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Episode Date: May 9, 2026Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson bring you the Best of NFL on Nightcap. The guys go off on everyone who doubted them about AJ Brown landing with the Patriots, and close it out by addressing... Anthony Richardson's delusion that a west coast system is going to be the thing that saves his NFL career. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 0:00 - Steelers mad with Cowboys over draft trade21:56 - What's next for Anthony Richardson?36:18 - Ocho was always right about A.J. Brown (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Joe, your Cowboys, reportedly screwed the Steelers last night.
Let's take a listen to the report that Chris Harris from the Fort Worth Star Telegraph, this is what he said.
Pittsburgh is pissed about this.
They feel like Dallas duped them.
They, especially with the draft being in Pittsburgh, they felt embarrassed on a national stage.
So there was a wild development that happened in the war room, not only in Dallas last night,
but also in Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia.
So the Cowboys are sitting there on the clock at Pick 20.
They were planning on taking Malachi Lawrence right there, but they did entering that pick.
They wanted to trade back.
They had been tipped off somehow that Mackay Lemon was going to be the pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
the USC wide receiver.
There's a lot of connections with that new Pittsburgh staff.
Remember Mike McCarthy is a new head coach there.
he hired a lot of, you know, assistant coaches and, uh, um, executives and scouts and, and, you know,
people behind the scenes that were in Dallas just a couple of years ago. So it could have been
as simple as someone in the Dallas war room just shooting a text to somebody in the Pittsburgh
war room being like, hey, who are you're all taking here? And then thinking, oh, the cowboys are
taking defense. You know, this is just two guys, you know, two girls talking right here. It's like,
oh, we're taking McCoy Lemon, you know, and the Cowboys call Philadelphia. Galways call
Philadelphia. They're like, hey, the Steelers are going to take McKay Lemon. We know you want a receiver.
come up here, do this deal with us, and give us two fourth round picks.
And they did the deal.
And Pittsburgh is pissed.
Multiple sources have told me this morning.
Damn.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love the Cowboys being petty.
And yes.
It worked out great for them.
This isn't a Boy Scout troop, man.
We're trying to win a championship.
Who cares if the Steelers are pissed off?
There's clips out there of Mackay Lemon being on the phone with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And then him being like, hey, why is Philadelphia calling?
And his agents running in the room.
Philly just traded for you.
going to be Philly and he has to hang up on the Steelers and answer the Eagles phone call
and take that and he's drafted at the 20th overall pick.
Hey.
Hey, that's how business work long, ain't it?
That's why they, Joe, that's why they call it the war room.
Yeah.
All it, hey, listen, when it's time for war, ain't no love in that.
You can't, I don't like, I give you a prime example.
I know y'all don't remember this story, but I do.
Y'all do realize that somebody stole the secrets to Coca-Cola formula.
tried to sell it to Pepsi.
Guess what Pepsi did?
What did they do?
Told Coca-Cola got the FBI involved and got their ass arrested.
Why?
First of all, I don't blame the Cowboys.
But why would somebody in Pittsburgh ever divulged that information?
Why would you do that?
Right.
Also, if I meant, if you said it's the war room, that means I met war.
With every other, all 31 other teams, I met war.
would I divulge any information about who, what we're potentially going to do.
Hey, you know how this bend this goes, right?
It ain't fair.
It never has been.
If we have an opportunity to get one up on another team.
Yes, I don't got no problem with it.
I have no problem whatsoever.
Oh, okay.
My problem is with the Steelers.
Right.
And they thought they could trust someone.
I ain't got no friends.
Right.
Ocho, you go to another team.
You go to the Patriots
Yeah
Man, Ocho, what y'all do?
What y'all looking like out there?
Man, what they got you playing at?
Ah, man, I don't even know if I'm gonna play this week.
That's what I'm saying.
Right.
Right.
Anything that I say, they're gonna go back and tell the D.C.
Or they're going to tell the office.
Man, this is what Ocho tell me they're doing.
You're dumbedums.
Shit, hey, hey, you know, the Cowboys,
the Cowboys got two picks off of that, though, didn't it?
Yeah.
Didn't they get two picks off of that?
Yes.
From Philly moving up.
Yes.
Yeah.
Plus, you got to realize Dallas and Philly, this is not the first time.
They did this with Michael and Devante.
Philly wanted Devonty Smith.
Dallas had to pick.
They's like, okay, we'll trade back.
Just don't take Parsons.
Okay, no, we want DeVontade Smith.
They agree.
Yes.
I don't know what Pittsburgh, I don't know what Pittsburgh was thinking in this situation.
I don't.
I don't know.
Why would that guy divulves that information, Ocho Joe?
Joe, why?
He felt comfortable, aunt.
He had to.
He had to feel comfortable talking to them boys, but.
Hey, it's a dirty business.
Hey, Uncle Joe, it always has been.
Not only with the players, but obviously those that wear those, those jackets and those ties,
it's still a dirty business.
You know, we saw this thing in baseball.
Who, who that's, what we saw the Houston Rockets, Houston Rockets,
the Houston, the Astros were stealing sign.
They're banging on the drums.
We saw the card with somebody had all that,
their portfolio, the information,
the analytics and all that.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
Hey, we got here.
Hey, them Cowboys, got some good pickups, though, didn't it?
I love the Caleb Downs.
How did you tell you?
How Caleb Downs slipped us like that?
It seemed like somebody saying he had some knee issues.
Is that correct?
I mean, from what I'm.
I've been here.
Yeah, they were talking about how he's like one of the, if not the best prospect in the
draft.
Yeah, he up there.
He won up.
He went up.
Hey, he's a great pick.
That's one of those picks you really, you really can't miss.
And y'all got, y'all got another edge.
Melichai.
Nah, Jayshan Barham.
I think edge rushes like a d'n.
When they draft him, did they?
Okay.
Yep, third round.
And the third round.
Hold on.
Didn't they get Rob Regats from Texas, Texas, Texas?
He was the Bronco.
He was the, what you call him?
Outstanding defensive player this year,
the linebacker from Texas Tech.
Isn't he going to Dallas?
No, he's going to Miami.
He's going to Miami.
He's going to Miami.
He reminds you of, Ocho.
Who was that?
Zach Thomas.
Kiko Long.
