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It crosses your mind. I mean, a lot of guys who we've tagged, you know, participated in everything. Dak leading the way. He played under two of them. So he never missed anything. Hopefully that'll be the case here. It would be advantageous to get it done before. There's a lot.

I'm talking about picking this. I wouldn't put any time. Once you have a tag, you have a tag, and, you know, we know Georgia's going to be here. That's where we are. Is there a downside of the tag, whether it's $28 million or whatever the number is, is flatly... We know what it is. And you can still shop and do everything. We can do everything we need to do.

Yeah. I know what you want to hear that. I mean, Joe, I knew this is whatever we're going to do, Joe. I knew this really won't do. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho. Ocho, he's,

he had a hell of a year. But then, can we see it? Can I see you do it again? Let me see you do it again, man. You know, they're back up the brink's truck for him, Ocho. I know you want to go out there. Hey, hey, Joe, don't try me and George Piggins like that.

Talk about you want to see it again. Don't, don't do, don't do us like that, Joe. Yeah, I want to say it. If you don't, if you don't, Joe, if you don't see, the value in me and George Piggins after what I did this year, just let me go. Keep a tag to yourself. Take it to take. Use your tag with somebody else.

Let me go about my business. I want nobody else to have you. Huh? Nah, y'all know they want him. Y'all know they want him. Of course they do. Yeah. Yeah, they want him for the load.

Yeah, they do. They want him for the load. They do. Yeah. I bet it's all good. It's all good. You know. I know, because I know Ocho been holling by them going to the Raiders and all that.

Ocho, we like this. little two head muscle we got out here, man. I like it too. Yeah. I like it too, Joe. Why we break that up and then put all that pressure on C.D. Lamb, see what's going to happen there. What pressure?

You mess around. C.D. Land would get Citi Land were getting it done before George got there. City Lamb been that boy. Yeah, but I'm saying, but to have that. He went 88. He went to 88, Joe. City land with an 88 for a reason. I understand that. I understand that.

I understand that. But to have that other guy with him, Ocho, it's been dynamic. You sent pick out there to. to the Raiders, he's going to be pissed out. Oh, yeah. They're going to be double him, having somebody over time. He ain't going to be bawling like he is in Dallas. Yeah, he is.

He's going to have a new quarterback. He got a new system. He got a new coach. Man, he's going to have a rookie quarterback who's going to be out there waffling that ball. Come on now. Oh, that's how you feel about the number one pick? I'm just saying, bro.

You know, they got, they got, I'm just saying. I just seen that same quarterback won a national championship. How many quarterbacks coming to the league right away and they're just putting up these crazy numbers? Man, they got to go through their growing pains. No, no, that Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow? Come on, man.

It's an exception, but come on now, Ocho. Hey, hey, it's cool. It's cool. See how y'all vouching for the owners, you know, trying to, trying to get a given. Oh, man. I almost said, all right. Hey, see how the owner's fool, see how the owner fool the fans?

Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Hey, y'all, they sell, people so selfish. They so, long as they. team, long as it's their team, they don't care, none by the player and him getting what he deserved. But okay. I ain't say that, Ocho. It's all good.

Hey, listen, listen, if you love it, if you like it, I love it. Okay. Cowboys fans, if y'all want, you know, pick as to be there, you know, on the franchise tab, because it's cool. Don't worry about it. I'm frustrated. Now, I'm mad. Man, you know they're going to put it.

that tag on the joint. Oh, yeah, I know. I knew they were going to do that up because I understand how valuable he is. They understand how valuable he is. They know what he brings to the table when he's on that field. I get that. I understand that. I know what he can do in this offense.

You know, I get it. I understand. But I also know what can get elsewhere. Huh? You hear me? Stay with me. Everybody that came out in his draft, everybody got their money already. He didn't have to wait extra.

He didn't have to wait longer. Some of it is his fault. you know, as well. But hey, it is what it is. Hey, these are cars you dealt, man. You got to play them, homie. Hey, you got to play them. Hold on.

And this is, this is best hand, too. Yeah. It's his best hand. His next move has to be his best move. It got to be. Bro, you preach it to the choir. You don't. Okay, okay.

I mean, I just want somebody to scream at. My bad. I know. My bad. But I prepared you for this. I've been trying to prepare you for this. I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming.

