on, what is your criteria? Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's your criteria for being a number one receiver? I'm, I'm curious. They build a game plan to stop you. Are they building game plans to stop Jerry Judy? You know damn well they're not building no game playing.

They built a game plan to stop Ocho Cinco. They built game plans to stop Shannon Sharp. He is not a number one because you know why? Chad, if he was the number one, Ocho would have said, hell yeah. No, I'm, wait, hold on. Are they built it, are the defensive building game plans to stop him? Yes or no. Hold on.

So let's go. We got 32 NFL teams, right? I ask you a super question. No, no, no, no, you can't do that. No, let me finish. You got 32 NFL teams. So every time every team plays that has a number one receiver,

the defense is game playing to stop day number one? Absolutely not. When we come in. Absolutely not. When we come in on Wednesday, if he's circled as a guy that we got to stop, if we don't stop him,

that's what the number one is. I'm not saying that every week he's going to get that, but we got to focus on him. me. We don't stop him. We can't. It's going to be hard for us to be. It's only five receivers in the NFL that teams have to do that to. Ocho, he's not a number one. It's not a number one. I get he's from Miami. It's only five.

Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown, C.D. Lamb, Pickens. It's only a few receivers. Nico Collins is a number one. Tyreek Hill is a number one. Brian Thomas Jr. is a number one. The guy, the Giants is a number one. Picking, CD is a number one. Harry McLaurin is a number one. The guys, they got two guys in, Drake London, is a number one.

Stop this notion. Oh, Cho, don't do that. Come on, man. You're just throwing anybody name out there. Top of cone. Are they number ones? Yes or no. Who?

Are they number ones? Yes or no. Yeah. Oh, so, hold on. So when you play that Atlanta Falcons, the focal point is stopping Drake London? Is Drake London the number one? I'm asking. Is that what you're telling me? Yes.

Yes. He's their best. Okay. He's not their best receiver? Okay. JSCN. JSCN is not a number one. Oh, okay, now we're talking.

No, no, no, no, no, he's not a number one. Now we're talking. Now we talking. Now we're talking. Now we, I like, I like that. Now we're talking. Come on, Ojo. No.

I just, hey, I'm, I'm basing it off what you're able to do. I need skill set. How do we know what, Joe? He's had one year. So what about those years that he didn't do nothing? So all of a sudden, so he just acquired this skill set last year. The previous three years, he lost it, and he lost it now, but he had it last year. No.

Mm-mm. I tell you what, you take Jared Judy or Devonte Smith. You take Jared Judy or Jalen Waddle. I'm just asking Those are guys that play two So would you take them Would you take Jared Judy

Or would you take DeVante Smith Would you take Would you take Jared Judy or Jalen Waddle Would you take Would you take him Or you take Pierce? Would you take Pierce in Indy

Or would you take Michael Pitman Jr. Or would Judy? Which one you take it? I'm giving you every chance To take Judy So listen You hear everything All the comparison in the teams

And how you doing And how you doing that, right? You see what you're doing? You talk about, you talk about players that are all on competent offenses That get, that get balls with quarterbacks. You see, you see what you're doing? With, let me as your question.

Are you trying, no, no, no, you try to compare the goddamn shit circus He got to fucking deal with it, Cleveland and you're naming the Dolphins You're naming Daniel Jones over that throwing the ball looking like goddamn Tom Brady reincarnated. Like, come on, man. What about Malik neighbors?

How was he? What was the Giants last year? Oh, he was gangster. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, what were gangsters? And he was a gangster. Oh, you mean that rummage sale that they had up in the Giants last year? That he had a hundred and something catches? Yeah.

Yeah. They threw that thing to him like crazy. I'm just I'm just I'm just this is this is this is a great this is this is a great comp I like this conversation I like this conversation but let me tell you something also situations matter where you are matters quarterback matter it's so many factors that come into play especially when you start naming other receivers on other teams that are in totally different offenses with good quarterbacks and great offensive systems that that's all so it's like it's like it's it's almost unfair to have that conversation in comparison. But let's let's move on. Well, 90% of the chat disagree with you. 90% of the chat say he's not number one.

Hey, 90% of the chat can't cover me. 90% No matter of fact, hold on. 100% of the chat can't cover me and tell me nothing about playing receiver. Maybe 15 years ago, you had a very compelling argument. Now,

Jerry Judy leaves the NFL and drops and drop percentage which qualified on target pass and dropped by receiver Judy has dropped almost 19%, 6% higher than any other receiver. Bay Ocho Hey, man Ocho to be a hell of attorney, y'all. Ocho, no damn way, y'all guilty.