Zach.
You remember Zach Thomas?
He were number 10.
He was number 10 at Texas Tech, right?
Number 10?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I like him.
He was right for.
What is Zach Thomas?
I think Zach Thomas,
the linebacker.
Yeah, Zach, no,
Zach Martin went to know the name.
Mm-hmm.
A matter of fact,
matter of fact,
when I think about the draft
and the first three rounds,
and I think about giving team grades
based on what they've done so far
with the first three rounds,
the goddamn cowboys get an A.
Goddamn Philadelphia,
they get a goddamn A.
I don't know what,
a Harry Roseman.
I don't, is he,
he,
just made for this stuff, uh?
He just made for this stuff.
Whether it's a draft, whether it's
offseason acquisitions, whether it's
playing players early, you know,
a little early than you're supposed to.
You see you trade they made? Everything he does, he always does
it right. Is this you trade they made?
What trade they made? Yes. They got Grinner,
who was opposite of Anderson. I talked
about it last hour. I said, oh, Cho.
I've been hearing that he was on the market.
Guess what? They trade for him.
Four years, 100 million. Boom,
done deal. Now we got another
a pass Russia.
Damn.
Hey, hey, so, so, so, so, so, uh, the receiver, he for sure up out of that.
AJ, he for sure out of there.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
June, June.
He'd be over there.
He'd be over there in, uh, in Boston.
He'll be over there in Boston.
Pat.
He'll be happy.
I mean, look, it happens sometimes.
Sometimes you have irreconcilable differences, and sometimes we can part amicably.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It happens.
Hey, a, a, a chat.
I'm, I'm curious to chat.
they think about the draft and as far as the teams what team what grades would you give some of the
some what grade would you give your team your favorite team on how they've done so far in the draft
a bang bang bang i mean people you know people to laugh what we've done defensively on
y'all got better oh cho hey i mean listen i can't say we got better i know we got some hell of a
pieces i can i can i say that am i can i say that uh jared allen huh we got sexy dexy
A young boy, young boy from Texas at NM.
Joe?
Man, Cassius, Cashus how?
He liked that?
Now, I'm just looking at what I'm seeing on film, you know, based on the highlights.
Twitchy, aggressive.
Hey, hey, he nice, and he got a little dog in him.
He got there talking trash.
Most of the time, you don't see that too much.
It's straight from the defense of lineman.
Hey, hey, we're going to be nice.
If we get Shamar Stewart to come out this year and show.
show the progress and improvement.
He was the first round pick last year.
He didn't do much last year,
but we get him coming along this year, man.
Hey, Miles Murphy, I like it.
We improve defensively.
It's one thing to have names,
but it's another thing when the goddamn bullet's flying,
are you going to shore up on Sundays when they count?
Hey, hey, what your Ravens and your Broncos do?
They get better?
They took an offensive lineman.
I think both teams took off.
No, I'm trying to think, what did the Broncos take?
Hell, I don't even know.
I know the Ravens took, I know the Ravens took the title,
the offensive linemen from Penn State.
And they took defense, I think they took defense in the second round.
I see, hey.
Early pick in the second round.
I see them Browns got them some receivers and offensive tackles, didn't they man?
Yeah, I told her to they need receivers.
They need some receivers.
Shee.
Oh, Joe, what are your thoughts on the Steelers calling Malikow, Washington,
when they weren't even on the clock?
No.
Lemons. I was watching. What the hell I get watched?
Limit.
Malachi.
Malachi.
Mackay.
Mackay, not Malachi.
Mackay.
Malachi went to the Cowboys.
Yeah.
Jake Rosenberg said,
clubs are not on the,
clubs that are not on the clock may have discussions
with representative of one or more draft eligible players
not yet selected or discussion with players themselves.
Regarding the players' interests in playing in the league,
playing for a particular club or type of club.
players help or no other non-financial matters so long as these discussions do not interfere
with discussions between player and clubs that is on the clock.
So I don't know why, I don't know why, Steele, we're going to have it.
So, Steele, you're not supposed to even talk.
So guess what?
So they, they, they in the wrong.
Look, you can have a discussion.
You can talk to the representative or you can talk to the players, Ash.
Right.
It says you may have this.
with the representative of one or more draft eligible players not yet selected or in discussion
or discussion with the player themselves.
So theoretically, since they weren't on the clock, they shouldn't have to have a conversation.
Yeah.
Right.
You're not supposed to be able to do that, though.
So, yeah, I got no, hey, so good, you're supposed to lose.
You could talk to the agent, but you're not supposed to be having a conversation with said player.
With the player, right.
So, I don't know why you mad.
One lowdown dirty D.
deserves another.
Hold on.
What player, what player are the receivers?
Are the Steelers mad at?
The Steelers was on the phone with McCall Lemon when they weren't on the clock.
They made a cowboys.
So Dallas does a deal with Philly.
Philly land a jet.
That's how he ended up over there.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
You're supposed to be able to.
You could talk to his representative, but you're not supposed to be on the clock with the player
unless you're on the club.
He wasn't on the, Steelers weren't on the clock.
Because if they were on the clock, guess what?
What nothing feeling could do.
But since they weren't on the clock, Dallas, say, hey, you know what?
We ain't selected it.
So let us go ahead and pick up a couple extra draft picks that might help us out down the road.
Hello.
And McCaill Lemon, boy, he upset too.
Why you say that?
Yo, he upset.
He felt he was one of the better players in the draft and should have been going a little earlier than Woody,
He'd go.
He got a little chip on the shoulder.
You got a little chip on the shoulder.
Obviously, you know, there were rumblings and talk about the way he does his interviews
and his mannerisms, the way he conducts himself when talking.
But that's just him.
That just him.
He's not Peyton Manning.
He's not Tom Brady.
They just don't like the way it comes off the way he does his interviews.
But, hey, this man here to play football.
He's here to play football.
You know, how he conducts themselves when the camera and the mic is in front of him, that has
nothing to do with what he does on the goddamn field.
But he was pissed off.
and you can tell.
You can tell.
So I hope you go out there and do us.
You know what thing.
It's reported that the Eagles
were trying to get in touch with Lemon.
But he's on the fall with it and the Steelers.
Because you know if this draft
and you're on the phone,
Ocho, what's the likelihood of you clicking over?