No, the fans understood that it was coming, you know? And, you know, in a sense, some of them are selfish and they're blinded because they like the team up of two number one buyer receivers. Yes, I understand that part. But I'm just wanting my brother to get as much as he can. And I understand that he's not going to be able to do that there. And a lot of people won't understand why I've been arguing and fussing about it until this plays out. And then you'll understand. You call me all kinds of names.

I'm telling you what your team and owner are going to do. They're going to play games. And that's what it's going to be. I guarantee you that. I don't even have no conversation until we get to 35. That's what my, hey, that's what my antenna perk up. 35. Okay.

Now you got my attention. That's it. You don't have my undivided attention, but you got my attention. I'm interested. Right. Right. Hey, franchise tag 28, 28, huh? Who's going to take that?

No, hell no. Man, you better. Man, please. What? Hey, I represent George Pix's myself. If David Muluggera even think about having the conversation. Hey, what's he making? 34.

He the third highest paid. Okay. Jetta at 35 and Chase at 40.25. But that's about to get past. Pooka and J. Pooka definitely fin to go. past that. Yes.

Yes, they might have to wait a year, but Pooka and the coup are definitely going past that. Why? J.S. ain't got to wait, uh? Because he's only in the third year.

They don't normally do, they normally do, they normally do quarterbacks in the third year. If you're a first round pick, you're a first round pick because, and the thing is, while you have incentive, uh, Joe, is that they have a fifth year option that they can pick up,

and they get two franchise tags. So theoretically, they got you for seven years. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. That football cut, though, boy. It is. But hey, this is the cars that we dealt.

We shuffle the cars. These are the cars we dealt. There you go. There you go. Fred Warner says Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow is the tough. quarterback he's faced in the NFL. 1,000% Joe Burrell. He's just a dog.

Like, he's just, for whatever reason, his makeup different than a lot of these guys in the league. You talk about competitive spirit. He got it through and through. Ocho, you like that? Absolutely. Absolutely. A lot of people probably wouldn't agree with him

because Joe's been hurt, but I'm saying for it to come from the best defense of player, maybe the best linebacker, one of the best to ever play this goddamn game come from him, it means a lot. And it always means a lot when you hear from not from an analyst, not from a pundit, not from an offense player, but someone that has to stop and defend you.

So coming from Fred Warner, it means a lot. Obviously, we all know Joe Burrell is one of the best in the game. Many will chastise him because of his injuries, because of his inability to stay healthy. But when he is, he is one of the best in the game. And he's been a franchise altering, changing quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. and he changed, he's helped change the culture. Obviously, we haven't won a Super Bowl. We went to one, but we've kind of declined a little bit in our winning ways,

but we'll be back. As long as we have him at the helm, we will always have a chance and always be in contention as long as he's healthy. I agree. I agree. Gotta keep him on the field, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Got to keep him on the field.

That's been the hard part, Joe. God has been a hard part. What's that? An Arizona Circle K manager. allegedly purchased a $12.8 million lottery ticket that was left on the counter overnight. Knowing its value and the company claimed it should be received the prize money.

Now, just what happened, don't you? Yeah. I guess somebody wanted the tickets, but they didn't want it. So he's like, oh, they didn't know that was the winning ticket. Ooh. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Huh?

Oh, take a listen. Let's take it. He's going to tell it how it happened. A store manager at this Circle K in North Scottsdale found a $12.8 million winning lotto ticket the day after the drawing and bought it for himself. Now, a customer walked into this Scottsdale Circle K the night before Thanksgiving, played their numbers and left behind $25 in tickets they didn't want, but the store had already printed. That night, one of those tickets hit the fourth largest jackpot in Arizona lottery history. The next morning, the store manager found out a winning ticket was still. sitting in his store. So he clocked out, took off his uniform, walked back in as a customer, and bought it for 10 bucks, according to core documents. Now corporate found out they took back the

ticket. Now Circle K is suing the manager and Arizona State Lottery. And the clock is ticking because that $12.8 million ticket expires May 23rd. Damn. Now, this is confusing. Now, who's confusing? What happened was a guy came in to play tickets. They printed tickets He's like, no, I don't want those Give me these The ticket that that left went unused It was the winning ticket

The guy realized Damn, this ticket here! Yeah, I get that Take up, he clocks out Comes back in Bives the ticket He says it's mine I bought it as a customer

Right But I don't think I don't think I don't think they allow you to play. He's saying, I ain't a manager. I quit. I'm a customer. I was the manager.