Ocho to hear, whatever it is, the weapon Ocho don't know. gave it to the lawyer. Oh, you know, bad, look at my client, they do this. Hey, hey, you got me hot, man, talking about the Chack. Hey, you got me hot talking about the Chacker cover me, man. I'm hot. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around.

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Sugg said he's a first ballot. I wouldn't think so. The off-to-field stuff, they're going to shy away from that, probably until it gets resolved. They let another murderer in the 90s. Hold on. They let another murderer in the 90s. I bet you if they could, they would have waited. Like, we might not want to put this guy in this fraternity just yet.

A. I don't think, I don't think, because you got to think about it. T.O. had, look, should AB be a, first of all, let me say this. Should he be a first ballot based on what he did. Ray Charles will see that. Yes. Yes But

With T.O. They changed the bylaws. They said what you did off the field And what you did in the locker room Or on the sidelines Could be weighed against you. So you see how they did that on? You see how they were able to move the goalposts?

You see how they were able to move the goalposts And having the power to control Having the power to be able to control When and who not let in When they're tight, the criteria for making the Pro Football Hall of Fame is conducted and based off what you do in between the goddamn lines.

So now we're making it personal. They change it. Yeah, they change it. They change it for in their favor. So if you don't conduct yourselves in the manner in which we see fit away from the game of football, now we can chastise you for it.

We can chastise you for it. I mean, listen, A.B. is a bona fide hall of famer, no matter what. I understand what he's done all. the field. I even understand some of the stuff he's done on the field. But when it was time to go, when you talk about the story

and you talk about some of the greatest NFL receivers that ever played his mother, almost curse. Greatest receivers they ever play this game. You can't tell the story without mentioning Antonio goddamn Brown. You're right. I think he's talking about OJ, but OJ

was already in. That's the one thing about that fraternity. Once you're in, they can't take you out. You're there for perpetuity. So I think he was talking about OJ But OJ was already in So there was nothing you can do Now maybe at USC they removed Some of his paraphernalia or they took him

I don't know But in the NFL Once you go into that building You're in that building I just think the thing is Ocho I just think he's going to have to wait They made Tio wait three rounds If Tio is not a first ballot Hall of Famer

The man had the third most catches I think at the time of retirement he had the second most receiving yards over 1,000 yards. There's only been three men that's been a first team all-pro with three different men, with three different teams. Dion Sanders,

Ted Hendricks, and one T-O. So three men in the history of the game has been a first-team all-pro with three different teams. T-O-led San Francisco in yards. He led Buffalo in yards. He led Philly in-yard.

He led Dallas in-yard. He led Dallas in yards. He led Cincinnati for five teams. Five. Yeah. Teal the first battle. You know what? You know what? I don't like, I don't like the fact that they hold, they hold so much power. They control everything. Yeah. They're able to control everything. And you have players, you have players that played extremely well at a very high level consisting for a very long time. And you have people that are able to control, you know, and it affects a lot of players that want to be a part of that fraternity so bad you want to be so you have to you have to pan it you know you it's out of your

control so if you you can't even almost you can't even be yourself you have to be something different you have to conform to what they want you to be like why you're playing a game in order to be a part of this over here because of what it means one of the greatest if not the greatest achievement as an NFL player but or and the thing is I mean I mean I don't know if he's talking about O.J., but O.J. was acquitted. Now, you might think he did it, or he know who did it, or he has something to do. But he went before 12 men and women, and they said not guilty. After that, we can come up with conjecture and speculation and innuendo all we won't.

But at the end of the day, he went before a jury of his peers, and they heard all the evidence, and they said not guilty. But I don't, like I said, is A.B. a Hall of Famer? Yes, do I think he's going to have a hard time getting in based on his history of his off-to-field activity and the way he conducted himself in Pittsburgh? Because you've got to realize, Ocho, when you go before the board, somebody, Ed Bouschette would probably have to be his presenter. So he would have to get up there and says, okay, Antonio Brown, he had this many catches, had this, this, this, and this. But also, uh-uh, uh-uh. So you see how that goes? now some you know some guys like hey