Because you're already on the phone with the NFL team.
So whoever's calling is not nearly as important
as who you're on the phone with.
Right, right, right.
Not even close.
So they were like, well, damn,
we try to call a little boy.
This is the number he gave us.
Because, you know, you got to give them a number, Ocho, where you're going to be to be to ask you for your number.
Where are you going to be in Miami?
You're going to be in Oregon.
You're going to be here.
You're going to be there.
What's the best number?
Is there a second number?
Nah, this is it.
This is all the number I got.
Yeah.
So they try to get in touch with it.
They're like, well, damn.
He clicked over.
Hey, congratulations, Mackay.
We just selected you.
Huh?
I was talking to the scene.
It's a dirty game.
Talking to them about what?
day it on the clock
Hey
Hey boy
That's a hell of a feeling though
The draft
That's a
That's something you'll never forget
Bro
That's something you'll never forget
It's a hell of a feeling
Yeah it's nerve wracking
Hell if you didn't have anxiety
You probably got it that day
You feel me?
Yes
You know what I tell you
Ocho
Guys need to understand
It's not
Ha ha
It's where you go
That's the most
important thing. We've seen guys go
high, go to the wrong situation.
We've seen guys go to the right situation.
Tom Brady.
And flourish. Went to the sixth round.
Yeah. Maybe somebody else, hey, he gets cut.
They kept four quarterbacks in New England. That's unheard of.
Four active quarterbacks on the roster.
Coach Belichick saw something. He was so
convinced that this guy had something, say, you know what?
Hey, just do scouts team stuff
and don't even worry about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, that's not the way
to play is thinking about it too long.
You know, everybody wants to go early.
You're right.
Obviously, money, money plays a huge factor
and wanting to go early.
But the money so much,
it's so different now as opposed to when we were playing
and when we got drafted,
hey, you can go in the goddamn third round
and still be sitting damn that world pretty.
Hey, second round of getting first round of money,
not, I don't you?
Oh, yeah.
Compared to what?
first rounders normally get.
You do realize,
I think all first rounders contracts
are guaranteed.
Mm-hmm.
That's crazy.
The running back got,
the running back is the high,
he got the most guaranteed money ever.
50.
To my love.
50.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, what about?
I see why his parents
were doing this all night.
Yeah, they should.
Hey,
hey, hey,
what about the kid
who we had on here,
Avion Terrell,
he got drafted by the Falcons.
By the Falcons,
go over joining the brother.
And he playing with his brother.
Oh, man, that's so hard.
Hey, boy, that's so, hey, that's so dope, Joe.
That's crazy.
Oh, man.
Hey, Unk, has there ever been a tan of my brothers that actually played together on the same team at the same position?
Not that I know of.
Damn.
I can't think anything up on top of my head.
Hey, and they both from, they both from here.
Yeah, they went to Wesley.
Damn.
Hey, can you imagine that, AJ Terrell at once on one side and his brother on another side?
That's, that's crazy.
I wouldn't, see, you could do that if you're on the defense side.
I ain't, I wasn't trying to play with my brother.
He's a ball hog.
They throw it that ninja the ball, man.
Man, I got drafted.
He had just come out leading the league.
He just come out to leading the league and catches.
Damn.
First team all pro.
92, 93.
He went back to back over 100.
Nah.
Woo.
Damn.
Hey, what kind of advice he would give you,
when you were going through your process?
Oh, yeah.
Ocho.
They did.
A bit of few.
Yeah.
Shaquille and Shaquine Griffin for the Seahawks played.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Number one was the linebacker, the other was a DB.
Yeah.
Jason and Debbie McCordy played with the Patriots.
Oh, no, I'm saying they, no, they, no, okay, okay.
Are you right?
I'm just saying in the draft, I mean, drafting to the same.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
They ended up, they ended up playing.
that they ended up playing together.
I mean, actually one player,
your brother already being at,
do you actually get drafted at the same team?
Your brother all?
Not at the top of my head, no, Joe.
Not at the top of my head.
And Derek and T.J. White both played with the Steelers.
But I think Derek ended up
when he was drafted.
Yeah, Shaquille and Shaquille was drafted.
They both got drafted to the same team.
One was the first round pick,
and I think the other was a second round pick.
They both got drafted in Seattle?
Yeah.
I remember that.
Yeah, that's dope.
And that's, that got to be the best.
A.S.
Oh, what about what you call them, Joe?
What about, uh, uh, K.M and Casey Hayward?
Both of them in Pittsburgh.
Or he might not been, was he drafted?
What, what, what, what, what the little brother drafted?
Hmm.
Connor, Connor.
Hey, that's dope, man.
Was he drafted to the Steelers or we were the free agent?
I mean, I mean, to be from here, though.
Yeah.
And playing for the foul.
Bro, that's.
Yeah.
He was drafted.
Uh, Hayward.
Connor and Cam Hayward.
Damn.
Hmm?
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, you talk, even if you,
you probably got a handful of instances, Ocho.
If you go back and study the NFL,
maybe you got a handful of history.
Right.
Instances in which guys have gotten drafted.
Brothers have gotten drafted.
Maybe they played at a later date and time,
but to be drafted.
Right.
Man, that's unbelievable.
That's dope.
as as as as parents they got to be one of the greatest feelings in the world one of the greatest
feelings i mean obviously what with uh donna kelsey what she was able to do oh yeah i mean
terrell terrell's parents i mean the the watt family the manning family that that has to be one of
the greatest feelings man the barly oh yeah yeah ronde and tiki yeah that's dope pouncy
Sonoras and Sanis and Santana Moss
trying to think, hey, the list goes on.
Yeah, that's dope.
But you know what, Ocho?
What happened?
I mean, they got some very, very touching,
heartwarming stories.
But I only know one set of brothers
they got these.
There you go.
Hey, hey, hey, you're right by that.
Hey, I like that.
I like that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Here he goes.
He go.
Hey, hey, Charlie got a goal one too.
Nah, nah, no, no.
Hey, listen, I'm the only one with a 14-carred gold bus.
You hear me?
Hi, Joe.
Hey, Chad.
Hey, hey, hey, only one with a 14-k.
Hey, wait till I get my arm.