And this is the thing. What they can do, Joe, is remember how technology is, chat. Y'all stay with me, stay with me now real quick. So if technology can go back and say and tell who bought that ticket at said time, based on the cameras that they do have. He didn't want the ticket, Ocho. It does matter. If I go to the store, I say I want $50 worth the ticket.

They print $70 worth the ticket. I say, nah, I just want this 50. Yeah. The 20 is there. It's just there. So you don't think the person who know they left them tickets there is not going to come and try to claim it? He didn't leave it. He didn't want it.

He didn't want him. He bought a new set of tickets. Oh, Cho, you know, I tell you what? You know how you go to the store and you buy some stuff and you're like, you know what? I only want this soda. Right, right. I want these chips and I don't want this candy. And so you leave it there.

somebody's like, man, there's a $10 million baseball card in this candy. You don't get the claim, but you said you didn't want it. Yeah, that's funny. I'm curious to see how the courts rule this one. It is. I'm curious to see how the courts rule this. You know, they try to do that. They were steal the tickets, you know, and it's like, but, you know, you got to go through that system.

Hey, this is a quagmire. So, so. He came out better because a lot of times what they do, Ocho, is that they get. get family members to come in and purchase. Oh, no, no, he don't want, he don't want, he don't want the family to know. Oh, no. He wasn't going to see, he probably weren't going to see none of that. Yeah, you don't want your family.

No, he bought it. Hey, hold on, hold on. So just because he worked there, you can't purchase it, you can't buy a lot of ticket. Okay, so another question is, so he knew that was the winning ticket when he bought it. Yes, because the thing was, oh, Joe, the drawing was that night, Joe. Yeah. And so he's like, get, bucket. We sold a winning ticket here.

The ticket, oh, Joe. Yeah. Hey, we go on the court for this here, boy. We're going to find out. Yeah. They are in court right now. The court's about to decide. Yeah.

But they've got to come to a decision. May 22nd, May 27th, it expires. Hey, they probably going to let it, they're going to let it carry out all the way to May on purpose. That's crazy, bro. Can you imagine? That's why, hey, that's why if they ever print, overprint tickets, I said, no, going to give it to me. I do.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, can you imagine how a mad dude is, though, who originally was going to buy the ticket, but he won his own numbers probably? No, he pissed. Of course. But if I'm not mistaken, an employee of an establishment can't buy lottery tickets at that. Now, I'm not saying that he can't go somewhere else, but they can't buy him there. But he's saying I was an employee.

I was off the clock. I checked out. and came back in and bought the ticket. I don't know how to course. It's going to be very interested to see. It's going to be very interested to see. Because the store said, Circle K has said,

no, we got ownership of that. And the manager saying, nah, I'm not an employee. I quit. I had checked out. I was off the clock. Right.

Right. Boy, hey, I'm taking that. I'm riding that to the wheel fall off. That's a good one, too, boy. But, you know, Hey, that lottery, man, 12.8 million. You only got 2%. I think it's Arizona, 2% state tax.

Damn. You know, you probably walk away. Ocho, you probably go walk away by 6 million. Ooh, we. 6'7, something like that. That's nice deal. Have for taxes. Yep, that's a nice little chunk of change.

Yeah, yeah. Damn. Mm. Hey. Damn. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness.

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Seattle's ride receiver, Jackson Smith and Jigba spoke about his desires to be the highest paid player in the highest paid receiver in the NFL. He said, I think I deserve to be the highest paid in my position. And it's just that I give the game into the community. I give it my all. I think that's worth a lot more. But I will play this game for free. I love this game.

No, no, you won't JSA. I won't let you play it for free because ain't nobody else play. I love this game so much, but you don't have to, I mean learning to be a good businessman, and we need that check at the end of the day. At the end of the day. This would mean 40.25, he would have to top that because that's what Chase get. Yeah. Current record held by Chase.

JSN has two years remaining on his rookie deal, assuming the Seahawks elect to pick up that fifth year option. Ocho, JSCN. Yeah. Does he reset the market? Of course he resets the market. Is he, can it be this year? Two years.

How many times do owners likely rip a contract up two years before? Two years ahead of time? Not likely. Maybe it might be next year. It's either going to be him or Puka. Somebody going to reset the market. It's going to be one of the other. Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, Puka up. Oh, Puga's up. Yes, Puka was like a, Puka was a later-round draft. Oh, that's right. So Puga's probably going to reset the market. And if JSA then get his this year, he'll get it next year and then reset it again. Mm-hmm. Now, I mean, once Pooker resets it, I'm not sure who's next in line.