Tom Brady guy going to say Peyton Manning the guy just ain't say a word Peyton Manning stop back down Tom Brady going to be the same thing sit back down some guys you know

offered Jerry Rice sit back down you know some things like that but I think he's going to have a hard time getting in base because like you said it's 50 men and women and every man and woman knows a B story

It is what it is. Jason Kelsey made some interesting comments about the difference between Shanahan offense and the West Coast offenses. Let's take a list of what Kelsey had to say, I do think there's a reason while there has been a lot of great offensive coaches that have come from the Shanahan tree

and the McVay Trees, not a lot of those has transitioned to the Super Bowls. And I think that if you look at largely the teams that have won Super Bowls over the last decade, of them have been West Coast offenses that are pretty much grounded on a lot of the Bill Walsh and Andy Reed like lineages or pro-style offenses. And I think part of that is like the scheme can be great, but it's going to be really

hard to win a Super Bowl with the coach outscheming. At the end of the day, most of the Super Bowls are won with quarterbacks and players on the field. Teams that operate out a drop-back pass more tend to win Super Bowls more because drop-back pass is more important in close games in that end-of-game situations. And that's why I think the West Coast offense, while it's not as, you know, as ridiculously interesting as some of the Shanahan principles and things, I think it probably translates when you have great players into more success at the end of the day. Hey, Unk, I like that a little bit. I like what he's saying.

Obviously, Shanahan's system and the West Coast system, I think it all comes down to obviously having a combination of both. Having a combination of great players with the great quarterback. Because if you have a great quarterback, regardless of the offense that you are running, whether it's Shanahan-like or if it's West Coast system, being able to manipulate that offense and knowing exactly what you're doing and having the right supporting cast,

hell, anything is possible. Anything is possible. It all comes down to the person at the helm who has the ball in his hands the most in his decision-making. That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. Scheme is great. You know, tactics is good.

great. The system you're running is great, whether it be a Shannonhan style offense or whether be the West Coast system offense. Hell, we've seen the West Coast system offense be successful. Think about how many teams that have a West Coast system that have won the Super Bowl. The thing, look, in Mike's system, the West Coast system, they really used the short passing game as their running game. The true West Coast system, the way Bill was granted, they never had a Terrell Davis. They'd never had a guy that could hit his head that could run the ball like that.

And if you go back and study, you look at Green Bay. Green Bay, they had Dorsey-Levens. If you go back and look at the West Coast, the very few teams have had a guy that could run the ball like we had with TD. And even though you go back and you look at the Broncos,

even after TD, they had Mike Anderson, and they had Ruben drones, and we had Clinton Porter. And they had a number of guys. They weren't TD. And so if you look at now McCaffrey, you see how they're able to scheme and how they're able to run the ball with McCaffrey.

And still, they still throw a lot. We didn't throw the ball that much to the running backs. That was my job, end job, and rods, a foot job, to do the leg work as far as the passing game. Yeah, we threw a couple screens, but we weren't a great screen team like the 49ers are with Kyle, like they are with McVeigh. We weren't a good,

we were not a good screen team. We were a toss-it, handed, weak-side zone team, stop it if you can. And then we're going to play action off of that. We're going to run boot. We're going to run fullback slide, drag slide.

We're going to run over. And we dare you to stop. You know what I do like, too, about the West Coast System Monk. And for those that are in the chat, to give you a different perspective, especially when to come to soccer, I want to think about the Barcelona teams,

you know, the early days of Messi, when obviously they kill you with 100 passes, you know, tiki, tiki, tiki, tiki, tiki, that's what I think about the West Coast system, Munk, you know, being able to have 14, 15, 17, 17, 18 play goddamn drives and it's damn demoralizing for a defense because there's no way to stop you because you always able to find the mismatch based on whoever it is at the helm controlling the ball and having the ball in their hands the most. And when it's done the right way, when it's done the right way, it's the most beautiful thing in the world the most beautiful thing in the world to watch

but if you look at it you look at Andy Reed was in that system Andy Reed you look at every because he came from Mike Hongren John Gruden all those guys Mariucci all those guys was under Hungren who came up on that system

Mike went directly to San Francisco and got that from Bill Walsh himself and so you see all the guys that came from Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, McVeigh, all those guys, LaFleur, O'Connell, all those guys.