Hey, it looked like me, huh, Joe?
Yeah, it looks like you, bro.
Hey, that don't, you got a little knot up there on your don.
No, you got that little knot up there.
Uh-huh.
See, you should, hey, you should have been working with you.
You should have been working with Chauncey.
Got Chauncey to be playing football.
Nah, Chonsie is Hooper, man.
Chantzzi don't, he don't like, he don't like football.
He don't like that contact.
Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, you're talking about playing me.
My brother.
Who is your brother?
No, whoop your brother's ass.
Hey, hey.
Don't bring your brother in this mess.
Hold on, hold on, Joe.
Both of my brothers, my brother, Choncy, my brother Sam, I promise you.
Line it up there.
Line it up there. Line it up.
No, you think you're slick.
You ain't getting away from me.
You're going to deal with me, boy.
You're going to deal with me, boy.
You're going to deal with me.
You're going to do with me.
I whoop their ass too.
Hey.
But, hey, Joe, you, why this ain't the NBA, Joe?
What we play streetball?
I grew up playing the street.
What are you talking about?
I grew up playing that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, Joe.
Hey, hey.
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Ocho!
Anthony Richardson is reportedly looking for an extension
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this past season, it led to a three-year $67.5 million contract with the Dolphins.
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Ocho, could it West Coast system help Richardson revive his career similar to Willis?
I think any system will really help him if he lock in.
It's not about the system he's in.
It's about you locking in.
It's about you taking what you do serious,
not rapping, not all the side quests,
not all your hobbies that you focused in,
being the first one in and being the last one out.
It had nothing to do with the system.
It's you.
You know, that's all that comes down to,
that's all the work you put in,
the results show up on something.
Sundays.
Yeah.
When you don't put the work in, Joe,
the results show up that you
ain't put the work in. It shows up on Sundays.
Absolutely. Don't get
bad at the results you didn't get
for the work you didn't put in.
There you go. That's all they come down
too. But, Ocho, you remember
when we were talking about this, let that
man have other things. He ain't got to
be there all day. Now, why they had in the
chat, though, Jocho, when you was I was on this thing
in the very beginning? Where y'all at the chat
now? That's the one position,
Let him do what he want to do.
Let him, if he gets his work done,
Ocho and I just happen to play the game at a very, very high level, Joe.
Yeah.
Extremely high level.
You play at a high level.
I tried to tell him, if all you do is what the coaches ask you do,
you'll never be great.
No, son.
Hey.
No son.
But, oh, your big mouth, you and Ocho don't know everything.
I said, okay.
I said, but at that position,
it's all encompassing.
Hey.
But I want to know, chat, where are y'all at now that y'all criticize Ocho and I, man, you don't know.
I said, it's a bad look that he left the game because he was tired.
It's a bad look.
I said they had a team.
Think about it, Ocho.
They had a team damn meeting about a rookie quarterback.
Yeah.
I've never heard in my 14 years of playing.
Yes.
In my years of covering something of this magnitude.
But the chat, people that's never.
ever played, want to tell guys that's been in the locker room, that's been leaders in the
locker room, and what it takes to be great.
But now they know more than us.
But okay, I let y'all have it.
Now where y'all at?
I ain't heard, not one person.
Yeah, it's different, Joe, especially at the time.
And people say, oh, Joe, man, all sharp, sharp.
You man, talk too much.
But you never said I didn't know what I was talking about.
Hello.
Hello.
Boy, them short, boy, they show talk a lot.
When do you have heard them say they don't know what the hell they're talking about?
That's the one position you can't take no, you can't cut no corners, Joe.
Hey, QB.
You, man, you can't cut no corners.
You can't, you can't, you got to be, you got to be invested.
I'm talking about 24-7.
Hey, on the field, off the field, in the film room.
Hey, and that's why they have no corners.
How great do you want to be at it, though?
That's what it comes down to.
Yeah.
How great do you want to be at it?
Yeah.
Because you're going to be really good.
and do it half-hast.
The same thing,
when we said,
I was on,
what you call them,
when I was undisputed,
and I was talking about Kyle Murray,
man,
let that man have a life.
I said,
do you understand
what it takes to play that position?
And y'all,
I said,
let this sink in for just a second.
They put in his contract
that he would spend
X amount of hours
away from the facility
watching game tape
Do you understand what that means?
Okay.
I'm going to let y'all have it.
I'm going to let y'all have it.
Y'all know.
Y'all right.
Y'all right.
You can do it both.
You can play card and all your time and your off time and you know,
you can do all what you want to do.
No.
But while you moving up the ranks as a card player in the USA or the world,
you drop in the NFL ranks as a,
a quarterback. Yeah. Because it's somebody
working trying to catch you. Oh, yeah.
And if you ain't working,
you don't get exposed on Sundays. Either way.
Either way. That's how I go.
That's the one position you can't. That's the one position
you can't hide on. No.
Hell no, you can't hide it. One position you can't hide
Joe. Hyde everybody else. Yeah,
you can hide everybody else. Damn near, Joe.
I can roll coverages.
Yeah. I can blunt you. I can
stack you. I can push you in motion.
Yeah. The one position I can't
of the quarterback because guess what?
He got the ball every damn time.
Every time.
And hell, it ain't in,
to piggyback again off what you said at the beginning
and then putting him in a new system,
well, hell, young bull came from the Giants
and did extremely well in the system
that you just had yourself with the same players
until he got hurt.
Yeah.
Oh, so you're making sense.
Boy, stop.
Damn.
Same system.
Same receivers.
They ain't like that.
I mean, I'm, I'm,
I'm just being honest.
You're being truthful.
Yeah.
When we say this, you know, we time me, we buck dancing.
I just, I want to, listen.
I ain't one of them so they know.
Coming from me is different.
We don't get the chances that they do.
So don't help the chances up that you do get.
Yeah.
Once you get there, it's easier to get there and stay that it is to get out and try to get back in.
Yeah.
Bro, you see the money that they give it and the cap just going up.
Bro, make you $300, $400,000 and then say kick rocks.
I'm going to go smoke weed.
I'm going to play card.
I'm going to play whatever else.
I don't know the video.
I just know call the dude.
After you get your money, though.
Yes.
After you get your money.
Yes.
That's all I'm saying, guys.