That is that, that, that, that is that good. That can reset it one more time. George Pickens. So here's a question that I have. Oh, Choate, listen to this. Now, we're talking about JSCN and Pooker resetting the market. Yes. The market is right now 40.25.

Right. And they said, hey, George Pickens, you'd be okay with 28 to 30. That's a 10 million, $10 to $12 million difference. I don't think Pick going to be happy with that. That's just me personally. Now, he could. I don't think he will be. That's just me.

Hey, Pick, no, what's out there, man. I, I ain't trying to, I ain't going to say nothing else. You know about no cowboy players But Hey You got one opportunity You got one chance To make as much as you can

And that big boy You only get that big boy deal One time Yep And it ain't coming around again One time Pay him now And save

You see Cincinnati made that mistake Cincinnati had an opportunity. They could have got him for around what, what they paid Jetta. Early, yeah. Oh, they didn't want to do that. They made him, they made him bet on himself. Okay. Now. Yeah. Well, and that's what happened to the cowboys. The cowboys always wait till the last minute. You could have got that for pennies on the dollar. But first of all, he was a four, I think he was a fourth round pick. So,

you let the two guys that went first in this draft, first and second in this draft, get a new deal. When they got two, because here's the thing, here's the thing what people need to understand, Ocho. Not only do they have a fifth year option,

the team has two franchise tags. So theoretically, they got you for seven years. They hit you twice. Yes. The dirty game, huh? Dagler, hold on, wait a minute. Y'all see what you?

they got them? They gave them $32 million, $33 million. But they got two years left on their deal. Yeah. I ain't got no year. I ain't got but a year left on my deal. And they got $20, $30 million up front, which I didn't

get. No, unfortunately, I ain't going to be able to get y'all a team-friendly deal. I would love to. But it ain't my team and I ain't friendly right now. So break bread. And guess what? Excuse me.

They're going to have to break bread again. Yeah. They're going to have to break bread again. Dag by to get another five-year, $275 million, $275 million, a deal. Go get another $125 to sign. Mm-hmm. They're going to redo CD. But pay them now.

Hey, you can pay him 41 right now or you can pay them 45, 46 next year. The choice is yours. But the price ain't coming down. Never. Not for those type that are that good. That price ain't coming down. But that's where we're headed, though, Joe.

He and Pooka for the day for to reset the market. And George Pickens said right by the year, y'all going to get that. Y'all going, y'all are going to get that now. I ain't going to hold you, Jerry. But you see what they got. Man. You know how he fin a play.

Well, they got, they got Javonte Williams out the way, the running back. They say, so they're good there. But, and but they're going to have some cap space on Joe. You, if you redo DAC, you redo CD, you're going to have probably, I don't know, $45 to $60 million. Uh, uh, Tyler Smith, a, restructed his deal. Just kick the can down the road. Who cares? It ain't my road.

It ain't my cancel. Just kick it. Now, y'all know we good at spending other people's money. Yeah, we spend it, we spend the hell out of the owners money. Hey, I'm, I, it's gonna, it's gonna be, it's gonna be an interesting off season. Mm-hmm. I've said my piece over and over about Cowboys and over and about George Pickens and getting what he deserves and getting it there or,

or what he can get elsewhere. You don't know, nobody listen to me, but you'll see when it come to a head. Oh. It's going to take, it's going to take some money. Yep. Cause I think the thing is, Ocho is that look, your first deal, I don't give you a discount. Hell no. Not the first one.

it's when you build, it's when you build up that relationship that you're able to get a discount from a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a LV or, or, or, or the dealership. That's after you don't bought a car or two. Right.

Mm-hmm. So, hey, let me get this first one. I'll help y'all re-restructure. You know, I, I'll restructure, you know, take the much side of bonus and all that. But, but no, this first one, I got, I got the hair crack you. I do. I, ain't, ain't no sense of that.

And J. said it look he had a hundred catches two years ago he led he led the league he's offensive player the year you're an officer player of the year led the league of receiving second time he's over a hundred y'all and he got a Super Bowl ring mm-hmm so you think they do it this year I would yes and get it and get it out the way on yep because guess what I got the fourth year I got the fifth year plus I got four years so I got I get to spray that over for six years. Right.