And so you see a variation of it. They do a lot of that got their own, put their own spin on the Ocho, but that's what it is. But none of them has really had a guy that can run football like a TD. And so that's the only thing that's missing from

the West Coast that I was in compared to what we see now. They throw a lot more. They throw a wave. The game has changed now. The game is changed now. So they're going to throw the ball more than when we ran it. We ran more than we threw.

Matter of fact, what is Mr. Campbell in the Detroit Lions? Is that not West Coast a little bit? I don't know. He won't under Parcells. So he got most of his tutelage under Parcells. Because they kill you with those damn on those damn crossing routes over and over. Yeah, they run a lot of shallows. They run a lot of end cuts.

They do a lot of three-by-ones, a lot of bunches. They do a lot of motion. But a thing about the 49ers, huh? Think about the 49ers, especially that year they went to the Super Bowl. When they faced the Chiefs, that is beautiful football in every sense of the word. Because they can go, they can start at a five-yard line. And dink and dunk and dink and dunk and dink and dunk and screenplayed a goddamn McCaffrey, Chunk played in McCaffrey, you know, running off tackle, running through the A-Gap.

And it's just a continuous, and when it's done the right way, when you have a quarterback that's making all the right decisions, and as great as Shanahan is, is finding the mismatches and making sure you play to your player's strengths. Putting them in, make those plays, it's a beautiful thing. I know you don't know anything about soccer, but I could just show you a clip. I could just show you a clip of Barcelona playing. and it's like the death of a thousand passes and they're just going back to back

and they're almost lulling the defense to sleep. Lulling the defense to sleep until the right time and it's just before you know it, the goddamn golden in the back of the net, you don't know what the hell happened. Yeah. Tell me too much. Clint.

Clinton Porter's was unbelievable. He had way more talented. He was way more, had way more talented than TD, but he didn't take it as serious as TD. Kling Porter should be in the Hall of Fame. That boy was, hey.

Clint Porter's had 3,100 yards and 31 touchdowns in two seasons. Shit. Two seasons. Nice, boy. Yes. Hey, they, y'all used to, yeah, y'all,

you used to run that stretch, that stretch reporter. Yes. Like, I think Payton used to run that a lot, too. I mean, we looked like quarterback almost falling to get that stretch. out there? Yes.

Oh, my. Yes. And, hey, Porta's a whole, hold it, hold it, did we play pass off over and throw the ball over your head?

Port us a whole last stretch long and cut back across that green? Boy. Good night, Irene. And once Porter's hit that second level on? Oh, you get to go. Good luck. But if porters would have taken it serious,

Ocho, do you know how many times on a Saturday night I sit up in my room at the bed check I see who leaving if I see who leave it who you think he'll see him leaving Coach

that's why he traded him who's going to trade a running bat think about it he's office a rookie of the year he goes to the Pro Bowl the guy that he beats out for a Pro Bowl bowl spot is La Danian Thomason. Ledanyan Thomason had 1,600 rush yards

and a hundred catches in a season and Porta's beat him out for the Pro Bowl. Dave. Mike traded him because of that. He wouldn't want to work out. He was lazy? Hold on.

Coming from a program like the University of Miami where everything is predicated. I don't know where it came from. I'm telling him what he was when he got to dim. I'm telling him what he was with him. Wait, the way them boys were coming out to you? I just thought that that transition would have stuck, especially going into the league.

Man, man, Porta came to the game one time, hungover, telling him out of, man, I can't play today. Get your ass out there and run some gap, run that look out and get your ass and do a contrast. They ain't got nothing to do it, Mike. Mike ain't enough portho looking out of your throat. Hey, I bet he had one hell of a game, too.

A monster. A monster came. Man, I say, Pope, man, why you won't do right? He'll tell you, he'll tell you himself. I mean, I got, I mean, I thought it was just going to be a matter of time. I didn't think he was going to trade him because I did all I could, you know, being a veteran presence there trying to do all I could. Come on, Polk, man.

Damn, just do right. Hey, matter of fact, Un, wait, who was the replacement? Polk come to practice and wouldn't even have his shoes tied and they couldn't tackle it. As a matter of fact, you know what? If coach made that decision

to let porters go, that means there had to be somebody behind him that they trusted or that maybe not as good but we can do just by. They are, uh, uh, who's that?

I think it was maybe Ruben drones. I think it was, uh, Ruben. I remember Ruben. I remember. Hey, he ended up rushing for 1,200. Hey, what's the running back? Did you play with the running back?