I want guys to get all that money because it's there for you to get it.
But don't, bro, don't let these people gas you up, talk about you can do other things.
No, professional sports is a full time.
time job. A quarterback, just like the NFL, NFL used to be a seasonal job. It ain't no more.
It ain't no more. Because guess what? Oh, there used to be times. We didn't talk about football
in May. Once the draft happened in April, you took a break. You didn't talk about in June. You
didn't talk about July. You didn't talk about the guys went back to training camp. Now, they
covering the draft,
now,
now they cover the combine,
balls to the wall,
now they're talking about OTAs,
now they're talking about
who reporting and when they're reporting.
It's different now.
And it used to be teams
would give you an opportunity.
They would wait for you to develop.
They ain't waiting no more with you.
Hell no.
They ain't wait.
They got too much money tied up.
They say, hell no.
We'll go get something else.
They very impatient.
It's a good thing.
It's a gift and a curse.
It's a gift and a curse, though.
because now the impatience when it comes to owners
and wanting a satisfaction of having success right away
just by getting a high draft pick
and giving them a lot of money,
that's not the way things work.
Now, that might be the way things work in business.
Yes.
Where you throw money at business
and it gets you what you want,
it don't work that way with young quarterbacks.
You got to give them time to develop.
There's a learning curve, on.
Oh, Joe, you see that in business.
If something not going on world, what they do?
They'll find a CEO and get another one.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
He ain't doing it.
They'll find another one.
And they look at the quarterback
as a CEO.
Yes.
But so they get his ass up out there and get another one.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, but look.
How many quarterbacks and came into the league as a rookie
and really been effective?
Like really.
Right away?
Huh?
Yeah.
Shit.
Who.
I'm talking about as a rookie.
Like RG3?
Your RG3 had a good year.
When you look at being effective, so you say, like, being effective, have good years.
Yeah, had a good year.
And it had to where you made the playoffs.
And let's say you was, you know, you had a decent playoffs.
Shoot.
RG3, Jane Daniels.
Jane Daniels, Cedex trial is first year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
CJ was nice.
Our first year was nice.
CJ, yeah.
Hell, Michael Vick had to sit and wait.
Carson had to sit and wait.
Brady said,
wait.
Peyton didn't sit and wait, but Payton said, I just, I root for somebody to throw 27
interceptions so I can get off the list because I got the most interceptions that the
rookies ever rookie.
Payton said, I want somebody to break my record and break it all the rest of them.
Hey, Joe Payton was horrible, boy, as a rookie.
That, Dak came in.
Oh, that's right, Dak, yeah.
Oh, yeah, because he took Tony Romo spot out of dump because Romo got hurt.
Yep, yep, yeah.
So that big, but it's hard, Joe, it is hard for that guy to come in and he got to be,
and be the leader of a team, a first year, a rookie, it's tough.
Hey, hey, is it tough because of the game, the NFL and college, the NFL is a lot faster
than college, like your processing has to speed up.
Way faster, Joe.
Yeah.
Way faster.
I mean, obviously, at that point, it becomes a mind game.
You know, it's a mental game.
I know it's a physical sport, but hell, the game is 90% mental, 90% mental, 10% physical.
Absolutely.
You have to know what everybody else is doing.
You have to know what everybody else is doing.
And then when it comes to being able to read and process the defense, not only the route scheme, the combination that you have going on, but no longer what the defense is doing before they even do it.
So you know exactly where you want to go at the ball.
So you're able to think, you're able to think and read and react fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you think about Tom Brady and you think about Peyton Manning,
some of the greatest quarterback that there are,
and they're not physically imposing, you know?
They're not the fastest, you know?
They're not the most athletic.
But they beat you here every time, Joe.
They beat you here every time.
Process.
That's their edge.
That's their middle edge.
Oh, Joe, you know, Drew Reeves got bitched.
He was the reason that they got to the number one pick.
For real?
They didn't know more pick.
Remember that they got Eli.
Oh, yeah.
He said, I'm not going.
Yeah.
First of all, he got bitch for a Doug Flutie.
I don't know that.
I ain't know that.
Yes.
That's how they ended up.
They had the number one pick.
They ended up trading it and getting Phillip Rivers.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
But also, Joe, you understand.
You're dealing with guys that's been in the league eight, nine,
10, 11 years.
And you're asking a guy.
to come in and be the leader.
Guys want you to prove it in this league.
Before you lead them, they need to see you to do it.
They want to make sure that you, you, that guy.
Yeah.
You show them you the guy and they'll follow you forever.
Damn.
Yeah.
Because they watch it.
They watch it.
They see who the first end.
Your quarterback, you can't be the first end.
You can't be the last end to first to leave.
You got to be first and last.
First end, last to leave.
No question.
Not last first.
Joe, Joe, you got to want it, Joe.
You got to.
I already know.
You got to.
You got to want it more than somebody wants it for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, I might have been a clown and they might have called me all they wanted to, Joe.
But boy, I wanted it, Joe.
You were locked in?
I would like, Joe.
I ain't had no choice, Joe.
I talked to my shit.
Yeah.
I talked to my trash through the week.
Purposely, I'm gonna give your bulletin' board material.
This is what's gonna happen,
and I'm gonna go in here and practice,
and I'm gonna go do exactly what I said I'm gonna do.
And ain't none you could do to stop it.
Nothing.
I don't care, I don't care what defense you run.
I don't care, how many people you put on me?
Well, you're gonna get this work.
Yeah.
Every week, every week was a challenge.
It was fun and not just turned the fun and entertainment.
But I had to put the work in, Joe.
Yeah.
I had to study.
And they'll see it.
Once they see that you're serious about this,
the work that you, the way you practice,
the way you meet, the way you study,
the way you're prepared.
That's why Joe, the way Unk just explained it
is why they never told me to stop what I was doing
because everything Unc just said,
that's what Marvin and all them,
they got to see that part.
Yeah.
The way I practiced, the way I studied.
I was sharp.
I was sharp.
See, the rest of the world saw the finished product.
They saw the fun.
Yeah.
They're seeing the trash talking.
They're not seeing all the work I'm putting in to be able to pull that shit off.
Absolutely.
Nah.
That's it.
And that's why the coaches let him do what he did.