I ain't got to see him. I ain't got to see him for another three years. And by the time I have to see him again, if he's still playing at this level, Ocho, the cap gonna be $450 million. What's the cap now? 400 million? $3.90?

What's $3.70 or something? 380? Yeah. In three to four years, Ocho, the cap, the cap's going up $20 million. Let's say it's going up somewhere between $15 and $20 million a year. Right.

Oh, it's going to be astronomical. Because here's the thing in 2030, the CBA is up. Uh-oh. It's 305. So yeah, oh, yeah. In another, at another four years, it'll be 350, 375. Yeah. And oh, y'all won't that 18th game.

Y'all have to start, y'all will have to sweet in this pot. We got to have to get something. Yeah. Two things, Ocho, you get two or the three. You want guaranteed money. You want lifetime health benefits. Do away with the franchise tag. Please.

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as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F-1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sports most consequential driver strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom.

And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career, a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no grips starting March 4th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the biggest night in podcasting.

The countdown is on to our 2026 IHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is, See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards.

Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Oh, Joe. Yeah. The Bleacher Report ranked the top 99 quarterbacks in NFL history.

No surprise. Number one was Tom Brady. Okay. Number two was Joe Montana. Okay. Number three was Peyton Manning. Number four, Patrick Mahomes. Number five, Aaron Rogers.

Number six, John Elway. Number seven, Brett Farv. Number eight, Drew Brees. Number nine, Steve Young. And number 10, Dan Marino. What you think? What, I mean, I mean, you like the rank? Is anybody too high?

Anybody too low? I mean, I like the rankings. Obviously, Aaron Rogers only winning one Super Bowl. I mean, he's up there kind of high. There are other quarterbacks. Oh, so they see, matter of fact, when it comes to this situation right now, and we talk about some of the greatest quarterbacks that have ever played this game, I think people can be very meticulous when it come to who they want at what position

and where they actually belong because there's so many things you can fight for depending on who you like and where you want the position when it comes to a list of this magnitude. Listen, everybody on the list is worthy. Obviously, Tom Brady has to be number one. The fact that Patrick Mahomes is still playing, and he's already number four, number three on his list. I'm not sure.

Peyton was a spot in front of him at three. Yeah, I mean, that's unbelievable. He's the only five-time MVP in league history. He had all the records when he retired. Obviously, they've since been broken. Still has the most passing yards in the season, the most passing touchdowns in the season. He once held a record.

for the most passing touchdowns. He broke Dan Marino's record of 48 with 49. Tom breaks his record with 50, and then he says, I'm going to do 10% better than what you did, Tom. I'm going to break it by five. So he has 55 over 5,400 passes. I think he has 5477.

And since then, nobody's really come close. Now, I think somebody, when they get to this 18-game schedule, Ocho, I think it's just a matter of time. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And also on that list, I mean, top 10, I mean, depends. Chad, y'all let me know what you think. You think about Drew Brees.

You think about someone like Troy, Troy Aikman, who's won through three Super Bowls as well. Drew Brees, statistically, his numbers are up there and almost comparable with everyone else, if I'm not mistaken. I don't have the numbers right in front of me. He had the record before Brady broke him. Yeah, so I know he's not that damn far off. So why is he not on the list? He is.

He's number eight. Oh, he was? Oh, you did say Drew. He's number eight. What about you? Five, he has what? Four or five, five thousand yards passing seasons. Okay.

What happened? Troy Aikman? Yeah, huh? Troy is 19. Oh, God, damn. He all the way down. But you got to realize he just handed the ball off to the all-time leading Russia in NFL history. Okay.

You ain't throwing a whole lot of passes. Okay. They ran the ball early to throw the ball late. So when you're going to try to stop him in on 31 and third and two, that's when he's going to hit playmaker. That's when he's going to hear Alvin Harper over the top. Right. They were a run. Don't get it confused.

They were a running team. were most teams in the 90s. Back then, yeah, absolutely. Yes, it wasn't no past first league. I mean, that's why you see the guys, and see, I think the thing is, Ocho, what has happened is that you look at a guy's stat, you look at a guy like Troy Agamist's, and here is Patrick Mahomes already 100 plus touchdown in front of it. And so you look at like with that, but no, they didn't throw the ball like we need

guys do now. And that's the thing. It's a different era. Hell, look at Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw got four, he got four Super Bowl wins. He's a two-time Super Bowl MVP. Uh-huh. Yeah, too.

Franco won one and Lance Juan won one. And they won four. So you look at that. And he's a league MVP. Right. He's in the top 10. Yeah. Johnny Unis is not in the top 10.