You didn't play with Travis Henry played in Denver, too, didn't he? No, I was gone. Yeah, Travis was gone. I was gone when Travis got there. I wonder, I don't know why I'm thinking about running back. I'm going to have Travis Henry doing. You know, he did some time, Ocho. No, not so about the running back played for the bill.

Travis Henry? He did some time, Ocho. I ain't know that. Yeah. Damn Oh, Joe, one day after being claimed by the Buffalo bill on waivers from the Steelers, cornerback Darry Slay has informed the bills. He will not be reporting to the team.

Slay had been a healthy scratch in week 13 and seemingly fallen out of favor in Pittsburgh, so the two sides of mutually agreed to part ways. Adam Schepter reported that Slay wants to continue to play. Since Slay was released between the. trade deadline in the end of the season, NFL rules require him clear waivers before he could become a free agent. That did not happen as the Buffalo bill put in a claim on a 34-year-old. Slade does not want to play in Buffalo.

However, Tom Pelliserro reported that Slay has informed the bills. He will not report to the team and is contemplating retirement. The bills are likely to let Slay manipulate his way out of the situation. when Anquam Bowden signed with the team before the 2017 season. When the playoff drive was broken, he then retired after two weeks before the season began. He later asked the bills to release him so he could play elsewhere.

Bean refused to grant Bowden's request and retained his rights. Ocho? Well, I think players don't want to go to the bill. What's wrong with Buffalo? They got Josh Allen. Ain't nothing wrong with Josh Allen. Going to a team like that, you have a quarterback, but there's a chance you're going to be in.

intention, defense is decent, you know, I would love to go play with Superman if I was the defense is back, but I think Slay might be chilling, Slay might want to make a move and go back to Philly. You might want to be able to, you know, have a chance to go back to Philly and help him out in some way, shape, form of fashion. That might be it. Or maybe, you know, I just don't see and understanding how much Slay loved the game, that has to be his move. I think a chess move. Obviously, we both have the same agent. I don't play anymore, but still, we both have the same agent in Drew Rosa House, and I know Drew is going to give him the right information that he needs if that's what he's trying to do. And Drew will do

due diligence behind the scenes, behind closed doors, so Slay can get exactly what he wants. And I personally think if it was going to be a move, I think he would love to go back to Philly as opposed to Buffalo. Yeah, they know that. That's why they're not going to release it. You think they have played hardball? So, yeah, for sure. For sure. Dang. That's why they claim them.

A lot of times people would claim players. They get released. They would claim players. So I want to make sure you don't go to a competitor that somebody that we might have to play. What if we release, what if we let him go, then he goes to Philly. We end up seeing Philly in the Super Bowl. And now we got to deal with Slate. Now, we got to deal with.

So no, I don't, no, I don't because all they're going to be on the hook for is the last, what? whatever pro-rated of a $1.3 million left because I think he signed an $8, $9 million deal. He got seven and a half of it up front. So the rest of him, so it's really nothing. So, yeah, I agree with you. I think that's what he wants. He wants to go back to Philly.

I don't think he ever wanted to leave Philly. No, absolutely. But, you know, they, you know. Cooper DeGie and Mitch and Mitchell. You heard me? They went young. They weren't young. They did, of course, of course.

It's the nature of the business. I think Slay is still a very, very good quality corner, very good quality corner. And having that veteran presence in that locker room, honestly, for me, I wouldn't want to leave either. I wouldn't want to leave. But defense has been playing well, hopefully. You can only play so many people. You got a quarterback on a big contract. You got two, both the receivers making big time money.

Look at your offensive line. Look at how much Lane Johnson, Maillotta, Dickerson. Look how much money. He had a team-friendly contract, though. He didn't at first. They released it. They released it. Right, right. Yeah.

And so now we got guys coming, and they had to re-sign bond. Yeah, they did. You got Jalen Carter coming up. You got Mitchell coming up. You got Jordan Davis coming up. You know what I'm saying? You got Mitchell, you got Junk. Also, you can't keep everybody.

As good as you draft, you're not, I don't care how much money you got and how much you want to keep everybody you're not going to be able to keep them you're not going to be able to afford them that's my dog hey wait a minute well maybe slay might come back next week he might come back next week because the bills do have to play the bangles you know i would i would i would i would i personally i wouldn't want to come back a new team and have to deal with chasing higgins no you don't think so it's really cold up there That's football weather, man Not for not for no significant other having to sit outside

They got they got sweets Man please You don't like the sweets in Buffalo The sweets in Buffalo nice Man that may they try to pay money like that, Ocho You don't think so You know how much sweets cause? Not that much

But sweet ain't number 10,000 Clearly you didn't have one I had a suite No, you didn't Not for no 10,000 Yeah, yeah How much Not even

Not even, not even In Cincinnati Can you get a suite for 10,000? I'll probably say The cheapest suite Would probably be A couple hundred thousand What?