That's why I didn't have a problem with my coaches because they know.
They knew how much time I put in to study.
They knew how much effort I put in in the off-season and during the season to keep my body right.
They didn't have to worry about anything.
But guess who else was watching?
Your teammates.
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Yeah.
I got you, Joe. I understand.
I understand there's certain things that I can say,
but I sprinkled it out there a little bit, you know?
Like Parsley, I sprinkled it out there a little bit.
And, you know, the fact that I say, when I do say it,
most of the people don't believe me, but when it happened,
they were like, oh, my goodness, Ocho, you was right.
So a small example of me knowing what I'm talking about,
but nobody really paying attention
in God damn in February.
I told you.
Hey, um, where did I say?
And I'm sure we got the video evidence
that we can pull back and we can use this proof.
When did I say AJ Brown was going
when they're going to trade him?
What team I say we're going to?
Yeah.
Two months ago, Joe.
I told him, I've been telling him since the what,
October.
I said, oh, he up out of there.
Oh, yeah, he's out of there.
You don't know what you talk about.
You're all you try to do.
Man, this is what I don't like about.
This is what I don't like about, um,
because he's think he know everything.
Come on, now.
Not one person.
We can go back and pull it
because we still got the comments
where Ocho and I was talking about
because we got it
and we can pull the comments.
Mm-hmm.
You don't know what you talking about.
All you do is think you know everything.
You don't know everything.
I said, man, y'all have here out of this man talking.
They win in the ball.
They winning games.
Oh, my thing went out.
It came back.
My bad.
They trade.
So they traded.
No, Joe.
It's going to be a post June 1st.
Yeah, post June 1.
But Joe, listen.
I was saying this two, three months ago, right?
Football season was over.
They were having discussion
and talks about them going.
I said the first thing I said was,
listen, young bull want to get up out of there.
If you're asking why you're in season
and then I'm thinking,
what place would make sense for AJ Brown to go
for him to still be able to flourish?
Hello, go back with your coach.
You was Whitten goddamn Tennessee.
I mean,
in Tennessee.
With Coach Brayble.
So I said right away, I say, yeah,
he's going to the Patriots.
I mean, it's common sense to that point, you know, and this is damn there two, three months
ago.
Everybody's talking about, man, shut up, he don't want to go nowhere.
What do you talk about?
Thank you.
I'm like, I don't think, y'all don't understand how.
But guess what, Ocho?
But you don't they're going to say?
Oh, everybody who's going to get traded.
You're a lie.
No, you didn't.
You are a lie because all y'all, and the don't, don't come now.
Oh, man, no, no, no, no.
We want y'all, just like y'all, when Ocho and I wrong, and y'all want Ocho and I admit
that we was wrong, we got it wrong.
I need y'all to do the same thing.
I want you all to run it with the same passion,
with the same conviction that y'all say
Unc and Ocho don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Ain't know what?
A.J. say he wasn't going nowhere.
They say they won't go trade him.
Run it with the same passion.
Hey, I got all the tweets saved, too.
Yeah.
I'll go back and pull them.
When it actually happened after June 1st,
we're going to go back and we're going to pull about 15 of them.
So you better go take them down because we like the job.
Because we use all tweets against you.
Yeah.
because y'all just knew oh he ain't say that he said he didn't want to go to where they said they want to go trade it okay
Eagle fans where y'all at I know we got some Eagle fans yeah I know we got some Eagle fans because I told you during the season they're going to trade it
I said he wants to get out there and you know what it's best for the it'll be a best it's the best thing sometimes when you have irreconcilable differences
let's go ahead and break this thing up amicably that is what y'all wanted to hear
Oh, you just trying to
No, no, no, no, no, no, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
I want y'all what y'all normally do
when old Cho and I are wrong.
Oh, man, just admit you was wrong.
Now, I want the Eagle fan.
Now, come on with it.
Yeah.
And the funny thing.
Come on with it.
It's going to be a good thing.
It's going to be a good thing.
Let me give me a piece of candy.
Hey, let them old people say, Joe, let me get a piece of this old hard candy.
Hey, my, my great.
Remember, Kelsey can't in her part of it.
Hold on.
The man catch a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
He's a second team all-pro.
He's a Pro Bowl player.
He led the team and received it in yards.
I don't know where else you can get.
And he was unhappy.
You remember two years ago, he on the sideline reading the book.
The key from blowing his top.
Whatever you got to do to keep you calm.
it got so bad
they had a meeting
the owner
and AJ had a meeting
he said I understand your frustration
probably with something like I understand your frustration
but can you not be so public
and I said I don't have
a problem because I'm firm believer you don't accept
anything in a win you wouldn't have a loss
I said but you got to keep it behind the scenes
because people are going to view you
as selfish
you're winning
you got to at one point you had the best record
and they're
I see.
I say,
you're winning.
I say people are going
to look at you
as being selfish
because they're going to look
at it's like,
no,
you just want your stats.
And then if you drop a pass
or something happens,
people are going to become
overly critical of you.
I'm just trying to,
I ain't telling what somebody told me.
Ocho and I are speaking from,
I got 14 years,
Ocho got 11.
So that's 25 years
of NFL experience,
being in the locker room
and seeing how things work.
Yeah.
That's all.
No, no, don't talk it.
Unk never meant nothing.
I need you to admit.
Don't talk this ain't about Unk.
Now, when Up wrong again,
Unk in me, I tell you what,
if sexy Dexy go out there and ball out,
I'm saying, you know what,
that was a good trade.
Well, hold on, hold on.
It was a good trade.
I'm telling it's going to be a good trade.
Because any time we talk about football,
and I say something ahead of time,
it's always right.
It's always right.
I'm rarely wrong when I say this thing.
Since you've been talking about your bingles,
your bingas, your bingas ain't been to the playoffs.
sense. Okay, that's just one thing.
That's just one thing.
Hey, now, hold on, hold on now. Don't you
do that. Hey, brother cowboy, don't you do
that down there? That's what you're not going to do.
Because I chime in
and say back. Nah, no, I'm just
saying, we talk about us not being to the playoffs.
I mean, we're in the same goddamn boat now.
You know, hey, if I'm Rose, then you
Jack. Now, don't act like that.