Yeah. Otto Graham, Bart, Star. Right. You know what people have to do is they have to remember. One thing we always do is when we compare, when we compare players, we can't compare errors because the errors most players played in are completely different. They are.

They're completely different. So, I mean, listen, everyone on their list, rightfully so, has a right to be there. And depending on who you ask, I don't think the first four or the first four or five, you don't change. Now, after five, everyone can make their argument for who belongs in after that. But if you think about it in the top ten, only Drew Reeves is the only one that didn't win a regular season MVP. Every other quarterback in the top 10 has one at least one regular season MVP. Obviously, Tom has three, Joe has two, Payton has five. Huh?

Damn. You said Payton has five? Payton has five. Mahomes has two, Rogers has four, Elway has one, Farve has three. I think Steve Young has two. I think, I think. Maybe Dan Marino has one. See how many MVP's Steve has.

I think Steve won the MVP in like 92 and 94. That's crazy. I mean, I should have won MVP, man. So you, man, look here. Yeah. I guess the charge, he threw six touchdowns in that game. I don't know, Ocho. Mm-hmm.

It's just hard. It's going to just be hard unless a running back have a historically great season. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, like Sequin, if he'd have broke Barry E.D.'s record. Oh, Eric Dickinson, that's right. Yeah. With the season that he was having.

Right. I think, look, but I think now they're just conditioned like, okay, a running back has a great season. They're going to give him an offensive player a year. I think that's what we are resigned to. Because if a wide receiver, how do you give it to a, let's just say for the sake of argument, if a wide receiver has 2,000 yards receiving,

how many yards you think is quarterback going to pass for? How many times? How did quarterback go out? Yeah. And you know what's funny? I hate that. It's like that. Obviously, when players, especially a running back or a receiver,

if they happen to have an outer body experience. Yes, out loud season. Yeah. And create history. I think the rules at some point should, because they play a dependent position, it should go to that, to say it player, whether it be the running back,

especially breaking ED's record or receiver, doing something that's never been done before. They should win MVP. And it's going to be a while. I believe the offensive player of the year should automatically go to a wide receiver or a running back. Right. Because you're not going to give him the MVP. Because if you think about it, Ocho, think about it.

Chase was the triple crown. He didn't win offensive player the year. JSCN come behind him, lead the league and receiver yards. He gets it. Chase, like, what the hell? Yeah, that's crazy. Smith didn't win offensive rookie in a year, I mean, an offensive player of the year. My brother, when he run the triple crown, didn't.

I think Jerry did, though. I think Jerry is a two-time offensive player of the year. That's why, you know, I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest. I mean, you probably go say, but I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest NFL player ever. Because what he did and when he did it and for how long he did it, Ocho, it is crazy. Consistency, yeah. A 40-year-old receiver should not have 1,200 receiving yards. As a matter of fact, Brady got like the third most receiving yard.

The third most receiving yard is about 40-year-old, Cho. That's crazy. But look, I mean, when it's all said and done, there are probably some guys today that's, I mean, they're on this list that's going to be able to move up. Yeah, absolutely. Could Patent, could Patrick Mahomes move up a couple of spots? I don't think there's anybody that's going to overtake Brady. I don't. you had to play a very long time.

Even if you didn't play a long time, but, but Ocho, just you know how hard. Think about Ocho. You played 10 years, 11 years, and never went to the Super Bowl.

Well. You did go, my bad, in Cincinnati, but you know how hard it is to get there. Yeah. Think about it.

Brady was going down there every other year. That's crazy. Which I think, I think, he went 10 times. Yeah, I think a lot of people are spoiled,

too. I think a lot of people are spoiled, with the success that the Patriots had in that 20-year span with Belichick and Tom Brady and thinking that is very easy to go. Yes. I think they understand that relationship, that maturation and the geniusness of Bill Bealechek

and Robert Kraft allowing Bill to construct that team and pick and choose what players to have. And once you have someone like Tom as your foundation, as your centerpiece, it's so easy to build around someone like that. That's as great as he is. It is the Ocho, but the thing you'll be. But I'd be wanting to get some credit. And y'all don't be really giving me no credit.

And I'm the one that's cutting the checks. All y'all talk about is Tom and Bill. What about me? Yeah. And Mr. Krause said, I'm going to keep this thing going. I ain't saying, no, I'm keeping up. Yeah. Y'all figure it out.