Ain't no suite Costs $100,000 now Come on now Boy, the suites The closer you get to midfield They cost a million dollars What the head You're talking about.

What kind of sweets, y'all? What, man, what is you talking? Ocho, you do realize most sweets, they come 12, 16, 18, 24, 30. That's what's coming in. And you know, you know what's funny, is I actually had a suite, and I don't remember how much it costs. But I guarantee you, because as fiscally responsible as I was, if it was anything like the numbers you said, I would have told my home boys and family, but y'all got to sit you

y'all a ass in the stands when they get the November D. How many, how many, first of all, how many, how many, how many, how many people fit in the suite? Oh, let me see. It's two rows of the front. You got all the food. Then you got the bar, you got the bar stool. You have to pay for the food. The food don't come with the suite.

You have to pay for the food separately. Everything, everything comes. I mean, it's part of the package. No, it's not. Yes, it is. You have to pay into, you have, you get the suite. and then you have to pay extra for the food. No, I got a discount, I think that's what it was.

I got a discount. You got to understand. What's the average price? Let me tell you something, huh? Listen, I'm... You can't get it for a per game. No, yeah, you got to get it for the season, all eight games. You got to get it for all eight games.

You got to understand. For me, they might have gave me a discount because I wasn't just a player. You hear me? I wasn't just a player for the Bengals. I was a part of the Brown family. You hear me? I was, like, I was, I was so integrated in a part of the family. I'm not saying I was adopted, but there was the point where I won't change my name to Chad Brown, Johnson. Like, that's, that, that's the, that's the kind of relationship I had with ownership.

I can't, I can't wait to hit these numbers. Uh, yeah, closer to the center field. Because I remember me and Ray had one. This was in 2000. And we were next to the owner's box. And we played a quarter of a million. Why, damn. A quarter of a million?

And the food did not come free. Oh, hell. Hey, hey, I like this. Oh, yeah, I like this. I like this topic right here, boy. Hold on. I can like this topic It's a good topic

Oh, this is a good topic Oh, this is a good topic Oh We're gonna have to put a call in to see how much I'm calling right now Hold on Come on Come on answer the phone

Don't do me, don't embarrass me in front of people Come company Oh, he embarrassed him in front of the company. God damn, T.J. Because, uh... Damn, he answered the phone. Now, now you got me curious. A quarter of a million for a sweep.

Yeah, because we, like, obviously, the owner's on the 50-yard, 50 yard, yes. So we got, we had the suite right next to it. So probably, Ocho, in between the 20s, is where you're going to pay the most. Obviously, you start getting the corner and then the end zone. Because you see what they cost at the, uh, at the Super Bowl. The sweets at the Super Bowl be two, three million dollars. That's crazy.

And, you know, honestly, at the Super Bowl, those aren't the actual fans. Oh, no, no, no. It's basically a corporate event. That's all it is. And the thing is, Ocho, you have to give your suite up. If the Super Bowl is in your state, let's just say for the sake of argument,

you got a suite in Cincinnati. And the Super Bowl in Cincinnati, that's not your suite. That belongs to the NFL. Yeah, you're right. You're right. They got to make their money, huh? Yeah.

They got to make their money. They're not playing about that. Yeah. I let, hold on, wait a minute. I mean, I... I'm just like, I'm like... God damn, a quarter of a million. And what, hell?

Oh, yeah. Oh, Cho, it's expensive, man. But look, most of the time, you know who had the suites, the quarterbacks, the really high dollar guys. The big boy. And, you know, you don't want you, you know, you don't want your wife's, you know, because when I was there, the only guy that had a suite with John. When I was in Denver, the only guy to have a suite with John.

Many of them play that high. I mean, that's not bad. Everybody had to sit outside that had family members? Yeah. Yeah, because it wasn't a, bro, he was the only one making big money like that, man. You can't afford no pay no $100,000. You got to realize $100,000 in the 90s, but, oh, Joe was a lot of money, what? Yeah.

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