Speaking of sexy Dexter,
Tony Pauline speaks on
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There is concern that while Lawrence has
shown himself to be a great player at
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Part of the reason he wanted to be traded
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Hey, you don't want that out there
about you. They said John Harbaugh does work
Ocho. Pads, Pads, Pats, but I don't get
this is what I don't get. And I think they're
talking about Zay Flowers.
He said that Coach Harbaugh had them in pads,
so forth and so on. Yeah.
Ocho, if that's what you came
into the league as that's what you know
how'd that a problem that's all you
know right it's not like
you've been somewhere else you've been
at the 49ers and
they only get they only in pads like on
Thursday for maybe like 10 15
minutes right if you came from
that system and went to this system
I get it right but if that's
all you know when I play with
Dan Reeves we had the pads on that's all I knew
so if I go somewhere else than they got
pads on
I'm good I'm Gucci
because that's what I'm
You know, that's probably word or mouth too, um.
You know, Zayflowers, hearing other players that's on other teams, the way they practice,
them not having their pads on as often, especially when you get later on into the season,
the fact that they having pads on as much as possible all the way up to, and I mean,
in a sense, I don't understand it.
Where you want your players healthy, you want them light as possible, especially, you know,
during the week.
So they're healthy, you know, for games on Sundays.
I, now during our time, during our day, I understand.
Now in today's time, in today's time, having pads on in every single practice,
as many practices as you can get pads on them boys, you got them on them.
Oh, that's tough.
Yeah.
But in the West Coast system, for the most part, the West Coast used to be, that was the thing.
No pads on Wednesday.
You had them on for nine on seven.
You had them on for nine on seven.
It was thudded up.
Yeah.
But then you take the pads off.
The quarterback kept their pads on because they wanted to get used to throwing with their pads.
Yes, sir.
No problem.
But everybody else, take your pads off, set them to the side.
I leave mine out there because some rookie was going to grab mine or he better.
But anyway, we're talking about that.
That'll be another show.
We can talk about things that you got to do as a rookie or a player just coming up.
But I don't get it.
Bro, you play in pads.
I don't get that, Ocho.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Hey, I can't even sit here and lie because, hey, Joe,
some days when we had padded practices, Joe, I have on the shelves.
You know, the shell with a little cushion you put, you put on.
Yeah, yeah.
They call them spider pads.
Yeah, the spider pads.
Yeah, spider pad.
So the defense would already know, they weren't going to hit me no way, Joe.
But they can tell when I'm not wearing my goddamn shoulder pads.
I just ain't, I just ain't more that weight on me.
I just ain't more that extra weight on me, Joe.
I want to be out there moving fast as hell
as fast as possible through practice
I wear them on Sunday
sometimes Marvel would say something
sometimes he wouldn't
yeah but they didn't
pay the practice hey Joe
he used to be hell boy
Jose Flores I want to keep his pads on
all that damn fumbling he'd be doing
that might be what that might he might
need to keep his damn pants on
Mike didn't have a problem
all he said
I want you to dress how you would dress
in the game. He said if you wore pads, five pads, knee pads in the game, where am I here
to practice? Yeah. That's the only, that was really the only thing that he had. That's what we said.
Until them guys started coming out there with damn Tim and in house shoes or walking.
Man, okay, because we were talking about that another time. But I'm saying, that was the only,
that was the only thing that he had. If we come out here to practice, however you play in the game,
that's how I want you to, especially when we got on pads. So most of the guys to me back then,
They got to wear pads now, Ocho?
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, damn.
You go back and look at the 90s and early 2000.
Ain't nobody have no damn pants on Harley.
Everybody had them basically was tight.
They don't gutted the thigh pads, the knee pads,
that took all the pockets out, all they got them tight.
Yeah.
Ricky Jackson was the first person I ever saw do that.
I say, man, if I ever be good enough,
I damn sure coming out my, I'm coming out mine.
Hey, look, so when y'all got pads on, y'all, they're hitting?
Y'all hitting?
No, we had on tight.
It's just like you wear, like you wear those legs up under your game pants.
That's what I put off in my pants feel like.
Yeah, that's it.
We don't gutted the pants.
We don't took all the pockets out.
They just basically spandex.
Spandex, yeah, that's it.
They just basically spanducks.
All I had was a helmet and shoulder pads.
I had no thigh pads, no hip pads, no knee pads, no mouthpiece.
I had a helmet and I had shoulder pads.
And I only had two of my chin straps fast.
Yeah.
I remember, hey, let me some, hey, them's some fun days, boy.
I miss it, boy, I ain't, I ain't gonna lie to you.
I ain't gonna hold you.
What you miss?
You miss the grind?
Yeah, I miss the grind.
I miss competing, Joe.
I miss competing.
I miss having a structure and discipline and having to get up for something.
I need something to do.
And whatever that's something is, that gives me structure.
How about go to the bank and send unc his money?
Huh?
Hey, hunk, I told you, uncle.
Hey, break in case of emergency.
If you really need that 509, I got you.
That man, Ben said he needed.
No, he's not.
He just talking.
You know, he just talking.
Hey, Joe, don't you owe me a-oh.
No, we even.
We even, we even.
What?
Say it again?
Say it again?
We're even, because we bet in every game, right?
You owe me a hundred.
Atlanta won the night, so now we don't broke even.
We even, we, we, we.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't like the fact that I can't pay you, though,
because you ain't seem to my money.
My pants at home.
Next time I'm home, Joe,
because I got some of my game pants.
You'll see there ain't nothing.
They just...
Damn, Uncle, you kept your pants?
I kept my game pants.
Should a pants.
Got shoulder pants, everything.
And I ain't, I ain't got...
I ain't got nothing.
They still got all my stuff flip,
who's the equipment guy.
He was there.
He was there when I was there.
They still got all my stuff boxed up.
All my shoulder pads.
extra my helmets, all that stuff in the box.
Oh, Joe, you ain't got no helmets today?
Joe, I ain't keep nothing.
I ain't, hey, Joe, let me tell you something.
I don't know what's wrong with me, Joe.
Hey, I swear for God, there's something wrong with me, Joe.
I had, when I moved, I had a big place.
I had a big place when I were playing out here in Davy.
And it really made no sense.
And I got to a point where, you know what, I'm getting rid of this.