He understood. He understood the assignment. Yeah. But like I said, I mean, you look at this. I mean, and the thing, I look and I played in the air with all these guys with the exception of Aaron Rogers and Patrick Bajolmes. I played again.

Brady, Montana, Manning, L, I played with him, obviously. Farb, you got drafted the year if I did. Breed's was the quarterback at the charges. Yeah. He got bench for Doug Flutie. Doug Flutie. I remember that.

Remember that. Hey, what year was Dan Fouts and the Dan how you say it? Eric Coriel. Yeah, what year was that? That was, uh, 83. Right. Oh, you talk about when they,

they went to Cincinnati and they ended up losing? That might have been 80, Ocho. Okay, but I'm just saying those were one of the few teams back then during the running era. They actually threw the ball all the time, huh? Yes. Yes.

Yes. And then you had, and then you had, uh, he was the, uh, coordinator, he was the head coach, of the Rams and Seattle. I forget his name. Chuck, was his name? Let's see what in the early 80s, the Seahawks in the 80s.

But yeah, I feel very fortunate. I played the greatest their quarter. I played with the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. Man. Danny, Steve, Brett, John, Manning, Montana, and Brady. Chuck Knox, because they called him Ground Chuck because all he did was running the air out of the ball. So, yeah, but that was, oh, when Eric Correale,

when they had Big Kell and Kellynne, Kellynne-Winslow, they had John Jefferson, they had Charlie Joyner, they had West Chandler, they had Lionel, they had Lionel, James, they had another dude that ended up Matthews from Arkansas. I forget his first name. But they had some team. But the thing is, Ocho, you know, the one weather team,

you send their ass up to the cold and it'll come playoff time. Different ballgame. It becomes a completely different ball game. But like I said, I mean, obviously, you got guys, I think, well, I'm sure, Joe Burrow and Lamar. and all these quarterbacks that are low. When it's all said, done, they take this thing in another 10 years.

They're going to be, they're going to be up a little higher. It's going to be different, yeah. Matthew Stafford, definitely. At the rate, he's going. He seems like he got two, three more great years. Mm-hmm. And him, let alone, oh, Chuck Muncie. Chuck Muncie had the, I had the gargles on.

You remember Chuck Muncie? No, 40. He ended up getting traded. I think he ended up getting traded to New Orleans. But they had a, they had a squad, They have a squad. Troy Eggman's number 19. Matthew Stafford is already number 20,

Ocho. Yeah. Carson Palmer, 56. Joe Burroughs, 66. That's a nice little listener. Oh, yeah. But it was, look, I think the thing is, it's always somebody's like,

somebody should be up here higher and somebody should be up here lower. But it is clear. There have been guys, like I said, I mean, most of these guys are, with the exception of breeds, has what, I think Breeze has been offensive player the year a couple of times.

What you call them? Where is Kurt Warner? Kurt, the two-time league MVP, a Super Bowl MVP. Okay. An undrafted free agent, too. Yep. I can see why.

Big Ben, went to three Super Bowls, one, two, was never a Super Bowl MVP, never was a league MVP. I don't know if he's ever been a first or second team all pro. Damn.

But sometimes when you play in an era, guess what? He's smack dab in the middle of Brady and Manning and Breeze. I mean, you, I mean, where are you going? If you, if you're a first team all pro and that, with those guys, right. You tip, yeah, you've done something. Yeah.

You've done something, no, Joe, because, I mean, think about it. You talk about, I mean, how many touchdowns? I mean, all those guys, hell, Brady probably got 600 touchdown. Manning's over 500 touchdowns. Breeze is over 500 touchdown. Now, think about it. That's crazy. Yeah, you got damn near 1,700 passing touchdowns.

Damn near Brady got that half, damn near 80,000 passing yards or more. so you talk about over 200k past yards. So if you were in that era, it's going to be hard. Very. And it was difficult. I mean, listen, Ben had some success, obviously going to three Super Bowls and went in two.

Had some great teams around them, had some hell of a defenses. Yes. Held to deal with, boy. Old of the day, them defenses back then was hell to deal with. So, like I said, you can see Rodgers.

Rogers has four regular season MVP, the Super Bowl MVP. over 60,000 passing yards, one of the best touchdown of interception ratios in the NFL history, got no problem with that. You can see why he's a, I don't know, he might, could he have been four if he went to and got more Super Bowl? Yeah, probably.

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