I'm to about 10,000 square feet.
There's no reason for me to have a house that goddamn big.
I'm not playing football no more.
So obviously, you know how I am.
to come to financial literacy, let's downsize a little bit.
Let's get up out of here.
Let's get in something we can maneuver with
and maintain the same lifestyle we had while we were playing ball.
So I went small, I put shit in storage, Joe.
I put stuff in storage.
Joe, I let that stories there.
Joe, maybe by 10, 11 years.
And it got to a point where, you know what,
now I'm moved into something nice again,
I got something big again, you know?
I wasn't bringing all that old stuff back with me
and I didn't left that part of life, Joe.
I just let the stores go.
So it's all that stuff, man.
I don't never collect memorabilia, Joe.
I never have.
I ain't kept no jewelry.
I ain't kept no nothing.
Now, if I need it, I know I can go get it.
If I want a helmet, if I want shoulder pad or anything like that,
I can go, I can find my old stuff again.
That's easy.
I got all my stuff.
I got college stuff.
College?
I got my high school helmet.
Nah, I see.
Yeah, you see, you're a collector.
You're a collector.
Hey, Joe, when a phase of life is done, I'm, I close that book, Joe, I close it.
I close it.
Okay.
That's weird, though.
I don't care about it.
That's weird.
I don't know why.
All the trophy, everything that I went in college, either my mom got it or my, except my
grandmother's house.
And so what I got my own house, my grandma told me, no, you can't take nothing out of here.
They're my trophies
They're my helmets
They're still at my grandma's house
My mom got some
That I went in college
My MVP trophy
I gave it to my girlfriend
I don't know where it's at now
Oh man
She got one of my MVP trophies
Yeah
Hey that's damn that like hard though too
Joe you feel me
Oh I do
I got I got yeah
I got clothes
I got clothes from when I was like
5 or 6
that's too much
that's too much
that story I told about the
the white outfits
that my mom dressed me
and my brother
like Easter for church
for Easter for Easter yeah
I still got that outfit
yeah
that probably was
that problem was
75 78
so damn
there 50 years ago
I still got it
damn
oh yeah
I keep stuff
we do
I get that
for my grandma
I told you, my grandma had canned had
canned peaches and beans and stuff
for 20 years that she tried to bring
to the new place.
Let me say, granted, this stuff ain't no good.
You say, yeah, it is, baby.
It's sealed.
It ain't been open.
Yeah.
Grady, this ain't the military.
This ain't no vacuum.
Them, what the, MRE, ready to eat meals.
Yeah.
That ain't what this is.
Joe, you ain't got nothing.
I got a little something
I got a few jerseys
I mean I
I got that's pretty much it
I got a lot of
you know I got a lot of signed jerseys
you know what I mean a couple
basketball
like when you went to the all-star game
you got people to sign stuff for you didn't you
nah so so like when we got
when you go to the all-star game
it's a section where all the players
got a sign all these balls
and all sign jersey
and they give it to us so
I mean I went seven times
so I got I got some nice stuff
bro, I got some basketballs.
The signature ain't there no more.
Who at?
Those signatures on that basketball ain't there no more.
Okay, I'm not to...
Hey, listen, I can't tell you what every signature is, but...
Yeah.
I got some...
I got some stuff.
I don't know who they are.
I don't know who they are now.
But I didn't get...
The only thing I hate is that I went,
and I didn't get, you know, all the...
I mean, think about it.
I had Brady, had Manning, Elway, Marino,
Kelly, boom.
Not one thing, same.
Hey, man, I got a question.
I won an Emmy Award, Uncle Ocho,
and I ain't gonna lie to y'all.
I lost it.
I won the how can I, uh, you think they'll send me another?
You have to pay for it, but yeah.
Well, you won, hey, you won an Emmy, Joe?
Yeah, and didn't know, didn't know the significance of it, neither, Ocho.
What you was in?
What show?
I was playing here for the Hawks,
and I told my story to Fox Sports.
like I was growing up
so my mom was in it
I think two of my uncles was in it
and we just told the story
they came to my house,
set up,
interview me and all that
and so it was like
halftime of one game
they came back
and they was like,
hey,
they want to present you
with an Emmy
at halve time.
I'm like,
what an Emmy?
I didn't even know
what the hell
of Emmy was.
I ain't going to lie to you.
So listen,
I go out there and get to Emmy.
I come back,
I put it up in my locker
at the arena.
I put it up in my locker
And by two, three days,
when I talked to my mom.
I was like,
Mama, I want an Emmy.
And she was like,
you want an Emmy.
Boy, where is that?
I said,
it's in my locker.
She was cussed me out, boy.
Hey, if you don't get that damn thing
up out of there and send it to me,
you know,
people work their whole career is trying to win to him.
I'm like, man,
I ain't know.
But anyway,
I had a flood here in my house
when I was playing in Brooklyn.
And it wasn't nobody here.
So water had been running for like seven days.
Hey, Joe.
It flooded.
flooded out so it messed up a lot of stuff
but that's one thing I couldn't find when I
came back I'm like damn I couldn't find it
I don't know somebody hit me for it or not
yeah but that's a nice accomplishment
yeah but they're definitely
oh yeah that's a that's a that's a standard
yeah we go get one old Joe
yeah yeah we definitely
we definitely is boy we definitely is
that's the only thing I'm missing
oh I don't know why
Joe you know at the plan all of
after playing all them years man
and having them jerseys having them
helmets and no cleats and stuff.
I don't know why I don't see the value in it no more.
I don't understand.
I just, it just.
Even when you was playing,
no, no, I didn't see it.
Once I was done, once I was done playing, once I was done playing.
And I just let the storage go, man.
You know, people, I mean, remember dude found the stories
that I just stopped paying for it.
And people would hit me on Instagram.
They were he was like, hey, some dude got your storage and you don't.
I'm like, man, I don't.
care.
Man, I don't bought a whole new place.
You know, I don't start it over, you know, doing everything.
And I'm not taking none of that old stuff with me.
And it's funny how people see things that used to be yours and they value it more than you do.
And in my mind, man, I don't have left that place there 15 years ago.
I don't want to bring it with where I'm going now.
I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just weird how people think like that.
I just, I don't see the value in it no more.
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